/jp/ - Otaku Culture

The chu chu thread died for this. RIP

>>21069374
The chu chu thread was never completed woman, but then you are that sort of antagonist, what's a tomorrow to you?

>>21069384
The chu chu thread had already hit the bumplimit. It was as completed as it could get. Let's just pay our respects and move on to the topic of this thread.

やっぱり私は出来ない

Just memorize thousands of words, learn how to spell them, and learn how they're used.
Consult grammar guides if necessary. Use anime, manga, VNs, etc. to reinforce whatever you've learnt, not as actual learning material.
Forget about methods or anything else. Do whatever you plan on following through.
Ignore what professional linguists or psychologists tell you. What might work for one person might not work for another.

itazuraneko is down? how am i supposed to find native material ill pretend to read

Can someone explain to me what 訳 means and/or how to use it? I’ve read different explanations and example sentences and it seems easy enough but then I’ll see it when I’m reading stuff and have no idea what it adds to the sentence. It just seems to have so many meanings I get confused

Rikaisama doesn't work for me with Waterfox, am I just autistic? I even followed a readme!

>>21069432
it's not, your ISP is having trouble with neocities or vice versa

i'm going to challenge myself to go an entire month consuming exclusively moe content for my input

>>21069444
Since it has many meanings it's not something that can be explained. You'll just have to get a feel for them. But some special cases that you should look up where it has rather unique meanings are 言い訳 or 申し訳, と言う訳だ, 訳あって and 訳あり, ...訳がない, 訳がわからない and probably forgot some others.
There are all rather idiomatic and something you can't guess from just knowing the definition for 訳.

>>21069478
Ah, gotcha. I’ll look into those specific ones. I figured that it might be one of those “don’t think, feel” grammar points but just wanted to be sure

>>21069515
訳 is almost always used in expressions like that, so if you meet something that you don't understand try looking it up together with nearby words.

>>21069451
it was me all along...autism

>>21069436
That guy is smart desu. It is literally impossible to become fluent in Japanese if you started after ~17-18

>>21069436
Why do I like this image so much? It may be the best ever posted here.

>>21069600
It's possible, but only with Anki

>>21069411
やっぱり私はゲイ

>>21069600
>できないヤツの考え方は？

>>21069600
>>21069613
and echelon 8 of The Mind Illuminated

>life's too short to finish all the LNs, VNs, and JRPGs I want to play
why even bother

>>21069655
Finish the ones you want to play/read the most.

>>21069655
feels so fucking good having good taste and only feeling like consuming perhaps the top 20 of every type of media.

>>21069655
Still better than having the opposite problem.

>>21069666
I like everything. Even "bad" games generally have something interesting enough in them to make me want to at least try them.

>>21069655
Right now I commit like 8 hours a day to consuming Japanese media (LNs, anime and games) and it still feels like there's not enough hours in the day to get to everything I want to get to. I think, if I can only read 8 LNs a month, that's like 96 a year, so what, I can read maybe 4,000 with the time I have left on Earth? Then I start to have an existential crisis

>>21069600
What if I kind of started passively immersing myself into Japanese words and sentence structures through anime and stuff around the age of 16, but didn't learn hiragana till the age of 18, and haven't seriously started learning kanji and reading manga till the age of 19/20?
Would it be possible for me to become not exactly fluent, but at least good enough to read eroge and LNs, and to kind of communicate with Japanese people on a basic level? I would, of course, love to be able to read Murakami and Kawabata novels, or to be able to communicate my thoughts, and even write lengthy opinion essays, but I'm trying to keep my expectations for myself low, so as to not fall into disappointment.

>>21069691
All fiction is just a copy of The Epic of Gilgamesh. Read Gilgamesh and you will have read every single story, learnt about every single archetype. Every man is both Gilgamesh and Enkidu. They're the eternal boke-tsukkomi duo.

>>21069717
Which one is the shy little sister?

>>21069728
Enkidu
Gilgamesh is the ara ara nee-sama

>>21069703
Why wouldn't you be able to. Ask anyone who says you can't to give genuine, tangible evidence. There's nothing to suggest that if you just simply get a shit ton of input, regardless of age, you can learn Japanese.

>>21069600
for you

Kira Kira is pretty fucking boring so far. Only managed to make it through 2 days of the story up to now because reading it puts me to sleep.

I'm struggling to understand why this was even made as a VN. I guess it's just due to the musical focus of the story so they'll be able to play the songs since otherwise it just reads like an LN. For the most part, sections of spoken dialogue are few and far between, and even when you eventually do get to some dialogue it's interrupted every line by long, waffling walls of narration. I don't think I can force myself through much more of this so hopefully the plot starts to pick up soon.

The first time I tried reading it I gave up because it was too hard. This time it looks like I'm going to give up because it's too boring.

>>21069449
The only Firefox fork worth using is IceCat.

Forget Abandonwaresama and use Nazeka.

>>21069893
Narration-heavy writing is impenetrable if you don't have the reading speed of a literate native. I recommend reading something else and coming back to Kira Kira later, once you no longer have any reason to come back to DJT.

Just got Nanoha's good ending. Man, between her good end and Rain's good end, it feels like there's not much left to explore with Chinatsu's route, to say nothing of there being an entire second half of the game in Dive 2. I enjoy the gameplay and the characters enough to keep going, but I'm hoping some seriously crazy shit shakes things up in Chinatsu's route, because so far we've learned the answers to most of the remaining mysteries, the most important one being what really happened to cause the Grey Christmas.

>>21069893
Sorry to hear you're not enjoying it that much. I haven't read it so I can't give much advice beyond "life's too short to make yourself play games that you're not feeling," but at the same time maybe at least push a little further before you really decide whether or not to drop.

been like a month since I studied...

>>21069926
But, anon, you can't use EPWING with Nazeka!

>once you no longer have any reason to come back to DJT.
i feel sorry for you if you don't love this place for the awesome hangout with awesome people that it is.

>>21069979
Are you sure? I thought that feature was added in an update a few months ago but I might be wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcHMO-CF4Rg
here is some food to eat

>>21069930
You haven't seen anything yet, son. You will be shitting bricks during dive 2.

>>21069992
Seems I thought wrong:
https://github.com/wareya/nazeka/issues/11
https://github.com/wareya/nazeka_epwing_converter
https://github.com/wareya/nazeka_epwing_converter/issues/1

The dev seems to be taking the same approach to EPWING support as Yomichan's dev did, where the extension will not support EPWING dictionaries themselves and instead requires you to convert them first to JSON format and then import them.

From what I can gather though, it seems like Nazeka doesn't let you use EPWINGs converted to JSON via Zero-EPWING for some reason. it looks like you have to first convert the EPWING to a zipped archive of JSON files using Zero-EPWING, then convert that zipped archive into a single JSON file using Nazeka's own EPWING converter. Why this is, I have no idea.

The readme on the github page for Nazeka's EPWING converter is 2 months old though, whereas the converter itself has been updated as recently as yesterday, so I don't know how accurate or up to date any of this information still is.

>>21069600
>thinks you can't learn new words after a certain age
>t. brainlet theories
Or was it just bait..

damn this looks useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wur7VUlA7U4

>>21070132
So to summarize, it seems support for EPWING technically exists but there's no easy means of converting the dictionaries into a format that Nazeka can read right now, so for all practical purposes you can't use EPWING dictionaries with Nazeka.

>>21069991
It's filled with a bunch of retards that jerk off over e celebs (if they're even that) and criticize any learning method that isnt AJATT or anki

>>21070155
why is a guy that knows barely anything about pitch accent making the pitch accent addon.

Kaufmann: audio + visual written language is critical and all you need
Krashen: just read dude
Matt: rtk + anki + watch anime w/out subs all day + mine sentences + read last
Khatz: eat cake with chopsticks

>>21070214
>and criticize any learning method that isnt AJATT or anki
If you're the same guy who keeps saying this I wonder why because this thread pretty unanimously hates AJATT and dislikes anki. There's literally like 1 or 2 people who debate it.

me: dont think feel just learn

>>21070224
Dolly: Grammar + read + anime w/sub + mine sentences
Jamal: 10,000 hours of eng sub anime + eroge

>>21070264
>>21070224
I could be studying right now

>>21070464
u forgot to put taro ninja on there and his stat is just お前pussyじゃん

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIp6uabLcj8#t=26

>>21070522
im gonna beat the tar out of an 8 year old

>>21070526
that lil fucker would put ur ho ass on the corner know that

>>21070533
fuck no i'd give him a spanking he'd never forget and japan would give me a merit of honor. shinzo abe would tell me to go forth and fuck

>>21070543
i doubt it dude take 1 step at him and ud get waxed son

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27

>>21070215
People who barely knew anything about kanji were the ones who put the kanji in Unicode

>>21070464
God I wish LingQ wasn't fucking shit at parsing japanese.
I still can't believe that you can't get rid of spaces between words.

>>21070132
>From what I can gather though, it seems like Nazeka doesn't let you use EPWINGs converted to JSON via Zero-EPWING for some reason.
Yomichan can't read the output of zero-epwing directly either, you have to use https://github.com/FooSoft/yomichan-import/, which itself uses zero-epwing internally. Why? Who knows.
>it looks like you have to first convert the EPWING to a zipped archive of JSON files using Zero-EPWING
zero-epwing produces a single loose json file.
>then convert that zipped archive into a single JSON file using Nazeka's own EPWING converter. Why this is, I have no idea.
It's because zero-epwing outputs things "as-is" and they have to be simplified/fixed up to be useful. For example 外字 are actually images and the references to them have to be replaced with actual characters. The addon could probably do this on its own but the converter's Rust code is a hell of a lot cleaner and more readable than nazeka's Javascript so it's probably for the best that it's a separate program.

>The readme [...] is 2 months old though
This is completely normal. I've seen readmes that weren't updated for years.

Anyways, converting dictionaries is a lot better than talking to some hacky windows program in real time to parse epwing dictionaries for you like rikaisama does. It made a lot of epwing dictionaries unusable, since they had so many example sentences (no, regex filtering wasn't good enough), and if something went wrong with the hacky epwing reading program you were out of luck.

Everyone's just going to pirate their dictionaries anyway, might as well just pirate them preconverted like people started doing for yomichan dictionaries.

uh what

>>21070722
practice vs. foreplay and non-penetrative sex
real performance vs penetrative sex

>>21069626
man I remember 2 years ago trying to find a pdf of that book and thinking about buying it. I feel ashamed

>>21070734
I mean why the same word for performance and penetrative sex/ unsimulated sex wtf

>>21070761
It's not, that's just another sense of the word 本番. 本番 just means "the real thing" where "thing" (番) is some kind of performance. (For example in an RPG might use say 私の番ですね when their turn comes up.) Don't think in terms of English definitions. In fact, don't think at all. Feel.

>>21070761
performance/real deal as opposed to practice/foreplay

I still use rikaisama and that shit simply works

have fun with your viruses

>>21070776
Ohh I get I heard that word from an anime and with some context it makes sense. Thanks sempai

>>21070678
You know the implementation of CJK characters in Unicode is kind of a nightmare right? Japanese scholars had to develop an entirely different character encoding to work with older texts because Unicode isn't up to the task

Why does this mean tranny when 鍋 doesn't have anything to do with it?

>>21070857
We call lesbians pots as well in Dutch, clearly there must be something to it.

who here is an actual 引き篭もり

>>21070834
go educate yourself, you're misinterpreting whatever you're thinking of

sorry im a hikineet

>>21070021
Apart from the fact that she's obnoxiously loud at times her speech patterns are pretty good. Is this the difference between Italians and Americans in mimicking Japanese phonemes?

>>21070464
What if I do LingQ without LingQ? Also what are Mini-stories?

I just read and watch stuff and decipher whatever I come across. Wherever this falls I guess.

>get near finishing Genki 2
>learn about the powers of RTK
>decide to skip the Kanji part of Genki and just do RTK instead
>decide to continue with Genki, and then switch over to core 2/6k and tae kim to consolidate the grammar Genki taught me
>Impose a deadline of 25 kanji/day minimum
>after a while it takes a LOT of time to learn 25 a day + do all the RTK anki reviews
>literally don't have time and/or energy for vocab and grammar. Haven't done it in almost 2 weeks now

How do I go back to studying actual Japanese while still making those puns? If I go with less kanji/day it will take ages to finish RTK.

>>21070708
>I still can't believe that you can't get rid of spaces between words.
You can but yeah the parsing is shit. You get use to it but that doesn't make it ok.

>>21070903
What do you mean decipher? If you use a dictionary or dictionary-like thing then you're a LingQer, if you either understand it or don't then you're an Inputter.

>>21068366
Sorry for the ultra-late reply anon. That might be what she meant. Asking her.

>>21070917
I do both. Some things I just watch and pick up whatever I can and sometimes I sit there and go through every sentence making sure I understand whats going on. Both seem to have their merits.

俺は婚外交渉が大好きだ

>>21070917
>if you either understand it or don't then you're an Inputter.
ebin meme m'brother

>>21070933
That's what Krashen advocates though

has anyone ever finished multiple volumes of manga in one day? i'm down 4 volumes of 私がモテないのはどう考えてもお前らが悪い and 123 new words looked up

>>21071058
I could barely do 1 to be honest with you. Maybe if it was yotsubato

>>21071058
>humble brag disguised as a question with the most obvious answer ever

>>21070464
And then there's what I do:
>read shit with a dictionary until fluent
It worked with English, at least, so I guess I'll just repeat it with Japanese

>>21070614
Just kill me already I don't want to share this world and my life with people as dumb as that

>>21070614
fuckin lol

>>21070924
If you see this anon, you were correct! Thanks!

Why isn't づ used more often?

Only word I know that uses that sound.

金槌 かなづち

>>21071107
小遣い
気付く

>>21071107
およげないの？

あたしのちほーに

およげないひといないよ

>>21071084
woah sorry i definitely wasn't bragging just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced reading a series they literally couldnt stop all day
t b h this is very rare for me because usually i dont have the time or focus to read more than half of one... also usually i'm worried about marking and saving words for mining in anki whereas today i just said fuck it, looked up and moved on... those anti-anki people might be onto something

>>21071076
you'll get there someday keep on pushing friend

>>21071115
およげないならそつぎょうできないだろう

yall havin fun with them hiraganos and katakanos

>>21071128
フィリピンとか

オーストラリアとか

うみがちかいとこは

金槌がすくなそう

>>21071125
Its an issue of stamina but yeah, one day surely...

>>21071122
Don't be a slave to Anki and you're golden. No one says its bad to put down words and expressions you think are useful but don't force yourself to add everything you ever encounter to Anki.

Some things I remember effortlessly without Anki, some things I don't remember even after reviewing it for the nth time in Anki. Anki is not your brain and not putting something into Anki doesn't mean you won't learn it. The same goes the other way round.

>>21070905
i'm doing 63.5 kanji a day on rtk

i don't do anything else since i'm mentally exhausted after 70 minutes of reps and 60 minutes of learning

but i'm gonna finish (learning new kanji with) rtk 1 in 4 days and rtk 3 in 18 so there's that

then it's review only life for me

The majority of you just need to accept that you are Weevil Underwood in this anime and Matt-sama is Kaiba.

>>21071166
>Matt is the douche who thinks that he's the best because he has money (cultists)
I wonder who the Yugi is.

おふろで

およいでたら

おこられた

>>21070905
read native content, studying is bullshit

>>21071146
>フィリピン

Use kanji fucking retard I cant understand jackshit of what ur saying

比律賓とか

濠太剌利とか

海が近いとこは

>>21071187
nuke-chan

>>21071217
オーストラリア
　豪 　州 　 　だとおもうよ

>>21071214
>>21071214
>>21071214
>>21071214
>>21071214
>>21071214

>>21071217
>>21071227
オーストラリアネイティブの

チャドマレーンがいってた

ごうしゅうって

>>21071146
イギリスはそうでないけど

>>21071156
thanks for the kind advice. i think my problem is making the decision of what to do with each new word once ive encountered it. anki? or just leave it to input? anki? or leave it to input? its like i get decision fatigue if i have to decide so i either throw it all in anki or leave it all to immersion
the only exception are words that were just very easy and obvious given what i already know. like 紙袋 or something. its easy to leave ones like those but everything else i just can't consistently decide in a way that feels even remotely logical arghhh.

like i recently tried leaving words with kanji i already know and anki-ing only words with new kanji, but i found that often words with kanji i already know would have meanings or readings i wouldn't expect from looking at the kanji and so it seemed i should add those to anki too. sigh

>>21071270
おにいちゃん

かなづち？

>>21070714
>Yomichan can't read the output of zero-epwing directly either, you have to use https://github.com/FooSoft/yomichan-import/, which itself uses zero-epwing internally. Why? Who knows.
Shit, I forgot about that. It's been so long since I used Yomichan that I forgot it had its own converter and you didn't just use Zero-EPWING itself. The bit about zipped archives of JSON files is due to the same mistake. I have some Yomichan dictionaries still on my hard drive so I just looked at them thinking they had come directly from Zero-EPWING.

>Anyways, converting dictionaries is a lot better than talking to some hacky windows program in real time to parse epwing dictionaries for you like rikaisama does.
Yeah, what put me off using EPWING more than anything under Rikaisama was the annoying lag they had as a result of this.

>It made a lot of epwing dictionaries unusable, since they had so many example sentences
And this was/is the other big problem. The Kenkyuusha dictionary has an insane amount of example sentences. It's basically unusable in a Rikai-like add-on setting as-is.

There's a similar problem with the Daijirin dictionary since its J-J and J-E versions are bundled in a single dictionary, so you end up having to either use both (which takes up a lot of visual space and makes it basically unusable) or none.

>>21071187
>>21071214
You must embody the heart of Yugi. Nuke-chan is gi-chan - our mentor, our spirit, all that which is good in the world.

>>21071280
わしじゃね

およげますよ

>>21070614
he knew about a dictionary. he just wanted to attention whore how interested in japanese he is. fuck reddit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKPtKdH-_q8
https://pastebin.com/y6grZcim

How the FUCK is she fluent in 3 languages?
English and Japanese being L2 and L3
https://youtu.be/K8AQM3kVtLM?t=307

>>21071137
necos dont eat others ass they eat their own ass

therefore necos are disgust

>>21071446
unimpressive when people like steve exist

>>21071446
>How the FUCK is she fluent in 3 languages?
How do you know she's actually fluent? You know you're just assuming that unless you're fluent yourself, right? M@tt wrote an article about this scenario just for you:
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-1/theory/the-fluency-illusion-and-who-to-trust/

matt also doesnt know japanese or how to help other ppl learn it

>>21071489
>don't listen to anyone, they might have learned because of their brand of yogurt, they have no proof
>also YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO MEDITATE THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!
Sometimes I wonder if everything he says is a giant prank.

>>21071489
why would u link the newer written version when in the original u could hear the masters voice

>>21071489
this should be bannable

>>21071513
its such a good prank he even pranks himself

>>21071520
its obviously a shill advertising 4 his boy and thats against the rules rise up

khatz was right about everything and he was too good for us

alternatively its off topic for this board ; )

>>21071538
it's a false flagger trying to get based sama banned. don't listen to this asshole

matt

the only ppl who are gonna "make it" are the 1s that follow their kokoro as opposed to some dude on the internet

>>21071446
i'm native-level in 3 languages simply due to the circumstances of my childhood

is that considered as impressive to ameritards ?_?

>>21071566
If you learned them in your childhood it's not impressive. if you take the time when your older, then it's impressive.

>>21071593
took**

>>21071593
learning your country's native language + english is not impressive at all, and most do it as children

she's only as "impressive" as her japanese

>>21071593
>if you take the time when your older, then it's impressive.
but people could spend those thousands of hours on programming or math or something useful like that. i'm only learning japanese because i'm too stupid to learn math.

>>21071566
They're probably similar languages, not from the 3 furthest regions of the hemisphere. She also learned her languages on her own.

>>21070722
>>21070761
that definition is shit, don't worry about it

read more and you'll get a feel for what 本番 really means

>本番
〔映画・テレビ・ラジオなどで〕練習ではなく、本式に行う演技・放送。 「―を迎える／ぶっつけ―・夏―〔＝いよいよ本格的な夏（が間近）だ〕」
what the hell? to do something earnestly and without practice? but then i have no idea what these brackets all mean.

>>21071615
actually two of them are from distant indo-european branches and one from a completely different family

and now i'm studying japanese which is from another distinct family

brackets themselves dont mean anything

>>21071613
huh what a coincidence
math is what i learned in university (not my major, but a big part of it), programming is what i taught myself when i decided i don't want to continue in the academia

and now i'm learning japanese

don't worry, only the skills related to things you're actively pursuing are useful

my knowledge of math is not a useful skill because i do nothing with it

>>21069368
kimono desu ne

>>21071686
it doesn't say "without practice"
but "not practice"
you can practice for a honban, but the honban itself is not practice
honban is the actual thing, the actual performance, the actual event
the brackets are usage examples
now stop worrying about it and read more

>>21071686
huh?

not a practice, but rather the "real" performance

>>21071717
>>21071720
i'm never gonna learn this shit.

>>21071686
it's call that you're trying to do the monolingual transition, using shinmeikai and everything

but you still can't figure out how to read on a sufficient level to use a J-J dictionary so maybe dial back on that?

>>21071728
*cool

>>21071728
>it's call that you're trying to do the monolingual transition
no i'm not.
>but you still can't figure out how to read on a sufficient level to use a J-J dictionary so maybe dial back on that?
if anything that means i should read japanese dictionaries more but i don't want to.

>implying you can learn Japanese when natives with 20+ years of immersion can't

nihongo real ninja test

translate お前pussyじゃん

>>21071752
お前プシじゃん

>>21069449
>>21069926
What's wrong with Yomichan?

Going through Yogapants channel, he has done more selfless work for the community in a few months than everybody else combined. The work he's putting in to advance the nihongo for all agenda is like the thousand pages of scripture by the prophet khatz.

>>21071929
Lol thats so true tho everyone else just preaching

>>21071929
お前pussyじゃん

>>21071612
Not them, but I think it depends on the languages you've learned. If you've gotten fluent in two以上 languages that are quite different from your own, and done so while an adult, I would say that's impressive. You're also omitting the fact that it's practically effortless for little kids to learn a language where as even for a language that's fairly similar to your native one you still have to put in some decent time and effort to get fluent at it in adulthood. and with a drastically different language the difficulty is exponential.

>>21071929
probably the mvp of the comunity, matts the priest

>the priest
>he doesn't know

>>21072028
>If you've gotten fluent in two以上

>>21072137
the wild dekinai appears

>>21072150
The true dekinai is the guy randomly using a Japanese word with a clean English equivalent in an English post (two or more)
Someone who wants to feel like they're good at Japanese but aren't, someone who sucks too much to type in Japanese but wants to feel like they have a grasp of Japanese and are putting their studies to good use

>>21072170
or you're overlooking a meme, like a true dekinai

お前pussyじゃｎ

もぉどうしよ

>>21072170
the person who takes learning japanese seriously is the real dekinai. once you ascend to true 平和 you will know that the only way to learn is to read and listen, and this thread is for shit posts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqmdifZvX6E

honestly i just come here to laugh at how u guys will never have it as good as i did in the 90s and 00s lmao

>>21072323
what do you mean? what's "it" ?

>>21072323
i didn't have "it" good in my life regardless of the decade

just everything in general when it comes to 2d

I can't wait for the day 3d will turn to 2d

honestly i just come here to laugh at how u guys will never have it as good as i did in the 1890s and 1900s lmao

like 80 to 05 is like the golden age

I'm sad i wasn't born in murika. Would have got free neetbux

honestly i just come here to laugh at how u guys will never have it as good as I did in the 1600's through the 1860's lmao

you will never experience meiji japan's rapid industrialization

https://a.uguu.se/NbxMyvfZTk1D.webm

>>21072323
i mean if your just talking anime we have easier access to all the shows from back than and there have been some good additions in the 2010s(even though the overall feel is worse). I started anime in 2005 and overall have a positive outlook for anime and am curious about trends in the 2020s.

>>21072365
>as if you would want to

>>21072365

>You will never experience a post-war childhood in a rapidly recovering Japan

I'm not gonna lie, From Up on Poppy Hill really, really fucked me up...

>>21072394
best thing about those wars is there are significantly fewer adult men than women afterwards.

japan is a fuckin island of savages

does anyone else feel disgust towards the english speaking anime community. Like im at the point where i don't even count reading a translation as actually reading and subs are for subhumans.

my hanten arrived today. silly peace of clothing but incredibly warm and stylish.

>>21072420
you're at a stage matt様 was at in his nihongo studies. caring as much as you do about these people ironically makes you sub-human, just a different breed. maybe someday you will find the path of meditation and become simultaneously a god at japanese and not give a fuck about non-trivial things.

>>21072445
オマエpussyじゃん

>>21072473
逆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HinT8DXYdDk

Remember to let the DJT theme song burn into your mind every day.

pretty sure this is the djt theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yirVxFBnp2o

except pretend its about hentai gaming lol

>>21072445
dude matt is not someone to look up to. he unironically likes people like jordan peterson and tkyoham. also he worships his method and makes tons of idiotic remarks which reveal his low iq.

plus my feeling of disdain to westerners is more than just feeling my japanese is superior. these people have the worst taste, complain about loli, and complain about translations and how hard japanese is to learn.

I physically cringe when these fat greasy white people say shit like, "I relate to this (smart/attractive/cool) character" or "the writing on this show I don't even know the language of is so good/bad" these people disgust me and I can't wait to go to japan to distance myself from them as much as possible.

its ok to like and appreciate characters relax sperg

agreed tho if u wanna be at a great distance from people japan is the place to go lol

>>21072490
thats some shitty noise

>>21072519
And I physically cringe when you show that you care this much about ultimately arbitrary things. where do we go from here?

>>21072519
>these people disgust me
cringe who cares

>cringe
yeah, that's gonna be a yikes from me dawg

>>21072527
yah well sos ur face

>yikes
yeah,thats gonna be a smfh from my dawg

Is it considered cheating if I use Yomichan to read unfamiliar words on NHK Easy despite otherwise able to comprehend it? Is it also considered a faux paux if I use its subreddit to check if I'm right?

>>21071786
Not him, but I don't like pressing the shift key to bring it up. Rikaisama auto highlights via the cursor. Still, that real time import function is extra handy. Also, am I supposed to put in a kanji dictionary as well? Clicking on words in the overlay never gives me any results.

>yikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3I9O2PjGtQ

>>21072445
kys

>>21072562
レディーファースト

>>21072555
>Is it considered cheating if I use Yomichan to read unfamiliar words on NHK Easy despite otherwise able to comprehend it?
no

djt in a nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIdv_pnkHJk#t=420

>>21072584
Bit of a relief there, though I have a long way to go. I'm assuming I'm not the only one who uses the subreddit to proofread though.

>>21072555
cheating in what regard? it's not any different that having to look up a word in the dictionary. it would only be "cheating" to me, though I would personally say "lying", if you claim to be able to read an article no problem yet have to use Yomichan for some words.

>>21072604
there's nothing wrong with that, in fact i'd say it's useful as long as you go back to the japanese when you made a mistake and make sure you understand why you got it wrong

>>21072365
whats this guy originally listening to

>he doesn't immerse all day long by talking to himself in broken nihongo

>>21072619
Towards the end I fucked up. I'm far too used to words like 分かる using kanji so I thought its past negative form in pure kana meant "separate" within the context of separating the male and female baby seals from each other. Of course I also wasn't paying attention to a か particle either. Referring to this article.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10011863851000/k10011863851000.html

>>21072555
Yea using a dictionary is cheating, if you don't comprehend each word naturally you need to go back to immersion listening only.

reminder お前pussyじゃん

>>21072666
I'm not talking to myself, I'm talking to my waifu.

>>21072735
The english word pussy is a colloquialism originally referring to the behavior of a domestic cat compared to a wild one in reference to a womans alure

Therefore the characters you've chosen to translate this word only further obfuscate its meaning taking you further away from the focus and appreciation on the pleasure that it would be giving you in this context as such the distorted meaning results in a character that when shove together May resemble something similar to the definition of the word Cat and Its mystical nature in Hindu and Buddhist religions so afterall I commend you on this translation

>>21072746

>>21072754
腐った女のpussyじゃん

>>21072123
lol should make this the next op

why is tae kim's guide so shit? he wouldn't be able to explain all that stuff well if his life depended on it

no one should make anything the next op

just dont make it

>>21072865
only brainlets think a grammar guide is to teach grammar. it is to just get you used to the structure of the language before reading. reading and watching raw anime is what teaches you the language.

am i the only one who was OK with tae kim's guide and just read more

>>21072746
sadako is my waifu

I don't even remember how I learnt grammar. I never read TK, just some shitty textbook that didn't even teach until N5 and then I did shit on the internet and I know most grammar up to N3

>>21072865
Because it's 100% descriptive. This is someone who thinks that が can mark objects, simply because that's the way many sentences translate into English.

I've only seen pseudo-intellectual linguists criticize Tae Kim over irrelevant details.

>>21072916
可愛いし　優しくしてくれるし

俺の大切姫様

>>21072915
No I did fine with it too, I skimmed it for a few hours each day for like 4 days and it boosted the hell out my shit. But still the true red pill of grammar is The Dictionary of Japanese Grammar.

>>21072945
I went through DoJG and memorized the english definition for every word/phrase but didn't read all the detailed breakdowns. Is that bad.

>>21072952
I did the exact opposite, I skimmed the english and read the japanese patterns till they clicked.

>>21069368
I don't like posting on /djt/ but I'm stumped and this seems like a riddle for the ages.
I don't know what kanji this is,and there's not fucking way of figuring it out unless you know what could b e there from context and know its general shape,just look at it,it's a disgusting pile of pixels.Pleaase if anyone knows.

>>21072938
Pseudo-intellectual armchaic linguists, you mean.

There's a lot to criticize Tae Kim for, but the people who use its problems to argue in favor of textbooks, which have WORSE problems, are pretty fucking crazy.

>>21072915
Perfectly fine. However I didn't even make it all the way through. Only later did I come back to look at specific parts here and there again.

Not sure what mystical grammar resource people are hoping for in general. You don't really learn grammar from a book anyways. At best it can give you a hint to parse sentences.

>>21072958
艦

>>21072958
艦

>>21072967
>>21072968
Thanks hivemind,gonna go back to translating porn now.

>>21072958
Actually pretty easy one, it's in the joyo and rtk.

>>21072979
stop translating shit if you cant even read lol

>>21072915
about a year ago when i started reading i found tae kims guide useful for clearing up some confusing structrues like なきゃいけない and the whole られる/させる business. i never read a full grammar guide as most grammar is self explanatory but its guide helped me with those so i thing it should be fine. And now my grammar knowledge is pretty much perfect and the only pitfalls are in more obscure words.

>>21072979
yikes

u know language is not only about words and grammar, how word combinations can mean different things is also really hard to understand

like "頭がいい" is one of the simplest examples, but if you don't already know it means smart connecting "good and head" is probably not easy.

tldr? read more

(not a) daily reminder: do your card reps as early as you can to ensure (or at least better the chance) that you'll do your anki reps you need to. it's best to do it first thing in the morning if you have the time, and I'm sure most of you neets have the time. If not, do them when you have 5 or 10 minutes to spare

>>21073031
I've been doing anki first thing in the morning for almost a year now and it's thanks to anki and learning Japanese that my sleep schedule as a NEET has been consistently good.

>>21073022
wow ur really smart dude

>>21073031
I just dropped anki after 6k words and 7.5 months. It's been pretty nice the past 4 days. I might restart someday but for now full immersion feels like heaven and I'm putting the knowledge I have to use.

Does anyone have a link to the pitch accent anki deck advertised on Dogen's patreon? It was referred to as, "Neeson Champion's updated pitch-accent ANKI deck"

Can someone link me the latest edition of RTK. I know it's not popular around here but i just want to check it out.

>>21073022
当たり前のこと。That aside, a similar expression to 頭がいい I like which I recently learned is 尻が重い

Since the subreddit has yet to do this, I decided to abandon sanity and see how far I can go without running to Google. Silver lining, managed to mine some new words I probably should've known already.

兵庫県宝塚市にある宝塚音楽学校は、女優や歌手を育てる女性だけの学校です。バレエや音楽などを２年勉強して、舞台では女性が男性の役もします。卒業した人の中には有名な人がたくさんいて、入学するのがとても難しい学校です。
>Located in the Hyougo prefecture, the Takarazuka Music School is a female only school that trains its students in the arts of acting and singing. They study ballet and music for two years while imitating the man's role on the stage. With many famous people among the graduates, it is a very difficult school to enter.

２８日、入学の試験に合格した人の発表がありました。学校によると、今年は９１５人が試験を受けて４０人が合格しました。合格した人の番号を書いた紙の前では、自分の番号を見つけた人たちがうれしくて泣いたり、写真を撮ったりしていました。
>On the 28th, those who passed the entrance exam were announced. According to the school, among the 915 who took the exam this year, 40 have passed. [not confident enough to put the rest into proper words; the ones who passed took pictures and cried happily when they saw their ID numbers written on what I assume was a bulletin board)

合格した１７歳の女性は「夢のようです。将来はかっこいい男性の役をしたいです」と話していました。
>A 17 year old girl who passed said "It's like a dream. I want to find a cool guy in the near future."

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/k10011863921000/k10011863921000.html

>>21073050
i quite anki july 2018 after ~3k words and it was a little wierd at first but I have never made as much progress as after that decision and never plan on going back. Plus I am much happier and read much more, but that more has to do with getting a kindle in september.

>>21073059
http://www.mediafire.com/file/r553yl4ccztrf0d/Remembering+the+Kanji+%28Volume+1%2C+6th+Edition%29.pdf

>>21073022
grammar is bullshit it's all just words

>>21073050
Nice. I can't wait till I get to that point. I'm still on RTK but in a month I'll finally be on to mining my own sentences. I'm still immersing every day though so it's not completely boring.

>>21073069
>>21073050
Assuming there's no way to freeze decks, doesn't the impending card buildup scare you? Kinda does for me.

>>21073069
Yea not joining the kindle cult, but I'm reading more

>the kindle cult
actually braindead

>Kindle is necessary to read derp

>>21073074
thank you aniki. Does amazon sell the same edition paperback style?. I saw a couple outdated ones on there?

>>21073087
i bought the same one paper back yes

>>21073077
dude it has been almost 9 months, im not going back. plus i have learned the truth on how useless anki was to begin with. I remember words much more easily now than when i used anki by a large factor. plus i got an email from anki saying they deleted my account due to inactivity.

>>21073086
who are you quoting?

I'm at about 2k words in anki, and I possibly know 3k+ words since there's words I recognize while reading that I've never put into anki, but I can't see why I should drop anki. It helps me remember readings in particular and since I just finished a premade deck my review time is going to drop to like 5 minutes a day.

>>21073101
probably a kid with autism

i still cant believe he died it all happened so fast

>>21073078
e-ink is great dude, plus book piracy is a lot easier when you have hardware for it, plus he DJT library is already kindle ready, plus you can take it anywhere unlike my desktop tower. They're great dude, don't underestimate. Hardware built with one purpose in mind is usually nicer than swiss army hardware.

Hey kindle fags I found you a book

>>21073094
Call me autistic but I don't like those particular numbers going so high after missing just one day.

>Heh I learned more by reading 12 hours a day than using anki for 20 minutes.
Wow, what a great argument. Readtards are so fucking dumb. I'm convinced these people are just obsessed with humble bragging about how more interesting they find Japanese media to be than others such that they can tolerate reading that garbage all day. Their "advice" is N/A to literally 99.9% of learners.

>>21073136
kindle dictionaries suck absolute dick compared to yomichan/ loaded with E-J and J-J dics. it's so much faster to just read in a browser

>>21073102
I think the main potential dilemma is time with anki vs input time. Depending on the size of your deck, the time it takes to complete your daily reps can get pretty ridiculous. At some point you have to start questioning if that time would be better spent just getting normal input. And not only that, but anki potentially cuts into the rest of your daily activities. So if anki isn't too time-consuming, then go ahead and reap the benefits, but it's something you wanna think about.

>>21073022
一昨日来やがれ

>>21073147
99.9% of learners are fucking dekinai ankidrones

>>21073149
>the time it takes to complete your daily reps can get pretty ridiculous
That's really easy to manage. In fact I already suspend most cards with intervals over 2 months long.

>>21073148
i get what you're saying but you can add dictionaries to kindle I added like 5 to mine. I don't really use my kindle for that though it's a recreational reading tool not a learning one for me anyway.

>>21073147
>readtards
Like one of the best polyglots in existence? Find great polyglots using srs. They all read and listen 99%.

>>21073152
No that's more like 97%. The remaining 2.9% are people who use anki AND read and destroy every DJTer (Nick, Matt, Ben, Patrick, BritvsJapan, etc.).

ur allowed to use and make flashcards for a combined maximum of 10 mins per day

any more and u wont learn japanese

>>21073093
Did you need to switch up some keywords or did you stick with what was written?

>>21073148
that is why you need to add your own, https://github.com/jrfonseca/jmdict-kindle

>>21073141
i love it and it makes reading e-books an absolute pleasure so your loss bro

>>21073145
I have not even looked at anki since quitting so that is not really a problem.

>>21073173
this
use anki if you feel like it because it might help

>>21073166
nick = i wanna see more from him he looks legit
matt = trash but doesnt wanna go home emptyhanded so he started a cult to fill the nihongo shaped void in his heart with a small amount of money
ben = who ?
patrick = literal who ?
brit = shit
etc = bring they ass

>>21073161
I need to switch dictionary, oh 5 seconds of loading time, oh I miss clicked the highlight, another 5 seconds, , oh yea this dictionary can't do verbs in that conjugation, anoth 5 seconds, maybe this highlight and this dictionary, Finally! Yea looking up words has never been easier. No thanks.

interesting... so a eceleb talks about kindle and suddenly everyone has a kindle since months and months ago. yet, no one talked about it the past few weeks or months... interesting.

>>21073197
wow dude welcome to modern day advertising it works pretty good when the shill is some1 u really like to watch lol

>imagine thinking 20 year old tech that nobody wanted when it came out was suddenly good because a cult leader low key likes to brag about all of the shit he buys with the money he gets donated for free

>>21073156
It is but then the dilemma becomes forgetting the word. It depends on the word of course, but to a pretty far degree it's hard to guarantee that you'll find the suspended card soon enough in your input to where you wouldn't have forgotten it before it would've been due in anki. It's not a fool-proof plan, it's just about deciding which you value more, your retention rate or your time. I ultimately think suspending them is the right choice though.

>>21073197
Eastern European ancestry? Scottish? Irish? I'm guessing you have one of those, assuming you're white.

>>21073175
for the most part I stuck with what was written but there are kanji whose keywords I ignored outright like the keyword for 私 idk if that's the same as changing a keyword I just felt it wasn't necessary in those cases.

but dont worry ill never sell out im like the dmx of djt

>>21073197
i posted this picture months ago, and their was always been that one picture of the dude with zero no tsukaima, fish oil, etc. kindle is a DJT staple, matt is just a late fag who recently copied us and takes from our library.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly0L4QHFjhs

I'm learning Japanese to understand this.

>>21073211
dude ur legs hairy as shit and no1 wants to see it

>>21073207
wait, what?

>>21073211
oh, sure

>>21073211
i'm so obese that my arm is as big as your legs. i'm gonna die of a heart attack any second

>>21073213
imagine going to a white dudes house and he asks u to take off ur shoes and has guest slippers prepared ftw

anyways, i also have my kindle. wouldnt recommend it for beginners, tho.
nothing beats yomichan (and its variants)

>>21073220
They tend to think more conspiratorially than other western europeans.

m4tt just makes a video titled "more useless shit you brainlets bought me and you need it too to learn japanese"

>>21073211
dude... you're on 4chan. An anonymous image board. I feel like some of you really don't understand how this place works. You're arguing anonymously and for what purpose? To prove that you're right? LOOK I POSTED MY KINDLE MONTHS AGO. No one actually fucking cares because it literally does not matter. That guy is calling out e celeb shills, if you really didn't buy your kindle because of matt then you actually have no reason to reply because he's not talking about you. And what's the point of replying anyway if he is talking to you? To argue with a stranger? Just ignore trolls and b8 and even if they are serious it literally doesn't matter anyway because it's all anons. Just don't reply, who fucking cares? Read your kindle, I love my kindle. I didn't reply to that guy because I don't care and you shouldn't either lol

>>21073213
someone tweet this at matt and ask him if this dude's japanese is any good

>>21073066
So...is anyone gonna check this or not? A bit curious myself.

>>21073238
i just wanted to post the pic again, as I find the comments on my appearance funny. matt b8 was just an excuse. also i don't like matt.

>>21073240
matt here

hes shit compared to me https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD

>>21073248
tldr

>>21073256
I was under the impression that this was a Japanese learning thread.

>>21073218
do you think japanese children will try to pet my legs because of their hairiness? i heard once they do that.

>>21073261
one ur mistaken two i dont fuckin care about ur long ass shit three u post on reddit

i bought a kindle cuz of matt cause i was like heck, why not buy a kindle so i can read books easily

>>21073265
japanese children do not respect anyones space

one of them will pet ur legs while the other kanchos u so far in ur ass that ull have to go to the hospital to get ur stool unimpacted

>>21073250
I had one and didn't like it, but to each his own. I just hate the fags pushing it like it's any sort of necessity because it absolutely is not in any way.

>>21073208
I see, makes sense. Thanks anon.

you guys are just mad because you can't read
calm down and go back to anki lol

honestly i think it owns that ppl have so many stupid handheld electronics and instead of letting their kids go outside to play they just hand them an ipad lmao

>>21073273
gotcha brosephus, i feel the same way about anki, but people talk about anki much more than kindle and i feel kindle >>>>> anki

So anyone have that Dogen pitch accent deck?

>>21073261
oh dear, you couldnt be more wrong

>>21073296
So even would be editors to check amateur translations don't come here? Rather not sign up to Reddit, let alone go there more then I absolutely need to.

>>21073248
idk japanese so...

>>21073066
>合格した１７歳の女性は「夢のようです。将来はかっこいい男性の役をしたいです」と話していました。
a 17 years old girl who passed said " it's a like dream, I would like to play a cool male role in the future"

>合格した人の番号を書いた紙の前では、自分の番号を見つけた人たちがうれしくて泣いたり、写真を撮ったりしていました。
In front of the paper in which passed people name written on, the people who found their number are happily crying and taking pictures.


otherwise your translation is good, I know "In front of the paper in which passed people name written on" is weird, but i'm trying to translate directly to make it easier to process.

yo-si
rabu shoppu he ikouze

>>21073271
today i encountered a lil 2nd grader walking home and he straight up said to me「せっかくだから先生ぎゅーしよっか」
and i felt joy

>>21073273
>I just hate the fags pushing it like it's any sort of necessity
literally no one said that

>>21073321
thats enough outta u were takin u to the police box

>>21073066
>舞台では女性が男性の役もします。
'on the stage the women perform men's roles too'
>合格した人の番号を書いた紙の前では、自分の番号を見つけた人たちがうれしくて泣いたり、写真を撮ったりしていました。
'in front of the billboard [paper] that displayed the ID number of those who passed, there were people laughing, crying, and taking pictures as they found their own numbers'
>将来はかっこいい男性の役をしたいです
'in the future I want to play the role of a cool male'

u really fucked up the last one there... she's talking about her acting career not find a bf wtf

>>21073342
but i don't know any languages besides english or japanese.

my advice? use anki. but be careful i only started learning yesterday.

>>21073354
Maybe you should learn Japanese before trying to translate.

this guy is a disaster

I heard you finally got a backlight on your 6 inch display. That's cute.

>>21073066
the point is stop writing down your english translations just read and see if you understand what the text is trying to tell you
if you are unsure, by all means look at an english version but don't write your own

>>21073354
I asked the question about why kana over kanji once and I got a few responses. So these aren't my answers but these are the answers I was given. 1) some girls do it to be cutesy in some writing. 2) sometimes this is a way to indicate that a child is speaking. The first inn in Bravely Default has an adult that says 大丈夫 and a child that says だいじょうぶ. The Yotsuba kid also doesn't use kanji often.
Basically I took these two answer to mean it's a stylized thing when someone uses Kana over Kanji.

this is a gimmick right this new uppercase guy isnt actually serious right

>>21073437
that dude is the #1 reason to watch 10k hours of eng subbed anime

>>21073415
>>I asked the question about why kana over kanji once and I got a few responses. So these aren't my answers but these are the answers I was given. 1) some girls do it to be cutesy in some writing. 2) sometimes this is a way to indicate that a child is speaking.
That explains the e10 work I'm trying to make sense of then. Miraculously, I knew what Tabitha was saying a for a bit but I'll take >>21073414's advice and not post my musings here.

>>21073433
> imagine carrying a massive tablet for reading
> imagine not being able to read in direct sunlight
> imagine exposing eyes to blue light at night
> imagine having to charge more than once every 2 weeks

i hate tablets, they are not as useful as a actual computer and modern phones are big and powerful enough to cover whatever niche they used to have. a kindle covers a niche, the e-ink looks better than pixels no matter how high res the pixels are, plus they are front lit not back lit. an e-reader is just superior to a tablet for reading, and you are either too young or too old to realize that.

>>21073458
>I'll take >>21073414's advice and not post my musings here.
just to clarify, i'm saying not to write english translations while learning japanese at all

>>21073471
>The small case shitposters are as clueless when it comes to learning Japanese
he's completely right. i'm one of them

when i make it i hope i remember this place

>>21073474
>> imagine carrying a massive tablet for reading
weighs less than a pound
>> imagine not being able to read in direct sunlight
not a thing
>> imagine exposing eyes to blue light at night
you can disable blue light
>> imagine having to charge more than once every 2 weeks
If you use kindle regularly it's about once a week, and desu who cares about charging it's a 2 second thing to plug in a usb c into a tablet every 3 days.

If I ever find myself homeless and stuck reading on the side of the street I'll get a poor-reader.

>>21073494
not only will i remember this place but i'll make it my home to give back to the wonderful regulars here

>>21073471
There have always been people shitposting with the flavor of the month wannabe-troll topic, there have always been people making long posts that say the exact same shit as yours and there have always been people who are smart enough to find what they need and make good use of it. You shouldn't give advice that you yourself are incapable of following.

> 3 months of japanese
> rtk
> about 2.5k words
> adojg basic

up til now, its been a very boring task... is it going to take much longer to read ln, vn..?

>>21073495
this is my last post on this matter,

>not a thing
you can read on a kindle in direct sunlight. that is a fact

>If you use kindle regularly it's about once a week
when i read e-books for at least 2 hours a day the battery lasted at least 2 weeks easily(it helps that i don't need much brightness if i am in my room with a light on, plus the reason it lasts so long is it only requires power to change the screen not hold on a page), now i am only reading it some as i am reading a vn, it lasts like a month.

> poor-reader
the kindle is just superior to a tablet for reading no matter how much you spend on a tablet it will still be worse. and if i need more functionality, i.e. to read a vn, i can use my high end desk top.

>>21073471
hi mawy. still addicted to shitposting?

>>21073534
>>not a thing
>you can read on a kindle in direct sunlight. that is a fact
you can on any mid to hight tier tablet too dumdum

>>21073534
can the e-reader read jpgs

>>21073547
no because jrpgs aren't reading

>>21073337
nah i look young too but my japanese is pretty good and my personality is sweet so they are very kind to me and usually let me take over the class, the kids respect me a lot and often wanna hug, about 4 out of the 8 hours a day im there im chilling and reading my LN or manga unbothered because they know im studyin japanese

dont listen to >>21073342 he has no idea what hes talking about or just got a really bad school or his personality sucks
its actually so full and chill if you get placed in a decent school, are a friendly person and can communicate well in japanese (youll get better as youre there as well). i suggest not a huge city like tokyo though. somewhere more suburbian and chill but also convenient

>>21073552
i was never an alt ive just seen enough of them have such shitty experiences living literally like a 3rd worlder when some of these actual 3rd world countries would be a better place to teach english in

theres literally no sea country worse to teach english in as a complete foreigner than japan period

>>21073517
I finished it in 2 1/2 months. What's this 1.5y bullshit.

>>21073567
3 months for me. Most people can't tolerate how boring RTK is so I virtually never recommend it.

You weren't kidding about crashing and burning...
I guess I really rushed it.
I don't know what to do to get my passion back. I'm at the point where I don't even feel like digesting Japanese media anymore

>>21073546
Only if you want to cook eggs on your tablet lol.

>>21073588
i was about to post the same thing

>>21073588
>>21073591
hes a good guy, youre not

>>21073588
Nah I'm a genki graduate dekinai who got to N4-ish in a month and a half. Now doing RTK

>>21073601
>Now doing RTK
and so it claims another victim

>>21073578
ur problem is u classify it as japanese media as if its something different from the normal shit u consume

only when it stops being that can u move forward with learning nihongo

>>21073584
well come on we all know the first one is actually impossible for everyone and second yah some folks got some shit living arrangements and got paid like shit and they were literally stuck till their time ran out and couldnt do nothin

anyway seriously look into other countries to teach english in ull find the deals are a lot fuckin sweeter most of the time

>>21073598
i'm not claiming i'm a good guy but i don't think there's anything good about people trying to brag about how diligent and serious they are by asking dumb questions like "can i learn 1 billion words a second? haha well i'm gonna try it and report it back to you!"

>>21073587
you really wanna get fucked up don't you.

>>21073587
i only wanna do simple math with cute girls if u know what i mean lol

>>21073614
people learn from trial and error, im sure you have had many learning moments in your life that wouldve been easier if u listened to someone else but you didnt
that didnt make you an idiot just a human... theres also times you didnt listen to someone else and it actually turned out for the best

>>21073633
that's all true we've all been stupid. i'm calling him stupid because it's obviously stupid

>>21073147
yeah but if you don't like japanese then don't learn easy as that.

can ほど mean "just" or "only" instead of "to the extent that" or "the more"?

you learned 2500 words and 2200 kanji in 3 months?
fuck out of here with ur bullshit lmao

>>21073642
yeah i guess you could say that, i just find it more helpful to express it like 'being overly optimistic' or 'acting wreckless' rather than something more judgmental or belittling ('stupid') that suggests theres something wrong with us when theres not

>>21073657
if they want it they are gonna disregard me anyway

its just important to note literally anywhere else on the earth is objectively better to teach english than japan

>>21073677
oh no there's definitely something wrong with him

>>21073657
i mean i have a year till i will go as i am a junior in college.but i have pretty much 100% decided on going, and am more worried about getting the best offer as possible. he was not discouraging and i feel anyone who is aware knows the number one reason people don't like it there is that they don't know japanese which is not a problem for me.

>>21073670
not hard if you use premade decks

>>21073725
you're right im just saying how it's possible

>>21073725
whynotboth.png

>>21073693
i use capture2text and it works pretty great

>when you know the reading but not the meaning

>>21073752
did rtk so it's the opposite

>>21073758
which is worse? knowing the reading but not meaning or vice versa

鬱best kanji

>>21073766
i don't know but that's the ideal situation for making flashcards

low iq - こんちは

mid iq - おはよう御座います

high iq - っふ……よくぞここまでたどり着いたものね……褒ほめてあげるわ

don't forget to erase the furigana next time

Is it bad to put audio on the front and the words on the back as a beginner?

>>21073811
no you'll probably be better off that way

a major fucking nihongo banger, make sure to put on the headphones for this one guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ssgAfQtn4Q

>>21073811
If it's just audio and you want better listening that works pretty good really, if you want to memorize a kanji word it might be ok but I use audio on back only for that because I want to memorize the reading.

>>21073799
最大IQ - おっす

決してしない

>>21071786
Bloated, slow, ugly abandonware with buggy deconjugation.

Back when Rikaisama devs declared they would no longer support Rikaisama following the announcement by Mozilla that they were changing their Firefox addon API, nobody here wanted to switch to Yomichan because it was objectively inferior in every way, but nobody ever took up the mantle of converting Rikaisama to the new API so everybody ended up reluctantly having to switch once support for the old API came to an end. Some even, rather than switching to Yomichan, switched to Firefox ESR just to avoid having to use Yomichan for that bit longer, or even moved to Firefox forks which, while shitty, preserved the old API like Waterfox and FurfagMoon.

I guess if you never used Rikaisama then maybe you can't appreciate how much Yomichan sucks. If Rikaisama were still worked though, nobody would be using Yomichan.

>>21072646
it's a reaction video to the $3,000 headphones he's wearing

>Oh. My. Goodness! My senses feel assaulted … as would my wallet, if I had had to pay for these. With every smack of the snare and blare of a trumpet my eyes wince in pain. Fast transient edges are transformed into indiscriminate micro-bursts of tizz. Likewise, low notes are powerful, but have lost all definition as they are reduced to a bloated blur. The mid-range seems like it could be pretty good, but I hear it as so disconnected from all else that I could hardly keep track of what’s what in the confused aural picture. I’ve heard worse headphones before, but for $2749 these have got to be the worst price/performance headphones I’ve ever experienced.

https://youtu.be/L34S4Tt1EuQ

Apologize...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r4NjebYf7g

>>21073882
Apologize...

https://track9.mixtape.moe/vxmdvb.mp4

How did you guys learn japanese as an individual? I've learned vocabulary in romanji, katakana, then hiragana, and now I'm working on grammar, then lastly kanji

>>21073911
i only learned japanese as a collective

>>21073911
Uhhhhhh. I should stop learning Japanese if I were you.

>>21073911
>romanji

>>21073911
good bait

I want to submit a request to the Japanese Government to simplify their kanji ( the 4 and 5 im having trouble with) I have designed some new kanji for replacement. what do you guys think?

>>21073911
not bad bait, but you can do better

any of you nigs got the translation for this shit?
https://twitter.com/mattvsjapan/status/1111760251928248321?s=20

>>21073942
wouldn't happen. they already use alternative kanji for the first 3 numbers to prevent people from easily changing numbers on documents

>>21073971
Oooh. Is that why they are using those?
I honestly thought that it's just for style.

thankfully nazeka exists now so nobody has to deal with yomichan being bad or shitty outdated browsers

yomichan works fine for me i don't know what you guys are on about

>>21073957
tl;dr nip wrote 容量 instead of 要領, Matt asked for clarification, nip told Matt to get good at Japanese, baka gaijin, then Matt pointed out the mistake the other guy made.

yomichan is extremely slow and very ugly

Just 100 more to go on VN Core!!

>>21074028
nice, you're almost at the point where most people give up when they release they still don't know shit after learning a thousand words

>>21073957
cringe ass niggas talkin and cringe ass niggas commenting on the tweet just cringe ass niggas everywhere

>>21073911
Upgrade your bait anon.

>>21074039
whats cringy about it in ur opinion

>>21074028
i know it seems like an awesome milestone and something you should feel proud of. But I know around 2~3k words and I know nothing. NOTHING.
There isn't a single sentence I can read without having to look up most words.

When you reach at least 4 to 5x this amount, perhaps you will encounter a sentence without words to look up. Perhaps.

swastikas are soo funny lol

>>21074028
what nukige are you reading

>>21073957
>うわ、、怒られそう
cringe
>漢字は笑
I thought he was supposed to be good

>>21074060
Depends what you read. I understood tons of shit at 2k and hit sentences all the time I completely knew.