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>>21005673
Nice, finally the chance to give zun a bit more beer money.

I've been playing for a month. I've can't keep playing after getting hit without spending all my bombs. If I die with at least 1 bomb left, I start over again. When do I stop dying in normal mode?

>>21006904
Forgot posting my main.

>>21006904
>>21006913
Stop being so hard on yourself. Everyone dies with bombs left sometimes.

>>21006904
You're going to love MoF and SA if you don't do anything about that OCD .

>>21006928
Let me explain. I either die at least once before killing Hong, if I don't use a bomb, her midboss moment is annoying and can make me lose a life if I'm not positioned correctly. Her two last spells force me to use bombs.

>>21006934
I keep repeating stage 1, 2 and 3 every day. Patchouli seems easy, but as I never practice her stage I somehow got worse at it.

I only got to face Sakuya 3 times.

I only faced Remi once.

>>210069768
The same thing will happen in hard mode and in lunatic too if you keep worrying about it
You know you can capture those spells if you put your heart into it, even if it's 1 time out of 10 tries
But if that's what you REALLY want, then don't give up

>>21007034
But anon, the people on youtube playing lunatic mode make it seem so easy.

If I don't lose any bombs/lives at stage 4, am I good as a 1month old player?

What the fuck is with the blur in EoSD? it makes my eyes bleed.

>>21007209
What blur are you even talking about anon?

>>21007077
>make it seem so easy
Because they've been playing for probably years.

There is no real standard for getting good. Don't be discouraged just because you aren't seeing results at the pace you think you should be having.

>>21007214
shit that moves fast gets afterimages, including some shots

>>21007077
>am I good
I'd say so, but remember that improving is the thing you should be focusing on, and not on getting good. >>21007257

>>21007260
that's on your end. might be something with the game or vpatch config; i have no blur with pic related. if that doesn't fix it, check your monitor settings, graphics settings, drivers, etc.

Alright lads, I've been trying to Normal 1CC LLS. How the fuck are you supposed to dodge Stage 5 Yuuka's bigass laser? Every time I hug the wall, I end up almost immediately eating shit from the bullets. Also, what's a good way of finding the range of your hurtbox for both Reimu and Marisa? It's not as easy as EoSD for me to pick it out.

>>21007507
>I end up almost immediately eating shit from the bullets
dodge vertically

>>21007790
Thanks anon. Yuuka and Marisa kept robbing me of all my resources so your advice helped me clear stage 5. I'm a coward who bombed through Marisa. One day I'll learn how to dodge her patterns.

>>21007260
Never had this happen, seems like a you problem.

how do I stop choking

>>21012178
Grind in practice mode

>>21012184
Sounds like a decent plan

After hard 1cc, did this with reimu-yukari. This extra and koishi herself do not play around.

Anyone have that progress sheet that keep tracks on what you 1cc'd with characters and shot types on each game

>>21012178
Are you using all your resources? Unless you die on every spell you should be able cheese most patterns with bombs or borders

>>21013870
That's what I meant by choke--I'm dying without bombing, leading to failure despite how well I've done in the previous stages.
I can reliably capture two of her spells and two of her nonspells, so it feels like a matter of time at this point.

>>21013897
Practice and bombspaming is the solution, are you afraid of using bombs because you might need them later?

>>21013764
Here you go, anon.

i fuckin choke at reisen and lose it. I have like ~5 lives up to her and then just drop it

reimu team btw

I can't believe I tolerated LOLK all the way through only to be greeted with "dodge through the rotating hole in the wall the size of ZUN's microdick and also it randomly changes the rotation so you die even after you develop muscle memory after getting killed for an hour" attack

fuck this shit

>>21017749
If you are talking about Junko's 2nd non then its not random, you fuck.

>>21017766
it's still shit

>>21017808
Just memorize the safe area relative to her position. It's even symmetrical and starts in the same direction every single time.

I now understand why people make those intentionally retarded lolk memes

>>21017845
Why?

>>21005673
>Steam
>2019
Well at least I don't have to wait for days to import physical copies, that's something

>>21004172
>be me
>play EoSD
>decide to practice a little bit before the real deal
>cirno kills me at least three times
>play the game
>run up to cirno, manage to dodge her annoying bullets the first time she uses a spell
>pass stage 3 and Meiling without getting hit
>go to stage 4 and finally confront Patchouli
>after numerous bomb spamming, sweating and screaming I finally beat her
>stage 5
>get one-shoted by the first enemy on screen
>encounter Sakuya with one continue left
>proceeds to beat my ass
Up until Meiling I didn't use any of my bombs and I plan on doing the same with Patchouli. I still haven't memorized her stage, though and Sakuya is just a nightmare with her timestop attacks. How am I supposed to avoid those little shits before her, too? They just shoot everywhere.

>>21018574
Wow hold up. Who the heck are you quoting friend?

>>21017749
If you think Junko's non is horrible, then you're gonna have a aneurysm with the rest of the fight. I hope you saved at least 1 or 2 bombs for the last spellcard kek

>>21018656
I'll have you know I say all of my posts out loud so actually I'm quoting myself buddy boy

Yo speaking of Junko's nons, on Lunatic, is there a trick to her last (iirc) one, the one with the bullets going both up and down?
From my experience streaming didn't help, but hugging the bottom of the screen with Reimu made the rising bullets totally miss me, but sometimes they just hit me ...? I think the risk was higher the more offcenter I was, I dunno, maybe it was my imagination. What the fuck is up with this pattern anyway?

>>21019473
Literal ping-pong. The bullets shot ricochet against the screen with refracting angle. Try to hug the bottom and look for gaps. It's an infuriating non-spell.

>>21019501
Aaah, right, a gap on the way down will still be a gap for the bullets going up. Yeah I remember small movements were relatively safe, but wide ones (ie. larger than a gap) weren't. Still got hit sometimes, and I don't think I'm guarenteed to always be able to dodge with small movements. And to top it off Junko can just decide to fuck off to the other end of the screen where I can't hit her.

Oh shit I remember another one of her patterns now, the one with the curvy purple/straight red lasers. I managed to find safespots in one isolated cycle (the concave part of the purple lasers was safe from the following red lasers), but then dodging the next cycle was a total crapshoot. Each cycle's angle is totally random, right? Because it sure felt like it.

>>21019558
Pure Madness?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpHXmgKfaC8

>>21019580
Yeah that one. Given the angle being (I think) random, happening to dodge it completly by standing still doesn't sound too far-fetched.
Now if you tell me that this is actually consistent I'm going to trigger an aneurysm.

>>21019613
I'm not a Lunatic player, but in the comments, the guy says, in response to a comment asking if he did it without moving, that unfortunately no, he does extremely minute movements to survive. Actual micrododging and a lot of anticipation.

>>21019613
There's a picture of how you can read the start of each curvy laser wave and predict which direction it will come down, but unless you're some kind of god it's pretty much just luck. If you're not going for a no bomb run I suggest learning how to dodge the straight lasers consistently (which is doable) and just bomb if the curved ones fuck you.

>>21019640
No tricks to it then, aight. That's annoying, because this spell always felt like winning at the lottery, hoping she wouldn't throw two consecutive cycle with a disgusting angle offset.
Thanks for the translation.

>>21019682
Haha yeah that's what I did on my first clear, ended up throwing two or three bombs at it.
I do hope to tackle no bomb LoLK someday, that's why I was wondering.

I take it the hitbox of IN 4B Marisa's stars is smaller than it looks? Some of the gaps look very tight to squeeze through.

>>21020229
Like the big blue/red stars of Asteroid Belt? Yeah, the hitboxes are definitely generous.

>>21020314
I think the smaller ones for her second nonspell are more troublesome, but I also need to see how tough Reimu is in comparison.

>>21007257
>>21007284
Thanks for the insight anons.

Today Cirno is killing me easily. I can't dodge her Icicle fall spell card, even though yesterday it was a piece of cake to do that.

>>21020331
Which difficulty are you playing on?

>>21020326
Yeah, I was just getting a screenshot of those actually. They don't play as nice.
Thankfully the second non is completely static : gaps always appear at consistent spot and times. With some grinding in practice mode you can figure out a precise route on which you'll be able to predict gaps ahead to time.
I'll get a .webm of my route if you want.

>>21020357
>thankfully the second non is completely static
Ammending to that ; I haven't really tested it, but I think it's only true if you get Marisa to move the same way everytime, which is simply controlled by being either on her left or right when she moves. This doesn't matter much in effect provided your movement is consistent.

How many retries did it take people here to clear Lolk Pointdevice on normal? I died 536 times as Reimu and 593 times as Marisa.

>>21020357
>>21020399
Thank you, I'll make do without a webm; the road ahead will be a lot of practice, then followed by Reisen, Eirin, Kaguya and Mokou.

>>21020342
Normal.

Just got into Touhou finally. Decided to start with PCB. I can clear the first half of the game without using bombs, but then I get my shit kicked in at stage 4. Most specifically the "Fazioli Nether Performance" attack by the boss.

I lose all my lives on that pattern. I can't seem to find a way to dodge it without eventually getting hit by the blue bullets coming through the gaps of two red ones.

Do I just need to git gud or is this the part of the game where I need to stop being stationary and start grazing like a madman ?

>>21019501
hug the bottom and stay close to the middle of any gaps

sometimes you will just get hit and die because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, with no way to possibly react to it

such is lolk

>>21019613
it's literally just luck to not randomly get hit

there's no way you can possibly react to when the lasers initially come out, especially with the curvy ones

>>21020326
reimu can be almost harder than lunatic eirin

>>21021010
There really isn't that much to any of the attacks in PCB, they are all doable on reaction even in lunatic. It's only later games that start using high velocity/laser/static pattern bullshit that forces you to memorize it to survive. It's simply a matter of being good at Touhou.

What the fuck is up with Pure Bullet Hell? Every single fucking time I dodge through a gap in the blue attacks there just HAPPENS to be a red or purple attack that magically appears there and walls me. It must be by design because I haven't even gotten past one set of blue attacks in 67 tries.

>>21021010
PCB certainly drops a couple degrees of fucking around at 4. You don't have to face Fazioli, though. Just don't shoot at Lyrica during the previous spell. Personally, I always shoot at Lunasa (wearing black, in the middle) because I prefer her card. Also, make sure you're using the vsync patch.

It's been a while since I opened PCB, so I may have some things switched around.

>>21021418
>Just don't shoot at Lyrica during the previous spell.
I didn't even realize whichever one you shot at caused the next card, I just assumed it was determined by your character because it was consistently the same for each character.

>>21021380
It's one of the hardest patterns in the series period. Not much to do but git gud.

>>21021427
I believe what happens is that the sisters are physically arranged according to your character, which heavily influences who you shoot. It still is possible to choose, though. (So my earlier comment about Lunasa being in the middle is wrong, my apologies.)

>>21021437
>bomb only gets me through half of one phase

>>21004172
I've 1cc'd Touhou 6 Normal about a month ago, but right now 7 is destroying me even more than 6 ever did. Especially Youmu and Yuyuko, which I find to be significantly harder to just survive than Sakuya and Remilia.
While I'm hoping to finally beat it soon, I'm just shocked that people consider it easier than 6. Played MarisaB for both games by the way.

>>21020331
https://youtu.be/eRc2EjhacjQ
I don't remember how that spell card looks like in normal/hard, but I found this video that teaches you how do dodge it

>>21018574
A lot of patterns in touhou look way harder than they are
Sakuya's stage is nearly all targeted at you so you just need to hold your position until it's about to run into your face then move a tiny bit in either direction

>>21021437
>>21021458
The difficulty spike from the second to the third phase is out of this world. Had so much trouble with it.
I dug up my spell card record as it was after my pointdevice run without bombs. This spell by itself accounted for two thirds of my retry count (3054) for the WHOLE game.

I can't even finish normal mode using extra lives and all my continues. How am I supposed to even have a shot at 1cc?

>>21021880
Practice

>>21021880
You've got to consider whether or not you can overcome the challenge, then practice. I looked at these games and thought "This is ludicrous, I'll never be able to 1CC any of them", but still try to improve because of the thrill and desire to understand the characters.

>>21021880
Part of the fun of danmaku is the release after actively subjecting yourself to hopelessness and suffering

>>21021625
I already know how to dodge it, avoiding the bullets was easy. I just couldn't do it yesterday, dont' know why.

no

>>21022380
the original LMAO U DIE NOW

>>21022448
when ultra instinct kicks in

>>21021610
I actually find the Prismdiver Sisters and Stage 4 as a whole harder than Youmu. I think the time-stopping thing in Youmu's fight gives me too much time to regain my composure.

Do you play in windowed mode or fullscreen?

>>21023720
Having passed this point years and years ago I'd support the claim that on Normal the Prismrivers are probably harder than Youmu.

>>21023782
windowed mode is like 3 inches across on my 1440p screen

>>21023782
1280x960 windowed, using vpatch to resize the window for older games.

>>21023782
Windowed. Fullscreen just feels inherently wrong for Touhou, and most other shmups for that matter.

>>21025070
And why is that?

>>21025106
If I had a reason beyond it "feeling wrong" I probably would have specified it in my post.

>>21023782
When I first played touhou my PC had a 800x640 monitor so I just play on 800x640 FS bc I developed an habit

>>21025115
Does it have something to do with a mindset of precision? To me, bullet hells seem made with the idea that the player will be considering exact distances. To alter the resolution of the game is to distort those distances, which goes against the creator's intent at the very least.

(I am aware this is not a strong argument at all. I simply have the same gut feeling, and am attempting to quantify it.)

>>21025760
I play the older games with vpatch to make the window bigger, like this anon >>21024586. So I'm changing the resolution anyway. Fullscreen has just always felt wrong to me.

>>21012178
finally

>>21023782
Always windowed

So i Just downloaded vpatch and 1cc'd EoSD on hard first try, I even had a live left. Previously I couldn't even reach Remi without using a continue. I always thought I don't need vpatch because I didn't conciously notice any input delay. Next time I'll just listen to this thread sooner.

>>21021880
Anon, I promise you that if you practice enough you can 1CC normal mode. The first thing you have to figure out is if you even want to 1CC normal mode like >>21021978 said. If this is a goal you're willing to work towards, my first suggestion is to get used to the basics of Touhou. Know how big your hurtbox is (even when you're unfocused), know what bullets are smaller than they look, understand what your focused and unfocused speeds feel like, etc. Once you get those skills down, try to get yourself off the bottom of the screen when you can when it's safe and learn how to stream bullets. I feel like if you master these skills, you can at least get to stage 4 without needing to continue.

What game do you plan on 1CC normal, anon? I might be able to offer better advice for specific problems you're running into for 1CCing normal. If it helps, I've 1CC'd every main windows game on normal. Still working on the PC-98 games. Finished 1CC normal for LSS with Reimu A, Marisa A, and Marisa B a few days ago.

>>21020331
Today Rumia was killing me easily. The bullets are too fast. What is happening anons?

Is my begginer's luck decreasing?

>>21026187
I wasn't dying to rumia even when I had literally never played touhou before and turned on ESOD out of curiosity for the first time

something might be wrong with you

>>21023782
Depends on the game

>>21026187
You need to set your mindset right anon, your problem is mental and not luck

>>21026001
Trying to 1cc PCB normal. Fuck the Prism sisters. Stage 4 is so fucking long I end up choking and losing all composure mid-way through the boss fight. I legit lose 3 lives in a row in the last minutes.

For the record I find Youmu easier.

Reminder that using windowed mode induces a small amount of input lag due to desktop composition and fullscreen does not

I'm not saying you should definitely be playing fullscreen, but just for consideration

>>21027263
It's been about 7-8 years since I last touched PCB so I've been trying to 1CC Normal. Marisa, in my opinion, is far tougher to 1CC normal with than Reimu or Sakuya since she only starts with 2 bombs (if you care about using them as death bombs) and has Lyrica as her starter for Stage 4. That being said, I have a few things that might help you with some of the stage 4 spellcards. As mentioned already in this thread, go for Lunasa for the first spellcard. Her non-card is simple to dodge (stand completely still at the bottom unless you absolutely have to move left or right) and you can clear out some of the bullets in her spellcard if you sit on a musical note before they burst (they won't spawn when you're on top). For Prism Concerto, I recommend staying in the middle and dodging carefully until Merlin and Lyrica move their lasers up to make a cross. Then move to the left or right to help dodge and give you a bit of breathing space. I usually clear the spell card by staying on the right hand side and shooting at Lyrica. Spirit Wheel Concerto Grosso actually isn't as bad since the bulk of the bullets in the second half tend to stray off into a particular direction, leaving space in between each group. Don't feel too bad if you're struggling to 1CC with Marisa B, anon. Her focus range is pretty narrow and stage 4 is probably the hardest stage to deal with considering how dense the bullet patterns get if you don't immediately wipe out the fairies as soon as they spawn. Stage 5 isn't nearly as bad in my opinion since you can more or less go in blind and follow the spirit trails. Practice stage 4 until you feel like you can deal with the prism rivers' spell cards and if that isn't enough, work on timing borders (kill borders as late as possible to collect cherry blossoms/clear out bullets and unfocus to help speed up collecting the 50K) and death bombing. Keep at it, Stage 4 is a rough ride for most people starting out.
>For the record I find Youmu easier.
Agreed. Hell, I find even Yuyuko easier than Prism Rivers.

>>21025873
Good job!

>>21023782
Windowed. I like being able to alt tab easily when on menus and stuff. Plus with a big monitor it just feels weird in full screen.

>>21023782
I have PTSD from an SA run on windowed where the game decided to alt tab for no reason without warning so I play full screen now

>>21029049
How far through the run were you?

>>21028628
Hey thanks anon. And yeah I'm trying to do it with Marisa. Don't care about shot types or differences between bombs I just really like the character.

Fazioli Dark Performance is mostly the spell I die like 2 times on. (Without using bombs though, since i'm trying to learn how to dodge it). So in reality I can either still go with the path I'm taking and just bomb twice during that spell card or go with your advice.
I really do feel dumb as fuck for not finding out the way to dodge that spell though.

This sorry attempt of a run somehow turned out fine. I guess it's time for Marisa now.

>>21025873
Congratulations, how did it went?

>>21023782
Fullscreen, can't get used in windowed mode.

>>21029681
Pretty sloppily, honestly. Probably could've done much better (especially on Stage 5), but I think I'm just going to move on to a different game.

>Play like a God for one stage
>Play like shit the next 3

>>21029881
Who are you quoting?

>>21029209
I think it was at Satori first Reimu/Yukari recollection card
I remember because the window that it switched too only covered half the screen so I got to watch myself die before I could alt tab back
Oh also my home computer is 4k so I'm windowed mode I can barely see shit because it doesn't scale

>>21029430
>Fazioli Dark Performance is mostly the spell I die like 2 times on.
I never did Lyrica's spellcard until today and holy shit is it not fun. I will still highly recommend going for Lunasa. You can actually kill her spellcard much easier than how I recommended doing it. I'll report back if I find a way to cheese Fazioli Dark Performance. Good luck anon. https://youtu.be/kjPKcARo_uI?t=1116

>>21026655
>>21027154
Thanks.

Almost killed remilia today, now everything till Hong is easy. Patchy is not that hard, and I only need to learn two Sakuya spell cards to beat her without using bombs.

>>21031325
Anon, what. Anybody will choose Lyrica before the other 2 any day, her nons are easy to learn and her spell is free

>>21031430
Are we talking normal? Because normal Lunasa is easier. Her non card is literally hug the bottom of the screen and stand still until you absolutely HAVE to move left or right (the bullets are notable way slower as they travel down) and her spellcard is just stream the bullets vertically downwards without having to actually dodge much of the blue bullets (check vid at 18:39). Unless I'm missing something about Lyrica's spellcard that makes it easier than slowly move down until you get your clear bonus. Is there some save spot at the top of her pattern or something?

I honestly can't comprehend people who say PCB is easier than EoSD.

>>21031781
You will when you play ESOD lunatic

PCB lunatic is a joke and barely harder than normal with few exceptions. Lunatic Remilia is arguably one of the hardest boss fights in the series.

>>21031781
As far as survivability goes, PCB has 2 characters that give you more than the standard 2 bombs plus a bullet eating shield that you periodically get from getting cherry points. If you learn how to time death bombs, the amounts of hits you can tank in a 1CC run is increased significantly. Stages 1-3 are typical ZUN ez mode stages and stage 5 isn't very long. Add in that Reimu is what most people use and normal mode is the default, you get PCB is easier than EoSD.

>>21031801
EoSD Lunatic was easier imo

Fuck LoLK

>>21027746
would be nice if np2 and vpatch/winhos had an integer scaling option for fullscreen. unfortunate to have to choose between pixel accuracy + better size (for peripheral vision) and lower input delay.

at least the cost is tolerable for toho games with a decent setup. ymmv, but i get about two frames delay with np2 and zero/one (i assume it's one but i can't tell) with the windows games when windowed. didn't notice any immediate benefit by going fullscreen in np2, but i'll try it for a week or so to give it a fair shake (and i'll try to keep an open mind despite it being way too fucking big).

btw, if you're on win7, i read that desktop composition can be disabled per application under compatibility options. i'm feeling that win7 (and xp for that matter) will be a good multi-boot option for offline gaming after it stops receiving updates.

>Been playing Touhou for like half a year now on W10
>Not particularly good but never had any problems, or so it seems
>Now read that I'm supposed to have a "vpatch" installed

So how bad did I fuck up ?

Finally, finally cleared Extra EoSD. This was my first Touhou game and I got all endings on Normal but then have been playing this for almost four months now. I promised myself I would clear Extra before moving onto the next game, and finally my work paid off (yes, with the pussy strat for Starbow Break).

Got all the way up to Youmu on Normal on my first play of PCB this same day. So happy to play something different. I know I'd never be able to enjoy it without having cleared Extra first.

>>21032583
Congratulations.

>>21032583
OMEDETOU !

>>21032583
Good job anon. The only extra mode boss I've cleared without glitches or exploits is Ran and I don't think she counts.

>>21032427
this

>>21031574
They're probably thinking of Hard and Lunatic, where Lyrica is by far the easiest because her Spell changes.

>>21032574
You fucked up the moment you decided to abuse the quoting function.

I did it. Now for the 1cc normal.

>>21032583
Good job. Just now managed to clear it too with Reimu A, the last character I had yet to beat it with.
https://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=45768

>>21035983
ganbare!

>>21031325
I actually just did today for no reasons a run where I shoot Merlin instead of Lyrica and managed to get through her no problems even though it was the first time I faced her attacks.

So yeah, I think I'll go for Merlin now. Can't believe I let Fazioli held me down for so long.

>>21036487
Glad that you found a strategy that works for you. I think Merlin in general isn't that bad on normal. I don't know if it's because she's just that easy or I'm too used to fighting her as Sakuya. I vaguely remember that the general consensus back when I first played in 2009-2010 was Merlin is the hardest on normal mode. Dunno if that ever changed.

>>21036720
Might just depend on people. I've been searching on the web and I've yet to find anyone else complaining about Fazioli Performance, so maybe it's just an easy pattern but for some reasons I just can't see the way. Meanwhile the moment Merlin shoot at me with those big-ass lasers I instantly felt relieved. Different strokes.
I'm glad to say though that even if it's the stage that gives me the most struggle it's fun to play every time. The sisters are a great boss fight.

Ì just lost my first PCB 1CC in the last 3 seconds of Yuyuko's survival spell after making it through her fight with 0 lives left. Kill me please.

>>21036720
>>21036487

Merlin first non-spell is so ass it's legit the hardest part of normal PCB for me.

I think I may be retarded
this shit took me fucking hours, all because my shitty keyboard doesn't let me make small enough movements, and reimu kept moving toward the bottom of the screen, making the gaps between the bullets even smaller
but still, if I could finally manage this, you anons can 1cc and clear anything you put your minds to

Mystic Square.

>>21038638
What about it?

in soew does pressing z repeatedly instead of holding the button down increase the fire rate? i feel like im seeing reimu shoot more bullets if i do that

>>21041074
Yeah, it actually does, and it's a pretty substantial damage increase.

>>21041095
well i guess im gonna have to make use of it now cause i feel like the thought of it would just haunt me otherwise. at least its not an auto win exploit like the mof one

>>21041119
I'm guilty of it myself. Didn't feel bad too bad about it because fuck enemy suicide bullets seriously.

>>21037561
Nice one. Good luck with the final day though. There's some crazy shit there.

>>21037561
>>21041434
No items right? Yeah, keep us updated when you reach the final day!

>my shitty keyboard doesn't let me make small enough movements
I think you'll want to fix this because one spell in particular might just be straight up impossible (no pun intended).

Is it just me or does Mystic Square feel a bit easier with Mima than any other character?

Why do people keep saying that UFO is the worst game? Is it because of the UFO mechanic? Or is it the overall difficult?

>>21043573
But TD is the worst. I'm assuming UFO isn't well liked by score runners and newer players. I didn't think the UFO mechanic was too awful. It was mostly memorization.

After 5 days of non-stop play I finally 1cc'd EoSD on normal! It was with Reimu A.

>>21043573
DDC and TD are the worst.

>>21043651
Here's my stats. Not my best score but at least I finally got to see the good ending.

>>21043681
Congratulations, will you try to beat Extra or will you move on to another game?

>>21043763
I'm thinking on moving on to PCB. I want to 1cc some more games then I will do the Extras. PoFV is the only other game I 1cc'd and I haven't beaten the Extra stage yet. Although some anons say PoFV isn't really a true Touhou game so EoSD is my actual first 1cc.

>>21043651
>>21043681
Congrats anon!

>>21043278
I think so too. Her wide and relatively powerful shot coupled with the fast speed can clear stages enemies just as well as Reimu, if not better. Her speed in general feels really useful in MS. Thinking of stage 3 Alice, stage 5 and Yumeko in particular.

Anyone else here have problems clearing Foggy London Dolls consistently? I can clear all of Alice's other Normal spellcards just fine.

>>21047450
not really those bullets have a really generous hitbox in PCB

the same spellcard in MOF would kill me every single time because of the gay hitboxes

>>21047450
I always found Alice and her stage very easy. Seriously it feels like a short brake from stage 2 and gives you enough resources for the clusterfuck that comes next.

>>21043573
DDC is objectively and without any doubt the worst 2hu game.

UFO will always be hated because it is seen as both difficult for new players because they have to route for ufo pieces more than in any other game; and also as very easy because this mechanic can be easily abused for lots of resources (you can get full lives before stage 3 boss). It's a solid game anyway.

>>21048092
>DDC is objectively and without any doubt the worst 2hu game.
Could you elaborate on that a little? I see this pop up now and then and want to know the reasoning behind it, well founded or otherwise.

>>21044798
Thanks. I wonder if I'd have 1cc'd it by now if I hadn't tried using reimu/marisa a bunch of times. Mima's focused speed feels smooth, the rest feel sluggish.

>>21012178
It's a running theme

>>21048634
turns out i would have

>>21048930
Does focus and slowdown % actually negatively affect what score ZUN gives you in the PC-98 games? Or are they just there for fun?

>>21043651
>>21043681
>>21043763
>>21043784
>>21044636
Decided to go and 1cc Reimu B normal since the pattern techniques I used were fresh in my mind. Found it interesting how I had to alter positions a bit since the attack didn't auto hit and how Patchy had a few different spell cards.

>>21047450
This shit's easy dude.

>>21043573
I don't mind the mechanic so much
Resource collection is the worse thing about it for me, if you happen to die early on on a boss you won't be even get back to full power if you capture the rest of them
My vote for worst is DDC like everyone else, TD is dull but I like it's soundtrack too much to really hate it

>>21048743
Cheer up anon, I know you can do it, you are almost there!

>>21049572
Sometimes it's easy as balls and I clear it just fine, but other times it feels like the rings overlap each other at weird angles that make it difficult for me to route on reaction and dodge. I'll work on my routing, it's probably a routing issue.

>>21050137
lunatic kanoko is fucking absurd so I wouldn't be surprised if it takes him a long time to 1cc that

wind god's divine virtue alone is probably capable of killing almost anyone consistently.

>>21052320
>lunatic kanoko is fucking absurd
Play a shot with good boss damage and just bomb everything except the second non. Macro dodging in VoWG isn't even that hard and you can just bomb the walls.

>>21052402
>it's easy if you bomb everything
case closed

>>21052617
Exactly, so what's the problem?

BOMBS ARE FOR FAGS

>>21051940
Note that it's completely static, so yes, it's a routing issue.

>>21052617
This is Mountain of Bombs we're talking about

>>21053471
I practiced and you're right. I always thought it depended on which way Alice moved.

>>21052320
It wasn't that bad, about 6 hours of gameplay total from starting attempts.
I barely clutched this out though.

>>21054387
Congrats, honestly if the final boss doesn't kick the shit out of you why even play the game.

>>21054387
>about 6 hours of gameplay total
Damn, nice.

>>21054387
Congrats anon. I wish I were masochistic/skilled enough to 1CC lunatic anything. Maybe I'll dedicate myself to 1CC Lunatic UFO when I decide to stop being a pussy.

>using bombs

After a long pause I finally finished Nue. Time to meet ZUN's wife.

>>21057948
Nice! Was she difficult for you?

Why are Sakuya's timestopping spellcards the only thing still giving me trouble in EoSD?

>>21054387
Congrats anon! Your hard work paid off!

>>21057005
UFO is one of the harder Lunatics; I recommend starting with something else.

>>21059818
Would PCB be an alright place to start? Not sure which games are easier for lunatic runs.

>>21060172
yes actually pcb or IN lunatic would be the best

Can anyone explain to me the story of VD? I'm too lazy to install the patch.

>>21061487
It's what you get if you sleep with Sanae.

How to ISC Remilia?
How to ISC Kanako?

>>21061931
If you're referencing no items Fitful Nightmare then I have to give you my condoleances.

>>21061931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsjt4Or1AKc
Just do it.