/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21118872
theres no such thing as incorrect pitch because there are 20 different variations of pitch style across japan.

what you're saying is like telling someone from fukushima they should brush up on their pitch accent if they dont want to get made fun of.

its their fuckin accent, it's how life is. just fucking accept people will think you say some words differently. noones fucking cringing about it when a gaijin says pitch accent wrong. they'll literally get on your knees and suck your dick if you can even say arigatou gozaimasu.

>>21118937
theres still incorrect intonation

easiest way is to just take the word こんにちは and look at the million ways to say it wrong and then the way to say it right

>attain perfect itibantuyoigaijin pitch
>lose the only thing cool about you
>get fired
>lose girlfriend
>friends stop talking to you

What's the cool thing you lost to get you fired?

>>21118934
>learn perfect pitch accent for tokyo
>go to Hiroshima and your pitch accent is useless
>Go on djt and tell everyone that if you dont have proper pitch accent they are stupid unintelligible gaijin anyway

>>21118937
>there's no such thing as incorrect pitch
as far as 標準語, yes there is. Natives that don't use 標準語's pitch accent aren't wrong by their own regions standards, but as has already been said, and can demonstrably be shown, other Japanese people still give them shit about it.
>noones fucking cringing about it when a gaijin says pitch accent wrong
甘いっすね. If you don't care about pitch accent that's fine, but acting like most of them don't care and would much more prefer if you spoke with correct pitch accent is naive

>>21118974
look some random videos of literal comedy shows where they are paid to take the piss out of each other or ppl being dicks online isnt enough proof that the avg native gives a fuck about pitch accent mistakes

u can say がんばるぞい if you like and noones gonna give a fuck

if you actually lived in japan at any point you'd realise that noone cares and are just happy to meet a gaijin they can even fuckin communicate with at all

as long as your vowels and consonants are right and your prosody matches what you're trying to express and you're not pitching words the exact opposite of the way you're supposed to you're gonna be fine

matt is gay

okay, i'll be the first one to admit that I kinda miss quizfag

you know he's still here right?

>>21119035
hmm may that be because you are quizfag?

i'm starting to think manual lookups > instant lookups for learning and having words stick better...
for manual lookups you're forced to
1. recall words you already know to get the right kanji, or
2. draw the kanji by hand which is review for radicals
3. interact with the new word for more than one second overall

>>21119005
thanks for the useless common knowledge

>shit OP
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

*munches on さつまいも*

>>21118934
reminder djt is so bad they had to call in matt to beat the now de-throned quizmaster.

>>21119091
it was matt?

>>21119098
no it was me

>>21119098
yea he was worried about his identity being revealed by showing his full anki stats so who else would it be

>>21119091
shut up lacky like there isn't dozens of people that could of beat him lol he was lucky to last as long as he did

>>21118970
とうきょうことばもいいよ

でも

ほうげんももっといいよ

>>21119091
I thought quizmaster started on /djt/.
>>21119103
sensei...

So if 可 means "can" and 也 is an old way of saying "to be", then 可也 (かなり) literally means "can be"?

>>21119052
always glad to be of service

>>21119118
no because classically 可 meant 良い not "can"

https://kobun.weblio.jp/content/%E5%8F%AF

>>21119118
可也というと

だれかのなまえかな

よみかたややこしそうっておもう

>>21119117
allegedly but who's to say for sure

Am I right that 床 means both floor and bed, floor when read as ゆか and bed when read as とこ?
Is one of those super rare, or usually written in kana, or do I have to guess?

>>21119145
もっと漢字で書いてください

>>21119231
context nigga

>>21119231
yes. and I don't mean this in a rude way but this can be quickly verified with an online dictionary.

>>21119251
床に腰掛ける
what now faggot

>>21119257
dictionary doesn't say when one of the meanings is used 95% of the time, which is why i'm asking

>>21119243
あっ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9uSwKYzMMs

>>21119243
可也と云うと誰かの名前哉。読み方ややこしそうって惟う。

>tfw taking Japanese classes starting this summer at uni
See ya later dekinais

>>21119261
>what now faggot
That's not context, that's just a sentence fragment
If the author is describing a room without a bed in it that would be unambiguous through context, for example

>>21119110
maybe in Matt-samas discord but not here

>>21119231
japs sleep on the floor, is why.

>>21119327
woah

>>21119110
>like there isn't dozens of people that could of beat him
>could of
learn english first.

also the guy didn't even come from djt he was invited and said himself he hadn't gone to djt in years. this place is full of eternal turbodekinais.

>>21119327
くつでいえにあがる

いずほわい

>>21119365
>いずほわい
damn u a trolling ass motherfucker

i've been gone for like a week wtf did i miss

>>21119352
esl? it's common as fuck to say it that way pleb

I'm browsing a thread about the bebop netflix thing on 2chan.net and saw this.

>ハンバーグ師匠
Do nips make fun of americans calling them burgers too? I really don't understand what else it could be.

>>21119411
>bebop netflix
oh shit thanks for the heads up

>>21119411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmqRW06VcAU
ever heard of google

>>21119426
i'm going to be honest googling it genuinely did not come to mind.

>>21119426
ハンバーグ！

>we're obsessed with honor
>but we'll roast the fuck out of our closest allies daily

>>21119461
>all of Japan is one person
By the way, who the fuck are we quoting?

>>21119466
there is literally youtube channels dedicated to roasting the US bro and if you watch any youtube long enough you hear them take their shots at us

>>21119481
>its not a thing for any country to banter about other countries that are their close allies
>canadians never joke about the US
>Americans never joke about Britain
wtf is wrong with you?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSHzI-t58X8STwqjfSzp47w/videos
I think 井上 alone has over 100 US roastie videoes, some are kind of funny tho lol

>>21119461
Good, the US sucks and deserves roasting. The US is not even a coherent country, it's a shopping mall full of overweight people with no ties to each other.

>>21119461
The USA is not allied with Japan. The USA occupies Japan. I hope Japan can throw off the yoke of American oppression.

>>21119524
>The USA occupies Japan.
Get a load of this guy.

>>21119524
I likewise hope the Japanese stop free-riding on American military spending on the region to avoid having an actual defense budget, thereby continually stimulating their national economy.

ハンバーグ！！！

>>21119524
USA only occupies that island with the funny accent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74i3MqeyMZw

new Matt

恋人つなぎ

>>21119633
>not including native speakers from different parts of Japan as a control
詐欺

>>21119633
remember to do your duty

>>21119401
i could care less about what's common, its a doggy dog world out there. for all intensive purposes it's wrong.

>>21119669
what's up with people saying different parts of japan have different accents so My horrible accent doesn't matter?
They have a consistent accent that shows where they are from.
A gaijin accent just shows you're uneducated.

How do you say "that [adjective]"? I've come across a need to say it like 10 times this past week.

>I didn't know you were THAT busy
>It's not THAT cold
>I'm not THAT hungry (I guess this would be a verb but still)

>>21119633
>Answer: No
I'm glad he puts his incorrect opinion in the description so I don't have to hear his voice.

>>21119777
do you think that dave specktor, whos in his video, would paid to MC and present events in japanese if the audience were cringing at his japanese pitch accent?

the idea is honestly laughable

>>21119782
そんなに

>>21119804
when I saw him in the video it really elevated my confidence desu lol

>>21119813
y'know that makes sense and I thought of that but second-guessed myself. Thanks

Yoshi time to learn nihongo.

>>21119729
>i could care less
Looks like you need some english lessons yourself

>>21119352
>like there isn't dozens of people
like there aren't

You could have at least pointed out his actual ESL-tier mistake. You're both pretty shit at English lol

>>21119889
he quoted both mistakes. r u retarded?

Stop wasting your time trying to obtain perfect accent and become indistinguishable from native speakers. Literally no foreigner has managed that with English either.

I found out recently the dictionary on macos tells you which 日本語のアクセントの型 category a word falls into. it looks really useful, but I can't find any good non-macos alternatives that do the same thing. anyone able to point me in the right direction?

>>21119889
A major portion of my life have been dedicated to studying japanese so I could care less bout your english-nazism.

>>21119909
After puberty it's either impossible or you'll get it naturally anyway, despite what Matt tries to say.

>>21119953
Impossible seems like a strong word... I think if a native japanese speaker tazered you at a low setting every time you got a pitch accent wrong, eventually you would learn

>>21119920
１０ねんくらいすんでると

えいごのはくすうも

かぞえたくなるらしいよ

叮T

>>21120025
I really dont know if you can or not but if it is biologically impossible then youre just fucked and nothing will help

begun, the accent wars have

>starting to get burned out on anki
>if i take a break i'll be swamped with a gorillion reviews
what do

>>21119909
The kids at my school that went over to america for an exchange year came back with a pretty good accent (not perfect obv) where their accent was really lacking before. It looks like effort is enough to get it improved.

>>21120070
say fuck it and read for a while and immerse, you can if you turn off new words for a while it wont be too bad when you return

trainは

なんはく？

What does そんなこと mean exactly and why do I see it everywhere

>>21118934
fake hair
fake hands
fake success

>reach about 1k words on core
>everything suddenly starts to become work or political related kanji's
all i'm seeing is variations of 会 and 社 and it's driving me nuts

>>21120070
It doesn't go away, soon it will cut into your reading because you'll try to get your reviews done before anything else and take most of the day to bring yourself to do it. Just quit anki, in a few months you'll be glad you did.

>>21120136
>quit
but i'm actually learning, and it's not like it's just kanji isolation, everything is used as an example in a sentence as well which helps

私には全く分かりません。

>>21120142
You'll learn more by reading more. Anki is only good if you actually enjoy it

>>21120149
i mean i tried reading yotsuba and i can understand maybe 30% of the kanji on it, so i'm not sure if i'm ready yet. and what's even harder than the kanji is the hiragana, because you don't know where one word begins and where it ends with grammar sometimes

ちょこたべたい

めっちゃたべたい

souda
jibun, ass wo tabetakatta

that feel when actually writing kanjis and meditating on their meaning help so much with memorization but takes too much time.

Help I still don't really understand the difference between に and へ. The former is more flexible while the latter is more specific? They're both location particles but the way Tae explains it doesn't make much sense.

>>21118993
listening to someone speak english poorly is subconsciously telling your brain something is wrong which can get annoying. it depends on the person. its the same in any language. reading with correct pitch will also improve your listening.

>>21120199
に and へ can both be used for location but に can also be used for time while へ can not.

>未来への扉

you guys are calm when the sun goes down

上ってるんだけどいま

enkou shojo wo sagasouka

All the retards who dont actually give a shit about learning Japanese leave once its time to go to bed thats why

茶わん

>>21120199
he is pretty much towards

いいだけにできないでいろう

>>21120311
It is e not he

>>21120325
You don't know japanese

>>21120334
Dont give people false information

yoshiwara he ikou

>>21120349
u sure u know what u say?

AはBが守る

does this mean A will protect B, or B will protect A?

>>21120363
As for A, B will protect

>>21120363
latter

Todays animal is: 貂 (てん)

whats with the romanization elitism these last couple threads
u shit on gambare but u also shit on ha and now u shit on he
do u want the sound or do u want nihonsiki make up ur mind

>>21120442
You don't know japanese

>>21120298
はつおんおかしいよね

ちゃわんって

>>21120444
i keep tellin u that already so say what u really want to say bud

more respect for the zenging crew than yall afraid to state ur beliefs on nippongo phonetics

>>21119909
esl fags aren't the standard I wanna reach

>>21119876
woosh, retard

>>21120488
no matter what you think, you're not going to ever sound entirely native. A real native speaker will figure out something wrong with your accent within a minute of talking to you. Also they usually won't care and at most ask where you're from (as if it's not obvious if youre a white guy speaking Japanese)

>(as if it's not obvious if youre a white guy speaking Japanese)
What abotu white guys born and still living in japan? They should sound native as hell.

>>21120611
For the approximate dozen people where this might apply I'm sure it's true, and I'm sure they still get asked where theyre from.

I get all my input from little girl anime and manga desu wa

Are those cards the quizmaster makes good for increasing listening comprehension? I feel like I know a lot of words when I'm reading but I cannot hear them when I listen to anime.

>>21120695
no testing listening comprehension inside of Anki names it take stupid amounts of time

Why are images always deleted in DJT? Is the janny or mod easily triggered by "right wing memes" ? Pepe and wojack are deleted. Now OP's donald trump pic is deleted.

>>21120716
You don't belong here

does anyone else find writing kanji fun and therapeutic

>>21120716
It's all part of adopting the cancerous chat style of never replying to people as well. Some people feel more elitist for not posting pictures in the same way. Nevertheless you should not post those retarded memes here either way.

Why does djt make fun of esls?

>>21120751
Because on this board the default assumption is that 95% of it's users are English natives. It's probably closer to 40% in reality.

>>21120756
Why would anyone assume that?
any board with flags is filled woth non english speaking flags. Why would anyone think it would be any different here?

>>21119715
Thanks almost forgot

>>21120751
You would think people trying to learn a second language would be a little more self aware, but you would be wrong.

>>21120751
I hate poor foreigners

>世界で一番硬い...
in this is the で needed? what does it do and can it be implied(in other words, not actually written)?

What's a good english equivalent for チビ助?

>>21121050
miniature ... ? maybe?

>>21121043
It marks a place

>>21121043
I've seen 世界一 more often than any other combination.

>Open up first real NHK article after finishing every NHK Easy article from 2017 to the end of this winter
>Only 15 new words and most of them are shit I don't care about like the word for a house completely burning down
So this is what it feels like to notice a Level Up all at once.

Also why does the janitor keep deleting OP's image

>>21121050
I don't know about 助 but "chibi" is an extant loanword in the context of Japanese art and character designs.

minna genki ? lol

Damn shame there aren't more dictionaries in pdf form. I saw the Elementary School Student's Kanji Dictionary in the resources in the OP but I wanted a middle school one.

Thank fuck I finally decided to learn Japanese so I can read thought provoking kino like 俺の家が魔力スポットだった件~住んでいるだけで世界最強~

>>21121050
Pipsqueak?

>>21121164
I was gonna make fun of you for making fun of some random narou story you probably haven't read based on the title but then I noticed that the LN adaptation of it has incredibly horrible reviews.

>>21121110
I think it's neatt that there's a specific word for that at all. Also if OP has a shit image I usually report it.

>>21121174
No, I'm no stranger to shitty titles/premise, but OK executions. This is just straight up one of the worse things I've ever read. So it's only going to get a 2cour and a movie.

>>21121178
What was the image this time?

>>21121207
Jesus christ.

She's back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXyP5GeJFg

tromp

>>21121178
Yeah it's neat but it's not a word I care about until I internalize much more common words. I can just as easily say that a house burned down and I think most people would say that too, the single word is listed as a news word.

>>21121216
that thumbnail is so horrendous i cant get myself to even click the vid sorry

ok i caved and clicked it and lol dollys gone even further off the deep end what a surprise

>>21121216
She's right, not a single one of you fuckers told me a single thing from this video. The only fact you told me was わたしはゲイ

>>21119307
>Japanese classes
>5% of genki 1 done in a year

>>21119813
>>21119782
You should learn the nuance of it though. I've used it multiple times exactly how we use "that" in that way and have been corrected multiple times by Japanese people; its not always a 1:1 translatable word

>>21120120
literally it's "that thing" / "that kind of thing", but I've seen it used a lot like そんなことないよ meaning "it's not like that" or "that's not the case". I'm also assuming, though I'm not sure I've seen it used in this exact instance, that it can be used similarly to そういうこと which more loosely but naturally into English translates as "exactly" (literally "it's that kind of thing") when affirming what the other speaker(s) have said

>>21120363
Did you make this sentence yourself? I could he wrong, but 守る is a transitive verb, so if you want to say A will protect B, you would say AはBを守る, I don't think が works here. And if the sentence is natural I don't think it would be "A protects B"

>>21118934
>file deleted
fucking hell, the jannies on this board are so easily triggered. did hiroshimoot recruit them from tumblr or something?

>>21119920
there's the nhk accent dictionary. i don't have the download link, but if you look in the archive you might find it.

>>21121492
i dont exactly disagree but if they are spewing bullshit instead of explaining actual japanese to u then the vids are bad and shouldnt be watched

basically its important 2 note the grammar series is the only thing of any value

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRG1tWQN6e8#t=288

this thread is a quarantine zone tho

>>21121557
that's a fair point, but her implication is that her treatment is better in ways that matter, which i do disagree with. the only purpose of conscious grammar instruction is to make input comprehensible, ultimately whether you learn "コーヒーが好きです" as "i like coffee" or "coffee make me like it" makes no more difference than what mnemonic you use to remember vocabulary or whatever.

>>21119633
>After surveying as many high-level L2 Japanese speakers as I could find
>video shows 5 people, + himself
great sample size there matto

>>21119920
I don't understand this chart. Is it saying there's technically two dimensions/values per pitch accent? I'm only familiar with 0-4 so this makes it more complicated.

>>21121620
yea but i dont think their audience is day ones theyre trying to help scrubs who are basically stuck

like i say ive never really hated the way they explained grammar except that its rudimentary and very ironically enough single track

i still think her grammar series does fine in helping make some things more comprehensible to ppl who are stuck

really its just all their opinion pieces about how to study or consume media or w/e u wanna call it that gives me aids

>>21121647
dam Ur a retarded ass mfer. it's just showing where the pitch drops with different length words. a [3] drops on the third syllable regardless of word length

>>21121801
i did but its explanation was very gay.

good

>>21121832
>>21121896
just watch the dolly vid thats way too much words for something so simple

remibnder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27

>>21121910
>帰ってよ
Go back

>って
basically a verbal quotation mark

That's how I see it.

>>21121785
as for job being hated like that, is somewhat problematic.

>>21122200
>Nobody means that pitch accent literally doesnt matter, just that you'll pick it up anyway. What actually doesnt matter is just general accent.
It's actually the other way around. If your accent sounds good in general then people won't even notice that your pitch accent sounds weird, unless they're the kind of person who would complain about "upspeak" if they knew English, and people like that don't matter.

>>21122203
>Who besides autistic matt even gives a fuck about pitch accent?
Which is funny because Matt still doesn't have the 五十音 properly mastered.

>>21122300
Because flaws are sometimes interesting. It's in your differences that some will come to love you. Gaijin accent is a pleb filter of sorts.

>>21122300
>natives naturally have an aversion to foreign accents
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=are+accents+attractive

>>21122338
do you think all accents are "attractive" or only a select few under select circumstances?

>>21122350
it's going to partially come down to how attractive you look. If you're ugly then you'll be even more fucked probably.

>>21122350
I read a story about some kid who had a horrible speech impediment and got made fun of in elementary school but then he moved and during middleschool and onwards he just pretended that it was an unspecified foreign accent and everyone loved him for it. It's not "a select few", it's how you spin it. If you're easy to understand and talk clearly when necessary, and you're not doing anything ridiculous like pronouncing "the brine" as "she bleenay" you're gonna be fine.

>>21122377
>I read a story
cool story bro.

>>21122300
its better to be judged and fit the judgment than be a foreigner and sound so shockingly japanese that they have an existential crisis

>>21122406
if some accents are attractive but most aren't then it makes your objection kinda meaningless.

>>21122430
>but most aren't
You're bringing in new info that needs to be cited for your argument to hold any weight, especially since it's already been seen multiple times that at least some accents are sexy.

>>21121743
no

>>21121234
I want more of the Mexican doll.

>>21122459
You're giving your opinion, others have stated experimental research.

>>21122440

lmao

>>21122528
Basically this >>21122529
I also forget common words sometimes. I think the drop affected Broca's Area or something if I had to guess. May as well kill myself if it made learning another language impossible desu.

>>21122572
>eventually father told me to shut the fuck up and think before I spoke
nice of him

>>21122523
As a baby I rolled of the changing table because my mother was looking elsewhere and I was bored, she managed to catch me by my leg shortly before falling on the ground. I'm glad she did now ...

>>21122572
At least you'll never be as bad as a Japanese kid learning English.

>>21122594
I think he was trying to quit smoking around that time but yeah it threw me into 6 years of spending most of my time in my head. At least I'm not tempted to permanently cripple my Japanese because of it!

>>21122572
>eventually father told me to shut the fuck up and think before I spoke
Asshole, that's abusive. I just talked a lot as a kid and was told to talk less, now I have crippling social anxiety and stutter. You're not alone, stay strong.

>>21122605
>You're not alone, stay strong.
Uh I'm fine but thanks. I probably ended up better than I would have to be honest.

>get good at japanese
>find out I'm still bad

>>21119019
He isn't, he's just hasn't discovered the secret ancient Japanese art of nampa yet. Which is weird, considering how autistic and obsessed he is about Japanese.

>>21122203
Matt studied Chinese for a while. If you have an accent in Chinese, you will not be understood at best, and you'll be misunderstood or be seen as insulting at worst. He probably brought that thinking over to Japanese and pitch accent.

>>21122822
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSb5WbGe2UQ-vJqU3Vt9UNw/videos

>not knowing english has pitch accent too

>>21122854
give us an example

>>21122866
>>21122868
>matt was jamal all along

>>21122873
when foreigners make those mistakes it is a bit jarring/annoying. NOT SAYING it's everything, but it's a thing. it's very weird how much people hate pitch accent even when people who study pitch accent reiterate that it's not essential and repeat the same old platitudes.

>約束 yue1shu4 (verb) bind, restrain
wtf yakusoku means this in Chinese

>>21122455
mmm mmm, mmm mmm, OISHIII!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfY3-1ZK4S2BTQLDo_hVm4w

jesus fuck
https://twitter.com/Kinoko_Channel/status/1093683064822099968

>>21123065
ive done it for fun on a few choice titles just to lol

>>21122915
Oh, he'd been around for a while then before he took on his trip.
>>/jp/image/ZaZIpFVPBUzRm3WKtN76ZQ

When exactly did he start tripfagging, by the way? Was it just since a few days ago? For some reason Warosu's search doesn't seem to be working for names and tripcodes, and none of the other archives which archive /jp/ have search enabled.

>>21122909
>matt has a tutorial on it
Which tripfag-kun was apparently none too happy about ｗ: >>20905197
>I am definitely the first person who started recording audio using ShareX for Anki and I shared the idea here, which Matt took and slapped his own dumbass sentence mining shit on.

>>21121178
>Also if OP has a shit image I usually report it.
faggot

>>21121212
Even if the butthurt tumblrina janny deletes the OP image, you can still find it in the archive:
>>/jp/thread/21118934
>>/jp/thread/21092102

>>21123166
https://youtu.be/9y8Ktrnrc5o

>>21123200
once a month it hits someone that dolly is better than them

https://twitter.com/brimandgrind/status/1113675371054944256
huh weird. i thought no one cared.

>natives notice accents
oh no shit shit shit this proves i have to get nativelike pitch accent or theyll laugh at me
what is wrong with u desperate people lol

>>21123276
that bald bearded dude is a retard but basically dogen said it completely accurately in his post

"It’s very important for people who want to improve their pronunciation"

But isn't speaking in katakana and having wrong pitch accent the same thing?

>>21123316
but if i dont ill permanently crIPPLE myself and then people might be able to tell im not a native how could i live

>fucking hilarious how people cant string a single sentence together think that they need to focus on pitch accent
dude who in the world is arguing this.

>>21123336
idk dude u tell me i dont have the page handy

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1DSBJRSK2ai

>>21123353
u havent been here long have u

口紅ｓ

>>21123361
its cool he gets to be racist af

>>21123361
>now watch this video of various foreign katakana accents which is how 95% of foreigners actually speak
None of those are genuine foreign accent though. He is trying to force his accent to resemble another country while a foreigner would try to imitate japanese

>>21123361
that 1st guy is actually cringe inducingly good

also look at the comments on the first dudes video. u dont see a single bitter nip in the comment saying "lmao!! nice pitch accent!!"

meanwhile look at this video comments of a japanese guy who actually does speak all janky fucked up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkNrAIqDlIU

literally everyone is making comments about his 口癖 so which do u think is more important ?

>>21123407
I honestly don't, I was just interested to know the difference with katakana speech
I'll probably never visit japan and even if I do, I won't be staying more than 2 weeks, so I couldn't care less how I sound

I do plan on participating in various japanese communities like 5chan sometime though.

>>21123430
>did someone count how many times he said やっぱり
top kek

>>21123430
who are you trying to convince. there is not a single soul in the world who disagrees with you.

>>21123435
just sliding the pitch down a few semitones isnt enough to get it there unfortunately lol

>>21123462
There's an entire cult out there that firmly believes you shouldn't speak before your third year or you'll cripple your nihongeau.

>>21123462
read the last thread, there were tons of idiots arguing otherwise

If no one cares about how a foreigner (except indians) sounds like in their country, why would it be any different with japanese people?

>>21123473
niheaungeaux

people who became reasonably good at japanese

khatz: got divorced, withdrew from the world
matt: miserable asshole, hates himself and his life
dolly: absolutely batshit insane

is the japanese language like some sort of mind virus that destroys people?

>>21123501
moogy: read lots of porn for a few years

>>21123550
He is 100% still here just without his trip. He kept saying shit yesterday like "maybe tripfag wasnt so bad" and shit like that. But you are right it is only a matter of time before it's back on

>>21123531
dogens prob better off than those three and more socially adapted but u can tell hes fuckin weird
agree with the rest though in fact the cause is the youtubin not the nihongoin
>>21123552
based

>>21123620
>>21123623
Ah i see thanks.

>>21123633
Oh hey 団長 it's me, Barganzo. I'm interested in talking to you a bit more, is there somewhere I could do that? I noticed the discord link is gone

>>21123647
https://discord.gg/Cc7D6cw
I'm still in this chat. Though I'll probably keep browsing the threads.

>>21123647
he posted his discord lD you can just add him & keep out this thread u pair of nerds

>dolly

>>21123633
>there is other places to talk to people serious about learning Japanese with an earnest interest in Japanese media.
Imagine this mentally ill individual inviting random reddit pinoys to quiz on the "other better places" and getting kicked within 30 minutes

>>21123550
Bruh you are wrong or there are maybe 2 quiz tards. The chink that got banned is the second one. Browse the discord for a bit you will know what i'm talking bout . The original quiztard is still there and pipes from time to time

Absolute beginner here, only just finished memorizing Hirigana and Katakana. Does learning strokes matter at all? I really just want to read and speak japanese.

>>21123685
dont bother even learning to write then

>when you get recommended a shitty video you won't watch but you suddenly realize what the majin means after all these years

absolute beginner here

わ vs が whats difference ?

>>21123693
read guide dumbass

>>21123473
they believe that you'll sound worse if you speak early. that doesn't mean they think japanese will hate you or something for not having perfect pitch accent. the extrapolations being made itt are manic.

わたしはゲイ

>>21123693
wa vs ga right?

>>21123693
one is a particle

absolute beginner here
え vs に whats difference ?

がたしわゲイ

わたくしはじゃまる

absolute beginner here

i noticed ur all shit at japanese who wants to join my discord kanji quiz ?

>>21123669
I have no idea what you're talking about, whoever is "the other quizmaster" is irrelevant. The sperg shitting up the threads is the one I mentioned and any other personality involved stems from his stunt

>>21123705
は, が, and わ are all particles you noob

I'm going to get fluent in Japanese with 98% of my media being romantic comedies, see ya guys l8r lol

>>21123720
the original quizmaster is the guy with sharex method. THe chink is the second one

>>21123633
>The set of instructions that I once wrote was already posted
Can you re-up the videos you posted to mixtape.moe which are linked in that instructions image?

Mixtape suspended its service a few days ago so those vids are gone forever.

>>21123739
what chink?

>>21121532

>>21123739
i thought they were different but now i think he didnt gain his confidence until months after the sharex method reveal

>>21123763
I honestly don't know which videos those are anymore, it's been a few months since I posted that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnkRuFtsqX4
You can see me making one card here. I think it should be possible to figure everything out together with the instructions. There are also videos of a ton of card on that channel so you can see how I style them.

>>21123779
That one that got banned

>>21123810
the person who got banned from d*scord is the same person who posts sharex, the tripfag, the quizmaster. it's the same person.

>>21123800
>https://youtu.be/Io3Qk8FYiFM
>watching old hags

>>21123623
This is pretty cool.
https://tinyapps.org/screenshots/capture2text-jglossator.mp4

RTK or KKLC or KD?

Currently trying KKLC but i'm confused af

https://streamable.com/3kh3u

so-do a-to onraintte
omosiroiwa

don't trust a man who likes sword art online

Wasted all my day with only 1-2 h reading while i could go 6+. SUPER MAD

>>21122941
ew what the FUCK is this

>>21122995
>she

dolly do-jins when ?

newfags dolly is a Mexican man that brings out cumcovered dolls infront of coconut sellers and films then while being watched.

>>21124140
no mexican man talks in a british~ accent

>spent the whole week downloading vns, getting lucky with seeders on almost dead torrents
>hard drive decides to shit itself
>takes down my anki deck and everything else.
Back to the drawing board, I guess...

u dont need multiple vns u just need 1

all in all i think that was the cosmos trying to help u learn japanese

just pick 1 hentai game and go for it dude

>>21124020
>I don't like Sword Art Online.
Nuke has good taste.

>>21124193
F

>>21124200
Except if the VN you downloaded turns out to be shit and you hate reading it, you then have to wait several hours or days depending on how bad the situation is to download a new one.

>>21124178
i doh

>>21124200
u play one at a time but i support stocking up cuz some vn downloads are fleeting
>>21124203
how often do u fuck up

>>21124013
None of them. Don't waste your time.

>>21123734
i also want to do this, which are you watching?

dert boyz

>>21123734
Don't just do the comedies do the fucked up classic 恋人よ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjUCKHjtMV0
cute lead too

kohh sounds like a suburban nuclear family mom when he speaks BOYS

Is there a way to watch Japanese TV in Europe (Germany)?
Free sites suck, the online offers I found are way too expensive.

the answer is now the same as its been for like a decade

pay for some stupid chinese restreamer

>>21124407
learn to use replies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP8T8OdJlWc

It's time to put your reputation where your mouth is and debate the world's greatest learner of Japanese.

learn to suck my deeyock fagboy

im stuck in intermediate hell

>>21124433
give me a google account and ill ask him str8 up to just prove to every1 right then and there that he knows japanese

>>21124460
voice chat discord link in stream description
yo ntr u might be able to spit a couple lines before he bans u for showin him up

>>21124462
m8

Im reading a manga for the first time in jp and I really only understand like maybe 20% of what is being said with checking the grammar guide a bunch and trying to look up words only when I just dont understand anything in a sentence. Then when I read a page I read it in English to see how well I really got the meaning. Is this a good way of doing it or should I be looking up more words? Or should I just keep doing anki some more and wait until I can understand more words.

>>21124433
must suck to be a content creator whose livelihood is at odds with the message you put out
ajatters shouldn't spend precious time watching his eigode videos

>>21124473
keep reading bro the magic will start happening after only a few dozen hours reading

>>21124473
looking up words only when u understand nothing in a sentence is the opposite of what u want
it helps the most when that lookup makes u go oh thats what theyre sayin
u can skip it if ur pretty confident in ur guess but if u dont have a guess at all ur not gettin much from it

>>21124462
the life and times of yuuki reel was the real shit dude i remember bein sad all day back when that was a current anime i dont blame u

>>21124473
what are u readin?
try something yasashii like ryuu no kintama or dattebayo kid

>>21124433
where is the fkn quizmaster when we need him..

>>21124511
it fucking killed me dude, i cant hold it back when it's family death stuff. if i had siblings i'd probably go catatonic by the end of the last episode

>>21124526
its ok dude just remember japans fuckin horrible

>>21124526
watch "Departures" the live action jp movie its gr8

Does anyone have matt's newest Q&A?

more like q&gay

Im so fucking tired of hearing about stupid gay pitch accent shut up

stop making bad arguments against learning it then

virgin yomichan vs chad rikaikun

>>21124615
Sorry for the delay. Unfortunately this will probably be the last one I'll post here as I unsubscribed to his patreon recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=0BKlU_qkwzs
00:32 - Have you considered becoming a translator?
10:52 - Should I limit how many sentences I mine from a single source?
12:49 - Matt's current take on each of Krashen's 5 hypotheses
42:23 - How many water bottles do you go through in a day?
42:38 - How do I stay in the moment while listening?
46:24 - Overall Anki setup?
48:03 - How much reading is required to counteract not SRSing?
1:02:18 - Why is Japanese pitch accent harder than Mandarin tones?
1:21:08 - Matt's experience with pitch accent
1:31:25 - Did you film your April Fools video in one take?

i've given up on understanding why you guys care about this matt guy, it's beyond my comprehension

the last timestamp there is the best and funniest one also say it aint so no more weekly matt updates so sad to see u go

>>21124658
because he's a proven master

>>21124653
gambare with ur future nihongo career u have my support

CALVINS BACK

matt is dumb

>>21124666
dang dude most ppl in here werent even born yet that refs too old or did it make a resurgence somewhere recently

>>21124668
proof

chinese a best

>>21124668
what language
>>21124673
sorry to say that was from the heart i dont know what ur talkin about

>didn't know what the fucking て form of words meant in most cases ("and") until like 5 months in
KILL ME

sup djt
new dud here
who dis matt guy and why dos he hv hentai on the walls

bless calvins heart

>>21124699
its not hentai its manga comics like dragonballz.

>>21124651
what's the difference

>>21124699
it would actually be cooler if it was hentai

>>21124711
It's a bit faster and it registers the verb forms a bit better

Why does Calvin keep talking to Matt despite Matt constantly putting him down? He deserves better.

did he quit chinese or is he just asking about japanese purely out of curiosity

who had money on karbin goin back to nihongo its time to rake in

CARUBIN IS BACK FAITH IN HUMANITY RESTORED HOLY MOLLY

calvin is a fuckin mess

>>21124309
Good Morning Call
Itazura na Kiss Love in Tokyo 2013
i"s
Kimi wa Petto 2017
Denei Shoujo Video Girl Ai
Denei Shoujo Video Girl Mai
49
Hana Yori Dango
Switched
Okaasan Musume o Yamete Ii Desu ka
My Little Lover
Love and Hong Kong
Virgins! Back to High School
>>21124245

>>21124745
holy shit what the fuck is ur problem

>>21124193
>takes down my anki deck and everything else.
Nick lost his deck and still got good, he made up for it by 9001x his immersion while slowly building up his deck again

What are some examples of easy and entertaining stories to read on Aozora Bunko? It's nice to revisit some of the books I read as a kid, like Alice's Adventures in Wonderland or The Little Prince, but I'd like to go through something new too.

>>21124653
Matt pre-charges his patreons (ie you get charged as soon as you sub, unlike Khatz where he charges you on the next 1st of the month), so if he releases another Q&A within this month, you'll still have access to it even if you unsubbed today (because you already paid on the 1st of April, for the whole month of April).

Someone please post jamals hentai chart thanks

>>21124768

>>21124786
are u gonna step up sometime cuz ur tryin but ur missin

>>21124790
Nah if I put in any effort that would ruin the point, it's all to show how easy it is to ruin something and make people remember to ask for the original. Someone edited this almost-ok chart https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/cor/gazou/vn4.jpg and made it absolutely horrible and the modified version turned into the only one that got posted and I'm never gonna let that happen again.

i never realy had a problem with ne of ur edits honestly cuz even in the case of that 1 thats 2 games not on the chart and maybe som1 will want to play those and thats fine w. me

are there any VNs someone could recommend which aren't porn?

I wouldn't be able to handle it if someone played actual kusoge because I put it on there so that's something. It's just supposed to be visually appalling.

>>21124832
hanahira

>>21124803
there was already a lower effort ruined version that did a better job from the man himself
why are u holdin a grudge
>>21124832
no

>>21124852
I just want people to play good games, man.

someone please debate matt and show everyone that hes a dekinai

post screamo bangers

i had to think for a minute and then i went oh yea lol

>>21124832
all vns are porn

>>21124858
i got u dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NueceQ3u0A

>>21124781
I just wanted it on my phone too thanks

>>21124873
i dont wnana be on ur phone delete it now

>>21124866
itumo arigatou gochaimasu

>>21124861
maybe i should just play the ones for girls since i'm not gay so it isn't porn

>>21124875
Ok, i respect that

the one time matt offers to debate us, nobody shows up. 面白い

>>21124896
how do you debate him

>>21124903
go to the livestream on his channel and click on the discord link in the description

honestly i thought about it but when i saw the stream he actually has every1 muted and im not waiting in a queue if i cant just pop in and start goin all abare theres no point

>>21124914
the point is being able to debate him, you're just being a wuss

i dont debate in the 1st place i dictate

"khatz lied to you bro. he lied himself too"

>>21124896
If you're so desperate to get eceleb attention go ahead no ones stopping you.

Make your name interesting on the discord and he'll prioritize you.

>>21124876
btw heres 1 more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlvRhB_tKXk

彼女の家は川の向こう側にある。

遭難ですか

wowzers tfw u thought u were original and funny and u put it in google and its fuckin already been done : (

>>21124832
in the interest of >>21124856
now there are no excuses

Is there anything more useless than this?

彼女はいつも遭難します

>>21125039
u did a good job triggering me

do not read console cross channel just delete it off the chart altogether

>>21124957
Doesn't sound like little girls.

did calvin really go back to japanese ur fucking joking

>>21125050
tits on a bull ?

>>21125050

>>21125063
i think at this point we shouldnt say whether calvins studying japanese or chinese we should just say calvin is bein calvin

>>21125050
used up sluts

>>21125059
is that the worst offender i was gonna remove everything with a sfw version but had to make someone mad
if ur not readin eroge ur already fuckin up so i left em with choices

'ello what are we mad at today?

>>21125076
its prolly the worst offender but konakana ios def made the bulging anime forehead vein thing happen to me irl not cuz i know anything about it just the fact its ios

heres one for someone who could still be saved by the grace of eroge someday and doesnt want to ruin em

>ぽりぽりと片手で尻をかきながら（！）シスターは言った。

>尻をかき
??

>>21125089
ドランプ

What's a good alternative to tae kim's grammar guide?

>>21125122
掻く dude

cure dolly

>>21125131
immersing and acquiring grammar naturally

>>21125122
ぼりぼり

>>21125131
asking here

>>21125131
ass食べり

>>21125131
>genki

>>21125131
unironically sakubi (after reading https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/alternativeguide.html )

>>21125131
>What's a good alternative to tae kim's grammar guide?
>>21125135
>>21123667

>>21120438
Hes cute

>>21125179
why do you want an alternative when it has all the essential grammar explained pretty clearly. you're doing "grammar study" and getting frustrated when you don't remember rules or something, right?

test

wtf is up with thｅ kanji 甭, the chinks literally just put 不 (bu4) on top of 用 (yong4) and decided to start reading it as ［beng2］

get ur nakagunigo outta here

>>21125216
Stop using our written symbols first you island ape lover

>>21125239
chinks don't even use real kanji anymore lol they use the discount kanji

>>21125239
>our
they gave em up already for ugly "simplified" shit

>>21125239
It's not like Chinese characters are some brilliant invention. They're just an evolved form of the slant eyed people's common caveman ancestors' bone carvings and cave drawings.

>>21125250
>>21125256
The Japanese use 364 discount kanji (not even counting the extended shinjitai there). Only island chinks (Taiwanese) and river delta chinks (Hong Kongers) use real kanji
>>21125280
At least the slanties were able to preserve their writing system despite Mongols, Manchus, Huns, and yuros invading them several times, unlike the ancient Egyptians who lost them after 1 Arab invasion lmao

>>21125288
are u comparing shinjitai to chinas disaster

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2005/10/02/like/

finally i can stop fucking spending 5 minutes figuring out what nanka means in random spots of sentences.

>>21125280
I like that third version.

赤い！赤い！
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=038XbIVr69E

>望遠鏡
>bou-en-kyou
>mang-won-kyuhng
>wang4-yuan3-jing4
WOAH

>>21125302
Yes, there was literally no legit sane reason to simplify any of the shinjitai (especially 國　ａｎｄ　團）, all traditional kanji are easy as fuck after RTK