/jp/ - Otaku Culture

ur road to epic nihongo starts here

beginner pack: watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime + kana charts

less beginner pack: console video games (all kinds) + manga + japanese telebi + a kanji dictionary (paperback) + vjg (all of it) + dojg (use as necessary)

intermediate pack: assorted hentai games from the chart (tm) + tenga + tissues (buy in bulk for best value)

上手ですね pack: light and regular novellas + japanese websites + japanese bbs + talk w. japanese ppl somehow verbally

よくできたな pack: pic related + chastity intact ftw

>>21193539
I am kanjimaster!
Having studied every single kanji book I could come across, I am now able to infer the meaning of every single kanji in the Japanese language.
I challenge you all to a kanji duel! Reply to this post if you accept the challenge.

>>21193568
I accept. Where will we battle?

>>21193567
Senpai!

Quizmaster when did you reach the lvl to be able to listen to music without much thought put into it where were you at learning wise at this point

whats the kanji for smearing feces on your gay lover's hairy stomach

>>21193598
私

パン crew

>>21193623
... slice or piece?

>>21193598
夔

>>21193623
internal crumb structure

>>21193653
>core10k

>>21193663
if you only did core10k i think it would be impossible to pass n1. Listening would be impossible and the rest mediocre at best

>>21193680
Exactly. I have been doing core 10k, DOJG and RTK I y III for 9 months (and still 1 more month to go to finish them). I can't understand a single spoken thing, much less talk.

>>21193663
what gets me every time is

is it his head or his hair thats uneven

i'm reading and i feel that i'll never make it

u might learn somethnig u didnt know before looking in there sometimes

>>21193729
mikocon

>>21193700
Did it not occur to you by now that maybe you should try doing something else?

If I start now can I pass N3 until the end of the year?

hey guys I just finally finished my monolingual transition and I'm finally passing all my tests so I really want to get an official name change to have my name in katakana on my driver's license, does anyone have any experience in this? ty

>>21193784
you don't need to be good at japanese to have a decent vocabulary though

>>21193738
I know how I study is flawed. But my principal interest is in first knowing how to read and write. After that I will think about listening and speaking. For now it is somewhat working. Also, I believe that what you can learn from audio and speaking is limited if you don't understand well grammar. So I am finishing the DOJG first

>>21193793
what anime is this

>>21193802
銀河英雄伝説
Nice show.
https://streamable.com/nen41

おきちゃった

どうしよう

よるこわい

>>21193827
You could spend 4*10 hours on 4 shitty shows or 40 hours on 1 good show
But zoomers don't understand this because social media has fucked their attention spans so hard

>>21193831
when you stop reading manga or anything with furigana

>>21193833
Not him, but I think 4chan fucked my attention span more than any social media did.

犬肉を食べるのが大好きです

>>21193857
上図だよ

>>21193862
you will get good if you read them that is the point ったく

>>21193843
ひどいことするきでしょう

エロどうじんみたいに

by accusing him of cheating aren't you just making him feel even more and more confident and flattered

any good hentai or ecchi with japanese subs available?

>>21193908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3uf6xhfh-U

hope u like runnin boy

>>21193923
idk why but i can't stand using vns to practice listening.

>>21193929
Then watch videos of real people talking.

>>21193926
>ハシゴ高

Yeah just realized, at first I read it like 高, then I was about to give up.
But then I found the expression "高を括る", so I thought it was just something wrong with the font.
If it wasn't for your post I would have just go with the bad font theory.

someone recommend me a VN and I will play it starting this very hour, I'm bored and willing to struggle through any difficulty

>>21193958
You're lucky I'm here:

https://vndb.org/v20860

>>21193950
you could just play with a texthooker? even if you don't really need one it's useful to have the text for looking up shit quickly

>>21193958
https://vndb.org/v10016

>>21193958
https://vndb.org/v5844

>>21194027
I'm reading right now though.

>>21194051
wtf the same shit happens every episode in that show how can you watch 900 eps of the exact same shit

>>21194008
you don't wanna read >>21193990 unless you read dies irae first btw

You forgot to put the rules in the OP post.
>No e-celeb faggotry.

>>21193958
信天翁航海録

>>21193598
中出しの気持ち

>>21194131
i never had fun learning japanese i just had fun playing the games and watching the anime : )

im not even gonna make fun of u for having a score in the 200s like nuke chan does

i just wish ud relax dude and stop tryin to gatekeep a gate that isnt ur gate to keep

also if thats a real post why is ur vocab score one of ur lowest i thought u knew all the words

either way respect for bein real (if it is real but in my headcanon it is)

shes the spitting image of yuu kobayashi

give it a few more years and shell be there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxeM3sIebfQ

>>21194220
Shut up loser.

>>21194269
Still stronger than you.

>>21194320
Tests like that aren't even valid for someone with beyond native abilities.

>>21194286
wow the true master has arrived!

>>21194320
And he has been learning longer than anyone else. I've been at it for 2 years, mostly masturbating and shitposting while being busy with non Japanese things. Think I won't be over 350 at 10 years? Bullshit.

>>21194326
He was full blown fluent in conversation at 2 years, mate

Let's not get ahead of ourselves now. Jamal is definitely a demi-god of learning Japanese, but Matt is still our actual lord and savior.

Starting tomorrow i would like to try and learn Japanese in 1 week, I'm not expecting that i will be able to Speak fluently but adleast to know a fair amount of words and sentences.

To make this easier for me I will be focusing only on speaking and not writing.

Now the reason I want to try this challenge is because I saw a youtuber attempting to learn Italian in 7 days.

I would have done Italian if I didn't already know Italian. So anyway I was always fascinated with Japanese culture and thought that it would be a good language to learn.

Now this is post is for me to ask for help.

1.how many tenses exist in Japanese?

2.could I have a list of the 2000 most used Japanese words/sentences(I wasn't able to find this myself)

3.is duoling worth it?

>>21194393
頑張っ(苦笑）
Is this a real reddit post

>>21194403
Unfortunately, yes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/bepqbr/i_want_to_try_and_learn_japanese_in_7_days/
I usually don't share reddit posts but this just shocked me.

>>21194286
>nuke is intermediate-high
wut

>>21194424
nuke has been ankidroning for about 10 years so it's not surprising that his vocab is his strong point

>>21194204
You can easily doctor a screenshot (before and after it's taken); give us actual proof.

>Well my original plan was to learn how to speak Japanese using romanji

This guys gonna make it.

>>21194393
Gl! Don't let negative responses impact you. Just try to learn as much as possible in as short a time as possible and try to find as many shortcuts as you can! I've tried to get to n5 within a month (far less ambitious as what you're attempting). I 'failed', but I learned so much. It was a total win!

>>21194435
Lmao fuck off retard.

https://streamable.com/akko2

These threads are 90% discussions about some quasi-ecelebs and namefags, who try to be relevant.

>>21194478
nice pdf doctoring

>>21194495
Damn I thought you were going to say I bribed the J-CAT staff.

>>21194477
Don't feel guilty.
These kinds of experiments are driven by zoomer culture. No attention span and constant FOMO makes them want to find shortcuts for everything. Just look at how popular "study hacks" are getting.
Everybody wants to be hot shit, but nobody wants to put in the work to get there. It's better to tell these people the honest and harsh truth than cheer them on as they march into misery.

How difficult to read is the steins gate vn series?

>>21194531
Was studierst du, brudi?

>>21194533
Fuck off.

>>21194536
Kantig!

What do you think of Genki, /djt/?

>>21194557
Inferior to similar things which you can access online for free. Even if you're pirating and not paying for it, there's still no reason to use it over other resources.

>>21194571
Alright, I was just double checking if it's a decent textbook, using it for a University class next semester. I don't mind spending abut 35 bucks on it. The more resources, the merrier

>>21194635
mr. t isn't elegant

https://www.britvsjapan.com/40-of-japans-biggest-lets-play-youtubers-japans-gaming-youtubers/

>>21194648
when i started learning japanese a year ago i thought kanji was stupid. now i know thousands of words that use kanji, and kanji help me read. i still think they're fucking stupid. can't believe people defend this shit.

>>21194677
lol how do you make the most gains as a beginner? you cant even read anything yet

Kanji is pretty easy, especially if you do something like RTK

>>21194656
Are readings part of what you learn with RTK? I just used this since it was the first thing that pops up on the pirate bay when you type in Kanji. Used it up to grade 6. Probably not the best resource available but I'm hesitant to believe the most optimized method of Kanji study would shave off more than 20% compared to whatever else.

>>21194571

like what other resources??

>>21194772
How are you gonna deal with the fact that you will most definitely need to look up words?

>>21194772
Print out Tae Kim or Sakubi. Buy some manga you like (perhaps also buy th English translation). I guess that'd work.

If we're talking a grammar guide written by a homosexual, there's already been a few anon made guides. If we're talking about a guide made for homosexuals, then there's already been a few anon made guides.

今度こそ俺はゲイとして生きてる

>さようです。王は民の規範となるべきそんざい……。法を決めた者が自ら法をやぶっては、国が立ちゆきませぬ

うんこしたい

>>21195070
ふだんは is not the same as お父さんは

お父さんは is the 真は

cock juice

夏草 should totally be pronounced なつぐさ or かそう so I am pissed

アジア系アメリカ人女の子はたいてい腐女子だよ。嘘じゃない。ゲイと大好き。

>>21195268
the first one is more of a direct quote. the second is similar to how people might say something like "he was saying X" in english, ie just talking generally about what someone was saying

>>21193653
Honest question
You seem to know a good ammount of Japanese words.
But do you consider yourself as proficient in speaking as reading?

Ochinchin daiiiski!

I'll say this: adverbs without kanji are indeed the hardest thing to remember. There is nothing to hold on to. I always try to remember without kanji if jisho.org says it's usu. kana.

I'm ready to ascend to the realm of eroge

>>21195428
what are u learning nihongo for lol

>>21195406
if you can't hear and read most things you're not good enough simple as

>>21195447
now that is some high grade win

why the fuck are u on twitter boy ima whoop ur ass

Twitter is good for Japanese porn and also exposure to Japanese net slang. After all, if you can't tell whether some punk kid is referencing a 10 year old meme or just slurring his words, you don't know Japanese.

fuck normie twitter period

ショック

妹の事が思い切れない

>>21193777
>>21193837
>>21193844
>>21195150
Manga isn't reading though.

わたしはゲイ tho

>>21195704
日本人はクリスチャンを殺すよ

this is my gf, say something nice djt

ソレ is kind of rude

>>21195847
hot

>>21195447
I don't think I've ever cringed this much before in my entire life.

>>21195847
めっちゃ可愛い
頭を撫でたい
そのことはいい？

>>21195867
of course you did. you probably didnt even cringe... stop being stupid, you piece of shit.

>>21195875
no fuck off she's mine

>>21195847
whut game

>>21195883
キチガイ

his face basically screams weird fucking

>>21195893
i don't really get what's up with キチガイ, it's one of the words you'll never see on tv and i was advised to never use it myself, i don't get what the big deal is but i saw it in devilman uncensored

>>21195915
basically on the taboo scale it's somewhere between as bad as saying "retard" and saying the n-word as a normal random white guy

what do u mean

this has all been a quiz and is still ongoing : )

>>21195931
you know he said it uncensored on the 5th time right? baka

>>21195937
my friend, that's the joke.

this censoring words thing they do in media aimed at adults is so fucking dumb

it's especially retarded when you're reading an eroge and they censor something like マンコ. come on m8s.

its not unlike the joy of censoring saying n*g*er or the "n-word" a bunch of times then just letting loose and screaming nigger from the rooftops

>>21195946
>f*cking
>r*tarded
watch your tongue dude

https://streamable.com/8733z

僕はポケット

>>21195937
>>21195943
i didnt read the last line lol but im talkin about other times ive seen the same thing in my henties that pic just reminded me

>>21195888
https://vndb.org/v25039

cute!

>>21195980
thanks. an actual monster girl is always interesting to me.

>>21196054
hw2fug

u guys are into some disgusting ass weird ass shit

What are they saying at 0:41? Just can't figger out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCkuvyQLBTs

>>21196091
it's not even a sex thing for me man i just like monsters

>>21196095
kuzeoe
dore teawazenegaoka

>>21196112
ikuze*
teawase*

>>21196142
try posting the article my man

>>21196149
if i could find the article i'd be able to find the game, probably, but that too seems to have disappeared with time

>>21196091
気違い
1. madness; madman ​Sensitive, Usually written using kana alone

変

>>21196142
godspeed with your search.

おはようおにいちゃん

おにいちゃんは

どうしておにいちゃん

>>21195946
>マンコ
Yeah, but seeing that O in the middle of the word is pretty hot. It's like looking straight in her vagoo before she even presents it.

>>21195447
if I may be so bold as to put my detective hat on, can someone please tell me whos retarded video this is?

空の王
空の王
答えません

空の王
空の王
答えません

>>21196273
そのひこうき

よくとんでるよ

I hate it when adults speak in 100% kanji and children speak in 100% roumanji

>>21196272
tim rogers

>>21196324
roumiji*

half way through a ln and finding it hard to keep motivated/focused. If I drop this ln and don't finish it in favour of more compelling content, will that encourage dekinai habits?

Yes, you have to finish everything you start or else you won't learn Japanese. I accidentally closed a tab with a song whose name I don't remember and now I'm stuck forever unable to learn Japanese.

>>21196354
no but if you stick with the same book it's like you get free reps on the vocabulary the author likes to use
being interested is more important for making information stick and your happiness

>>21196354
if you force yourself to read shit that isnt fun cuz u think u arent allowed to switch that will encourage you to stop reading completely
happens to tons of people happened to me multiple times happened to the dude that took 8 months to read one route of leyline lol
abc
always be compelled
gambare

hey jamal where do you get eroges

I was using a Japanese learning app that I thought I was doing well with, but reading the first few chapters of tae Kim makes me feel like a fucking retard. I can’t make it stick in my head goddammit

>>21196442
shit doesn't stick till you start interacting with native content and then it's all so easy. learning about particles and suffixes in a vacuum is good for nothing and so are learning apps

>>21196501
Thanks anon. I’ll keep barreling through. Hopefully It’s all subconsciously sticking and I’ll be able to read shit soon

Hi, I'm looking for a site for Japanese subtitles of (Japanese) live action films. I recently watched 'soshite chichi ni naru' and 'our little sister' by kore-ed, and I just became a fan of his works. I'm planning to watch 'aruitemo aruitemo' (still walking), but I can't find the Japanese subtitles anywhere. I've looked everywhere including assrt.net, avistaz , but still no luck. If anyone have the subs or know any site, please help. Thanks.

おなかすいた

たまごかってくる

やすいとうれしい

たまご１０こで

１３０えんくらいだといいな

>>21196575
>やすいとうれしい
yikes man delete this from your brain

>>21196582
there's nothing wrong with that

先輩達はあたしに優しい

>>21193876
keep doing what you’re doing and ignore those fuckers. i read 40 volumes of manga before moving on to light novels and i don’t regret it at all. was the perfect stepping stone

>>21196710
Manga isn't reading buddy.

>>21196717
kys

>>21196719
Keep yourself safe?

>>21194131
me!!! i’m genuinely having a ton of fun

>>21194167
カニング and マグカップ

>>21196721
ええ

>>21193876
>>21196710
u should do whatever u enjoy the most and not care about anything else
whats most efficient is what u enjoy enough to accidentally sink 8 hours into
which means keep doin what ur doin but it also means dont be afraid of shit
if somethin looks fun but also hard just try it out for a bit
dont pay attention to how slow its goin or how bad ur comprehension is just ask urself one thing
are u havin fun

i think ill drop aniki a bit i wanna start reading asap
any lns recommendations for this n4.5?

>>21196824
everything is going to be a pain in the ass to read at your level so just pick something you actually like

男性の方でも、乳首の開発に興味がある方はぜひチェックしてみてください。

>>21196361
>>21196354
also don't be afraid to just be a noncommittal explorer for a while and play bits and pieces of things until you find something that makes you want to hang in there till the end.
contrary to popular belief, it's not a crime to start a book/LN/game/whatever and not finish it. 10 LNs each read 10% through gets you the same amount of reading practice is 1 LN read 100% through. all that matters is that you're reading.

GET OUT YOUR FLASHCARDS.

IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!

did matt just upload a video and then delete it or what?

>>21197155
kys

>>21197122
lately i've been buying japanese 遊戯王 cards to use as bookmarks for reading light novels. 50円 a piece and just beautiful

>>21197264
Very creative! I'm pretty sure you could skip out of preschool and go to elementary right now :)

I'm sorry if this is a long post but there's this sentence that I cannot seem to understand even after reading it like 50 times, could anyone help me?
situation: there's a body of a school girl lying on a hospital bed and this girl's clothes are a mess and her bag is shattered
then there this phrase:
>[protagonist]: そんなディテールが、これが現実なのだと、ねちねち思いを知らせてくれる。。。、怪異現象だからといって、決してファンタジーでも何でもないリアリティなのだと。
怪異現象 is to be translated as oddity apparition

>>21197366
I'd say it means something around the lines of:
>According to this detail, it can be said that this detail is part of reality, I'm being informed about this thought [?]. It's an oddly apparition that is not of importance for reality.
What's the context of the sentence?

おととい

にほんで火山

きのう

たいわんでじしん

もしかあするとあたしたちはあしたいのちをおとすかもしれない

しらんわ

>>21197366
This detail makes me keenly realize that this is reality. Only because it's a 怪異現象, doesn't mean it's a fantasy or anything like that, it's reality!

>>21196582
lmaooooooooo dunning kruger spotted

わたしはゲイであることもリアリティである

>>21196582
yikes man u should know better

>>21194131
Just know a handful of Kanji, but being able to recognize them so easily and starting to know their meaning is pretty cool.
Also, having hiragana set in stone in my long term memory is quite cool, now I can read lots of shit people post here.

Wish I could into katakana tho, only could learn the ones that look similar to hiragana, but I decided to skip them, and instea learn them slowly while learning/grinding vncore.

>>21197569
Just learn the katakana, they're not that hard. Okay, they seemed harder to me than the hiragana, but they're not that bad. Just get it over with them, you need these little fuckers all the time.

>>21197576
I just can't into it, still I'm slowly learning them over time with a novel I'm reading on the website I'm using yomichan every two seconds tho.

>>21197589
How did you learn the hiragana, then?

>>21197569

>>21197605
dunno, they just clicked and now I can read them. I didn't even do the "write them 50 times" thing. I just read them couple of time and my brain decided it was a good time to write something that I will remember for the rest of my life.

i think its time to say that if u know of namasensei u should know japanese by now

>>21197610
Thanks my eyes have cancer now

Can somebody explain 偏差値 to me please

>>21197662
that means you gay

>>21197662
偏差の度合を表す値。特に「相対偏差値」の略で、平均値と等しければ五〇、それより標準偏差の値だけ大きければ六〇というように、一定の方式で当の値を変換した値。

>>21197680
So 偏差値50 is average?

>>21197689

>>21197662

>>21197722
>US black

>>21197722
man it feels good being that superior to nearly everyone

>>21197722
>i have the highest iq in here

>>21197729
You're not superior if you waste your IQ shitposting in this thread senpai

>>21197751
mental masturbation is about as high iq as it gets dude

>>21197758
Yeah it's high IQ but it doesn't make you superior

sorry im not using my amazing intellect to make things better for all u socialist crybabies who want a handout

the weak should serve the strong not the other way around

>>21197764
Kenya superpower by 2020

>>21197772
anata wa gei

ill let this dude (also high iq) tell it to u real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paEerSSgM0s

>>21197780
hes black he cant be high iq. the diagram proves it

>>21197786
yah but then he pulls out the bands and u be like oh snap son

DPOLT

>>21195301
I can't speak a single thing. I fare better reading. Still have difficulty writing

>>21197569
>but being able to recognize them so easily and starting to know their meaning is pretty cool.

same here. saw 兄 on テレビ and almost knocked my keyboard off my desk because of how excited i got.

calvin posting from beyond the haka lol we miss u buddy

>>21198034
Calvin looks like THAT？？？

he made some poor choices

nu-fren here, give me a quick rundown on this calvin guy.

fat, lazy, black

quit learning japanese and never looked back

till he decided to give the whole japanese thing another whack

mama wa taimanin!

>>21198249
Your mother smokes weed? how fucking dank xD

I attempted to learn Japanese some years back and gave up. I went through the entirety of Heisig 1, and learned to write every kanji in the book. But when I started working on vocabulary, I found that I had a hard time distinguishing them. It was like being able to write them wasn't necessarily enough for me to be able to identify them on site. I realized I should have learned it the other way around, just learning to recognize them, or rather study that in addition to learning to write them. This was extremely discouraging and I gave up. I think I'm going to start again, though. Thanks for reading my blog.

Is cramming really bad or causes problems? Can you cram on anki effectively?

I'm having alot of fun studying Anki and I've been at it for 3 hours... But I'm not fucking up my memory am I? If I did 5 hours of Anki a day (I'm neet) am I gonna fry my feeble noggin?

>>21198270
You were fucking dumb. Anything you can produce from scratch you can also recognise. It just takes a bit of practice to have that readily available.

yah i dont really get how u do rtgay memorize every kanji by its rads be able to write them from memory but then cant distinguish between them ? uhhh mega retard alert

>>21198297
I thought that would be the case too, but it wasn't. I mean, there were plenty that I could recognize, and still can years later, but the more complicated ones became an issue. Maybe I am just stupid and need the extra step of recognition training. I don't know.

>>21198297
>Anything you can produce from scratch you can also recognise
dude i have no fucking idea why you keep insisting on this. what even sense does it make to say that you can do something EXCEPT you need practice? THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. and it's not "a bit of practice" - you have to expose yourself to the kanji many times while reading. i would know. that's what it was like for me. instead of saying RTK allows you to instantly recognize all kanji why not say "it helps"?

>>21198270
that's normal. look at any site where people talk about doing RTK in the beginning and tons of them will talk about being unable to recognize a lot of them in the wild. but that's not really important. look up the word and move on.

all i can say is every minute u spend not watching 10000 hours of eng subbed anime is another minute longer its gonna take u to start learning nihongo

What's even the point of all this Japanese is impossible, kanjis are killing my brain, I can't understand conjugations at all, and I just discovered the two diffrent readings kanji have.

Just fucking kill me why couldn't I've been interested in a language that uses actual normal ass latin letters god fucking dammit.

Well see you guys, going to grind some anki and keep reading tae kim

just enjoy the experience :^)

An inflated ego is the quickest way to slow down your progress.

after you learn japanese you can go on to learn any other language so long as you're interested. but if you're not interested that's fine because you've demonstrated your power by learning the most difficult language in the world for english (and probably most other indo-european language) speakers

>>21198330
Well that's good to know I'm not the only one. I was thinking of going back through it, but only doing it for recognition. It shouldn't take very long that way, especially since I still remember a decent bit from before.

>>21198349
>the two diffrent readings kanji have
some have over 10..

>>21198349
>why couldn't I've been interested in a language that uses actual normal ass latin letters god fucking dammit.
You don't even need Latin letters. Any normal alphabet will do. People always make fun of Greek, but you can easily learn the Greek alphabet in like an hour. Shit is so easy.

>>21198365
You ruined the surprise for him...

>>21198365
what

Anyone ever experience this type of sensation? It's like you end up hitting a wall and can't really improve anymore, but you just keep at it, and eventually you'll suddenly get a jolt of improvement that seems like it comes out of nowhere, and your ability will be noticeably better. I think of it as "leveling up" since that's what it feels like.

>>21198378

>>21198384
That happens to me with guitar.

>>21198364
this is a recognition/lazy kanji deck that cuts out 1200 of the less frequent kanji in RTK so you can start vocab/reading sooner. otherwise i think it's the same order, uses the same keywords, etc:
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-1/practice/lazy-kanji/
but if you already remember a "decent bit" then i don't see the point in doing RTK again. just start a vocab deck like vncore (in the CoR) and start reading.

>>21198392
Missing ジョウ as well for on (for example 養生）

>>21198384
Its all perception, you're getting better whether you know it or not the more you do it. I have days where I'm like Oh my god I'm so good at japanese now holy shit and that's always followed by the next day where I run into a bunch of new words and go into a depression because I realize I suck still. It's better to be depressed though because that's when you're actually getting better. The suffering is good.

>>21198362
I mean, the only language I've learned is english, and it was just because I was forced (although my father insisted that I didn't had to put that much effort since they have ESL classes in Miami).

It was a bliss for me, I remember something clicked and suddenly I began learning words like crazy, it reached the point were 90% of the media I consumed was in english, by choice.

Think about it, I went all english all the time in order to learn english. Guess AJATT can actually work.

>>21198395
Those two decks are really good, I'm surprised they're not recommended more (oh right because the retarded immutable guide still suggests core6k)

>>21198395
Thanks for letting me know about that. Reading through the article now.

>>21198393
if i ever made a nihongo guide it would be like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb5QaCfm7bg#t=14

>>21198432
That guy said he practiced guitar like 24/7 when he was a child, that's why he's that good. If only I had the knowledge I have right now when I started learning guitar...
My mindset is so fucked up now that I can't put hours to try to learn something.

>>21198432
If I made a guide it would be like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wniXxeTJlyM

>>21198456
yah most of the really world class guys started young and learned how to play right

its not about the hours u put in tho its about the time u put in doing the right things the right way

meditating might actually help too unironically cuz the older u get the more ur head gets filled with shit constantly that distracts and detracts from the task at hand

>>21198471
that is some shit lol needs more of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmoUXHgePs

If I made an onomatopoeia guide it would be like this
https://youtu.be/tyneiz9FRMw

cute

agreed nice vid

>>21198289
halp

depends if u cram too hard and get all plugged up ur gonna have all kinds of problems

>>21198289
As long as you're enjoying yourself how can it be bad? You're doing better than people that skip days out of frustration

>>21198485
This is the best guitar guide video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBSI_QQnTrI

>>21196354
>If I drop this ln and don't finish it in favour of more compelling content, will that encourage dekinai habits?
No. Perfectionist thinking like this is itself a dekinai habit though.

>>21198539
buckethead ftw lol

>thrash metal
sorry, you must be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan.

all kinds of metal is good

everythings good except this guys posting >>21198566

When I've read こころ (my 8th "real" novel) how good will i be

>>21198599
that depends how much you understand and how easily you came to understand it

how long have u been learning japanese and how much of this do u understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlsdx_IDhwQ

>>21198406
That's not an additional reading, that's just a modification. I forget the name for it, though. The reading just get's softened (ta->da and so on).

>>21198612
I understood that he is calling you and OP gay

well hes not wrong

You are all faking it. The only way to learn is to take classes and watch japanese pod 101 and also lots of grammar exercises.

he figured it out oh fuck

I can read h-scenes really well.

>>21198643
https://vocaroo.com/i/s11PEEfnUjfz

SHUT DOWN THE ITAZURANEKO WEBSITE HE FIGURED IT OUT

What's the point of learning how to write kanji? I don't ever plan on living in Japan, so it's a skill I would literally never use, and the only way I could keep the knowledge would be to use Anki or something, since there would be no real world practice or applicability. It seems like a big pain in the ass with no benefit.

>>21196354
If you aren't interested in something, you should drop it and move on. You are only holding yourself back. I spent 3 months reading 1 chapter in Kino no Tabi because I wasn't enjoying it but couldn't get myself to drop it.

Matt also mentioned in one of his videos that one of his mistakes was not dropping things when he lost interest.

You mean stroke order?

Yeah they useless as fuck.

>>21198684
I've mastered this. I've dropped pretty much everything except a couple of things here and there. Like literally kept dropping LN's, Manga, books, hundreds of things and finally found stuff that stuck and I liked it so much I started to write it all out and really wrap my brain around every part. If you just keep dropping stuff it works out in the end because you're still learning a bit of it at the start when you're curious and you'll find stuff eventually you wont drop but it mike take 200 things later.

>>21198676
..because learning how to write it isn't much harder than learning to read it except you get the added bonus of knowing the kanji better and being able to recreate it.

>>21198574
The only good kind of metal is DSBM.

https://youtu.be/J9bYqF9E1gk

>>21198676
Because learning to write kanji is a microscopic bit of extra effort on top of just learning kanji. Stop being a lazy illiterate peasant.

none of you will ever be able to write kanji that didn't look like a 3 year old wrote it with a crayon anyway so there really is no point

>>21198733
>>21198782
You are illiterate idiots that don't know what they are talking about. You can neither read nor write Japanese. You are free to prove me wrong in the quiz but you won't because you are pussies full of shit that build up an ego because they did RTK. Losers.

is quizmaster our guy?

What went right?

Rogaine?

ついにきたか

>>21198805
man he looks like a fuckin old ass baby wouldnt be surprised if he was strapped up in a diaper lmao

>>21198809
the average japanese 3 year old, yeah

>>21198813
Most Japanese handwriting I've seen looks like chicken scratch.

>>21198805
>>21198811
How did he get his hair back tho?

>>21198818
https://discord.gg/Cc7D6cw
Here you go dude.

>>21198795
behold quizmaster lol
>>21193165
>>21193168
>>21193174
>>21193211

>>21198819
he prolly just did this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjRRgAYWnUA

>>21198792
I took calligraphy classes and kanji isn't nearly as hard as you think it is. You're projecting your own shitty skills onto others.

>>21198815
im sure you're reading a lot of handwritten japanese shit. post an example and then compare it to a typical foreigners attempt at writing kanji and if you think there's not a substantial difference then you're retarded. there's a difference between writing something quickly and writing something in a way that makes you look like you have downs.

>>21198826
Are you retarded? It's a slurred version of です, I explained that and even linked a video showing how it sounds. Why did you leave that out?
>>21193183

It's not a "lisp" you fucking idiot. Jamal is a retard that doesn't know jack shit. Back into your hole loser.

lol more successful than i imagined

>>21198825
Lol when i get home from work i'm gonna school you.

>>21198795
How's your pitch, writing, listening, word reproduction, and enunciation? You can prove you're decent at one things, that's cute, but you're probably dog shit at the other many things are you wouldn't keep harping on it.

It's pretty unfair that the quizmaster sets his own server with his own not that he programmed and says it's somehow related to Japanese ability. Why not just go based on JCAT score? Except you're not the best in that case!

>>21198819
Hair transplantation with Patreon money.

>>21198860
lol

>>21198862
The quiz bot is public that anyone can add to any server. It's also on the itazura discord, retard.

Wow the quizmaster just got absolutely owned in the quiz LMAO. Sit down!

why join ur discord to own u in the quiz when i can just run circles around u here

>>21198869
Just because you made your own bot public doesn't mean you didn't program it. Noone had ever even heard of this bot until you mentioned it here.

>>21198869
put a bullet through your head

>>21198875
Hahaha nobody showed up bitch stop making shit up. You are the fucker that always talks big in the thread but never shows up.

>>21198878
Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it wasn't known. It's practically on every Japanese learning Discord chat.

*pushes up glasses* i dont mean to brag but im kind of on all the japanese learning discords

>>21198844
I already wrote these out this morning on my tablet. It's funny you think it's so hard.

>>21198885
hes like one punch man he has to hunt for a strong opponent to overcome his depression. one quiz man

http://kotobaweb.com/bot

>>21198887
i hope this is sarcastic. these are literally the kind of down syndromic looking scribbles I was talking about hahaha.

your kanji look NOTHING like what they're supposed to

>>21198892
some of them are literally perfect, and this isn't even writing practice just recall practice lol, but nice projecting, because I'm sure yours looks worse

>>21198904
LMAO which of those are perfect?

>>21198887
lol

awawawa
ara ara~
ara ara maa maa~

>>21198910
i hope u look good in a skirt cuz ur gonna have to be my girlfriend now

>>21198904
why post your handwriting if it's not "writing practice"? you know when Japanese write they aren't practicing either, but they still don't look like Frankenstein's monster wrote it with a pen the size of an oar

>>21198887
Your kanji look pretty okay to me, but your kana look a bit weird. Is your pen to big to write them properly?

>>21198909
Im going to the ばくじょー to give my うしゃ some えす

>>21198914
Do you like hairy legs?

>>21198907
some of the line wobles are just from writing on a slippery tablet screen, you can't avoid that, like I said these are just recall practice and jotted down in seconds, but I've taken calligraphy classes and there's nothing special about kanji

not to brag or anything but i've got the best handwriting (better than natives)

>>21198887
>>21198909
LMAOing at these RTKtards.

>>21198928
just go home kid. your kanji writing is all wrong. like for example on kanji 3 you did stroke #4 before stroke #2. and it shows. you simply weren't made for japanese.

>>21198928
your handwriting is fucking garbage dude. go and compare it to any native or any handwritten font, and then compare it to a 5 year old Japanese kids writing.. i don't think kanji is hard but you need a lot more practice for it to look natural like a native's and not like a child is writing it (yours). literal years of writing.

>>21198927
we can get u waxed up and ready to go

>>21198934
dont fuckin @ me

>>21198943
If you want something from me you need to earn it in the quiz. Until then I do whatever the fuck I want.

>>21198887
>>21198909
>>21198934
also why are some of the readings written in katakana. (if you think 池(いけ）is an on you shouldn't be learning the stroke order just yet (^_-) )

nihongo people don't have really great handwriting though

>>21198942
if the native is writing on a tablet it will look the same, but I could master kanji writing in a few years, you don't need a lifetime like you think

>>21198840
Why do you keep taking the bait, m8?

>>21198957
he's autistic, he can't discern bait from real posts

>>21198957
I am simply defending my honor against the unable weaklings of this chat that rather than just beat me in the quiz when I give everyone the opportunity to try at any moment have to rely on spreading falsehoods about me.

Holy fuck, literal retardation. Seek help.

>>21198953
that's clearly much much better than the guy who posted his lol, and if you can't see that you don't know japanese

>>21198964
>defending my honor
>on an anonymous image board
consider seppuku

>>21198964
you should put a bullet through your head

Filter out posts with the word quiz, thread suddenly gets exponentially better hmmm

>>21198969
its funny cuz when u take this post >>21198792 then look at this post >>21198887 its fuckin like 大爆笑

>>21198954
the problem with your kanji has nothing to do with tablet shit, you clearly don't understand how they're supposed to actually look. go and compare any of your examples to the actual examples given for stroke order and you will see they are way off. you're a beginner who doesn't even know how to write the correct kana for words he is learning so you need to stop pretending you know what you're talking about. save that image and look at it in 5 years and you will cringe hard as fucm

>>21198976
Here I got more to make the thread better for you:

/RTK/i;boards:jp
/matt/i;boards:jp
/Heisig/i;boards:jp
/AJATT/i;boards:jp
/textbook/i;boards:jp
/sentence card/;boards:jp
/JLPT/;boards:jp
/jamal/;boards:jp
/naruto/;boards:jp
/antimoon/;boards:jp
/reddit/;boards:jp
/mia/;boards:jp

>>21198984
>save that image and look at it in 5 years and you will cringe hard as fuc
RTKtards don't last 5 years, they barely last a couple months

>>21198984
大賛成

>>21198989
/anki/i;boards:jp

>>21198989
at that point you can just stop coming here entirely
maybe you should do that

>>21198998
I don't actually use those filters it was just a suggestion.

>>21198984
I have hundreds of pages already saved. I'll never cringe at it because it's not that bad. Less than a third of those aren't perfect stroke order. I think you're only looking at the bad ones on there or something and unless you can post yours you can't say anything.

>>21199004
you should stop coming here anyway (also kys)

>>21199004
reading this post while imagining that fat retard hand that was posted like last thread frantically deleting his filter lol

>>21199007
>unless you can post yours you can't say anything
that really isn't an argument. your shit is bad and it doesn't take a lot of knowledge to see that. don't worry it will get better

>>21199022
it kinda is an argument tbqh
how can we know your opinion on kanji writing is worth anything if we haven't seen your own writings

>>21198805
>>21198819
from a few days ago
https://a.uguu.se/z4VH1QqebAK3.webm

>tablet life

>>21199012
Honestly I just remembered I posted that filter half a year ago already and searched for it in the archive, got rid of it long ago because I rid myself of the illusion that this chat is anything but shitposting.
And I posted my hand already. >>21188538
It is a healthy young man's hand.

>>21199031
because i most definitely have read more handwritten shit by natives than you have. Also very probably read a lot more than you in general

>>21199031
we're not taking anon's word for it. we're recognizing for ourselves that the other guy's kanji is bad and anon is merely pointing it out.

>>21199034
it's not too bad. I couldn't make out your 勝負 but I also didn't know that word.

やさしいよ

>>21198819
meditation

>>21199064

>>21199033
it's extremely normal for men with european ancestry to have hairlines that naturally recede that far during puberty then stop receding entirely until they're like 50
and if they keep receding then all they have to do is take some estrogen :^)

really makes you realize youth is pretty short
your 20s are only 10 years

>>21199056
then how come your hand writing is so bad you wont post it?

>>21198964
Everyone can see he's just winding you up. You don't need to defend anything. The only thing you do by taking his bait over and over again is make yourself look like an idiot and/or an autist.

If you can't handle people having negative opinions about you, then maybe you should stop namefagging and drawing attention to yourself and just post as an anon.

>>21199007
it has nothing to do with "perfect stroke order". you just don't get it. the angle, balance, and direction of your strokes is just off.

ive posted my handwriting in this thread many times and people don't actually know what good handwriting looks like cause they think right is better than left

i give his handwriting a strong 4/10

>>21199099
I mean, I'm 20, 10 years seems like a long fucking time to me, is quite literally half the time I've been alive.

>>21199088
No.

>>21199035
my thoughts are now as they were then

>>21199110
I'm 20 and I don't remember much from before I was 17.

>>21199110
20-30 is gonna go by in the blink of an eye and ur gonna wake up in ur 30s one day and just go what hte fUCk

save this post for that day and come find me maybe ill still be here posting well into my 50s

>>21198942
this is a 5 year olds kanji

>>21199127
Alright anon see you in ten years.

Also, me from 10 years, can you speak Japanese already you lazy-ass motherfucker?

i hope i'm not in djt by the time i turn 20 (震え）

>>21199131
that's more than the quizcuck knows how to write lol

do I have downs handwriting guy

>>21199131
why doesnt the 5 year old just throw up his hands and say kanji is fuckin gay fuck this shit and fuckin trash the room

>>21199146
ur actually just crazy person w. other misc mental issues

>>21199148
did my saying downs upset you

>>21199146
you change your style kanji to kanji, to be honest some look pretty good though

>>21199141
Lol you are wrong. I'm attacking RTK shitters because I am more educated on learning to write and have the best method.
Ask me again in a year and I will have at least my kanken level 2 certificate. I'm kind of lazily progressing my writing because it's fucking useless but that much I can promise.

>>21199107
Isn't the left just cursive and the right one the equivalent to "print" in roman letters? So technically both are correct, but the left one goes easy off the hand?

>>21199155
not really it was the image u attached to ur post that did it

>>21199171
gl future kanken guy jr were all cheering for u

I am actually more educated than all of you.
I have read more, I know more kanji, I understand everything I listen to, and natives always understand me when I speak.
Get on my level. Oh wait, you won't.

Give it to me straight, what makes RTK such a meme here?

>>21199173
The left isn't "cursive", it's basically "print with the strokes slurred together where it doesn't impact readability at all". It's like how people who handwrite in the latin alphabet slur their lowercase letters together even when they're not using cursive.

>>21199171
>I am more educated on learning to write and have the best method.
Go on then, let's hear it.

>>21199187
it has nothing to do with learning japanese

>>21199107
nice image on the right shows how gaijin u are but the left makes it okay and not even a problem

rtk is a meme i passed n4 without it eazy

>>21199107
The left one not so bad except for your spacial awareness but the right is supposed to be print and it's a nightmare. It's cute you thought that was postable and you were trying your hardest

how good do i have to be at writing kanji to get some sweet nip 熟女s

>>21199211
weve seen enough rtgay failures to know that u still have to do the learning of japanese part for rtgay to have an impact

its just that simple rtgay is optional and honestly u should just try the learning japanese part first instead

>>21199230
u'd have to leave ur moms basement for that LMAO

>Having a vocab deck and not a sentence deck
Lol.

>>21199235
what if u just got them to come to ur moms basement lol

>>21199240
not even the kanjimaster is strong enough to make that happen

>>21199216
n4 is nothing you tard

dang u know this threads fucked when they reply seriously to the sarcastic 1liners lmao

>>21199238
>Not having a hybrid deck and mostly just reading

>>21199191
The problem with RTK is that it only teaches you to recall Kanji based on English keywords. The result is that you do end up being able to write some things, but you can't do anything valuable with that limited writing ability and certainly can't write Japanese prose. Note how there has never been an RTK retard that passed Kanken despite unending claims about being able to write.

Here comes my method. It has some elements which would not strictly not be required (I will explain shortly) but it is definitely the best way to learn to write. The important thing is doing this after you have learned to read. What I do to prepare for a kanken level is take all relevant Kanji and readings and figure out the optimal way to cover the maximum amount of information in as little cards as possible (I made up a system for this so it's not as tedious as it sounds). Now I use my Anime cards to create reverse writing cards covering all the previously gathered information using the sentences with the writing relevant part being kanafied. Here is an example of such cards:

https://streamable.com/k9enc

The optional element obviously being all the voiced anime stuff, but I add it because it makes reviews fun and I want to enjoy doing this shit.

Now don't you think this is where I stop. I use the Kanken Training 2 game to simulate real tests and add all the information that I didn't get to the deck until I get a perfect score in the simulation. That way I GUARANTEE that I have attained mastery over a kanken level upon which I move on to the next one.

RTKtards probably won't appreciate this. They are simple minded fools that can do no more than follow the most simple of instructions. I spit on you.

bottom 心 radical is the hardest thing to write well

>>21199251
fuck off, it's literally impossible to tell sarcasm on the internet. you need tone of voice etc. to tell sarcasm. its your fault people dont get your sarcasm

>>21199261
just do what i do and pretend its all 1 big joke lol

i didnt make the "eazy" post tho btw

>>21199255
patrician progress-core (if you also do listening unlike that dude earlier yikes)

>>21199258
if this guy passes kanken level 2 in a year ill write quizmaster across my butt cheeks (quiz on left cheek master on right cheek) and post pic in djt

>>21199273
You better be here then.

What about kanken 1? is it even worth knowing those kanji

Can't texthook the battle/combat tutorial so I'm dropping Baldrsky.

>>21199273
it's literally just the joyo set?
now level 1 is 6k+ kanji.. that I'd tattoo my ass for

>>21199281
word is it looks pretty good on a resume

>>21199281
There are several hundred worth learning to read that you will come across, but actually going for writing them all is definitely of no use. I'm still debating with myself whether I should or not, might do it just to shit on DJT.

>>21199282
>needing a text hooker
lmao @ your life

>>21199258
this method sucks cock bro

>>21199291
It doesn't. It surpasses RTK and rivals by far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJf1IXAupmY
does kanken1 even matter when you're still all かたこと

>>21199283
its not just that tho lol also i didnt say tattoo just write like with a marker or something also to add insult to injury ill prolly have to get my wife to do the writing lmao and explain how its cuz i lost a bet on the internet

also level 1 is actually just impossible i dont think even mareni would pass it

>>21199295
no it doesn't tardo it doesn't give you any effective way to remember how to write the characters

>>21199258
Just letting you know that by having the gall to back your opinions and stand out from the crowd of mindless shitposters, you'll be turned into a scapegoat of sorts. People will pretend to be you and shit up threads as an attempt to force negative associations. Others will make up lies about your characters and spend inordinate amounts of time and effort seeing these lies grow into established memes.
There are a few extremely sad and petty individuals in this thread right now who will latch onto this show of personality, see it as a personal attack and hold onto the grudge for years to come. They will drag you down to their level the longer you stay and nothing you will post will changes their minds.

>>21199299
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCekKfzxgcijjvcpI9HoUGSA/feed
that guy passed it

>>21198395
Well I finally read that entire article (watched the videos too). And it convinced me to simply jump into Tae Kim or something and learn vocab as I come across it, and not do any more kanji study until later on. I already remember enough from when I did Heisig years ago that kanji don't look like nonsense to me; i.e. I can break them down to some degree. I don't remember most of the meanings anymore, but whatever. Will probably get started again tonight. Again thanks for posting that link, it was very helpful.