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talk about fate requiem

where the fuck are my h scenes at in HA

Did you guys put a sfw version in the pastebin? I only have the himuro one and I've done a fuckton of events.

>>20997170
Oh yeah and the caren one was censored as well.
Fix that shit please, I'm really horny right now after HF2

>>20997179
Are you using the voice patch? If so that's why since its from the vita version of the game.

Why are American audiences so bad bro.
It felt like I got trapped inside an facebook anime meme page comment section.

>>20997432
Huh, I thought for sure the voice patch worked on the original version of the game.

Now that Lost Butterfly has screenings in the US, we should have more people with opinions who were holding off on the camrip.
What did you think of the movie? How does it compare to other TM adaptations?
Are you excited for Spring Dream next year? Do you think it'll do the VN justice?
How was your theatre experience?

Personally, I really loved it, since my expectations were quite low after the first. Now I'm afraid I'm overhyped for the finale.

>>20997452
I liked it quite a bit. I really liked the horror bits with the Shadow. Pretty good among TM adaptations, really like the original bits it added like Illya overhearing Taiga talk about Kiritsugu, and fan service like Illya's FHA jump.

I thought the Saber Alter and Berserker fight scene dragged on a bit too long, and that time from that could have been better used elsewhere, like Shirou getting Archer's arm attached, which got skipped over hard.

The theater experience was mostly decent, but too many people couldn't hold in their comments whenever erotic things happened. I can take some immature chuckling and laughing, but holy fuck, I don't need several sentences on what you thought about the scene.

>>20997487
Honestly, the Saber vs Berserker scene genuinely impressed me, they successfully conveyed how Saber had access to unlimited mana reserves and could just spam Excalibur. The way Herc moved was awesome. Also glad they didn't mess with her character from the VN.
I think the movie just needed to be a tad longer, for the arm scene and for Die Lorelei. Still, they did a pretty good job, I'm just not sure how well the events of the 3rd would fit in 2 hours.

>several sentences on what you thought about the scene.
For example?
I think this movie is ideal for exposing modern Fate fans, and what they've come to expect from the shitty state of the franchise, to what old Nasu used to be like. Not surprised you got some weird reactions.

>>20997514
>For example?
I wasn't really paying attention since I was trying to watch the movie, but the finger sucking scene had some autist ranting about how it was changed from the original VN scene and that they should be having sex, and Shirou was cucking himself or something.

>>20997519
God, that's fucking annoying. Finger sucking is core Nasu.

>>20997514
I realize that it's an original scene but I heard someone say "nani the fuck" out loud during Sakura's dream sequence. These latecomer types are awful.

>>20997536
I wish they could have cut the dream sequence shorter for a clipshow on Sakura's candy rampage in reality, but I guess it would have overlapped with the Shadow's beautiful citysweep.

>>20997546
I think they wanted to keep her massacre more creepy than gory.
The dream scene is fantastic in its own way, I especially love the Servant plushies.

Rest in glory, my scaled aquatic friend.

https://youtu.be/atXSCq9Mk8Q

>>20997526
>the finger succ was animated hornier than the actual erotic scene
based ufotable

>>20997620
She's incredibly lewd, I'm glad they portrayed that well.

>>20997452
Objectively it's a good movie but I expected much more. I hated that original scene with Illya overhearing about Kiritsugu. It was just lazy and dumb. Give me a proper development, not those excuses.
All my favorite scenes were either lackluster or not adapted at all. I wasn't satisfied.

>>20997647
How is it not proper development? Illya gets to learn exactly what was going on with her dad (which she really doesn't in the VN). That certainly helps in explaining her forgiveness of him. And even Taiga gets a bit of spotlight this late in the game.
I doubt I'll sway you on this, but I'm the exact opposite. I'm surprised at how often this film managed to surpass my expectations, despite the years I spent imagining what it'd be like.

https://www.delightworks.co.jp/games/boardgame/dominate-grail-war/
New FSN board game by DW for 15th Anniversary

>>20997668
Because in the VN Kiritsugu was a long dead faceless character. He wasn't really important.
What was important, though, was Illya and Shirou's relationship. The movies didn't do justice to it.

>>20997710
I don't think it's bad to take Kiritsugu into account though, now that he's more fleshed out, especially because he is an essential part of Illya as a person.
I do think they haven't done nearly enough to establish Shirou and Illya's relationship compared to the VN, one of my few complaints with the trilogy so far.

>>20997647
Glad to know I'm not the only one who felt like it was a major cop out and a lame way to be able to cut the Die Lorelei shopping trip.

>>20998336
A lot of HF is originally dedicated to Illya being able to slowly grow past her hatred of the Emiyas and learn to see Shirou truly as his own person and family, becoming a mentor and older sister figure for him by the end of day 12. Kiritsugu may have been a little more fleshed out, sure,but it was at the cost of removing the moments where Shirou and Illya truly came to terms with their relationship with one another.
Part of the reason I feel like PF was better than LB was because all the original scenes in PF added to our understanding of the main characters (Sakura and Shirou's past and how they met), while LB's extras scenes felt like they took away from characterization by being convenient ways to skip over scenes and character developments that they didn't have time for (Shinji's fluorescent bottle scene used in place of his actual past, and Illya eavesdropping instead of the heart-to-heart conversation with Shirou on day 12).

>>20998546
There is no Shinji past scene in the VN anon, you're thinking of the manga.
Though that would've been cool, I'm sure normalfags would still hate him.
Anyway, I vastly prefer LB to PF since they actually delivered on the execution of the dark/creepy atmosphere that I wanted from the first. And had the balls to include all that sexual content.

>>20998629
I definitely remember some long monologue from Shinji's perspective in the VN detailing his and Sakura's circumstances in the Matou family. It's been 8 years since I've read it though.

Also, I think the manga is brilliant from starting out from Shinji's point of view because as a child, he is portrayed for the first couple pages as a dreaming underdog hero, someone who wishes to achieve greatness with his love of magecraft and hard work instead of raw talent. It then cuts to the present time, showing how truly warped of a person he's become when he's constantly getting dicked on by the world and reminded that he'll never achieve his one dream in life, despite him holding the same aspirations as his childhood. I wanted to root for the scumbag at a lot of points in the vn and manga because I just wanted the underdog to have his day and payoff.

Am I the only one who Shinji reminds them of Huey Hemmerich from MGS5?

>>20997143
Grandma is sexy.

>>20997699
Is that the Heaven's Feel manga artist?

>>20997446
You can, in fact, use the voice patch over the original PC version with the h-scenes. That's how I played it, but I played it years ago so I don't know what exact torrent to download. Just wanted to confirm that it is possible. The voice patch comes from the PS2 game, not the Vita game, at least the one I used. The Vita one wasn't out yet.

>be me
>decide to read through Tsukihime, since I figured I wanted to expand a little more than just Katawa Shoujo
>intrigued by the story, want to read more
>be 12 in the morning and at this point and I'm still reading it
>Arcueid dies, get revived, that sort of thing
>combined with my confused anger and 12AM mental state, I post the autism that is pic related
>"dude what are you talking about? Arcueid's best girl you retard lmao"
>continue playing, after I go to bed of course
>Shiki's autistic behavior becomes more apparent and understandable
>Arcueid seems genuinely kind, despite that Shiki is seemingly a murderous nutcase to her
>fuck it, Arcueid route it is
>get more invested in this fictional socially-awkward vampire character
>Arcueid gets killed again near the end of the route
>oh god oh fuck
>did I get a bad ending
>revived later in the story because reasons
>oh thank god it wasn't a bad ending
>true ending happens
>wait shitfuck no come back
>get teary-eyed and shit
>realize that I went on such a rollercoaster of emotions that I went from hating the two characters to becoming emotionally invested in both
>realize that Tsukihime is amazing and I was just being retarded

>>20999008
>and to top it off, I went through all that on my fucking 2DS
Rate my setup /tmg/.

>>20998994
Yes. It was drawn by Task Ohna

>>20997552
Were those supposed to be servants? I don't get it. Saber being associated with a lion might make sense since Britain, but why the bear?

>>20997487
>I thought the Saber Alter and Berserker fight scene dragged on a bit too long
I think they did a great job of showing off Herc's God Hand and how he would not stay dead.
>and that time from that could have been better used elsewhere, like Shirou getting Archer's arm attached
Yeah, if you weren't familiar with Fate already, that part must have been a bit confusing. They should have made the movie slightly longer to incorporate a bit of the operation.

I enjoyed watching the movie but the guy next to me on one side was loud as hell and surprised about everything, and the group to my other side had not showered in days. It was a tough two hours.

>>20997452
The Alter and Berserker fight was so over the top and dumb that I had to hold back laughter. I'm sure what they were thinking with that.

The amount of secondaries in my theater was disgusting, and one dude was playing FGO the whole time. Kill all FGOfags.

>>20999155
fgofags are the new primaries

>>20999181
Unfortunately you're right.

>>20999012
How'd you do that? Thinking of picking up a 2DS soon.

>>20997452
I feel like the last movie is going to be kinda weird, since Shirou goes really hard on saving Illya but a lot of their relationship was cut here. They also cut the bit where Kirei says Sakura could hear them talking about killing her because "the church has an architectural flaw lol."
Overall, they're setting it up to be a Sakura route at the expense of everyone else, which sucks.

>>20999143
Floating in the river under the bridge, are a dog, a fox, a lion, and a bear, in that order.
Lancer, Caster, Saber, and Berserker got chomped. Archer was taken in by Illya.

>>20999008
Man, I decided to skip through Arc's route for the sake of finding a certain image, and all the emotion from the first time around is hitting me again. I want to have something new from Tsukihime, but there just isn't. Kinda making me want to go back to doing game dev, for some reason.

>>20999548
Oh, the bear was Berserker. Got it, I didn't catch that during the showing yesterday.

>>20999221
I ran it with VNDS, a DS homebrew application meant for running visual novels on the DS. Link below also includes a port of Tsukihime.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140218222855/digital-haze.net/projects/vnds.html

VNDS has a limited amount of allowed saves, and the music is as compressed as you'd expect. Unfortunately, you also need a DS flashcart to run most DS homebrew on the 3DS/2DS. The one I bought was an Ace3DS X.

http://ace3ds.com/ace-3ds-x-product.html

>>20996919
Reminder

>>20999674
What am I being reminded of?

>>20999934
That some artists think Arc+Ciel is a good ship despite them absolutely hating one anothet

>>20999008
I told you off in that thread and I'm glad you came around. Arc is precious.

>>21001112
Arc is one of my few salvations in life. I keep on living for her.

>>21001220
Me but a different character.
It sucks that they are being ignored, doesn't it?

>>21001242
I hate to beat a dead horse regarding F/GO but it sucks and I consider it lucky that non fate TypeMoon is largely kept out.

>>21001257
Sion wasnt lucky enough to be kept out.

Which version of This Illusion / Disillusion do you prefer?

>>21001290
Deen animes. I dont even know why but i cant brinv myself to hate it.

I'm pretty upset at the theatergoers laughing and giggling at anything remotely sexual. Legitimately ruined the experience for me. I fucking hate anime fans.

>>21001309
I've never actually seen the Deen anime, but I've seen Deen UBW

>>21001315
Deen anime is inacurate as fuck to the fate route. That said i feel they capture the tone and characters better than the ufotable adaptions.

>>21001321
I haven't seen Ufotable UBW either (well, I did watch the some episodes of the cour and a few episodes of the second but I couldn't continue because I'm a Gilfag). UBW is my least favorite route.

But yeah, I've heard the same thing about the Deen F/SN. I don't think they were going for appropriate Fate adaptation either, but rather tried combining routes or something because getting only one third of the story makes many aspects feel incomplete.

>>21001311
There were a few giggles here, but at the actual lovemaking people kept quiet for, which I appreciate because it was a genuinely well done scene. The finger sucking was kind of silly though.

>>21001341
Oh yeah, and a lot of people thought the scene immediately after was Rin realizing they had sex rather than her getting embarrassed over the nee-san thing. The honorifics went right over everyone’s head and the entire theater bursted into laughter like crazy. Even though I knew what was actually going on I couldn’t help but laugh.

>>21001290
Deen > Game > 2010 > (POWER GAP) > LiSa

>>21001311
You're not the only one https://twitter.com/Kurotsuki/status/1106728269783711746

America sounds like a bad time. I'm sure some people legit don't take it as seriously because it's an anime movie, so no way anyone would get mad over an anime movie.

>>20999008
That's awesome to hear anon, glad you enjoyed it. Hope you check out the other routes!

>>21001371
Every thread I’ve seen on /a/ has had people complaining about it in droves, I don’t know where these people come from, probably ubw secondaries.
It’s annoying since in any dumb hbo drama the sex is taken oh so seriously but a man making love to a woman he wishes to protect with his life is considered laughable. Fucking sad really.

>>21001333
Thats lretty accurate. They did the best with what they had.

>>2100138
I dont think i could watch it in theaters with these people.

>>21001290
DEEN anime's great but LiSA's still gets me pumped, I remember flipping shit when it started playing.

>>21001257
As do I, it is fortunate that what decent stuff left hasn't be tarnished yet.

>>21001333
I'm sorry but I find it hilarius that you would stop because you couldn't stand seeing Gil get destroyed.

>>21001438
Gilfags are insane, I’ve heard people saying that some of them literally walked out of the theater when he died

>>21001333
Gil literally jobs in everything though.
You should be used to it.

>>21001448
God I wish that were true. Secondary/tertiary Gilfags are the worst.

>>21001438
It's fine, I realize it's irrational too. I don't mind his defeat in HF at all, it's just UBW that annoys me.

>>21001450
Jobbing to JETS/paperwork/Liz is hilarious though

>>21001455
If we read everything besides fgo does that make us the new secondaries since fgo is the new main project?

>>21001438
>>21001448
>>21001450

>>21001497
Stop forcing this shit.

>>21001529
I'm just trying to save you bitter dorks from these miserable threads by introducing you to a far better chuunige.

>>21001542
I really liked Dies and am enjoying IkaBey. Doesn't resonate with me in the same way Nasu's old stuff does though.

>>21001548
The Nasu VNs have a certain charm that D.I doesn't, but I think that's mostly because of the girls. Dies Irae has interesting female characters but they're all fairly weak when it comes to waifu potential. I only cared about one heroine - and while that's true for Fate as well, the side girls (especially Rider) were interesting too, and the series has great SoL potential. D.I on the other hand only shines when it's about the LDO

>>21001542
And I'm not here because of chunni shit.
Stop being obnoxious.

>>21001571
It's not so much "waifu potential" to me. Ren and the main girls in Dies just aren't that interesting to me, I basically enjoyed it for some of the LDO members. That's also something that's better about IkaBey, the focus on them.
Meanwhile, in F/SN, Tsukihime, and KnK, I loved almost every single character.

>>21001573
Make me

>>21001600
Not your general.

>>21001605
THIS IS A RAID GINGER BOY. Hand over your craft essence and your 5star waifus and no one gets hurt
If there was anything worthwhile going on here my post would get buried

Ah shit, CrazyCloverClub drew a new Akiha?

What is ufotable gonna work on after HF is done? Fate route maybe? Original route? I feel they're gonna announce something this year cuz 15th anniversary and all.

>>21001700
I hope for Tsukihime or Mahoyo something.
I expect Fate or Hollow Ataraxia.
I fear some FGO shit.
If they wanna announce it soon before HF is even done, next AnimeJapan is in a week.

>>21001700
probably non-type-moon stuff, they have been testing the waters for a while

>>21001769
I think he meant TM stuff, they've already been doing non-TM stuff meanwhile, like Kimetsu no Yaiba next season.

>>21001242
Honestly being ignored is salvation in a way.
>>21001311
Western anime fans are just cancer. Easily one of the worst fanbases out there and it's unfortunate whenever you have to deal with them.

>>21001384
Well, most HBO fans are young adults or adults. Usually pretty normal people most of the time. They don't give a shit. Fans of the Japanese animation medium come in a few different flavors, but it mostly comes down to who is more overtly infantile than not. Also, many of them are fans in name only; that is to say that they're there for the social signaling, attention, and the comfort of being in a group. They don't have any actual admiration for the medium - to them it's this quirky little thing they're involved. Oh-so-whacky and, of course, their enjoyment of it is also laced in at least a little bit of irony. I actually consider these kinds of people far more infantile than some die-hard otaku. These kinds of people are also unfortunately the majority fanbase of TM in the West. It's kind of a shame.

>>21002068
>Honestly being ignored is salvation in a way.
If it means they will stay out of pandering trash, then so be it.

>>21001644
Cute Homura.

>>21001700
Fate/Something with an original anime scenario by Nasu

>>21001578
Nasu's best point is his character development, imo. That's the main reason FGO is mediocre, I think. Can't get interested in characters that get a few chapters in the spotlight before they disappear until some joke event later.

>>21001371
>I'm sure some people legit don't take it as seriously because it's an anime movie
I'm told that's just how the average American theater experience actually is, anime movie or not.

>>21001700
How about some Girls' Work finally.

>>21002359
I saw Captain Marvel last Saturday and it wasn't the quietest audience in the world, but the F/SN crowd yesterday was so much worse. Of course, Captain Marvel didn't have any sex scenes, but I've seen movies with sex scenes and people hold their shit together much better than during anime movies.

>>21002118
>They don't have any actual admiration for the medium - to them it's this quirky little thing they're involved
I wouldn't say that. I think many of them do like anime, and in this case, Fate, but they like it at a very superficial level. They like the waifus, the fight scenes, and maybe the overall story. Their appreciation for anime is very shallow.

>>21002432
It's the difference between liking anime and VNS and loving them. Your typical anime fan treats anime like how somebody would sports, It's just something to talk about, they're not exactly very invested in the medium. I've heard somebody suggest another person the HF movies over the VN because "They're shorter so they're better." It's all about consuming it as fast as possible so you can talk about it.

>>21002737
I legit despise people like this, I can't relate at all.
For instance, I'm not very into live action movies, but when I do go watch one in the theater, I still do my best to get immersed and take it seriously. And for the most part, the hobbies I actually spend time with are shit I'm really invested in, not just talking points.

It's quite sad that FGO has destroyed the fanbase to the point where its hyper-casual fans are attracted to something like HF movies, which are very in line with what old Nasu used to be like.
I can only hope Tsukihime never faces an issue like this. Imagine a great adaptation of Akiha's route in movie form, while people play FGO and talk loudly in the audience about a Tsukihime collab event and all the cool "FGO references" in the movie.

>>21002867
I agree I also hate it when people act like this. It shits all over a good story. I'm glad I missed heaven's feel because i'm sure I'd have to deal with that crowd. This is part of the reason I hope tsukihime never gets remade.

>>21002879
Anon, you won't have to read the Remake with other people. And if it's a VN rather than cancerous mobage that gets REALLY lucky, there's no way it'll reach even a percentage of the shitty fanbase Fate now has.
What I'm more weary of is new Fatefags clinging to Tsukihime when it starts getting new content, but hopefully they'll be in the minority.

>>21002886
Do you think that if Tsukihime got new content and a new anime at most it'd only get the attention Kara no Kyokai got?

>>21002910
Hopefully. Probably a bit more since it has more cute girls, but I don't think it'd be Fate-tier.
Again, the annoying thing to deal with will be FGOfags who cling to it, and Tsukihime shilling in future Fate works bringing in more cancer.

>>21002922
I think I could live a little with that. Having the inevitable ssr archetype earth fall in love with gudao/Gudako is gonna be annoying though,

Is Miiki from Little busters a bad copy/paste from Shiki ? Both have anemia and the names sounds pretty similar.

>>21001713
I can totally see Tsukihime or Hollow Ataraxia as a testbed for a series of non-linear streaming OVAs

>>21003946
Haven't seen it but you're gonna need more than that to convince me

>>21001380
I intend to do so after I get Arcueid's Good ending, since I heard that it ends a bit happier. I heard that the True ending is considered superior but I'm just a sucker for wholesome shit.

Just did a bit of research regarding Melty Blood in case if I ever end up playing it. Is it true that it continues off of a non-existent route from an upcoming remake that's never coming out? That's kind of retarded if true, I mean why not base it off of what seems to be the most popular one (Arc's True Ending) instead of just adding onto a timeline that doesn't exist yet? Either way, would I end up confused at some parts? Is there any homework I need to do beforehand?

>>21003999
His name is Riki I forgot.
There isn't much more to it to be honest.
Oh, Riki lost his memories from an "accident" too.
And he's a manlet with a frail body. But a true manlet, unlike Shiki.

>>21004149
>But a true manlet, unlike Shiki
What's a true manlet?

Is it worth playing the fate and ubw route if I watched the anime few years ago?
Or should I just skip to HF?
I'm day Day 7 on the first route, and some of it feels vaguely familiar

>>21004105
>Is it true that it continues off of a non-existent route
Yes
>would I end up confused at some parts?
No. The only confusing thing is Sion's narration style, and that's nothing to do with continuity.
>Is there any homework I need to do beforehand?
Read Satsuki's wiki article maybe. Other than that, no.

>>21004978
I'd say it worth it as it doesn't have the same feeling. Plus the fate route never was faithfully adapted. You need to to both to unlock HF route anyway.

>>21004978
Just watch the Deen anime

>>21005027
This but unironically

>>21001290
For me I like them all but Deens is my favorite of them
>the fucking saxaphone solo

>>21005023
Wait, I can’t just hop into the route? I thought the game was separated per realta nua

>>21004105
Nasu rarely ever does direct sequels to anything. What he wanted for Melty (and Kagetsu Tohya) is to base it off a route where pretty much "everything happened", so he doesn't have to deal with retreading plot points that were already dealt with.
Melty's story in particular is mostly focused on a couple new characters.

What full fledged video games capture the mysterious, romantic atmosphere of classic TM?

To start, the Souls series accomplishes feats of world building and emotional projection that are similar in spirit, but it doesn't quite have characters to match.

>>20999008
That's awesome anon. I recently re-read Tsukihime for the first time in many years and remembered how amazing a lot of it was. Just wait until you get to the far side. That's where the real shit is.

>>21006366
Nier Gestalt to some degree.

>>21003946
>>21004149
They are literally nothing alike other than the anemia-like thing. For the record, Riki technically has Narcolepsy not Anemia.

>>21006367
I really want to sit down and reread tsukihime again.

>>21002867
>It's quite sad that FGO has destroyed the fanbase to the point where its hyper-casual fans are attracted to something like HF movies, which are very in line with what old Nasu used to be like.
This has been happening with TM since the Zero anime aired. Blaming this on FGO is simply going for the low hanging fruit. Hell, even now we get Zerofags hailing it as the best thing since sliced bread because of how deep and mature it is because of dark undertones and it's an actual war by adults with Kiritisugu being the best because he uses guns while FSN is a high-school teenage power fantasy and Shirou is a generic harem lead.

>>21006720
Sorry to say anon, but Zerofags who treat Fate as ultra-serious business would've certainly been a better audience for the HF movies than the majority of the current fanbase.

>>21006726
Shit is still shit no matter if it watery or hard, it would be been the same no matter if they came thanks to Zero or FGO. This is mostly a matter of western "anime fans" being cancer in general. This stuff about cancerous noisy and respectful audiences happens in all anime movies that make it to cinemas. Hell, it happens even with normal movies. Western movie theater culture is simply ass.

>>21006720
Zero is a grimdark power fantasy and tons of people will just gobble it up while pointing to Shirou being retarded in Fate while ignoring the character development he goes through in UBW and especially HF. I like Zero for what it is and the anime adaptation did a great job on a lot of fronts but it doesn't hold a candle to the original.

>>21006575
I tried. The translation was too embarrassing for me on a re-read, though. Though I am a snob.

>>21006366
Majora's Mask?

>>21006848
>The translation was too embarrassing for me on a re-read
Just re-read it in Japanese like I did.

>>21006749
I wouldn't necessarily say it "doesn't hold a candle to the original." I mean, they both have their strengths and weaknesses in my opinion. I do think Butcher writes in a fashion that lends itself far better to television and I would much rather rewatch the Zero anime than the UBW anime. Butcher is also far more effective at pacing than Nasu (or most other visual novel writers for that matter) can ever hope to be. That being said, Nasu is simply better at themes, emotive writing, and atmosphere.

My friend who is a pretty big Butcher fan said he found LB3 to be extremely disappointing to him, though.

>>21006866
I'm still learning, but getting there. I have made a lot of improvements in the past few months I think. I'm absolutely not going to let myself be at the whims of inconsistent translators anymore. It's rather unfortunate how a fanbase as big as TM doesn't generate very many worthwhile translators. All the luck to the guy working on Mahoyo, but I plan to be reading it in Japanese maybe in a year (I hope)

>>21006905
VNs are too much of a pain in the ass for anyone to translate. Tsukihime isn't hard to read for the most part. The one spot I remember struggling with was Ciel's true ending. Not sure what was up with that, but that shit was written really strangely and abstractly (for me at least).

>>21002886
i don't expect it to be a mobage (though that is certainly possible) but i certainly do think it will not be a VN, or at least not in the way that people expect from TM. it will also most certainly be consolized (with an eventual/immediate steam release) and pander to newfags since Nasu cant help himself

i seriously doubt we'll hear anything about it for awhile though. maybe at least another 2 years before the possibility of new information, and that's assuming after Part 2 that Nasu doesn't immediately go off and make a new mobage and/or gets caught up in anime writing or other side projects first

>>21006944
I'm just being optimistic as usual, but I think at the latest, they'll announce new info at the 20th anniversary (which to be fair, is almost 2 years away, December of 2020).
But I'm hoping new info comes earlier.

The movie was okay, but I can't shake the feeling that these movies feel completely different than the VN for some reason, the atmosphere feels less mysterious or something, I think they're just too flashy.

>>21006893
>My friend who is a pretty big Butcher fan said he found LB3 to be extremely disappointing to him, though.
Chinkwank made Urobuchi lose his edge.

>>21007339
Thats how i feel about ufotable in general.

>>21006905
Do you mean you don't like the mirror moon translation ?
I don't know other type-moon works beside Tsukihime but it seemed to me the translation was good and had a deep enough level of vocabulary. What are the problematic matters for you ?

>>21007720
It reads like an ESL wrote it. Basically it fails to make use of the English language in an effective manner and sounds extremely dry and stilted.

iirc the translator was still learning English when they wrote it and were in high school at the time

>>21005429
>per realta nua
Ah, I admit I don't know about that.

are the VN torrents actually the glitchy messes that some people make them out to be?

>>21004105
IIRC, Melty Blood has two continuities.
The story mode in the first MB where Sacchin is dead.
The arcade mode in all the games where Sacchin is alive.
I think the supplementary materials(manga, drama cds etc) follow the latter.
Both are not based on any particular route.

>>21007915
Is there any actual confirmation that Sacchin was dead in the original story?
Don't remember that at all.

>>21007915
>even in the melty Blood story mode she doesn't get a route
Isn't it sad Sacchin?

>>21007925
I'm pretty sure she was dead. There was her ghost or something and Shiki got sad when saw it.

>>21008035
Damn that's depressing.
Maybe I should replay it, it's been a few years and Melty's story is one of the things I least recall.

>>21007976
At least she is currently appearing in Koha-Ace

I could honestly see Sacchin's route in the Remake having only sad endings, like Akiha's.
Maybe Shiki sacrifices himself so she can finally get to live in one of them.
Or Nasu could make the route legit lead into Melty Blood, even though that was originally a lazy excuse.

>>21007855
Akiha was so fucking great in Kohaku's route.
She changed from a great character to smug queen, but in a perfect way.

Look at this for god's sake. It is perfect.

>>21008271
I love type akiha

I am eating...I am eating...curry. Om nom nom, fresh, straight from the cook. It's piping hot and the steam from it burns my eyes a little, the smell is strong, and the flavor intense. "Oh Ciel, please give me some more, i'm still hungry!". I don't think i've ever come across curry as rich as this before, the flavor takes over all my senses. I can't take it anymore, I want more of this spicy deliciousness. I find the place it's coming from, its a hole, and I notice Ciel is looking the other way. The hole isn't big enough for me to use the spoon, but around it is soft tissue. I pull it open and decide to just use my tongue to scoop out the curry. I notice another area near the curry hole, dripping with something, so I taste it. The flavor is that of salty milk and coins, I quickly return to the curry to remove the taste. While eating the curry, I hear a gurgling noise...suddenly a hot gust of air billows out of the hole and the curry begins flowing at an amazing pace. The smell, the taste, the heat, it all comes pouring out of the hole with such force...soon it's all over my face and the floor, I'm slathered in it, enjoying it, loving it. I begin lapping it off the floor. My hands are covered in it, i begin rubbing it into myself. The heat is so intense that it begins to make my erect...as the curry pours out, I get closer and closer to . In the background I can hear Ciel moaning in discomfort.

Making Curry must be hard work

>>21008950
It's been a while, curryposter.

I finally found a rare image.

>>21009838
Fucking cute

>>21009852
It's funny, seeing another Koyama drawn Aoko really gives me the flutters.
Man, so much time is being wasted, and he is also being wasted, though I'm not sure whether he has gotten worse or is just phoning it in.
But this much makes me happy for now.

>>21002737
>I've heard somebody suggest another person the HF movies over the VN
To be fair, the movies are better than the VN in various ways, first and foremost how they're not actively biased against the heroine of the route.

>>21009838
Does anyone have the comic of Mahoyo's cast at the beach ? Can only manage to find some part of it but never the all thing.

>>21006942
I agree, but I also felt that was partially intentional to not spoil too much about the Far side routes.

>read mahoyo
>endless amounts of text about tea and food

this really is written by nasu.

>>21010962
>can read Mahoyo now
>but have too much autism and insist on re-reading literally every type moon entry I care about first
Maybe I'll get to it in the summer or fall at this rate.

>>21011002
sequels never anyway, you have literally until you die.

>>21010395
Retarded waifufags, they ruin everything, please go back to /a to defend Sakura.

>>21011333
Nothing wrong with defending Sakura, but to claim that the original story that defined her character was "biased against her" is pretty asinine.

>>21011357
Yeah, I don't dislike Sakura, but the movies completely cut anything that doesn't have to do with her, it's absolutely retarded to think they are better.

>>21010395
>first and foremost how they're not actively biased against the heroine of the route.
How is VN HF biased against Sakura?
It's her bloody route.

>>21011815
Don't try to reason with Illyafags.

>>21011815
I think he meant about how the visual novel can put confusing elements to create mystery and how it doesn't hold your hand to make you understand that Sakura isn't a bed person nor a goody-two-shoes. But of course, that means you need to have more than two braincells to figure that out but since Sakura used to be hated for misunderstood reasons, Sudou took the time to simplify the narrative in the movies so that these brainlets stop thinking that Sakura was directly killing innocents prior to becoming Dark Sakura.

>>21011858
>brainlets stop thinking that Sakura was directly killing innocents prior to becoming Dark Sakura.
Literally haven't seen this argument before.
Retarded either way.

>>21010774
It's in a mag/mats iirc.

What, in your opinion, are the best things to come out of the FGO-era of the Nasuverse?

>>21012044
Rin with less clothes on and Rin with less clothes on but blonde.
Absolute genius design.

>>21012044
I'd say the least worst thing would be that I learnt more about why I follow this stuff.
Now I spend much less time on studying TM, since there is nothing worth studying for me at the moment.

>>20997452
camrip? tell me more

>>21012128
There was a decent quality camrip uploaded shortly after the movie came out in Japan. A lot of the people who are not getting screenings in their countries have chosen to watch.
It's still up on nyaa, if you wanna check it out.

>>21007339
What are you on about? The atmosphere in the HF movies so far have been on point.

>>21012283
Some people are just never satisifed, anon. Especially when it comes to something as vague as "atmosphere", it's entirely up to each person's taste.
For instance, I don't think HF1 met my expectations of what should've been a super creepy, strange segment of the story, but HF2 did succeed in recreating a Kara no Kyoukai, HF VN-like mood.

>>20999149
It's as if they're fucking Servants and their fights are meant to be that chaotic and wrecking. I never understand this complaint about this fight and the Lancer vs True Assassin fight when ufotable showcases Servsnts' fights very well.

>>21012357
The problem with Lancer and True Assassin is them moving to a well lit and busy area to fight. Other than that it was Lancer pushing him around as it should be.

>we will never get a route where shirou teams up with shinji

>>20998826
What ps2 game is this?

>>21011858
>sakura isn’t a bed person
Doubtful

>>21012600
She can be naughty at times.

Empire of Dirt is more like what Grand Order should've been like.
Discuss.

>>21013340
>is more like what Grand Order should've been like
An eternal work in progress but never released? FGO should have been the Tsukihime remake of Fate?

>>21013408
Would've been nice, I mean the original project was already canceled and re-adapted.
So it was already at least 3 years late.
But in seriousness I mean the format it should've been in for the most enjoyable and worthwhile content.

>>21013340
An actual game with care and effort, that (hopefully) releases as a finished product rather than being dragged out forever?
I agree, I probably would've been able to like more of FGO's characters/story if it had that format.

>>21012044
I legit can't think of anything. even the "good" chapters are so shit.

all the original characters have the personality of wet blankets, and the pre-existing characters are either raped or ignored.

the fate series is kind of werid and hard to get into... i've only watched fate zero...

Jeez... What kind of big sister forces her younger sibling a fucking loan at that age?

>>21015425
Tohsaka is comically awful in HA, the whole game had a massive sakura boner and that’s a good thing

So if I want to get UBW's good end should I just restart on the 3rd day to do everything necessary to get it or is there a better point to start, since you only have to do 4 things to get the good ending?

When's the HF BD part 2 going to come out? Like around may?

>>21015569
Actually this is a dumb question, I'm just gonna start on the third day, that way I'll see everything I've missed on my first read.

>Liked most of the Fate works and general lore of the Nasuverse
>Finally get the time to play Tsukihime
>Only on day 7 of Arcuieds route and get an overwhelming sense of nostalgia
It feels like I'm coming home after a decade

>>21015643
Nasu's old stuff just has that special feel, right anon?

>>20997452
why america gets all this while literally nobody can watch it aside from shitty camrip and bluray/dvd release

>>21015657
Refresh my memory, what's this from?

>>21015691
Mahoyo. Old Nasu stuff that got made into new great stuff but was left unfinished because of Fate.

>>21015610
>around may
I don't think so. Probably it will be released in August or September

>>21015703
I think he's right that May sounds more likely, the usual cycle is about 6 months from the JP release.
No way it'd take nearly a year.

>>21015691
Come on anon, there is no excuse to not know Aoko and what she is in.

>>21015657
It does, it's a very comfy feel.
On a side note I did get some of my friends into Fate but couldnt gwt them into the VNs. At the end of HF part 2 though one caved and downloaded Realta Nua, Tsukihime and Hollow Ataraxia. While I cant say for sure they'll get to reading them immediately (especially since hes going through extra atm), the fact they opened up to the idea of reading them is a victory on my book

>>21015698
How much has been translated so far?

>>21015799
7 chapters in english, all of it in french.

>>21015847
I knew I should've taken French in school

Melty Blood HD soon bros

I can feel it

>>21014273
my view on fate is that outside of stay night, zero, and HA its pretty much a pick and choose franchise since continuity outside of those three is basically just some shared characters.

>>21016673
Zero is a bit odd because despite being a direct prequel to the characters and themes it kind of goes for a standalone approach (especially the anime), hyping the 7-way battle-royale and making newcomers think it could go in any direction. It's actually interesting to compare the perspectives of an inside and outside view when watching it. HA though is entirely based on peoples' predilection for the VN (and also about hikkikomoris)

did anyone else's audience LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO every time Illya was on screen?

>>21017015
For what reason?

>>21017028
The reason being Illya was on screen. LOLOLOLOLOLOLO at every appearance. Even if she was like ducking from a massive battle to avoid getting decapitated. LLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

>>21017103
The way you put it is kind of hilarious, but I genuinely don't get it. Why is Illya a funny character? Where was your screening?

>>21017015
>>21017103
>LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
Don't laugh at Illya. She's a good girl.

>>21017148
New England. Pretty full theater. Also finger suck got olololols. And "hi I am home"..."btw this is my new arm...by the way rin is here..btw this is illya" got lololololoLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOS (but at least that scene was legit hilarious). I am serious when I say every Illya scene had half the theater BABABWBWBWBABABABABABAing

>>21017185
>Also finger suck got olololols. And "hi I am home"..."btw this is my new arm...by the way rin is here..btw this is illya" got lololololoLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOS

>>21017198
>Anytime Shinji got btfo got roaring laughter
Some even clapped

>>21017455
This is why I never go to movie theaters.

>>21017455
Sustained loud clapping when she had enough of Shinji's bullshit during the rape scene.

>playing Battle Moon Wars
>Boss mission, two enemies left
>Boss lands a 2% hit, taking Shiki from full health to zero
>Instant fail
I fucking hate SRW/Fire Emblem style combat

>>21017547
Its one of the few times I didnt mind the audience getting noisy

Is FSN an eroge or a story first?

Playing the Akiha route in Tsukihime right now, Akiha thinking Shiki is gay for Arikiho is pretty hilarious.

>>21017852
Yes

>>21017852
An eroge with focus on porn is a nukige.
If it isn't a nukige, it is plot focused.

>>21017862
The Tsukihime eroge scenes are actually pretty damn good but I feel Like Nasu went full meme with the FSN ones.

>>21013340
The general level of refinement in the art and sprites, on top of the engine modding with the UI is very good.
The alterations from the original are also improvements, the question is the writing and the general taste in characters of the writer.
This is rather mixed, but hey, considering this is a doujin there may be changes to existing characters which may actually improve them.
In general, I'm waiting for the next demo and am keeping an open mind.

So I'm curious, is the Shiki you play as in Tsukihime the adopted child or the actual child? At first I was sure he was the adopted one but it becomes unclear as I keep playing.

>>21017987
Keep playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCwH_0pDP_Q&feature=youtu.be

>>20996919
My favorite Type-Moon character is 'Not Sabre The Sabre Expy: The Expy'

>>21015662
What do you mean? Europe already had that movie for several days in February.

>>20999143
Fox is associated with magic > Medea
Bear is associated with strength > Heracles
Lion is Saber (Fate route), Dog is Cu (legend)

>>21018974
Not him but it was only in a couple of countries in Europe. I'd have to travel by plane if I wanted to watch the movie here.

>>21001700
F/SF 5 comes out next month. In case that one finishes the story I want them to animate F/SF. It's literally the best story thus far and especially Zerofags would love it.

>>21019018
>In case that one finishes the story
That's hilarious anon, you don't actually believe that, right? Have you been following it at all? We're so fucking far from the ending, FSF could easily reach 10 volumes.

>>21019027
I know but Narita can pull fucking anything. Based on the description though we'll get shitton more Alcides action.

>>21019033
If there's one thing he doesn't do, is cut a story off early. If anything, he'll let it drag on way too long.

>>21014273
I'll never understand people like you.
What could possibly be hard about getting into Wikipedia, looking at what got released first, and hit that up?
Unless you mean getting the thing in itself which is another matter altogether and even so if you're on /jp/ you should perfectly know how to do it and where to look for.

>>21018919
That's close to my personal favorite, 'Not Sabre The Sabre Expy: The Expy Alter'

>>21018725
Terrible. Take a lap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezJeMzqz0Ls

Nanako's birthday!

Anyone going to play Extella Link? Honestly I can't even be bothered.

>>21020412
I'll pirate it to try it out but I'm not too interested

>>21020412
I'll pirate when it's up and check if my laptop toaster can run it. Not buying that shit full price though.
I heard the gameplay is supposedly improved, so at least that part should be more bearable than the first.

>>21020425
already uploaded, apparently

>>21017895
I agree about Tsukihime. I didn't like them all, far from that, but the rape ones were great and made sense with the story and Shiki. It was a good point sometimes.

>>21020412
Amazon delivered it three days early so I already played through the entire thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUZuM4ocYuc&list=PLdWuc_xyC-UWNs40hGIDJMs0SrFgmJH6g&index=58&t=0s

Extella Link seems to run fine on my shittty laptop. Anyone who wants to try it might as well pick it up, since there's a torrent already.
Gotta say, I was hoping Hakuno talked more during story scenes now that they have a voice.

>>21021114
I'm pretty sure chapter 1 of extella is longer than all of links story if you cut out the gameplay sections.

>>21021170
Damn, that's fucked up.
Though to be fair, Nasu explained from the moment this was announced that it would not be a big story focused game.
Maybe I'll finish it tonight.

>>21021036
good content as always

>>21021414

I need more Illya.
What comes after reading FSN and Prillya?

>>21021990
Hollow Ataraxia

>Just finished Arcueids route for the first time
>Already got me really sad
>4 more routes to go
Im not gonna make it am I?

>>21022020
tfw I didn't give a shit about Arcueid or Curl

>>21022049
No one cares about currybutt.

>>21022049
>>21022169
ciel is nice tho

>>21022020
You really aren't if Arcueid's ending affected you badly, the others will make you straight up depressed. I ended up drinking after Akiha's and Hisui's ending to cope.

>>21022020
>getting sad at near side routes
aight bro you need to stop here

>>21022020
I was intending to spend a steady stream of time on Stay Night and finish it in a month, but Fate True End really struck me and I've gotta give it time to sink in. Another anon posted something to the same effect recently.

As a corollary, the ED to the old anime captures these feelings perfectly.

>>21022809
Both the regular ED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbP93ZtiowE
And the song in the final episode (Fate route spoilers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiOHxtgqgnM

Really captured the strong emotional points of the Fate route.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtmdnB95Uxc
I get emotional every time I watch/hear this song

>>21022809
I miss old Nasu, his endings were brilliant with all the bittersweet and sad notes. The last thing that came close to that high that I've read was that "To be continued in Fate/Extra" ending in CCC.

>>21022842
Altera's ending in Extella was wonderfully bittersweet.
Golden Poem arc doesn't exist.

>>21022867
I couldn't bring myself to read anymore of Extella after finishing Tamamo's route and uninstalled it deleting all my saves. Reading Tamamo's route gave me headaches to the point I couldn't bring myself to look at the game icon without feeling disgust.

>>21022892
I don't blame you. Nasu reuses the humanize the inhuman theme and coming off Nero and Tamamo's stories probably make it seem better than it is, but the ending did get me to cry.

>>21022793
I bet
I think I'll take breaks between routes to let it sink in
I dont know why stuff like this usually doesnt get to me
>>21022809
This isnt the first Nasu work I gotten into its it feels wierd to me. I havent felt this way since the Fate True End either. Guess its just the mix of nostalgia and sadness making this feel stronger
>>21022831
For me its this song
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I4poryDakX0

I'm playing the first route in FSN and shirou just got beat the shit out of by assassin, slashed through his collar bone with a knife, and got round house kicked down from a three story building.
Yet he is somehow still able to run up some stairs and fight shinji??

>>21023003
rider*

>>21023003
You know that mentally retarded kid in middle school that somehow had crazy strength and endurance? That's Shirou.

>>21023003
Get the bad end.

I want to stop being a fateonly shitter.
Obviously the answer is both, but which one should I read first, Kara no Kyoukai or Tsukihime?
I'm honestly torn, any girl that wears western boots with a kimono is obviously best girl, so I'd like to know more about Shiki, and on the other hand I'm quite curious about this Primate Murder fellow.

>>21023411
You can read KnK between Tsuki and Kagetsu Tohya to change things up since VNs are pretty long, but it really doesn't matter.
>Primate Murder
IIRC this is only in KT and there's very little information even there.

>>21023411
read tsukihime thats the only thing thats translated fully, unless you know french

>>21023472
>>21023411
my bad im an idiot thats a totally different game, also kara no kyoukai is the sequel dont read that

>>21023454
>>21023489
So, Tsukihime first, regardless?

>>21023489
>kara no kyoukai is the sequel dont read that
Go to sleep anon, you are talking nonsense.

>>21023497
yes, tsukihime is the first, kara no kyoukai is the fan disk when you get done with tsukhime. You could play melty blood the spin off fighting game when your done with both games if you want. People think the psp game is the best melty blood game but i dont care that much i bought actress on steam. Have fun though its very easy to screw up a route so make sure to save when ever its best. But you only have 20 save spots becareful

>>21023512
>kara no kyoukai is the fan disk
>absolute state of /tmg/

>>21023526
fuck i got them confused.

>>21023510
ok look kara no kyoukai is a seperate damn thing im an idiot, i got it confused with kagetsu toyha

Man Link sucks ass

>>21023697
I think it's better than the first so far. The characters and story sure are pretty bland, but at least they're not stomach-churning bad.
Probably the best thing about this game was not putting the absolute worst FGO characters in.

>>21023697
I've already finished 2 out of 3 routes, it feels really short. Also it feels like interactions with Servants got cut drastically. Good thing I didn't pay for it.

At least it plays better but that's not saying much for a musou ripoff.

>>21022831
I really love this opening. It perfectly captures the route. Why couldn't the HF movies be like it? They didn't feel like HF at all.

What's up with the Top Servant shit in Link? In Extella it was ambiguous, but apparently there's one of each class? Does this mean SERAPH doesn't record Grands?

>>21023870
I completely disagree, HF2 captured that mood perfectly.

>>21023747
I agree about the interactions overall but it still feels really, I don't know, pandering? But the pandering feels almost condescending. Maybe it's in my head.

>>21023697
You really think so? The musou side of it is pretty fun this time, running around smashing people as Gawain is pretty satisfying. I kinda expected the plot to be cut down, although maybe not this much.
I've in the middle of Kagetsu Tohya as well, the older stuff clearly has more effort put into it but that doesn't mean Link is bad.

>>21024412
The issue is that they have a bunch of super overpowered servants who are just kinda there to be there. There's none of that sense of "Wow this servant is a massive threat" that you get in FSN, Extra, etc. FGO has the same issue.

>>21024637
I agree the gameplay is far better this time, even if it's still a musou. The story is what it is but at least the banters between the servants is good.
Its main issue is its price. If it was 20$ cheaper, it would be a good game

>>21023875
There shouldn't be a top for each class since Jeanne was a Top Servant. If you take Hakuno literally Top Servants are just the seven servants considered the best at the time.

>>21025046
Seriously, they just completely changed the definition between games? Jeanne was called one in Extella, yet now it's only for the 7 classes.
Gil was also explicitly one, but now Arjuna is supposed to be Top Archer.
This dumb power level stuff is so pointless, and only makes the lore more convoluted.

>>21024647
I think the lack of threat just comes from how fast the plot moves. They throw a bunch of Servants that have already been established as strong Karl's way but they get smashed through so fast there's no time for build up.

>>21025100
all the servant lore is raped to shit anyway nowadays. not that it ever had a very solid foundation. they honestly fucked themselves in the ass by FGO using servants as the only playable units.

>>21025132
I think what he meant was more about how disposable Servants are nowadays. In FGO, you know that anyone who "dies" will be summonable again, and they'll show up again in a million events and other future games. You also know your self-insert MC will keep on trudging along with barely any changes to their character. Extella and Link chose to adapt this same shitty style of storytelling, probably to appeal to the same audience.
All of this makes it super hard to create stakes in the story, or to feel like there is any sort of serious threat, both of which were totally a part of Fate up until FGO. Modern Fate is more about shoving all the characters they can into a game, rather than creating interesting, self-contained stories with well realized character arcs, which is why I'm not very optimistic about the future of the franchise.

>>21025170
I still hope Requiem manage to mix both. On one side, it's full of servant and everyone is immortal, on the other, the heroin isn't and people can still be killed.

>>21025227
In general the spin-offs like FSF and case files do manage to pull of more satisfying stories/characters because they are more self-contained, so hopefully Requiem is the same.
It's FGO and Extella that are fully on the pandering boat.

>>21025170
I like how the main character is in posession of the regalia for all of LINK and does jack shit with it. at the very end he even drops a line about how it can't even be used to bring back charlemagne the only reason the mooncell created that fucking ring was to deal with threats like velber and it seems to be fucking useless.

>>21025332
It's time to admit the Moon Cell wouldn't be able to grill a toast if it wanted

>>21025357
and yet it keeps getting wanked the fuck out of.

>>21023411
Read KnK: it's the first thing Nasu and Takeuchi did together and it's a straightforward series of a couple of books.

Watch the movies whenever you feel like it.

>>21023747
>was not putting the absolute worst FGO characters in.
But Scat is in it.

>>21024412
What do you mean by pandering?

Is there a name for those "badly" drawn images, for example, rin with some chalk looking thing in her mouth?

>>21026950
And thankfully all she does it talk shit and get hit.

>>21028325
Which is the one good thing about her, chronic jobbing.
Though that goes for Lancer's in general.

>>21028340
But what if a Lancer beats a Lancer?

>>21028369
One jobbed more than the other.

>>21028325
>>21026950
What's up with the Scathach hate? I mever understood it

>>21025608
Best girl

>>21028554
It is something that has developed over a few years.
Originally I was indifferent or was even lukewarm to her.
But that view has shifted over time.

Firstly her descriptions, especially when materials were released showed her to be so far wanked over her myth that it made even Reddit question her legitimacy as a character in such a state.
She took stuff from mostly Fionn, and then they gave her this Norse connection, which was blown so far out of proportion and has culminated in Skadi.
There is also the idea of Koyama giving an unfair bias of her compared to her peers, even in gameplay, which with Skadi seems once again legit (it could be Sakurai actually, but the point is the same).

For me though, it has been some really poor interactions with those who like her, mostly those who are new or ignorant.
Believe it or not, back then my views on GO were alright, I even visited /alter/ for some time, but I thank that general for cementing my current views through some really shitty things happening.

And then there is the main point, misappropriation.
Scat is compared officially to Misaya and Rin, and the main point is those comparing her to Aoko.
They do this for surface reasons which is pure headcanon and is in no way actually elaborated on officially.
One, or possibly two or more but mainly one person used this line of thought to push their shitposting agenda.
And that is where I draw the line, trying to rape the identity of others through peddling complete bullshit purely to get replies, and all the other distasteful aspects of the character within and in the context of fans, is why I see her as the worst TM character by far.

I'm only saying things off the top of my head, but there is plenty of stuff out there, she is a representation of the issues TM and it's fanbase has now, which has become this way because of GO.

All I want is to ignore and forget such things, there are not worth my time, which is why now I'm only focused on very specific parts of TM, since the whole now disgusts me.

>>21028589
I guess I just havent to much of the Scathach fags to begin to hate her
I will admit comparing her to Aoko doesnt make much sense unless they mean visually because they do LOOK similar but thats about it off the top of my head

>>21028607
>havent to much
Sorry I had a stroke
I meant "havent talked to many"

>>21028554
Its the same old song and dance every time she shows up. Either all the characters go on about how strong she is and how her shit doesn't stink, then she dies. Or she shows up with Cu, sapping the majority of his personality, begging him to kill her, of just treating him like shit.

She keeps showing up since the tits and tights are popular, but she never breaks out of her mold. Overexposure without enough exploration.

>>21028607
>>21028616
I did make an ass of myself back then, but self reflection is a really nice thing.
I've learn't to deal with it and other similar things.
It is as simple as keeping away from things that annoy you.
Sure you know these places do exist and have such things happen them because you were there, but it isn't worth the fight.
Because you cannot win that fight, so you accept that and move on, you cannot change those who are into something for completely different reasons at different periods of time, who have different taste.

Just like what you like and accept that people are going to be different in what they like.

what will most likely happen first, nasu offing himself or we get tsukihime remake.

>>21028816
Me getting a life.

>>21028554
she forces me to type female:scat on exhentai instead of just scat

>>21023697
Wasn't Extella co-written by Nasu? I've never played it myself but I do hear Extella is hot trash though which is surprising.

>>21029242
Now this is a cause I can get behind.

>>21029250
>post-2012 TM
>surprising that it is trash

>>21029259
But we got Emiya-gohan, anime adaptions of F/SN, fate/zero and fate/strange fake

>TM calendar 2011
All those dead things.
Now it's 99% FGO.

>>21029275
Don't care, besides Zero ended in 2012.

>>21029277
Hey, there's a single month in the 2019 calendar with a Tsukihime Remake pic.
Hopefully that's the month we get news.

>>21029277
This is TM calendar 2019, anon

>>21029546
November is gonna be our month for sure, boys!
Announcing Tsuki R release in December 2020

>>21029546
>multiple character repeats
Why?

How could Aylesbury Valesti ritual still be a thing in Extraverse if Crimson Moon didn't exist ? Thanks for answering