/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21046334

Please don't turn this into another e-celeb thread.

I just don't fucking care anymore about learning vocab, I'll just read a lot, look a lot up until I understand shit. Is that a good strategy? In some way, at least?
I'm just tired of having to repeat vocab all the time when I just want to have more input.

>>21047624
When I read I read. I don't bother obsessively mining everything I see because I don't care. I will look shit up and leave it at that. Some things stick and some don't. If you see stuff often enough you get the hang of it anyways. No one is forced to use Anki to do this.

>>21047439
Seems to me that the answer they want to hear is clearly A but I'm not sure why D would be wrong either.

>>21047655
anki is useful if you want fast vocab gains and decreased lookups. if you don't care about speed of vocab gains, or already have really infrequent lookups, then you don't need anki. for someone who still needs to look up every 5-10 sentences or even more often than that, anki is the superior choice for filling in those holes.

who here is into leveling up their metacognitive awareness?

who here is into eating ass ?

>>21047722
>eating ass
黒人見つけた

Is it true that if you are having too much fun studying you aren't working hard enough? Should I do more Anki and review grammar books instead of reading?

>>21047737
Yes. Having fun indicates that you are merely using the skills you already have, not developing new ones.

>>21047737
nope, i gamified my anki with rewards and visual stimulation and i've learned over 300 words the past month while having fun, plus reading a lot. don't listen to that grandpa over there.

What should I do if I start forgetting a lot of kanji? (RTK)
At this point I'm overwhelmed with reviews in Anki and I just keep forgetting more and more and adding more and more reviews each day.

>>21047737
Yes learning is at odds with having fun. Every time you feel yourself slip over the fun threshhold you should self correct as soon as possible to push it back across the learning boundary or else all that time is going to waste.

>>21047771
give up on RTK and learn Japanese

>>21047771
It's time to double down. Do you want to learn Japanese or not? Better whip your weak brain into shape or give up forever. You should increase your daily new cards for a while to really show your resolve.

>>21047771
Stop adding new cards, and do you reps and watch more anime until things calm down in anki.

>>21047624
sounds good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dql2DJCyz0I

>>21047771
fix your awkward stories and stop doing new cards for a few days.

>>21047842
actual good advice on djt


珍しいでございますね

>>21047771
stop doing retarded kanji remembering and just watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime ftw

>>21047874
do this but the opposite

if u do the opposite u wont learn japanese

just like the rest of em

gaijin shoujo wo mitara ore wa kanojo wo kansuru

watashiwa gayjin

what does なんじゃない after a noun mean? the なん part is what's confusing me.

っんだよ

7000 words in anki, spent hundred of hours reading VN and LN

so why is there three words I can't read each sentence on this new VN I just started?

cuz ur still new to japanese

>>21048003
because 7k words is fuck all you need at least +20k

>>21048003
because either you haven't learned those words yet, or you did but forgot them. できねーよ

sometimes I wish I were an ankidrone just so I would know the exact size of my vocabulary

i just settle for being able to crack open a nice visual game on a whim and enjoy it instead

>>21048003
sounds like you didn't watch senpai's Q&A vid but japanese is a hard language because it has many more words than languages like chinese.

I checked Matt's vocab answers and they were all correct. More confirmation that JCAT is a random number generator.

ok thx for the update chief but keep this post in mind before posting again >>21047598

Help I still don't know when 開く is pronounced ひらく or あく.

>>21048090
you probably don't have the ability to tell if they're correct or not desu lol. as if you know what nuance each word has

>>21048108
too fuckin bad dude gonna just have to deal with a life of uncertainty

Newstudent here
why the hell the past of 寝る becomes 寝った and きる becomes きった
while 見る becomes 見た and 考える turn into 考えた if all of them are る verbs? shouldn't all of them just end in った?

>>21048136
wait till i blow ur mind and show u 寝た

Is it counter productive if I'm n4 dekinai and I want to watch something fairly difficult without subs instead of slice of life?
I like slice of life the most I think, but I'm getting burned out like fuck recently. Barely have any patience for half an episode

>Admittedly rake jcat twice
>still get 84%
lolol

>>21048136
three of those are ichidan verbs and one is a godan verb. Your conjugation of 寝った is wrong, its 寝た. Accordingly the Ichidan verbs all end in た and the one Godan verb you had ends in った

小惑星を学ぶのが大好き

>>21048191
小学生を学ぶのが大好き

>>21048136
It doesn't. 寝る becomes 寝た and 着る becomes 着た.
Also pretty sure every guide tells you this, but some verbs that end in "ru" are actually u-verbs.
Like 参る turns into 参った.

>>21048110
https://youtu.be/8r4NjebYf7g?t=2216
Show me one wrong answer.
Don't tell me you don't have three minutes to watch the vocab section when you're shitposting here.

>>21048108
how does it ever even matter?

>>21048136
>>21048186
And I'm heavily assuming your きる is actually 切る and not 着る or else it would be 着た as well. Jus magical.

>>21048200
>>21047598

Stupid question, but is there a way to review how many new cards you have went through in Anki?
I wanna know how many new words I learned so far

God-tier reason to watch anime:
>learning 日本語
Acceptable reasons to watch anime:
>animation
>cute girls
>fanservice
>lolis
>shotas
>escape from real life
Retarded reasons to watch anime:
>plot
>philosophical depth
>storytelling
>realism
>engaging character development
>to shit on it later

>>21048211
you dont know that till its at least matured and you're retarded if you didnt know that

>>21048170
productivity doesnt matter

rip the anime greentext post it was mostly bad

>>21048170
It's only counterproductive, to me at least, if you can't learn something beneficial from input. If it's difficult in the sense that you probably won't understand much, but there's a lot of beneficial stuff you could learn, that doesn't seem counterproductive

if u wanna do it its not counterproductive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kMJKiSUXUs

this thread has taken a bad turn we need a banger god damn it

i posted the banger

>>21048257
debateble

How do people here slavisly stick to some fantasy plan on what media they should consume? Nigga just do whatever the fuck you want.

I read / watch / play whatever I feel like and worry about figuring out the Japanese while I do whatever it is I want to do. Why do people make everything so complicated?

>>21048273
now this is a post i can get behind

https://streamable.com/s3yep

>>21048273
umm immerse more which is known to us all so..

>>21048273
his guts are missing in my imaginary adventure

What the fuck?

Define immersion.

>>21048273
>Nigga just do whatever the fuck you want.
we'd all stop learning japanese tomorrow if we did this. don't give advice.

>>21048307
bring on teh eros fuckboy

>>21048136
>why the hell the past of 寝る becomes 寝った
It doesn't, it's 寝た
>and きる because きった
it would help to specify the verb you're talking about, as multiple verbs use きる
>shouldn't all of them just end in った?
Why would they? What says they all should? (These are the questions you should be asking yourself, then look into them)

It's best, in my opinion to think about verbs that end in る as either being いる/える verbs, or not いる/える verbs. If a verb has the final sound いる or える (走る, 見る, 知る, 食べる), then it MIGHT conjugate regularly. By regularly I mean 見る for example 見た, 見て, etc. If you don't like me using "regularly" that's fine, but just know that I mean by dropping the stem off and then adding the endings. But there are exceptions, like 走る and 知る for example (知った 走った, etc etc). These exceptions are pretty rare though. And verbs that end in る, but don't have the いる / える sound at the end, like 成る (なる) for example, they conjugate like the いる える exceptions (なった, なって etc etc).

i cant believe u thought u had something else of value to say to warrant writing that post for something that had already been taken care of

>>21048311
>we
Nice delusion. Sucks to be you.

>>21048372
>it's not a tiny minuscule fraction of learners who find it boring to consume shit they don't understand
talk about delusion

>>21048387
Who are you quoting?

before u fight i just want u all to know ur retarded and im smarter wealthier and more handsome than u

protect urself and obey my commands at all times lets have a clean tardfight

>>21048371
>had already been taken care of
>thinking clarifying which verbs were godan and which were ichidan verbs actually solves the problem
できないやつだねぇぇ

i shut u down like 2 threads ago dont @ me like i havent forgotten

u havent forgotten* those keys r 2 close together

>>21048403
>議論がない

>>21048307

>>21048400
oh it's the retard who kept writing 漢字を読めない that explains a lot

>>21048397
wealthier and handsomer? likely. but smarter? no way in hell buddy i've smashed you too many times now

If you guys could find a single mistake in Matt-sama's jcat the streamable link would be permanently added to the OP but instead you're forced to settle for snipping out two questions where he complained a little before giving the right answer.

>>21048421
>forgetting that was proven to be natural
>not having an argument
できない

>>21048432
it's already been established that no one here has scored higher, and future results from here can't be trusted because of cheating.

>>21048422
So do you know Japanese yet?

>>21048461
no and i don't plan on learning it. this is DET

>>21048467
>no
Good.

>>21048471
glad someone else is on the same wavelength. best stuff gets translated already.

>>21048090
>More confirmation that JCAT is a random number generator.
maybe it takes time taken for each answer into account

>>21048422
i cant think of any times mostly cuz im 2 busy owning feel free to try tho any time any place step up to get noogied by ur nice uncle : )

>>21048474
Don't get me wrong, I've already learned it. I'm just glad you won't.

What's with these two 通り魔 damaging the 平和 itt

>>21048479
you realized how pointless it was and appreciate my high IQ decision not to do it. makes sense thank you

we still havent made it back to anything resembling heiwa dude

the last few threads are going to take months to recover from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WaMgpAwM7A

>>21048482
I suppose we can leave it at that.

>>21048492
i'm not leaving shit buddy

>>21048003
LNs use a lot of words that are very uncommon in other kinds of books. がんばれー and take your time, anki is your friend.

if u were sincere about that u wouldnt have hit that post button

>>21048073
even if you are you won’t know lol. if you wanna know it’s better to use japanese text analyzer.

>>21048495
I am - done eating dinner and gonna go back to reading an untranslated VN on my PlayStation Vita handheld game console. See you around.

>>21048387
>everybody here hates japanese content as much as me
talk about delusion

>>21048507
you didn't even call me out on using the wrong word lol what an idiot japanese content sucks when you don't know shit

>>21048506
imagining georges wife saying this exact post as she xd out of that convo w. matt

>>21048495
but uve left so much shit in the thread already

>>21048513
i intentionally phrased my post in that way to invite a response like this so be thankful

>>21048511
if it sucks when u suck it will prob still suck if u ever dont
but ull never know cuz ull never not suck if u cant enjoy it now

Thinking of learning Japanese. Do I need to learn Chinese and Korean first or can I jump right into it?

it was never about japanese

u just wanted to feel close to something new

unfortunately u fucked up real bad and shoulda just got close to jesus instead

u could be on the fast track to heaven right now if u did

>>21048525
in the same way RTK doesn't teach you japanese but vastly increases your learning efficiency, that logic can be used to compel people to learn korean and chinese. so yes you should learn them.

RTGayers don't have a genuine response to this. gg

>>21048136
and this is why studying grammar is important, friends

>>21048170
it will be difficult and you’ll understand very little (20% or less probs) but if the stuff you’ll be able to pick up seems worth it then all power to you! i’d personally at least try going with japanese subs though

>>21048536
>learning Japanese doesn't teach you Japanese

>>21048539
its really not u would know this from just watching anime w. eng subs lol

>>21048397
nigga no one here is richer than me in wealth or intellect haha i’m おかねもち AND かしこい bitch

You wouldn't even get a change against me in a 西部劇. Keep dreaming bouzu

>>21048530
heaven isn’t real bro just meditate

How to regain focus when reading? I feel like after I've read about 10 pages my mind is just burnt out.

>all these dekinai sucking their own cocks when they can't even best Matt-sama

omoshiroi desune

>>21048547
define learning japanese cuz trust me 95% of u are not and the results speak for themselves

wheres baller sky guy i guess hes still playin tenshi ping pong while the rest of u jiggle ur codpieces while i have to watch it all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHiGbolFFGw#t=252

>>21048552
idk i was mostly shooting fish in a barrel w. the monetary wealth angle but im the levitating dude from the 311 down video lmao

anyway if u wanna empty out the pockets of ur heart ull find urs are infinitely emptier than mine

>>21048567
Read more.

>>21048575
>the rest of u
no love for my suffering

いちばんきちょうなどうぐ

>>21048598
r u the guy stuck in a eternal suckass vn that never ends lol

>>21048613
no there was a big breakthrough >>21044377
i even held ctrl for 20 fucking minutes for true end
its good if someone knows what i went through though

>>21048622
should go with one from the chart next time

tho that image was pretty good lol

>>21048575
>define learning Japanese
The acquisition of the Japanese language needed to read, listen, write, or speak in Japanese - it can be the acquisition of one of these aspects or multiple aspects (though these skills are, to varying degrees, inherently intermixed with one another).

>>21048650
now explain how ur doing this

>>21048631
thats the plan

>>21048659
that 1s pretty good it really did almost feel like the good old days

reminder: waito piggus can never truly learn japanese

>>21048653
rtk, reading news articles, watching native material (youtubers, shows, etc), listening to native podcasts

>>21048673
できないヤツは言う

>>21048567
train your mind to have stronger and more effortless attentional capacity and less distractibility.

>>21048659
btw it also has a actual banger op lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdB1YB4vPBM#t=81

>>21048674
asked for an explanation not a list of retarded things u do (some of which may be of some benefit)

>>21048673
dewa ii desu
watashi wa hanbun ratino desu

i dont think u understand how fucked up "ratino" looks lmao

>>21048682
an explanation of what? all you said was "now explain how you're doing this", which I clearly did. if you wanted something else be mad at yourself for not elaborating. I dare you to actually elaborate without bitching.

>>21048699
just read this post >>21048653 again and see if some ur cranial nerves and synapses and shit start firing lol

seems like ive already found the root of the problem based on what u just said tho

>>21048705
read it, answered your question.

>>21048714
then were back to >>21048682

god that op bangs tho lol

>>21048720
then we're back to >>21048699

>浴衣
>浴
>浴びる
Why do Japanese literally go into public in bath robes?

if i was truly heartless id just tell u to keep reloading ur save till u figure out the flag

but ill give u a hinto

ur at the river ur watching the water flow by studying it very intently

however this is not solving ur hydration issue until u get what its got and put it in u

i want u 2 explain that process of putting it in u

now keep in mind i can visibly tell u are very dehydrated and have ashy elbows and shit

Finally returned to learning Japanese after a 3 month break where I lost interest. Doesn't feel like my comprehension level has really gone down much, if at all, though I do feel like my reading speed has gotten pretty sluggish compared to what it was before. Hopefully I should be able to fix that before long though.

Anyway, I was part way through a VN when I quit, and despite thinking I was only about 50% of the way through it, it turns out the remaining routes are really short compared to the ones I'd already cleared (finished one of them in a single day yesterday and got about half way through one of the remaining two today).

Since it seems like I will probably have finished this VN by either the end of tomorrow or Tuesday, does anyone have any recommendations for what I could read next? Because of the huge break I took, I don't have anything lined up. I can handle slice of life content just fine at the level I'm currently at, so something a bit more plot-heavy (but not Muramasa-tier difficult) seems like it would be a suitable challenge at this stage. Don't really care about the genre, so long as the story and characters are good/interesting.

>>21048763
Try CROSS十CHANNEL.

imagine a nihongoer reading cross channel never noticing anything in how it reads lol and thats just the surface level

>>21048767
I thought that was supposed to be Muramasa-tier difficult?

>>21048784
the thing that makes cross channel so good is because its actually mostly easy and enjoyable to read before u know it the whole thing will be over

its one of those easy to get into difficult to master hentai games if u catch my drift : )

>>21048784
Don't worry, it only has 2271 kanji as oppposed to Muramasa's 3086. It's a breeze to read. See http://wiki.wareya.moe/TLWiki%20Stats

i just realized that because vns drop feed sentences i spend more time attempting to understand the sentence than i would if all the text were laid out in front of me on a page

>>21048802
so u mean u try to understand half of a sentence or something before clicking on ? lol

>>21048807
i mean that even if i get the gist of a sentence in a VN i'll spend minutes trying to understand why it means what it means instead of just inferring it based on the words used and the context. so it takes me forever to get through it.

>>21048813
so u mean u get stuck on a sentence but it makes more sense when u have the paragraph so to speak

yah i mean i get that but here try this when reading a epic hentai game

skip the mental step of "trying" to understand

just read the shit

eventually ull see where things are going much faster that u prolly wont have this issue

>>21048790
>>21048794
Alright, might give that a shot then.

If anyone has any other suggestions though, I'm still open to them.

is it impossible to type 人妻 with windows ime. I clicked auto convert option in advanced settings too

>>21048827
To get づ you have to type du. It's fixed like that. So you need to put "hitoduma" in the IME.

This handy guide points it out: http://nihonshock.com/2010/04/12-japanese-ime-tips/

like oh my god guys its impossible to type 気づく w. windows ime like i totally clicked whatever in the settings too

>>21048794
>http://wiki.wareya.moe/TLWiki%20Stats
What's with the lack of correlation between line count and file size here? How is it that ChuSinGura 46+1 with its 346,498 lines has a smaller size than Kikaijikake no Eve -Dea Ex Machina- which only has 45,143 lines? Which statistic is the better indicator of length?

btw link the hentai u were lookin for my ninja lol

>>21048827
IMEs use this romanization instead of Hepburn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon-shiki_romanization

>>21048849
Not sure, but TLWiki stats are inconsistent because they were ripped by various people through different methods. http://wiki.wareya.moe/Stats is more reliable but has less stuff.
>Which statistic is the better indicator of length?
Script size.

>>21048849
NVL vs ADV.

>>21048852
this chart is more complete for babys first ime

>>21048108
ドアが開く
ドアを開く
its that easy man

hiraku the tobira lol

>>21048857
>Script size.
By which you mean file size, right?

>>21048878
Both of those are ADV though.

>>21048108
Google. Search something like "開く　あく　ひらく　違い" on Japanese Google.

どうやってassを食べるの ?

>>21048919
貴方はゲイですね

>>21048849
ChuSinGura's lines were probably counted wrong.

まずは相手のbutt cheeksを開いて

>>21048933
まあね

>>21048108
This isn't a definitive answer by any means, but 1. it should be known that ひらく can apparently be used for both transitive and intransitive situations, and あく is strictly for intransitive situations (開く, not 空く or 明く) and 2. I looked up 「が開く」(intransitive) and all of the readings were あく, and for を開く (transitive) all of the readings were ひらく. So as a rule of thumb you're probably fine reading the intransitive instances as あく and ひらく for transitive instances.

>>21048962
I didn't clarify, I looked up sentences in jisho.org using 「が開く」and 「を開く」 and those were my results. Just so we're 透明

ドアが悪

>>21048967
i think what u wanted to say here was 明確 unless u were talking about ur skin tone

>>21047707
nah
>>21047722
yea

>>21047771
pretty much >>21047842

adding daily cards is gonna suck ass no matter what if you're behind
adding cards is essentially useless if you're behind on review, whats the point of learning something new if you haven't mastered what you need to first

>>21048108
how do you know how "read" is pronounced? context

>>21048996
no, I wanted to make a pun. I know 透明 is used with physical attributes

>tfw bought genki+wanikaniand already learned hiragana+katakana and some kanji in 1.5 months thank to it
Feels fucking great man, I’m going to start speaking in Japanese now and forming my own thoughts to reach fluency more quickly

>>21049030
is this bait

>>21049030
literally worst b8 of 2019. go back to the drawing board

>>21049028
oh uh ok but no one is gonna see it that way because u were literally referencing jisho.org in ur post which immediately makes u look retarded

>>21049035
cry more

>>21048782
When you say "how it reads," do you mean like stylistically? A masterwork that can only be appreciated after reading enough normal stuff?

lol you guys are so insecure

projection

>>21049040
its nothing that serious if u have any sense of what poetry sounds like ull get it right away

the masterwork discussion is for all the below the surface goodies : )

>>21049039
sry didnt mean to own u so hard maybe u could 開くur 心 and forgive me haha

>>21049052
皮肉なこと

whats a good site to download raw manga

皮肉にもわたしはゲイ

>>21049040
To put it very simply, Romeo is far more intelligent than anyone reading this thread, including myself. There are a great deal of very high level concepts in Cross Channel and any aspiring reader is going to need to accept that he probably doesn’t understand it all. From there, you reach the point of actually researching and interpreting all this shit, which could take years, honestly. And then you also have to consider that the vast majority of people just don’t have the level of reading comprehension or education necessary to really start to approach interpreting and understanding Cross Channel on anything but a surface level.

>>21049072
not gonna lie all i was thinking about was nanakas drawers while reading that post

im still just thinkin back to what a fuckin experience this writing was

>>21049035
woah dude, autistic dekinai who are never gonna get fluent in Japanese are gonna think I'm stupid? omg nooooo I'm so distraught.

cant we all stop fighting and be iidati

can’t wait to play this

>>21049068
just google the name of the manga in japanese + “.zip だうんろーど”

>>21049130
Pc version has option for both jp text and dialogue, if you didnt know

can’t wait to play this

>>21049149
i'm just imagining how long it would take me to read through those long-ass rape sequences with a text hooker and a baby tier understanding of the language. in the english version they already felt neverending, yeesh

invoking the old masters to ask a stupid beginner question:
how do i stop using guides and looking up recommended play orders for VNs?

>>21049189
>>21048273

>>21048530
jesus is always there for you guy

>>21049189
have u tried not doing that

Kats Rogo
Matt Bonder
Matthew Hawkins
Benjamin Yang
Luke Truman

>>21049320
someday ill be on that list without even having to pay them to talk to me

>>21049189
why would you? games usually have an important play order (for games with a single writer, or any non moe/nuki ge) OR only two routes matter (the true route and the other route the main scenario writer wrote)

>>21049102
Picked up.

>>21049333
I hope you do, DJTshitters have a 100% failure rate

>>21047986
Im pretty sure it means the same as "isn't it?" at the end of a sentence

>>21047581
working on homework for a japanese class im taking. the assignment is to write about your hometown
trying to make a sentence that uses the format of
(more than two things) の中で(one of the things)が一番(something)です。
does this sentence make sense?
ニューヨークはきれいくないと(insert my tiny hometown here)は大きくないからニューヨークと(insert my tiny hometown here)とボストンの中でボストンが一番大すきです。

>>21049441
Feels pretty awkward, but not too grammatically incorrect.
Conjugating きれい like that is completely wrong, though.

>>21049441
>きれいくない

>>21049441
あんまりよくないかなあ

>東海岸の大都市の中でボストンが一番大きな町です。

こういうかんじだよ

>>21049472
>>21049466
>>21049463
thanks.

I guess while I'm at it I'll ask another question.
We have to use either どこにも or どこかに in a sentence and this one also seems a bit weird.
私はどこかに大きい町を住んでいるつもりです。
I had already written the sentence without どこかに and threw it in after
I'm trying to say something along the lines of "I intend to live anywhere as long as it's a big city"
this sentence was originally supposed to check the box for using つもり

I'm having trouble understanding the text in the image.

静葉はどっち？

お姉ちゃんの方
中ボスの方
穣ってない方
(What does 方 mean here?)

私だってそれなりにあるんだからね

＊それなりにあるけど妹と比べられて気にしてるカンジでどうか

(Can you break down the meaning of these?)

>>21049495
かなりかえたほうがいい

>"I intend to live anywhere as long as it's a big city"
>それなりに大きい町に住んでいるの/んだ

Can someone upload 宵物語 please?

>can't stop translating everything to english automatically in my head
When does this stop?

>>21049582
after you’ve read and listened more

How do you explain the difference between それ and その? It's something that doesn't even exist in English, right?

今日花束貰った！嬉しい(*´ω｀*)

Anyone else can't wait for Matt to release
1. the epic MIA video - a 4 part video series or a single 35 minute video, will absolutely redpill you on the only real way to speak Japanese exactly like how a Japanese man would, complete with pitch accent and a native-like ability to read the atmosphere
2. the two fully fleshed out 5-stage MIA approaches, with every planned article and video finally being written and done, so you know exactly how to learn Japanese like a native every single step (maybe every single day) of the way

Anyone else can't wait for Matt to release
1. the epic MIA video - a 4 part video series or a single 35 minute video, will absolutely redpill you on the only real way to speak Japanese exactly like how Matt would, complete with pitch accent and a Matt-like ability to read the atmosphere
2. the two fully fleshed out 5-stage MIA approaches, with every planned article and video finally being written and done, so you know exactly how to learn Japanese like Matt every single step (maybe every single 瓶) of the way

>>21049701
Lol, do your Genki drills, rote memorize kanji, and keep watching anime with English subs. Scrub.

0/3

>>21049680
Stop posting about that autistic homo

https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/001341/files/49669_40537.html

When are you going to drop the games and novels made for little kids and start reading real Japanese?

Can anyone translate this please it's on a shirt I found

>>21049722
Only after 1 year of listening to Japanese without reading ANYTHING in it at all.

>>21049724
なんかかいてあるけど

あんまりたいしたことはかいてないとおもうよ

>>21049732
i don't believe you

>……ただ俺が、その場所の記憶とともに思い出すのは、別荘に持ち込んだドリー○キャス○でプレイした『サ○ラ大○』シリーズだったり、全話マラソン視聴した『君○望○○○』や『○月○○姫』のアニメだったりで、山奥の別荘に一週間も泊とまっておきながら朝から晩まで何やってたんだと自分を省かえりみずにはいられない
would anyone like to fill in the blanks?

How often is "you" or "your" implied in Japanese? I find that it's omitted quite often.

Imagine being so far into the autism spectrum you think immersion doesn't work

Immersion sucks~!

>>21049771
http://fuseji.net/

>>21049840
thanks anon.

yooshi, time for immersion

>BritVSJapan got an okay girlfriend 2 years into AJATT and has been happily immersing for close to 4 years now
>Nick was hardcore immersing for close to 3 years but ragequit because he got ostracized after outing the mainland Chinese TA-downlow prostitute "girlfriend" he was dating who was shagging one of the Japanese professors at his university
>instead of just moving to Tokyo or another prefecture (he was studying in some lame part of Japan) he flies back to murrica and doesn't want to have anything to do with Japan ever again

>>21049632
>That is a pen
>That pen is green
それ is the "that" in the first, and その is the "that" in the second. English is a dumb language for losing that distinction, even its closest relative Frisian still has it.

never really felt the joy of reading all my life till japanese

めっだまっやき

めだまっやき

おいしいと

うれしい

>>21049929
You'll also enjoy your unfixable gaijin accent for your whole life, since you decided to learn reading first.

Is it really hard for you to set up your room like this and live this lifestyle for at least 2 or 3 years to get native level fluent good in Japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Qxr8OGkaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34i9lr94pI&list=PLcQH2ZuCaXSZ0RrQZap_4r-oYiCaRB4vx&index=6

>>21049929
I know that feeling. I forced myself to like reading for the sake of my Japanese.

>have you ever taken the kanji KANtei?
Is this the power of MIA?

>>21049947
vocaroo dot com
toradora dot jpg

>>21049947
I've done a few thousand hours listening. Why make things up?

>>21049953
I hate listening though. I would rather just wear these and read a book.

>>21049963
After eight years of 100% immersion you'll realise that vowels are completely optional as long as the kougou of your words is clear.

If you could switch places with Matt and gain his Japanese ability, you'd book a plane to Tokyo and immediately start chatting up the qts in Shibuya and Ginza, you would.

>>21049903
So the latter is only used when you're describing it with an adjective?

>>21049988
ginzas all old women lol

>>21049988
if i was matt i wouldnt flirt for the same reason matt doesnt flirt the dude has a hard enough time with casual social interaction
and even ur master matt knows that knowing nihongo lowers your chances of hooking up in japan

who the fuck cares if Matt read 廣義 as こうごう when he should have read it as こうぎ - when it only happened once?
so what if Matt confused the pitch accent of 箸 for the one of 橋 - something that only happened once, and will likely never happen again?
meanwhile your accent is gaijin as fuck and will sound gayjin as fuck as long as you live

>>21050012
Matt's only real irl friend at this point is Yoga, picking up girls is not something he has a right to have a credible opinion about, Tkyosam does know how, however. Still Matt is an expert in learning Japanese to native-level fluency though, complete with pitch accent and ability to read the atmosphere.

>>21049988
Women got nothing to offer me why would I

>>21049990
それ is a pronoun, which means it replaces a noun or a noun phrase.
>[The fact that your niece is going to Italy to study artisanal olive oil making under tutelage of the Pope] is great!
>[That] is great!
その is an adjective, which means it modifies a noun or noun phrase.
>That man kicked a baby
>That jar of honey was sealed 2000 years ago
>That summer I went sky diving with Freddy Mercury
>That way of running is going to destroy your knees before you reach 40.
Which man/jar/summer/way of running? Not this one, THAT one.

>>21050043
I think I get it? My problem is I try to rationalize it with English rather than Japanese.

>>21050059
i dont know grammar but id just describe その as sort of the same except its attached to additional information
i want that
i want that pen
that is tall
that person is tall

>>21050069
>except its attached to additional information
But is this always the case with no exceptions? If so this makes more sense to me.

>>21050059
Just remember that この, その, and あの all have the possessive の. こ - here close to me, の - possessive 's. Here's pen, the pen belonging to things near me.

>>21050077
こそあどだよ

どぬけてるとおもう

>>21050059
If you kinda get it's time to stop worrying about it because it'll be second nature to you in no time if you actually spend some time with japanese

>>21049976
still appreciating this post

>>21049988
Yo why do people here still think its a requirement to get a Japanese gf to know Japanese? In fact the guys with the most broken as fuck Japanese get those Jap girls most often. And why? Because those women are out for a different experience. They are not looking for something Japanese or else they would just date a Japanese guy. The last thing they want is some foreigner pretending he's Japanese.

As for the ones who are not looking for something else, they'll never date a fucking foreigner anyways if all they want is a genuine Japanese husband. Know your target audience. If your motivation is to get fucking laid, doing any of this here is the most pointless shit you could possibly do. You'd be better served to spend the same amount of time on /fit/ and then just randomly go to Japan for a few weeks.

>>21050143
There are Jap women who are into western guys but don't like that they can't talk with them.

>>21049118
u can deflect everything except ur true sugata in the kagami lol

>>21049238
hes there for u 2 dude whenever ur ready

>>21049976
lol

>>21050021
u dont know enough japanese to make a convincing sounding post to argue from that side

>>21050143
u got issues

kyou no kotobah wa
髑髏

kyous anime wa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWqm6av_MCQ

jamalはゲイです

はい

Okay what's the cringiest "top" koohii story in your opinion

I vote for 労, at over 600 upvotes:
Those jocks who always tried to show their muscles in the schoolhouse are now the ones out there doing manual labor jobs while we sit here and learn Japanese. Ha!

i would never forget the bloody kanji, that's for sure.

>>21050370

>>21049929
rarepotato said if you don't like reading in your native language you won't like reading in japanese

and he was right. i'm screwed

idk who that is but i wouldnt say i like reading i just like reading shit i like and very much dont like reading the shit i dont

>>21050409
what are you in it for
>>21050420
better than i would have put it

>>21050370
https://kanji.koohii.com/study/kanji/favor

Nuke's story for "favor". It's cringey both in how it gets the stroke order wrong and that it's the most favorited story on the site.

>>21050430
the prestige

nuke chans aight tho

https://streamable.com/0ql94

>>21050431
>2007
>still studying N3 books

i dont like creating stories for remembering the kanji. this method is nice, but i feel like i waste too much time creating those... i just memorize the components and thats it

sometimes u dont even need a story

嬲

it just comes to u

>>21050458
I like 嫐る more

>>21050450
don't need to create stories. just use koohii's stories, maintain a retention rate of 90%, then slam dunk RTK+anki into the windows recycle bin when you realize how much time you wasted beyond the first 500

>>21050465
why thats less penises

>>21050370
>睾
>Tip: primitives given in the book are: blood + happiness. But should be: drop + eye (/net) + happiness. Story: As you squeeze the last drop out of your testicles you go cross-eyed with happiness.

Someone didn't understand that computer fonts are different from handwriting

>>21050475
does that not make it better

>>21050468
nah, i dont waste anytime. Even memorize those koohii stories seems like a waste of time. My retention rate is of about 93-96% and it takes me 10-15min (at most) to keep those on anki.

>>21050509
when u self insert as the girl it doesnt

>>21050515
you're either a super genius or you're not doing RTK and you don't know what you're talking about.

>>21050516
when i self insert as the girl shes レズ though

>>21050516
unless ur a bi girl

>>21050530
thats gross what u want is mad dick

>>21050531
girls cant even do anything w. each other but lick e.o clams or eat ass

>>21050543
we have hands and fingers ...? also, pegging

boys have hands and fingers and the best finger of all instead of using some silicone or whatever fakedick

>>21050449
wtf Nuke's been studying nip since 2007 and he's still a bluepilled /r/lrnjap redditard?

>>21050543
u forgot rub clams
the inability to do anything makes it much more passionate dont u think
u have to try way harder and longer

>>21050525
Im most certainly not a genius by any definition this word has lol
And yeah, I'm not doing RTK the way heisig intended. I just use the kanji on the front and keyword on the back. Just "reading", never writing them.

>>21050560
he wasnt studying japanese but he could get a phd in flashcards lol

how pissed is nuke about the mueller report

>>21050551
dont think your tranny dick can get hard enough to peg

>>21050560
no matt got him hes truly fucked now

>>21050563
scissoring actually just looks retarded have u ever seen it ? its like comical how much of a genetic failure scissorers are u almost wanna help them

>>21050143
Exactly this >>21050177
Wanting to speak Japanese fluently doesn't automatically mean you want to become Japanese. Matt and Nick fell for that bs "I wanna fit in I want nips to see me as a nip too waaah" while Khatz and Tkyosam decided to get the best of both worlds instead: a gaijin pass and being able to use their fluency when it suits them, i.e. to get better service, preferential treatment, easier permanent residency, etc.

>>21050569
oh shit thx 4 the reminder to avoid all mainstream mass media and just play videogames for the next like month at least lmao

>>21050564
>Im most certainly not a genius by any definition this word has lol
Obviously.
So you refuse to use your brain's ability to form logical connections, you refuse to take the extra two seconds per character to actually be literate somewhere down the line?
Why are you even """doing""" RTK? Just go stare at the character while learning vocab.

>>21050565
>watch Nuke's lets review japanese
>the most inane and asinine flashcard formats ever, timestamped sub2srs + cloze + morphman + pictures
lmao, can't get more autistic than that

>>21050571
I'm a cis girl...

>>21050577
honestly if u arent a fuckin rockstar or otherwise cool interesting dude being a japanese knower makes u instant second class citizen

never reveal ur power level

>>21050569
what is this mueller report?

>>21050585
i wouldn't take it this far but if he's just "staring at the characters" then doing lazy kanji or w/e the fuck he's doing is utterly pointless and he should just be doing core and reading more

>>21050574
in 3d its embarrassing but a good hentie dojun can make anything work plus no regrets until 賢者モード

>>21050585
Why did you get so angry? wtf lol
I think its obvious, but somehow you are still wondering. I do "RTK" because it makes much easier to memorize new vocabs. Isnt it the reason why everyone uses it?
And what are those 2 extra seconds per character you are talking about? writing? its not worth for me. If you like, please feel free to keep writing them. It must feel nice being able to write them for memory. I mean it. I just dont feel like doing it

>>21050572
I don't know how Matt is fine with Nuke and not the Jalup guy when they both sell premade decks, at least Jalup gets you to become monolingual eventually, Nuke just helps you become able to read Genki and NHK News Easy without furigana, at best.
Also how the fuck Nuke is a mod on Matt's Discord, Nuke been at it for 12 years and hasn't changed his muh Genki bluepill bs studying methods at all, which is the polar opposite of MIA/mAttJATT

>>21050596
well if its a henty dojy then theres much better shit to enjoy than 2 cunts black bars over them smashed together lookin like head on collision on the wangan lmao

>>21050564
>I just use the kanji on the front and keyword on the back. Just "reading", never writing them.
That's Lazy Kanji, you're not the first genius to figure that out, Khatz started peddling that in 2009 and Matt made it a core part of Casual MattJatt (aka the MIA Balanced Approach) in 2018.

>>21050610
i just aint a huge cock lover u know but i respect other tastes

>>21050604
Except you're not doing RTK, or anything like it. Doing RTK means using mnemonics to anchor components to a keyword. The mnemonic will introduce a logical reason for the character to be the way it is, making it stick easier, and you will almost automatically be able to write it.
You're just cramming radicals. How many are you able to do a day?

>>21050630
im just sayin when it comes to cock the more the merrier

i mean its just basic math when u add more cocks the fun multiplier increases

what do more vagines do ? nothin

>>21050620

I used to think this is what people call lazy kanji. But a couple of weeks ago, an anon proved me wrong linking me to a khatz post where he was teaching this lazy kanji method, and it basically consisted of keyword on the front and kanji on the back, but passing as good even if you got a couple of things wrong. Which, for me, it seems like quit a shit method, but whatever, right

i mean think about it u cant put ur dick in2 2 vagines but u can put 2 cocks in a vagine

its just simple fuckin math

>>21050645
i get what ur sayin but too many vagine makes my dick harder than too many dick i cant do nothin about that

>>21050632
Yep. Perhaps I should be more clear about it. I just use Rtk keywords and kanji components names. Also the Rtk list which is in a very well structured order. Is it better now?

About how many a day, I used to add 30 daily. Now I just do the reviews, which is around 150 daily, while also adding kanjis not on Rtk using the previous components

everytime i do my rtk reviews and see nukemarine mentioned in 2007 I laugh my ass off

sorry nuke

>>21050659
what if the vagine was urs ? think about it as ur anus quivers at the thought of being the girl in a bukkake porno

>>21050663
I deserve it.

>>21050484
the books are about learning handwritten kanji from memory yet the book constantly provides the printed font primitives

really makes one think

>>21050663
try to focus on your own studies and not on whatever another person is/was doing. It might improve your skills, just saying

when i do rtk a second time i'll treat 言 as "microphone" since it's easier to visualize than "words" or whatever my mnemonic was. thanks nuke.

>>21050680
so stop deserving it and become a rippana nihongo guy

u can start by watching this >>21050272

u can even read the light novella too

まずこれ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbp7HlmIQbg

>>21050671
u dont even need to be a girl to have 3 or 4 dicks in u but maybe u do for 5 or 6
i havent thought about self inserting covered in tinpo miruku ill have to think over it
i respect it and read some of the dojos here and there but ur undersellin some uses of vagine

>>21050684
>>21050484
theres two different ways of writing this. realistically all the printed forms can be handwritten in that way and people do write them like that irl. even characters like 令 are written by 30% of japanese the printed way (according to MEXT sample surveys)

>>21050680
no you don't, not really

especially when i use your stories so often

but i can't help it, sorry




the best thing about koohii stories is that half of them are about the iraq war and george w. bush etc.

so last decade so natsukashii...

>>21050690
I imagined that primitive as a scroll with words.

>>21050709
that's not blood tho

so the koohii story is right

learning both ways is asinine, and learning the printed way, the less common way is asinine

>>21050706
ive seen some shit with ears and eyesockets dude u wouldnt believe

also jizz is the magic juice

also ill give u the floor to sell us on why u think cavernous bologna sandwiches are the truth cuz im interested for ur take

>>21049320
but whats dolly's full name?

>>21050731
pedro pendejo

>>21050727
it's not really clear which way is the most common way to write rare characters though. most people arent going to know which one of these is actually correct because dictionaries usually have the non-blood one. presumably blood is actually correct though.

>>21050731
Chang

>>21050731
Cure Dolly

>>21050736
why is MEXT so worthless and can't standardise this shit

cuz its not a big deal unless ur a fuckin gaijin shitter

>>21050028
>Matt is an expert in learning Japanese to native-level fluency though
How is he an expert? It took him at least 5 years given the information we have, probably more that he's not owning up to. Does doing something once make you an expert? If he used his methods to learn another language in the amount of time he's claiming then I'd consider calling him an expert, right now he's just someone who Made It and thinks he knows what's best now, actively shitting on more acclaimed research like Krashen and Asher.

>>21050709
It is just as stupid as writing 'a' and 'g' in printed form

>>21050764
who gives a shit if it took him 5 years to become the best gaijin there ever was? you won't accomplish what he has in 20 years you pathetic little shit.

>>21050764
sorry u definitely cant call this dude an expert LOL https://streamable.com/gvk0o

>>21050773
>Who cares if it took him 5 years?
You should since he lies and claims you can do it in 1 year doing what he did.
>Best gaijin
It's not hard being better than people like Nuke, most of the people Matt's level also learned Japanese modesty and aren't leeching off people's money for "Talking With Me Rights".

>>21050788
>and claims you can do it in 1 year doing what he did.
no he doesn't. the fuck? he says it takes 3 years minimum to get fluent.
>most of the people Matt's level
only person like that is dogen and that's just in terms of pitch accent. matt is on a whole other level when it comes to foreigners who learned japanese as adults while living outside japan.

>>21050795
matt is still a child and definitely started coming into contact with japanese as a child so if ur gonna write ur thinly veiled fake praise posts at least get ur shit right retardo

>>21050788
>You should since he lies and claims you can do it in 1 year doing what he did.
Matt claims it will take 5 years to master a language to the level that he has based on his most autistic method (Perfectionist Approach).
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-0/perfectionist-path-overview/
>With the exception of Stage 5, which has no tangible end, each stage is estimated to take the majority of people between 6 months and 1 year to complete.
The same amount of time it took him personally.

>>21050771
it's obviously not lol. you're retarded if you think so. the distinction between those two is entirely arbitrary. many many japanese people wouldn't be able to tell you which was the printed and which was handwritten of some characters (MEXT has done surveys on this too)

>>21050802
when i say adult i just mean beyond the critical period. he is a master.

>>21050802
Matt tried AJATT for the first time in late 2010, when he was 15. He declared July 23, 2011 as the official start of his AJATT journey, at age 16.
So he wasn't a child when he started, since the EZPZ Language Learning Child Magic ends at age 12.

>>21050812
oh i didnt realize u had to do ajatt in the critical period too LOL

>>21050728
when ur bringin in eyesockets and ears theres really no limit
ur already halfway there when ur self inserting with a nikutubo to fill with magic juice instead of the holes ur blessed enough to have already
i prob cant sell u on it the same way u cant sell me on pic related
u just have to feel that desire

tho i will agree he never came into contact with japanese in the "ezpz" period cuz hes still so suckass u can tell he looks at japanese and converts it all to english in his mind thats why he fucks up so much on the actual japanese part of it but is able to convert general abstract meaning to english fine cuz he did rtgay or w/e LOL

Daily Matt Thread

i literally only come here to discuss matt and other japanese learning e-celebs

coming here to actually learn something is absolutely worthless, but it's a great place to gossip

we post about him so much but he doesn't give two shits about 4chan. makes you think

>>21050827
i mean i guess i can understand multiple vaginas if ur workin a few girls like finger puppets but like look theres no parades with vagina floats

they proudly roll down the streets with giant dick floats

theres a good reason for this

why are you reading 4chan and not that book you started?

>>21050774
>fall
>I suck at seasons
>what's haru in english?

he cares a lot about his haters etc. which is just a facet of his autistic mentality

why do you think he started meditating

but i'm not a hater i'm a fan

desu i make that mistake all the time

not in my mind, but in vocalising the proper word

but i'm an ESL and a japanese beginner

whatever, i don't judge a nigga when he livestreams shit

>>21050860
the funny thing about this 1 is u didnt even use the right word *grammatically* in ur retard meme image LOL

>>21050871
thats just the surface level lol the true lol came well before that part

>>21050884
>the true lol came well before that part
When he says that it's a trick question?

>>21050560
you can’t really blame him desu, the dude is quite old

>>21050889
ill help u out

pretend the question is a wheres waldo puzzle and きせつ is waldo

>>21050866
u gotta get everybody involved maybe thats ur disconnect u gotta be the center
disembodied vaginas look fuckin stupid thats why u need the whole picture to appreciate but by contrast dicks look better alone

>>21050894
lmfao

tho

desu

https://streamable.com/l6h0h

i don't give two shits about 4chan either desu

>>21050884
but it's not my image dude why the hell would you insult me for it? not cool

>>21050820
Matt started AJATT 3 years after the Critical Period, you low IQ Genkitard

>>21050859
>coming here to actually learn something
Got you bro, here's the only link you need
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-0/perfectionist-path-overview/
Do it from beginning to end

>>21050914
sorry ur guilty by association

>>21050926
? why did u @ me

i just ate some of my mom's brownies and i shouldn't have because my stomach is feeling a tad bit weird to the point i got distracted from what i'm reading to post this.

>>21050812
Learning a language in your teens is still significantly easier than learning it after ~25

>>21050934
already did

am fluent

How to learn Japanese
https://youtu.be/XcSPFZ1tGJE?t=1316

>>21050945
congrats u ate ur moms fentanyl brownies and ur going to die lol

>>21050947
>is still significantly easier than learning it after ~25
lol no that's just on average because some people hit puberty later than others. but you can tell matt was a full blown man when he was 16 if you check out his old vlogs.

>>21050966
lmfoa

time to dig out the classic look at these chompers

>>21050957
can u believe the anon who didnt want to read kanji was just maintaining his uncrippled accent

Reminder that music is the surest way to improve your listening comprehension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf4U3sIggdk

>>21049499
お姫様よりも君の方が好き
それに、それなりに「好き」ですから覚えておきなさいよ
君だって好きじゃなくて、君だから好きなんですよ

>>21050957
How about actually studying instead of listening to some basement fucker talk shite?

reminder u will never be good enough to critically think on ur own

https://streamable.com/jqr1d

>>21051019
wtf is this

not djt eceleb can't watch

fuck off

I already went through 3 study sections and you guys are still talking about matt, about shit, and not studying. Can it get more dekinai than this?

it did as soon as u pressed the post button

>>21051052
>3 study sections
Might as well slit your wrist. Studying with Genki is literally self-harm.

>>21051019
*Premature Reading Warning*
*Only Watch If You Have Confirmed 1,095 Hours of Active Listening*

>>21051056
Genki? Thanks, but not thanks.

>>21051063
sometimes u gotta put em in deeper end (this isnt even that deep its high schooler tier shit)

>>21051052
if u didnt learn kisetu and tosyabutu from following along its ur own fault

>>21051052
>3 study sections
haha

>>21051019
i can read some of the sentences in this but can't understand them when narrated. am i not gonna make it?

>>21051077
lol

>>21051092
can you explain why is it funny?
Whats wrong with study sections? I don't believe people are productive for long terms (at least I can say for sure that I am not).
So I divide it in study sections of 20~25 minutes.
Would you mind telling me why it is funny?

>>21051098
she talks like shit but pretty fuckin normally

>>21051098
you just need more listening practice

>>21051098
From
March 25, 2019 to March 25, 2020
Watch anime all day everyday, convert it to audio and put it on your mp3 player if you have to leave the house/do something else
From
March 26, 2020 onwards
That's when you start reading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd6rXueq8N4

やれ。

なにを

>>21051203
妹を。

だからなにをするかわからん

妹をやれよ

やれってなにを

If you lrn2read before you lrn2listen
Instead of your brain using pure sound (that sounds completely Japanese) to understand
Your brain uses words in your head (that have been tinged with English sounding Japanese) to understand instead
https://youtu.be/HXzrkX3apOk?t=4883

they didnt listen to me when i told them about perma crippling their brain

maybe if nothing else matty boy can be the poster child for that