/jp/ - Otaku Culture

why am i being trolled so hard?

matt is letting his cultists steal our stolen manga and childrens young adult fiction books all the while profiting from it out in open he must be stopped

>>21062212
Acta est Fabula for the porn, Amantes amentes for the short stories or something. Ask someone who knows more than me, like Jamal. Hey Jamal, you here? Help a lost soul out.

Also, some of you might relate, but finishing Genki 2 brought a good amount of bittersweetness with it.
This image I saw posted by /u/ThePwnr really brought a tear to my eye while I was listening to the last Dialogue of Lesson 23. I wish we got some closure for Mary and Takeshi's story smiley face

>>21062218
ur gonna hate my answer i read the original and moved on and didnt give a fuck

i usually recommend the first version of everything cuz thats when its at its most pure level

>recommending incomplete releases
baka I bet you don't play expansions packs for old PC games either

depends on if i think it was worth going back for

haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blpe_sGnnP4

wrong last thread link

dont think its really a problem theyre all shit threads why get particular about them

Hey!

Myself and some friends are trying to learn Japanese, and we were thinking of getting some alphabet fridge magnets, but I can't seem to find any.

We have found round circle ones with the letter on it, but we would prefer the magnet to take the shape of the letter.

If you can help thank you so much!

time for you to put your money where your mouth is.................... motherfuckers!!!
https://japaneselevelup.com/test-your-japanese-might-levels-1-20/

>>21062264
lol if i was making a shitty test like that level 20 would be level 1 smfh

>>21062251
and wrong thread number dude was in a hurry to make a shit op

who cares about the op when the nakami is gomi af lol

>>21062286
laugh all you want but i think it's good that ppl can find out their level because then they can pick somethin appropriate for themselves from this page :/
https://japaneselevelup.com/difficulty-level-guide-everything-japanese/#Manga1

>>21062263

ok i skipped back to where i was, which is apparently 59,000 characters in. only 1.5 million to go

>>21062304
? if u cant pass "level 20" u cant read any of that shit

>>21062264
>Each line either contains RTK keywords
笑う

>>21062307
>mfw he wasn't trolling and he actually started the memebad version unknowingly

>>21062304
but 1 star is lv10-20 so the test is just between "u cant read yet" and 2 star lol

Matt has shown you the way
All you have to do is walk it

can u get to lvl 99 tho?

https://japaneselevelup.com/test-your-japanese-might-final-stage/

>>21062213
I HATE HATE HATE HATE WHen our COLLECTIVE AUTISAM GETS EXPLOITED BY NORMALNIGGERS FUCKING TRASH .I HOPE MATT GETS HIT BY A CAR AND DIES> REAPING ALL THE BENEFITS FROM OTHER PEOPLE WORK AND USING IT FOR PERSONAL GAIN ABSOLUTE JEW DISGUSTING> I WILL REPORT HIM EVEN IF IT DOESN:T DO ANYTHING

>>21062307
Good job getting back on track man. Here's hoping you make it through and understand the plot properly.

>>21062227
In this case the first version is an unfinished product with input from a bunch of other writers. Hardly "pure".

>>21062340
>The difference between the top two tiers is near impossible for me to test to any great accuracy.
he doesnt even believe in his made up power levels

Outsiders stealing our secret stash .

I know nobody here cares but I just read an entire chapter of yotsuba without having to look up any words and it was really nice. it's the small victories friends

>>21062340
lolled @ level 80

apparently u have to be sophisticated to read an instruction manual or wikipedia or encyclopedia

id call the 99 level baseline fluent

>>21062350
but matt isnt a normie, he hasnt had a gf even
he might get one once get earns big money of patreon tho

>>21062367
Glad for you annon. Maybe your steady progress will eventually enrage me enough to get back to reading. THanks for the motivation redditor

>>21062360
hey man thats the visual game world fuckin incomplete trash delays more delays more incomplete trash all with a 9k yen pricetag every time

u cant blame some1 for playing the thing and not wanting to play the thing again with the promise of oh its def better this time trust me

>>21062360
>In this case the first version is an unfinished product with input from a bunch of other writers. Hardly "pure".

>Also sprach Zarathustra contains only Kasumi and Marie's routes. Furthermore, the VN's writer got writer's block during development, so a bunch of hacks were hired to finish it for him. The result is supposedly a total mess.
>Also sprach Zarathustra ~Die Wiederkunft~ is a rewritten version of the original.

seems like the die wiederkunft version isnt actually that bad?

>>21062367
fuckin おめー dude

>>21062360
why is there so much love for somethin that needed a fuckin doover lol

>>21062383
>seems like the die wiederkunft version isnt actually that bad?
You could say it's better but it still lacks the bulk of what people expect from Dies irae (i.e. multiple routes)

>>21062393
Cuz of the same reason you can't tear your eyes from a train wreck. It's the spice of life

japan is just a country of scammers honestly almost as bad as china

i can tell that reading an hour or two a day will just not cut it and i'll have to multiply that by 2 to get anywhere

this is what we're here for!

>>21062415
It depends how much you read . I decided to not write dumbass because my capcha pass was running out but just when i wantedto post it it came back so here you have it DUMBASS

>>21062412
korea is better than those two

>>21062419
i think it's easy to infer how much i'm reading within those 1 to 2 hours since i'm complaining about slow progress.

>>21062417
thats some boring underwear dude

korea's only cultural export that's worth anything is kpop, but kpop is just some boring music so it's not actually worth shit. china doesn't produce shit either. japan produces lots of stories that make you feel things. so japan is the best.

it makes sense when you think about it. they were the first non-western country to industrialize, and they did it of their own accord after getting slapped by american cock. they're just inherently better than other east asians. god bless the japanese.

>>21062436
the big lol here is when u realize the "stories" japan produces are all just rehashes of the same shit done to death already u just came late to the game and will realize it soon enough
LOL

>>21062434

>>21062441
if ur already jackin off to the art ur prob never goin back either way

>>21062445
u dont gotta tell me twice 抹消するs the entire game cuz its bad LOL

>>21062464
why you so mad bro calm down and lets enjoy the thread in a chill way

>>21062466
im nonbiri af dude just cuz i might use sharp language doesnt mean im not lolling all the time in a chill way

>>21062441
>the same shit done to death
of course. they're asians. but japan can at rehash stories with interesting spins, whereas other east countries don't produce any media like that whatsoever.

wheres miyachi when u need him

𠮟・叱
out of all the non-standardised kanji shit and other MEXT shortcomings, this one angers me the most

good thing matt linked the wrong library or he might have gotten the good one taken down

did anyone bother with creating separate anki entries for, or even studying 異体字?

禅・禪 for example

>>21062545
nah maybe you should though

>難しくありませんのだ。
Is this a grammatically correct sentence?

>>21062264
>Meeting (かい社)
what did he mean by this

>>21062617
you shouldn't be producing until the 3rd year of your studies fool

>>21062636
the かい is 解 as in 理解 or 新明解

or seriously, he can't put あう there, can he?

After finishing my first VN in Japanese (which was also the first native material I'd ever read in Japanese), Flyable Heart, I went on to try reading Kira Kira and was extremely disheartened to find how much of a struggle it was for me and how little of it I was able to understand. By the end of Flyable Heart, I was understanding quite a lot and not having much trouble at all with most lines, but when I tried reading Kira Kira it felt like I was all the way back at square one having made no progress at all. I ended up giving up on it after a few days because it was just too difficult for me.

A year has passed since then and I've decided to give Kira Kira another go as a means of testing my progress, and I can confidently say that all the reading I've done in the last year has definitely paid off. I remember when I tried reading the introduction to Kira Kira on my first attempt I could barely understand anything and was sat there reading lines over and over again trying to make sense of them (mostly in vain), whereas this time I was able to read straight through all the lines (with the help of ITHVNR + Nazeka and its built-in reader, of course) and understand them all no problem on the first pass.

Feels good, man. For anyone else who feels like things are going slow and they're not progressing much, go back and try reading something that you read a long time ago and struggled with and you'll see the fruits of your labor.

Anyway, my biggest weakness now definitely seems to be my vocabulary. It's really bottlenecking my reading speed and comprehension, but every time I try starting an Anki deck in hopes of improving the situation, it just ends up having a negative impact on my learning (makes me procrastinate because it's boring) and I usually end up dropping it after a week or two. Any thoughts/advice on what I can do about this?

congrats kasumi very happy for u : )

>>21062677
>Feels good, man. For anyone else who feels like things are going slow and they're not progressing much, go back and try reading something that you read a long time ago and struggled with and you'll see the fruits of your labor.
no i don't wanna

welcome to djt

>>21062677
Start a mining deck if you haven't already and focus exclusively on using Anki for words that seem unreasonably simple and important for how poorly you understand them. If you only add like five or ten cards a day, it shouldn't cause you to procrastinate. At any rate, as long as you keep reading extensively, you'll continue to build a stronger vocabulary, so you don't have to worry about the long term.

>>21062761
i thought エディ was missin an arm

>>21062761
source pls

>>21062801
its called get ready this is a *snorts* mouthful 女性専用シェアハウスがデカマラ黒人男性だらけに～女は私、一人だけ～

todays nihong kotaba of the day is
>デカマラ

someone should make a deck of all these wacky eromanga/jav/doujin names and upload it to ankiweb

that's actually a good idea.

How can I look up kanji in physical media? Is there an AI app you can recommend?

>>21062826
yeah we could do panel on the front (with furigana added) and then eng subbed version on back (these DO have english versions available right?)

>>21062836
just guess the reading

>>21062843
I cant

>>21062848
u have to look em up in a kanji dictionary just like us good old boys did

>>21062836
the risk of text hooking and ocr is u become unable to cope with anything slower

they meant literally just the names not the contents

ヤバい！！！俺の妹は今夜薬を飲みすぎてからスゴいむらむらとしている態度をとっていて俺の部屋に来てノーパン見せておかしくなった件

>>21062836
Google Translator can guess the meaning of most kanji, but it does get somewhat annoying to have to input a stroke and go back to it several times. Your second option would be to break each kanji down by its radicals, and to look the words up on a radical-based dictionary.

>>21062841
actually most don't i believe

and many of them have rare words/kanji which is cool

they don't have any english translation potential

i was thinking of J-J cards with i+1 (pixiv) dictionary entries etc.

>>21062854
You can't be serious? How are they even sorted? Do you need to learn something stupid beforehand? Like RTK or some other time wasting sink?

If nothing exists, I can train my own AI and share it with you. This can't be happening. Could you give me some hints where I could find a huge list with all the kanji and their readings? I suppose then I could simply train the AI with different fonts and it should work out.

>>21062880
thanks this is better already, but still way too slow. I want to scan with a camera over some text and extract all kanji and their meaning instantly.

if you're reading something where you have obscure kanji and you don't know how to do it

what you're reading might just be way over your head

>>21062888
i am serious but if u can use a computer u can just look up by rad or draw if ur good enough to do that quick and proper

just use an OCR retard

and if it's physical media the google translate app has a built-in instant OCR

>>21062888
https://github.com/cjkvi/cjkvi-ids/blob/master/ids.txt
>and their readings
the joyo kanji list prescribes certain readings for the joyo kanji but in reality kanji can be read LITERALLY HOWEVER THE FUCKthe writer wanst them to be read. I could write 我（ぼく） if I wanted and nobody would object, just chuckle.

>>21062895
I certainly am, but how am I supposed to learn when I only have a book and cellphone at hand. I can't spend a week on looking up a single kanji or word.

>>21062888
a kangxi has a radical which was invented to know where to look in ur dic
but with electro dics u can look choose any element that is in the kangxi instead of the real deal radical

and i mean the phone app, not the website obviously

it has a camera mode where it instantly translates stuff and superimposes the translation on the image

>>21062910
ull get better at it the more u do it dont be a whiny baby

Two computers. One with outdated Firefox and the other with Quantum. Obviously Yomichan only works with the latter so I use that to quickly add new words (with audio) to my mining deck. Now I do sync between the two PCs but I must know this. If I make this new deck with Yomichan added cards on one PC and sync it to the other, will its cards also have audio?

Sorry if this sounds complicated. Basically, I want to know if the audio will sync from one PC to the other.

>>21062910
have you tried downloading the stuff you're reading from nyaa in the aozora bunko format and copying what you need to look up from there?

>>21062916
this sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. Will try this out, thank you. It so easy to do, it would have been a surprise if something like this didn't exist.

>>21062923
No but I really prefer physical books and it would be a pain to look things up manually from an ebook or something.

kids these days

matt's videos spurred me to buy a kindle cause ive been thinking about it for a while. its weird what viral marketing does to the brain

>>21062888
why do noobs who can't even figure out how to draw or look up words think they know what's a waste of time

>>21062954
i have one but reading in a browser with hover dictionary is much better imo
kindle lookups are kinda slow and you can't create anki cards on the fly
i guess it wouldn't bother you if you're good enough so that you barely ever have to look something up, the actual reading experience itself on a kindle is nice

>>21062910
and this is exactly why you should use a text-based novel (or, in case of a vn, one that is text-hookable) first

>>21062983
if he was "good enough" he wouldn't be here. just saying

璽

>>21063055
>璽
whats the matter, dude? its on rtk 1 even

痔

>>21063070
>痔
rtk 3

>>21062983
>>21063007
lol yea i dont use a dictionary very often. u know it's possible to look at this thread and not suck at japanese? i find the eceleb shit entertaining

>>21063084
i thought we were sharin jis

>>21063085
from my understanding, everyone here sucks. but there are two types of suckers.
the one willing to learn, and those who post about ecelebs (or laugh at those posts)
im the former

>>21063100
if u dont laugh at ecelebs u cant make it sry to say
u need to relax ur asshole a bit to learn nihongo

米国を再び偉大に

>>21063069
nothing, i get it right every time

>>21063069
wait what? i dont remember doing that character wtf

>>21063100
when i post in djt its more like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWqm6av_MCQ#t=62

>>21063111
I really do not enjoy this kind of "joke", if we can call it this.
Im not even interested in gossip about people I know, let alone ecelebs that I couldn't care less. I just want to learn and, from time to time, there are relevant posts in here. Less than 1 per day, unfortunately.

>>21063123
perhaps it wasnt on the previous version of rtk and was added only on the sixth

can you write the hardest joyo (鬱)

>>21063142
this brings back memories. thanks

>>21063156
something something wolverine

>>21063156
>鬱
i cant even write kana lol perhaps a couple of kana and a couple of kanji. but thats all

>>21062954
I'm probably getting one too now because of matt. I read a lot and if the screen is so good like everybody says it's definitely worth it.

>>21063172
"good like everybody says"
and still you waited for an youtuber to recommend it. interesting. it says a lot about you

LOL can relate

>>21063156
yes but i can only write a few kana. thanks rtk.

>>21063180
Too be fair, those "everybody" are just random 4chan post. I trust my buddy matt.

take cover hes here again

>>21063203
to be fair it wasnt a necessity until it was recommended by a native vetted pro as immersion gear now u gotta show up that u aint no punk bitch when it comes to ur japanese

if i gotta waste a thousand dollars ill gladly waste a thousand dollars for my education

only an asian could say some shit like that

>>21063100
i dont suck, i fuckin rule, because i'm actually spending time reading nihongo unlike 99% of the ppl itt

>>21063227
idk what you're comparing it to, but i completely agree with you. theres no money better spent than with education

me (future fluent): bought a 50$ tablet dedicated to reading manga jpgs
you (destined for failure): buys a 300$ kindle and messes around with dictionary apps

>>21063241
well, if you 'fucking rule', I'm sure you dont waste your time with eceleb talk. Congrats

me: reads everything on desktop

>>21063241
i already had my days of reading nihongo shit 99% of the time now i just get to have fun stunting on retards and shootin the shit all day ftw

>>21063254
respectable but i'm trying the "make it fun by laying down on a recliner" method

>>21063250
Where the fuck is a kindle 300$?

>>21063262
if u dont have a weird cramped desktop setup with a crt monitor literally on ur bed and a keyboard in ur lap while using a trackball mouse u aint fuckin real ninja material

>>21063251
at times like these, you don't have to enunciate the "g" so much. you can just say "fuckin"

>>21063266
i looked up the one matt has (kindle oasis) which are 250+

fuckning ?

zengning?

>>21063266
did u buy the poor mans kindle that isnt even waterproof
>>21063272
i was with u until u talked about thumbin balls

>>21063294
u cant use a mouse with a ball on the bottom on a fuckin sheet and mattress dude that shits impossible

>>21063294
I don't have a kindle yet (just some cheap off-brand thingy that doesn't have a jap dictionary) but I don't need a waterproof ebook reader dude. Just keep that thing away from water, it's not that hard to not read in the shower.

cant MIA if youre not duel wielding with a triple bypass in the shower on eight different audio channels

ok u gotta stfu fagot 1st of all aint no1 here showerin capiche

pirates... surely there are thousands of public domain, fan, aspirant, and promotional books floating around for free just like in English, why steal?

I mean, I get DeDRM so you can use the thing you've already bought without having to switch accounts etc. But at least you're contributing something to the creator for their work (based on whatever contract they've signed with the publisher).

matt getting btfo by /r/learnjapanese

>>21063346
public domain japanese writing is usually pretty old-timey
people should just use narou though

matt "mattvsjapan" bonder is a fuckin retard

>>21062677
are you the guy who used to post updates on your flyable heart read through? how much have you read since then?

>>21063314
get urself a big hard plastic mousepad or a big board or somethin
the only balls that should be near mice are the kind u pop out and suck on to clean
wait can u fit a trackball in ur mouth ive never had one

>>21063386
u never even had a trackball and u fuckin hatin on that shit

those were the most ftw mouse when space was a concern it was like a remote control that u controlled ur mouse with its so good

>>21063346
>surely there are thousands of public domain, fan, aspirant, and promotional books floating around for free just like in English
have fun reading that shit lmao

>>21063400
i should try one sometime so i can say i have
but i bet it aint as satisfyin without all the packed lint and shit to scrape out of there

>>21063152
>perhaps it wasnt on the previous version of rtk and was added only on the sixth
it was #2075 on RTK Vol. 3 (2nd edition) prior to the 6th edition

>>21063472
i guess nowadays u could just use a videogame controller thumb stick to control ur mouse and get the same effect tho

sad times

>>21063496
thats gotta be worse
what if someone made a controller with touchpads on it that no one used for games

>>21063516
lol touchpads are aids tho i hate that shit

>>21063528
thumb touchpad has gotta be better than a joystick mouse is all im sayin

Matt theory

are the japanese from zero books any good, i've only got the genki ones??

i have heard about them before, but i saw they were made by a gaijin so i discarded it as hot garbage, but maybe they are a decent read?

15 past midnight. Time to pray for matt and some nihongo gains. If mods were based and added a word filter, what would 'matt' change into?

>>21063562
there are no good grammar textbooks. if you're confused about grammar google it.

>>21063593
i know that, but it could be worthwhile to read if you get tired of doing anki for hours, no?

>>21063606
no, and why are you doing anki for fucking hours just start reading

I finally found a LN to read that doesn't kill me and I actually feel like I'm learning something I'm so happy (I'm reading GOSICK if anyone wants to try something a bit easier than the normal LN)

>>21063585
god

Dawg... You can still buy a trackball. That isn't lost to the past.

show me a middle of the road trackball they make nowadays that isnt expensive as hell tho

>>21063642
steam controller :^)

are you excited for the 新元号 announcement?

>>21063663
no1 should buy a steam controller ever in lfie i think

>>21063665
i hope they call it ゲイ

M.A.T.T

cried once cuz i felt the realization that i am going to be fluent

>>21063700
cringe

>>21063711
pretty cringey maybe but not as much as saying cringe on the internet

苦しいですね

>>21063675
ゲイ成

Noob here. What does the　しね　mean after the いる　at the end of this sentence? Based on the basics of grammar I read, I would have expected いる　or います　to be at the end:
日本動画協会にいるしね。

>>21063808
maybe reasonal si + emotional ne?

>>21063808
i don't know nihongo but without any context what i think is going on here is:
日本動画協会(に)(いる)(し)ね。
more context might help us help you though.

SI SI SI SI SI

sen~or

>>21063808
They are both sentence end particles (two separate ones), check Tae Kim or something.

>>21063808
し - explanatory ending particle used when you're making a point
ね - the speaker is seeking agreement, much like ending a sentence with "right?" in english. extremely common as in ですね

>>21062651
or 解禁
or 解説
or 解決

>>21063834
Ahh, that reminds me I forgot about the grammar glossary in this thread's guide. Thanks
>>21063837
I have studied ね but the し threw me off. Thanks

清水の舞台から飛び下りる

Help. What the heck does this mean? I know いいから means something like "anyway" but I don't understand the rest.

>>21062677
Build a better faculty of concentration. Doing anki cards isn't boring in itself. Plenty of people don't have problem, or little problem, doing them.

>>21063855
The road is bad so watch out

>>21063821
dont put particles by themselves

>>21063864
the only way i'll shut up is with a dick in my mouth so what's it gonna be big boy

>>21063860
Can you explain and break down each piece, please?

>>21063870
i didnt tell u to shut up i was helping u why r u freaking out @ me ??

>>21063870
dudes just tryin to help u

@_@

try to give that dude a lil tip and he starts goin all crazy on me like the classic heart banger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZuW6BH_Vak#t=123

>>21063878
>>21063873
im just trying to get some dick out here desu

>>21063872
Sorry but you better ask somebody else as I do not know japanese.

>>21063855
気を付けな
道が悪いから

>>21063872
its literally broken down and in pieces in the word bubble can u do something with it to show me ur awake and conscious

>>21063902
cut him some slack its slightly harder than yotubato

no fuckin breaks dude none u gotta show up if u want it aint no one gonna give it to u 4 free

>>21063902
I look up わりい and can't find anything. Same with 気いつけ. Maybe I'm splitting them up wrong

>>21063916
Someone hasn't watched enough anime.

>>21063808
死ね

>>21063916
if u read yotubato ud know that sometimes u gotta use ur thousands of hours of anime experience to unslur some speech

>>21063916
i didnt even think about how they are slurred or w.e at first glance so i guess it was a fair question in the first place

anyway first is わるい second can be best explained thru this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcujQwmEcl0#t=24

>>21063916
Try to make a full J-J transition. Your question can be quickly answered using www.weblio.jp.

>>21063928
Ha, I'm not such a noob that don't know what that means, ばか

post smug 69 plz

>>21063941
That's actually the 18th, but it's a typo I didn't bother to fix. So no 69 yet

Ive been lurking for a while now, and now I have a question.
How long is core 10k supposed to take?

>>21063951
that is BULlsHIt post 69 NOw

剛直 doesn't mean 'iron will' guys.

todays nihongo word of the day is 合意情死

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>>21063965
I missed you

i was always here figuratively and literally

>>21063953
>>21063969

>>21063953
don't do core 10k

>>21063978
What about core 2k/6k

>>21063994
Do 3k. No more no less.

>>21063999
you don't know japanese

the only proper way to use core10k is ~~not to use core10k~~afte you've finished core2k, you can use the voiced sentences as a supplement for sentence mining in the wild/subs2srs, and sort it with morphman

>>21063994
>>21063999
Wait, I'm not supposed to take advice from /djt/. Lalala not listening

>>21064008
Have you reached 2k?


>>21063999
Have you reached 3k?


>>21063978
where did you get your first couple hundred words?

do core 1k and then start mining with subs2srs and morphman + frequency list.

Waiting for his response

word on the street is vncore1250 or we is the new hot get started pack
i endorse it just cuz u cant use it forever

>>21064030
>Have you reached 2k?
yes, on the core 2k/6k deck

>>21064043
>>21061486

>>21064052
and how long did it take you?

>>21063955
>>21063969

>>21064083
those are both my posts

>>21063808
members of japanese movie association, die

>>21064076
i learned 2000 words in 25 days

then i stopped learning new kanji and just did reviews for almost 2 weeks

more than that i can't tell you because i started learning japanese 38 days ago lol

Almost there! Fuck grammar!!

>>21064043
lol well done cumbag

>>21063855
they're slurring it, it's like when you see 勉強したくねぇ or ったく or whatever, so if you don't already know the words involved it'll probably throw you off

>ま、いいからよ (well anyways)
>気をつけなよ (you should be careful)
>道が悪いからよ (cause the road's bad)

>>21064089
You can't fool me dummy, I know that kana doesn't have a one-to-one relationship with kanji

>>21064092
At this speed of almost 100 words per day, wouldn't it be better to keep up to 10k?

Btw,thats all I needed to know when I asked how long core 10k is supposed to take. Thanks

>>21064043
Can't wait for YouTube to start taking down videos that advocate piracy!

https://twitter.com/JoeHilgard/status/1110618471921004545

this does not reflect kindly on people who push mindfulness meditation. people's testimonies made me consider it but now...

>>21064101
頑張れｗｗ

>>21064092
>2k words in 25 days
There's no way this is true unless you have a near photographic memory

>>21064094
Have you tried reading anything yet?

>>21064101
no that would be an incredibly bad idea

even doing what i did would be an incredibly bad idea

if you do it and quit after you get 500 reps/day and fail half of the new words you learned (which would get you the 90% retention rate which anki aims to deliver) don't blame me or the method

>>21064104
good work cumbag

>>21064118
He probably went through the deck in 25 days with sub 75% retention.

i read that heisig did 2200 kanji in like a month doing it for over 10 hours a day

>>21064122
It's completely possible. It took me 2 hours yesterday to learn 195 words. And 1 hour today to review those of yesterday (91% retention) + 88 for today

>>21064130
one day?

>>21064118
here you go

>>21064143
What do you mean?
Yesterday - 195 new words - 2hrs
Today - 88 new words - 1hr

>>21064043
man you showed him

>come check out my patreon and spend all that money you're not spending on books over there
now that's a good quote

>>21062783
Sounds like that could work. Might give it a go.

>>21063365
I'm not sure that I'm the person you're thinking of, but I might be. I did post about Flyable Heart from time to time when I was reading it.

As for how much I've read since then, in terms of visual novels that I've read to 100% completion (i.e. where I've cleared all routes), I think that number comes to a measly 3 (Flyable Heart included), but there have been more VNs which I've read partially and never completely finished due to losing interest in them (or never really enjoying them much in the first place, where I just kept reading in hopes that they would get better). Counting those VNs which I've fully completed or at least read a substantial amount of, the number comes to 9 I think (again, inc. FH).

Not really a number I'm proud of. I know I could've read a lot more by now, but losing focus and interest at various points along the way and taking breaks away from Japanese as a result has cost me about 5 months of lost time where I could've been reading stuff but wasn't. There's also the problem that the amount of time I invest in Japanese is strongly tied to how much I'm enjoying what I'm reading, so say I'm at a particularly boring part of a particular VN and I'm not having fun reading it (or maybe the VN itself is just boring), there's a good chance I'm only spending maybe an hour or less on it a day, and I seem to have an extraordinary affinity for choosing boring VNs to read.

できないのできなさはちゃんとあって

>>21064043
Assuming he prohibited it for ethical reasons the hypocrisy kinda bothers me but we all have our hypocrisies. No big deal. Still a good guy overall trying to make it in this world.

>>21064145
Assuming you did it authentically then good for you, but I highly doubt that 99.9999% of people could do it this fast, nor should they ever expect to

>>21064145
I sincerely don't understand these results. Are you clicking 3 more than you should?

>>21064145
i wouldnt have the guts to show my anki. im embarassed for all the missing days and some huge again count lol

>>21064043

>>21064126
it took me 54 hours (over 37 days) to learn 1800 kanji so far

i've sped the process up several times

i started with 40 kanji a day, lifted it up to 50 for nice even numbers, fucked it up after 20 days because i got really drunk after doing my reviews but before learning new kanji and got nausea/short term memory loss which led me to only learning 13 that day

then i started doing 63 per day and if i keep this pace i'll finish rtk 3 in 20 days

it's only 2.5 hours a day and i expect it will rice to 3-3.5/day eventually

and then it will suddenly drop to 1.5 hours and eventually to 10 minutes a day

>>21064167
no one should do it

that's how people with not enough dedication get overwhelmed and quit

i have a goal and a deadline

and when i have deadlines i can do anything

>>21064168
i only have Again and Good enabled

instead of resetting on Again, the interval drops to 70%

also no ease reduction on Again and an interval modifier of 150%

>>21064190
does this setting works for ankidroid?? if yes, teach me sensei

why the fuck can't I type 強姦 with Google IME?

why the fuck can't i type the words i add to google IME

i wish i was a neet and could study runes for 10+ hours a day

wage cuck life sucks

>>21064204
>>21064204
You can't 巉巌 tho

ビッグブラザーとドミネーターのちがいをのべなさい

>>21064185
eh i've recently graduated from university and i've been leaving the NEET lifestyle for the last six months

the only two excuses i had for missing learning new cards (not the reviews though), was stomach flu and getting inebriated abroad and going to sleep early

>>21064201
enable full screen

enable gestures

deactivate all gestures except again and good (they will revealing the back of the card before actually doing anything so there's no need for a dedicated gesture)

the 0.7 interval drop works as it is in both versions of anki

the only thing you can't do on ankidroid is prevent anki from reducing ease by 20% on again

you can reset ease once a day on the pc (or maybe once a week, that's what i do when i'm on vacation) and force sync

イチモツ

>>21064229
It's funny that you answered two of my posts perhaps without realizing it

Sounds like a lot of trouble. Is it really worth it?

Ok some of you ninjas has to explain すぼまり to me.

>>21064229
>the only thing you can't do on ankidroid is prevent anki from reducing ease by 20% on again
set your default ease to 130% and your interval modifier to 1.92307692308 or whatever (desired ease divided by 130%)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg#t=16

How do you expect to have a perfect accent without studying Chinese for 3 years to be able to notice the differences in pitches?

>>21064256
it's 30 minutes max worth of trouble

and then you save about that much every day

and all the stress of deciding whether it's easy, hard or good

there's a detailed guide & anki plugins on matt's blog under tools/anki/low stakes kanji

he's rebranding stuff other people made as his own but those people knew what they were doing

i figure if he's stealing our content and monetizing it, might as well use his stuff without donating to his patreon

monkey see monkey do very ez

but if monkey never sees it monkey can never do it

>>21064271
fuck i haven't considered this

that would absolutely work

yes do that if you're heavily using ankidroid

>>21064043
He replied

>>21064312
lol djt is gonna roll over and take it like the bitch they are

>>21064312
>same profession
Why? Can't be for ethical reasons right? So it's for practical/networking reasons?

btw lolled at him saying "profession" lmao

>>21064126
Took me 3 months and 3 hours a day. Shit was hell. HELL.

i get what he means. he doesn't want to endorse djt's teachings only their novel resources.

>phonetic series
He knows that series is being posted here. He actually lurks itt. What a ろうぜきもの​

djt is the best site i have ever known.
the daily thread itself, tho...

>>21064312
i don't understand the line he's drawing

This thread would be made 10x better if every post that referenced or acknowledged the existence of Matt in any way earned you a one-week ban.

>>21064350
it would be better if this happened instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuNW6NaZsLw#t=1142

I wish Jamal would just start a patreon and give Matt a proverbial punch to the gut by dishing out better advice with a more ethical business model...

>>21064337
my kanji deck is now 95 days old
940 young+learn
892 mature
1176 unseen

(RTK1+3+ a couple of kanji)

i feel your pain

i wanna give matt money

problem my japanese advice series would be exactly 1 10 minute video and id have to create other content maybe just live streaming myself reading and posting on djt lol

>>21064350
ikr
unfortunately, those who dont follow his cult, think its funny to laugh about his mistakes... which for me, is as bad as following...

post your rtk stats
is rtk 3 even worth doing

>>21064361
not much different from matt he's given all the important info you could ever need and just sells theoretical optimizations and weird apps

>>21064337
3 hours? I'm almost 60% done and, and I'm at an hour max a day. I could see it MAYBE taking that time towards the end, but only towards the very end. And even then I doubt it'll take that much time. What exactly did you do when you were doing your reps every day?

>>21064373
I like it. I also love when I find a kanji during my readings that arent on RTK(1 and 3). I catch them like pokemon

>>21064373
i'll do rtk 3 later probably but tomorrow is my last day for all joyo and i've been really looking forward to it

>>21064376
are you writing or doing kanji to keyword?

>>21064376
>What exactly did you do when you were doing your reps every day
I averaged like 150 reviews a day and I would get bored and distracted, often spending 30-120 seconds on a card, alt tabbing, etc.. I made sure to properly visualize every single story. I kept a decently high retention rate at least.

>>21064373
depends on your goals. It's hard to find an exact number, but I've heard that the average person knows anywhere from 3000 kanji to 5000. If you want to read native materials for adults, surely there's going to be a lot of kanji that aren't in rtk 1.

>>21064383
keyword to kanji, but I don't write the kanji. If I know the parts that make up the kanji then I know I can write it; writing them after the fact you find you could've written them correctly is redundant.

is there a yomichan type of thing for ios?
i don't even need anki exporting, just something for quick look-ups

>>21064394
>average person
average Japanese person. gomen

>>21064394
I feel I'd rather learn them as I encounter them at that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFEXbZmNGew&t=2590

>>21064433
If you want to be able to write the kanji I would probably suggest otherwise, but if not then I don't see any problem with simply doing that. It's your choice at the end of the day though

>>21064349
An invisible one that he just made up. According to him you are only allowed to steal from creators who don't "teach Japanese," since he's a "teacher of Japanese" himself.

>>21064043
>>21064312
Did anyone report his YouTube/Patreon for linking to pirated materials?

>>21064476
yea by learn them i meant adding them to my rtk deck.
also, after rtk how do you come up with keywords for kanji to learn them. this seems like a problem when you're used to all the keywords being handed to you.

>>21064537
i still don't get it. he won't post pirated material but he'll put it in a video tutorial

>An invisible one that he just made up.
that's all the sense i can get out of the situation

>>21064542
thinking back i think i got a solution
lets say i found this word: 甑炉
I would put そう炉 on the front of the card.
I would have to remember the kanji with my story and write a la heisig.

>>21064542
I don't know if all of them are like this, but I'm pretty sure at least most keywords that are put on rtk kanji have the same keyword on jisho.org. so you can probably just look up the kanji on jisho and pick the first keyword. just make sure they don't conflict with your other cards (though I'm pretty sure anki makes the text box turn red for a card if another card already has the same exact entry). and make sure on jisho that in addition to putting the kanji in the search bar you put #kanji

>>21064569
but there's also the dilemma of which key word is the best one to pick, because maybe the first one isn't the most common meaning of the kanji. maybe it is, I'm not sure how jisho selected the keywords for kanji. Idk dude

>>21064537
>since he's a "teacher of Japanese" himself.
That's the laughable part. Matt doesn't even teach Japanese. He offers an approach to learning it, which he stole from Khatzumoto and rebranded as his own original work (very ethical), and beyond that he all he does is make Anki tutorial videos (half of which he had to take down because they were wrong), interview literally whos, and link to pirated content.

>>21058031
https://ask.fm/moogy0/answers/131728572884
https://ask.fm/moogy0/answers/139549834452
https://ask.fm/moogy0/answers/115778276820

>>21064678
ankidrones btfo again

>MIA/AJATTers who got N1 after 2 years of AJATTing:
-Nick
-Patrick
-Ben
>MIA/AJATTers who probably could have passed N1 if they had taken the JLPT:
-Khatz
-Matt
>People who got N1 after 2-3 years of reading every day and watching anime:
-Moogy

The evidence is stronger for MIA, no matter how much you hate that cult.

>>21064694
>5-10 hours a day of reading and painstakingly looking up every kanji you see
Oh sure, most normal people can totally do this no problem!

no one has done mia because it was invented like 5 months ago

>>21064733
ふだんはおとなしいが

おこると

ゴンさんのようにこわい

>>21064739
most normal people can suck my cock. i'm concerned about getting good japanese not about why you don't have time or whatever.

>>21064739
go look at how many people drop ajatt/mia because of rtk lul
rip calvin

is xiaovin still learning chinese or did he quit already

>>21064743
the advice matt gives for missing in actioners today is the same as it was a few years ago with the exception of lazy kanji.

>>21064733
>>People who got N1 after 2-3 years of reading every day and watching anime:
>-Moogy
>2-3 years
You had to lie. That says it all. He started reading every day from the end of 2009 and took the JLPT in late 2010.

Go back to your cult leader's discord and stay there. Also, this: >>21064743

にほんのひとって

おこると

ほんとうにこわいとおもう

>>21064770
including "dont read anything for 1 year"?

>>21064733
Not to mention if Moogy really did get more input than AJATTers but "merely passed n1" in about the same time as them, at worst it strengthens the utility of anki, at best it means Moogy was actually better but that this couldn't really be measured by a test. Which is a nice theory but good luck proving it.

>You had to lie. That says it all. He started reading every day from the end of 2009 and took the JLPT in late 2010.
Wrong dumbass. I'm comparing the time they spent learning Japanese. You can't just discard the "inefficient" methods they used before moving to the better ones because you'd have to have an idea of the hours invested, the efficiency of the weaker method, their competency before using the better method, etc. Nice try though.

>>21064776
that's the "hardcore" path or whatever it's called because he baselessly theorizes that listening ability will be permanently crippled if you read too much. there's also the balanced path.

>>21064770
no, he stole lazy kanji from khatz as well. all of matt's original ideas have been removed from "mia" because they were shit. his method is literally just a rebranding of ajatt now that he uses to dupe idiots into supporting him on patreon.

http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/lazy-kanji-cards-a-new-srs-card-format/

>>21064781
>You can't just discard the "inefficient" methods they used before moving to the better ones
But that's exactly what you've done. Matt was taking Japanese classes before he started AJATT. Khatz has also, despite his claims, been proven to have been studying Japanese pre-AJATT as well.

>>21064781
Whoops meant to link to this dweeb I just frog splashed:
>>21064772

>>21064799
>>21064798

>>21064788
>no, he stole lazy kanji from khatz as well
I know. That wasn't at all the point of my post which was talking about the differences between what Matt recommended years ago compared to what he recommended in MIA starting 5 months ago. Try to keep up you idiot. And Khatz "stole" input from antimoon and Krashen.

>(For those seeking fluency or above) Begin a meditation practice (ongoing)
lmao

>>21064805
For Khatz and Matt sure but I listed 3 other people.

>>21064810
Someone needs to send this to Matt:
>>21064108

"but moogy was taking japanese classes 2-3 years before he took the N1" yeah and we all know how worthless basic japanese classes are lul you can skim boirodaisuki and fap to erodoujinshi for a couple months and end up with the equivalent of 12 months of college study under your belt

>>21064814
Literally whos who you know nothing about beyond what they said in one video interview with Matt in order to promote AJATT and MIA.

mindfulness is good
meditation is good
training your brain to be more attentive is good
new age cult bullshit is not good

>>21064823
Same goes for Moogy. Probably took him 10 years to get N1 seeing as how he can't verify when he actually started learning. Ouch, being incredulous just boomerangs back onto you huh? I'm so sick of repeatedly curb stomping people in debates in these threads. It's so easy.

should i do passive listening while i meditate

>>21064108
>>21064819
what's alarming about this?

>>21064830
if u had 10 years of exposure its u who does the curb stomping of all the scrubs who dont

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzK79undb0

pretty sure you can mark the time you start learning japanese as the time you start taking your studies into your own hands since nothing you do in school matters and anything you "learn" from watching english subbed anime for three years would be outclassed by a day or two of conscious study (aside from phonetic awareness, which, fair, but not relevant since everyone is going to be very different about that)

>>21064827
these are stories you've made up for ancedotal reasons. it "seems" true, but you just gotta give up on it because judging by those effect sizes it seems to be a crock of shit

>>21064835
https://twitter.com/AndrewWatsonTTB/status/1110728052701650945

>>21064844
>these are stories
did you respond to the wrong post or something

>>21064847
no you talked about some things being good (probably based on anecdotes) when the evidence seems to indicate otherwise

>>21064853
what

ここはどこ?

made a big brain connection
heard the word "すてぜりふ” and figured out that it was 捨て + せりふ

Here's my suggestion for everyone:
Do whatever you won't regret and won't seem bad to you.
If you think that doing 6k or 10k on anki will not seem like a bad decision 6 months or 12 months from now, then do it. If you think that doing RTK will not seem like a bad option, then do that. If you think that watching hundreds of anime is what will not seem bad to you, then that you must do.

>>21064940
ur such a big smart boy

>>21064973
but rtk did not seem like a bad option but then when i finished it i regretted doing it

My Japanese learning strategy
1. Don't actually practice anything
2. Go on /djt/ and post about how RTK is the best method and AJATTs are delusional
3. Next day, go on /djt/ and post about how AJATT is the best and RTK's are delusional
4. Day after, go on /djt/ and post about how anki is the only real way to consistently learn
5. Repeat

my japanese learning strategy

1 learn it b4 u come to these threads or ur fUCKed 4ever

my strategy:
1. be a beginner
2. complain about posts i don't like so i can feel like the voice of reason on djt

i wanna procrastinate so bad by asking dumb questions on djt but i KNOW what i have to do already i just don't wanna do it!

whenever the thread is down in the dumps like this just look at this image and itll bring a smile to ur face every time >>21062761

>>21064382
>several months till they're all even matured
>and even then you'll forget them over time
Is it ever really done?

>>21065081
my "learning japanese" folder is still full of shit i still haven't touched for like a year, all gathered when i was procrastinating what needed to be done.

>>21065116
my "learning japanese" folder is collecting dust because i started playing eroge

>>21065097
Please tell me none of them are called bobu

>>21065129
gonna be honest things escalate pretty quickly and it becomes frankly unnecessary to name the other gentlemen

welcome to dgt

where you find lots of kougo

staying up past my bedtime to read
#fucktherules

best learning method is actually to learn Japanese, and then come to DJT only to laugh at dekinais. the sense of superiority you get will give you motivation to become even better at Japanese. please subscribe to my patreon

毎日のゲイスレへようこそ

>>21065204
I did this but then you realize you need to help the dekinai and reach ちょうじょう

目で見る
look at it with your eye? what the fuck.

スネで見る exists you know...

大目に見る

>>21065209
nvm with context i understand he's telling the person not to look at him with [that kind of] eye. garbage ass goop speak. what if i couldn't understand the context and hadn't been able to realize that? i'd have not known what that meant for possibly weeks or even months.

無骨 means being bony not being boneless.

>>21065225
meant for
>>21065212

>>21065008
Now u know not to do it again

imagine reading a visual game and never thinking

https://streamable.com/jqr1d

>>21065304
the fuck

>Person starts watching anime.
>Becomes weeaboo.
>Decides to learn Japanese.
>Learns kana and quits.
>Almost none of them start learning kanji and the ones that do quit after learning five hieroglyphs and how to use 'desu'.

Is it safe to say everyone has met someone like that in their lives? I know of 5+ who did this.

幸せな結婚生活を送っ

>>21065427
yes, every time matt's cult gains a new victim.

>>21065427
no, maybe if I join the anime club

how many of you have struggled with depression or anxiety?

>>21065571
I wager at least 90% of us

Guys, I'm gonna make it

>>21065571
earlier i had a panic attack and it cost me two hours i could've spend reading eroge. on my precious day off, of course.

Who has the best way to learning Japanese?
Matt does
Matt DOES
MATT. DOES.

しりとりしましょうね
うんこ

>>21065427
Yeah I've also met people who are under the impression that they only have to learn words and when they realize grammar is different in different languages they have a breakdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9Dv62i-f4

>/DGT/ makes a video shitting on M@tt

>>21064108
are those people doing the method outlined in TMI, or some other random BS?

You ボンs are just not ready for nihon語. Time to take a ねんね. Come back when you 覺悟を決めた.

>>21065794
i think this guy's telling us to go learn chinese. n-namen na yo!

>>21062204
Are the JFZ books good?

>>21064330
what networking he still insults everyone he meets customer and peer
he just doesnt want people to realize they dont need to pay for his unlisted videos either
how would thousand dollar guy feels knowing he supports a punk bitch

>>21066099
1000 dollar guy is probably just his alt account

>>21064043

what's the failure rate for people who make it past rtk

>小学校で使う教科書に初めてＬＧＢＴについて書いた

that got me thinking - are there any Jap textbooks online for free? they should be an easy read and there's a lot of various content in them, especially in history books

>>21066130
96% at start
Probably 90% after RTK completion

>>21066143
>history books
you will (not) learn about interesting topics such as
nanjing massacre
comfort women
bataan death march
unit 731
sook ching
and more!

>>21066143
seen multiple people ask and no one recommend anything but if youre ready for history textbooks youre ready to google

>>21066167
Speaking of, I work at a middle school and they don't teach WW2 except the atomic bomb.

>>21066199
duh!

They don't teach shit about anything at government daycare

>>21066199
WE DINDU NOTHING
WE WAS A GOOD BOY

>>21066218
In japan

>彼の言葉に、
>彼の言葉に、
>彼の言葉に、
>彼の言葉に、
>彼の言葉に、
I'm writing a LN!

>>21065427

Passed N4. not that it matters, was almost 5 months ago now so it doesn't represent my current level anyway

>>21062204
>reading and google = 0$
doesn't that assume that you gonna pirate reading material? or do you plan to entirely read off publicly available content like twitter?

Like i'm not arguing that reading is essential and hell even in some cases better than grinding grammar rules but that picture is dumb because you can also just pirate the books. the genki and tobira pdfs are everywhere you dont even need to look hard

>>21065757
lol

>>21066409
except for the worst of the worst cases of dekinai ur gonna need somethin to read either way
charts more about sayin u dont need to buy textbooks

>>21066409
plenty of good shit to read off of that you don't have to pay for, like narou, free manga, and フリゲ

>>21066414
Nothing wrong with his post, Matt's behavior probably turns a lot of people off to the method. If they were introduced to the method by Krashen or Steve instead (literally same method different name) then they would probably have accepted it quicker.

>>21066464
>Krashen or Steve instead (literally same method different name)
ur stretchin so hard u might as well say if ur tryin to learn nihongo no matter how u do it its ajatt

>>21066471
AJATT's methods are just Krashen's input hypothesis which Steve also subscribes to, you just do it more often. Same method different frequency. The only noticeable difference is that AJATT/MIA wrongly believes that input doesn't need to be comprehensible, which is fucking retarded. I think Matt also thinks that passive listening helps which is also moronic. Other than that though it's the same shit.

>>21066474
what about sentence mining and formerly rtk
and avoiding permanently crippling ur pitch accent
matt thinks passive helps but khatz went further with listening in ur sleep and eating keeki with ohasi lol

reminder to check out drama CD's for pure listening practice

>>21066494
Post drama CD recommendations.

>>21066490
Those are smaller nuances rather than the actual method but maybe the issue here is that we have different ideas on what is and isn't a method. It would probably be better to say that they all use the input paradigm brought about by Krashen's research. Matt diverts from it a bit because he wants to sound smarter than he is, and he says that it doesn't have to be comprehensible (completely wrong) and you don't have to pay attention to it (also bullshit). In fact a lot of what Matt says is absolute retardation, but the basic paradigm is Krashen's (albeit a bastardized version).

Steve's method is basically Krashen's but with higher focus on reading it seems. Krashen actually uses LingQ, little fun fact for you.

>>21066494
would you say they are usually harder or easier than a podcast? the studio quality audio and lack of people talking over each other /stutter probably makes it easier to follow in theory but i bet it uses harder vocab as well

>>21066536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPaLoZJhF0