/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21076838
>mfw I can read moeges without many grammatical issues thanks to rikaichamp

a-am I making progress?

>just 30 minutes of anki a day!
ok i've been doing about 30 minutes a day for several months now and i have to admit this is getting really, really old. if you can tolerate 30 minutes, kudos to you. but i think it's fair if most people cannot stand having to spend 30 minutes EVERY DAY doing something so unenjoyable. just replace anki with something else incredibly boring like watching paint dry. now do that every day. for 30 minutes. that's 182 hours of paint watching a year. that's 7 and a half days of continuously watching paint dry. fudge that.

>>21076871
i can stand the reviews each day for kanji and it's not too bad, but for vocab i just wanna shoot myself

It's easy to forget how fucked up Dolly is. Your brain forgets how spasticated the voice is when you don't see any of her content for a few months.

>>21076886
I wonder... is that a syntetized voice or it's a real one?

any of you guys learning this shit while having a full time job? i try to do something each day but my progress is painfully slow. i won't be remotely fluent before fucking 40

I can finally read yasashii 4koma. Feels good man

>>21076918
I work 10-12 hours per day and I still manage to study every day.

I wake up earlier, do some anki, read while I commute, and study some more when I get home.

Is it truly impossible to master Japanese if you start learning after 二十歳?

>ああ、心しよう。
Who the fuck writes 心 like that? it looks like べ

>>21076977
no it doesnt it still has its 4 distinct strokes

>>21076962
it surprises me that so many people take this seriously enough to even post about it. look at polyglots like steve kaufmann. age obviously doesn't matter nearly as much as effort. i never even thought to ask this question myself because of the evidence indicating otherwise.

>>21076962
u shouldnt use the word "master" cuz thats actually impossible unless its ur 1st language

but yah after puberty has ended ur basically doomed to be a nuke chan

https://youtu.be/CLTxKuJ2nfE

>>21076962
Dude I began learning Spanish at 27. I can read Garcia de la Lorca, Don Quijote, and Amaris de Gauls easily. I know that the only reason I'm not that good with Japanese is because it's at the bottom of the barrel of my daily duties. You can do it.

>>21077018
spanish is basically english tho

how long have u been "learning" nihongo and how much of this do u "understand"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E1xCBLK6LU#t=152

>>21076962
It's near impossible to get a native accent after puberty but as long as you don't care about perfectionism then you're good to go until probably around 60.

lol @ any retard that says "native accent" what a stupid mother fucker that has nothing to do with anything u dont need to sound like a japanese person to say all the japanese words right i just literally linked a vid right above ur post that proves this

>>21077036
2 years

I think I heard a ない 、くない、and 俺 in there.

>>21077049
lol @ this imbecile who thinks anyone even implied that a native accent is required for fluency except M&tt.

>>21077056
then why put the cart before the horse ??? seems pretty FUckin retarded to mention something like that in this thread unless ur so FUCKibni retartEd taht u THnik it MAtters

Just remember the best way to learn japanese is to listen to people explain in english how to learn it all day. Don't forget to come here and learn all the tips from the pros on your downtime too. You can do it and all while listening to english.

i'm about to cry. i was so worried.

if you dont have a healthy body like matt-dono then your mind won't be clear enough to properly learn japanese. forget meditation, get to the gym first!

>>21077077
gonna need 1 of these for xiaovin soon

>>21077031
From a linguistic standpoint that's not true at all. And English is my 2nd language anyway.

>>21077081
im the dude just behind the guy in the front whose big gomer dick is obscured by his elbow

https://twitter.com/vmilk222/status/1110996109806067713

from a linguistic standpoint わたしはゲイ

>>21077097
wait should i b posting on twitter that seems like the new happenin spot compared to these threads

make me a twitter name guys

>>21077107
わたしはゲイ

i dont think that can be in my url tho so its gotta be english letters and hpoefully no numbers cuz numbers R GAy

except 69 and 420 tho those r good #s but thats it

>>21077039
Why puberty? Because of learning, or because of voice break? If the latter, are girls less affected?

>>21077207
lol what the fuck

do kanji make it easier to speedread in japanese than english

>>21077207
this is a pretty good post thx 4 the lol

>>21077238
what do u think einstein

>>21077246
yes but someone else must have a better idea than i do.

>>21077250
i mean the reason english is slower to speedread is because u eyes have to travel over more real estate so with japanese u objectively can see and take in more information faster

speedreading is gay tho if ur reading something that is supposed to be enjoyed

>>21077269
i actually don't have the IQ necessary to speed read in any language so my comment is geared toward people in the 130s or higher.

>>21077278
oh ok well im more than willing 2 engage with u in lower iq activities so whatever u wanna do im here for u

>>21077238
Think of learning to read Japanese like learning to read from zero again.
You probably started learning to read in your native language when you were 5 years old, and it probably took you several years to recognize enough words to be able to speedread.
I remember I couldn't try speedreading till I was about 12 years old or so. That took about 7 years. It'll probably take just as long to learn to speedread in Japanese.
So, the more words you learn, the better you'll become at identifying them. Since a great number of Japanese words are written in kanji, you'll eventually have to learn those kanji to tell those words apart.

>>21077278
Define "speed read". At what speed?

Is there any way to read files with yomichan? I have a few text files, but if I convert them to html (with word) and open them in my browser it doesn't work

>>21077323
i just drag the txt file into firefox and it works

i never know how 開ける or 入る are read so i just default to あける and はいる and i plan on figuring out what's actually correct when i can understand more.

>>21077287
Speed reading is just skimming, it's just people who pretend they comprehend it without consciously thinking about it. All of the audio book LN's are like 8 hours so expect it to take that long to read one once you're a pro reader.

>>21077372
why not just 手に入れる a clue lol

>>21077363
thanks a lot, didn't work with my browser for some reason, but it works with firefox.

>>21077430
You need to allow the extension to access file URLs in the botnet.

https://twitter.com/mattvsjapan/status/1111760251928248321
i think if matt ever goes back to japan hes gonna wind up getting the shit beaten out of him

not that cringe ass tweet again

>>21077475
ohh thanks!

>>21077278
Speed reading is a fucking meme for tryhard simps.

recording yourself speaking japanese to prove your competency is cringey, but correcting a native and tweeting that out isn't?

can someone explain

matt has aspergers and im not even joking i dont think he could be the way he is and not be a sperg

>>21076871
Lower the number of new cards or stop doing core and start mining.

>>21077502
can some1 @ that tweet with this https://streamable.com/6hm1z and with w.e the smuggest emoji u can use on twitter is thx

>>21077081
is that matt? just how bad is his assburgers that he thinks it's appropriate to stand taking selfies in the locker room while naked men in the middle of getting changed are right behind him?

Which grammar deck should I use? I only use Anki and try to immerse as little as possible

>>21077680
>Which grammar deck should I use?
none

>>21077678
the worst part is he has a boner too

>>21077678
wow you've never been inside a gym have you

>>21077645
video doesn't work

>>21077687
damn you must have a tiny dick if you think that's a boner lol

>>21077688
i prefer not to get athletes foot showering so i bought the gym home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uINmw0smNQ8

>>21077695
yah it does streamables is prolly just busted again try later

>>21077699
dang its like u almost got the joke but not quite

Matt last posted in the chat 3 days ago, what's going on

who ?

REMEMBER THERE ARE PAYED MATT SHILLS IN THE CHAT

paid* looks like you need to do MIA for english

remember わたしはゲイ

NOnononono not MIA please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcM9kCZt9o8#t=4373

lol

>>21077909
pls no

op you asshole why did you take so long to make a new thread this time i almost died

>>21077711
the warrior! the demon! the freak!

>>21077948
It was my first time making a new thread and I only did it because no new one came up. I was confused too.

>Learn through physically performing "narrated" actions/interactive storytelling
lol what a fucking joke. language learning for plebs i guess.

>>21077546
> Speed reading is a fucking meme for tryhard simps.

yeah its straight up pointless unless you wanna understand only 10% of what you're reading lol. no one who's speed-read a text has ever been able to then discuss that text in detail.

i watched an LP where a guy bragged about being a speed reader but then he kept missing and asking questions about parts of the story.

>>21077569
why are you an aspergers expert, do you have it? is a family member of yours effected by it? or are you just very interested in autism research

>>21077977
woah for real i thought the same guy made it every time... like only one person could make it or something. im sorry man from the bottom of my heart. you did the right thing

>>21077997
if ur in this thread u definitely have autism are a retard and have aspergs

bonus schizophrenia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb8wQjwVu2g#t=39

>>21078003
Not him but I've made threads fairly frequently in recent times when no one else does. There's someone else who uses better images. I only do it because I need DJT.

itu demo ii yo..

>>21078012
>>21077977
I'm the OP, I just took some image from the last thread. Also, I didn't know either if just anyone made the threads or if a certain person did that. But yeah, here it is.

>>21078023
I quoted my fucking self I meant >>21078003

imagine plowing some jap qt in this field all day

if u want me to make the next thread 考えとくよ lol

but we still got about 500 to 1000 posts to make before we get there

lets stay on task eh mates : )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27

>彼にはある夢があった
What's is the first ある doing in this sentence?

ある夢 is 1 thing

>>21076977
this is pretty much how it looks handwritten normally u noob lol

>>21078059
oh wow im retarded, thanks

is the yomichan popup lagging for anyone else? It'll be blank for a second before the dictionary loads, it's very annoying.

>>21078078
it's fine for me, maybe your browser is using too much ram try restarting it

>>21077909
Yoga sounds native
Nuke sounds gaijin

i cant decide if the remix is better or if the original is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIp6uabLcj8#t=26

leaning towards original tho

>>21078091
theyre both equally bad nuke is just so bad he cant even figure out to put 2 words together but its better than saying shit when u dont know what ur saying like yoga does which is guess is par for the course with these mia shitters see matt lol

最近知った
pussyの意味
いじめしてる

>>21078068
why the tenten slanting in the opposite direction tho

>>21077895
>paid* looks like you need to do MIA for english
so does matt

>>21078099
Something's seriously wrong if you listen to this and think it sounds good

>>21078119
Is this real? Isn't he a native?

>>21078119
tl;dr but that comment is from a year ago and people make mistakes but that's the 2nd time that guy has said "payed" so he's definitely an ESL who needs aeatt/mia

>>21078121
its not about whether it sounds good its about the swag and general ownage hes next generation kohh a sort of bourto to kohhs naurto if u will

wtf the nihonjins are learning too much

>>21078128
>>21078129

I couldnt find what was wrong. Would you guys help?

>>21078162

imagine thinking matt was ever high iq or knew japanese LOL

hes like ur average 105 iq who idolizes smart ppl and wishes he was one and tries really hard to sound like one but at the end of the day much like with his japanese real ninjas can tell hes not

>>21078162
well it's tl;dr but he might be referring to the omission of "bit" or "deal" between "good" and "about" in the first sentence. but natives screw up all the time because they say the word in their head but forget to type it. the continued misspelling of a word is not a mere accident but i was jk about the esl thing he could just be a dumb native

>>21078119
>I have read a good about
>the real beauty of literature is in the how the language
>most of the stories of the literature
>"classical Japanese" refers things like
>if you want some of those names
regular natives don't talk like this

>>21078177
From his articulation alone you can tell he's 120 or higher (I would get 130+). It's weird to me how poor people are at estimating IQ.

>>21078181
no hes native english hes just both a polock and a retarded child (redundant i know)

>>21078185
>>21078181
LOL

>>21078185
If his articulation equates to 120 then I must be a solid 170.

>>21078177
Being smart consists 90% of asking yourself what the fuck is wrong with people or what the fuck is wrong with you.

>>21078185
theres really no correlation between those things lol. i know someone who is really good at public speaking but is a grade a retard

honestly all you have to do to know he's a solid 100 IQ is watch his japanese dictionary video when he tries to explain really simple shit like 恵まれている but cant do it

>>21078185
>I would guess*
I'm a native and just made that mistake.
>>21078191
I doubt you're able to explain things as well as he can.
>>21078195
>theres really no correlation between those things lol
There's a heavy correlation between verbal ability and IQ. Half the items on standard IQ tests measure verbal ability. But there's also mathematical ability and Matt probably scores lower on that.

>>21078177
>>21078190
>>21078195
when youre ugly so estimating ppls IQ is the only thing you have left to feel superior about

is Core2k plenty? is Core6k waste of time?


topical OP picture btw

>>21078211
not as ugly as ur face

>>21078210
>There's a heavy correlation between verbal ability and IQ.
have u ever set food in a university? most of the smartest autists there can barely speak and thats why people always complain about terrible teaching

>>21078213
if u do flashcards more than 10 mins a day u are wasting ur time and are a retard

quote this post every 10 mins so no one misses this important message

does anyone ever take a step back and think how absurd it is that topics like IQ get shitposted about so frequently here

>>21078225
No, it's quite in line with the general tone of the thread

>>21078172
noice lol

>>21078178
thanks for replying.
i did notice it was missing something there but I was waiting for a bigger mistake lol

>>21078225
no because it's pretty clear you need at least 105-110 IQ+ in order to successfully learn japanese. it's a pretty important concept

>>21078099
pretty sure yoga was smashed for this

>>21078234
ppl are most honest when they are drunk my man : )

>>21078221
>if u do flashcards more than 10 mins a day u are wasting ur time
not if your vocab is still <8,000
then its probably a good choice to flash. but mine your own
drop anki once your comprehension hits 90% on most media you care about.

>>21078241
you've got it the wrong way around. once you've got the 10k most common words under your belt just by seeing them 100 times a day in immersion then you pick up anki to catch those words you're only gonna see once or twice a year.

>>21078225
yeah the losers on here are obsessed w talking about it so they can pretend they are superior in some area its quite sad

>>21078241
nope 10 mins a day and if u cant get going reading yet u need to be watchin ur 10000 hours of eng subbed anime

im thinkin im gonna develop my strategy around the concept of 十s lol (i made a kanji pun lol how many ways can u appreciate it ? post in the comments below)

>>21078259
so you've abandoned your convictions and have conceded to 10 minutes of anki per day as opposed to 0? sad

any idea where I could find that manga based on that Jap girl being murdered by delinquents and tortured?
>真・現代猟奇伝

>>21078233
you dont need to be intelligent to learn any language, you just need time and practice

>>21078264
its no that ive abandoned but ive made a concession and a very fair 1 at that

u dont need flashcards at all in any way to learn japanese but ill let u cheat and do 10 mins a day if it keeps ur mind right

i know im just enabling addicts here but thinking about it more 10 mins is a pretty good number for a dumb thing like flashcards esp when used in conjunction with >>21078246 tho really as i say it doesnt really matter cuz ull just deal with it when u see them again its not a big deal if u know them or not u can deal with it then

>>21078268
this isnt a piracy search engine u should dm matt if u wanna steal shit

>>21078246
no, you mine the stuff you're gonna see often (not extremely often like 私 and shit but things like 現金　眼鏡　野良猫　居候）so you dont waste extra time looking it up, second guessing or mixing up meanings or readings. you want the basics down solid. immersion will further solidify them (but not at the rate of 100 times a day for a beginner who can barely read 200 words a day).
and anking words you only see twice a year is a fools errand no matter what

>>21078238
not sure if they are the most articulate then tho lol

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH88l3_ltyJm67gAFzDFNRw
i'm studying for n3 and this channel been great so far. the podcast been super easy to get comprehensible input while doing chores. not very interesting though

>>21078289
how the fuck does he have the drive to make so many of these when hes gettin 10 views each

>>21078295
wait how tf does he have 28k subs? has to be bought right

>>21078283
idk why u need flashcards for that dude

common words are common for a reason lol its more efficient in terms of fun and having a good time if u just press onward enjoying japanese things lol

>>21078288
i wasnt talking about being articulate i was talking about knowing japanese and yoga was a pretty nice open book for u in that clip no frontin just raw shit lol

>>21078289
>>21078303
lmfao

>>21078295
he teaches on italki so prob thinks that brings in students. still a good channel tho

wait those arent bought subs u just gotta dig through his overwhelmingly large number of vids to find the real gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYs9wcGfh7Q

>>21078313
Yeah seeing the same word a dozen times when reading and still not remembering it sure is my idea of fun

>>21078317
ok what the fuck

If you are a a dummy and need to anki common words, I hope you at least delete/suspend them when they become mature

>>21078320
idk what to tell u dude i cant cure ur brain issue all i can do is link this and wish u all the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WCVMNBXKRA#t=43

>>21078317
I get it that he's pretending to be a stuttering shy girl, but oh god the implementation is so awfully bad.

>>21078317
what the fuck
how

>>21078332
>>21078336
neither of you know japanese.

>>21078233
there's truth to what you're saying it's just kinda funny that people shitpost about it

>>21078099
>>21078336
god your taste is garbage stop posting this rap trash

>>21078366
there are literally mentally retarded people who speak japanese fluently so you guys are very deluded if you think it has anything to do with IQ

>>21078365
yea ? u wanna fight me ?

わたしが見る限り

お前pussyじゃん

>>21078380
inb4 native acquisition as a child vs learning a foreign language as an adult argument spanning 300 posts

>>21078320
they don't know japanese, don't listen to them lol. they're just posturing. obviously a beginner would benefit from studying the most common words for more ease in reading and listening. deleting or abandoning the deck after those words have been reinforced a few times via input is key to not wasting time with it.

>>21078376
not as bad as ur face

>>21078380
show me one mentally retarded person who learned to speak japanese as an adult

>>21078317
lol

>>21078400
you

>>21078385
no lol you just don't know japanese. so i have no interest in meeting you let alone interacting physically

>>21078400
yoga

>>21078405
オマエpussyじゃん

>>21078407
he just sounds retarded he's obviously intelligent (see all his programming shit)
>>21078404
lel

>>21076803
Can we not put that autistic piss bottle manchild in the image? If people who talked about anything related to "MIA" were IP banned, the thread would go up in quality 500%.

>>21078409
i see you only understood one line of the song.

>>21078414
some of you talk like matt fucked your bitch and robbed you at gunpoint lmao are you ok

>>21078415
腐った女のpussyじゃん

>>21078414
>if people stopped talking about the objectively best method to learn Japanese the daily Japanese thread would go up in quality
Some people, man.........

>>21078380
that's not related to adults learning the language and i said there's "some truth to it" because IQ matters and the most successful learners all seem to be smarter than average. that doesn't mean i think it's the only thing that matters or that someone with an IQ of 100 can't learn it
>>21078414
can't we appreciate jamal and matt?

Delete all your mature vocab cards. Do it now. You don't need them if you read every day.

found something which will revolutionize my Japanese experience (handwriting and 12 key input for mobile)

>>21078414
it would but only if u guys brought me new shit to lol at

>>21077097
lol this is a good tweet matt is insensitive and doesn't understand the greater social context of cargo cult science or the fact that he's taking part in it lmao he's just picking on people who had no access to information

>>21078418
>>21078424
>t. naive Patreon chump
Fuck off.
>>>/a/
>>>/v/

>>21078434
you're such a 文庫

>>21078424
It's not the best way to learn Japanese. It's a collection of poor modifications he made to AJATT (involving stuff he directly disavowed before he became financially motivated), because he needed to look busy to the people stupid enough to send him money on Patreon. He lives with his parents and doesn't want to get a job.

>Installed Anki
>Browsed decks
>A lot of decks with no sounds
>A lot of decks with no reading for the kanji
>Lots of decks have walls of text and I don't even know what I'm reading
I may be stupid, but since i want to learn a language, I'd like to know what a kanji means AND how it's read. Am I wrong? What deck should I use?

isnt matt like 24 and still undergrad ? LOL

where the iq boys at for that one

>>21078462
you don't want kanji decks
get a vocab deck like core 2k

>>21078414
Then make the next OP if you're bothered by that, dude.

>>21078446
nigga i would suck off a stressed out 小父さん before paying for matts patreon and i still think some of yall are unnecessarily bitter and crazy lol
imagine hating someone that much who did nothing to you... couldn't be me

im gonna come over to all u flashtards parents houses while ur sleepin and change all of ur flashcards to say お前pussyじゃん on both sides

>>21078475
i like to lol @ matt but i dont have hatred 4 him id enjoy having a fun friendly chat with him about how he doesnt know japanese and how he should be more up front and candid with his cultists that think he does lol

>>21077909
why was the guy using watashi

>>21078468
Why?

>>21078503
LOL very good

>>21078481
why dont you just make your own youtube videos showing off your mad skills and how much better you are at japanese than matt
you could even gain patreon monies

黒人を許可しないでください

whats everyone reading or playing lately

>>21078510
stop crying cause blacks have a bigger peepee than you

almost makes up for their low IQ

>>21078520
Fuck off.

>>21078508
thats not what its about dude theres no reason to get like offensive or defense about a fuckin language and treat it like its some mystical ability like doing a motorcycle wheelie while jacking off and reenacting goatse at the same time

i havent thought of a good reason to make a patreon because ultimately u fucks need to go off on ur own and play with japanese

>>21078522
No. Don't post stupid shit and you'll get fewer shitposts in response.

>>21078524
I didn't post anything in your discussion. I'm telling you to fuck off, because this is not /pol/ and you are not welcome.

>>21078524
or just stop being a racist shithead or is that too hard for you lol

>>21078524
i want you to know you're welcome despite what the black man said

>>21078527
So then you're a hypocrite. Whelp, my and my opinions are welcome and here to stay.
>>21078531
You just posted something correct and racist.

fuckin racists are trash but the 1s who arent really racist and post racist things on the internet are just ただのpussyじゃん

If I have a big list of words and I wanted to create anki cards for all of them based on the yomichan card creation thing, is there a way I can do that?

Or is there a better approach?

>>21078533
Overtly racist shitposting is actually not allowed outside of /b/ and /pol/.

ooga booga dont talk about my iq

>>21078233
Not to say you're wrong, but do you actually have any evidence that isn't an argument from ignorance (i.e. "Show me someone with an IQ below 105 who's successfully learned Japanese"). Also how do you quantify "successfully" exactly?

>>21078536
the better approach is to not do that thing u were saying hth

>>21078539
There's plenty of offtopic nonsense that is against the rules yet is welcome here anyway. Stop treating it as some particularly grave offense.

>>21078552
Thanks, that's really helpful.

If you mean because I should be creating words based on things I read, the list is a big list of things from words I read. I just want the sound files and dictionary definitions in the cards.

If you're one of those guys who hate anki, thanks but it helps me remember things.

the thread itself is off topic but is allowed to be posted here go figure 考え中 emoji

>>21078563
u dont have to memorize every word u dont know

just let em go dude if u stay active and have a healthy media diet ull be fine i promise

>>21078555
If you think that you are a part of the cancer that is killing /jp/. That said, this thread is mostly newfags and offboarders so it's natural for a lot of you to be clueless.

>>21078568
I get what you're saying but I have exams on this stuff so I'm using whatever tools I can to memorise things.

If I was just learning gradually over time I'd be down but it's not the case.

>>21078571
>vtubers
>jav
>jpop
jp should be killed

haha sorry im clueless about the slowest board on 4chan outside of this thread oh it looks like they are posting about toho again lol look its tenshi eating corndog seems good oh and heres the 3d shit general threads wow this is a really cool board with tons of great threads and posts LOL

>>21078571
There's plenty of other posts that don't belong here but you didn't respond to them because you don't care about the quality of the thread. You have some vendetta against disparaging comments about non-whites but not whites. It's OK to be racist but try to be honest about it.

>>21078574
Who are you quoting?

>>21078575
ゲイお前は

>>21077081
wow matt is just better than us in every way. IQ and physique. what cant he do?

>>21078575
>was going to point out that there are slower boards that are quite nice
>realise that telling people about a nice board generally ruins it in the long run

>>21078575
honestly djt is the best thing to happen to this board

>>21078571
It's already dead, son.
>>21078575
Exactly - it wasn't always like this. It's far beyond saving.

dont be racist unless u can do it in japanese

>>21078576
There are no posts disparaging whites in this thread. Fuck off. This isn't the thread for your ideological crusade against brown people who make you feel insecure about yourself.
>>>/pol/

>>21078590
ワイトピッグ

dont tell me what you do you half literate black neet fuck

The comment you initially responded to was literally in response to a racist comment. Thanks for proving my point. Why do you redditors try to bullshit so much? Makes it such a pain to respond to you.

>>21078588
>>21078587
>>21078575
Can anyone else smell the >>>/a/ and >>>/v/ newfag offboarder stench on these posts?

>>21078595
dont sign ur posts

>>21078590
黙れユダヤ人

>>21078597
if u werent here in 03 ur a newfag compared 2 me

>download fanmade japanese subs to see why people use them
>they say 待って when the character obviously said まじで
>check the manga
>it's まじで
Looks like I'm not going to be recommending downloading fanmade Japanese subs!

>>21078603
Who the fuck are you quoting?

I wonder how many crackers are seething due to the fact that a darkie like Khatz got ペラペラ not only in the nippongos but also Chinese. おもろいっすね

>>21078605
The akashic records, crypto-newfag.
>>21078603

>>21078603
lol jp fansubs made by gaijins this is the worst possible thing ive ever heard of omigoto lol

Let's get this thread back on track. What would you change?

>>21078613
Fuck off. This isn't your Patreon chatroom.

>>21078613
>What would you change in this already-perfect model?

>>21078613
i'd go
>ctrl+a
>del
on this shit

>>21078609
The credits were in chinese so yeah very omigoto.
>>21078613
Image.

dolly is the true messiah of japanese learning
matt is a false prophet

how do i not sound like a mix of broken eroge, twitter and futaba when talking to japs

>>21078635
By being born a native speaker.

Or you could practice a lot. It sounds gay but actually practicing by taking a sentence said by a native speaker, then recording yourself saying that sentence and analysing it is probably the best way forward.

>>21078635
Why wouldn't you? That's the highest form of japanese.

>>21078635
get a lot of normal input so you know how to talk like a normal person

Alright guys lets back to things that matter (not Manchildren in Action). For the sake of thread quality be sure to report people who continually name drop nobody e-celebs. The more you report them, the more likely they still stick to Patreon and stop brigading. Also report /pol/tards too.

Post what you're currently reading.

>>21078650
I thought you were reading Dies irae.

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>>21078684
8 years ago wow

You want a fucking timeline? I'll give you a fucking timeline. You should really just adopt the "use a little anki and read/listen more" approach, but if you think it's too simple, well, you're an idiot, but I'll still try to help you. Again, you should REALLY use the simple approach, but if you INSIST on not using anything if it's not split up into stages and substages, well, here you go. Don't say I never warned you.


stage 1 - foundations (1 to 2 weeks)

read https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/alternativeguide.html

install a mouseover dictionary in your web browser https://sorashi.github.io/comprehensive-list-of-rikai-extensions/

learn the kana https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html
(you want to use these fonts: https://i.imgur.com/r6YDZsf.png))

start actively watching untranslated japanese anime or other audio-visual media (e.g. youtube, 実況s, etc) (you don't have to understand it) so that you don't misunderstand how the kana are supposed to sound
(the above step will not cause you to learn any significant amount of real japanese, it's just for phonetic/phonemic awareness)


stage 2 - more foundations (1 to 2 months)

Start this stage after you know the kana, or if you've spent two weeks procrastinating learning the kana with nothing to show for it.

start reading boirodaisuki or tae kim, depending on what you need:
https://boirodaisuki.neocities.org/dark.html
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/taekim.html

at the same time as your grammar guide, start vn core: https://mega.nz/#!G24Flahb!MnZnPq-fUYItNVT-WDBxvKfcYJuOPqmqeZnKDzcB2Fk

start actively searching for sources of japanese text and attempting to "read" it (you don't have to understand it) so that your brain starts learning how japanese text looks and feels
(the above step will not cause you to learn any significant amount of real japanese, it's just for making it easier to start reading later)


stage 3 - actually learning japanese (the rest of your life, or 2 to 8 years)

At some point you will naturally start to understand the things you hear and read in Japanese, once you know enough words and grammar and also once you've been exposed to it for long enough.

Just keep consuming Japanese in as many forms and contexts as possible and everything will slowly fall into place.

You will not need any further guidance. Yeah, really. You're free! Just keep searching out and consuming more and more Japanese. Good luck.

You can "mine" cards into a custom Anki deck if you want. That's about it.

If you're REALLY scared about developing a bad accent, just keep your listening practice up and don't engage in long conversations with non-native speakers of Japanese. It's that simple. Keep the authentically accented Japanese bouncing around your head and don't clean it out and you'll be fine.


Yuri is good btw.

>>21078684
>>21078687
he was 16 when he wrote these?

When each individual changes for the better, you have an effect on the global consciousness shift.

When you change you, you change the world.

>>21078707
>?
That wasn't a question.

>>21078652
Why would you think that?

>>21078717
i'm asking for confirmation

>>21078719
Dunno. Must've been a confabulation.

>>21078725
You didn't ask, you made a statement. Putting a question mark at the end of something doesn't make it a question.

>>21078734
Anon they're just an ESL who forgot how to structure questions please respect and work around their 障害 for the sake of the 和.

>>21078703
didnt read lol

>>21078684
>>21078687
i made both of these too

i really have fun enjoying matt lol

>>21078734
I wanted to know whether he was 16 or younger when he wrote them. Are you an ESL?

>>21078687
o god. this level of cringe is truly what it takes to master the japanese language.

>>21078743
not poster, but if you're not willing to read that much text in a language you understand you're probs not gonna make it far with language learning since you can make the most progress with reading (easier to look things up and stuff like that).

>>21078754
You're oblivious as to how adding a question mark to a statement makes said statement sound, and you're asking me if I'm an ESL?

>>21078759
i only read text i wanna read unless its really short like the size of old tweets then ill read just about anything and i "made it" before u were even born

>>21078734
that is a valid way of asking for confirmation, retard

>>21078776
You don't know English.

>>21078771
please learn english if you're going to be posting in this thread

>>21078707
>>21078717
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>>21078740
>>21078754
>>21078771
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>>21078787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofp_ffk0LM4

黒人は人間ですか？

>>21078793
いや
ただの可燃ごみやで

>>21078734
you're an ESL right? i'm a native and he was clearly asking for confirmation about something. maybe you're saying that it's "technically incorrect" (note the proceeding question mark indicating i'm asking for confirmation)? if so, then this is something a lot of natives get incorrect. which means it's correct.

>>21078571
back off discord tranny

>>21078703
>install a mouseover dictionary in your web browser https://sorashi.github.io/comprehensive-list-of-rikai-extensions/
This site is too sparse to really be useful to anyone. The author should at least add some columns to compare what features each has (e.g. do they support Anki, EPWING, etc.), and describe whatever issues they may have (e.g. Yomichan and RikaiRebuilt both have deconjugation bugs, Rikaisama and Yomichan are not being actively developed).

Something like the tables you can see here would be a lot more helpful:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers

>>21078793
>>21078808
downvoted keep this hateful shit out of djt we're pro lgbt and pro minority

i wouldnt say pro any of that shit i just co*exist lol

>>21078787
Please learn English if you're going to reply to me.

>>21078810
Please have an IQ above 89 if you're going to reply to me.

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>>21078824
can you legitimately respond to my points instead of insulting me? i didn't insult you.

>>21078793
>>21078808
超人

>>21078831
No.

>>21078831
he can't because he's wrong
this is all he's got left

>>21078793
精々下等動物

>>21078819
I'm not the author of that site, so I can't add such information.

By the way, what do you guys think about the new MIA timeline?

>>21078850
Do not use the Manchildren in Action acronym. Think of a new one.

>>21078407
judging yoga's japanese too harshly is pretty stupid, the guy hasnt studied it in ages and also speaks chinese portugese and codes

>>21078850
You're not as articulate as Matt and your guide suffers for it.

On the aspect of the frequency of unknown words in reading, several researchers have conducted relevant studies to explore how many times we need to learn them. According to studies of Saragi, Nation & Meister (1978), subjects can learn 93% of words that had been presented to them six times or more but words represented to learner fewer than six times were learned only by half. Jenkins, Stein & Wysocki (1984) discovered that only 25% of their learners had learned words after 10 meetings. Nagy, Herman & Anderson (1985) showed that the likelihood that a word would be learned after one meeting was 0.15. Rott (1999) concluded that six encounters was an adequate number. And according to Zahar, Cobb & Spada (2001) found that low-level learners needed more encounters to learn a word than more proficient learners, which may be in line with the discovery mentioned when discussing the influence of language
proficiency

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5342/f2c1cdcb4f924616527e3afd6aa27fb15bff.pdf

>>21078855
He's an autistic fatty who isn't very good at learning languages.

>>21078854
>Manchildren in Action

Can any of you retards translate this shit?
>>70361900

>>21078793
>>21078808
>>21078848
keep outting yourself that your dick is small and you're insecure hahaha

>>21078870
Ok I'm retarded
>>>70361900

still lolling at yoga thinking no one can find fault with his english accent until after he tells them hes non-native

lmfao this is the worst thread in the history of djt omigoto lmao

>>21078854
I edited it onto the MIA page, man. It's a joke.

>>21078859
>low-level learners needed more encounters to learn a word than more proficient learners

great evidence for why it makes total sense to use anki as a beginner and drop it at higher intermediate.

>>21078863
he at the least has n1 which half of the people here jizz over

>>21078878
We know it's you. Stop posting about yourself, you fat fuck.

>>21078870
>>21078875
yikes
learn how to link to other boards

>>21078887
>>21078870
>>>/g/70361900

>>21078887
>>>/reddit/your_home

Post your kanji power level. Note: only generate kanji grids for kanji decks. You may also show off your vocab/sentence deck power level in terms of number of learned words/sentences.

>>21078856
Did you seriously think that this was supposed to be articulate?

それより、 do you seriously think that Matt is articulate?

>>21078859
i'm too illiterate to understand what this is saying. they expose some people to a text with lots of unknown words 6 times and others only 2 times (for example) and then give them a vocab test to see how well they can remember them?

>>21078882
>low-level learners needed more encounters to learn a word than more proficient learners
i already knew that was the case and i still don't understand why anki should be used in the beginning and dropped later since as a beginner you will notice the most frequent words a lot while reading anyway

>>21078896
tl;dr:

6 is a good general ballpark for when you go from "I'm not going to remember this" (ignorance) to "I have a good chance of remembering this" (recognition).

But the number changes dramatically depending on the person, word, and their experience.

Experienced learners need fewer encounters to go from ignorance to recognition.

What *I* want is a study on how the needed encounters change over time. I suspect that four encounters once a week will be more effective than ten encounters over the course of two days, but I might be wrong. It might only kick in on the scale of months.

>>21078891
u fucked up way 2 many times at this point ur gonna have to fuck off for the foreseeable future lol

>>21078922
Sorry I didn't know we were doing a highschool roleplay. How about I put on my robe and wizard hat and you bend over to receive me?

>>21078703
>>21078850
>start reading boirodaisuki or tae kim, depending on what you need:
>https://boirodaisuki.neocities.org/dark.html
>https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/taekim.html
Unironically replace Tae Kim with Sakubi.

>at the same time as your grammar guide, start vn core
I think a deck with audio would be a better idea so the prospective learner has an example of native pronunciation to emulate when saying the word either aloud or just in their head. Core isn't great but if you're only using it with the intention of dropping it after the first 1k words then it doesn't really matter.

>start actively searching for sources of japanese text and attempting to "read" it (you don't have to understand it) so that your brain starts learning how japanese text looks and feels
I think this is pretty pointless. You will get practice reading and see what Japanese looks like when you read whatever grammar guide it is you decide to go with.

>once you know enough words and grammar and also once you've been exposed to it for long enough.
Don't like this statement. It makes it sound like if you're struggling to read then you need to go and read more grammar explanations and grind more words in Anki which is harmful. I'd cut out the "once you know enough words and grammar and also" bit.

>>21078940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzK79undb0

>>21078905
noticing isnt the same as remembering the reading and meaning perfectly. as a beginner if you want to remember the reading and meaning perfectly without studying them, you'd forget frequently and have to look up each of those words repeatedly. that takes time.
if it's a top ~5,000 common word, it's more time-efficient to look it up once, add it to anki to pin it to your brain, and never have to look it up again (deleting the word after context has reinforced that knowledge enough)
adding to anki and reviewing only becomes less efficient when you've already learned the most common words and have a strong enough basis to learn new words much more easily from just looking them up once or a few times in context

>>21078941
>I think a deck with audio would be a better idea
VN Core has audio now.

Re: the rest: I didn't actually put any effort or deep thought into this, I just wanted to write something I could edit into an MIA web page and post a screenshot of.

Is ダンボール wasei eigo or is it from another language?

>>21078947
Sorry I can't see the video you embedded, care to link to a site without nonfree javascript?
Regardless, it's obvious I'm just talking to you so I'm gonna stop replying

Guys I'm thinking of Yoga's "Why Did I Study Japanese?" series, what do you think
Parts 1-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06yJro12z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmuoWqX__7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzO3NAhWInQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_wMj59-RHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbZuivXY5m4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKOfkMnLZ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwXqdii1WGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoPjhdWHKF8

>>21078955
段ボール.
段-board.

>>21078976
I think you need to stop posting that fat, autistic, irrelevant nobody. This isn't a thread for meta-content.

>>21078976
>>21078985

お前pussyじゃん

>>21079058
it's why from the very start i never bothered with manga and read an ez VN instead. it's way easier to look stuff up.

>>21079058
I have 12k words in my mining deck and need to look up something every 2-3 sentences.
Probably around 20k.

>>21078995
The grid add-on was basically created for RTK-style decks. It shows how many kanji you've memorized and can write/produce from memory, and does not imply that you can't read them (which is done with other decks). Using it on a vocab/sentence deck is a misusage, because vocab/sentence progress is better measured in units of words/sentences, sentence cards often test for a single word in a sentence full of stuff you don't actually know (which would throw the grid off), and just because you can read one compound with the character doesn't mean you can read them all. Close to 16k words/sentences is quite impressive though.

>>21079068
>>21079058
My sentence deck only has 3k and I can pretty much understand large portions of a lot of anime and manga without needing to look anything up.

>>21079071
>sentence cards often test for a single word in a sentence full of stuff you don't actually know
what

>>21079066
I read VNs too and use animelon/voracious for anime to make it as efficient as possible to look stuff up. I basically stopped with manga because it's just too fucking annoying.
>>21079068
Wtf are you reading LOTGH? That doesn't sound encouraging in any case
>>21079078
Define "large portions". I can understand a large portion of a sentence ie everything but 1-2 words and I still have to look it up unless it's exceedingly obvious from context

>>21079079
(Not them.) That's the way that you're supposed to make sentence cards. They're basically cloze deletion cards where the Japanese word is visible and you're supposed to recall its meaning/reading. It's why sentence cards are bad.

>inb4 argument about backs vs fronts of cards

>>21079094
You underestimate the stupidity of AJATT/MIA cult members.

>>21079099
matt's cult hates cloze cards.

>>21079102
Yeah. I know.

>>21079091
I don't get it. I kinda got the spirit of your first post but how much you learn correlates to the amount of vocab you possess, regardless of if you use anki or not to track it. And the guy with 12k words obviously does read and consume content so what difference is there between the two posters then?

give me some good romance anime, preferably not harems

>>21079107
The issue is that knowing a single word isn't really a true-or-false thing, so you can't really count the exact number of words you know.

If you have 3k mature cards in Anki but you've been reading a lot you probably actually know something like 5k or so words.

If you know 正義 and 議論 then you automatically know 正論, does that mean that 正義 is worth 1 word, 議論 is worth 1 word, but together they're worth 3 words?

And what about words where there are several different stages of knowledge, like the ten trillion idiomatic uses of かける. Is each use its own word? Are collocations word now?

It's not something you can realistically count, nor even estimate.

>>21079114
AJATT didn't invent sentence cards, but its sentence card method isn't good either.

>Then it's just a glorified vocab card with extra context on the front

>>21079115
>The only thing that RTK lets you do is recall Kanji with an arbitrary English keyword as a prompt
This is incorrect. RTK teaches you to recall the kanji from memory given any prompt (if you cannot think of the characters for べんきょう down to the exact strokes in your head without looking, you are illiterate like worse than a child), and keyword to kanji is particularly useful because once the deck is mature you can essentially transition your RTK deck into a Japanese production deck for free with Japanese keywords, that of which gives you double mileage out of your RTK deck for almost no extra effort, and keeps your reviews relevant even when at a very advanced level of Japanese.
>RTK Kanji translate to neither meaningful writing ability or reading ability
RTK gives you writing ability that you will completely lack without it, and indirectly improves your reading ability as well. I read for a while before doing it, and the difference is huge.

>>21079128
do you mean like putting せつめい on the front
if yes, that's the stupidest thing i've heard all thread

>>21079155
2000 in anki*

>>21079155
I only ever knew something like 1500 words in Anki, but in reality I know something like 10k to 20k because of extensive reading and listening. And I used to know someone who knew like 15k words in Anki but had to look most of them up if he was reading or listening to Japanese since he couldn't "access" the knowledge outside of Anki.

>>21079139
if your card has any more than 1 item of information on the back, it is bad

0 items > 2 or more items (in this case reading + definition)

>>21079145
reading card = kanji on front, kana on back
definition may or may not be included (on the back), but you are not attempting to recall it

>>21079176
the guy whos tripfagging

>>21079167
in that case reading is just recognition but without the definition
in a sense, "recognition" is just combined "recognition (reading)" and "recognition (meaning)"

Why bother with learning anymore when I'm at the point that I can read anything with a ocr/mouse over dictionary?
I'll just read whatever I want without bothering with mining and wahatever

>>21079173
This is a very common presupposition to make, but it doesn't hold out in practice once people start mining. Someone who spends half an hour a day reading and listening is going to progress a lot slower than someone who reads and listens for five hours a day, even if they both mine about the same amount of words. I know that I'm a special case since I dropped Anki entirely, but it illustrates that a large gap does exist, and words known in Anki isn't very useful as an indicator of how much you'll have to look up when consuming Japanese.

If you want a serious answer, things get easier somewhere between 5k and 20k "known words". It depends on how much reading and listening you actually do. The more you do the less words you need to "officially" "know".

>>21079188
I'm doing the same at this point. But idk if it's good or not.

Heisig deserves to hang for his sins

>>21079190
>Someone who spends half an hour a day reading and listening is going to progress a lot slower than someone who reads and listens for five hours a day,
..of course?
>even if they both mine about the same amount of words
Why would that ever be the case unless their criteria for word selection is massively different
> but it illustrates that a large gap does exist, and words known in Anki isn't very useful as an indicator of how much you'll have to look up when consuming Japanese.
You haven't made a convincing case but I'll just take you at your word cause I'm not too invested in this, doesn't change what I have to do in any case

its not the man who makes the tool that is at fault its the retard who misuses it and permanently cripples themself with it that is at fault

>>21079144
>if you cannot think of the characters for べんきょう
i did RTK and i can't do that because i don't recall the kanji that represent that japanese word even if i could recall those kanji given their RTK english keywords.

>>21079203
If the tool is designed to cripple you, it isn't misused in that application
>>21079200
Imagine not being able to tell when someones takin the piss

>>21079185
>Did that ugly fat fuck yoga do RTK? I assume he did. So why is he incapable of doing Kanken even after studying for it for god knows how long?
yea and he also did straight up kanji/hanzi writing practice for many years and can write thousands of characters. not sure why that means he should take kanken, let alone one of the higher levels.

>>21079202
>Why would that ever be the case unless their criteria for word selection is massively different
They could both set an artificial quota of 20 new cards per day and not build a backlog.
>doesn't change what I have to do in any case
Yep. Just keep reading/listening and doing Anki. It gets better with time. Regardless whether you believe me on any other points.

>>21079202
actually the 1 hour vs 5 hour guy thing is interesting cuz i believe the 1 hour guy is just as fine as the 5 hour guy

its the doing it every day part and being fully on task for an hour and then being done with it till the next day thing that makes it good

>>21079209
his book is titled remembering the kanji

explain how it cripples u in doing what the title states

>>21079212
Because he talked about studying for it and wanting to take it? He quit though.

is there a certain word for "nudes", just like there is リア充 for normie?

>>21079217
>its the doing it every day part and being fully on task for an hour and then being done with it till the next day thing that makes it good
That's just how you avoid giving up.

>>21079219
but that's probably one of the higher levels which involves way more kanji than is covered in rtk1 and rtk3 so i don't get why he drew that connection. especially because yoga did way more writing practice than just rtk.

>>21079217
it cripples you by making you a drone that responds to my shitty bait

>>21079227
If you start burning out that means that you're starting to hit your daily limit. People who are better at Japanese can benefit from consuming it for longer periods of time. If you're still relatively new then you can't last as long before the affective filter goes up and your learning plummets.

>>21079224
i dont think all japanese exposure should be limited to an hour a day and certainly if ur compelled u should keep reading but i think setting reading to an hour by default and watching more eng subbed anime (if u want to and u should theres so much good and great anime in the world) is a better way to go if ur not very proficient with reading yet and shits largely incomprehensible without taking a magnifying glass to every line

>>21079231
no need to downplay urself like that

i really do need to get around to kill myself one of these days

No one cares what you think of rtk
No one cares what type of cards you make
No one cares what you theoretically think is good or bad
You are a novice with worthless opinions

>>21079251
don't do that, we're not overpopulated to the point where suicide is a moral good yet, wait til then

>>21079255
>no one cares yet 99% of every thread is about those 3 things
how about you shut the fuck up you dumb motherfucker lol

>>21079259
You just want to share your shit opinions even though the receiving one doesn't care

why not get around to living instead

lots of ppl make the choice to die but how many of them make the choice to live ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ0ITXQBCDw

>>21079255
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzK79undb0

>>21079264
my illustrious trophy cabinet of (you)s begs to differ

i have 39 authentic yous so far but i usually dont hunt for them i just take whatever i get naturally

To anyone who uses nhk easy news for reading material: just a tip, and while I'm not saying don't read nhk easy news articles, just know that it's best utility is for recognizing words and kanji, not how to form sentences in Japanese. If you already knew that then just disregard what I'm saying.

>>21079185
This is incorrect. RTK teaches you to recall the kanji from memory given any prompt. If you cannot think of the characters for べんきょう down to the exact strokes in your head without looking, you are illiterate. It is trivial for a RTK learner to do that, or quickly become able to do that if he can't, while someone who skipped RTK will never be able to output like that because he was a weaker foundation. One doesn't have to add Japanese keywords later, but you can easily do with a script and like I said it gives you double mileage out of your RTK deck for almost no extra effort, in that you get a free Japanese production deck out of it.
>Have you considered that there are other methods to learn to write Japanese? Far better ones than RTK.
Sure, if you want to take as long as Japanese school children do. With RTK you can knock it out in 3 months. It's devastatingly effective for what it's intended to do.

I want to read more japanese but it's 2am already and I have work tomorrow
what do?

average djter attempting to read meme hentai game of ur choice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbJUc8wiylk

>>21079323
if ur compelled keep goin dude

live now deal with later later

>>21079323
If work is within 8 hours go to bed you fuck.

>>21079328
>>21079330
One more chapter and I go to bed. promise

>>21076918
I work 40 hours a week, and I wish I could progress faster, but that's just the way things are. As far as I'm concerned, Japanese is something that I'll be improving on for the rest of my life. Like, there's no endpoint. So while it'd be nice to be better faster, I know some day I'll be at the point I want to be.

>>21079206
I can. You really only needs one hook, be it the original keyword or a common reading that you know well. I think you're fuzzy on what those two kanji could be (because you don't know the readings of them) and it will come to you with time as you read more. It will come to a RTK learner, but it will never come to someone who didn't do RTK because the ability just isn't there to produce characters from memory.

Light is dead, Shinzaverse is dead. Now I will become JOP.

>>21079181
which is why recognition is bad

flashcards are supposed to be 1->1, not 1->2, 1->3 or anything else. the science of spaced repetition is based on this format.

>>21079083
uhh what's annoying about manga, you 文庫???

front: お前

back: pussyじゃん

>>21079414
The number of things doesn't matter. The amount of information does. If you could only put a single solitary thing on the back then you'd never be able to use them for anything. Words have multiple definitions and readings, and if you make a card for each reading and definition of a word, you're going to have a VERY fucking bad time.

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the Japanese language. The grammar is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical linguistics most of the meaning will go over a typical reader's head.

>>21077645
what the fug

how can you misread 義 as ごう? what was he confusing it with?

>>21079426
no you don't. got 'em

Apologize...

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>>21079422
>Words have multiple definitions and readings, and if you make a card for each reading and definition of a word, you're going to have a VERY fucking bad time.
making cards for definitions in the first place is stupid, and not just for this reason

if a word has multiple readings, you shouldn't make a card for it

>>21079422
its like u almost understand why flashcards are futile in learning japanese

>>21079426
theres literal retards in japan right now that know japanese and u dont

enjoy ur high iq einstein and continue to lament wanting what u cant have lol

>>21079433
sorry matt ur just not that good at japanese

>>21079441
>if a word has multiple readings, you shouldn't make a card for it

>>21079442
Whip out your J-CAT score now.

matt is as good as you can possibly get at japanese, but he's retarded at social interaction

>>21079482
>matt is as good as you can possibly get at japanese
Nice meme.

>>21079482
should've done more passive listening cuz his accent blows

>>21079482
Does that really matter? We are all retarded weebs anyway...

>>21079437
>https://streamable.com/erhnw

>>21079484
Nice.

>>21079441
>if a word has multiple readings, you shouldn't make a card for it
Easily doable, I make my cards with multiple meanings like this:

Card 1
Front:
早い (1)
Back:
はやい
early

Card 2
Front:
早い (2)
Back:

>>21079528
i enjoyed this post have a you

Anyone have experience reading comics/manga on a kindle e-reader? How is it?

>>21078268
in english http://www.guromanga.com/read/shin-gendai-ryoukiden

>>21079422
>Words have multiple definitions and readings
use flashcard to learn the first meaning and reading you encounter the word in. then learn the other aspects of the word naturally with more exposures and lookups. not that difficult.

lol its this guy

>>21079509
speak for yourself kid im a genius weeb

there is no flaw with monolingual sentence cards

>>21079637
I don't see why those cards would be better than doing sentence cards. You have the sentence yourself right there. You'll never see those individual words by themself unless you're doing the JLPT or some test, so why not test yourself the same way you would for reading? It's much more realistic.

>>21079668
no one said there was

>>21079528
Look, if you’re not at least at N4, then you’re simply not worth even replying to. I have spent years mastering my kanjis and hiraganas and I have a deep understanding of the Japanese culture from a linguistic perspective, and if you come here and can’t even understand basic kanji, then why should I waste my time translating it for you? Get on my N4 level, stop wasting my time with your inferior Japanese knowledge.

>Look, if you’re not at least at N4, then you’re simply not worth even replying to.
You misspelled N1.