/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21049064
Beatrice is pretty cool.

>>21049182
Beatrice is best Girl.

>>21049414
Best Shinza girl, I’ll give you that

>>20954817

AAAA PUT PREVIOUS

Kei was in my dreams again.

>>21049064
Calm down, beatricefag, there was literally no reason to make the thread before we get any news.

Rusalka love!

>>21049064
I want to fuck Marie

>>21053371
*Tasogare

>>21053371
*Marguerite

Excellent discussion.

>>21053371
*Best girl

What happens to Reinhard in the Rea route? Does he die in Prague like in real life?

>>21056790
Why does no one read the side stories?

I thought we were staying dead until we got more news.

>>21056951
That's a valid Question...

>>21057305
Because people wanted to carry on having high quality discussions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygvyge6jaJo

artbook when

>>21063193
Just buy it

>>21063193
When Pantheon is released

>>21065320
Pantheon when

>>21065929
when light starts acting like a competent company

Why the fuck is Pantheon still not out yet?
I haven't come to this general in like six months and I expected to at least see a release date.

>>21066072
Super Appli eventually stopped progressing and Light had to get other developers
This 2nd developer (unnamed) left due to lack of experience in mobage

>>21066713
Damn Light needs to get their shit together.

So despite like 5 minutes ago mentioning that meeting Reinhard can completely change a person, when Claudia meets him it's offscreen and get no details?

>>21070592
I'm retarded, forgot image.

I’m probably retarded but I don’t get the whole “Quality of Quantity” plan Wil was going for. He even says himself that a better soul ultimately gives the same amount of strength and takes the same amount of capacity as a equivalent number of shitty ones, so why bother unless you are someone like Rein or cain who can use the powers of the souls they posess and summon the souls he contains directly to fught in his place?

>>21071062
wasn't it something to do with breaking his limits on soul capacity?

>month's almost over
>no HLC
>radio silence on light's twitter (except Silverio's countdown)
What the fuck is going on?

>>21073624
According to the tweet there's some issues.

Welp, apparently there's a guy on the "official" Dies discord planning to translate all of Paradise Lost. So, finally some good news among this drought, I guess.

What are some other good chuunige works worth checking out? Stuff that captures the same type of feel as Masada and early Type-Moon stuff. Is there much of note or are the well known stuff the only really good works of the genre?

>>21076620
Demonbane is probably the closest in spirit to Dies irae (aside from other light works, of course) so check it out.

https://twitter.com/light_staff_tw/status/1111991483316338688
GUYS

>>21077395
>pantheon is cancelled
>please understand

http://www.light.gr.jp/important/index.html
Summary please

>>21077613
Light's gone solvent
Holy shit.

OH NONONO

https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/1112009358559375361

lol EOPs
turns out your cash didn't save them

except I actually liked light
no, I didn't like how they started pandering to you faggots or how they tried dabbling into soshage shit, so you know, ざまあみろ, but also :(

>>21077684
It's okay to cry friend
I'll miss your shitposting too

>>21077690
first minori and now this
I fear August might also fall
so far their soshage seems doing fine, but soshages are always fickle

Goodbye, friends. I had a great time.

>>21077684
I doubt any VN company in trouble would be able to be saved by EOP money. Because VNs are niche as fuck, and if they're in trouble they aren't the ones that will see a lot of western sales

> また、「シルヴァリオチーム」は現在別の会社での開発を準備中でございます。シルヴァリオシリーズ最終作となるタイトルも来年、発売ができるよう準備をしております。詳報をお待ち下さいませ。

At least the last Silverio game might come out next year under a different brand.

>>21077715
i've been saying this since like least 2015/16
don't be surprised when age's next

And thus it ends.

I suppose it's been fun while it lasted.

fuck

Well that's sad

I'd rather see it all burn than see it become what FGO became

Auf Wiedersehen, Kamreds

>start reading Dies Irae
>light just fucking dies
well fuck me

I'm havin a good laugh right now, especially at you EOPs.

This is just april fools two days early right?

AHAHAHAAH TAKE THAT YOU FAGGOTS

It's been fun, Shinzabros. See you next time.

I relate to Ootake more than ever now.

>>21057305
>>21065320
>>21065929
>>21066072
>>21073624
Posts that did not age well.

>>21077821
I'll miss all of you guys, honestly. Stay well.

>>21077667
That's some hardcore doomposting, honestly. He makes it look like there's no hope left.
Light literally put an email for companies interested in salvaging the products, and if that happened to Silverio, I can't imagine it won't happen to Shinza.

Cue FGO devs buying the rights and making a sideshow out of Pantheon, essentially wearing the dead fetus of a potential competitor as a sockpuppet.

>>21077832
This is not the perfect end.

>>21077832
Thanks for all of your contributions, Russian bro.

>>21077832
Well, for my EOP friends, definitely bad news
I went from hating the idea of the soshege, getting caught in the hype with the prologue release then going back to hating it. A good death is better than whatever Fate got, and KKK is a good end.
Just hoping Masada can a job after this and start writing again.

Light actually fucking died?
So what happens to Masada and Shinza? Is it all ogre now?

wtf, how do you kill your company wihtout any warnings? Sucked at communication until the very end uh. I really wanted to see more of Dies universe and shit.

Let this be an april fools, please.

>>21077928
He will have to find a new company to work with. Hell he might give up on the medium all together and just write novels.

>>21077928
Light died, so their products are now in limbo until someone picks them up.
Whether that will actually happen is another question.
And even if it does, there's no telling if the new suits will actually know what to do with the stuff.
Imagine the new big cheese just... not liking Masada as a person and instead getting some random asshole to write Shinza.
That's an extreme scenario, but it's not impossible.

What the fuck, lads. Please tell me Masada will find a way

>>21077928
Issue is, Masada is a demanding motherfucker. There's genuinely a good chance no one will pick his shit up because they just don't want to deal with him.

>Be Greenwood.
>Start Dies irae PANTHEON for a new business project.
>Super App is development company.
>This company delayed the game
>End connection with this company, lose money after this.
>Session is 2nd development company.
>This company bankrupted, lose money again.
>Try to find 3rd development company.
>Sort out finance.
>Dissolve company and cancel the project.
How the hell could any company get this much bad luck?

>doesn't communicate for months
>oh btw we're dead
Who the fuck managed that shit?

>>21078014
They were doing fine with vns
They got greedy and got fucked
Simple

>>21077886
You're welcome, I guess. Though I don't think I did any actually good work on anything.
>>21077887
>Just hoping Masada can a job after this and start writing again.
That's actually what concerns me the most. Even if Masada will work with some other company, he won't have as much freedom as he had in light. Can you imagine any other company doing something like Bansenjin or Kajiri? In the whole industry, only Nitrominus actually experiments and does some risky stuff, because they can afford it, but that's about it. I really don't want to see Masada wandering from one company to another and then disappearing for years like Shumon did.

>>21078007
How exactly? I'm legit curious

>>21077684
now this is a cringy post

>Steiner lost his job
>posted this whole farewell thing on twitter
Holy shit guys everything is actually fucking dead I at least wanted to buy eng DI on switch

In case someone was interested in what Steiner did in dies. He deleted this tweet almost instantly though.

>>21078248
Were those parts of markedly lower quality?

>>21078255
No, Kasumi and Kei were the weaker parts.

>Campus was absorbed by akabeisoft2
>Silverio got picked up by another company
Maybe there's still hope for Masada/Shinza, Dies irae was their most successful title, after all.

Shit, goodbye one of the few things I had been looking forward to.

https://twitter.com/YuiSakakibara/status/1112022946703265792
Our goddess still believes in the project

https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1112049679670247424
The Lord himself speaks. Seems like he and G won't give up on Pantheon just yet.

I'm legit crying right now
fuck this gay earth

At least I bought Dies irae from MangaGamer's site in case it gets delisted on steam due to change of owner now, not sure how it works but DRM free is DRM I guess.
Any chance that MangaGamer picks up something from their catalogue like they did with ChuableSoft or minori which went out of business too or JAST?

>>21078656
>JAST
It's better for it to die than JAST picking it up, unless you like waiting 5-10 years for 1 release.
>MangaGamer
They released a few chuunige in the past, but all of them were massive flops from Tokyo Babel to their latest one Sorcery Jokers which sold worse than IkaBey.
Conjuror is working on a middle sized chuunige for them, but I doubt it's anything big or related to Light.

Honestly, the best and only chances seem to be fan-translations now.

Fatechad here.
KEK

>>21078473
>>21078492
The fact that the core team still wishes to continue somehow is good news, best case they get picked up by a new company and the game gets revived, worst case they give up the mobage but still release it in a VN as it'd be much cheaper. I'd say as long as they still keep the motivation to not abandon it we still have a little bit of hope for the series.

To think I was here not that long ago getting all hyped as fuck with Muzan and Pantheon scenario leaks and shit
That fell real far. RIP

Farewell, Light. This is sad news. Guess now I have more reasons to learn nip

welp that person that wants to do paradise lost had better plan on doing the rest too

I am okay in japanese but my translation could be off because this is marketing japanese...

Greenwood Co. Ltd, Representative Director 服部道知

We founded our company in June 1999 but we have to transmit the message to you we will dissolve Greenwood on the 31th March.2019

In 2016 we've started the Project of Dies Irae PANTHEON and exerted all our efforts into making this game into reality. Since it is the first time we set a foot on mobile-game turf we couldn't handle all the workload by ourselves. Thats why we were looking for to develop the game in a joint effort. First we cooperated with Superappli Ltd. and began developing the game with them as our main developing team. In the beginning of 2018 the development suffered severe delays and also the moneyflow didn't suffice anymore to keep Superappli to fund the project so they jumped off board and retained their work on development.

After losing the main developing team of the project we had to find someone else and got into contact with SESSION. Another joint effort has been made this time bound by contracts. Unfortunately in autumn 2018 Session went bankrupt and another time we lost a partnered company.

Third times the charm, you might say but in honesty we reached our capacities and don't have enough stamina anymore to continue. Thats why we decided to dissolve our company.

Rest I'm going to sum up:

Despite Greenwoods dissolving,
Pantheon will continue development and all the things and content belongs to their claimants. The rights will certainly not get lost. The developmentteam definitely want to continue. (Theres also tweets by G-Yuusuke & Masada that they do their utmost to continue working on PANTHEON)

If theres a company interested in picking up these projects floating in mid air they should adress light via email directly.

For the Anime-crowdfunders light will still make sure that the high-backing prices will get shipped and the meet and greet event with light will be maintained.

I don't bother with the Heydrich Dakimakura desu...

Regarding light and Campus:

The Projects of the brands which are ongoing will not be abandoned as their frankly awesome development team plans to continue.'
Campus will sell their works under the supervision of AKABEiSOFT who are longtime supporters of the brands in question and helped them on more than one occasion.
「恋音セ・ピアーチェ will still be sold under the name Campus.

The Silverio Series will be developed under the hand of another company. Plans are in progress and the last part is scheduled to release next year. More infos will follow.

Because of the long term Akabeisoft support lights older titles are totally safe and sellers as well as players can calmly buy and play and go on in their leisure.

The light online store will also remain under AKABEISOFT2 and you can already use it for ordering now.

Happy Light Cafe Channel will get closed and other projects which are not yet announced might replace it.

Ending words are just full of thanking and excusing to each and everyone involved as well as the trusty fanbase and the people who lost their jobs now.

Correct me if I am wrong. First time I tried TLing something thats not casual language.

>>21079677
I feel kind of bad for them.
They fell for the gacha meme and got fucked in the ass because of it.

>>21078014
>>21079677
Jesus, that's next level bad luck, its honestly incredible they still intend to finish their project after all this nightmare, many other developers would probably just give up entirely.

>>21079783
They have the foreknowledge thats its going to work out.

https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/1112122812750331910

>>21079864
God I swear if Pantheon ruined the chance of a KKK translation

If everything else fails, I'm sure Masada and G could just go the doujin way. I mean, if even Ryukishi can do it, why couldn't they?

>>21079706
I just quit my job at a mobage company and I know how big the workload can be. Making a successful gachage is already difficult because there's a high chance that it WILL fail. Those that manage to catch whales' interest require constant maintenance and updates to keep them paying, and that's where most eroge company can never keep up. They just don't have enough people to handle it in the first place.

>>21080424
The OST and VA really add to the experience, but even without I think whatever masada writes would be fun to read, even if he stops doing VNs altogether and just writes novels/LNs.

>>21078014
They probably picked the cheapest options which ultimately weren't the best. Hopefully if Shinza continues at all they will be humble enough to stick to VNs.

>>21080180
I'm 100% sure he's going to reveal that a KKK translation was planned, look at all his tweets he's obviously hinting it.

>>21079677
This is just fucking sad. Had Super Appli not retained the work they put on it maybe it could've worked with session, but this is just pointless speculation, we'll never know.
And yet I'm somehow more hopeful now that we'll actually get something than before, I guess even bad news is better than no news.

>>21081595
planning a translation doesn't really mean anything.

even a 60% done vn translation is worth very litlle and has a high chance of never being finished.

also, let this be a lesson to any other company to never release a prologue to a new entry in the series before you're sure you can actually deliver.

I certainly would have prefered for the KKK epilogue to be the final shinza content instead of pantheon prologue.

Cursed thread
WE SAID NO MORE THREADS UNTIL NEWS
THIS WAS A JINX :(

the thing that cracks me up the most about this is how full steiner was of himself and the companies future, and then they don't even tell him they're fucking shutting down.

I can't believe Light is fucking dead!

>>21082030
He always was a faggot.

>>21082003
Go to Bed

>>21081975
im not really implying anything or disagreeing with you, im just saying i feel like if light didnt die he was going to TL KKK

https://twitter.com/light_staff_tw/status/1112287234533650433

what's it say

>everyone memes pantheon and prays it flops so it becomes a VN instead
>flops and kills the entire company too
we shot ourselves in the foot here

>>21082030
I don't see what's funny about that. Why wouldn't you want him to be hopeful about the company's future?

>>21082706
It was going to flop to begin with
Hell I remember us talking about that before the thread started on /vn/

>>21082665
Nothing special. They just said they received a bunch of Questions concerning the dissolution and thank others that they show so much engagement despite it being Sunday.

>>21082875
Hatred over shit he pulled on the past and his personality

>>21082875
Hannyfag is still mad about the past and can't let go.

>>21082914
Yep. Despite shitposters going on about "F/GO killer" and other bullshit, I doubt anyone was delusional enough to seriously believe Pantheon would get even close to F/GO.

>>21082875
He's a faggot and I wish him the worst.

It really shows how fucking miniscule the standards for otaku media translations are if faggots like him or Quof can become big names. Maybe I should be bothering with grad school and instead just translate fucking LNs. Or am I way too overqualified if I passed N1?

>>21082875
He's a faggot and I wish him the worst.

It really shows how fucking miniscule the standards for otaku media translations are if faggots like him or Quof can become big names. Maybe I shouldn't be bothering with grad school and instead just translate fucking LNs. Or am I way too overqualified if I passed N1?

>>21083053
If you truly wish him the worst, you wouldn't celebrate until LNs are dead
And yes, standards are low as fuck. Just look at any simulcast translation for anime
Or NISA's translations. Even Fate, with all the sucess it has can't manage to get decent translators

>>21083094
>Even Fate, with all the sucess it has can't manage to get decent translators
Pretty sure that's because Nasu wants more money for the license than any localisation company could reasonably expect to recoup

>>21083111
I'm not talking about F/SN or F/HA. I'm also talking about the games and anime that have been licensed and have oficcial translations

>>21083124
Aren't those on Aniplex? Atleast I remember the anime subs being on them.

>>21083124
The extra and extella serie is actually well translated.

>>21083252
Don't know about extella, but I remember extra having some questionable choices in the translation of the servant's skills.

>>21083252
Except when Link's translation fucked up a line where in nip they state Charlemagne is a pruned timeline version of Karl (Meaning Charlie isn't born from pure fake myths), but in english the statement is missed.
Also, Extra used "praetor" as a translation for "sousha", which is wrong, and the worst part is retards who now want praetor and don't want any fixes to that because they got used to it and it's "accepted" or whatever
LE may have done stuff wrong, but at least it clarified what Nero means with that nickname and "Praetor" just doesn't fit
LE was also written by Nasu, so the explanation is valid too
Also "Sephyr" instead of "Sefar"

>>21083175
Depends. Anime and maybe GO are on Aniplex
Extra is on Aksys
Extella and Extella Link are on XSeed.
Point remains. Aniplex should be able to get decent translators, given they aren't small or anything
Extra may be forgivable because TM was smaller then and Aksys was an small company
Xseed being this long in the game should be better, though..

>>21083275
>Except when Link's translation fucked up a line where in nip they state Charlemagne is a pruned timeline version of Karl (Meaning Charlie isn't born from pure fake myths), but in english the statement is missed.
Suddenly everything make sense with all the incoherences

How do you even get so obsessed over an e-celeb? I hope this guy is just underage, because if not, it doesn't make any sense.

The real question is, do we have any Rosei here to tsuidan light back into existence?

>>21083294
Dunno, can you even call him an "e-celeb" if he has an actual job and doesn't live of youtube money of impressionable teenagers?

>>21083275
>and the worst part is retards who now want praetor and don't want any fixes to that because they got used to it and it's "accepted" or whatever
Probabaly one of the only time people on the internet made me genuinely angry.

https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1112360535851298817
Takahama sure is a pretty cool guy.

>>21083632
There is still hope, brothers.

So what is the future of this general? Will there be more threads after this?

>>21084072
Generals are cancer. Be happy it's gone.

>>21084085
Fuck you, this is fun

>>21084072
No point in keeping it going now that light is dead. Maybe someday in the future, when Masada has got his shit together again, we'll be back, but until then, it's farewell.

>>21084108
I guess that would be all until next time around.

さらばだ

>>21084097
It was fun for the first few months when this was a thing and when we got the prologue
Now it's practically gone to shit and no news made it worse. With a dead company, it's bound to be worse. Let us just have a good death like Shinza and not become a soulless husk.

Noooo

>>21083053
You the type of nigga to crash a car you're driving to try and kill the guy in the passenger's seat you don't like

さらばだ Möge uns unser Foreknowledge auf diesem Weg begleiten und uns in das ewige Sonnenlicht führen.

>>21085408
>unser Foreknowledge
Come on anon, I know you can do better

>Steiner will reveal all the dead localization plans on monday
I don't think I'm ready

>>21077667
>tfw Light itself gets metsujin messou'ed
WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN?

>>21086397

>>21085627
>steiner posts revealing a KKK translation
>on monday
How mad would you be?

>>21087346
not really because it's obvious one was planned

Anyone know what is this?
https://twitter.com/Myth_KoNoH/status/1112393324239872001
Looks like a fangame but I'm not sure.

>>21087573
It's an April Fool's joke

>>21087664
>リプライありがとうございます これらの画像は、エイプリルフールのジョークとして作ったフェイク画像です しかし、私は将来的に実際のDies Iraeのゲームを作りたいと考えており、そのための準備を進めています
Figured as much, though they also said they wish to do a game regardless of the joke.

Good, may there never be any more of that awful chuuni fascist trash made ever again.
literally the first commment when ANN posted the news

>>21075345
Link?

It was an April Fools joke, you retards.

let me get this straight, so light's dissolving was due to then partnering with 2 incompetent companies and because they can't find any other company, they had to dissolve?

>>21089715
They bet too much into Pantheon and the double failure costed them more than they could recover

What is the copyright status of Dies Irae now, can Masada ever go back to Pantheon plotline?<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F44C;</div>

>>21089279
Who writes these? How can anyone know enough about anime to know what chuuni means and still be this autistic?

>>21090165
Uh, I learned in my government school that Nazis are the greatest evil that has ever walked the face of the Earth, so if you portray them in any sympathetic manner at all, it means you're evil too. Your post is really problematic, okay?

>>21090165
>How can anyone know enough about anime to know what chuuni means and still be this autistic?
This is, like, this whole board.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F494;</div>

>>21089898
>can Masada ever go back to Pantheon plotline?
Let's find this out.<span class="fortune" style="color:#43fd3b">

Your fortune: Good news will come to you by mail[/spoiler]

>>21089306
Seems like he'll be uploading it to youtube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9lsnGhqUvs3wFxGPjaXQDA/videos
Only watched the prologue so far, it's kinda wonky, the guy's obviously inexperienced, but it's understandable.

>>21078656
Even if the game gets delisted from Steam you can still download it any time you want.

>>21090700
"kinda"

>>21090419
Nice.<span class="fortune" style="color:#16f174">

Your fortune: （　´_ゝ`）ﾌｰﾝ [/spoiler]

>>21090700
>>21091228
Inb4 it's visual novel world rebranded

>>21090700
>kinda wonky
>それを見届け、ライルは静かに喀血した。
>At first glance, Lyle's wound is a lung hemorrhage.
Yeah nah. I'm not bored enough to look any further, but even the first part is pretty damn terrible.

>>21090700
>its a random retard thinks he can translate a vn just because he can hook the text episode

>>21090165
I am more confused at how you can look at say Dies Irae for longer than 30 seconds and think "this game must be in favor of fascism" when literally all your enemies are Nazis.

>>21090700
>discord tranny
>dodgy translation
pottery

>>21079677
>The Projects of the brands which are ongoing will not be abandoned as their frankly awesome development team plans to continue
I know I'm just trying to cope, but I kinda hope they might be referring to the translation projects, too.

>>21093541
you're coping too hard
should have seen steiner's meltdown on twitter

>>21093854
>steiner's meltdown on twitter
What did I miss? That sounds fun.

>>21093355
I think that's a bit unfair. If you focus on the prologue and didn't pay much attention to the parts that focus on LDO character building, and don't finish the series you can walk away with the impression that the LDO are romantic hero types who rebel against the tyranny of snek and have the impression that the whole Nazi thing exists to that end, which in turn means that the nazis aren't really the bad guys. Obviously this false impression falls apart once you delve into the story and realise that a group that consists of a bunch of cowards and losers who either couldn't care less about Nazism and some even lack the intellectual capacity to do so.

>>21090700
In general, EOPs are subhuman, but these "translators" are even worse, lol.

>>21094731
It's intellectually dishonest to claim that a group literally led by Reinhard Heydrich can be read as completly distinct from the Nazis even when the Gold has very little to do with the actual 3rd Reich.
And even if we just look at the prologue we have the LDO slaughter regular drafted soldiers from the Volkssturm from "their own side". It takes actual mental gymnastics to see them coded as anything but bad guys.
Obviously you could argue that the flashbacks to Lotus in Rea's route and specifically Rea true epilogue trivializes some of the fucked up things those characters did but no one ever makes that point and I'd argue against it anyway.

https://twitter.com/DiesOfficialENG/status/1113002013539926016

this feels sad and embarrassing to read

>>21096649
?

>>21096649
>retarded gaijins think they can save companies by throwing money at them with kikestarter

can't wait for âge death announcement next. they've been silent for months now.

>>21096325
The thing is, the sequels don't frame LDOs as villains. Heck, even Reinhard fucking Heydrich is a good guy now.

>>21098208
You mean KKK? Because it still says something when the way to make them heroic is to have a selfish asshole god who just wants literally everything that isn't him to fucking die and leave him alone forever.

brudis, I don't feel so good. surely masada will find a way, right?

>>21098410
>right
I see was you did there.