/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>mattvsjapan

What's DJT's opinion of humblebundle's japanese course thingy.

I'm too dumb to understand OP's chart.

u have enough materials to get u started with japanese

u just gotta do it now

guys i want to know

Should I memorize Kano before starting to learn Kanji?

Should I also ditch Romanji as soon as possible?

Graph paper for Kanji?

Ok, I'm posting it here again.
Hopefully people will get it to run.
This is an mpv plugin, which stream your subs to your webbrowser. This way you can look up shit while watching Japanese subbed stuff.
https://github.com/kaervin/subserv-mpv-plugin

Now I made a release version, which is basically already compiled.
https://github.com/kaervin/subserv-mpv-plugin/releases/download/release/subserv.so
This should work if you are running linux and your mpv isn't too old.
Just put it into your mpv scripts directory, then while watching your anime visit 127.0.0.1:8080 in your browser, and it should add the subs that appear in the video.

>paying to learn

How do you remember uncommon words without anki? I'd love finally get rid of this crutch and just read, but every time I tried it and stopped doing anki for half a year to a year I always forgot hundreds of words that I didn't meet often enough in text.

>>21099334
why do u make these posts

whats ur issue

>>21099316
you dont need to subscribe to anything but pdrsans youtube channel to learn japanese my dude ~N1+ kun

>>21099336
i can already do this with potplayer

>>21099336
can I use this with mpv through smplayer tho

>>21099302

>>21099248 >>/jp/thread/21092102#p21099248
>>21099282 >>/jp/thread/21092102#p21099282

干擾

>tfw winblows users get left in the dust again

犧牲奉獻

>>21099351
do you share these videos because you think they're the sum of his character or something even though he apologized and took them down after realizing how much it hurt george?

和田市は下胃

>>21099363
shut up cocksucker

>>21099363
How much does he pay you?

>>21099367
no
>>21099368
nothing and i've never paid him or been on his discord either

>>21099348
Yeah, potplayer is windows only, and the subs don't get streamed.
This way you can see all the history of subs and stuff.

>>21099349
No idea. I didn't even know what smplayer was before googling.

>>21099358
Windows can't use mpv plugins. Can't be helped.

ok pipe down fuckers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27

>>21099354
干擾　フィール　ザ　ラブ　ツーナイト？

>>21099392
i mean i don't like quiz poster any more than the next guy, but he has studied Japanese for 30 years and can't read a novel and i've heard clips of him speaking and it is nothing that impressive

yah jorge is just like a slightly worse version of me ｔｂｈ

Matt is a shill but jourge atleast has a shitty product he can try to sell

>>21099427
How can that even happen?
I have the feeling I suck at everything but vocab, and I don't even know much japanese.

>>21099375
>Windows can't use mpv plugins
>I didn't even know what smplayer was before googling

well I guess I wouldn't be able to use it either way then. man mpv is great at playback but it's gui is fucking awful, hence using smplayer which also isn't great but it's better than mpv's ui at least. the people working on that are retarded, they've got this great piece of software that nobody uses because the experience of actually using it like a regular program is fucking horrid

>>21099446
spending your life on anki making vocab cards

fresh meat is always good at this rate i was thinking some1 would just end up learning japanese instead LOL

>>21099447
my only problem with mpv is that for some reason it doesn't generate a playlist of all files in a directory after i load a file from a directory. and i'm pretty sure it's supposed to, or that it comes with an extension that enables that behavior by default or something. it's just never worked for me.

>>21099472
You have to drag ALL the files you want to play into mpv.
Thats just the way it is.

>>21099470
I'm pretty sure 'speaking to and understanding people speaking japanese' is the minimum requirement for japanese.

>>21099470
I don't know about audio, but example sentences are definitely a good practice.

>>21099513
as much as i agree i also have to ask pic related

>>21099513
I'm not a repulsive fag though.
When I was in japan for half a year, people seemed to like me. The only problem was that my japanese sucked donkey dicks.
Now I'm trying to fix that before I go there again for half a year.

>>21099520
but aren't planes scary

>>21099538
If they secretly hated me they have done a really great job at deceiving me, which might actually be one of the secret japanese hidden powers, but whatever.

>>21099534
They are alright, just annoying.
Most scary thing is being alone in a country where most people can't communicate with you.
But anyway, this shouldn't be part of this thread, so I'm not gonna write more about that

>>21099420
Thanks.

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>>21099447
>man mpv is great at playback but it's gui is fucking awful, hence using smplayer which also isn't great but it's better than mpv's ui at least.
keyboard > graphical buttons

it's just a matter of remembering which key does what, and once you do it's way quicker and more convenient. if you really, really can't deal with that and have to use your mouse for some reason though, i'm pretty sure there are graphical frontends out there for mpv.

Fckedup up rofl after fap numbness is the worst
https://youtu.be/awie_UCYe5Q

imagine testing peoples' skill in a language with an insane writing system on an aspect of literacy that natives have trouble with to the point that reading material for kids has glosses on anything remotely difficult and stuff for adults they just gloss over words that they don't know the correspondence between the kanji and spoken word for

instead of speaking or listening comprehension, the two things that, if you can't do them, you definitely don't know the language

>>21099716
in japan its not a big deal trust me

>>21099716
"saudia no koukai" wow that was hard to distinguish

>>21099727
You're delusional and your discord circlejerk is making it worse. Leave it.

>>21099737
nothing more delusional than convincing yourself natives can't read the language you're failing to learn

>>21099743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EMoi21_bsY&list=PLUdmv6RZkDtz8gcEXXi0h_JCgfspHLKy8&index=3

>>21099779
Sorry man, looks like you're delusional. Nitroplus is really just a normal company. They put out completely mainstream stuff like Steins;Gate. The fact that Muramasa is edgy and cool doesn't make it any less valid. Your perspective as a foreigner is pretty distorted.

>>21099779
there's no barrier between reading a word even if you don't know it in english like there is in japanese stop making comparisons between the two

>>21099779
are you saying that worthless virgins sitting at home fapping to eroge are higher educated and more knowledgeable about the language than a typical adult?

>>21099797
yes, i am. they literally just sit and read hentai games and shit that specifically use random vocab like that.
>>21099793
lol so you think they sell copies of their games if people cant read them?

>>21099803
ding ding ding ding WINNER
>>21099794
good post as well

>>21099838
>implying Japanese isn't a meme language

put your grasses on

there's no bwame there's no fame

>>21099800
Matt pre-read the bit he read through in his video though:
>Oh yea and I did read through the part that I read ahead of time; I didn't mean to give the impression that it was the very first time I had seen the text.

For all we know, on the unfilmed read-through he did, he looked up words he didn't know or had forgotten, and still remembered those words that he otherwise shouldn't have been able to read when the time came for him to do the filmed version, making his performance look better than it should've been.

I wish matt would post itt.

>>21099901
he doesn't talk to anyone for any less than a $100 subscription to his patreon (and even then you only get an hour a month)
sorry dude

100$? now that's cringey

yea seriously he should charge $200 i'd pay for that w/ my mom's credit card

id just pay for that with ur mom

>>21100056
You're insane. Either kill DJT outright or stop posting.

>>21100093
He wants people to play the kanji game with him. This is the only way he can make friends.

>>21100093
He thinks this thread is shit and wants everyone to know it.

>>21100129
if someone trespasses wouldn't you feel scared to say something to them

>>21100129
kudos, bro.
dont listen to anyone in here and do whatever makes you feel good and youll get there eventually

>>21100159
people say it but they are drowned out massively by people who pretend they are hot shit and shitpost at other people's japanese without ever doing anything to demonstrate that they actually know japanese themselves

>>21100165
Nobody who knows japanese needs /djt/.
Its a simple fact, since /djt/ is for people who don't know japanese.

>>21100181
if everyone ACTUALLY had this attitude the thread would be a lot better than it is. instead everyone quietly insinuates that nobody knows japanese except themselves.

Didn't think I would see people so desperate to excel at something they would go to forums made for noobs and challenge these people in order to feel mighty.

>>21100199
Everyone knows DJT is full of beginners. That's why you have things like vocaroo posting and "You don't know Japanese". The problem was never proving that DJT is full of beginners. The problem is getting beginners to stop posting advice and arguing about learning methods. And what you guys are doing isn't going to make that any better. In fact it's only going to make things worse. At least vocaroo posting made people shut up temporarily. You guys just make the thread fill up with garbage.

>>21100213
you straight up think everyone you don’t like is “meditation tranny”, you’re a moron, but you already know that. don’t (You) me again.

>>21100219
https://vocaroo.com/i/s11PEEfnUjfz

>>21100154
>>21100056
>>21100184
>>21099803
https://vocaroo.com/

>>21100141
All i gotta do is ask to see their badge and why they're here. If I don't get an answer I write a report and make some phone calls. I'm not allowed to do anything else.

>>21100220
levels of value in this thread, in order of most valuable to least valuable:

japanese memes and screenshots of interesting stuff in japanese
japanese reading/listening recs
japanese music
japanese questions
literally anything else
your crappy un-funny shitposting

>>21100223
except im always right that its you im replying to

>>21100257
i can't i just wanted to post that and see how you responded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3yb8fccdkc

>>21100254
no you’re not, moron. now go suck some tranny cock and don’t (You) me again.

>>21100290
>that are not immediately obvious with a google search
only if you a) suck at googling or b) have a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is you want to know, like when people start asking about particle combinations out of context entirely

>>21100290
This guy is right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5JuuRM-D2M
Lucas is officially on genki's payroll, fuck that sell out

>>21100056
If you haven't noticed, pretty much every e-celeb is hated here. They're shittalked, not "worshipped like idols" (the only exception I can think of is Steve).

Lurk more before making any more dumb posts like this.

and the people who "like" ecelebs do it ironically (like me)

>>21100350
I thought you said you were going to leed us and you haven't so much as linked a banger yet..

>>21100398
nobody fucking cares dude. being the japanese-learning-themed version of kiwifarms is being obsessed with internet celebrities just as much as people who unironically jerk them off. it's all shit.

what the fuck is a random のも can u eat it

>>21100437
meme invented my Matt and his donors
however you do need to listen to get a good accent

小日本！！！

>>21100437
meme

>>21100637
she sounds like an old, english lady, obviously with a filter on her voice i guess in an effort to disguise that fact and make her sound younger or something

dunno why she doesn't just use boiro or something since it sounds weird as fuck and probably puts a lot of people off watching her videos

imagine how much more popular she could be if she sounded like this instead
https://youtu.be/rqv9s9lmDCw?t=652

>>21100670
Depends. Some people are better when they are focusing on one thing, other people need to balance between several things to prevent themselves from getting burnt out on any of them. I can't answer because I don't know you personally

>>21100689
idk dude have u seen dollys recent content

the only shit that shits popular w. is the bin lol

>>21100670
A certain someone went down that path and came out despising the language in the end. Don't be like that person.

shut up flashtard

Damn I'll try to slow down and pace myself a bit more thanks guys

>>21100730
>matt came to hate japanese
why does his life still revolve around it if he hates it

>>21100717
>What kind of cards do you propose one does?
I don't get this sentence

>You learned a significant amount of Japanese with those cards? If so join the quiz chat.
Why should I take a test?

>>21100749
because he realized he could make money off it:
https://youtu.be/wqqHz85L0-E

watch his ajatt journey video. he openly talks about hating japanese and tells people they shouldn't learn it.

>>21100772
I will not go out of my way and enter a potential anxious situation just to please someone I don't even know.

>>21100804
He said on a podcast (first yogamatt episode iirc) that he didn't like translation work and that most normal language learners will hate it.

of course he doesnt like translation work

>>21100821
this is what happens when you listen to japanese cartoons during english class

shut up flashtard

>>21100844
try reading something, fail, quit japanese

i wonder, shouldn't reading english translations before reading japanese make the japanese more comprehensible?

>>21100844
I'm sure someone can edit this image to make it better.

>>21100855
I'm fucking dead lmao

>>21100872
>>21100846

what do i read though

>>21100871
yeah, it's recommended to start with something you are already familiar with so you know when you are obviously interpreting something wrong.

>>21100827
how long have you been getting off to showing someone you're better than them in some regard and talking down to them afterwards? how much do you do this in real life? is it 1:0 ? I doubt you can answer this, or at least completely honestly.

>>21100871
it helps a lot especially in the beginning

>>21100920
If yotsuba is bad then what should a beginner read?

>>21100927
Hanahira
>>21100939
I tried reading that, but I couldn't keep my hands off my pants while going through it.

>>21101199
Have you tried the 404 girl's comic or 3tsuboshi Colors?

>>21101113
nice. we need more variety though.

>>21101147
of course I am. How else would i retain 2200 kanji in just 22 days.

What would you guys recommend for listening practice?
Honestly I'm not familiar with anything outside anime, and that's nothing like "real" speech where people slur and speech normally instead of slowly and cleanly.

Is there a good TV channel to watch? I have no idea what's worth watching on Japanese TV. Or would it be better to download a whole bunch of episodes of some variety show, instead of watching a TV stream? I literally don't know anything besides gaki no tsukai.

It's such a weird feeling when you remember some song or anime opening theme that you heard 10 years ago so many times that it got etched into your memory, and then you suddenly realize that you can understand the lyrics that you did not understand at all when you memorized it. And then the meaningless sounds suddenly start making sense.

>>21099334
>Graph paper for Kanji?
Letter paper size.

>>21099334
>Graph paper for Kanji?
A4 paper size.

>>21101009
At least the thread now has one tripfag senpai. 難しい時期だった

quick question lads: can muscular, elite chinaboos visit this thread to flex and dab on the kanjilets?

>>21101485
something like "towards him".
に対する is a set phrase, btw

>>21101492
>chinese
Ewwwww

>>21101497
>喜欢日本鬼子的
lmoa

>>21101495
How would you translate it literally?

>>21101504
t. bug

>>21101429
>>21101434
What is the font called in this one?

>>21101193
I tried to read Hanachirasu but the damn game don't work right. Maybe it's a Windows 10 thing.

>>21101517
The specific typeface is Adobe Kai. The type of script (which imo more resembles real-world handwriting than the more standard Ming-derived typefaces like Mingliu) is a "Kai" script (楷書 or 楷书; 楷書体 in Japanese).

>>21101530
thanks

>>21101245
ナイス

So is Anki + core deck still useful or do you guys hate that now too?

>>21101569
for me, it's taking a HSK review course and giving the middle finger to japan and taiwan

>>21101336
>When I was first learning I listened to a lot of seiyuu radio shows
i love those
i recommend わたモテラジオ search on youtube yall

>>21101630
Please show evidence that VNcore contains a significant amount of relevant words that C6K doesn't.

>>21101387
Nice!

>>21101652
めのうえについてる

たくあんください

>>21101654
same, just have to stick with it から

just took a HSK level 1 practice test after not having had a formal classroom lesson of chinese since 2006. was allocated a full hour, took about 10 minutes, and got 100%. feeling muscular and based lads.

>Chinese
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

imagine taking japanese without having taken chinese lads

you probably think kanji is SUCH a grind too lmoa

I'm sorry if I'm asking an obviously answered question but is there a quick list of all the casual grammar forms that are used in Yotsubato?

I'm struggling to find the resources I need to find out what they're trying to say precisely because I can't find the right resource in the first place so I'm spending more time searching for grammar than I am being able to learn the grammar and read the manga.

>>21101770
Go away Tencent

>>21101789
There's an anki deck I think

>>21101770
If you learn Chinese you are probably gay

>>21101789
There isn't a huge difference between grammar and vocab sometimes so this may be what you need. It's free you know.

http://livingjapanese.com/pages/yotsubato_reading_pack1.html

>>21101828
余臭

It's day 21 of VN Core for me and I am on the final stretch of my first pass, 15 to go!

>>21101829
I have been checking the vocabulary list as I go it's just got nothing to do with grammar as far as I can tell. Like ちゃった being a casual version of しまう in the past tense [that expresses some kind of regret or shock] wasn't obvious at all to me and I had trouble even figuring out that's what it was to read about it in the first place.

i played smash for 3 hours instead of reading. it was fun, but now i feel bad.

>>21101837
good shit learn japanese and escape this hell hole

>>21101651
what do you plan on reading? newspapers, or LNs/VNs/manga?

>>21101843
search up スマブラ on google and read whatever comes up

>>21101847
>reiwa 1
>actually reading pre-reiwa """entertainment materials"""
>not contributing to one of the world's greatest economies through skilled labor and sexual reproduction

>kansaiben is best ben
>kansaiben speaking girl is best girl
>don't understand half of what she's saying
life is suffering

>>21101843
I get where you're coming from but I think you should try to avoid thinking of it like that. Don't think of learning Japanese as a job but something you do for fun.

>>21101863
huh?? the vncore deck was taken from most frequent words in LNs and VNs and the regular core was taken from newspapers. so which do you care about reading? it’s up to you

>>21101864
no I haven't even finished reading Tae Kim, I wanted to hop into Yotsubato today though because I felt like I was procrastinating actually reading too much (almost a 2k core vocab) and thought I could just reference the grammar points I didn't already know as I went but I guess it's not that simple when it's all slanged up to shit.

I think I will try that then. I think I ignored its existence in the first place because of its unfortunate use of ローマ字.

>>21101872
>the vncore deck was taken from most frequent words in LNs and VNs
VN Core 1250 is only taken from VNs, you're thinking of V2K, a completely unrelated deck.

>>21101872
You still haven't established that there is a significant difference between the two.

>>21101839
There's a limited number of these, and they usually come up if you google them in proper ascii "quotes". Senpai will know them all soon enough.

>>21101878
oops you’re right, do that one

>>21101877
honestly japanese the manga way is wayyy better than tae kim, and it starts from the very basics too like だ and です so you won’t be missing anything

Quick question. I'm wondering how is the で particle being used in this exchange.
「今何を?」
「トレーニングで自転車を」
Is it being used to show reason as in "I'm biking because of training"?

英語はとても難しい

>>21101913
Yes.

Core 2k/6k has a bunch of super ultra common words like 気分, 任せる, and 付き合う buried past the first 2000 words instead of in the first few hundred.

It's also outright missing some extremely common words like 以外, 感触, and 視線.

These are all words that anyone who uses Japanese is going to encounter pretty much constantly. They're probably top-thousand words in almost anything you could look at, and they're just random examples.

Core 2k/6k also has a bunch of words that probably shouldn't be in a shared deck since you'd want to drop shared decks and start mining before you have to deal with them, like 蛋白質, ワープロ, 猿, 大蔵省, etc.

The version of core 2k/6k that people use also starts out really, really bad. It starts out with a bunch of numbers and then the days of the week. That's just bad.

Core 2k/6k does, of course, mostly overlap with any frequency deck you can think of, because it does indeed mostly contain common words, and it's only missing a few percent of what it should contain. Easy to pick up naturally, not a big deal.

But that's not the whole picture.

The strength of a shared deck is in how quickly it brings you up to speed so you can start mining. When you say "but you're supposed to finish the deck!", that's just dumb.

>>21101913
That's the context particle, so yeah think of it is "because of" or "by way of"

>>21101945
>The version of core 2k/6k that people use also starts out really, really bad. It starts out with a bunch of numbers and then the days of the week. That's just bad.
I almost dropped Anki because of this deck, luckily I found a good one. It only goes up to 2k though.

>>21101935
>>21101949
Thanks

>>21101945
>以外
picked this one up from lurkin djt, lads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsYYwElc0Ug

何お願いしてるの

Whats wrong with learning numbers and days of the week as one of the first things?

>>21101973
It's insanely tedious, it makes you lose interest immediately. At least that was the case for me.

>>21101945
>and they're just random examples
You can't just list three words and pretend that there's a HUGE SYSTEMATIC ISSUE.

>>21102007
よかった

>>21101945
I think most people stop core2k/6k well before the 6k point. Only the most unthinking people that would never learn anyways would continue pressing on much further than even 2k, if that. (as their sole method of study I mean)

>>21102007
しゅみしゅこうは

こじんこじんということで

found this gem at book off just now, can’t wait to get home and play it!

>>21102080
What the hell is this?

>>21100437
>crippling
Your reading will be much better than your listening. But before you started reading you could neither read nor listen so how should your listening be worse after you can now read?

The only thing that can happen is that you get overreliant on subtitles for a lot of stuff and will default to them if theyre available. But there's an easy fix for this. Just switch them off when you're practicing listening.

>>21102080
cute

>>21101837
My review stats after finishing up. I don't know if 33 hours is considered high for 1250 cards, but that also includes the time of me writing out enough of the vocab words to fill 20 double-sided pages. Approximately 4 cards ended up being leeches but I lie to Anki and don't let them get buried.

The VN Core deck consisted of 810 unique Kanji, which I have created a custom set for in the Kanji Study app. Fun fact: 24 N5 Kanji and 50 N4 Kanji are not seen once in the VN Core.

Next thing I am going to do is go through the Mary/Takeshi conversations plus grammar explanations of Genki 1/2 while doing daily reviews in Anki/Kanji Study. Then I will watch Your Lie in April without subs, and finally I will go read White Album 2 and look up grammar in DoJG as I go as well as creating a mining deck.

Thanks for reading and that's the end of my blog.

>>21102157
sorry if it's a stupid question, but what are leeches?

>>21102277
If you fuck up a card too often Anki takes it out of rotation and tells you to sit down and study it in a different way because this shit obviously ain't working.

>>21102281
Ahh, thanks.

>>21102087
lucky star you noob, it’s only the mother of moe anime
>>21102110
thanks d(￣ ￣)

あいむ

ですぱれいと

>おまんこをびしょびしょにしたい
>おまんこはびしょびしょにしたい
どっちの方がいい？
僕はさ日本語を分かっね

>>21102314
i don't think you would use びしょびしょ for a まんこ

>>21102317
i don't know many onomatopoeia, what would you use?

>>21102320
imagine not running an onomatopoeia deck on the regular

Is it possible to memorize stroke order without mnemonics?

>>21102326
Just write them. After a few tens of thousands of written characters you'll begin to feel the flow.

>>21102324
i dunno go watch some hentai and see what they would say but i've only seen びしょびしょ for some kind of surface that has had water sprinkled on it

>>21102326
yes, learn to write the radicals. from there it's mostly 99% obvious the order you should follow for compound characters like Kanji

>>21102326
there are mnemonics for stroke order???

i honestly just memorize through practice and knowing that every character is built up of several discrete components that i know the internal stroke order of

but i studied chinese sooooo...

>>21102334
this. also realize that there are situations where even native writers might use a slightly different stroke order than what you might think of as canonical

>>21101945
> The version of Core 2k/6k that people use is terrible for that. The ordering got fucked up by Nukemarine to make it work as a kanji study reinforcement deck instead of a frequency deck. That's just bad.

I grouped them by first 400 then 1600 then 2000 then 2000 for Core's group before sorting them by kanji (based on 2001.Kanji.Odyssey index). Yes, it's bad. However, the entirety of Core 2k/6k is pretty bad, including their dictionary order which is worse than my kanji sort. The JLPT Tango decks improve on Core in most ways except they don't use Anime voice actors for the native audio so it's a moot point now anyway.

>>21102326
I just learned as I went through VN Core and only fuck up the order maybe 3-5% or so of the time by the time I got to the end.

>>21101157
Not that anon, but do you have an actual argument as to why the suggestion would be a bad idea? I really don't see the problem.

>>21100885
>I average 4 seconds per card in Anki.
>Creating one card takes 15 seconds.

>>21101945
>Core 2k/6k has a bunch of super ultra common words like 気分, 任せる, and 付き合う buried past the first 2000 words instead of in the first few hundred.
>It's also outright missing some extremely common words like 以外, 感触, and 視線.
That's because Core contains newspaper core vocabulary rather than true core vocabulary, as Dolly says here: >>21100582

>>21102482
preaching to the choir

>>21102333
this is the least titillating explanation for bisyobisyo ive ever seen lmfao

>>21102471
What's incorrect about it? Apart from 4 seconds being kinda too much

>>21102521
Have you seen his cards?

And 4 seconds is more than "kinda too much". He has sentences, pictures and audio on all his cards. Unless he just ignores all that shit and immediately skips to the next card as soon as he confirms he answered correctly (making all the extra shit on his cards completely pointless and a waste of time), there is no way he spends anything like 4 seconds per card.

>>21102536
he's already talked about this shit like 20million times. the sentence and audio are for new or failed cards only.


here's the video of him making the cards

http://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FqnkRuFtsqX4

it's basically 10 seconds to do everything and then +however many seconds to record an audio clip

げえむする

ばーんってなってどーんってなるやつ

>>21102593
象です

>>21102576
>it's basically 10 seconds
You just showed in the video it takes 18 seconds. Why do you tell such blatant lies?

Other things:
1. This is with a simple word which only has one definition. He isn't showing a multi-definition word, which would take him longer.
2. He doesn't show himself inserting a custom tip like he puts on his other cards.
3. This is him rushing on video to make himself look as fast as possible, and he still couldn't hit the 15 seconds he claimed. Under normal conditions when he's not trying to show off he's without a doubt slower, especially once you factor in all the mistakes he no doubt makes and has to correct (which doubtless increas in frequency as the fatigue sets in from making so many cards in such a tedious process).

Turn your trip back on and stop pretending to be a lowercase poster. It's pathetic.

>>21102614
>You just showed in the video it takes 18 seconds. Why do you tell such blatant lies?
> then +however many seconds to record an audio clip
can u read? he has to record the audio clip so hes basically just waiting for that to finish which adds however many seconds to the making of the cards. 10+audio time = card time

holy shit stfu flashtards

fuck kanji

>the virgin kanji
>the chad hanzi

does no 1 have nething 2 say about this ?? >>21100436

一生懸命頑張ったのに・・

>>21102659
disgusting

>>21101009
>People who need advice beyond what is in the guide won't make it anyway.
So remind me again why you're giving advice here?

Fuck off, tripflashtard.

So I can read visual novels and light novels and understand them well, just mining words now and then.

How come I feel like I don't know japanese though?

i mean do u ? go thru a sample passage for us or smth

>>21102708
Have you ever spoken to a Japanese person?

>>21102727
I mean i regularly have pretty long conversations with Japanese people at obviously a lower level than my native language but not in a way that is painful for me or my partner. I think a lot of it is just doing a lot of listening, TV shows are better for this than anime since they also give you something to talk about. I mean a lot of people here probably couldn't hold a conversation in English with a normie so they have no chance in Japanese.

>>21102708
please translate some text for us to prove it, heres a sample for you

u just gotta talk with ppl more dude thats the only way

also ur gonna get told ur 上手い till u die

>>21102742
I mean yea probably, it is kind of a meme that once you get good for real people stop saying it. Although if you can actually hold a conversation then you get it less since i think a lot of the time Japanese people say it to just fill space in the conversation.

>>21102642
This

>>21102726
はい~
ココロコネットは僕の初めて小説ですけどあまりいい小説ではありません。魅力は懐かしいかもしれないです。

>>21102757
damn hope this is a troll

>>21102757
lmao

ｌｍふぁお

this wouldnt be complete without the

>>21102757
あっ、日本語は本当に上手ですね！

Why do I try guys

its all good vibes here no worries

thx for the lol

So should I do back to basics then and try and fix my writing?

>>21102817
thats what I'm doing now.. I'm 500 kanji into doing the 3k kanji and this time I'm writing them doing rtk.. so far I think it was the best decision. I'm getting a much deeper understanding of the kanji this time and the added bonus of being able to write them. It's not much harder so it really is the best method.

Is Matt fluent in Mandarin?

dont try to do anything but have fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QSb6t4YdeM

>>21102856
why is the merchant trying to destroy japan like they did with the west?

Why do you think lel

>>21102817
your problem isnt to do with writing. you dont understand or know japanese. if you did you'd be able to tell what you were writing is garbage. go back to basics and watch 10k hours of japanese anime with english subs

>>21102865
maybe japan just needs to loosen up and let some ppl come stomp around the house without taking their shoes off first lol

>>21102881
or not saying itadakimasu before eating

>>21102886
while also walking down the street

I'm not doing ajatt because thats fucking retarded haha but if i was which anki deck would be best to do alongside it

>>21102913
core 6k until you realize mining is better susited for anki

or anki is better suited for mining

>>21102757
How long have you been learning Japanese? I mean i don't want to shit on you but that isn't really a natural or even grammatically correct response. I think in response to your original question there is a difference being able to read and being able to output properly, normally the output comes well after you are already able to understand most of Japanese because it takes time for the structures to get absorbed into your brain so that if you do something wrong you know because it just sounds wrong.

everyone was havin a good time and laughin not givin a fuck and then this guy came and didnt read the kuki before posting >>21102928

>>21102949
lmao forgive me for talking about learning Japanese in the DJT. I'll let you all get back to shitting on ecelebs and talking about how big your flashcards are

Why are you all learning Japanese? I've been considering going back to it, but there are only a handful of visual novels I want to read. Anything beyond that is a crapshoot of whether I'll find anything worthwhile. Most Japanese media I run across feels worthless to me, but the few things I do like, I like more than anything that exists in my own language.

>>21102991
>few things I do like, I like more than anything that exists in my own language
Imagine how many things there are that you would like if you were able to read them.

>>21102991
95% of everything is garbage you gotta ganbare for the rare gems.
Btw only the popular stuff get's translated, the niche stuff you might really really like never ge t the light of day

>>21102991
desu i didnt like 99% of japanese media before i started learning japanese (i was like calvin and just learned for the sake of it and switched between chinese and japanese at first).

but since i learned enough to read shit i actually find it enjoyable. japanese shit becomes a lot more lifeless or cringy when its translated into english. the opposite is true as well, ive watched japanese subbed english TV on netflix and they just lose like 60% of what makes a show good

>>21102991
because I can, you probably can't so don't try because its a lot of time

>>21103004
But do those things actually exist? I certainly hope so. But I suppose taking a gamble is better than doing nothing and just worrying about whether the investment is worth it.
>>21103013
>I don't know why asking other people's motivation would help you.
I was really just asking that as a pretext for blogposting.

>>21102293
I know its lucky star, I just have never heard of a LS game.
What do you even do in it?

>>21103052
Looks like it's a VN.
https://vndb.org/v387

Link me jp linking park plz

>>21102080
the worst thing is when u learn japanese u come to understand how atrocious these type of games are lol

>>21103104
haha i got what u need

singer is even dead now too :'( RIP

read comments for lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSyV_ICgkNM

>>21103111
I've never played one but I always thought they looked like shovelware.

>>21103104
oh but if u want ppl that actually just plagarize linkin park look no further than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbAAZaP0ik#t=10

>>21103123
yah as is the case with any popular franchise they just make as much stupid shit for it as possible and no doubt that game is no different u can tell just from the cover lol

>>21103121
>no rapping
I am disappoint

>>21103121
ありがとございます

>>21103135
i linked specifically 4 the comments relating to linkin park

Do any of y'all have any experience with visiting Japan during Golden Week and what's the best place to stay and weather the Japanese tourist onslaught during that time?

>>21102991
Do you have anything better to do with your time? Otherwise you might as well. Why not? Drop if you think you should.

>>21103013
Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) is listed in the DSM-5 under Disruptive, impulse-control, and conduct disorders and defined as "a pattern of angry/irritable mood, argumentative/defiant behavior, or vindictiveness" in children and adolescents. Symptoms include:

1. Often loses temper
2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed
3. Is often angry and resentful
4. Often argues with authority figures or for children and adolescents, with adults
5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
6. Often deliberately annoys others
7. Often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past 6 months.

i think im only gonna post emo bangers from now on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3jrjA4-6UY

I don't understand how people are able to skip learning kanji and just go straight into vocab. I attempted that and it was far too difficult to distinguish between kanji.

>>21103178
>emo
>bangers
pick one

i mean u will just suck ass really bad at reading but its fun knowing what word is there even tho u cant read it yet which will happen often but obviously not even close to a majority of the time

then if u stick with it for a while and utilize ur epic kanji dictionary ull basically be mostly good in pretty short order if u read for some amount every day

>>21103190
i dont think it really matters too much what you do as long as you keep going, you basically just do what ever you're comfortable with while still progressing

>>21103215
emo can and does bang sorry dude

literally any genre can bang even yodeling

even classical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92OBNsQgxU

my posting theme btw

>>21103224
I mean, I'm not complaining. If someone is able to do that, that's great. I just don't get how they're able to accurately maintain the distinctions between kanji in their mind, without having studied kanji specifically in some substantial way.

>>21103190
I did like 1800 cards with some terrible premade deck before giving up on that stupid shit

>>21103224
if ur not exposing urself 2 lots of native japanese content that is mostly comprehensible then it really does matter what u do cuz thats the only thing thats gonna really make u better

everything else comes much easier after ur 10000 hours of eng subbed anime i promise

>>21103166
>leaving your house
リア充 begone

>>21101651
https://pastebin.com/NSThTYVZ
it's only 248. but comparing 6k words to 1250 isn't really fair. compare vncore to the first 1250 words of core2k, or just to core2k.

>>21101837
woah this dude finished vncore in 21 days and i still haven't finished it after 6 months

u can finish vncore right now

shut up flashtard

>>21103190
I didn't distinguish between some kanji. At first. Now I do. Learning works like that.

is audio that vital to being on your anki card or will hearing it in random shows you're watching gonna be good enough

Man I fucking love my support job. Basically get to do anki and read NHK all day while making 30 USD/hr.

>>21102659
I liked it anon

if ur not playing hentai games at work ur small time

>>21103689
Man. My original goal was to do programming projects but fucken corporate IT makes it impossible for me to install/download anything onto my work computer. Ended up having to learn nihongo as a result.

well at least hopefully u can play the hentai games at home and enjoy them

>>21103190
The key is, like was the answer to an earlier complaint about kanji stroke order, learning to "dissect" kanji into their constituent parts. Kanji are generally one of two things: A basic set of strokes that is often used as a radical in other characters, or a more complex character that itself has a radical and a non-radical component.

Often the non-radical component of the more complex character is itself a complex character. This is a huge issue in Chinese, and I assume in the more advanced or obscure kanji sets as well. But, by recognizing that those characters can be recursively disassembled into radicals and non-radical parts, you can eventually disassemble an entire character into a collection of radicals (and the occasional sets of strokes that are never used as radicals but are basic stroke sets).

Another way you boost your ability to differentiate is by looking to contextual clues, and that requires you to get good at comprehension rather than pure character recognition. At least with standard speech where the writer isn't trying to trip you up with weird kanji, you can often tell you misread a character, such as by the part of speech the underlying word usually serves, or the other kanji or inflection that typically appears around that word.

>>21101374
it's not so much remembering, but the sheer amount of time it takes to review.
If you do 100 cards a day, you'll have an average of 350 reviews a day if you study the deck for 70 days. That's 70 days you're in rtk hell. For like a week you'll have 700 reviews. at 20 seconds per review that's like 4 hours anki.
That's assuming your retention is 85%, if you have less retention your reviews are going to be much worse.

Can anyone help me make sense of this sentence?
部屋の荷物を捨ててみると、部屋のあちこちに時間が止まってた場所があって
ゴミ袋がびっくりするくらい積みあがりました。

Basically what I think I get is that the person looked into throwing out the rooms stuff,
the 'time stopped' in some places here and there in the room,
the trashbags were surprising in the way they were piling up.

For example, What I don't really get is what the くらい is doing there

>>21103768
There's no way those numbers are correct. I did RTK in 60 days and my reviews never got higher than 225. There's no way you'll reach an average of 350 over 70 days unless your retention is garbage.
If retention rate is unaffected your average shouldn't change over the long term. You'll just front load most of those over those first three weeks.

>>21100129
good luck lmao, you're gonna need it

i did rtk1 in 42 days, i'm on rtk3 right now

i started with about 40 a day, moved to 50 after a few days, ended up with 63 a day for the last 10 days, so about 52 kanji a day on average

granted i did core2k simultaneously for the first 25 days (i finished it in 25 days), but now after almost 20 days of reviewing it, it's only taking 3-5 minutes to do the daily core2k reps

are you doing it the proper way, i.e. going from keyword and writing down the kanji for each rep?

>>21103822
びっくりするくらい is 1 thing

>>21103838
And what does it mean in this context?

astonishingly

What's the male version of わ sentence ending?

>>21103853
I understand that more or less, but I kind of want to know the grammatical function of the kurai.
Do you know of any more examples of this construct?

>>21103849
Something is to a certain extend that it surprises someone.

わ

>>21103868
idk what a grammatical function is

its like ほど except ほど doesnt properly convey the amount of astonish going on here so くらい

also there maybe be a grammatical reason but im not a fuckin nerd so i cant explain the why to u sorry

>>21103867
I mean boy (male) not girl (male)

>>21103893
oh in that case わ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOw2UPtPUyw#t=95

>>21103873
not him but i appreciate this actually because くらい often trips me up. so sometimes i can just think of it as just a strengthening/emphatic word. i know in other cases it can mean "so long as/to the extent that" or "approximately".

>>21103868
watch more anime you tard

>>21103827
you're right, that's average reps per day, reviews are closer to 200 a day average with a over 370 reviews a day in the third week.
still if you average 20 seconds per rep (which is every time you see a card) you're still studying for a very long time a day. I guess it is possible, but requires neet levels of anki time.

>>21103827
I did RTK1 in 42 days and i had 233 reviews on day 43

>>21103864
ぜ

desu

It's a 百も承知な fact that jamal is the king of dJt.

Give me a better core vocab deck than 2k/6k. I don't care about audio. Needs at least 1k words. No bullshit like numbers at the beginning.

>>21104080
疑い

>>21103864
men use わ too stop just blindly trusting your dictionary or grammar guide, i remember characters that use 俺様 to refer to themselves using わ, including rance

>>21104086
read the thread?

stop uptalking?

no way?

>>21104096
Yeah and I remember characters that used でござる. Males stopped using わ like a hundred years ago, meanings change.

>>21104086
Who needs numbers they're for nerds right?

>>21104105
Tell me which posts and I'll read them. It's over 500 at this point.

>>21104114
just go read any modern vn and you'll see some male characters using わ, it ain't a feminine particle, redpill yourself on it. it really ain't the case of rance being medieval fantasy

>>21104117
it's a lot more important to know ある than the day of the week.

>>21104126
If you can list 2000 words that are more important to know than the numbers 1-10 be my guest.

>>21104126
He will simply have to deal with having his first 5 days of learning Japanese having minor ordering inefficiencies.

>>21104151
take most words from a deck like vncore and exclude any words relating to numbers and they'll be more important than numbers 1-10. mind you i don't think you should neglect numbers since they're pretty easy to remember. but it's silly to pretend they're more important than most words in vncore.

>>21104173
same with numbers, days, and every other word in existence lol

>>21104181
i mean i didn't have to anki ある nor the numbers to learn them but i def learned ある way before i had a decent grasp on numbers

>>21104151
In real life, numbers are very important so you know how to buy 2 apples instead of 10.
In our context when reading LNs, manga and VNs, numbers aren't important at all, they are just flavour.

For example in a sentence like "General, five enemy mechas closing in fast" every word has higher priority than the word "five". It makes almost no difference if it's 3, 5 of 10, all you need to know is that you will need to fight multiple enemies. The other words, however, are far more important so that you know who is being addressed, what's happening, etc.

So yes, a custom deck where things like numbers, months, days of the week and so on are at the end of the several thousands of cards would be optimal for us.

>>21104192
because it was way more important which backs up my point. if you wanna argue you should read more then i don't disagree.

>>21104207
i'm saying it's shit you're gonna learn very very easily without using an anki deck, you'll learn it if you do super basic grammar which you probably will and should before reading anyway

>>21104086
vncore

>>21104096
except you can trust the dictionary. only one definition is 女性語. people just dont even read the dictionary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWLK9hu6gII absolute madman

>>21104114
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1554311736476.webm

ゐ ゑ
Why do these things still exist? Are they used in proper nouns or something?

>>21104283
ゑびす
てゐ

i still didn't try to apply that dude's color scheme to qolibri because using a color picker and fucking with the template would be a huge pain in the ass but i saved the image

>>21104274
I can't understand a single word of that.

>>21104086
your own mining deck

>>21104274
Someone please edit this and add a few dB so I can hear what he says.

then are general and fast also flavour?

>>21102471
this meme is perfect and good arthur rocks

Y'all niggas oughta take a look at this deck:
https://core6000.neocities.org/freq/

>>21104283
>Are they used in proper nouns or something?
I've seen ゐる 居る twice now.

>>21104213
except some counters (やっつ、ここのつ etc), those aren't easy without some kind of resource since they're different from the regular number readings

>>21104114
i've heard young japanese men in real life use wa

>>21104340
i think numbers in general in core decks are fine, stuff like ある and です are not. core vocab decks should not replace reading a grammar guide, numbers do belong there though

>>21104080
only to those of you who always need someone to worship for some reason

>>21104089

>>21104389
That's the look of a man desperately trying to contain his American accent.

is there a wrong way to read?

i've been trying to read some books but even after looking up all the words i still only understand like 50% of what's going on. i dunno what i should do instead since stuff that's specifically aimed at learners is too easy again

how much have you guys spent on learning japanese
me: about 130$ over 2 years

>>21104406
I pirated most stuff so far but I started to give back recently: about 200$ over 2 years by now.

>>21104406
Whatever the tuition and book costs for 26 credit hours was at my university in the mid-2000s.

>>21104406
It's fine to spend money on entertainment, but there's no need to waste money on stuff you can get for free (like bilingual dictionaries, lists of common words, or grammar books).

>>21104400
read for 1000 hours before you start worrying

>>21104406
$0 over 7 months

What's the optimal "New Interval" setting in Anki?

The default 0% setting seems pretty stupid to me. It doesn't make any sense to go all the way back to square one on a several month old card because of one single failure.

>>21104452

>>21104474
oh so that's what that fucking setting does. i'm gonna jack that shit up to 50% then.

ガチと書いて本気と読む

so uh, what's this expression supposed to mean

>>21104490
Not that person, but I think you should keep on reading, unless you stop understanding the text altogether. If you get the gist of what's going on, you're going to be fine and it's going to get better with practice

i can't wait to move out of beginnerdom so i can destroy this tripfag just you wait bro i'm gonna catch up and surpass you soon

>>21104490
You really can't be expected to understand 100% of the language from the start. Read it, take an honest stab at figuring out what it means. If you can't, move on.
At some point you'll either get it on your own or you'll see the offending structure so often that you look up an explanation.

>>21104509
そう来なくっちゃ

>>21104519
>>21104502
You are motivating us noobs to ganbaru more so I welcome your stay.

>>21104519
i just have to make way better flashcards just you fuckin wait mine are gonna have short clips instead of pictures

>>21104504
ガチと書いて本気と読む擬似戦闘を繰り広げていた
full sentence, I guess he's just expressing that it's really serious, for a mock battle?

>>21104529
enjoy your 1tb anki deck

>>21104539
With a good codec you could probably create clips as small as 500KB and 20k cards times 500kb is only 10GB

>>21104544
>I don't know why you think I have bad intentions.
Because you're an antagonistic tripfag attentionwhore.