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Is kendo /jp/?
Could we have a kendo thread?

>> No.20915127

Don't mess with golf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v8qeDzD4fM

>> No.20915412

I have a lot of nostalgia for Kendo, had to drop it because it was too exigent, even if I was meeting the expectations of the Sensei I was too stressed, I'm too shy to go back. Now I only play with my swords when im alone

>> No.20915461
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>>20915412
I just started a few months ago because i moved and decided i wanted to try something different than punching things/
Its been fun, never been a fan of traditional bullcrap that karate tried to pull on me, but i stuck it out and this isn't that much in comparison.

luckily my kendo school is ran by a bunch of koreans so they're light on the tradition, more on hitting people with swords.

the only 2 issues I have with it is
1. they haven't really given me a timeline for when i should get "promoted" and get the bogu so I can start getting hit by people. I understand the need for learning basics, but when I learned fencing we got shoved straight into the sport aspect and were supposed to fail. but we at least got to fence. it would be nice if I could actually kendo.
I'm already hitting other people, so it feels awkward not letting them hit me back.

2. my feet are fucked up beyond repair now. does anyone know of a way to stop fucking up my feet? its not like I have delicate feet either, did sports all my life. but every time I go i get a blister about 1 inch in diameter, its really painful and its already started to build up.

>> No.20915831

>>>/asp/
>>>/sp/

>> No.20915850

>>20915831
I would have gone to /asp/ like 2-3 years ago, but now its just wrestling spam.

kendo is basically only practiced in nipland, so its basically /jp/

>> No.20916018

Jodan no kamae or bust. A samurai is worthless without victory.

>> No.20916072

I believe you shouldn't underestimate Aikido. Now I know you may be thinking, "Why take a weakling martial art like Aikido seriously when I am learning Kendo?" I can see why you would think that, how can a peaceful martial arts like Aikido beat a powerful one like Kendo?

Well, I have a story to share with you.

Years ago, I was a Kendoka, I thought I was the toughest kid in high school, I would pick fights, and kick ass. I was full of hate, until I picked a fight with the wrong dude. He was a Japanese exchange student, I still remember his name, Noboru Takeda.

I picked on him because of his hilarious and thick Japanese accent. I told him I was going to beat him so hard, he would go back to China(Yeah, I was a little racist prick.), he never said anything back, made me wanted to kick his ass even harder.

Well, here comes the fight. I threw men and do strikes, he dodged them like I was a mere white belt. I was tiring out and he knew, I saw the smirk on his face that made me raged hard. I put all my strength in one amazing tsuki, and he grabbed past it to my wrist and threw me over. My back smacked on the hard cement ground, and I was knocked out for who knows how long.

When I woke up I was in the school infirmary, I asked the nurse who brought me here, and you guessed it, Noboru Takeda. The next day, he wasn't at school, he was back in Japan, and I never got to thank him, for saving my life and showing me the light. I soon learned that he was an Aikidoka and have been practicing Aikido ever since to show my thanks to him.

>> No.20916136

>>20916072
Faggot.
>>20915850
Wow,you weren’t kidding. How the fuck does that even happen?

Like the whole board is nothing but fake pro wrestling shit-no kayaking,no ping pong just fuck...

>> No.20916153

>>20915850
/jp/ is "otaku culture", not "japanese culture". did you miss the memo?

>> No.20916186

>>20916136
No idea, it used to be one of my go to boards for shitposting. But forget about bjj memes, its literally just wrestling.

I don't even know how it happened.

>> No.20916212

>>20916153
Used to be Japan/general,circle of life. Back then you couldn’t even discuss eroge/VNs without touhou autists throwing a shitfit

>> No.20916249

>>20916136
>>20916186
Worked.

>> No.20916786

Kendo thread in /jp/ ? Sure, why the fuck not. It's not like I can discuss it on /asp/, that place is wrestling general and shuns all else. Kinda like when /n/ became bikes only and stopped discussing trains for like 4 years straight.
>>20916072
Is this some sort of next level pasta ? If not, reminder that aikido is for fags.
>>20915461
Well, I've just started wearing bogu (1 month or so) so hopefully what I say is still somewhat valuable :
1.Far as I know, there isn't really a time for promotion. What they did in my dojo was first have me learn proper footwork before I could wear uwagi and hakama, and in about 8 months after joining the place I started wearing bogu. Usually takes people 6 months, but I'm a poorfag and had to wait for someone who could lend me theirs for cheap. Oh, also, don't try to rush your way into bogu, you really need your fundamentals down because they're pretty restrictive, specially on the kote.

2.No, your feet aren't fucked up beyond repair. I have the feet of a peasant who walks the earth barefoot because of kendo, but within a week and a half of my dojo's December break I had babyfeet again. You might wanna pop any big fluid-filled blisters on your big toes though, if they just stay there they could get infected, that or they'll pop during practice and your toes will feel wet and awkward. I use a knife to cut the excess skin.
Oh, also eventually you stop getting blisters once you build up callous tissue. Trained today and didn't feel a thing.

>koreans
Hidoi as fuck. Every korean I've met through kendo was a point-seeking idiot who never cared about getting hit and would only try to pull ai-men and ai-kote instead of other waza. They take all the martial out of the martial art and make it more sportish than it already is, and they're a bunch of elitists who believe they get to wear special colours (Nobody wears white during championships because that usually means hierarchy in a dojo. Koreans do because they wanna be special.) and swear to hell and back they train kumdo and not kendo, but will throw a fit if you don't let them into your kendo championship. I really hope you're not training with those kinds of people.
>light on the tradition
Figured as much. That shit's important, you know. And besides, even the most traditional of kendo dojos aren't that tradition heavy compared to other martial arts and are very keen on getting to the "hitting people with sticks" part. If they removed even more tradition from that, I shudder to think what it looks like.

Much needed tl;dr : get your fundamentals right first, don't worry about your feet and maybe wrap them up if it's really bad and painful, and please check if you're not in a McDojo because God knows koreans love those.

>> No.20917466

>>20916786
The blisters pop themselves, but I'm kinda bleeding into my socks because of how deep they go.
Like I said, it's not like I have baby feet, I've done karate and martial arts and soccer for 15 years now, my feet are calloused.
Kendo is just super bad.

>koreans
It's not bad, they all know each other somehow. I think it's a church or something, and just wanted to do kendo after they moved to america so they made their own dojo to train at.
Nothing about it has been as bad as koreans people complain about and everything has been about solid fundamentals, which varies based on the teacher. Some are more technical than others.

>tradition is important
No it's not. It never is. Jap spiritual and heirarachy tradition bullshit is never important. The sword isn't gonna give a fuck if I dont bow to it before I pick it up.

>> No.20919226

>>20916786
What does white mean?

>> No.20919383

>>20919226
Nothing really. Uniform colors dont have a real meaning, most people just wear indigo because tradition.
Some koreans wear white for some reason, but I see women and some older people wear white all the time as well.

People just hate Korean kendoka because they treat kendo fully as a sport, and play it like a sport. As opposed to nips who treat it as a sport, but layer a bunch of tradition on top of it as an excuse to be autistic about things and rig things when it doesnt go their way.

>> No.20919419

>>20914999
Practiced it during high school, it was a ton of fun! I miss it a bit, don't miss kakari geiko tho

>> No.20919994

>>20919383
I heard the musashi-kai school has a thing with white cloth and black bogu.

>> No.20920012

>>20919994
Its kinda up to the school to do whatever they want, but by itself a white uniform doesn't really mean anything.

I know some its supposed to be like the top sensei or whatever is supposed to be the one who wears it but everyone else wears indigo, but i've literally never seen that.

>> No.20920286

>>20914999
Technically not kendo but, I did practice Korean kumdo for a year in Australia.
It was fun, good for exercising/staying fit and competing in the local/national competition was awesome. Met a lot of Japanese-Australians too.
One thing I'll say is that the Japanese (both who were born in Japan and Australia) are really good at this martial art. They'd wipe the floor with Koreans at any kyu/dan levels.

>> No.20920847

>>20917466
>bleeding in my socks
But how. I've gotten a bloody blister like once but it wasn't painful, though bleeding in one's socks ? Now that's a new one. The worst blisters I've got were mostly because I was doing bad form, so see it that your feet are parallel and straight, and that you're not locking your knees.
>No it's not. It never is.
But it literally is. It's the point of every budo out there, if you don't want tradition but want swordsmanship, go do HEMA. I've done it before and trust me, it's very fun and a great exercise, so that might be more to your taste.
>The sword isn't gonna give a fuck if I dont bow before I pick it up.
But the dude you refuse to bow to before or after a battle will. The dude who you effectivelly belittle when you commemorate your victory over him will. Tradition keeps in check things that would otherwise breed a toxic environment. Back when I did olympic fencing, the place where I trained was filled with pricks who would pull all sorts of shit and wash it down with "bruh it's just a sport", don't get me started on the tournaments. There were cool people, but it was full of pricks nonetheless. I think you should only remove tradition to a certain point, kinda like how BJJ does it.
>>20919226
Hierarchy. Usually the head instructor will be the only one wearing white during a class, but even they don't wear white during a tournament because technically you don't know anybody there and everybody is equal, so it's seen as quite arrogant to do it.
>>20919383
People hate korean kendoka because they'll pull all sorts of weird shit when fighting, and it's usually in order to hide the fact they're pretty bad at it under the banner of "but it's just a sport bruh". Kendo is still a martial art in the end, one with many rules that wouldn't make sense for real life swordsmanship, but a martial art nonetheless. You frequently see koreans absorb hits with their body, such as catching a kote with their arm, or absorbing a men with their shoulders. Technically invalidates a hit, but with a real sword it's an easy way to get yourself killed, so it's easy to see why this is frowned upon. The fact that you can receive hansoku if a shimpan catches you doing it kinda shows that kendo shouldn't be sportified more than it already is and that they still wanna keep a degree of realism.
Oh, that and they want to be special snowflakes who get to wear white and claim "original martial art donut steal" with kumdo, mostly because of WW2 resentment.

>> No.20920900

>>20920847
Tradition matters up to a certain point of not being an asshole. But many of the things kendo, and most martial arts do, is just a waste of time for traditions sake. And many of the disrespectful things are only disrespectful because of some random traditional meaning that really doesn't make sense anymore.
I see so many high level people, and even instructors who will act like they're actual samurai or something, and its cringe as fuck. Its a martial art, yes, but its also a sport. And even as a martial art you aren't actually doing it as a serious art, you're doing it for reasons outside the martial aspect.
Tradition forces some of the basic respect, but even MMA fighters will do basic glove touches as a sign of before fight respect. The amount of tradition that goes into kendo makes a lot of things silly just because its tradition and nobody can really change that.

>koreans pull weird shit
because it is a sport. and even taking the martial aspect things like absorbing a men with the shoulder or kote with the arm, yeah it would suck to do in reality, but its better than the alternative, which is why you don't get a point for it. The idea behind the points is that those are instant fatal strikes, if you're not hitting those points you didn't instantly kill them. So if they absorbed the blow and hit you with a solid strike, they won. They might be fucked up, but they won the sword fight.
Doing things like invalidating the hits is something that everyone plays into, its not special to koreans.

I mean I don't want kendo to become fencing, because that is complete trash of a sport, but at the same time it is just a sport.

>> No.20921055

>>20920900
>just a waste of time for traditions sake.
I actually wanna know which specific parts of tradition you seem to dislike so much in kendo. Outside of kata, kendo is one of the most tradition light martial arts as far as budo goes, and that's coming from someone that did karate and judo, and I know that other martial arts have a lot more in the way of dumb formalities, specially aikido. At most, there's reiho, which I guess does take time out of practice but it's like, what, 2 minutes at best. And then there's the sonkyo, I find it weird that you must squat before a fight, specially if you've already bowed down to you opponent, but it's such a simple thing that it doesn't even get in the way.
> yeah it would suck to do in reality, but its better than the alternative
No it wouldn't suck, it'd be almost as bad. Receiving a kote higher on the arm would still likely sever your limb off just as a regular kote would, the only reason kote is only allowed on the gauntlets is because of safety reasons. That, and receiving men with the shoulder, specially high on the shoulder and closer to the neck, as it most usual, is still an almost guaranteed kill. Remember, kesagiri is an actual thing in kenjutsu, even used to be allowed in kendo but isn't anymore for, again, safety. That's one gripe I have with kendo, though, I'd love to be able to hit the neck but if it means my training partner will have a huge bruise there and likely get injured big time, I might as well roll along with the rules.
>its not special to koreans
It's more prevalent, though. Doing cross-sparring with people from a kumdo dojang, it's pretty easy to notice they'll actively try to shrug off attacks with their bodyparts, which I later found out is because they actively train that way. Last kendo dojo that pulled this kind of shit in my country was kicked out of the federation and became a national disgrace. Then again, I won't say japanese don't do it, there are many career kendoka with the most atrocious of forms out there (Specially kote and sometimes the infamous helicopter dô), but they're not quite as common.

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>>20914999
Suddenly,the last boss appears.

>> No.20921141

>>20921101
The only real advantage nito fighters have is being more intimidating, really. I mean, yeah having a parrying weapon is very useful, but also requires a lot of skill that most fighters don't have. That said, this pic seems to have been taken in the Kyoto Embu Taikai, so the dude's probably got the skill.

>> No.20921499

>>20921101
Would be better with 2 shinai

>> No.20921522

>>20921055
Well honestly most things in kendo aren't that bad, its just a lot of small things. And once I got failed out of a test because some idiot put their shinai down in the wrong place, and I accidentally stepped over it without realizing it and this was "amazingly disrespectful, go sit in the audience"
something my teachers would never do, but some guest faggot decided was right.
so just a bit salty on that, the squatting thing bothers me too just cause i have slightly bad knees but its not a huge deal.

>other parts
I mean, yeah they're still bad, but with exception of things like a neck strike or chest pokes those are usually for protection sake. but like an upper arm, usually because of the angle its much harder to sever, it'll hugely gouge your arm, but more likely it'll be temporarily function. striking at the wrist is an instant disarm, and if you're disarmed you're dead.

and its odd that someone almost got kicked out for that, I've sparred with japanese students who came over temporarily (high school usually) and they always did the body shrugging type thing.
From a tradition standpoint I can see why its dumb, but once again its purely sport these days so people are going to abuse the rules.

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>>20921522
You stepped on, or over someone's sword ? Because if you stepped on it, that's really, really bad. If you stepped over ... well that's still bad, I kinda made the same mistake and was given a small lecture, but I had only been training for a month by that point. What are the details anyways ? Did the dude just leave his shinai on the floor by the court ? Honestly, he should've gotten a warning as well if he left it on the floor instead of leaning it against the wall, leaving your equipment out of the way is something we take very seriously over here.

> mean, yeah they're still bad, but with exception of things like a neck strike or chest pokes those are usually for protection sake.
Far as I know, neck strikes are prohibited for the sake of safety, too. It seems like the flaps of the men weren't enough to protect against them and people were getting injured left and right. Chest strikes being prohibitted is honestly bullshit though. They did it beecause most people who fought in jodan were too stupid to learn how to cover their bloody chest, and it's not like there isn't a waza to help them here (Uchi-otoshi waza seems useful against a thrust if you're in jodan.).

>and its odd that someone almost got kicked out for that
Well, it wasn't the ONLY reason, really, but "not teaching proper kendo" was one of the major reasons why. The other reason stated was because the dude running the dojo jewed out hard and made a big franchise out of it where he's wring out absurd amounts of money out of the students. The federation here where I live makes a big point out of non-profit, most dojo are encouraged to at the very most accept fees for maintenance. There's also the fact that the founder of this big dojo was rather jealous that his brother made it to hachidan (He was the first person not born in Japan to pass the test in Japan, and only one so far, at least as of 2017), and he became an insufferable cunt after that.

>I've sparred with japanese students who came over temporarily (high school usually) and they always did the body shrugging type thing
That's odd, my experience with japanese youngsters is that they flinch and defend too much. You know what it looks like, where you raise both hands, with the sword above your head and the tsuru pointing to the ground. I heard this was eventually banned from highschool kendo, both for safety reasons (Very easy to do an accidental tsuki or hit the clavicle doing that) and because the fights would get too stale. My experience with pretty much all japanese over 20, however, and I'll be honest, my dojo only gets visited by geezers, is very different. They make a big deal out of treating the shinai like a sword, I shudder to think in what ways they'd lash out if they found any of us doing suicidal moves. In fact, I remember one of them spending like 50 minutes talking about the difference between sutemi and being stupid.
>>20921499
Too unwieldy. You only need a side weapon big enough to parry, or to stab if you get so close that your sword is useless. Ask Youmu and her two swords, one short and one long.

>> No.20921863

>>20921826
the problem is your sternum can be broken very easily, and if it bounces off your chest it can easily slide into your neck. Its safer to just say don't do it, and either way its not a good striking point with a sword due to the bones anyways.

>> No.20921939

>>20921863
>the problem is your sternum can be broken very easily
Well, this much I know, there is this go-dan who used to teach where I train, he once told me about how he broke four ribs when his opponent did a failed tsuki attempt ... but I always assumed the guy probably hit really high, outside the protection of the dô. Honestly, I don't think a properly placed mune tsuki would be that dangerous, the protection on that area is plenty sturdy.
> its not a good striking point with a sword due to the bones anyways.
I dunno, a shinken oughta be able to pierce a sternum if even a shinai can break it. A stab to the heart oughta be as insta-kill as it gets as far as strikes to the torso go, too.

>> No.20921970

>>20921939
Others are still dangerous, but its the type thing chest strikes in general just open up way too much opportunity for easy injuries, and probably as well it puts too much stress on the shinai. Think when you get hit with a normal tsuki, your head doesn't like it and usually it ends there.
If someone is moving in and gets hit with a mune tsuki, their body is going to keep going forward. Which means there's a good chance your shinai will get fucked and if it breaks the splinters might be dangerous (? don't know about kendo, but i know fencers have gotten injured because of broken swords)

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>>20921970
I mean, shinai can actually bend a lot more than it seems. Pic related. Also, a tsuki is not awarded until you pull out of it, it's part of zanshin, it's why during kata, you're taught to do more of a poke instead of going full cue stick, so I guess it isn't THAT dangerous ... if the opponent does it right. I'll agree that there's too much space for a fuckup here, just put on my dô and remembered how small the mune protection actually is.
>don't know about kendo, but i know fencers have gotten injured because of broken swords
Oh, splinters absolutely are a problem in kendo. One dude in my dojo got stabbed in the shoulder during shiai after the other person's shinai had a piece splinter off. Wasn't even that big of a piece, either, it was probably just the force applied there that was enough to go through the dude's gi and his skin.

>> No.20922166

Can any of you do that thing where you cut bamboo in half without it falling apart yet?

>> No.20922225

>>20922166
Bamboo cutting is pretty uncommon. Not that it isn't done but usually you use tatami mats. Also what do you mean by that, you mean like vid related ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSQ4YPNhsxQ

>> No.20922282

What does the new noma dojo look like?

>> No.20922486

>>20922282
They actually rebuilt it ? Last I heard of it, Kodansha just gave everyone the finger and all they did was keep a piece of the facade around, or something like that.

>> No.20922563

>>20920900
Tradition matters up to the point its meant to teach you something, or preserve something important to the native culture.

Also getting hit in the shoulder would be horrible.

>> No.20922634

I've got a question for those anons who have dabbled in both fencing and kendo. Disregarding right of way and all that, do you think the two styles could potentially share techniques? I know Foil and Epee stuff would be out of the question, but Saber stuff I could see potentially working.

>> No.20923271

>>20922225
yeah

>> No.20924229

>>20922634
i would say no for the most part. I mean there's always a few small skills that are always useful, but pretty much everything is different, even the way you slash and the footwork is different.

>> No.20924546

Are nito ryu worth getting into?
I heard that you need strong arms (preferably bulked up like one of those gym guys) to handle two shinais.

>> No.20924928

>>20922486
http://www.noma-dojo.com/HP/page/sub6.html

>> No.20925115

Are high school kendo clubs split into boys and girls?

>> No.20925214

>>20924546
If you can find a good place that actually teaches it, sure, go for it. Though do be advised, it'll be just like other kamaes where they'll advise against it unless you've perfected your chudan before learning it. Maybe if you're 2nd or 3rd dan, who knows.

>> No.20925621

>>20925214
Any famous dojos in japan for nitoryu?

>> No.20925664

>>20914999
>>>/k/

>> No.20925779

>>20925621
I don't know much about the dojo in Japan, really. Only dude I've personally met and fought with that I know teaches nito is from Belgium.
>>20925664
We're not even discussing weapons you memey cunt.

>> No.20926781

>>20915461
I want to date a kendo girl so bad.

>> No.20926944

>>20926781
There's actually a bunch of really cute girls that go to my kendo school. Its kinda weird.

>> No.20927793

>>20926944
You mean Asian or white?

>> No.20930360

>>20927793
Asian
They're either all cute 16-26 year olds, or people who look like my mom and aunt.

>> No.20932611

>>20930360
Ask them if they want to see Eva 4.0 anon.

>> No.20934120

Where would one go online to find a top of the line bogu and shinai?

>> No.20934153

>>20934120
For what purpose?

>> No.20934178

>>20934153
For kendo, anon-sama.

>> No.20934220

>>20915831
I’d rather this than monstergirls,or the 20 different singing idol threads.

>> No.20934238

>>20934178
I mean if its just for yourself, amazon is probably fine for the shinai, if you find a set of bogu under $600 its probably shit.

>> No.20934252

Fencer here, how does kendo compare to fencing? Seems fairly similar to sabre, on the surface level at least.

>> No.20934339

>>20934252
Less targets, have to hit top of the head, side, wrist or throat. None of that gay fencing shit where you poke someone's toe and they die.

The sword is heavier, its not ridiculously heavy, but its not something you can just flick around like a fencing sword (though given I've only done epee so maybe saber's a lot heavier?), but you will be using it two handed so the way you strike is different.

The biggest difference that I like is that strikes do have to be solid. You have to essentially do a bunch of things when you strike to show that it was in fact a solid and intended hit. Its why you see them yell when they strike.

The gear is much more restrictive, or at least annoying to wear. Fencing felt like a halloween costume, kendo feels much more stiff i suppose, its harder to wear.

It follows closer to Martial Arts rules than fencing rules too, in terms of the sport. Fencing has very well defined rules and tools to measure who hit first and what counts, Kendo is much more up to the interpretation of the Judges.
Also being a douche in Kendo can get your entire team disqualified immediately because of delicate Japanese sensibilities.

>> No.20934413

>>20934339

The target areas are interesting, even foil/fleur has E N T I R E T O R S O as the target area, seems like all of that restrictive kendo gear is worn for good reason with those sorts of targets. Foil's priority system works well, but just from reading your statement on how solid strikes work, I like it a lot. I assume that parries and ripostes would function differently with harder strikes and heavier weapons, and the fight plays out more slowly and methodically until someone goes in for the attack, more like a martial art than fencing.

That sportsmanship rule should be a think in a lot of sports. I've heard stories of fencers being classic entitled pricks, and I'm just glad my team is a bunch of bros. Probably because we barely compete in anything.

>> No.20934435

>>20934413
The sportsmanship plays more into just the traditional focus kendo has. If a judge says something happened, it happened, don't argue.

People will be assholes in their own way, but when it comes to authority, their word is law.

>> No.20934443

>>20934339
There are also only 2 stances, chudan is the normal stance but some people use jodan stance.

>> No.20934497

>>20926944
https://exhentai.org/g/1164355/51d2f7eaa9/

This could be you anon.

>> No.20935147

>>20934238
I’m just asking if money was no object,what would you buy?

>> No.20935228

The dojo I'm in has begun focusing on shiai and the competitive side of it all for over three years now and I'm not enjoying it. I've hit a wall where I can't get my body to click in and do any ojiwaza successfully. Apparently I was too strict of a shimpan for my grade, too. I haven't picked up a shinai in 3 years but it just feels so satisfying to do kata numero uno with iaito's with someone who has a deep connection with you.

I wanted to provide that level of motodachi to others but nobody really cared and I'm quite sad about it. Everyone else has grown so much while I've stopped and it makes me happy to have seen my fellow kendoka grow. Sad to see the state of the ZNKR as it is, quite worrying with all the needless politics surrounding it.

I wish you all grow, have others pull you up when you're stuck and pull someone else up when they do. Please have a comfy day, and don't forget to practice being tachiai!

>> No.20937323

>>20935228
Are you in Japan?

You should relish the chance to compete in the all japan kendo tournament.

>> No.20938019

>>20937323
I'm not in Japan, sadly! While it would be an absolute pleasure to participate in the All Japan Kendo Champs, not only do I have a long way to go, I'm not financially capable of doing so for the time being, let alone a few years back when I was an aspiring shodan. The dojo has already sent national reps for an event which I can't remember, but their training regime is just something I can't handle - lots of brute forcing and just endless kakarigeiko with no focus on technique. I can't even do suriage men properly!

>> No.20938324

>>20935147
Please,I’m really lost. Is tozando the best?

>> No.20938460

>>20938019
How does one compete actually? Are there rules like you must live there or be a national?

>> No.20938495

>>20934120
Well you'll want it fitted so the best way is to go to a local retailer that imports from Japan if possible.

>> No.20938948

>>20938460
There's a huge signup thing, making sure the ZNKR recognizes your club ensuring that you're up to speed with all the rules and such. There's a certain fee with entries per person and per club. The club must be recognized by the head club of country and basically have a signoff making sure they agree that you're participating. Not sure if there's any rules to being a national since there's a lot of teams with imports - generally as long as they've trained with you for prolonged periods and are planning to stay. The American team had a few Japanese guys IIRC.

>> No.20939342

>>20934443
Not fully accurate, but chudan and jodan are typically the only ones that are useful under kendo rules. The kendo kata preserve other such as hasso and waki

>> No.20939641

>>20938948
I just assumed it was only open to nationals since you can find the championship on YouTube and it’s all Japanese names.

>> No.20940123

>>20934252
>how does kendo compare to fencing?
Very different. As the other anon said, your hits must be deliberate and strong, which is why you have to call the area you're striking as you do it.

They also take into account blade alignment, and your strike must be made with the mono-uchi, the final palm or so of the blade, which is supposedly the most effective cutting part of the sword. Of course, no electronic scoring and no flexible car-antenna-tier swords, so thank God you can't throw flicks. God, flicking is such a dumb concept. Oh, also, since the swords are somewhat rigid, there's a lot more emphasis on manipulating your opponent's blade to create openings, vid related is an example of it done exceptionally well :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYAwcJxauds

Also, there isn't really a rule out there for doubles, but generally if both fighters hit at the same time the shimpan won't award a point to either.
>>20934413
>seems like all of that restrictive kendo gear is worn for good reason with those sorts of targets.
Well, the thing about the armour is that it only protects the strike zones, and the strike zones are only where they are because much of modern kendo inherits a lot from Itto-ryu, a kenjutsu style that prioritizes ending a fight in as little blows as possible, preferably one. A hit to the head will cleave through it, instant kill. A stab to the throat leaves you dead on the ground bleeding. A cut all across the torso will have you picking up your guts on the floor. A hit to the wrist severs it, doesn't kill your enemy but certainly can finish a fight, also, they do teach you to try and go for the head after hitting the wrist, if you can. That's pretty different from foil fencing, since foil is supposed to be more like a smallsword duel. Your objective there is to poke your enemy and make him bleed a little in order to settle things, not cleave him in half.

> I assume that parries and ripostes would function differently
There isn't really a right of way rule in kendo, but parrying and riposte are still there, in a way. There's a whole category of techniques, called oji-waza, just focused on how to hit your opponent after a successful parry. They're really hard to counter-parry if your opponent pulls one off correctly, so effectively, he's kinda given right of way by the sole fact that while he's going for the retort, you still have to recover your sword. Vid related shows it done pretty well :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvKjGxEpnps
Most commonly people would go for the abdomen after doing the kaeshi part (Which is when you parry and slide your sword under the opponent's), but you can go for any strike zone, just depends on what you can do given the distances.

>> No.20940983

>>20938495
That might be hard,I’m in the southeast. Thanks though ;-;

>> No.20943531

>>20940123
Have you ever been in a traditional kendo dojo?

>> No.20943821

>>20943531
Why do you ask ? Also, I have never trained in Japan, so technically I can only say no.

>> No.20943976

http://bunbunmaru.com/wakaba/general/res/53815.html

It’s stressful trying to have this thread on /jp/ so I thought we could go to somewhere a little more yukkuri if you don’t mind.

>> No.20943999

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5a943ac557f9f

36:30-39:20 watch a big boobed gravure girl do her kata

>> No.20944045
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20944045

>>20943976
>>20943999
>bunbunmaru
While I am the self-entitled biggest Ayafag on the surface of our rock and autistically bump all Aya threads, I do not aprove whatever the fuck is going on with these posts. What a waste of trips, alas.

>> No.20944053

>>20944045
I’m just saying we might want to go to a slower board.

>> No.20945982

>>20926944
>>20926781
Wonder if kendo girls have strong muscles and tight omanko.

>> No.20949681

I wish I could kick everybody here butts

>> No.20952337

>>20949681
You're free to try, the door to the dojo is always open. In fact, most dojo I've found are open to anyone.

>> No.20956320

>>20914999
I miss kendo anime.

>> No.20956919

>>20956320
Such as?

>> No.20959670

>>20949681
come at me fag

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20959762

>>20956919
Just Kendo (sport) or sword fighting in general?

>> No.20963427

Unironically yes.

>> No.20964867

>>20959762
Kendo anime.

>> No.20966869

>>20963427
Who were you reply to?

>> No.20970023

>>20919226
The other anons pointed out hierarchy, and that's true, but it can also mean you're a member of the imperial guard. You can see people in white keiko-gi in things like police and army tournaments where imperial guards are usually invited to. I don't think there's such a thing as an imperial guard tournament though, but that'd be hella cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL_3vJuvkVg
And, case in point, the dude in white there is an imperial guard.

>> No.20974064

>>20959762
I mean, technically even SAO is "sword fighting anime", that's a pretty broad category.

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>>20919226
It varies, often nothing. There was a specific kendo dojo that was known for everyone wearing all white though, I can't remember which. When the guy in charge was asked why, he replied that he had encouraged his students to wear white in the hopes that it'd make them wash their training clothes more frequently.

>> No.20975992

>>20974134
That was Nakayama Hakudo.

>>20940123
The rules have as much to do with sportification, and what areas are the best for safely receiving strikes as the legacy of Itto ryu. The rules evolved over time. You'll see Itto ryu do cuts and stabs that would not be legal in any modern kendo context.

>> No.20979326

>>20975992
Not a bad idea.

>> No.20979642

もちろん。
けんどはとてもjp。

>> No.20980373

>>20979326
The white gi thing? I suppose so. Though Nakayama taught a lot more than kendo.

Here is a great article by a student of his lineage of kenjutsu:

https://kenshi247.net/blog/2011/02/14/a-lineage-all-but-forgotten-the-yushinkan-nakayama-hakudo/

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