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shut up flashtard

わたしはゲくない

Not actually a shitpost, but does ゲイ apply to girls too? Like, jisho says it's especially for guys, what would a girl say then? わたしはレズビアン?

>>21092141
just レズ is enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27<div class="like-perk-cnt"><div style="text-align:right"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/verified.png"></div></div>

got no replies so repostin
The layman: what is up homosexual
Me, a JET: 睥睨

Reminder to not trust anything Jamal says. Has has been repeatedly exposed to know no Japanese, not have read any of the works he claims to and him frantically running around from the chance to prove he can read some Japanese is nothing but laughable at this point.
>>21091530
>>21091594

>>21092236
>Has has been repeatedly exposed to know no Japanese, not have read any of the works he claims to
proofs?<span class="fortune" style="color:#f51c6a">

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again[/spoiler]

異性 = good
同性 = gtfo

>>21092191
>bushy
kek

Just do this if you want to read in 3 months and don't give a single shit about having a permanently crippled gayjin Japanese accent
http://yixiangblog.com/japanese/

In step one, you will learn the basics about Japanese. And by basics, I mean everything except remember 10,000 words.

You’ll be reading one book which, different from typical language textbooks that say too little in too many pages, will explain everything about Japanese grammars to you, even the slangs.

In step two, you will memorize the kana, which is like alphabet but a bit different.

In step three, you’ll start memorizing the grammars you’ve read in step one with the help of SRS.

After several weeks, you’ll be surprised at how you absorbed all this information so easily, and so fast.

In step four, you’ll start swallowing vocabularies, thousands of them.

Expect to spend at least 2 hours every day to fill your head with hundreds of new Japanese words. Your head will hurt. But hang in there.

In step five, you’ll start reading, a lot.

>Reward: can read in 3 months
>Punishment: permanently crippled gayjin Japanese accent

>>21092236
the only thing frantic atm is u riding my dick home boy lol

jamal, how many points u at?

i got fuckin hella points now boyyyy help me get some more

manga isn't reading

>>21092332
this guys native chinese so he didnt have to worry about kanji at all lol

>>21092236
Jamal knows Japanese. Being a stupid shitposter doesn't make him any worse, you're just mean. Stop freaking out and go read porn or something.

貴方の適当な態度や喧嘩は「邪魔流（てへぺろ）」よりも面倒いからやめなさい。彼は少なくともマット教と戦っている。陰があれば陽もある、このガキにも。

nah dont tell him that i want him to make more posts like this >>21091594 and dance like the muppet he is

>話したい
>話したいことがある
>話したいことがあるんだ
>話したいことがあるんだけど
What a silly language.

>>21092443
You are a good person, but I don't see why you would let yourself get fooled by Jamal.

ok flashtard ill bite lets pretend i dont know the difference between a chopstick and a bridge

what does it matter to anyone

I'm saying you can't read Japanese bitch.

ok lets pretend i cant tell ツ from シ

what does it matter to anyone

>>21092480
>I wanna talk
>There's something I wanna talk about
>I'd like to talk about something
>"wow what a shit language"
this is what you're doing, you're gay and retarded

>>21091680
Hey, that's me! It's still ten days too early for my "Five year update" post which I was vaguely planning to do.

In retrospect I was probably underestimating myself a lot there, but in any case, I've spent a huge chunk of the past year listening to Japanese in various forms. Jikkyou, voiceroid, v-tubers, anime, ASMR, h-audio, etc. I've honestly probably spent more time listening than reading this year just cause it's so easy to get into a 20 episode boiro/jikkyou/whatever series and watch the whole thing in one go. I really wanted to buckle down on listening to stop sucking at it and I'm pretty sure I've succeeded, I can watch basically anything and get reasonably complete comprehension. I don't sweat watching anime without subtitles or that kind of thing. I think one important thing to remember with listening is that it's totally fine and normal to "not catch" part of a sentence or something. I work for a Japanese company (translator btw) and my 100% Japanese boss in Japan occasionally transcribes voice clips into text documents for me to work on, and often he's just like "yeah I can't tell what this part is saying I'll contact the client". This kind of sounds like an excuse but really the point is that listening often requires one to be fluid and "fill in the gaps" of incomprehensible speech, which is pretty advanced. To be truly good at listening you have to be able to hear nothing, and still know what the speaker said, if you know what I mean. If you're not good enough at Japanese to produce the language the speaker is saying, you'll have a hard time, since you won't be able to fill in the gaps. Putting off listening learning didn't really backfire in the longrun for me (I think) since all the reading practice enabled me to have the level of competency required to produce misheard language.

My favourite boiro series is this one btw, Aoi is super cute in it and fangames are kami: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27365150 . As for Jikkyou I'm watching this series right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eJrTo94G6g , the player has a really good voice and I like his personality. Vtuber wise my friends are pretty into Gamebu so I've gotten into watching a lot of their stuff too: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2ZVDmnoZAOdLt7kI7Uaqog They have a really cool dynamic where there's 4 separate vtubers in this game club, and like, if you have a favourite character you can check out their individual channels. Despite the name they have a lot of videos that are just crazy comedy skits, I like it. One of the few vtuber channels still putting out consistently high quality videos instead of just livestreams of random shit (though those can be good too). I actually have disliked almost every H-audio I have ever listened to, I dunno the fellatio sounds and shit are just an earsore and if they devolve into sex the screeching just kills it. However my favourite is this one https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ221853.html just cause the imoutos are kawaii and the single voice actor does a good job of voicing two different characters. I don't actually listen to the porn parts of this audio, I just play the 10 minute intro on loop where they're talking normally. It's kind of weird and maybe obsessive but it's therapeutic. I've actually listened to it so much I'm playing it word for word in my head right now. ASMR kind of suffers from the same problem as H-audio in that so much of it is just random noises without much talking but I try to deal with it. I've been watching boob ladies lately, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0nrx99W7JI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS7cjkUzymE etc.

Anyway yeah. I might write a more elaborate post for my 5 Year Anniversary of learning Japanese, maybe not. Really you don't make much progress at the 4-5 year marks. It's just an inexorable march onwards to from competency to native-like competency. Personally speaking, I don't know the rate others grow, but I kind of get the feeling it'll be another 3-5 or so years (8~10 total) until I reach True Native Competency, if not more. Osmosis is pretty slow when you already know 99% of what you encounter. Every time I see a word I've never seen before, it's like, welp I guess I won't see you again for 5 more years, cause somehow I managed to interact with Japanese daily for 5 solid years and never saw it once. There's not really much I can do to improve my production, I already talk to Japanese people at work and read Japanese, so I just gotta sit back and wait for osmosis and time to magically enable me to speak more elaborate sentences without effort. Anyway I really rambled at the end there, have some good shit

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31371781
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbNycyGQrscpF1TD9xJ8Gig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yVz0_DC-P0

>>21092443
>Being a stupid shitposter doesn't make him any worse
wow

>>21092528
i didnt know the 4th 1 translated to "wow what a shit language" but i lolled at ur post i hope it was intentional ftw

>>21092535
oh wow someone asks about some random post from a year ago and the poster magically happens to be reading the thread and gives an update.

haven't seen that before.

>>21092539
upvoted

>>21092535
holy SHIt did NOt FucKin Read<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/trash@2x.gif"></div>

>>21092443
>邪魔流
There's supposed to be a star in this after the 魔 to act as a ghetto syllable lengthener but 4chan deleted it because it thought it was an emoji. Oh well!

>>21092482
DJTは滅びなかったら、意見は異なるであろう。だがこの世界線にはこの悪さえも必要だ。犯罪者であれども。騙すことなどあるまい。

>>21092537
Almost everyone who still posts to DJT in 2019 is a stupid shitposter, it's not much of a thing.

>>21092543
My friend W*r*y* is always here and links me whenever someone mentions me. I've said this before.

>>21092535
you could have just made your post without this elaborate introductory bullshit where you pretend to link someone elses post

>>21092547
dude u cant even use arrows anymore 4channel is the worst everything since the switchover has been terrible

>>21092551
But I was replying to him! What kind of reply doesn't link to the person it's a reply to? Not any reply I want to be a part of.

guys give me more upvotes i need to unlock more of this shit<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F3F4;</div>

>>21092563
im saying you made the post you were replying to in order to make an excuse for your own post that noone gives a fuck about. your feigned ignorance at what i meant only proves it further

>>21092563
>But I was replying to him! What kind of reply doesn't link to the person it's a reply to? Not any reply I want to be a part of.
like 90% of the replies here lol

>tfw it takes me ~40 minutes to watch a slice of life anime with japanese subs if I want to understand anything
kill me

>>21092566
why would u even talk to him just take solace in the fact he wrote a giant fuckin wall of shit no one is EVer going to read

>>21092566
And you're wrong. There's nothing more to say on the matter. I know better than to try and convince someone on 4chan that samefagging didn't happen. It's impossible. Therefore, I don't bother. Drown in your fantasies and die.
>>21092567
I don't approve of such degeneracy. It's lame on 2chan and it's lame here. I think it's a reflection of a more passive culture that avoids confrontation. Real men are brave enough to link to the post they're replying to. Please recognize the insincerity of this message

I can understand everything people post here in "Japanese", thereby proving that nobody here does in fact know Japanese.

>>21092596
I once tried to check if anyone in DJT could transcribe thirty seconds of vocal music in thirty minutes and everyone failed across the board.

This thread is more or less a shitposting blog and I don't see why the staff even allow it to exist.

>>21092596
That's funny because my """Japanese""" is cobbled together from copy-pasting real Japanese in ways that retains its grammaticality and meaning, sometimes leaving entire sentences intact because I happen to know that they're exactly what I want to say, so you're just saying that real Japanese is fake and wrong.

>>21092605
Uh I was there and I participated and succeeded at transcribing it my man. It was also supposed to be a translating thing, not transcription, though I did both and just ran out of time to translate the last stanza or two. Don't embellish the past.

>>21092607
that sounds like a pain in the ass why not just learn japanese instead

>>21092615
I did mean to say "translation," so my bad there.

Everyone still failed, or at most one person succeeded, because not a single two person's translations resembled each other's. Maybe you're the one single person who got it right.

>>21092620
I know Japanese, I just do this to feel smug and superior when people say that my Japanese is wrong (as it eliminates any chance of an obscure word choice error).

>>21092564
そのキュートアンドセクシー君にlikeを<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F49B;</div>

>>21092605
sorry no one jumped at ur request to do work ppl get paid for for free lol

>>21092627
thats just really weird like ur communicating thru magazine clippings hella 80s and 90s kinda shit

>>21092626
>because not a single two person's translations resembled each other's
This is just how lyrical translation works. It's impossible to create a musical lyrical translation that doesn't distort the original. Go compare the most popular translation of the popular version of Bad Apple to the original lyrics for an example.

>>21092627
Just because you can stitch clauses together doesn't mean that the resulting sentence is correct or the resulting series of sentences is logically coherent.

>>21092627
sounds like some bullshit

>>21092637
It's really convenient that any task that could be used to demonstrate that anyone actually knows Japanese is blown away with "lol nobody's going to do that."

>>21092639
The shit translation from Bad Apple pulled off the Wikia ages ago largely resembles kafkafuura's translation from 2017.

>>21092647
Your argument just boils down to "my Japanese is correct because I'm good at Japanese and know how to stitch Japanese sentences together correctly," which is no different from "my Japanese is correct because it's correct." I used to stitch together sentences from the Tanaka Corpus. Japanese people still laughed at me.

>>21092668
I'm doing the Pimsleur audiobook course while also doing Core 2k AND RTK because why the fuck not.

spoiler alert

japanese ppl are ALWAYS going to laugh at u

better just accept it now instead of walk on eggshells all timid forever like a fuckin retard

>>21092675
shut up flashtard

>>21092697
then relish in it baby

>>21092705
彼氏は寝ていて、TAIKUTU

>>21092705
わたしはゲイじゃないけど男の娘が大好き

>>21092671
>The shit translation from Bad Apple pulled off the Wikia ages ago
No idea what you're talking about my man. Did the "and it all would fade to black" translation originate on the wikia? Because I can't find it there anymore.

>kafkafuura's translation from 2017
Translating broken sentence fragments in-order and dropping a conditional that is vital to the meaning of the very last line in the song?

If you're trying to object to the notion that lyrics can't be translated faithfully while retaining their musicality that's absolutely hysterical btw.

>>21092675
他の方法があるなら、日本語で話しては言わないようだから却下。

>>21092729
i only read like 2 volumes and i got bored but i dont remember the art being that good altho the style was obviously similar

>>21092729
some page from the same issue

>>21092736
>日本語で話しては言わない

>>21092757
Oh, I know what you were *trying* to say, friend.

is this the thing where u guys are gonna flash step behind each other for like 20 posts before some1 just gets bored and quits lol

Bonus points for explaining it in Japanese btw.

Like this post if you know how to read 広義?

>>21092736
>Translating broken sentence fragments in-order and dropping a conditional that is vital to the meaning of the very last line
The conditional is baked into the if statement. "If I am to defeat my enemies, I will attack their supply lines" is still a conditional statement.

>If you're trying
When did I imply this? I was pointing out that the translations issued in the thread were even less similar than the ones between the two translations of Bad Apple.

also like this post if you can read this: 狭量悪辣卑劣外道佞人奸物畜獣駄六愚昧蒙昧暗迷妄者小人曲物低俗堕落亡八輩の護摩の灰

>>21092794
am i allowed to like your post if i read it correctly but mistook it for 講義?

There's a VERY simple test for anyone in this thread knowing Japanese: pick some nontrivial English text from anywhere, that hasn't been translated into Japanese, translate it into Japanese (a paragraph should be plenty), and let the people in this thread pick it apart. And because you picked the text, nobody will get to whine about translation begging or various other retarded excuses.

Nobody will do it though, because it's much easier to make hundreds of shitposts insinuating you know Japanese.

>>21092813
Yes.

>>21092830
>>21092832
I don't claim to be any good at Japanese.

If you're also fine with acknowledging that you're also shit at Japanese, then we can all be shit together. But there are a whole lot of people in this thread who insist they are not.

You should be able to solve this.

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>>21092855
why did you respond to the same post twice lmao once without your trip and once with it

>>21092861
ベニス様よ。貴方様は野球が好みものだという噂がありますが…

>>21092846
>You can understand a Japanese text entirely and still produce a shit English translation, have you ever actually tried to translate a Japanese text?
One can still tell the difference between a Japanese-to-English translation that is bad because it is hard to translate and reads poorly, and a translation that is shit because the translator doesn't know Japanese.

>>21092859
About 80% of their skillset is shared. The final 20% is being able to rewrite things from bad English into good English but hopefully everyone here is capable of doing that at least somewhat.

>>21092891
間違いは何でしょうか。教えてください

>>21092881
Have you ever translated a proper Japanese Text like an academic paper into English?

>>21092920
you've been awfully angry lately dude, everything good?

>>21092918
>a proper Japanese Text like an academic paper
Don't go there, academic language is easier to translate than the casual and literary stuff.
>>21092923
アナタの好みは実にならん

>>21092943
your life doesn't necessarily have to be bad as a whole for you to feel these feelings of anger, hope you get the help you need godbless

>>21092932
so that is a no then?

>>21092938
>なにで
lol wtf

People who shit on other people's Japanese without pointing out where it is wrong are indistinguishable from people shitting on other people's Japanese for no reason (to people who don't know Japanese, anyway, which is this entire thread.)

>>21092918
No. And, because I have not, and am fairly sure I cannot, you can all safely say that I don't know Japanese.

>>21092938
lol using a bunch of stuff you think is complicated incorrectly isn't being good at Japanese

>>21092986
お好きだと then

Cure Dolly:Japanese is the simplest, most logical, the most easily understandable language I have ever encountered—much easier than western languages.
Matt: I think Japanese is just an inherently fucked-up language that is, like, super hard.
Who should I trust?

>>21093021
nah were still fully embargd but i cant let yall starve

>>21093001
still not quite right, but close enough. here's your like.

the correct answer was:
>ベニス様は野球がお好きだと伺っておりますが

>>21093058
yikes!

there are many warriors in the quiz now. come watch the spectacle.

>>21093032
If mutt hasn't learned any other western languages (idk if he has or not) he doesn't have a baseline to compare japanese to since you can't gauge the difficulty of learning a language you're a native speaker of.

behold flashtards

>>21093032
I like this wisdom:
>"The importance of confidence becomes even clearer when we take a look at the difference between competence and confidence.
>Competence: The ability to do something.
>Confidence: Your belief about your competence."

That was from khatz. Matt's outlook is so fucking cancer. Ignore anything outside of helpful tips because that dude can't even watch anime anymore or anything japanese. He went for over a year without any japanese at all because his methods ruined the culture for himself. His brain relates it to torture now. Be like dolly who is positive, japanese is easy but it takes time.

>>21093164
Indeed, it is the low bar. If you can't do that you can do nothing.

>>21093110
>>21093105
Vocab is not the be-all and end-all of Japanese knowledge, and in fact no test tests perfectly for knowledge, whether it's J-E translation, E-J translation, J construction, or vocab.

They all measure Japanese knowledge with SOME fidelity, though, and if you dodge every single possible test that could be conducted in the thread in a reasonable timeframe propose one yourself or just admit that you're indistinguishable from someone who doesn't know any Japanese.

>>21093155
same, it's not the same skill at all

>>21093192
you don't know japanese

>>21093005
are you mentally ill or something

>>21093184
If you want to demonstrate your fluency in Japanese (the ability to speak or write a foreign language easily and accurately), then DO IT. Either translate a paragraph into Japanese or construct one from scratch to demonstrate said fluency (and not one that's just "watash wa gei" over and over again.)

Vocab tests aren't perfect, but they're better than no test at all, which is the standard that some people in this thread seem intent on pushing.

>>21093201
never claimed otherwise, but i know english and my native language very well

>>21093224
We're not, right now, talking about the best way to get better at Japanese. We're currently trying to assess whether any given individual in this thread (or literally any individual at all) is capable of fluently reading or writing Japanese.

New Japanese era name:
令和
Japanese: れいわ rei-wa
Korean: 영화 yeong-hwa
Chinese: ㄌㄧㄥˋㄏㄜˊ ling4-huh2

>>21093302
Attempting to shit on people who claim expertise they don't have is the lifeblood of 4chan.

>>21093314
I've never said a single word shitting on Matt because I don't know how good he is at Japanese, and don't plan to sit through hours of talking head videos to find out.

If he wants to take a rigorous examination of Japanese ability that puts a number on his skill I'd be happy to look at it.

>>21093211
>Sorry people think it was you asking yourself.
It happens. I shouldn't have replied to them.

Just remain strong of heart knowing that anyone can be a success story if they keep at it for five years like I did. As much as you can call me a success anyway.
>>21093265
Yeah, my first two years I spent a lot of time on Anki and DJT. Leaving both of those behind to focus purely on consuming media was what spurred the most significant growth I have experienced. I'm not sure if those 2 years of Anki were necessary in the long run or not but I'm glad that shifting away from it was the right choice to make.

is what yukipo saying in the 3rd block "for one month"?

>>21093359
Yes.

>>21093357
I'm not even through the first year of studying, but I've already minimized SRS time by a lot and just try to use the language as much as possible.

Gonna see how much time I can dedicate to this in the long run, at this point I might be overdoing it, considering I have other responsibilities as well, but I want to be comfortable enough so just come back to it naturally even if its just for an hour or two per day and not fall off the wagon.

MIA over
AJATT
Try to just
Trudge through it

>>21093396
That's news to me, AFAIK people criticized him for not taking any of the exams. It's nice that he is in fact decent at Japanese after having it made it his full time job for years. That's great. I still don't see why we should pay any more attention to him than any number of other Japanese individuals or buy his kool-aid.

>>21093418
>who even cares like why cant we just learn and support eachother
About 99% of every single thread is composed of either shitting on people in the thread or people not in the thread.

>so are people obsessed with "calling out" those fake experts, you're both two sides of the same egoic coin
One set of these gratuitously and inaccurately shits on people and spreads disinformation, and one doesn't. Your false equivalence between people who sell bullshit and people who call out bullshit is retarded.

Anyone focusing on LEARNING Japanese is asking a question about the Japanese language, answering a question about the Japanese language, or not in this thread. That's 5% of this thread at best. Ever.

>>21093458
>Not everyone lurks 4chan and sees these threads
Okay, but those people not lurking 4chan are not in /jp/ and not in this thread. If you want to do flashcards (the efficacy of flashcards aside), there's literally nothing wrong with Wanikani. For people who don't know that Anki exists it will probably boost their learning while they're still in vocab acquisition stage. It's not going to stop people from making fun of Wanikani here.

As for "common sense," I'm pretty sure generic and universal advice is kana, then grammar, than flashcards or consumption or both, repeat until you know Japanese. At it's core it is just not very fucking hard and everything sold on top of this is pointless tribal shitposting over shit that doesn't matter.

>>21093211
>>21093357
god this is so sad

>>21093448
i get where you're coming from but what i dont get is why you can't just accept that this thread is more of a chat room than a learning resource. i come here after im done with japanese for the day to unwind and shitpost a bit. and most of the thread is just shitposting as opposed to malicious misinformation. the /int/ thread is probably more your speed.

>>21093485
i mean it isn't quite as simple as that like if you just learnt all of the grammar points and what they mean up to lets say N2 or even N1 desu and then did a C6k vocab deck, you wouldn't be fluent in Japanese. If this shit is so simple then why on earth do most people who try to learn Japanese never actually get to a high level? I am all in favour of people making fun of wanikani, when did i suggest that people should use it?

>>21093500
>that this thread is more of a chat room than a learning resource.
/jp/ shouldn't have chatrooms. You can fuck off to some other board if you just want to have shitposting-themed chats with your friends. The very fact that it's been transformed into a shitposting chatroom has rendered it completely useless as a learning resource (which it used to be, in /a/, once upon a time.)

>and most of the thread is just shitposting as opposed to malicious misinformation.
Shitposting is retarded and encourages people to do retarded things.

>>21093511
You can't stop people from shitting on people, but you CAN try to make verify that the people who are shitting on people either 1. actually know what they're talking about, or 2. are explaining why the thing that was wrong was wrong.

>they should be called out but not in some piss-contest way
Every single time anyone writes ANY sentence in Japanese they are shit on in a piss-contest way. This is the norm. It is never going anywhere. If it is going to be the norm it's still better to force people to put up or shut up about it.

>you're forgetting the 3rd possibility of idk encouragement and posting about one's progress?? or even a 4th of sharing japanese memes and media or 5th posting interesting vocab/sentence finds just to share??
Sure. You can do that too. Nobody does this. Hell I wouldn't share any media I actually liked with this thread because the response to it would be 90% shitposting. Media I actually like I talk about elsewhere.

>>21093512
>i mean it isn't quite as simple as that like if you just learnt all of the grammar points and what they mean up to lets say N2 or even N1 desu and then did a C6k vocab deck, you wouldn't be fluent in Japanese.
I said "flashcards or consumption," which means that at the same time you're doing flashcards - or not doing flashcards! they're optional! - you should also be consuming Japanese media in audio or text form.

>I am all in favour of people making fun of wanikani, when did i suggest that people should use it?
It was an analogy. Wanikani could be considered a "good entry point" for something people might only "find after stumbling around the internet for a year or 2." So what?

>>21093553
We can, however, point out consistently and repeatedly that you've never done anything to show that you actually know Japanese.

i hope the flashtard understands my level is far higher than his

>>21093612
Have you ever done anything to show it?

>>21093634
no why?

>>21093542
>It was an analogy. Wanikani could be considered a "good entry point" for something people might only "find after stumbling around the internet for a year or 2." So what?
Except it isn't whereas matt gives summaries on how the exact process works rather than providing a set of flashcards. They really aren't equivalent

>>21093314
>>21093396
>>21093458
Fuck off and stop shilling that piss bottle autist. No one here is jealous of someone who lives with his mom.

like this if あなたはゲイ

>>21093830
Does it have the ability to save a list so I can go to anki and make cards?

>>21093881
Are you sponsored by Jeff Bezos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yUMg40W6ug

>>21094027
i only read, virtually never listen, but i correctly identified the pitch accent pattern for 女王蜂 when i played the audio for it in yomichan.

r8 my japanese:
日本語を学ぶの理由は？
日本語を学ぶのは理由が？
日本語を学ぶのは何故？

>>21094085
If tails, that coin flip didn't count.<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Heads</b></div>

>>21094090
>日本語を学ぶの理由は？
you don't need the の

>日本語を学ぶのは理由が？
>日本語を学ぶのは何故？
these are nonsense<div class="like-perk-cnt"><div style="text-align:right"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/verified.png"></div></div>

死ねばいいのに　死ねばいいのに　皆死んじゃえばいいのに

>>21094104
t. 日本語学べないやつ

honto ha ne
watasi mo sinitai dawa

>>21094129
白人

when 聞く is getting flung back and forth or pops up a few times in narration it makes me want to punt my fucking monitor out the window because i don't know if people are talking about someone asking something or hearing something.

音楽を聴く

>>21094188
Actually the first time they said it it was 効く and the second time they meant 利く.

聞く
聴く
訊く

if i get 10 likes i'll tell u

nopin outta that vid already

ah who am i kidding gonna watch anyway for additional lols

>>21094253
>僕は
stopped listening here, don't want to catch the ゲイ

lol does he think hes good enough to do an april fools joke vid

>>21094253
>>21094258
Nobody gives a fuck. Stop shilling. This is a thread about learning Japanese, not cancerous e-celebs and meta-content.

>>21094267
とっても超ゲイ

>>21094273
Look flashtard. You're gonna have to learn to accept that not everyone wants to post about the cool new cards they've made from the anime they're watching. Now I'm not gonna shit on you for posting that sort of stuff even though it's irrelevant to learning Japanese (because nobody sane would copy what you do) but I'm going to ask you to do the same for me.

>177 views
>already one dislike
which one of you fuckers was it?

Thank you for the disco*d invite. I took part in the quiz and lost big time. Now I know more than ever before that my goal should be to study harder and learn all the kanji.

>>21094303
>I'm going to ask you to do the same for me.
It'd actually be much better overall if you took the time to shit on him and he took the time to shit on you.

>>21094294
So it's closer to the former meaning. Thanks. Just wanted a quick idea of how to translate it because I've come across it like 4 times today but after looking up うえ I had no idea how it affected 覚悟.

>>21094332
ask him about >>21094090

what a piece of shit. dude's just trying to have some fun and you just shit all over it.

>>21094090
You don't use の when you're modifying a noun with a verb
会った場所 - the place X met
使っているパソコン - the computer X is using
読む本 - the book X will read

No disrespect, but you need more input. And probably chill with the output for now. Just my advice.

What's the difference between RTK and procrastination?<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

>>21094253
lmaoo

>>21094375
procrastination is fun<div class="like-perk-cnt"><marquee direction="left" width="250" height="50" behavior="alternate"><marquee direction="down" height="50" behavior="alternate">&#x1F3C0;</marquee></marquee></div>

吾輩は猫である<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F431;</div>

Rolled 15 (1d100)

if 1 or 100 i stop shitposting and go learn japanese

>>21094418
not saying they're wrong, or to say that they are in fact being at least somewhat dishonest, but, especially with Japanese people, you have to be skeptical about how honest they're being when they say stuff like that.

>>21094434
if 15, kill yourself

>>21094090
>>21094345

>>21094437
I trained him to be harsh, or at least I want to believe that.

>>21094451
he gave "80% cause it expressed the meaning". imo it's much more important for something to be natural. what he wrote is actually weird as fuck (because of the reasons he gay and more) but a jap is never gonna admit that cause anything that sounds okay is amazing to them.

>>21094477
Don't be shy
>>21094483
Yeah, I agree. Natural Japanese that doesn't convey anything is more important that somewhat unnatural Japanese that conveys the idea fine.

>>21094492
i don't feel like taking it right now but i'm pretty sure i'd cream you on that test.

>>21094492
Your image reminded me that I still haven't mustered the courage to try reading the LOGH LN.
How hard is it really? Much harder than say Baldr Sky?

>>21094492
Man, you're pathetic. Write something to show to him or shut up.

>>21094505
this man has never read baldr sky (or any VN), or any LN. he's a fraud and cant answer that.

>>21094492
I really don't think you appreciate what a fine benchmark "understandable but a little awkward" is. Well, try not to kill yourself when people can still recognize you as a gaijin on the spot in 5 years.

>>21094455
>[日本語を学ぶのは何故？] が一番自然
This means I can into Japanese right?

>>21094579
Yeah I don't see the issue. Is this gonna be one of those "another thing coming" memes? If so I'm out.

>>21094598
no im saying he gave him a score of 80 out of 100. can you even read? im saying he deserves a score of like 50 for simply managing to express the meaning in the most unnatural possible way that makes him look retarded

>>21094594
>Yeah I don't see the issue.
That's because you're a fat and dumb American.

what i mean is the weighting for meaning in his grading rubric is far too high

>"what did we learn today /djt/?"
>"that outputting before you actually get good at Japanese is dame"
>"good. now do your anki reps for the day if you haven't already"

>>21094610
I'm not fat or dumb, but even if I was, what would it have to do with anything? It's not like I'd be driveling down my shirt.

>>21094607
Wrong.
>for simply managing to express the meaning in the most unnatural possible way that makes him look retarded
You don't know Japanese. His corrections are minor, like the comma.

>>21094670
>This thread is for discussing how to learn Japanese
No it's not. All sensible questions are answered in the guide. Beyond the basics it comes down to reading and listening a lot. This thread is for peripheral activities, which includes watching masters of the language who make great youtube videos.

>>21094684
>I'm not interested in how dumb Americans misspell dribble as drivel since you never used the word "drivel" in the first place.

>>21094618
>driveling down my shirt.

>>21094463
Japanese people are so racist, insecure, and full of shit.

>>21094706
Put it into the OP next time and see how far it gets you.

>>21094706
Intentionally being delusional to justify your shitposting isn't going to work.

>>21094711
It might get deleted by a mod, but mods don't determine the purpose of these threads. It's how people use them.
>>21094712
How is it delusional? That's literally what people use these threads for.

I have to say, Jamal, if you're listening: I'm sorry for ever saying mean things about you. Your posting style and spamming of rap videos really got on my nerves but honestly now that 卑猥女子団団長 is truly shitting up the place, I realize you were never that bad. Despite everything, you had a positive attitude, and beneath all the irony, you did have everyone's best interests in mind.

Meanwhile 卑猥女子団団長 is just a smug asshole who's actually bullying people like a nasty high schooler. I don't even know. How is this discord bullshit real? I can't believe it. Jamal kind of painted the thread with a more casual shitposty tone rather than the lengthy academic debates and blogposts of the past, but 卑猥女子団団長 is just encouraging a really hostile environment where people bully each other's Japanese and get defensive/offensive over the slightest thing. Hot damn. Again, how is this discord bullshit real?

Whenever I visited the thread I found myself waxing nostalgic for the pre-Jamal past, but right now I'm just really really hoping 卑猥女子団団長 fucks off and never comes back. DJT is now truly unbearable with his presence and I feel really bad for any beginners who will join the thread when it's this hostile and immature.

who is this dweeb who can't shut up about howwonderful jamal is while shitting on other shitposters? is he the most ironic shitposter in the thread?

>>21094730
昨日、近所のDJT行ったんです。DJT。
そしたらなんか人がめちゃくちゃいっぱいで座れないんです。
で、よく見たらなんか垂れ幕下がってて、１５０円引き、とか書いてあるんです。
もうね、アホかと。馬鹿かと。
お前らな、１５０円引き如きで普段来てないDJTに来てんじゃねーよ、ボケが。
１５０円だよ、１５０円。
なんか親子連れとかもいるし。一家４人でDJTか。おめでてーな。
よーしパパ特盛頼んじゃうぞー、とか言ってるの。もう見てらんない。
お前らな、１５０円やるからその席空けろと。
DJTってのはな、もっと殺伐としてるべきなんだよ。

>>21094730
Hitting like on this because people are finally starting to see the light and understand that Uncle Jamal was the good guys all along.

>>21094740
wow classic meme

>>21094730
>卑猥女子団団長 is just encouraging a really hostile environment where people bully each other's Japanese and get defensive/offensive over the slightest thing.
Excellent. Nothing bad can come of the people who shit on everything being forced to put up or shut up.

>>21094730
Figured out what's going on here: trip-kun hasn't gotten a like on any of his posts all thread long. No wonder he's lashing out... He just needs friends here. He's giving out his discord as a "challenge" to others, but really he just wants someone to talk to, right? It's okay, danchou... It's okay...

>>21094759
I know the person who wrote the post you're responding to.

He has nothing to do with this conversation. At all.

>>21094759
stfu lol

>>21094759
>It's not my fault you guys are 揃いも揃って inadequate losers
See? Jamal shitposted and memed but at least he didn't act like a petty high school bully. Hot damn. Well, here's to hoping you fuck off sooner rather than later, or at least grow up a little.

people who obsess over high vocab level tend to have n4 or lower level grammar skills, scientists have proven this.

>>21094797
Vocab skill is one imperfect measure of Japanese skill. There are others. Nobody ever proposes one, of course, or else they'd have to test themselves instead of just shitposting about how vocab isn't everything.

Finding a dekiru itt: 机上の空論

>>21094759
pointlet<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F438;</div>

>feeling better about yourself from putting each others down
Literally a bully. And all this over some arbitrary kanji reading test, too. Absolutely ridiculous. Bizzaro DJT.

>>21094811
would love to see this dude try to comprehend a single page of kino desu

>>21094817
>look everyone! i'm the best at this test that i personally designed based on what i know!<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F602;</div>

共産党
What effect is 共 supposed to have here?

>>21094828
Yes yes we all know production doesn't mean shit and vocab doesn't mean shit and reading comprehension is king, but until someone proposes a way to actually measure people's reading comprehension instead of "take my word for it I'm real good at Japanese" the alternative is nothing at all.

>>21094846
i didn't take your test because i'm not a discord tranny<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x274C;</div>

>>21094846
dude i've been learning japanese for 6 months and all i do is read at most 2 hours a day. stop comparing yourself to me and leave me alone...

>>21094253
lol was this his april fools joke?

>>21094897
nah dude he was completely 100% serious u stupid ass motherfufkc!ER

>>21094897
no, that's just how he sounds when he's not reading from a script after doing multiple takes.
https://youtu.be/HXzrkX3apOk?t=356

>>21094138
あいしてる

>>21094859
> i'm not a discord tranny
post thighs or i'm calling bullshit

>>21094253
He cleared up the lisp at least. He sounds much more like his english self.

>>21094718
It's delusional because it's not the purpose of the thread. Only a few shitposters use them that way.

>>21094947
no thighs but get a load of my points

>>21093850
but not for your eyes :(

>>21094730
lol hey dude i will return ur positive vibes thx 4 that

also why sweat that dude just take it back to basics

hes ur average "mount stupid" "n3 dunning kruger"

let him dance till he cant dance no more just for us just for me

>>21095051
excuse me sir but im afraid the quizmaster has declared thee a dekinai

ヽ(　￣д￣)ノ

like lets he honest im surpruised some of u guys cried that hes shitting up the thread and ruining everything instead of just plainly asked him to post his jcat lol

lol i just realized why is 車 in core twice? once for car and another time for car, automobile. with different example sentences. thats retarded

His J-CAT is 260 or something but he claims he should be a 300.

>>21095097
ask nuke

u know who else is in the 200-300 bracket of jcat ? u guessed it

its nuke chan lol

>>21095114
yea

>>21095081
kewt

phew im safe

>>21095115
jokes on u no one in these threads ever listened to me

if they did theyd all know enough nihongo to properly appreciate how bad u r at it LOL

i didn't have time to post much today so i didn't get enough likes to use any epic perks... pity me.

>>21095126
quiz fight him then u wont pussy

here ill show u a special perk that not every1 can do<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F438;</div>

>>21094843
until someone proposes a way to actually measure people's reading comprehension

u could post a piece of text and have people come with their best summary in japanese

>>21095134
i will never fuckin play flashtards in either single player or multiplayer

>>21095140
only the first poster would count tho. it would have to be done by private submission lol

ay

>>21094817
>feeling better about yourself from putting each others down
>Literally a bully. And all this over some arbitrary kanji reading test, too. >Absolutely ridiculous. Bizzaro DJT.
just a reminder that most of you have been bullies on here at some point or another and you all need to stop

>>21095115
https://youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8

>>21095151
shut up transexual

>>21095116
Paul von Oberstein had the best voice, but unfortunately his voice actor fell down the stairs and died.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F641;</div>

>>21095179
Fuck off, newfag.

everyone below the 恐竜 is ゲイ<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="451" height="75" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/dinosaur.gif"></div>

その通り<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F308;</div>

>>21095201
そうかも
わたしはゲイなんだから

>>21095201
https://streamable.com/so9v7<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F437;</div>

チンポの大きさによる

白人は本当に最低だ

>>21095225
is this cure dolly? did she get a new model?

俺のやつは２０センチやけど

>>21095244
thats uh old dolly dude

dont investigate further or u will be sorry<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="60" height="60" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/ba.gif"></div>

ちんぽでかくないたい

>>21095263
なんっつってんの

ちびなやつはだけどときどきかわいいよ

/djt/, let us 祈る for the narcissists among us, so that ある日 they will find 平和 in their 心 and no longer stress over being 上 others, using their 日本語力 for the good of 人間

>>21095286
wow this has to be the ゲイest shit i've ever read<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F308;</div>

i liked what u tried to do but like its all wrong i mean

>being 上 others

LOL

>>21095296
stop shilling the flashtard's discord

the absolute state of djt<span class="fortune" style="color:#0893e1">

Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger[/spoiler]

readtards would fail the real japanese proficiency test (listening comprehension)

>>21095305
LOL

>>21095305
貴方はゲイです<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F308;</div>

>>21095296
>but like its all wrong
in what sense?
>>being 上 others
how is that wrong? take your pick, one of the lexical entries for 上(うえ) is "above". being above others - not wrong

I'm a New Years resolution fag from last year and I'm finally giving up. I've been grinding anki every day since January 1, 2018 and my retention has been steadily dropping. I just can't do it anymore. I can't read anything, I can't remember new words, I'm forgetting old words, fuck this language and fuck anki.

>>21095337
興味ねーよお前

>>21095337
good riddance, you should have been reading instead

>>21095341
I don't know any of that

>>21095343
Everyone told me anki was how to learn Japanese

>>21095337
should've tried to learn from the fun stuff

>>21095345
ggrk

>>21095345
>Everyone told me anki was how to learn Japanese
oh get the fuck out of here retard. people in this stress reading more than they do anki.

>>21095337
Kinda same, but I don't give a fuck and just keep reading.

>>21095337
I go through phases, but never think about quitting. I do anki sometimes for 6 hours a day for months, then I do immersion for months just watching raws and reading stuff. When things get stale I do something else. And I grow more each time. I can give up when I'm dead.

Only 10 more minutes of this and then I can go back to learning Japanese again.

What score did everyone manage to reach?

there are even common words i forget here and there but so long as i read for 1-2 hours a day i always know more words the next week than the last. so when people complain about forgetting all the words in anki after a few months that means they're either utter retards or they don't really read.

>>21095367
If you only have a limited time, anki has a priority since it shows you the words that you need to see the most. Not everyone is a nolifer, after 2 hours of anki I can fit in less than an hour of reading on a good day.

Daily reminder that you will successfully learn japanese while having fun all the way through.

Be prepared for I have 現す

Im gonna make it

>>21095408
if heads ur not gonna make it<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Heads</b></div>

>>21095414
BETRAYAL

>>21095386
my post is in response to people who are "forgetting more and more words in anki" and want to quit because of it. if that doesn't describe you then keep doing what you're doing if you're somehow enjoying it. if it does describe you, you might want to start replacing anki with reading because apparently reading will help you remember words, seeing as how i'm not having the same problems the new years fags are.

and no, anki shouldn't take priority over reading if you have 2-3 hours of free time every day. anki should take 20 minutes at best if you're adding 10-20 new cards a day.

here to skelly post

>mfw i haven't practiced any japanese today<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/skeletons/6.gif"></div>

u must have done a lot of posting lol<div class="like-perk-cnt"><marquee direction="left" width="250" height="50" behavior="alternate"><marquee direction="down" height="50" behavior="alternate">&#x1F3C0;</marquee></marquee></div>

i think i've gotten 0 likes because people are posting images and rolling dice and i have no idea how they have access to them.

>>21095437
to get points, you just need to post or like posts
of course, getting likes helps too, but liking others posts gets points

like this post to learn japanese<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2764;&#xFE0F;</div>

>>21095466
i've posted and liked posts. but i guess i'm not doing it enough because i still don't see how people are doing what they're doing.

>>21095478
it's because you're a likelet<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="451" height="75" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/dinosaur.gif"></div>

https://youtu.be/3sG_zhHAxvc?t=944

lol good ol steve

last<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2764;&#xFE0F;</div>

>>21095432
>>mfw i haven't practiced any japanese today
same

>>21095503
if you have under 100 you won't make it

>>21095414
I will dare the destiny. I'm gonna make it!

if tails, nobody from djt will ever learn japanese<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Tails</b></div>

if heads i reverse the tails and we all make it
if tails 私はゲイ<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Heads</b></div>

>>21095471
>>21095503
>>21095509
>>21095508
>>21095512
tfw i'll never be able to do this stuff

test

smiley

>>21095546<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F602;</div>

test 2<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F603;</div>

>>21095534
look at your 'perks' button next to your option field yw in advance<span class="fortune" style="color:#f51c6a">

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again[/spoiler]

>>21095557
>>21095546
>>21095478
i did it! i fucking did it bros! i was ignoring the text that appears after "post successful".

>>21095533
if heads that heads doesn't count<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Heads</b></div>

>>21095286
>/djt/, let us 祈る for the narcissists among us, so that ある日 they will find 平和 in their 心 and no longer stress over being 上 others, using their 日本語力 for the good of 人間
アーメン

>>21095569
お前つえぇぇぇ<span class="fortune" style="color:#f51c6a">

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again[/spoiler]

>>21095337
why tf haven’t you been reading lol :/ there’s your problem

>>21095563
oh thanks.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x274C;</div>

Rolled 12 (1d100)

if even nobody here will ever learn japanese

Rolled 91 (1d100)

if 80+ the LN i'm writing takes off in japan and becomes an anime!

Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>21095603
odds to reverse this, but only I will make it

Rolled 65 (1d100)

you can't learn a language anyways only acquire it, if over 50 everybody here will eventually acquire nihongo's

<div class="like-perk-cnt"><div style="text-align:right"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/verified.png"></div></div>

everyone who habitually calls others gay and tranny is secretly attracted to them and can’t admit it to themselves

if heads everybody that plays link, young link, or toon link in smash bros dies instantly<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Heads</b></div>

if tails, traps are not gay<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Tails</b></div>

Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>21095616
this is where krashen is wrong. it's actually impossible to learn a language by reading. you can only learn by listening.

proof: this roll will be odds

if heads I will drink a japanese girls pee someday<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Tails</b></div>

豚フレンズ、集合！<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F437;</div>

if heads vore becomes socially acceptable to jerk to<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Heads</b></div>

Rolled 51 (1d100)

if over 90 m4tt is the chosen nihongo sensei the legends spoke of

if heads i leave 4chan for 16 hours<div class="like-perk-cnt"><b style="font-size: 14px">Coin Flip: Tails</b></div>

this new number thing makes it really easy to know who’s posting what

>>21095685
just like reddit!<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2660;&#xFE0F;</div>

just took a wonderful poop

*jerks off my anki stats while going for my 3rd consecutive year of never reading anything*

>>21095738
あっそ

>>21095738
you're cute and adorable but please lose the tripcode<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" width="451" height="75" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/dinosaur.gif"></div>

>>21095738
shut up flashtard

>>21095738
My friend, someone who doesn't know how to read 祠 has no place shitting on other people.

いつも日本語で話すので日本語が上手になりました

When is this ending?<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

>>21095793
when i unlock skelly
upboat this post to bring the april fools gag to a swifter end

watasi ha nippongo ga suki dawa

fuck this nigger pos i hope someone punches his stupid fucking ugly face in

>>21095821
Why so 業腹?

test

onsen

>>21095848
>Perks are entered in the Options field.<div class="like-perk-cnt"><div style="text-align:right"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/verified.png"></div></div>

>>21095821
go to therapy asap

Rolled 4 (1d6)

if odds matt is gay

Rolled 63 (1d100)

>>21095842
>>21095858
if odds あなた達haゲイ

damn btfo lol

No way<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2668;&#xFE0F;</div>

>>21095858
>>21095842
hes a retarded nigger and im gonna flag all his videos hes actually autistic

>>21095885
nobody cares you silly autist

>>21095907
いろいろ世話になりました、Althaus先生。日本語を教えてくれましたことのご恩一生忘れません。

私はskellingtonです。<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/skeletons/2.gif"></div>

namasensei yay or nay?

>>21095933
for a laugh, yay
to learn from, nay<span class="fortune" style="color:#2a56fb">

Your fortune: Better not tell you now[/spoiler]

>>21095933
yes if you want memes
no if you want to learn japanese

>>21095938
any hiragana / katakana learning videos for a total beginner?

>>21095942
You don't need a video for that.
Download a chart, handwrite them out 50 times each and then drill it in in some kana app.

>>21095941
if u wanna know what the kana sound like, just hover over them with nazeka or w/e and press p

to learn to read them use https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html + just read stuff

水曜日

>>21095946
Ok, guess I'll just write them 50 times each.

How many per day do you guys recommend?

>>21095953
火曜日なんですけど

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>>21095959
All of them. One day for hiragana, one day for katakana.

>>21095961
すみません、あしたですね<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x2668;&#xFE0F;</div>

反応して心を乱されることは無意味である。

When does thread reset. I don't want to see yesterdays garbage.

>>21096014
It probably won't go away. You'll have to wait until the thread 404s and a new one is made.<div class="like-perk-cnt"><img alt="" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/skeletons/13.gif"></div>

>>21096004
日本語できた

>>21096035
おめでとう

Not memorizing the individual kanji in two word compounds has generally been a mistake.

>>21096077
Of course.
If you mine a compound word with a new kanji, you should always find a different word with that kanji in the dictionary and add that too.

>>21096072
僕じゃない<span class="fortune" style="color:#fd4d32">

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What's the difference between どういう and そういう?

>>21096145
The first one is a question.

>>21096077
If
>dude just look at the words and you learn the kanji lmao
worked they wouldn't be the biggest stumbling block of the language. Do your Heisigs.

>>21096077
why? don’t you look at each individual kanji while pronouncing it’s reading as you review?
i got into that habit from the beginning and generally have had no problems noticing the same kanji in other words i come across. i do mix things up occasionally though and i want to be able to write any of my thoughts using kanji as well so i’ve started a kanji production deck (not rtk)
今のところは順調

>>21096160
Spoken like a true non-祠-knower. Read more different things and stop chasing "obscure" and "difficult" words.

>>21093847
It might also be Festival or Festival Car. I'm doing the cards via a German deck. It's the component on the right hand side of stuff like 戈 and 弋. (so in 桟, 滅 and 戚) I find it really hard to distinguish kanji with this specific bit in, and even harder to remember whether the ノ stroke on its left is present (absent in 域).

Why isn't vncore advertised more?
Like 400 cards in right now and it helped me way more than being 1200 cards into core2k/6k.
We could use a rev3 with example sentences, but even without that it's way better than c2k for getting into reading quickly.

How do I stop second guessing myself on kanji readings? Will this feeling go away?
I keep looking up words I know on dictionary just to make sure I'm reading them right

test

chinchin

>>21096307
do you do listening practice? anime, podcasts, drama CD's etc

>>21096289
There's actually a rev3 now, but it's just minor fixes, so you should say rev4 or something.

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>>21096289
i think it's been advertised quite a bit on here. and i agree its a lot more helpful than the other core decks. since it's pulled from things we're actually likely to read, and not the newspaper.

>>21096361
And not a single specific old newspaper, even.

>>21096361
>>21096358
Oh, I missed it then.
I only found it when I was browsing the resources a bit ago, and it was an old version too it seems.

>>21096356
Yeah I watch anime and listen to jpop sometimes. I'm quite content with my listening ability, It feels like its about the same level as my reading

>>21096370
The current version was just put up today so don't worry about it.

>>21096372
if that's the case (you're hearing words a lot and getting verbal confirmation for words you know) i don't think it'll keep happening for long, unless you specifically have some ocd tendencies
i did have a phase like that when i was a beginner, but it went away pretty soon after i started doing both reading and listening regularly. nowadays if i feel genuinely unsure about a reading i will look it up, and i see no problem with that. its just part of the learning process. the vast majority of words i feel sure about though and dont feel any reason to second-guess
it might help to sound them out slowly, mora by mora, and repeatedly when you're first learning them and when you feel the urge to doublecheck, so the reading is better solidified. like
地域　ち　い　き、　ち　い　き、ちいき

>>21096439
That's my initial thought as well
I just moved to non furigana material very recently, like 2 weeks ago. I guess I'll get used to it sooner than later
Thanks anon

>likes are still active
Good

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おはようおにいちゃん

なんかふんいきわるくない？

>>21096508
うるせぇぇぇ、おれんへやでろ。ちぇこのやろうはこんなにかわいくなきゃぜっこうぜ

>シツ
What the fuck were they thinking when they came up with this crap?
You'd get a failing grade if you tried to present this shite at any design school.

>le beginner complains about kana post

simply epic.

https://youtu.be/zPwIhjBwkRg

Even with matt pretending to suck as a joke, his Japanese is better than jamal has managed in 5 years.

>>21095772
why didn't you beat him in the quiz if you want to talk shit lol? he already said he's not advanced but noone is any better than him

>>21096562
A test of isolated vocabulary knowledge says very little about how much you know Japanese.

>>21096625
says a lot more than doing nothing at all, pussy

>>21096528
海苔

>>21096636
Flexing my skill level is below me.

>>21096625
it kind of does desu. its very unlikely that someone who hasn't been reading high level stuff would come in contact with vocab like that. its possible, like with the french guy, but this guy's shown he clearly understands sentences and grammar too

>>21096625
it says a lot of you can't even get 10/10 on at least the n2 words quiz, which are all ridiculously common and knowing them is a a pre-requisite for understanding basic native materials. noone could even do that lol. of course there's a point at which knowing words has no correlation with ability unless you're native but you have to be able to demonstrate you can at least potentially read something to understand it.

祠 is a rare word. my gf is native Japanese and she couldn't read it lol so calm down with that line. there's one literally 2 mins from her house but that doesn't mean she knows kanji or it has anything to do with knowing Japanese

>>21096644
much like your skill level is below the guy challenging you heh

>>21096656
>noone could even do that
This implies people have actually gone to your shit server and failed. Seems to me just no one showed up though.

imagine literally sitting in a quiz chat for hours watching people quiz so you could jump on a single rare word someone didn't know lol

literally mad as fuck babies in this thread. u all got absolutely destroyed by the danchou

>>21096668
it's not my server lol and multiple people did show up and then left because they couldn't take the heat, most people gave up after they saw what was being asked of them and there was no way to cheat

>>21096661
>>21096668
>>21096670
yall ever take the time to think about what kissing actually is? like what is that and why do humans do it? just licking and slurping another persons mouth and tongue? hmm
キスキスファールインラブ！

>>21096681
>let me tell you why this rare context specific word is not rare at all
Every time like clockwork.

>>21096681
lmao!!! ok now i get it. you played BOTW and saw it a million times and think it's a super normal word to know now because you know it. that's hilarious.

it's not a common word. most japanese people probably can't read it (unless they've played BOTW lol).

ive lived with my gf for over a year and we've been dating for over two years. she's not the 'act dumb to be cute type'. i asked her a genuine question and she gave me a genuine answer.

>>21096698
I never played BotW. Next.

>>21096701
>(it's a major word in Breath of the Wild for example)
lol

>>21096706
Yeah? That doesn't mean I played it.

>>21096708
>heh.. I didn't play it.. but that doesn't mean I didn't watch it!! I'm owning this idiot in this thread hehehehehe

>>21096708
so how about you answer the part where you're wrong about how it's virtually impossible to for anyone to grow up in japan

common words on jisho.org extend to over 25,000 most frequently used. it's outside of 30k frequency. i don't have a list so i can't even check.

just because it's used in random specific contexts doesn't make it a rare word. if i worked for an electrical company i'd see 逓降変圧器 every single day but that doesn't mean it's not rare you absolute retard, and the fact you think it isn't says more about your lack of japanese knowledge (because you can't even distinguish what is and isn't).

When will it go into your head that the western outlook on literacy is inherently flawed when it comes to Japanese, or Chinese for that matter.
A Japanese person would never be so assblasted about not remembering some very specific rare Kanji reading like western learners seem to be.

The sooner you get rid of your unreasonable standards of 'literacy' the better for your outlook on learning this language.

>>21096681
>This notion is hysterical.
right that's why theres so many random anime-watching weebs who aren't even studying japanese reading N1 lvl kanji words like it's nothin
oh wait no theres not lol

>>21096715
祠 has rank 15000something on this list: https://namakajiri.net/nikki/a-2015-count-of-japanese-word-frequency/

Which is right next to words like 議定, 暴く, and 浮く, which you would be hard pressed to call "rare". This frequency list is also not particularly biased towards anything but academic vocabulary, since it's based on Wikipedia.

>common words on jisho.org extend to over 25,000 most frequently used.
The "common" tag on jisho is basically useless when you're trying to know if a word is rare. It's exclusively limited to newspapers, which categorically avoid all sorts of words for various reasons.

>>21096727
so sourcing newspapers bad but sourcing wikipedia good?

>>21096727
This was drawn from the complete dump of the Japanese Wikipedia on April 22, 2015 which was run through a morphological analyzer called mecab.

LMAOOOOOOO ofc it will be up there when theres like 10 million articles on wikipedia about shinto. this isnt frequency.

>>21096737
https://pj.ninjal.ac.jp/corpus_center/bccwj/en/freq-list.html
16000ish

lol this guy stays BTFO

>>21096715
>the fact that you know a word i don't, shows how much you lack japanese knowledge
>>21096717
>the sooner you realize that knowing words that i don't is unreasonable, the better your outlook at learning this language
look how desperate you guys are to defend the fact that you didn't know something, to the point of devolving into utterly nonsensical retorts lol just accept that you didn't know and walk away

>>21096733
he's not, you sore loser
i'm a spectator

>>21096746
it's not about not knowing the word. i did know the word but just didnt remember the reading. i knew its a small shrine same as most people japanese people probably. they dont remember how to read these random words, they just know roughly what it means and move on.

it's the fact that he thinks its a rare word or has any indicative properties that shows hes a dumbass. not whether or not he knows a word i don't.

>>21096740
stop using educational material frequencies for your source; they all relate to shinto heavily. if you want ill link you the actual normal frequency but you won't like it.

>>21096752
his girlfriend failed highschool and now he uses her as a standard for avg native japanese ability lmao

>>21096761
lmao these guys absolutely stay owned.

she's got a degree and works for a major international company and speaks better english than most of u.

stay mad cuz she doesnt know your ちゅうに words! ill be getting my dick wet!

>>21096766
>she's got a degree and works for a major international company
pachi pachi for her
doesn't mean she's not dumb lmaoo

>>21096766
>about to expose

dude is he gonna take his gun out oh shit

search 「ぴっちゃりレズ」on google images right now its really important