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This is a Japanese language learning thread for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, light novels, bangers, and Japanese video games.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the guide before asking stupid questions.
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide for those afraid of change:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

前スレ: >>20982093

>> No.20989071

Thank god I thought djt would be gone forever.

>> No.20989075

wow this op is fuckin horrendous great job

>> No.20989080

>> No.20989084
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god i wish calvin posted here

>> No.20989089

i should have added chinese to the op so that we could accommodate him

>> No.20989091
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i want the living calvin to post here not this reanimated not even human creature called xiaovin

hes like the girl from fullmetal alchemist who got synthesized with her dog right now lmao

>> No.20989095

>>20989058
>I did not read this post either.
That's okay. Hopefully someone else is able to benefit from the wisdom I shared and successfully release their inner aggression. May you find peace.

>> No.20989098

>>20989095
and a hearty namaste to u good sir lol

>> No.20989099

>>20989091
whats the dog in this metaphor
synthesis would mean he gained somethin but all i see is loss

>> No.20989100

meditate

>> No.20989102

>>20989068
神様よ、それは最低なことですね
ちなみに、瞑想はゲイ

>> No.20989103

>>20989099
idk i think i tried to go 2 ways with it its more like he was brought back 2 life w. forbidden alchemy jutsus without a phil stone lol

>> No.20989122

>質問のある方はどうぞ。
>質問のある方

w-what? I'd understand it if it was like "people who have questions"
>質問がある方

>> No.20989132

>>20989122
wait whats ur problem now ? lol

>> No.20989134

>>20989132
I don;t understand this construction:
>質問のある方

please disect it so I understand

>> No.20989135

>>20989122
I think it means the same but anyone correct me if I'm wrong

>> No.20989138

>>20989122
方(かた) is a polite way of saying 人
It's different from the ほう reading

>> No.20989140

You got the Anki logo in there -- okay you really put in the hours in mspaint.

>> No.20989147

>>20989138
yes, I understood that it was refering to people, I just don't know what's going on before it

>> No.20989148

>>20989122
let me let you in on a little secret: が and の used to mean essentially the same thing. in many contexts, they still do

>> No.20989155

>>20989134
>>20989148
oh i see another particle fag

the の means theres prolly questions whereas が points more at questions like its an irregularity at this moment

>> No.20989157

>>20989140
u cant see shit but i overlaid the pipe shading on the anki logo to really make it feel real

>> No.20989173
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20989173

Wow just watched steins gate 0 and i am surprised how easy it is. like it is absolutely sol tier. I was worried it would be youjo senki tier and have been putting it off.

Also it has been years since watching steins gate and I forgot how much of a retard daru sounds like. honestly okabe and maho are the only characters that do not sound unnatural.

>> No.20989175

>>20989122
"people with questions are welcome"
"you can ask question"

>> No.20989180

watching stans gate is retarded tutturu lol

>> No.20989193

as you got more and more fluent were you underwhelmed by seiyu or did you appreciate them even more than western voice actors?

>> No.20989201

>>20989175
i think its better to phrase the second as "retards welcome"

>> No.20989204

>>20989155
there's no real grammatical distinction between using が or の in a relative clause like that. it just makes the sentence flow better because you might have a が afterwards to mark the whole clause as the subject (shit 例: 質問のある方がいない)

>> No.20989207

>>20989193
u want to fuck their voice or u dont
knowin nihongo dont change that

>> No.20989208

>>20989193
idk billy bob thornton was pretty good in princess mononoke LOL

>> No.20989209

>>20989193
As my japanese has improved I appreciate more natural sounding voice actors and hate when they have extreme voices like daru. I have never watched american voice acting so I have no reference.

>> No.20989213

>>20989193
i reached enlightenment like matt and realized all anime is fake and gay and that i should only watch rick & morty black mirror and joe rogan like he does

>> No.20989216

>>20989204
there totally is its literally the same as why u say 目が instead of 目の when u get skeet in ur eye

some1 post the image about the guy who used the wrong particle nad the waiter killed his self or w/e

>> No.20989217

i'm starting my japanese journey right now. so what should i do first?

>> No.20989221

>>20989209
what does understandin what theyre sayin have to do with recognizin that its over the top annoying shit

>> No.20989223
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>>20989216

>> No.20989227

>>20989217
eat yotsubato, it is super easy.
if it is too hard just give up as you won't make it.

>> No.20989228

>>20989217
meditate

>> No.20989229

>>20989223
way to fuckin be a buzzkill bro

but seriously

>> No.20989230
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>>20989217

>> No.20989238

>>20989223
wait i just recognized that dude lol thats him the fabeled "japanese specialist" san lol

>> No.20989239

>and dont post about it
this image is unironically jamal's best contribution to these threads.

>> No.20989240

>>20989230
so if i follow these steps exactly, in 4 years, i will be fluent?

can i just watch some jap show for an hour everyday without subs?

>> No.20989244

>>20989217
Unironically

Learn hiragana and katakana, buy a textbook (or use Take Kim), and download Anki

Optional: get RTK

>> No.20989249

>>20989240
>an hour
No.
Watch at least 6 hours of subbed anime everyday.

>> No.20989250

>>20989244
>buy a textbook
lmao, imagine spending money on learning basic Japanese

>> No.20989251

>>20989221
Well accents and wierd speeking patterns are only in opposition to the natural. If an alien came to earth and heard me speak, what would hint them off as me speaking perfect english vs some indian dude? If you have not heard more natural japanese as apposed to forced accents than you could not know what the extent of natural is. You might be able to tell extreme cases but edge cases will sound just as natural as perfect natural.

>> No.20989252

>>20989239
i didnt make that image thats some other guy but if u wanna say im associated by extension since hes one of my crewmen then i guess ill deal w. it

>> No.20989257

>>20989217
there's a guide in the OP

>> No.20989259

>>20989240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTsduRreug

>> No.20989267

>>20989251
ur example was daru thats not an edge case

>> No.20989280

>>20989259
i still lol when he talks about sex for a second

>> No.20989285

>十字架
Wow, so this is the power of japanese intelligence

>> No.20989290

>>20989285
whats ur issue and what r u readin

>> No.20989291

is 審査員 pronounced shinsa-in or shin-sain? (does the "in" from the 員 get added to the sa?)

>> No.20989294

>>20989244
what do i need anki for?

>>20989249
seriously?

>> No.20989299

>>20989294
Yes.

>> No.20989300

>>20989290
As it is my goal to read the word of our Lord in as many languages as possible, I have started my journey on the Bible in Japanese. As such, the first word I needed to learn was 十字架. Wish me luck on my journey and God bless.

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>>20989285
Why should nips care about the white pigs' imaginary friend?

Just be thankful they aren't rightfully murdering you like the Chinese.

>> No.20989306

>>20989300
why cant we have a simple conversation about anime and eroge

>> No.20989308

>>20989294
>what do i need anki for?
Anki is a flashcard program that uses spaced repitition. Many self-taught language learners use it because its system is particularly effective

>> No.20989309

>>20989299
you're lying. i can't watch that much anime in a day. and uh, why subs?

>> No.20989317

>>20989309
bit of friendly advice: this is the last place you want to look for guiding advice. follow the guide (or don't) and look for other places to ask these questions. glhf

>> No.20989320

>>20989309
Not that person, but anime will only really help you after you have a basic understanding of Japanese vocab and grammar. The subs should be in Japanese instead of English if that makes more sense

>> No.20989326

>>20989294
Read the guide before asking dumb questions

>> No.20989330

>>20989320
>The subs should be in Japanese instead of English if that makes more sense
to eng subs or not to eng subs is ur own call but jp subs just makes anime a bad replacement for voiced eroge

>> No.20989332

>>20989317
>>20989320
>>20989326
how many hours a day should i spend on learning japanese though?

>> No.20989338

>>20989332
as many as ur compelled to do son whats ur fuckin issue
ur not gonna make it if u need a scheduled minimum

>> No.20989342

>>20989332
That really depends on how quickly you want to learn, and how long you can go per day without feeling burnt out. I'd personally say at least 3

>> No.20989344

>>20989332
this is such a stupid question. as if knowing how much you "should" study will have any impact on how much you actually do study lol

>> No.20989348

>>20989332
ideally 12 hours

>> No.20989351

i did 100 new word cards yesterday and it was super easy because i used LEHG method
took some getting used to but i’m fuckin excited. 500 words a week is possible while still reading a few hours a day because LEHG is the future

>> No.20989353

What was the proxy 5ch site called again? The one that lets gaijins access the site.

>> No.20989355

i just dont get what かかる does in any sentence and cant be fucked to look it up

>> No.20989357

>>20989344
are you weaboo faggots always this triggered?

>> No.20989360

>>20989357
why are you even here

>> No.20989365

>>20989351
Yeah but anki is useless so even if it only took like 5 mins you still wasted your time.

>> No.20989369

share your deck

>> No.20989371
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQSxNTgNObE

>> No.20989373

>>20989351
whats that share with the class

>> No.20989374

>>20989357
you're using weaboo as an insult despite wanting to learn japanese yourself? nice 1

>> No.20989375

>>20989250
lmaoing@your life for being a poorfag who has to eat Mama ramen 6 days a week.

>> No.20989381

>>20989371
most annoying voice in the japanese learning community

>> No.20989386

>>20989373
Lehg II is a 31-foot-2-inch ketch that was sailed around the world in 1942 by Argentinian Vito Dumas. Dumas sailed easterly from Buenos Aires, around the world past the three great capes in a voyage lasting 272 days, making seven ports of call.

>> No.20989392

>>20989360
>>20989374
lol, why are you people so serious?

>> No.20989394

>>20989386
and ur a dumass

>> No.20989395

>>20989392
your read on this thread is the opposite of reality dude

>> No.20989400

>>20989375
I'd rather be poor materially than mentally

>> No.20989401

>>20989392
were not the ones posting about "our japanese journey" lmfao

>> No.20989404

>>20989394
>>20989395
do you post like retards on purpose? i'm genuinely asking

>> No.20989406

>>20989404
yes

>> No.20989408

>>20989404
はい

>> No.20989411

>>20989332
25 at least if you ever want to get fluent

>> No.20989416

we dont post like retards

we are retards

>> No.20989418

thread is dangerously low quality rn

>> No.20989422

>>20989404
it conveys a tone

>> No.20989425

no

>> No.20989430

>>20989418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4stTX7rmAFY

>> No.20989432
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20989432

I always imagine the people who unironically use the words weeb/meme/normie as the guy who always wears a baseball hat, smells strongly of b.o.(or even worse cigarettes), uses Instagram, and finds white girls attractive. But that is just me.

>> No.20989434

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50HqY33h27c

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>>20989400
>materially

>>20989401
subscribe

>>20989408
give me a sec. i know this word. uhhhh. HAI. that means yes

>>20989422
like the kind of tone chinese use when they don't give a fuck ?

>> No.20989438

>>20989432
nobody that kakkoii posts here lol

>> No.20989443

>>20989436
you come to this thread after your nihongo studies to shitpost with the bois, whats so hard to understand

>> No.20989446
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>> No.20989448

We are thinking on the basest of planes. What we need are more _____.

>> No.20989457

>>20989365
no it’s not, it’s already paying off~ i’ve already insta-recognized around 60 of my repped words in new contexts since i’ve started. and i’ve done 11 hours of reading on top of my reps

can you get 6 new words per hour of reading to actually stick with just yomichan?

LEHG SRS > spamming yomichan

>> No.20989458

>>20989446
forgot how good this guide is

>> No.20989459

>>20989446
hell yeah bitch the amphetaNEET era returns

>> No.20989460

how hard are generic comedy harems compared to generic slice of life anime in terms of vocab?

>> No.20989463

>>20989434
i like that i could understand most of this one

>> No.20989465

>>20989374
people here lack self awareness and project their insecurities a lot lol

>> No.20989466

neither of them are hard if you use english subs

>> No.20989468

>>20989460
stfu retard

>> No.20989472

>>20989432
>wears a baseball hat
no.

>smells strongly
i smell good

>instagram
i only use discord

>finds white girls attractive
what is this meme? of course they are.

>>20989443
im bored give me a sec

>> No.20989478

>>20989466
i've already seen hundreds with eng subs
>>20989468
i will not and you cant make me

>> No.20989480

>>20989457
wtf is LEHG hurry up and tell us so we can laugh at you

>> No.20989486

>>20989472
everyone thinks their stink smells good

why do u think i enjoy postin gso much

>> No.20989500

>>20989480
woah there put your pants back on don’t start jacking off yet monkeyboy

>> No.20989507

>>20989486
i told people at work to smell me and they like it. this was after they tell me my friend smells like shit, and i agreed.

>> No.20989513

>>20989507
imagine you're trying to work and some dudebro asks you how he smells, is there even any sensible answer?

>> No.20989521

dude sniff my pits bro hahaha

>> No.20989524

>>20989480
its made up bait retard

>> No.20989534

>>20989513
lol that's not how it actually played out.

>> No.20989536

>>20989472
i mean that is just how i imagine your kind. using discord is pretty bad, but liking white girls is kind of pathetic. What is it you find attractive? their gross died blonde hair, their fatness, their overdone makeup, the fact they always look old(even girls in their 20s)?

>> No.20989542

racial discrimination is not allowed in this thread

>> No.20989544

>>20989521
*literally walks up 2 u and shits in pants*

get a whiff o this bro

>> No.20989549

>>20989507
>i told people at work to smell me
感じ悪い

>> No.20989556

>>20989536
I'm a white girl and I don't even like myself. He's definetely ... abnormal.

>> No.20989557

i went for a run and come back to this thread in quite a state. harumph.

>> No.20989559

>>20989542
actually i dont really care u just cant say the n word or u get slimed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuNW6NaZsLw#t=1142

>> No.20989566

>>20989557
yeah its like this every time you take your eyes off the thread for 5 minutes and the toddler is actively trying to slam its head into the corner of a table

>> No.20989568

>>20989524
it’s not haha it’s real and i can tell you’re interested

>> No.20989578

>try watching anime with jap subs
>it's too hard and I give up
>try it again after watching 2 easier ones
>sentences I struggled with are now easy
wow i guess i am capable of making progress

>> No.20989581

気にしてるね

>> No.20989585

u cant draw out bait for 3 posts without dropping the meat thats against the rules

>> No.20989587

>>20989536
normie is a useful term, because it is a real term used to describe casuals and brainlets who follow the masses. i like to say weeb and weaboo ironically, but it still has a little power. meme is just meme.

i use discord because it is the best way to talk to people, send images, and make groups. i understand the "gaming groups" and "reddit" shit is what you find cancer, but i don't care about that.

and lastly, white girls are usually the most attractive. that goes with white guys in general too. asian women are not attractive. black women are not attractive. the majority of spanish, indian, etc, women are not attractive. your delicious brown women are only attractive in fiction, and same with asian women. did the BBC meme get to you people or what?

>> No.20989588

uh can i get this bait in the vegan alternative plz

>> No.20989589

nihongo with the hard "go"

>> No.20989596

>>20989556
don't be so down on yourself, many nips would love to have an "exotic" white girl. Just stop dying your hair and having sex with dogs.

>> No.20989597

わたしはhard”ゲイ”

>> No.20989602

remember when ariana grande got the tattoo
that was a fun time

>> No.20989603

what does わけなど mean

>> No.20989614

>>20989589
Nihongo to the polls

>> No.20989619

nihongo fuck urself minna : )

>> No.20989623

>>20989603
wakenado

>> No.20989632

>>20989623
like sharknado?

>> No.20989635

relax, my little 馬鹿s, i will discuss LEHG in detail once i’ve finished my luxurious meal of fresh fruit and 野菜

>> No.20989644

>>20989635
id believe u if u said 果物

>> No.20989645

>>20989635
u take horrendous shits that split ur asshole open bleeding because ur diet and general lifestyle is trash u aint foolin anyone

>> No.20989650

Why the fuck does「運動場」appear twice in core 2k/6k?

>> No.20989678

this threads shit *brap* ahhhhh

>> No.20989685

if toloveru is so bad, why do I keep watching it?
Why am I enjoying it?

Surely, it has to be because of the Japanese... please tell me it's the Japanese

>> No.20989686

>>20989650
would you like the chinesechars appearing for core 8k or even 16k? chinese are for small ks. please think of the children

>> No.20989696

>>20989685
ur actually just a retard but its not that bad like i reflect on it pretty fondly even tho its trash

>> No.20989700

Is there a way to get yomichan to automatically input whether a word is a noun, adj, verb, etc? It's a real pain to manually type [Na-adjective, Noun] etc for every new word I add.

>> No.20989703

>>20989685
Probably because it's easy to understand and pleases your dick. That's all it needs, right?

>> No.20989705

what do people think of ryan boundless old japan videos?

>> No.20989706

>>20989700
>It's a real pain to manually type [Na-adjective, Noun] etc for every new word I add.
then don't do it

>> No.20989708

>>20989080
What does it even mean?

>> No.20989710

>>20989705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BChqJlH_l6k

>> No.20989711

>>20989700
what are u doing just fuckin read more

>> No.20989712

>>20989706
Answer my question or fuck off, thanks.

>> No.20989720

>>20989708
おつ
short for おつかれさま

>> No.20989722

ok bros after studying japanese for like 1 hour i realised this is not my shit
what i really want to learn is traditional taiwanese
see ya dgeit

>> No.20989726

>>20989710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLKaxuPDuAs

>> No.20989733

>>20989712
there is now way, now go waste your time on more useless shit

>> No.20989736

>>20989720
Fuck me. Finally I know what it means. I've seen jiggers use it all the time but googling it in Japanese vocabs and such gave nothing of relevance.

>> No.20989738

>>20989726
some1 should link this to matt so he better understands how owned he got by jorges wife lol

>> No.20989744

>>20989722
>not learning Southeastern classical Tibetan

>> No.20989745

速戦即決

>> No.20989750

>>20989722
c'mon man it ain't too hard to learn nippongo
fuck's sake all you gotta do is:
meditate for 3 hours every day
watch eng subbed anime 14 hours every day
study for like 10 minutes every day
sleep if you need to, but you're already meditating so it's just waste of time, just watch more eng subbed anime

nihongo meijin in less than a complete jinsei

>> No.20989752

>>20989726
t. two ugly angry autists talking about how hard their dancing monkey life is.

>> No.20989754

just write english sentences in kana and then read them.
boom, you're speaking japanese

>> No.20989758

>誠心誠意臨機応変に切磋琢磨する部活動だ

dude what the fuck

>> No.20989760

>>20989726
>no rating
>no comments
what kind of pussy channel is that

also his guest sounds like a virgin

>> No.20989762

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQSxNTgNObE

Of course. Of fucking course. Every single fucking time. You know at least Steve Kaufmann has a product he tries to offer but this crop of "language gurus" have fucking nothing.

>> No.20989766

>>20989752
>>20989760
instead of projecting, you should really think about what he said. i think he is right

>> No.20989767

>>20989762
was already posted

>> No.20989769

>>20989726
I like how you can literally hear how fucking fat that guy is.

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>>20989726
>high pitched nasal voice literally seething as it tries to explain how Japanese women refuse to open up to him because they are all fake and hate gaijin and totally not for any other reason at all

>> No.20989778

>tfw gettin better

>> No.20989779

>>20989776
explain tkyosam

>> No.20989784

>>20989752
>>20989760
>>20989766
>>20989776
that stuff is still mostly real tho its just ur hearing from 2 ppl who are both shits no matter where they go most likely

the best thing u can do is never put urself in situations where someone can ruin ur shit by spreading bad gossip

it helps if u become a pillar of community urself because if u have ppl that will stand behind u for good things uve done its a lot fuckin harder for a shitty sour sad ass to cause u trouble

as far as relationships idk im not much of a dater i usually just pick one and club them over the head and sling em over my shoulder and take them back to my cave

its worked out well only had a few partners : )

>> No.20989789

>>20989766
here is what i learned.

1. second guy sounds like a parody of himself

2. main guy did not try to learn japanese until moving there

3. main guy still is a dancing monkey after many years

4. the main guys money story would absolutely happen in america making me think this guy is just autistic (also rofl at going to a japanese school)

yeah my point is still the same, y'all just unhealthily attached to america and have a pinch of autism.

>> No.20989797

ryan boundless alive in kenya

>> No.20989801

>>20989789
i forgot to lol at how a dude could ask a girl for money like that and then have a problem with what happens after lmao

>> No.20989811

>>20989789
first of all, he has known japanese and just wanted to get better.

and are you saying you don't think the japanese aren't fake people?

>> No.20989821

>>20989726
I thought it would be another one of those "american "teacher" who's only skill is his knowledge of the language of the country he is living in complaining about people not taking him seriously" videos.

But turns out this nigger didn't even speak Japanese when he moved. That's beyond dancing monkey.

>> No.20989823

a banger a day keeps the dekinai away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmAuwSrs1zw

>> No.20989824

>>20989726
lol this guys so bitter. i wonder why people dont like him?

>> No.20989827

>>20989811
americans are fake too. plus i don't really care about how "real" people are, I think that is a fad propagated by the modern influx of anti intellectual anti marx autists. honestly most "real" people try too hard and come off as just as insincere.

>> No.20989835

watching 実況 instead of arguing about not even ecelebs feels good

>> No.20989837

>>20989827
>I think that is a fad propagated by the modern influx of anti intellectual anti marx autists
that is a lot of jibberish my friend. it sounds like you don't understand the whole point. the fact is that any foreigner living in japan will have a garbage life. right? you all agree. and that japanese people are "fake" in that they never portray their genuine feelings. when americans do this, you can easily see it

>> No.20989846

Doing mattjatt/MIA soon!

>> No.20989847

>>20989837
most of the shit is bs. these guys are just socially retarded. i only lived in tokyo for a year and had extremely good japanese friends, of the kind they say is "impossible". people can just see through their bitterness

>> No.20989848

>>20989837
>the fact is that any foreigner living in japan will have a garbage life. right?
no?
>that japanese people are "fake" in that they never portray their genuine feelings.
theres like a hundred and fifty million of them, you can find normal people to hang out with if you aren't a turbo autist. but you talking in sweeping generalities leads me to believe you're just retarded.

>> No.20989849

why do u think the persona games exist guys

even tho theres high population density people in japan can very often be pretty fucken isolated

>> No.20989853

>>20989217
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-0/perfectionist-path-overview/

>> No.20989854

>>20989344
>as if knowing how much you "should" study will have any impact on how much you actually do study lol
i've always hit my minimum 2 hour mark solely because i was told 2 was the minimum if you want to make progress. i'm almost never actually compelled by the content, but i often study 3 or more hours when i can bear it. i've been doing this for 7 months and i don't see it changing any time soon.

>> No.20989856

>>20989847
>and had extremely good japanese friends
doubt. but keyword "had". you don't anymore. they never gave a shit about you and it seems you were easily fooled.

>>20989848
generalizations are real you fucking idiot. cherry picking is not ideal. it's what you experience MOST of the time that counts.

>> No.20989857

>>20989837
howd u make ur post worse than the one ur replying to lol

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>>20989789
>begs for money from his GF
>she's happy to give it to him
>until she finds out that he wants to spend it on a fucking Japanese teacher because apparently he not only is leeching off of her but can't study on his own
>she is disappointed in him but proceeds to give him money
>her disappointment makes him conclude that she's a fake bitch

How can a man even be such an incel while actually dating a woman?

>> No.20989862

>>20989857
>lol you suck
Great reply. I bet you're Japanese.

>> No.20989863

>>20989849
>even tho theres high population density people in japan can very often be pretty fucken isolated
just like in any other place with high population density

>> No.20989865

>>20989854
do u know any nihongo yet
how soon do u foresee urself givin up and making a blogpost about how japanese is fuckin gay anyway

>> No.20989867

>>20989856
are you that guy that is always spamming this shit in every japan/tefl thread on /trv/?

>> No.20989870

>>20989856
lol actually its me who doesn't give a fuck about them. i had guys calling ME up in the middle of the night asking to hang out. and ppl on my instagram still msging me asking when im coming back to tokyo etc cuz they want to hang out. but im not that sociable & have no plans to go back to japan so im not going to keep developing those relationships.

>> No.20989873

>>20989861
i didnt watch the vid but u make it sound like he found the perfect woman and still fucked it up omigoto

>> No.20989878

>>20989873
The story starts at 6:24

>> No.20989880

Just look at this thread and tell me with a straight face that Jamal and his imitators aren't responsible for the state of djt.

>> No.20989881

>>20989867
No my friend. I've been in this thread the ENTIRE time. If you can pick the post that is me BEFORE I posted about Ryan Boundless, then you will win.

>> No.20989882

>>20989880
What is it you want this thread to be?

>> No.20989885

>>20989880
The imitators and e-celeb faggots are the problem, not Jamal.

>> No.20989886

>>20989863
im not goin down this hole

if uve been in the game u understand whats up (its not anything dramatic like cryin ryan or the ben guy make it out to be)

>> No.20989893

>>20989865
no not even close
by the end of this summer probably but djt will be my blog

>> No.20989896

>>20989885
its ok dude u dont have to hold ppl accountable for themselves u can just blame me for what other ppl do its fine : )

>> No.20989899

>>20989885
Nobody talks about e-celebs except to trigger Jamal, and for that matter Jamal does about 50% of the e-celeb posting himself. Dragging e-celeb shit into this thread so you can call it shit is still e-celeb discussion.

>> No.20989900

お前はあなたが僕の私を我に信じてる

>> No.20989901

>>20989893
u could still save urself if u delete anki and read some good eroge
gambare either way

>> No.20989902

>>20989885
>the imitators of Jamal are the problem
>not Jamal
I just want to respond to this post to ask you if you understand how your post makes no sense for two reasons.

>> No.20989905

>>20989861
the real problem with japan is that the people making these complaints get extra attraction points for being foreign despite the fact they would never be able to date in america so they have no basis on what people are like so they blame the girl as opposed to their own autism.

>> No.20989909

if the state of the thread bothers you so much you should probably just close the tab, it's not like this place is going to help you learn japanese anyways

>> No.20989913

>>20989899
i play with what u guys bring me but im pretty sure if we just go thru this thread ive done by far the least eceleb name dropping and posting in general

>> No.20989915

>>20989902
because imitations are typically far inferior to the 正真正銘 article dude lol

>> No.20989921

>>20989905
this is exactly it. japanese girls are much much more willing to date anyone cuz they're afraid of going unmarried. so you end up with all these loser foreigners dating japanese girls who cant get dates

>> No.20989924

>>20989915
That covers the first reason. It doesn't cover the second reason which is that Jamal posts in a way which provokes imitators, who then go on to shit up the thread. So you can lie and claim that Jamal's posts in themselves are fine, but you can't deny that people attempt to copy him. In fact you've explicitly conceded this.

>> No.20989925
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Oreimo was written by degenerate otaku sadists.

>> No.20989930
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20989930

I gave a fuck about that video up until the point where he tried to describe what constitutes for "real friendship" and realized that I never had friends like this to begin with.

>> No.20989934

I wish I could date a japanese girl like Kirino...

>> No.20989937

>>20989924
were all adult aged ppl here u can be held accountable for ur own actions its a good and adult thing to do

theres leaders and followers in this world but its still the followers choice to be a follower and they can stop any time they want : )

>> No.20989939

im not imitating jamal ive been lowercase posting since like 2005 so calm down

>> No.20989940

>>20989899
>>20989902
Yeah dude, whatever. At least he talks about epic eroge and anime every now and then. The dickriders only talk about normalfag shit and type like they're straight out of tumblr or something.

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>>20989925
sorry to hear this, too bad it is on the syllabus for required reading.

>> No.20989944

*burp*
LEHG, UNLEASHED

low effort high gains.
recall + recognition combined to make a beautiful bouncing 赤ちゃん of understanding. BUT HOW?

traditional reviews force you to produce the reading AND meaning of a new word at the same time. conscious recall for both. this is several times more mentally taxing than consciously recalling just one of those things. and it’s not necessary.

LEHG says, you only need to make significant conscious effort to recall the READING of a new word. that takes a load off, huh? especially when you know about sound sisters and get really good at recognizing them (check dolly’s blog if you don’t know about sound sisters). with the help of those, the number of readings that are actually new to you out of 100 new words could easily be less than 30.

but what about the fucking meaning??? i’ll get to that soon, gotta poop (;

>> No.20989945

oreimo guy is worse than me can we at least agree on that

>> No.20989948

jamal wasn't even a thing one year ago

>> No.20989950

btw break a lehg lehg guy in fact break both leghs lol did not read ANy of that shit

>> No.20989951

Just want to thank everyone posting now for convincing me to close the thread

>> No.20989954

>>20989945
Nah, Oreimo was good and had lots of sexy babes.

>> No.20989957

>>20989948
actually its been abotu a year since i came back to regular posting and playing dude

>> No.20989961

>>20989957
that's what I said

>> No.20989962

>>20989944
>gotta poop (;
but you just did, all over this thread

>> No.20989965

>>20989878
glad i didnt skip the beginning cause that other guys intro has some real energy ww
shouldnt have left out the bit that he wasted money on flowers while taking her money to waste at gaijin school and has no idea why shes not happy to receive them

>> No.20989967

>>20989961
i was a thing before that tho in fact the very thing that led to this thread being on this board

or if u like the reason why theres 2 djt threads on this site

>> No.20989973

>>20989950
your loss, pal! continue sucking at japanese haha

>> No.20989974

>>20989944
i told people to do not bother with meanings like 9 months ago get the fuck out of here scrub

>> No.20989975

>>20989967
you sure must be very proud of yourself

>> No.20989976

>the very thing that led to this thread being on this board
Do you actually believe this?

>> No.20989977

>>20989967
cringe

>> No.20989980

>>20989973
ill take my chances dude here inside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmTwd2x7aCY#t=8

>> No.20989984

Is に sometimes used to mean "and"? Because I sometimes see it being used like that.
Example,
パフェーにケーキにパンケーキもある.
And
名Aに名B etc

>> No.20989985

>>20989940
>At least once in a blue moon he casually drops the title of an eroge he's dropped a billion times while incentivizing imitators to shit up the thread.
Nice argument I guess.

>> No.20989986

>>20989975
>>20989977
quite much but now my ratpack has come back

>> No.20989989

i actually cannot do listening for shit
is there a decent deck for that?

>> No.20989992

>>20989984
Didn't you just answer your own question? Yes.

>> No.20989994

>make list of dozen or so grammar points that i encounter and dont get every time i read
>dont bother actually looking any of it up for weeks
heh

>> No.20989998

は vs が pros/cons ?

>> No.20989999

>>20989989
just watch broadcast tv couple hours each day

>> No.20990003

>>20989992
Ok. I was just wondering why nobody ever mentioned it in any grammar guide, because it seems like an easy thing to cover.

>> No.20990009

jamal take a screenshot of your image folder and post it here.

>> No.20990011

>>20990009
No, we don't want any more cancer in the thread.

>> No.20990013

>>20990003
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in one of the DoJG books.

>> No.20990014

How the fuck do you pronounce「ツ゚」?

>> No.20990018

YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS TO REDPILL ON READING SPEED

>> No.20990020

>>20990018
you just need to reread easier material a lot.

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>>20990009
here u go

>> No.20990027

>>20990014
with tintin o kuwaete

>> No.20990031

>>20990018
It is a byproduct of comprehension and familiarity nothing more

>> No.20990032

>>20990024
just wondering if you have alternate personas. you not answering makes me think you are oreimo guy.

>> No.20990038

>>20990032
o no i dont fuck around like that dude i promise all i have is 1 giant mess of images in 1 dir and a 2nd temp dir for when i rename them all 2 capture.jpg w. a appy i can drag and drop in2

>> No.20990039

>>20990018
read more and you get faster

>> No.20990041

Hate to ask for recs, but I tried several shows and most of them were too difficult to handle.
Anything with particularly straightforward speech for a dekinai like me to watch?
I've completed death note so far only

>> No.20990044

>>20990041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkWkn6TDsEU

do not post again until u finish it

>> No.20990045

>>20990041
precure

>> No.20990055

>>20989998

pros:
absolutely necessary for saying 私はゲイ
versatile and has many uses, like setting the topic, making comparisons, etc

cons:
you can never be sure if you're supposed to read it as wa or ha


pros:
comes with a free dakuten
sounds more manly

cons:
requires drawing an extra stroke

>> No.20990057

i’m back!

the meaning part uses recognition after you’ve recalled the definition. i have to note here that this method works best when learning from context, for reasons that will be clear soon.

the first thing to do once the new word is encountered, is deciding which definition, out of the multiple that the word has, fits the context you saw it in.

pinpoint that one, specific definition. everytime you review, it goes like this:

1. recall reading
2. flip card
3. pinpoint THE definition you chose (recognition)
4. say the reading again while looking at that definition.

that’s it. reviews take a fraction of the energy yet have all the gains because smart recognition (steps 3 and 4) causes the meaning to infuse into your subconscious. soon you will notice the definition popping into your head as soon as you’ve recalled the reading even though you didn’t make conscious effort to remember the definition.

way more cards can get done this way in less time and with less mental drain. which leaves lots of time and energy for more reading, where you can solidify words you’ve learned even more.

lastly, delete words once you’ve seen them in context again (and successfully recalled) at 2 weeks after adding it. and delete any words after it’s next interval reaches 2 months. reading will nurse that word to maturity. you’re welcome!

>> No.20990058

>>20990041
Oreimo

>> No.20990060

>>20990041
steins gate was pretty easy. but for good shows watch yuru yuri, flip flappers, keion, and koe no katachi(movie)

>> No.20990068

>>20989974
no one cared when you did it

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>>20990055
i like that u played but how do u explain THIs

>> No.20990074

>>20990038
あんたなんかあたしの兄貴じゃない

>> No.20990080

>>20990068
at least he did it u never will

do it that is

>> No.20990085

>>20990041
四畳半神話大系
刀語

>> No.20990104

>>20990074
わたしはわたしでしかないよ

ちなみにそのわたしはゲイ

>> No.20990110

>>20990068
i get more yous than u on a daily basis even when i give em away for free like this

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>>20990038
yeah i understand, putting a screen shot of my image file would out my as like 4 different posters.

>> No.20990119

>>20990110
yea but can u honestly say u made good posts from the heart or did u go for cheap easy yous

>>20990113
im not showing u anything on my computer and i think oreimo is fucken trash if thats not enough 4 u then it is what it is

>> No.20990124

>>20990041
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35078/Mitsuboshi_Colors

this is the yotsuba of anime plus it's kinda fun and the op is awesome

>> No.20990132

>>20990041
>>20990124
This. Don't forget to watch ひとりぼっちの〇〇生活 too which is from the same author and airing next season. It's gonna be epic.

>> No.20990133

why do the best manga like berserk shit on the best lns/vns

>> No.20990134

>>20990113
i cant do it cuz i have unfinished works
i delete almost everything ive already posted cuz i keep it fresh
>>20990119
some of each u know i get some real appreciation here and there and other times i just make the op

>> No.20990141

>>20990133
不可思議nakotoiuna

>> No.20990145

>>20990133
Because you don’t have the level of reading comprehension or education necessary to really start to approach interpreting and understanding masterpieces like SubaHibi on anything but a surface level.

>> No.20990146

Is jamal really a 50-something year old from Iceland?

>> No.20990151

Thank you minna. I now have a lot of stuff to watch. You're the best

>> No.20990154

>>20990146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVLhl6BgrjA

>> No.20990157

>>20990145
god i hope you're right because lns and vns are the best learning material but they all look like trash

>> No.20990174

>tfw haven't watched an anime I really liked in months

>> No.20990180

>>20990157
well manga is ok but after reading yuru yuri there is nothing else worth eating so you got to move to lns and vna until you run out of those too. one day you will need to start reading lit.

>> No.20990193

>>20990174
Have you seen Highschool DxD?

>> No.20990194

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFn9YGrRvIU
banger if feeling like 自殺 is your thing

>> No.20990201

>>20990193
who tf do you think you're talking to man

>> No.20990209

>>20990174
you can always just give oreimo the 7th rewatch.

>> No.20990216

how do i befriend xiaovin

>> No.20990223

>>20990174
It is likely you will never learn japanese, but in the off chance that you do there won't be anything you will enjoy.

>> No.20990224

tell him u wanna be chinese learning buddies will do it

>> No.20990227

>>20990223
i haven't found anything better than re zero.

>> No.20990231

>>20990227
No spoilers I started watching that yesterday.

>> No.20990234

You already failed learning japanese if you know anything about any of the following people: onichan poster, jamal, bad rap video poster, lowercase kun, xiaovin still don't know whos this is and word of the day guy RIP as of 2018

>> No.20990237

Aren't those all the same person or is that the joke?

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>> No.20990241

>>20990231
i'm not gonna spoil, but other people might. be careful. in my opinion it's the best anime i ever watched, but i don't really watch a lot of anime.

>> No.20990245

>>20990234
If you know anything about people associated with Japanese learning in any way you're already a complete failure.

Mentioning individual people in this thread by name should be made a bannable offense.

>> No.20990247

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l_ZlQQU4ZE
how can any sane person think this intro is any way normal jesus fuckin christ lol

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>>20990227
I used to feel the same way but it just takes time. you never find something better than when you first saw it you just get numb to the idea of it and like it less.

>> No.20990254

>>20990241
it's good but it's not really close to best of all time so you should watch more shows.

>> No.20990260

>>20990247
i dont think anyone ever said it was normal

also the first 15 secs of that vid are so good

>> No.20990261

>>20990245
>Mentioning individual people in this thread by name should be made a bannable offense.
why?

>> No.20990264

>>20990080
did it!

>> No.20990266

if i was born yesterday id prolly think the isekai anime is good lol

>> No.20990274

>>20990261
because this is serious learning environment duuuh

>> No.20990277

滑骨

anyone else love this little guy

>> No.20990280

>>20990234
here u go dude ill give u what u really want

todays nihongo word of the day is 混迷

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>> No.20990294

>>20990280
In the end you're just gansakuing the real guy

>> No.20990295

>>20990266
it is not the individual show itself. it is more the proximity, whether the show is eva, madoka, steins gate, re zero, or something else it is just the show that you become extremely attached to within your first 10ish shows. I dislike most shows but when I watched eva i was extremely invested, if i were to watch another similar show now i prolly would not like it tho.

i think kill la kill, hunterxhunter, bnoku no hiro, etc are bad but a lot of people love those shows.

>> No.20990297

>>20990294
*in neo voice*

i am the real guy

>> No.20990313

泪 makes more sense than 涙

>> No.20990322

the first anime i watched was fmab and im 500 deep now and its still my favorite so there is some truth to that tbqh

>> No.20990327

>>20990157
if u cant enjoy eroge right now in ur current state ur not gonna make it
>>20990239
this guys gotta be a djeeter i cant believe hes real anymore

>> No.20990330

>>20990322
yeah and i could not stand fmab and dropped it after a couple of incredibly boring episodes.

My first anime was yu yu hakusho and still like it quite a bit but my fav is probs haruhi, as i watched it as a teenager as opposed to as a kid when i watched yu yu hakusho.

>> No.20990332

I, too, have very fond memories of my first few, but I have the same feelings about some I watched way later like Dusk Maiden of Amnesia.

>> No.20990336

>>20990327
i gotta say if hes a gimmick and can make this vid with a complete straight face https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CakuzaTNnw calvins a god of uh pretending to be retarded for the lulz

>> No.20990342

ur weak if ur favorite anime is one of the first ten u watched unless u scored a jackpot on the anime roulette
i have attachment to my early ones but by no means do i think theyre actually good

>> No.20990347

>>20990342
it doesnt have to be good to be my favorite

>> No.20990350

yah most of the early animes i saw are complete trash i found some of my all time faves like 10+ years deep dude and even some 20+ years deep

>> No.20990354

>>20990322
fmab was one of my first but the more shows i watched the more overrated i felt it was.

>> No.20990363

whats with all these kids who started on fmab
get off my lawn have u even watched the real shit with the anime original ending yeah i think not scrubs

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>>20990342
what is your favorite from the last 5 years ie 2014-now?

>> No.20990369

if your fav anime is on netflix you know you shouldnt be here

>> No.20990374

how would i know if my fave ani is on netflix when i dont have netflix

>> No.20990375

Post your honest top three so we can shit on each other

Shinsekai yori
Darker than black season 1
Shirobako

>> No.20990376

Am I the only one here who has never watched an anime and just thinks Japan has an interesting culture?

>> No.20990377

is berserk 97 on netflix?

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You are probably too young if pic related wasn't your fudeorosi

>> No.20990382

not my fault saban decided to rape it

>> No.20990384

if your neesama did not intro you to anime as a 5 year old you are a pleb.

>> No.20990388

>>20990375
mob psycho
berserk
HxH
darker than black

>> No.20990389

>>20990375
u are the worst fuckin trash id tell u to go back to gaia but u prolly werent even born yet

>> No.20990390

>>20990376
Yes.

>> No.20990396

>>20990379
good to see one of my boys finally watched maho pigjo

>> No.20990403

>>20990388
run of the mill trash nothin to see here

>> No.20990402

>>20990375
アリア
ソ・ラ・ノ・ヲ・ト
逆境無頼カイジ

>> No.20990405

How would I even know if my fav anime is on netflix?

My top 3:
Horizon in the middle of nowhere
Yosuga no Sora
Hyouka
K-On
I can't pick favourites

>> No.20990410

im gonna be honest
i got like 2 hours a day to study japanese
anki takes like 1 hour
and i spend 1 hour fapping to oreimo porn
should i drop anki to read manga/watch anime for some weeks?

>> No.20990411

>>20990410
Yes.

>> No.20990412

>>20990402
if u removed the second one id say u were just ok but ur kinda shit

>>20990405
haha very funny

>> No.20990416

>>20990403
i don't watch obscure animes. they're obscure for a reason

>> No.20990420

jamal is an anime elitist, who could have possibly predicted that lol

>> No.20990423

>>20990416
its not that u have to watch obscure anime its that u have to watch something that tells me what kind of man u r and none of those do that

>>20990420
fuck yea i am dude

>> No.20990424

>>20990410
Do anki for 30 minutes and watch an episode of anime a day.
>>20990412
I wasn't being funny though
>>20990420
You just have bad taste

>> No.20990427

>>20990423
>that tells me what kind of man u r and none of those do that
well which ones do that and i'll watch them

>> No.20990429

>>20990412
I put Sora no Woto in there because I was too embarrassed to put K-ON.

>> No.20990431

>>20990376
I don't care about anime either
I do think the culture is interesting but I'm mainly here cuz I have yellow fever

>> No.20990432

>>20990416
they are obscure for 1 of two reasons. either they are older to the point before most modern anime fans started or they are niche. neither of those means bad. popular shows are bad too, see bnha and kill la kill.

>> No.20990438

what I want from my anime:
moeshit
lolis
virgins
weddings
yamatonadeshiko
tsundere
tsuntsun
deredere
oppai
reunions
childhood friends

>> No.20990441

>>20990427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bs2_rQVCVQ

>>20990429
lol its ok dude k-on was a pretty well timed anime cant relaly hate on it

>> No.20990444

bokurano
millenium actress
initial D

>> No.20990445

>>20990432
>or they are niche
aka bad
>popular shows [can be] bad too, see bnha and kill la kill.
fully agreed on this though.

>> No.20990450 [DELETED] 

please relay the hate onto me lol

>> No.20990460

>>20990444
boku is fuckin trash (op is good)

anything satoshi kon makes u insta trash

initial d ftw tho (5th stage isnt real)

>> No.20990461

>>20990438
If it wasn't for moeshit and yamatonadeshiko you'd have highschool dxd
>>20990450
Your mum smells like sea men

>> No.20990463

Guilty Crown
Attack on titan
Sword art online

>> No.20990468

sorry u dont get to play twice ill only respond in earnest 2 1 shit bait per person

>> No.20990474
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20990474

Post your eroge/anime/manga daughter

>> No.20990475
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20990475

re zero
oreimo
yuru yuri

3 is low, i need like 10 to really show my taste

koe no katachi
haruhi
nhk ni youkoso
steins gate
eva
imouto sae ireba ii
keion

>> No.20990476

>>20990474
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67IQ1Jr-4RM

>> No.20990481

cozy vibes itt I like it

>> No.20990485

Urusei Yatsura
Evangelion
Darling in the FranXX

>> No.20990486

>>20990475
all i can do is hope that a real boy with some real heart posts soon but i expect nothing more than this level

>> No.20990489

>>20990475
What taste?

>> No.20990490

Goblin Slayer
Darlin in the Fraxxx
Rezero

>> No.20990491

>>20990405
>Horizon in the middle of nowhere
gonna give this a watch

>> No.20990493

>>20990485
let me guess u also enjoy city poop

>> No.20990494

>>20990489
sorry i had to emmit like 100 more of my favorites

>> No.20990500

Dragon Ball :)

>> No.20990506
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20990506

>>20990500
Shit taste, Z is superior

>> No.20990508

i love dragonballz also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4OU6BUKo-A

>> No.20990510

consdier this how could u ever like original dragonball every1s power levels were so low LOL

>> No.20990511

>>20990506
the manga is just called dragon ball
and the manga >>>>>>> anime

>> No.20990512
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20990512

At what point do sentences become easy to understand? I'm currently ~N4/N3. I'm going through an NHK Easy article and I could understand the meaning of every word, but still not understand what they're trying to say in a natural way due to the placement of particles/combination of sentences.

Is this lack of grammar knowledge or just how i'm processing the information as I read it? I feel like i'm constantly trying to understand the meaning of an English quadruple negative sentence, tracing things back and forth until I get to the intended meaning. I'm trying not to convert it to English first to understand it and i'm sure the explanation of "just read it in Japanese" is the correct answer but at what point did that not become so difficult?

Example:
>町の中や駅にある「公衆電話」の使い方を子どもに教えるウェブサイトを作りました.
How I read it:
>In towns and stations are public telephones's way of usage to kids teaching website was made.
Obviously I can kinda get what they mean but it's so jumbled in my head it doesn't immediately tell me:
>We have created a website that teaches children how to use "public phones" in towns and in stations.
To think in Japanese is almost like to think in a programming sense. I just need to understand how particles encapsulate prior sentences better.

>Was made(Website(Teach children(usages of public phones)))

>> No.20990522

>>20990512
Watch more anime.

>> No.20990525

>>20990511
We were talking about anime you dweeb.

>> No.20990526

>>20990512
idk how to explain it other than at some point u get sick of "trying" to understand then u just start understanding

its actually sick its like taking off ur weighted clothes that u never really needed in the first place

>> No.20990528

>>20990522
im not the guy you are talking to but ive seen 500 hours so far of raw/jap subbed. how good should i be if i have also read 20 volumes of manga, 21 volumes of ln, 4 eroge, 2 real novels?

>> No.20990529

>>20990525
u cant talk about anime w. the manga superiority squad rollin up in ur shit its like u forgot the good old days on /a/

>> No.20990530

>>20990529
The good old days I spend on /b/, I only started watching a lot of anime later.

>> No.20990539

>>20990530
how did u come to this site if u started watching anime "later" wtf

>> No.20990540

>>20990512
Read more. Some of the sentences will make your head spin even after several years.

>> No.20990544

>>20990539
I was watching anime already, but only a couple of 'em. A friend introduced me to this site, mainly to /b/.

>> No.20990547

>>20990539
i started going to /b/ in like 2006 cause of the habbo hotel raiding n shit and then moved to /v/. didnt watch my first anime until like 2010 lol (except DBZ obv)

>> No.20990548

>>20990539
/pol/

>> No.20990550

>>20990528
I don't know. But does it matter? All that matters is how good you are, and only you know that.

>> No.20990551

late to the party i had a hard time picking 3 stellar animes
eoe
gto
kgne

>> No.20990555

>>20990547
u gotta get outta my thread dude

>>20990551
LOL ill pass u only cuz no1 could consistently link a solid top 3 and bonus points for watching the 3rd 1 lol

>> No.20990558

>>20990550
i mean i have never spoken japanese and i feel like i would only be able to say basic shit, but i do feel like i could understand most things a person would say and be able to find a way to convey my thought. but how were you at this point?

>> No.20990560

>>20990551
bonus link 4 u https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydD6YJazPBw

>> No.20990567

>>20990555
3rd was one of my earliest animes
when do i get to see ur top 3

>> No.20990572

How do I prevent myself from falling a la Calvin?

>> No.20990576

what does true happiness mean to you all?
is japanese all you have?

>> No.20990577

>>20990567
idk if i have a top 3 for u thats really hard lol

ill do it tho hang on

>> No.20990578

>>20990558
I don't read LNs or novels, so no idea.

>> No.20990584

>>20990576
idk but i will go there next year after graduating. I have alternatives but japan seems like a fun change of pace as i have lived a fairly boring risk free life up to this point. I think it might be cool to do social jobs as apposed to technical ones for once.

>> No.20990585

mob psycho is the best anime

>> No.20990599

>>20990576
reading vns and seeing sitei relationships evolve into something serious is what makes me happy

>> No.20990605

jamal must have a big dick with a name like that

>> No.20990609

>>20990512
I feel like I'm slowly making my way out of this and experiencing >>20990526

>> No.20990613

Is it bad if I'm so depressed that studying Nihongo is literally the only thing keeping me busy and distracted from suicide?

Anyone else like this?

>> No.20990614

>>20990613
同感

>> No.20990615

>>20990576
i havent experienced feelings of pleasure or happiness in 10 years so nothing. i dont even have a reason to study japanese, i just do it to pass the time.

>> No.20990618

>>20989587
>and lastly, white girls are usually the most attractive. that goes with white guys in general too. asian women are not attractive. black women are not attractive.

fuckin reported lmao we got a crackhead in our hands boys

>> No.20990625

>>20990567
ok it wasnt that hard

あの夏で待ってる throwback done perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvoyigbzzHU

エフ owns really fuckin hard (its the 1st anime directed by the bee train guy if u know what im talkin about ur already better than the rest of this thread) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iflsELvgrfw

機動戦艦ナデシコ u cant fuck w. this dont even try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lll-thNE_eY

>> No.20990628
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20990628

I was like that once. Marriage is the only way out.

>> No.20990632

Imagine replying to 3 hours old posts

>> No.20990637

>>20990625
>あの夏で待ってる
id watch this if romance shows didnt make me feel like shiet

>> No.20990643

>>20990637
its only worth if u watched the other shows from the early 2000s

i actually took care 2 cover the 80s 90s 00s and 10s all in 3 animes can u fuckin believe it

>> No.20990653

>>20990625
added them to my list nabisco better be some real good shit

>> No.20990654

>>20989769
were you abused as a child

>> No.20990659

>>20989827
you’re not real, sucks to suck

>> No.20990661

>>20990653
idk dude i think if ur out of touch with its era ur going to miss most of why its good but then again if ur the eoe guy haha maybe ull be ok

>> No.20990677

>>20989870
you’re a girl?

>> No.20990685
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20990685

would i write this if i wasnt

>> No.20990692

>>20990685
What do I need to do to receive this message as well?

>> No.20990694

>>20990677
no im just a cool guy who knows how to have fun, unlike the bitter nerds in that video

>> No.20990705

>>20989068
>smoking anki
pretty accurate

>> No.20990706

am i really the only girl here then i thought we were gettin hella 女同士 in this bitch

>> No.20990711

>>20989999
that shit sucks

>> No.20990717

>>20990613
I work out, have a dog, vape, do drugs/drink once a month, immerse in nihongo, and stay happy as fuck. It's the middle way of buddha.

>> No.20990725

>>20990020
hell yeah. repeated reading, jiggas

>> No.20990726

>>20990706
There's a bunch of ゲイ dudes though

>> No.20990729

i work out have a dog vape eat ass once a month immerse in nihongo and stay happy af its the middle way of the buddha

>> No.20990732

>>20990024
i genuinely laughed bwahaha

>> No.20990745

>>20990705
i always tell em not to overdose

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20990747

>>20990729
If the middle way was not at least 2.2 kids, you would not have been born.

>> No.20990748

>>20990124
agreed, 三つ星カラーズ is the shitttt

>> No.20990762

>>20990180
>after reading yuru yuri there is nothing else worth eating

read わたモテ and you will eat your words

>> No.20990796

>konnochiwa
>konnochiha
>ha
>wa
This is the most retarded shit ever

>> No.20990798

>>20990796
its just a particle whats ur problem

>> No.20990799

>>20990796
huh?????

>> No.20990801

>>20990796
i didnt read the konnochi part ww

>> No.20990806

>>20990547
habbo hotel raiding?

>> No.20990808

>>20990799
HAA???
WAAA???

>> No.20990811

>>20990558
practice shadowing, and record yourself talking about random shit, like the anime you watched/stuff you read. lots of input will improve the vocab and grammar you can eventually access when communicating but you have to actually start using your mouth for that shit to activate.

>> No.20990814

>>20990806
pools long since closed my ninja

>> No.20990822

>>20990806
crazy theres ppl on here who dont even know about this shit these days

>> No.20990833

>>20990613
>>20990614
meditate. but don’t do TMI like matt recommends. do this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/streamentry/comments/6kn08x/a_crash_course_in_tranquil_wisdom_insight/?st=JT7Y86ZX&sh=3a7e4705
this is really the magic pill for people who are very sad. but you have to let go of any preconceptions and just give it a sincere try. read the comments first if skeptical. then click the wiki link.

>> No.20990835

>>20990822
I messed around and got raided by the fbi back then, then the court ordered I couldn't go on 4chan during my case lol. Oh the good ol days of 4chan.

>> No.20990845

>>20990796
>lead (verb)
>ea is now read as long i
>lead (material)
>ea is now read as short e
This is the most retarded shit ever

>> No.20990847

remember guys dont listen to that guy telling u to do something and then follows it with a reddit link

thats satan trying to work his way to u but u can resist

>> No.20990851

>>20990613
>>20990614
I recommend Eckhart Tolle. He rambles on about depression till it seems silly and suddenly I'm happy.

>> No.20990860

>>20990845
i kinda want a spelling reformation but it'd make me kinda sad if a drastic difference in spelling accelerated the divergence in english between countries. on the other hand so long as america stays dominant in its cultural exports i suppose most ESLs in the world would still follow suit.

>> No.20990885

>>20990860
think of all the text the next generation wouldnt be able to read

>> No.20990915

平平凡凡
how can you not love this language?

>> No.20990928

>>20990915
eh kanji is just kinda gay and stupid is all, and a lot of different words sound the same

>> No.20990972

入り
eye-ri
wtf

>> No.20991015

全員
zenging
wtf

>> No.20991036

japanese is scary and i don't think i'll ever be able to understand it so i just treat this place like a hangout

>> No.20991040

太腿
futomomo
wtf

>> No.20991044

next thread pls

>> No.20991095

>>20991036
Just keep posting. The desire to be the saikyou-gaijin will rub off on you.

>> No.20991100

Any got any beginner/intermediate reading recommends? Been studying for a while, but never thought of using reading to reinforce and immerse till a few days ago. Don't feel too confident tackling something too complex yet. Looked up children's stories, but a lot of them are either written with barely any kanji at all, or have outdated terms/grammar. Would do vns, but idk how to get the text out in a way i can easily look up words without having to draw them in some kanji recognition thing.

>> No.20991103

who cares about saikyo i just wanna be the sexiest

>> No.20991125

>>20991100
You really have to mainly immerse or youll just forget your anki or never make it transition to language. It's useless in that state except for doing more anki.

>> No.20991135

>>20991100
Is there a book you love in English that's been translated into Japanese? If so get that, buy it as an ebook from Rakuten so you can use Calibre to turn it into html, read it with yomichan, don't worry about catching every word and trust your memory of the original to carry you through the story. If you really want save a few words into Anki, but make sure to limit your daily Anki usage to 30 minutes or less.

>> No.20991164

did 25 new words/day for 40 days, dropped to 10 words today and it felt like 楽園

>> No.20991182

>>20991100
>Would do vns, but idk how to get the text out
ithvnr or textractor with the dekinai google translate extension removed

>> No.20991257

>>20990706
>am i the only girl
i’m a girl too. no one believes me though lol. i’m the one who wrote the pink note, people keep stealing it and claiming it was them lmao

>> No.20991263

>>20991257
are you single

>> No.20991307

>>20991257
shut the fuck up

>> No.20991312

>>20991257
youre a fucking tranny thats why your "kuri" is so sensitive

>> No.20991367

>shallow femanon bait
>3 yous
ur all dumber than who ur replying to

>> No.20991371

私はトランスジェンダー女です。/DJT/はトランスジェンダーが好きですか?

>> No.20991380

>>20991371
正直言って気持ち悪いだ

>> No.20991390

>>20991380
Why? :(

>> No.20991469

How can I extract all of the kanji from an anki deck?

>> No.20991476

how in the fuck am i supposed to balance nihongo with my other hobbies? media consumption and nihongo go hand in hand but what about creative work? how do i do it?

>> No.20991480

>>20991476
listen to podcasts or radio talkshows while doing your creative work

>> No.20991485
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20991485

僕はいつも独りだよ

>> No.20991489

>>20991476
Ajatt wasn't just a meme bro.. you have to throw all of your hobbies in the trash for a few years unless you want to learn the language in a decade.

>> No.20991514

>>20991476
Just drop them or put them on hold? It's what I did.

>> No.20991559 [DELETED] 

>>20990706
>>20991312
exhibit A of not believing I’m a girl. lol this guy’s especially psycho about it.

i think he’s had a traumatic experience with a trans person. either that or he’s secretly attracted to trans women — which is totally fine. sucks he can’t just be upfront with himself about it though, or get the psychiatric help he needs.

>> No.20991569

>>20991559
i dont have a problem with trannies just you in particular cause ur fuckin annoying

>> No.20991576

>>20991476
do listening as you create. start with audio ripped from anime you’ve watched. music is good too. it’s possible to get so good at listening that you learn words from hearing them, looking them up and studying those.

>> No.20991591

>>20991569
you seriously need to see a psychiatrist if you make enemies this easily with people who don’t even talk to you. sounds like some kind of personality disorder.

>> No.20991626

>>20991591
It is indeed annoying if someone goes consistenly out of their way to point out that they're a girl, which you are certainly guilty of doing.

>> No.20991665

>>20991626
sorry i don’t like repeatedly being called “he” and not saying anything? that’s literally the only time i mention it, and when the other girl(s?) on here ask if there are other girls. super idiotic reason to start harassing someone endlessly.

>> No.20991671

>>20991665
I don't mind girls here to mix things up. ようこそ

>> No.20991679

>>20991591
>sounds like some kind of personality disorder.
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness btw

>> No.20991683

>>20991469
sqlite

>> No.20991701

TFW i can't go to /djt/ and have legitimate discussions about Japanese language learning without being reminded how toxically transphobic this thread is

>> No.20991709

>>20991701
stop constantly making the discussion about how much of a girl you are and you don't have to be reminded

>> No.20991713

>>20991701
何故ならあまり異形と思い
とにかく退屈している、だからこちらは無料「you」だ

>> No.20991727

>>20991665
ur nothing but lowercase with punctuation poster #69 to me
and that should make u happy otherwise why r u even here

>> No.20991731

>>20991709
I'm not that anon, btw.
People here call me he/guy/man/whatever/etc. all the time on here and I have never once tried to correct them

>> No.20991733 [DELETED] 

>Pinyin.....What's that? I am no longer learning pinyin. I have decided that I am learning BoPoMoFo. This is the phonetic system that is used in Taiwan. In my opinion, this system makes a lot more sense. One symbol = one sound. Coming from a Japanese background, this immediately resonates with me. Pinyin sucks...I hate it.
xiaovin is decaying at an incredibly fast rate

>> No.20991738

>>20991733
lmfao

>> No.20991742

>>20991733
>Pinyin sucks...I hate it.
this guy just loves the idea of having learned things but hates actually learning things

>> No.20991749

>>20991733
I thought this was satire halfway through until I realized you were literally quoting him

>> No.20991753

>>20991733
what the fUCK is his problem also
>but with time I know that it will be second nature to me, just like kana.
>Stuff like シ and ツ would trip me up all the time!

>> No.20991757

He barely learned 妹 last time

>> No.20991764

his chonese journey is practically already over
wondering if he'll go back to japanese or try arabic next

>> No.20991770

>>20991671
thanks dude

>> No.20991781
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20991781

if only he learned 妹. he could've learned japanese. after all, 妹's all you need.

>> No.20991791

だから…妹さえいればいい…

>> No.20991802

妹足美味しそうね

>> No.20991803

I was looking for a list of Japanese eroge terms. It was shared recently but I can't find it again. It had Japanese and English. Does anyone still have it and can pastebin it?

>> No.20991807

>>20991803
You need to describe what you're talking about in more detail, you could be asking for anything.

>> No.20991811

in anki what does max interval really mean? does it just keep the card coming back at that max interval or does it bury the card or something once you can answer it past that interval?

>> No.20991826
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20991826

I just finished two seasons of Oreimo. This writer is a poser and a sick man, and people who want to destroy Japan are the ones funding his projects. Yes, it's relatively easy to understand this anime, but I think they made it that way to corrupt a younger audience.

>> No.20991830

>>20991807
Sorry. I thought I was clear enough. Apparently not
It was a list of vocabs
Xxxx - make it raw
Xxxx - ejaculate
Xxxx - vagina
Sorry for the lack of creativity, anon

It was shared recently and I'm not sure where... Whether discord, here, reddit. Can't remember
I do remember it was a spreadsheet or at least /tab separated

>> No.20991839

>>20991811
It means that the interval is limited to X days. So if you see card X and it had an interval of 100 days, and your interval limit is 150, then the card will have a new interval of 150 days instead of 200ish or 250ish days.

>>20991830
Are you thinking about something like a comparison between vncore and other core decks? I haven't seen anything else like that posted here.

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20991851

>>20991826
You should watch/read eromanga sensei. It's basically a direct upgrade. You can also watch 妹さえいればいい if you want the same thing but in the exact opposite direction.

>> No.20991871

>>20991839
I know I'm terribly explaining things, but dude where did you got that ideia from? I didn't say anything about vncore nor core stuff. Wtf

I don't like to sound rude, specially when I'm asking for something, but I think I was clear as a crystal.

I am looking for a recently shared spreadsheet/pastebin where there were many "erotic words" in both Japanese and English.

That's all
No vncore nor core...

>> No.20991883

>>20991871
Chill out man, I'm just saying I haven't seen anything like that posted here. I picked the closest thing I know of.

>> No.20991895

>>20991839
thanks! do you know if there’s a way for me to auto-suspend a card when it’s reached a certain interval? or been reviewed a certain number of times?

>> No.20991899

>>20991895
You'd need an addon for that.

>> No.20991902

>>20991883
I see. Thanks, anon. Sorry about that

>> No.20991909

>>20991851
I'm too traumatized to think about imouto. I'm NOT lying: two days ago I dreamt I was fucking my 妹 because of this anime. I imagined the smell of her pussy even. I woke up 気持ち悪い. Traumatizing. I've never been a siscon. And now I know how it ends. No sir. If you say so, I'll probably watch Imouto sae Ireba Ii in a few months.

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>>20991909
You just have to remember that 2d isn't 3d. If you've having dreams about 3d, you're not far enough down the rabbit hole yet. Go deeper.

>> No.20991926

>>20991733
lol i rly dont understand him. he just wants to be good instantly and doesnt have the patience. hes gonna be complaining about bopomofo tomorrow.

in 10 days he'll have deleted his blog and started a new one at day 0 cuz "thats the real starting point now ive got settled and learned pinyin for real this time"

>> No.20991935

>>20991665
stfu just deal with it. only a tranny would care so much about being *scoffs* misgendered

>> No.20991938

Girls pretend to be guys when they post on 4chan most of the time anyway.

>> No.20991942

>>20991923
We were fucking in Kirino's room on her bed. The room was cel shaded but still semi-3D. I wish I was kidding.

>> No.20991944

>>20991942
Looks like you need to read more loli eromanga and erodoujinshi.

>> No.20991949

>>20991733
Who predicted this more or less immediately?

>> No.20991953

>>20991909
This happens to everyone. Why feel guilty about it? In your dreams you fuck anyone, it doesn’t mean you really want to do it.

>> No.20991961

>>20991953
It's okay to want things you can't have, anon. You just have to make due with something else. Personally, I fuck my bed.

>> No.20991964

>>20991926
>in 10 days he'll have deleted his blog and started a new one at day 0 cuz "thats the real starting point now ive got settled and learned pinyin for real this time"
nah hes gonna delete his blog and then start a new one saying "I'm learning Cantonese now, I realized I didn't even like Mandarin in the first place!"
im starting to wonder if matt is even at fault here xiaovin seems doomed from the start

>> No.20991973

>>20991953
>In your dreams you fuck anyone
i aint ever dreamed about fuckin my family

>> No.20991985

>>20991926
>>20991964
my money is on "matt was right u gotta go all in or nothin ive been bein a punk bitch with my language learnin by avoidin heisig so im droppin bopomofo and goin hard with the rth before i do anything else"

>> No.20991991

>>20991953
I don't feel guilty: it was gross. I don't know if you have a sister. Mine is just like the character. I can imagine fucking her as a hypothetical and it's nothing. But to feel it and taste it in a dream, is disgusting. The anti-sister-fucking emotion is very strong in normal people. It was terrible.

>>20991944
Humn.

>> No.20991997

crouching heisig hidden calvin

>> No.20991999

>>20991935
just gonna ignore you now. have fun arguing with yourself and being psycho.

>> No.20992006

dont forget to let us know ur here if we forget though might i suggest a trip

>> No.20992012

>>20991991
Here you go, my friend: https://exhentai.org/g/1243091/dc0908ba8f/
Hope you know how to get past the panda.

>> No.20992028

>>20991991
>Mine is just like the character.
i keep comin back to this line thinkin wtf is ur problem

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>>20992012
変態です

>> No.20992053 [DELETED] 

Hey duders, I'm Jared or more commonly Kleptomanta. I'm 19, from New Zealand and technically started doing AJATT (now MIA) a year ago but for various reasons would consider myself at roughly the 6 month mark (described in too much depth here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKUZN6gXU4).). I've been in the server before and you can probably find an older introduction if you scroll up far enough but between a lot of failure with MIA and immense personal struggles I barely consider myself the same person I was a year ago so a new introduction feels warranted. As for goals I mainly just want to get my reading and listening ability to a level where I can more or less do it the same way as I do in English. However I don't want to ruin my accent or other areas as I understand the goalposts will shift. As for media I'm super into the 科学ADV series (the thing steins;gate's in) and danganronpa is pretty neat too. I'm currently most interested in light novels and to a lesser extent visual novels. Will be interesting to see what the server is like these days ;)

>> No.20992064

new calvin blog already!!!!

>> No.20992081

>The important part here is "It doesn’t matter if you can’t remember what a character means; what really matters is that characters look like something to you; not a glob of scribbles". Kanji does not look like scribbles to me. I have some experience with Japanese. Chinese characters are familiar enough to me. So it is best for me to just get to mining and do traditional RTK in stage 4. There have been people like 808Cuck who didn't even do RTK at all until he was already fluent (if I am wrong about this I do apologize). So I think even if I didn't have the little experience of kanji that I do have, I would still most likely just skip it and get straight to mining and do traditional RTK later.
there may be hope yet

>> No.20992085

> I have my journey planned out quite nicely, but I am being cautious about not getting too stressed out and failing. And if I eat my words and find out that maybe doing lazy hanzi is in fact a good idea for me, then I will be sure to post that and cover my face in shame while typing out my blog post.
or maybe not

>> No.20992098

mitsuboshi color is very hard to read
it contains complicated zi like
捕獲
大作戦開始
うんこ

>> No.20992102

>>20992012
>imouto doujin
Senpai is cruel.
>>20992028
I have to stop blogging.

I'm going to watch Kiss x Sis for now.

>> No.20992109

how many years can you spend not reading and still keep not reading convinced you’ll soon be able to read

>> No.20992136

>>20992102
Just enjoy your imouto yumes even God doesn’t judge your for your dreams, I’ve had like 10 and when I wake up I go back to sleep so it can continue it’s no big deal bro just relax.

>> No.20992141

what should i fuck if i dont own an imouto?

>> No.20992146

>>20992102
i dont even mean wtf is wrong with u even though thats a good question
ur tryin really hard to desensitize urself to somethin while sayin this aint me kimoti wari

>> No.20992155

>>20992141
your pillow

>> No.20992171

>>20992102
Embrace the little sister complex, anon. It's the only way to control it. Suppressing it will only make it stronger.

>> No.20992263

>>20992053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKUZN6gXU4&t=2982

>> No.20992269

post a jisatsu banger

>> No.20992288

>>20992269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hYQqbRPJ4U

>> No.20992296

still can't believe xiaovin that's such an on-the-nose parody and he actually fucking did it

>> No.20992336

what the fuck does めくれてる mean

>> No.20992349

>>20992269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX_cUjMByGs

>> No.20992387
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-AfT8XW63w

>In-Depth J-J Dictionary Walkthrough by Matt
>1 hour 40

>> No.20992389

言う 云う 謂う
喋る 
語る 
話す 咄す
述べる 陳べる 宣べる
luv this language

>> No.20992402

>>20992389
申す
伝える
吐かす
仰る

>> No.20992404

>>20992387
can't they just read?

>> No.20992405

J-J Dictionary 100% RTA (FULL)

>> No.20992410

>>20992402
この言語をラブしてる

>> No.20992423

>>20992336
なんだろ

ぺらっとしたものが

くるっとしたかんじ

>> No.20992428

u forgot ur oniichan~

>> No.20992432

>>20992387
sick im gonna immerse in this walkthrough instead of my anime

>> No.20992445

>>20992432
If sensei was serious, wouldn't his videos be in nihongo?

>> No.20992459

>>20992445
he says that would be cringe

>> No.20992482

Oh man i cant wait till im home to get on my favorite safe space tranny loving dtj board and discuss how im actually a girl

>> No.20992487

atashi wa onnanoko wa
honto ni itterundakara ne
b-baka!

>> No.20992491

>>20992482
性転換手術もうやったんですか?

>> No.20992505

>>20992389
The good thing is you don't have to give a fuck about the distinction until you're good enough to understand the nip explanation. Just keep in mind somewhere that 言 isn't the canonical universal concept for "say" and you're good.
A shitload of 類義語 and 同義語 have "wrong" but "accepted" colloquial usages anyways

>> No.20992507

is あの子 a very girly thing to use?

>> No.20992511
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Feast your eyes.

>> No.20992515

>>20992511
Too old.

>> No.20992534

>>20992507
あほのこ?

>> No.20992559

>>20992511
holy shit my fucking dick i wanna do kiriYES!

>> No.20992565

How retarded will I sound if I use わが instead of わたしの? I've picked up this habit of using わが whenever I want to say "my [x]"

>> No.20992572

>>20992565
pretty weird... never heard any 3d japanese male say that

>> No.20992633

綺麗な女の子を見たら私のチンポが上げる

>> No.20992640

>>20992565
我が名は空等闇(くらやみ)にてあり。

>> No.20992653

>>20992565
>わたし
Imagine unironically saying that as a guy

>> No.20992657

>>20992572
I see. I'll try to break that habit then.

>>20992653
I mean, I use it if I'm talking to strangers or superiors. I obviously drop it for talking to friends.

>> No.20992673

>>20992565
imagine if you knew a japanese guy who said "minest" instead of "my" for everything
"i gotta go pick up minest kids"
"this is minest cat"
"you can have some of minest food"

>> No.20992951

>>20992507
males use あの娘

>> No.20992969

>no new cards for a week+
>barely any reading done
>i can feel my japanese degrading
it's not fair bros midterms are not fair

>> No.20992971

You didn't really think you could learn japanese without either being in japan or being a NEET?

>> No.20993003
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I mentioned a week ago or so that my retarded neighbors were building some sort of wooden box thing.

Well pic related is what it is and it's just randomly sitting in the woods next to our building. What the fuck dude.

>> No.20993013

>>20992971
>Studying law at university
>Even taking extra subjects this semester
>Also volunteering at a law firm
>Still have time for my daily Japanese study and vidya
I mean, my social life is completely dead, but it's not impossible.

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Never going to make it. Some words just don't stick.

>> No.20993018

>>20993016
Come up with a mnemonic to make them stick.

>> No.20993024

>>20993016
At least you were able to answer correctly on the mature card. That's good. Keep it up!

>> No.20993025

>>20993016
>mature cards 1/1
come back when you've been at it longer than a month

>> No.20993029

>>20993016
1. It gets much easier as you learn more
2. Stop adding 80 cards a day you dolt

>> No.20993035

>>20993018
I try for some words, but can't think of any for words like 軽い. I swear I've done this one every day for the last two weeks.
>>20993024
Thanks at least I have something.
>>20993025
That's just today. I have been at it a month and according to anki have 94 mature cards.

>> No.20993044

>>20993029
Only adding 20 a day. I might just be retarded.

>> No.20993063

>>20993035
Oh, I thought you were having problems with hard words. You'll probably never make it.

>> No.20993069

>>20993044
how do you study w/ anki? i recommend tagging cards by date they were introduced on and just re-reviewing em throughout the day. 5 minutes here 5 there.

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>>20993035
Check your animes. You probably learned a lot of words and readings as names and attacks. This is a Karui.
If you don't even recognise the kanji you need to do your Heisigs, that's what the book is for.

>> No.20993072

>>20993035
Oddly enough out of all the words I've struggled with, 軽い is still in the forefront of my mind despite being ez af. I just deleted the card out of frustration eventually and still forget the reading sometimes

>> No.20993073

>>20993063
Don't say that. It's hard to learn 20 new words a day as a complete beginner. They just don't stick as easily.

>> No.20993078

>>20992389
>say
>tell
>talk
>speak
>convey
>express
luv this language

>> No.20993080

>>20993063
I have the most trouble with words I haven't heard before or often.
>>20993069
I do it once a day and then all at once. Maybe your approach might be good. You mean just reviewing a few cards I've had already?
>>20993070
Maybe I really have to do RTK alongside this.

>> No.20993108

>>20993069
>>20993080
yea i dont find once per day is enough for it to stick. ive found anki lot more powerful after i started using it more like physical flash cards least for new cards. (also its funny how hard it makes this despite buying full hog into the skeuomorphic metaphor)

>> No.20993140

If Calvin struggles so hard with Japanese/Chinese but can manage to stay at uni does that mean uni is easier than learning Japanese/Chinese?

>> No.20993151

Depends on his prior education and what he is studying. I doubt he had moonrune language in school, but the school did prepare him for university.

>> No.20993173

Sometimes Jap translates into english words I don't even know. Is there something like jisho for J>NL?

>> No.20993182

>>20993140
i mean the goal of for-profit colleges is to keep u there and keep getting ur money so u do the math

>> No.20993207

>>20993151
He's doing accounting.

>> No.20993336

みみがかゆい

かいて

>> No.20993362
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20993362

Just sat down and marathoned every Nama-sensei video related even tangentially to Japanese, so I'm now the global authority on the subject of his lessons. I figure I should use this power to write an informed post on him.

First, his good points. Nama-sensei actually lived in Japan and spoke with Japanese people regularly, so he has a practical view of the language which is carried over to his lessons. He strongly emphasizes the necessity of using context to understand what's being said, for example, and in several videos he even shows himself speaking to Japanese people. His accent is embarrassingly bad and whatnot, but he's out there and he's got experience. So at the very least, he's not peddling bullshit, per se.

The entertainment value is also important to consider. He's a legit funny guy, and although I'm not sure how effective it is to draw Jesus on 十 while comparing it to the cross, it definitely keeps one's attention on Japanese. Even when being entertaining, though, he never forgets to emphasize the importance of work. "Write it 50 times in your notebook, bitch" isn't that effective for long-term retention and is antiquated, but it does instill a good work ethic. Do your work, you bitch.

Okay, now his bad points. Well. This is pretty major, so I'll just lay it out. Nama-sensei is bad at Japanese, and he's bad at the Japanese he does know, so his lessons often straddle the border between being lacking and being straight-up wrong, occasionally falling head-first into being wrong. The mistakes range from innocuous shit like writing 大きい as おうきい, but over time it really adds up. I think close to, if not all, of the example sentences he wrote himself were wrong or otherwise awkward. Two examples of such example sentences:

いまなにをしているですか。X 
いまなにをしているのですか。
あなたのCDをかいたいでもおかねがない。X
あなたのCDをかいたいけどおかねがない。

Of course, I'm not a native, so there's no telling what number of other mistakes I missed, but more than several stood out to me even as a gaijin.

Regardless of mistakes, however, the fundamental structure of his lessons isn't very conducive for effective learning. As you might have guessed from those example sentences, he doesn't introduce kanji in his lessons until the very end, after all the grammar lessons (except one). He spends a lot of time with romaji, then the rest of the time with kana. It's not very good. Kanji are dumped individually in what he called the "Daily Dump", of which there are 58, meaning he taught 58 kanji total (often saying to write out the readings 50 times, which is understandably bad). At the start of the dumps, he mentioned knowing 400 kanji total, which probably sounded impressive to him but to someone more informed about the writing system, well...

So. The lessons aren't reliable and they course is structured poorly in general. Could things get worse? Yes. He never finished. He taught the barest fundamentals of grammar, and the barest fundamentals of kanji, but neither ended up complete. He didn't even finish Katakana. So even disregarding everything else, it's just fundamentally true that nobody will learn Japanese from Nama-sensei. At best, they will get their start from him. I did, 7-some years ago. But you'll either leave early or be cockblocked very quickly whether you like it or not.

For this reason, barring all other problems, I would not recommend Nama-sensei. Even if they were the best lessons in the world, they're so incomplete as to be nothing more than a single uncomfortable stepping stone towards other resources. And alas, I can't ignore the other problems, so I can't recommend it even in that sense. You'll learn incorrect information, study incorrect example sentences, and just generally start Japanese off on the horribly wrong foot. Nama-sensei is good for a laugh, and watching a couple videos from him as motivation is fine. He's actually a cool guy with a lot of cool things to say, in particular I recommend his "How to pick up bitches" series since there's some actually good life advice in there. But in general, Nama-sensei should be avoided. Learn Japanese without him, and 7 years later, look back through his videos nostalgically, while laughing to yourself about the constant mistakes.

>> No.20993388

why did u write a giant wall of text about yt vids from over a decade ago posted on a yt channel called "bumnumba1"

who cares

>> No.20993399

I read it

>> No.20993400

Thank you for the subtext (You), which is worth two (You)s

>> No.20993407

thanks for the salty wish u gave me actual yous and read my stupid post post its worth infinite yous

>> No.20993420

>know all joyo kanji, plus a bunch of random obscure kanji
>know a ton of words, rarely need to look anything up
>still having trouble understanding sentences because of hiragana grammar shit that I can never decipher

does this get better if I just keep reading or is there a good guide or way to learn this stuff that isn't on the djt site? yes I've tried tae kim and shit never helped besides the basics, been learning for 1.5 years btw

>> No.20993426

10000 hours of eng subbed anime

>> No.20993428

>>20993420
>does this get better if I just keep reading
Yes, and it's the only way (aside from listening, though listening will be harder to learn from). Grammar is too complex to learn from anything but massive exposure. Read like 10 full VNs then come back.

>> No.20993429

>>20993362
good post anon

>> No.20993431

>>20993420
Try the book "read real japanese". It guides you through some short novels sentence by sentence and explains the grammar points.

>> No.20993455

>>20993431
i don't get why using this kind of thing is so rarely recommended
you don't even necessarily need the explanations (even though they're helpful), just utilizing shit that's available in both english and japanese is probably what gave me the biggest boost in terms of reading ability

>> No.20993460

>>20993455
Thinking in English is not ideal and J/E resources like that encourage framing the Japanese in English terms rather than teaching one to understand t he Japanese.

They're not bad, since you're still reading, but yeah.

>> No.20993481

>>20993362
There's nothing interesting about him or what he says. He's a meme. Fuck off.

>> No.20993492

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dql2DJCyz0I#t=25

>> No.20993504

40ぷん

聴解しよー
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d9Y73cxHjA

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>>20993481
Looks like somebody was too lazy to write their kana 50 fucking times.

>> No.20993525

>>20993460
someone who just starts out reading is going to think in terms of english nonetheless, and from my personal experience it's not actually something that happens to a significant degree
as long as you treat the japanese like a riddle with the answer being the meaning to be extracted, and only glance at the """solution""" if you're absolutely stuck, i think it's immensely helpful
much more efficient than being forced to continue to read on even though you didn't get it, in the hopes of coming across that grammar point or word usage again and understanding it next time, which just feels frustrating
it also feels fantastic to re-read a story like that in one go after you've dissected it, now being able to comprehend it entirely

>> No.20993528

クソジジイの話は聞きたくねーよ

>> No.20993532

What are you guys reading?

I just finished 消された一家 which is the most horrifying shit I have ever read.

>> No.20993533

if u treat japanese like a riddle itll stay a riddle

till u get tired of the bullshit u put urself through and just take it as it is >>20990526

>> No.20993538

>>20993533
>if u treat japanese like a riddle itll stay a riddle
that's just a platitude though

>> No.20993548

>>20993533
>if u treat japanese like a riddle itll stay a riddle
It really doesn't, you'll get better at solving the riddles until they practically cease to be riddles

>> No.20993549

theres no reason not to use english if its still helpful in making things comprehensible. the whole "dont use english ever!!!" thing is the ghost of khatzumoto haunting your ass

>> No.20993552

riddle me this then

wheres the mad nihongo tukais at

>> No.20993607

if i try to use a vn to help with listening then it takes longer to get through it

>> No.20993611

have u tried using a vn to enjoy both the audio and visual together as a whole

>> No.20993614

japanese isn't about enjoyment. it's a lifestyle

>> No.20993626

>>20989726
imagine the culture shock when they realize this exists everywhere and its actually nowhere that they belong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ8EAnN8suk

>> No.20993633

i'm so fucking glad i've seen these stories from nick and matt and ryan boundless so that i know japs suck ass. when i get bored of otaku media in 5 years i'll drop japanese accepting that i wasted time but not resenting any of it.

>> No.20993638

typical white man behavior walkin into japanese mans house with their shoes on and putting impossible expectations on them because they dont live in reality and think japanese are supposed to just wanna befriend you the disturbance

>> No.20993653

>>20993614
this is dumb

>> No.20993657

>>20993653
it's true japanese can't be fun

>> No.20993662

yomichan translates わけない as "there is no reason" but it often seems to just mean "not" or "no".

>> No.20993683

>>20993657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1szZIXmPcE

>> No.20993700

>>20993532
Reading the first volume of ダタリアンの書架. I must say it is not too difficult, but still looking up a lot of words of course. I've already seen the anime, so I'm also curious how the LNs are different. Maybe afterwards I'll read the untranslated mango.

>> No.20993752

>>20992387
2 hour video on how to use a dictionary.. no thanks.

>> No.20993768

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5egYG4paPB4
師匠から

>> No.20993778

>>20992387
>Matt you mispronounced bridge near 8 mins in and said chopsticks instead, the classic mistake! Oh my gah.

LOL

>> No.20993794

来る
Why is this fucking verb so irregular?

>> No.20993796

>Also, without being able to see the kanji, many definitions would be too dense for even natives to understand through audio alone.
Wait a sec. Japanese writing can be dense to the point it'd be difficult to parse if it were speech? And they can get away with it in writing because of kanji?

>> No.20993797

the same reason ur fuckin bowel movements are

>> No.20993816

>>20993796
They have no idea what they're talking about obviously.

>> No.20993821

i mean this is the #1 clue someone doesnt know what theyre talking about when they say the d word

https://streamable.com/yr6fm

>> No.20993823

海鷂魚

>> No.20993827

>>20993796
it's all chinks fault obviously

>> No.20993922

>>20989762
Yoga is offering tons of free stuff on youtube :0

>> No.20993947

>>20993922
yea like free ear aids

>> No.20993985

do i need a deck for grammar? I am doing the 2k/6k deck for vocabulary already. is srs unnecessary for grammar?

>> No.20993993

>>20993362
>in particular I recommend his "How to pick up bitches" series since there's some actually good life advice in there.

>you'll have to find out if they have time for your bullshit, and chances are they do because you're different, and you've never met them before
>so they might at least give you the time of the day
>but don't ask them for that
>cuz that's fucking lame
that line was actually funny
otherwise this dude's fucking insufferable

>> No.20994000

>>20993794
くる
こない
これる
これない
こられない

>> No.20994001

>>20993985
tae kim and dojg are solid decks to level up on, grammar is basically vocab but more useful

>> No.20994007

I'm actually enjoying matt's video about dictionary. 44min in and it's helping me by quite a lot

>> No.20994009

>>20994007
how?

>> No.20994012

>>20993985
you don't *need* it, try it and see if you think it helps
just stop doing it if you feel like it starts to piss you off

>> No.20994020

people who (seriously) insist that katakana is harder than kanji make me wanna kick their ass

>> No.20994024

if u insist any of it is hard ur a gay shitter whos first anime was re:zero

>> No.20994049

>>20994020
it is
fuck katakana

>> No.20994051

>>20993078
喋る is more like chat
語る is more like discuss

>> No.20994053

>>20994020
it kind of is

>> No.20994054

>>20993072
been there. 軽々 is what finally sunk it in.
i think it's hard to remember because there's so many simple words that sound like it, like 辛い and 暗い

>> No.20994067

>>20994054
I struggled with 辛い and 幸い for like 10 months.
Still easier than katakana.

>> No.20994073

>>20994051
i wasn't matching english meanings to the japanese verbs, the point is that both languages have tons of words to describe verbal communication

>> No.20994076
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20994076

どちらが良いですか

>> No.20994077

My favourite katakana is probably 力.

>> No.20994081

>>20993035
start reading manga asap. it will make the words come alive

>> No.20994085

>>20993035
軽い怪我

>> No.20994086

>>20994009
You need to bear with me that I'm yet quite the noob.
If you know everything he is talking about, of course it might sound dull.
But for me, I didn't know anything, so it was really nice
The search options of qolibri, the "how to use symbols", differences between dictionaries, motivation boost as I could understand the definitions (except for one new word here and there), I don't know, in a lot of ways.

But how do you think it's not helpful?

>> No.20994096

>>20994086
why would you need a separate dictionary utility when you have yomichan and google

>> No.20994099

>>20992387
https://youtu.be/D-AfT8XW63w

@ 25:58m he mispronounces 広義 twice. dunno how you can fuck up such an obvious reading. on mobile so too lazy to fix the time stamp. someone make a streamable

>> No.20994103

>>20994001
>>20994012
thanks, i tried dojg and it pissed me off, trying tae kim deck next

>> No.20994105

>>20994099
lol

>> No.20994110

>>20994053
>>20994067
*kicks your ass (softly)*
but yeah 辛い and 幸い are stupidly similar. i remembered it by saying 幸 is more pleasant than 辛 which is why 幸 has a "plus" at the top

>> No.20994111

>>20994099
you realize natives fuck up readings like this all the time right

>> No.20994114

>>20994099
duke kogo lmao

>> No.20994116

>>20994111
sorry native japanese person isnt gonna go yea kogo this sounds right

its definitely 古語 right

>> No.20994118

>>20994096
nah... nvm, man

>> No.20994119

>>20994099
is there even an instance where 義 is pronounced ご?
also my IME doesn't know 広義 for some reason

>> No.20994121

>>20994096
not him but qolibri is pretty based, it has better audio than anything, does 50+ dictionaries of every type imagineable at once, example sentences, all of the compound words that use the word you searched for, etc..
It just ups your game but I"m still not going to watch a 2 huor video on getting tips for it.

>> No.20994129

>>20994119
the reason its particularly damning is u should know 正義 and 義務 etc and never fuckin be that bad at that kanji if ur at all decent at japanese

>> No.20994134

that said its beautiful 2 watch yung matt 背伸びするing lol he shoulda just been that way from the start it woulda been fine

>> No.20994135

私は精薄者

>> No.20994136

>>20994121
i don't feel like i would ever need that. i like one simple definition that applies to the context i saw the word in, and then solidify it through more context.... not drowing in 50 definitions

i've never done anything like that when learning english. seems like extreme overkill

>> No.20994139

>>20994121
but is it really useful to dive so deeply into each word you're learning rather than spending the time getting lots of exposure to lots of words in lots of contexts through compelling input?

>> No.20994140

>>20994119
As far as I know 義 is a rock solid phonetic ギ, and if I know that a JSL cult leader definitely should know it.

>> No.20994150

>>20994136
>>20994139
You're both probably right, but it's been helpful for me since I don't read as much as I should. I do more anime to anki and get my sentences from qolibri.

>> No.20994156

>>20993460
for a beginner that doesn't matter.. english is all they have to go off of to understand the runespeak
for intermediate/advanced then yeah that makes sense but i think those kinds of resources aren't really meant for people at those levels

>> No.20994173

>>20994099
i didnt think i was gonna clip it but then i did

https://streamable.com/6hm1z

>> No.20994182

im still lmaoing at how much hes disrespecting the 皇后

>> No.20994195

LMAO wait 1:24:37 is a much better streamable

>> No.20994197

i wonder if feynman made some basic arithmetic mistakes here and there, and if he were still around would the internet be full of comments claiming he sucks at math and physics.

>> No.20994199

dangit im still not done lolling at the last one

>> No.20994210

well now im lolling at 2 things concurrently thhanks for that also really need this dudes input now >>20994020

>> No.20994211

>>20994077
mine is ヱ

>> No.20994228

>>20994197
we only do it cause matt has such a huge ego, feyman would just laugh it off but if matt saw someone else make the same mistake he'd be talking mad shit

>> No.20994292

>>20994228
>but if matt saw someone else make the same mistake he'd be talking mad shit
no he wouldn't.

>> No.20994294

>>20994197
nah whenever feynman started getting confused he'd go bust a nut in some coed freshman and return to his equations clear-headed

>> No.20994306

u gotta understand matt claims to have a high proficiency at japanese but now as hes actually having to come into contact with it to appease his cult followers and hes doing very long vids that he very much cant rehearse or otherwise fix his imperfections its very clear that hes not anywhere in that realm

behold 8 years of ajatt lol doesnt even know what a labrador retriever is or how to pronounce a kanji taught to toddlers in 義

>> No.20994311

>>20994292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCLzn9Wqew

>> No.20994312

>>20994311
lmfao it started playing here fsr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCLzn9Wqew#t=108 and i thought immediately of that vine or w/e lmao

>> No.20994320

like surely if he thinks his japanese is good enough 2 explain the dictionary he should know that ギ literally is the only onyomi for that kanji and every single kanji that uses it (except 礒 which has ガ as well as ギ)

to me it's on par with steves "temu ne"

>> No.20994321

>>20994311
https://streamable.com/q9ke3

>> No.20994327

i mean lets forget that hes not a master of the 義

how does he think the word hes saying is a word here that u say like whaT ??

>> No.20994333

the only explanation is that he thought it was 広語 or something but even then it wouldn't be こうごう

>> No.20994334

tfw were finally comin 4 matty boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t035_8aHY1Q

>> No.20994335

>>20994076
second video speaks so much sense dolly先生 rules

>> No.20994337

>>20994327
Make a youtube video roasting him
Steal his patreons

>> No.20994338

im also getting the feeling he reads djt cuz im sure he just discovered that qolibri feature of how to get to the 凡例 because i posted exactly how to do it a week ago

>> No.20994347

>>20994333
i mean its more damning if he thought it was 口語 cuz then he fucked up every single kanji and the pronunciation

>>20994337
i dont want em dude i was only gonna move on my own if he somehow made it to his 5k goal

>> No.20994349

Just did a quick check and there are ~25 words in Core6K containing a 義 component, and then some more where it's part of the example sentence. Someone tell Matt that this is a great deck for beginners to start with.

>> No.20994351

>>20994338
he definitely reads djt its been confirmed

>> No.20994353

>>20994351
nuke reads it and then reports back to him

>> No.20994360

Makes you think how fluent these cultists actually are. I remember that the Brit vs Japan guy admitted in his interview that he doesnt know what is the difference between onyomi and kunyomi.

>> No.20994366

>>20994312
>his conjugations are whack
>conjugations
Someone get the robot.

>> No.20994367

>>20994360
>onyomi and kunyomi
i doubt he meant that he doesn't know the difference, probably just that he doesn't know which one is named onyomi and which kunyomi

>> No.20994375

>>20994311
anon said if matt would attack someone for making the same mistake, not if someone makes a much worse decision to write a book on how to learn kanji without being able to read. but matt apologized for making the video anyway.

>> No.20994383

>>20994360
>he doesnt know what is the difference between onyomi and kunyomi.
to be fair neither of those things actually matter lol
if i see 疑問 and 疑う it doesn't help me in the slightest to know that ぎ is 音読み and うたが is 訓読み. i just need to know that one reading (usually) goes with 熟語 and another reading (usually) applies when the word has 送りがな

>> No.20994387

>>20994383
having a conceptual understanding of that does help when you encounter ambiguous cases or outliers though

>> No.20994394

>>20994338
no he's made references to that for many months

>> No.20994417

>>20994383
You need to know that most kanji have a semantic and a phonetic part and the phonetic part hints you of the onyomi, the chinese reading, of the kanji. If you understand this concept then youll never make silly mistakes like Matt did.

>> No.20994421

when you order something on japan amazon and get a 不在票 cause you were asleep fuck

>> No.20994422

>>20994417
The point that anon is making is that you don't need to know that the chinese reading is called onyomi

>> No.20994441

>>20994422
Thats just as silly as saying that you dont need to know what is hiragana and what is katakana

>> No.20994459

>>20994417
you mean like how 項 工 功 and 紅 are all read the same (usually) when they're in 熟語? yeah i get that but i don't see why one can't just remember that thats a thing without thinking about kun and on stuff?

>> No.20994464

>>20994422
ah someone who gets me
>>20994422
Thats just as silly as saying that you dont need to know what is hiragana and what is katakana
ehh not really

>> No.20994467

>>20994441
literally all you need to know is that there are two general types of readings, how is relevant what these are called?

>you dont need to know what is hiragana and what is katakana
i mean, you don't have to as long as you know that they are different writing systems, what they're generally used for and how to read them
then again you'll look like a retard because hiragana and katakana are words that actually come up in conversation every now and then. on the other hand, you can go years without explicitly talking about onyomi and kunyomi

>> No.20994468

>>20994422
But it's part of the definition. 音読み means sound reading, reading according to the sound components in the character. Being fluent without knowing this means you actively went out of your way to avoid spending five minutes on learning background information.

>> No.20994475

Just stop you cannot unbrainwash cultists. Their god is infallible

>> No.20994479

Fucking cultists. Don't engage with their stupid stupid defenses. You win cultists, and you don't need to know what hiragana and katakana are.

>> No.20994481

>>20994421
lmao not having ur own 郵便ロッカー in your apartment

>> No.20994484

>>20994468
that's just moving the goalpost though
>can you be fluent without knowing which reading is called onyomi and which is kunyomi?
the answer is yes
>*should* you know which one is called onyomi and which kunyomi
also yes, but you can't deny someone's fluency on the basis that they don't know

>> No.20994488

honestly by the time i actually read about kunyomi and onyomi it was like review to me anyway cuz it already made sense with how u read words

>> No.20994497
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why is this censored. I swear they do this all the time. im 99% sure its supposed to monde selection

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>>20994475
what god do you speak of? the only god i worship is this

>> No.20994506

i read about kunyomi/onyomi (incl. kan-on, go-on, to-on)/ateji/yutou-yomi & jyuubako-yomi/etc and i think it did help my overall understanding of the language but it's all pretty much things u dont need to know

>> No.20994507

>>20994475
>>20994479
It has nothing to do with being a cultist. Taking people's statement and presenting it in the worst way possible to "get them" is fucking lame
I don't even know the Brit vs Japan faggot but I'll grant him the benefit of the doubt, because "not knowing the difference" between onyomi and kunyomi, as anon presented his statement, would be critically retarded.
Not knowing what they're called on the other hand is not a big deal.

>> No.20994516

>>20994481
i do but it was 代金引換

>> No.20994519

>>20994383
it becomes pretty obvious which ones are on and which ones are kun you're going to learn either way.

>> No.20994521

>>20994497
pretty sure cause it's a trademark and they dont want to infringe on it or smth. like when they change the name of coke bottles of coco cola or something.

>> No.20994532

>>20994507
look, everyone! a smart person who can think for themselves! how refreshing

>> No.20994534

300 kanji in, vocab method. It's a complete fucking mess in my head since the last 100 kanji.
I can't even recall the old kanji that I used to know very very well.

>> No.20994541

>>20994534
are you reading actual books or manga

>> No.20994547

what's the "vocab method" though

>> No.20994549

>>20994534
But do you know the difference between onyomy and kunyomi?

>> No.20994555

>>20994534
Just to add. Because of this I don't even know the difference between じゅぎょう and そつぎょう as words anymore, neither the kanji.
I really REALLY hope RTK is gonna fix this mess in my brain. I'm dropping the kanji-by-vocab method right now.

>> No.20994557

>>20994547
im assuming learning kanji via vocab words and not individually with RTKとか

>> No.20994564

>>20994541
I am, yes. But with furigana always. I've read よつばと!、デスノート and a book called 雪の上のおじいさん。

>> No.20994567

>>20994555
It will. When you know deep in your brain that 卒 carries the meaning of "graduate" doing vocab will be a thousand times easier.

>> No.20994569

>>20994555
do you how to read
授業
卒業
that's what you're supposed to learn doing this, you're not supposed to be able to "recall" or write the kanji, if you want that you indeed should choose another method

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20994573

>>20994547
Here's a pic from my Genki.

>> No.20994575

Is there anyway to increase the size of the candidate on windows/google ime. It's so small and i'm near sighted HELP. It's driving me crazy

>> No.20994581

>>20994575
did you try googling? heres the first hit on google altho it's for chinese i imagine a similar system exists

https://www.pinyinjoe.com/faq/change-font-size-in-Taiwan-IME.htm

>> No.20994590

>>20994573
Sure but how are you studying this?
The way I would understand "vocab method" is:
flashcard with vocabulary word on the front
>卒業

reading and meaning on the back
>そつぎょう
>graduation

And you only practice front to back. Is that what you're doing?

>> No.20994602

>>20994590
I have the word in hiragana on a separate piece of paper and I just write it from memory....
It worked perfectly fine for the first 200 kanji...

>> No.20994606

>>20994581
I did man i'm not as retarded to ask a question i didn't research before. The answer i got was that it's impossible except if you install third party imes but they are mostly shit(as in don't work) .

>> No.20994619

>>20994602
if you really want to learn how to write kanji try RTK I guess
just know that it's not essential and you can always practice it later when you're better at Japanese, at which point it becomes easier anyways

>> No.20994631

I finally understand the chigai of 出る and 出す.
ijoyu

>> No.20994634

>>20994606
you could change the font size of your whole display in windows to 150% i think thats your only option

>> No.20994639

>>20994564
just a reminder that just cause somethng has furigana doesn't mean you need to always look at them. get into the habit of only looking at them if you need them or else you'll never solidify the kanji you're learning.

as for your reviews, try doing it the way >>20994590 described. kanji on front. use anki. if you really want to write, do so after doing that. you need to practice going from kanji word to pronunciation of word to meaning of word.

>> No.20994640

>>20994631
中に出して

>> No.20994656

did you guys know theres a real place called エロマンガ島

>> No.20994673

>>20994656
lol nice find

>> No.20994680

>>20994656
New life goal GET

>> No.20994681

>>20994555
RTK will fix it but I don't get why you need it to do it if you can just practice reading every day instead without relying on furigana. That's what I wish I had done instead of spending 3 months on RTK.

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>>20994656
lmao

>> No.20994687

>>20994681
How do you know reading would work if you did RTK?

>> No.20994688

>>20994682
no way lol

>> No.20994704

>>20994682
yoooo lmao

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