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Does this look like a trustworthy sensei?

>>20931287
guess I'll keep my break going until you dissapear because I honestly can't be bothered

How much time will I save if I skip all the Rin scenes in HA?

>>20932851
No, she's looking for a special Gland that someone in her school is said to posess.

I don't understand.
The musics I have and the ones in the playlist on youtube are different. Do the one I got are a remix or something ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0knwEYRufQ&list=PLD6F98B363E6C92DC&index=5

This is the one I have : https://vocaroo.com/i/s1TyzfNVHqnm

Any ideas ?

>>20932862
I actually don't remember Rin having many at all. The only memorable one is the one with Zelretch's box, which lasts all 4 days.
So you won't miss much if you do.

>>20932886
Where is the zelretch box one? Is that in her room?

>>20932884
It's been like a decade but I'm pretty sure the mirror moon patch replaces the soundtrack with one from a CD that got released years later

>>20932896
I think so, yeah.

>>20932915
Alright thanks

>>20932884
I'm guessing you're using Tsukibako's soundtrack.

>>20932995
It should be on the 1st day at Tohsaka's mansion, to be specific.

Ciel is cute

CUTE!

>>20933099
She looks pretty hot here actually, baka arcueid

>>20933099
Yeah?

>>20933099
I want to kiss her thighs!

>>20933099
She is ugly and boring and also dumb

Thanks for your answers about the soundtrack.

I unironically felt sad for Roa at the end of Ciel route. He did nothing wrong.

>>20933213
Are you the same anon from yesterday who was only missing the Ciel route?
If so, enjoy the epilogue.

>>20933203
She's only 2/3

>>20933213
Akiha route wasn't very kind for SHIKI either.

How do you guys keep yourself from forgetting the plot of these various stories over the months and years?

>>20933236
Yes. Is the epilogue short ? I'm quite tired so I'm not sure I'll do it tonight.

Ciel route was totally enjoyable. I'm a moron. It was really nice to see Arc again.
And I have to say the love triangle at the very end is really funny. Looks like a romcom.

>>20933327
It is very short, about the same length as the prologue

>>20933152
Indirect kiss with Arc!

>>20933310
I revisit them all the time through discussions and people playing for the first time.
I actually haven't reread FSN or Tsukihime in their entirety once, and don't intend to until I can do so in Japanese.
For Kara no Kyoukai, I just get the urge to rewatch them every few months.

>>20933327

I actually think that Ciel's route is best experienced out of order. The near side routes are 90% the same, reading Ciel's immediately after Arc's becomes tedious when you realize that.

What a ride.

I didn't expect anything, and I received everything.
Sure, some things bugged me, it was overly dramatic at some points, but overall, what a good read it was. Nasu's writting is sure something.

I will need to think more in depth and for tonight, I'm still in a daze. Thanks for helping me through it, /tmg/.

>>20933931
Man, those final lines are impactful.
Thank you for sharing bits of your experience with us, anon. Glad we could join the ride.
I'm happy you liked it!

>>20933931
Tsukihime has such a dreamy feeling to it. Whereas Shirou finally manages to change himself as a person through sheer concentrated willpower in FSN's true ending, Shiki's struggle is more about holding on to who he is, taking it easy and enjoying life as it comes. Two very different messages from two protagonists who are complete polar opposites in many ways. Both works complement each other well.

How is this possible?

Why don't you move on?
Why can't you let go?
Why do you insist on staying here when you don't like being here anymore?
You'd be happier, you'd be free, so why?

>>20934107
Don't think about it.
God I wish I had 2 Sakuras at my house.

>>20934114
Specifically one that never left my bedroom and one that I could go out with and such

>>20934109
I literally just got here, I don't know what issue you're projecting here but I'd recommend maybe finding another series to delve into?

>>20934109
Because I'm not letting go of a fictional character.

>>20934117
Now there's a good idea, anon.
I like your train of thought.

>>20934135
Pic related I assume?

>>20934140
Well, obvsiouly.

Drunk Akiha

>>20934166
Perfect.
It's the Remake design, I hope they do that scene justice.

>>20934109
I've moved on for the most part. I honestly don't care if we never get any of the things that Nasu promised.

Type-Moon died 3 years ago

Just reposting in case the TL anon didn't see it.
>>20920991
I'm working on mahoyo now. I haven't posted any updates because I was planning on doing so only after I make significant progress. I haven't done much for the time. But I'm working on it.

>>20934264
He already replied to you, anon >>20932854

>>20934166
I saw that earlier and I genuinely thought it was Homura until now that I saw your post.

>>20934288
You weren't the only one. Actually most people I've run across see nuAkiha (without prior knowledge on the character) and assume it's Homura. Hell, I've even seen it mistagged on the boorus a few times.

whoever made silent self-insert protagonists the standard for mobile games, while also thinking it would be a good idea to make them light-vns will be haunted by my soul once I pass

>>20934441
If the protagonists weren't self-inserts then they probably wouldn't have been nearly as popular. People love to spend hours and tons of money on a waifu jpg just so they get that valentine's day message from them.

does tohsaka rin masturbate?

>>20934661
Yes, but only with her asshole

>>20934671
No wonder she smells awful

>>20934671
Hot

>>20934660
This is wrong on so many levels. There are whales that NP5 every servant in F/GO for no reason, including males. Why would a self insert autist care about anyone else besides maxing their waifu?

>>20934107
BB turned up early for shits & giggles I suppose.

>>20934441
At that point you might as well go back further and curse whoever came up with silent protagonists in general.

>>20932570
what would mordred be like in bed?

>>20934784
Would swear a lot and probably fart inappropriately at some point.

>>20934784
Mordred seems like the type of girl who wants you to hit her.

Is the Melty fanbase bigger than the original Tsukihime fanbase at this point? I was talking to a friend about how KnK had surpassed Tsuki in popularity despite the latter being the OG success, and he brought up how there was potentially enough French Bread/UNIEL/FGCfags that play Melty but never played the VN to outnumber the VNfags. Blows my mind if this is true, would be like GO beating it's VN in popularity but on a smaller scale.

>>20934857
It has been for many years I think. Not that I hold any ill will against people who just like Melty as a fighting game, because it's fucking great and perfectly enjoyable as that. I also know a bunch of people started off with MB and got interested in the characters, which lead to them reading Tsukihime.
I wouldn't say it's like GO, because to me everything about that game is repulsive and I don't understand how anyone would put themselves through that if not for being a prior TM fan.

>>20932570
Eternal reminder to read the catharsis of truth bombs.
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7876-%E6%98%87%E8%8F%AF%E6%BD%9C%E7%86%B1-(Latent-Heat-of-Sublimation)-FGO-Lemon-Hysterical-Screed

>>20934857
I wouldn't find it that surprising, I mean it was in arcades and even made it to EVO one year. Ease of access leads to a greater number of people knowing about it.

>>20934857
>KnK beating Tsukihime
Turns out having an anime adaptation does wonders
Mahoyo adaptation when, or has that ship sailed

>>20934923
Why would an unfinished work be adapted?

>>20934894
Why do you guys keep bringing it up if you don't wanna talk about it.

>>20934923
Well Zero got an anime adaption years after its release, so there's always hope.

>>20934943
"We" didn't start it, it was reactionary.

>>20934923
Mahoyo shouldn't be adapted, period.
I'm stubborn, it should at least be finished.
And while an adaptation would do wonders for fan engagement, it would go against why Nasu made it in the first place, that I agree with.

>>20934109
It's hard to move on when the Type-Moon I knew isn't there anymore. If type-moon simply stopped making things, that would have been the end of it. But they kept on making stuff that they really want fans to accept as part of the franchise and became unable to die properly in my mind.

>>20934757
To be fair, that trope kind of started out of necessity.

>>20934441
>Implying Mash isn't the true protagonist of FGO.

>>20934943
Because they are obsessed whiny man children. Do you expect them to be sensible?

>>20935330
Considering she is an anthropomorphised wooden plank, that sounds about right for that kind of game.

>>20935382
>anthropomorphised wooden plank
But she's not flat.

>>20935393
No, but as a character she is.
Lead heroines are typically not flat anyway.

>>20935395
>No, but as a character she is.
Mweh, opinions.

>Lead heroines are typically not flat anyway.
That's changing though.

>>20934857
Melty was the cancer of Tsukihime of the early days. Including the flanderization of the characters to the point they never got portrayed the same ever again specially Kohaku.

>>20935432
To be fair, I don't think there was much they could have done with her character that wasn't done in Tsukihime. If they wanted to keep her around, they needed to reinvent her somewhat.

>>20934441
Let the good adaptions fix that.

>>20935382
She's fine when she's not playing clingy jealous girl.

>>20935437
Indeed.

>>20935446
Cockblocking Mash is best Mash though. And at least she didn't stop Marie from kissing you.

>>20935437
Adaptations like that do not change the general image though, the source has the colossal popularity.

>>20935468
>the source has the colossal popularity.
Honestly. I think the "Learning from" version of the MC is probably more well liked than the actual canon MC.

>>20935437
FGO x CCC collab and Shinjuku are pretty good too. I like CCC manga's artstyle

>>20935471
That took off early and got heavily canonized.
Basically everyone knows both.

>>20935432
>the Kohaku's original character hasn't been used in like 17 years
At least in the case of Shiki, though, the retcon was an improvement

Touko in the lastest Case Files manga chapter

Now that I read Tsukihime, should I watch the anime ?

>>20935574
That artist still has questionable traits.
Like, that's a mans face.

>>20935616
Reines looks pretty good in the manga though

>>20935609
No, but you should read the manga. It's approved by Nasu, if that matters to you at all.

>>20935609
There is no Tsukihime anime.

>>20935437
Adaptations won't change shit, the source material is what should always be looked back to. Trying to "fix" certain aspects of FGO only makes it more obvious how much of it doesn't hold up as a halfway decent story, especially not outside the gachatrash format.
FGO is awful, and will always remain awful.

>>20935574
Man it fucking sucks they're not using this case for the anime.

>>20936432
Nah. Rail Zeppelin has a better story than this case.

>>20936471
Without being able to read them, when you tell me there's a case with Touko, and a case with Wallachia, and then this one just has a GO and Apocrypha character and even uses a Servant.... That's pretty depressing.

>>20936495
Rail Zeppelin has DAAs. Also another member from the Holy Church, more info about Mystic Eyes and the QTL stuff,...
I think you will enjoy it, anon

>>20936522
What DAAs does it have? From what I heard, only Rita Rozay-en is mentioned?
Still, I suppose I am looking forward to the Church and Mystic Eyes stuff, thanks for the reassurance.

>>20936660
>What DAAs does it have?
Rita Rozay-en and the Forest of Einnashe.
Also seeing another El-Melloi + wheelchair combo and Waver with his friend will be fun

>>20936803
Ah fuck, if those actually appear then I'm pretty damn excited.
Still, it's so disappointing that it's not Nasu himself exploring this stuff in tge Tsukihime universe. And if he did try to use this lore, it'd probably be wasted on a garbage story/game like everything in GO.
I guess Case Files is the best we can hope for.

I was just thinking while playing HA, couldn't EMIYA use his projection magic to create money? In that case, they'd never have to work a day in their lives. Though since both of them are workaholics they'd obviously do it anyways.

>>20935468
>>20936411
But they do? Shiki was shit in Tsukihime, a soulless self-insert with barely any recognizable traits which mostly changed and shifted from route to route to carry on the readers' immersion. The manga salvaged his character and is recognized by Nasu as superior to the VN for a reason.
Guda has the same problem, and ironically they have some similar traits (the zest and seal to live is their consistent trait on both cases). It's all a matter of portrayal, allowing the mc to have thoughts, agency, doubts, dialogue, discernable actions (which sometimes they do but not always vs the heroine/Servant you wanna shill).

It helps immensely as long as the end product isn't the nice guy generic harem protagonist which is a plague in FGO adaptations too.

>halfaway decent story
FGO has a better story than most Nasu's works though? Or are you going to tell me Tsukihime "plot" is good? Of course not, the execution (aside of Tohno being a big nothing in the VN) was good. FGO has a great plot, story, and concepts behind it and is only held down by the bland self-insert and the format. Once removed from those constraints it could be a great time-traveling/world-hoping time adventure with a colorful cast. You're just biased because waaaah muh small town urban story which aren't inherently superior to anything.

>>20935512
Guda hasn't appeared a lot there yet to make a conclusion about their personality.

>>20936886
There's a scene in HA where Rin talks about counterfeiting projected weapons for money.
Money would be quickly detected, since all the stuff he projects that is not swords is weak quality shit. For the weapons, the issue would be if the Association caught wind of it.

>>20937068
Weak quality stuff still sell, and if you produce it for free it's really efficient

>>20937044
/vg/ please, why are you even here.
Read the OP next time, you're not gonna find many people here who agree with your stance that FGO is actually great and just being held back by the medium. The plot, setting, and most of the characters are terrible all around, it's just the lore ideas that are being held back (not just by the medium, but by the shitty story they're being wasted on).
You're also not gonna find anyone who thinks Shiki was ever anywhere near as bland, lacking in growth, and as much of an obvious self-insert as Gudashit. There's plenty of dissonant moments in Tsukihime alone where you question what the fuck the character you're playing as is doing/thinking. He had proper narration, inner thoughts, and real dialogue choices.
Again, last thread was enough, stop trying to start the same old arguments that you know are gonna lead nowhere. Not replying to you anymore.

>>20937085
I get the idea that non-sword objects are just useless when projected by them. They're hollow, and would probably disappear before long.

>>20937044
the FGO plot is so garbage they literally can't even animate it without skipping the first 5 chapters.

>>20937128
Just want to react to your opinion about Shiki.
I don't really know what to think about him. I wouldn't say he was bland, far from that. He had a real personnality through the vn, he had qualities and flaws.
That being said, I would agree on the fact he looks a little impersonal, devoid of real goals, desires.
His character is great because he's mirroring his emotions, questioning, his way of thinking, his pain, etc, to the reader. It adds a strong personnality to Tsukihime because we are so close to every thought he has.

In the end, I can't stop to think he's more of a media than a real human being. I didn't really feel close to him, nor I felt real connections to his character.

>>20937322
I can agree with that, it's a case where Nasu maybe didn't know what he really wanted to do with the MC, or he didn't want Shiki to take the central role from the girls (which totally does happen in Fate/stay night, and IMO as a result, that game has better males than females).
But he did want Shiki to feel stuff, to emote a lot, to have his own wishes and thoughts about the other characters, and those things do come across. The Eclipse scene also shows a more subdued character growth that he went through.

>>20937068
Maybe he is poor at it, but Archer can fully project a 203 000 yen fishing equipment, which is pretty insane.

>>20937586
True, but I was always willing to let that scene go as just comedy with no lore implications. Or maybe Archer can see a fishing rod as a "sword".

>>20937044
I completely disagree with you're assessment of Shiki. But I do like the fact that you are willing to call out the anti-FGO crowd that infects this thread on their complete bullshit.

>>20937322
>I would agree on the fact he looks a little impersonal, devoid of real goals, desires.
Isn't that kind of the point though? Shiki just enjoys being alive enough that he doesn't really need goals or desires to be happy. Just being alive is enough of a reason for him to be happy. It's something that really comes out in the first route, but is a recurring thing in most of the rest.

>>20937599
Why is Archer beating up his adoptive dad?

>>20937653
Because he's a dumb edgy autist who unironically believes in utilitarianism and tried to get his kid killed by teaching him his magic

>>20937681
I mean, he still raised him though and saved him at his lowest point. I get that he would be somewhat regretful of the promise he made, but you think he would blame himself rather than his dad.

>>20937694
Archer doesn't hold people like that in high regard, even if his life was saved because of it.

I NEED MORE DAAs

>>20937044
Shiki changed massively in KT and even more so in Melty. The manga merely adopted that change. So, no, it wasn't an adaption.

>>20937744
That's just an excuse he tells himself though. In the Archer vs Shirou fight he admits to himself that he still does admire Kiritsugu and the ideal of a hero deep down inside, despite everything he has gone through.

>>20937830
Well regardless of that, if he found kiritsugu in one of his worlds he would definitely kill him as that would terminate heroic spirit Emiya's existence which is still his ultimate goal.

>>20937845
>as that would terminate heroic spirit Emiya's existence which is still his ultimate goal.
Don't be a brainlet, anon. That would not work due to alternate universes, and he admits it in UBW himself that that's nothing but an excuse, he knows he can't be saved and is just lashing out at Shirou.

>>20937845
Would that even work though? In FSN they say that even if Archer killed Shirou, the Heroic Spirit Emiya would still exist.

>>20937128
Shiki is bland, boring and uninspired self-insert that only got a characterization later on.

>>20937809
See above, you acknowledge he wasn't a character in Tsukihime which is my original point? And the adaptation of work must indeed improve and expand on the weakness of the format and the writing. Only shitty ones copy the work 1:1 as if it was flawless in my opinion.

>>20937186
No, the FGO plot is one of the strongest Nasu has thought about if not the strongest. The execution is bad, please undrstand the difference. Tsukihime has a barebones plot (barely pulled together) but has a good execution for the most part.

And they just adapted the most popular/voted chapters? It's got nothing to do with "skipping". Even the outline of Septem has more plot than let's say Mahoyo? Perhaps if you weren't so overdefensive and blind you'll learn to differentiate the issues with each work.

>>20937800
Have this stand in for Altrouge.

>>20937944
I really hope that wasn't supposed to be Altrouge because jesus fucking christ how boring

>>20937927
She's not that fat

>>20937954
Nah, she's a fatty.
Her bottom definitely stands out.

>>20937955
Isn't it pure speculation that it was Altrouge? Probably just some maid girl that Takeuchi drew.
Would be funny if she appeared in the Remake and it really was her, but she looked considerably different / more intimidating as a vampire.

>>20937905
>which is my original point?
Your first sentence was
>But they do?
In response that "adaptions won't change shit." KT and Melty weren't adaptions of the original Tsukihime. That's where the majority of the changes to Shiki's original character were held, and the manga took those character changes from there.

I think people give Tsukihime a pass and/or have a different interpretations behind the intents of Shiki's original character mostly because it was an earlier work of Nasu's and some gaffes and/or weird characterizations are to be expected. When it comes to things like Extra and FGO people are harsher because they they came much later, and people begin to expect more refinement from a company that has been in the industry for so long. With FGO, though, the self insertion - unlike with Extra - cannot be said to be utilized within the story itself to any respectable degree. At least with Extra there was an in-story explanation for why Hakuno was such a bland, boring character. With FGO there it's only for the purposes of a power fantasy and appealing to the lowest demographic possible. It's great that an adaption of the work is moving to make improvements in that area. Maybe by FGO 2 or 3 they'll finally put it into the mainline work.

>>20937905
they're the most popular because the previous 5 chapters are trash and not even writen by nasu. your septem comment just shows how delusional you are.

the only chapter people make more fun of than the first 5 chapters of FGO is agartha.

>>20937955
If she does spend most of her time as a powerless fourteen-year-old then it's fine, just needs better clothes.

I always pictured Altrouge as a crazy fucker with some of her sister's hair (that she stole) mixed with her own

>>20938075
People give Tsukihime the pass because of nostalgia and nothing more. That "old is good, new is bad" fucked up mentality that is the hallmark of autism.

>>20938109
No? They are decided by voting your favorites and those favorite chapters got animated decided by also the best format chosen in survey. You're reading too much into it.

How is delusional? You've done nothing but insult and attack, and are unable to articulate a legitimate argument than "i-it's shit because is not Nasu" as if Nasu isn't capable to write shit or not so popular Fate works himself. He has all the Extra franchise to show us this. I reiterate the plot outline of Septem (which was written by Nasu, by the way, all Part 1 outline is by him) is fine and has a lot of interesting merits: the idea of a perfect Roman Empire that is unified by Romulus and someone like Ceasar that would not fall or decay like Nero's which was the ruin of the first dynasty and started the process, with anti Imperial or Anti Roman Servants like Boudica, Spartacus or Jin Ke Servants forced to work with the present Emperor as a lesser or two evils because is what history states had weight and a lot of potentially interesting issues to address. Far more than stories about two sisters rivalry, for example, and their circle of friends caught into it. But the execution of Septem was absolutely dogshit, and a lot of it was due to the nature of the format of the story and that the writers had a word limit (which got broken in America chapter) and no idea how to write for the format.

Do you see me denying Septem is badly written and executed? No. But the outline story that Nasu wrote was pretty interesting, a good manga adaptation would easily salvage it.

>>20937963
She's fine, she clocked in at 125 lbs based off HA and rider was dumbfounded that her waist was left slim

>>20938190
>the pass because of nostalgia and nothing more
I'm plenty critical of Tsukihime and I have seen many others share my sentiments. It has many, many issues. But it also does a lot of things that I greatly enjoy that no other TM work really nails - I accept its flaws and it successes. Stop attacking a strawman you fabricated.
>That "old is good, new is bad" fucked up mentality that is the hallmark of autism.
Most people here enjoy TM products up to FGO, though. It has nothing to do with old vs new.

>>20938212
Nasu is capable of making and writing main characters that date older than Tsukihime. I'm not "attacking" it, I'm criticizing the defense of Tohno there as a double standard, and he could be fixed later.

>Most people here enjoy TM products up to FGO, though. It has nothing to do with old vs new.
Which is indeed bias when Extra franchise is far worse than FGO.

>>20938222
>Nasu is capable of making and writing main characters that date older than Tsukihime.
wot
>Which is indeed bias when Extra franchise is far worse than FGO.
What bias? Extra isn't very old at all and there are still contributions being made towards it. We just had an anime adaption last year. The original Extra is bad, sure, but CCC is plenty fine. Have you read it?

Imagine valuing some grand scale plot concept over the characters within it, and trying to salvage it with "better execution" instead of hoping Nasu moves on to something better.
Imagine not understanding that F/SN and Tsukihime were amazing because they are charage and that is Nasu's strength, along with their setting, not because of their fucking plot.
Imagine comparing the most barebones, blank self-insert in what is supposed to be Nasu's huge new project, to his first attempt at a VN protagonist, that even still had a ton of memorable scenes and distinguishing traits.
Imagine believing that Extra and Extra CCC, actual finished, self-contained Nasu works, are somehow worse than the huge trainwreck gacha mess that ruined the fanbase and the Fate franchise for good.

>>20938251
>CCC is plenty fine
It really isn't at all. I have read it. Have you? Extra is a badly written SAO tier clone of FSN and CCC is nothing but a dumpster on fire where Nasu wrote about his wank and fetishes fantasies called it a "story" and sold it to the none the wiser fanbase. Extella is a bare minimum improvement of all this but once again feels like a weak isekai LN.

>Extra contributions
It's a cancer that never ends. Your problem with FGO is that is one of the new products that became popular and sucessful over the old traditional ones. That's exactly why you all lashout because is taking their spot and became a bogeyman. But FGO doesn't have a million of games and Nasu involved on remaking it over and over and wasting time on it because nobody simply cares about Extra. Not the old fanbase (did we forget how many old artists of TM ridiculed CCC and the Sakura clones and Kiara? It was a joke) or the new fans. But because is precisely not very popular you think is harmless, but Nasu's wasted more of his time in this dead end that most people don't care about when he could have used that on Mahoyo 2 or Tsukihime remake. I don't begrudge him FGO because is new, popular and actually fairly original as plot goes, but Extra is awful and a time waster. And unlike FGO, we don't know when it'll end.

>>20938274
Imagine being so butthurt that believe your subjective opinions are facts. Imagine thinking CCC was well received among Japanese TM fanbase and not made the butt of jokes for years and years. Did you forget how hard Crazy Clover Club and all the Tsukihime artists mocked it? Nasu doesn't dare to address the criticism and fallout CCC got and you got tricked by BL into thinking TM fans liked it based on nothing but a single guy opinion.

>>20938294
>And unlike FGO, we don't know when it'll end.
You are fucking deluded. FGO will continue existing past the main story ending, and Nasu will move on to write a sequel (likely another mobage) WITH THE SAME FOCUS ON SERVANTS, with the same kind of self-insert shit, with the same trashy setting, with the same waste of cool lore.
Sometimes people here do abuse FGO as a scapegoat, but holy fuck you are deluded if you don't understand how much more focus FGO has been getting,and will continue to get compared to Extra, as it drains Nasu and everyone else's time, effort, and ideas.
Fuck off to /vg/ already where you can cry about Extra, and how much more precious and special FGO is, and how it's totally not a soulless cashgrab that takes everything wrong Extra did to an extreme.

>>20938294
>Your problem with FGO is that is one of the new products that became popular and sucessful over the old traditional ones
Extra was plenty popular and was a departure from tradition as well. CCC sold over 300k units which was quite good.
>Imagine thinking CCC was well received among Japanese TM fanbase and not made the butt of jokes for years and years.
Even if that were true, how is this relevant? Aside from which, it's well rated overall. Seems to average around the 80s for a lot of people.

>>20938317
>It'll continue
You can't prove that. For now is just speculation while Nasu has said when it'll end. You know what doesn't have an endgame date? Extella.

FGO is a step up from Extra, what are you even talking about? In terms of plot, original cast and all (because basically 90% of Extra main 'human' Masters were fucking clones and nostalgia reference to FGO and the ones who weren't, weren't relevant in comparison to Rin clone or Shinji clone or the Sakura clone - The Pseudo Servant stuff is bad enough but trying to pass those as "original characters" is a joke).

>>20937905
>>20938190
>>20938222
>>20938251
>>20938294
Moving goalposts, strawmen, ad hominems, appeals to authority, appeals to popularity. Wew lad I haven't seen this many logical fallacies from one person in a long time

>>20938337
>CCC sold over 300k units which was quite good.
Where did you even pulled those numbers? These are the official numbers you can track about sales reported from the stores that appear in rankings:
Extra: 72,170
CCC: 72,883
Extella: 140,375
Extella Link: 116,803.
Only together all the games sell over 300k.

>>20938294
I really wonder where the opinion that CCC is a masterpiece came from. I don't like the setting at all, the first half of the game is filled with pointless filler and the gameplay is dogshit.

I guess it does a decent enough job with the sakuras, but heavens feel exists so whats the point? not to mention

>kiara

>>20938342
EXTELLA ALREADY CAME OUT. FGO IS STILL ONGOING.
There is a sequel planned to Link, just like Nasu plans a continuation of FGO in some form, both are confirmed, both are cancer, Fate franchise is fucked and has been for years, what else is new?
Only difference is the FGO continuation will continue appealing to braindead FGOfags, who want more Servant shit and more self-inserting, while Extella will appeal to braindead musoufags.

>plot
It's retarded time travel shit that lacks any of the appeal Type-Moon ever had. NO ONE ever got into Nasu for sci-fi bullshit. Servants are badly utilized and completely unbalanced because they make money as opposed to normal characters

>original cast
Garbage. Literally all original Servants suck shit, Roman is a good character, Mashu is average but quite bland for a main heroine. The Crypters are the only honest attempt at decent characters besides those 2 since the start of the game.

> basically 90% of Extra main 'human' Masters were fucking clones and nostalgia reference to FGO
What the fuck are you talking about. The only non-original characters in Extra were the returning ones, NPCs, Rin, Shinji and Emiya. Alice, for instance is a parallel to Illya, and Julius is a parallel to Soichirou, but their characters are no more alike than Nasu's usual re-used archetypes.

> The Pseudo Servant stuff is bad enough
It's not "bad enough", it's probably the worst thing to happen to Servants as a result of GO trash.

Should I play KT now I've finished Tsukihime ? Is it worth it ?
I could jump directly for F/S anyway.

>>20938360
I got the number from the visual novel thread forever ago, I don't know where someone got it but it was posted with a bunch of other games so I assume it was from an aggregator of some sort. Could be total bullshit I guess.

>>20938390
Depends on what you're looking for. If you want new characters and a new setting, go for FSN. KT if you want more of the Tsukihime cast. Be aware that it is a fan-disc and it's largely Slice of Life stuff. Also, you should read Plus Disc before KT.
I would say maybe save KT until you start missing the Tsukihime characters, it'll feel good to see them again.

No one here defends Extella or most of Extra for that matter, some people kinda like the original or like CCC, but not uncritically. Not sure where this /vg/ tourist is getting the idea that we love the Extraverse.

>>20938390
KT is pretty fun in my opinion and it has some good side stories, some of which weren't written by Nasu.

>>20938390
you can if you want, but you could also do it after F/SN. honestly KT is way less interesting so you'd probably rush through it in order to start F/SN and ruin your enjoyment.

>>20938390
I really like KT, it's a good fandisk

>>20938386
>Literally all original Servants suck shit,
Julius Caesar is best saber, don't try to pretend otherwise.

>>20938392
can you even read japanese? it's not hard to find sources at all

Why can't people just accept that other people like FGO? Seriously, this whole argument relies on the fundamental principle of "stop liking what I don't like". Which is, perhaps, the most pathetic thing possible.

>>20938429
I accept that people love FGO. I also think FGO is shit. Stop this false dichotomy, logical-fallacy-kun.

>>20938429
As anon said, I accept that people are willing to eat that garbage up. I don't agree with them or respect their shitty opinion, and I dislike them as people for actively contributing to Type-Moon becoming worse.

>>20938447
>I accept that people love FGO.
If you're willing to argue incessantly about it and try to chase them away, then you haven't accepted it at all.

>>20938466
>I don't agree with them or respect their shitty opinion, and I dislike them as people for actively contributing to Type-Moon becoming worse.
You see, the fact that put it like shows that you haven't accepted it.

>>20938480
What do you mean? I accept that people like it, you are allowed to like it. But I am going to shit on you for being a dumbass if you come to this thread flaunting your awful taste, and publicly announcing that you want TM to become worse.

why do some people have straight up autism?

I can't even imagine how many (you)'s this guy has on his screen and he still doesn't give up.

>>20938501
What I mean is that when you start arguing that people liking something is making Type Moon worse, then you haven't gotten over it. Getting over it means accepting that people like what they like, and moving on with your life. Not sitting there seething that they "ruined" something by having a different taste from you.

>>20938480
I never argued that people don't love FGO.

>>20938527
Type-Moon is becoming objectively worse by pandering to the FGO crowd. This is a fact, losing your unique traits and qualities is a downgrade, no matter how you look at it. It probably is good for the gacha market, but they are putting out worse content as a result of finding this gold mine of people that want broadly appealing, easy to digest Servant waifus.
Of course I haven't "gotten over it", I still want Type-Moon to be good, because I imagined so much great stuff in TM's future for years, I can't let it go so easily because some gacha retards found their new favorite timesink. But you didn't ask me if I'd "gotten over it", you asked me if I accepted that some retards like it, which I do.

>奈須氏：
今，僕の時間の半分は「FGO」に使っています。古くからTYPE-MOONを応援してくれている人達からは「浅い」と言われてしまうんですが，より広い層に楽しんでもらえるように間口を広げた結果として，最初はそう見えるかもしれません。
　ただ，実際のところコアの部分は変わっていなくて，遊び続けてもらえば最後には「今までどおりのTYPE-MOONだ」と思ってもらえるような形を目指して作っています。どうか，最後まで付き合ってください。

here is nasu acknowledging that he's aware people think FGO is watered down. his only defense is that he think TM is still the same at it's core and that he hopes you stick with him so that he can possibly convince you otherwise at the end.

now stop being upset at people calling FGO trash because the literal franchise creator is fully fucking aware of it and just thinks about improving.

>>20938617
I was happy to be acknowledged in this interview, but while I doubt I'll ever enjoy FGO, I hope he understands the easiest way to convince people that he's still got it would be to just release the fucking Remake. Or any work by him that's not focused on Servants, in the style of his VNs/LNs.

>>20938701
Honestly, I'd rather him just do SOMETHING. Either announce that he is never making another VN, or actually release something. Keeping us in suspense does nothing but build resentment.

>>20938701
Hard pass from me on the Remake desu. Wouldn't mind seeing something entirely new, though. Or maybe finishing Mahoyo.

will mahou ever be translated and will tsukihime remake ever be released

>>20938722
not likely to ever see another VN from TM. been 7 years now.

Nasu doesn't really stand to benefit to directly cancel the Remake imo. It's a HL3 situation - their money makers, that is, the majority of the fanbase, don't care about their old products and are their for the cash cow, a bit like how Valve was with Steam and their other products. but directly cancelling it looks bad, arguably worse, than just ignoring it.

>>20938778
maybe
no

>>20938557
>Type-Moon is becoming objectively worse by pandering to the FGO crowd.
There is literally no such thing as objectively worse. Grow up.

>>20938809
The big noticeable different from HL3, which had been dead in the water for years, is that to this day TM still acknowledges that Remake exists. They put out promo images, use the redesigns in official art for Comiket, and put it in the calendar for last year. I'm sure we'll see it in TM Ace, whenever that happens.

>>20938905
They're lazier products, more streamlined, way less varied. Sure, in some people's view, that might be better, but it's as damn close to "objectively worse" as you can get.

>>20938778
>will mahou ever be translated
If one of two tl anons in this thread every finishes their projects, yes.

if not no. /vg/ anon in here upset that people are bitching about fgo, and yet nobody points out that that the "type-moon fanbase" that has supposedly grown thousand-fold with FGO hasn't lead to an increase in shit like translations at all. because the new fanbase doesn't give a shit.

Moshi moshi

>>20938984
Look at these dinosaurs from 1999, still using land lines.

>>20939050
Saphire-chan is cute, CUTE!
I want to kiss a kaleidostick!

>>20938919
To be somewhat fair to Valve, Gabe never stopped acknowledging HL3, he just said he wasn't going to talk about it. Might just be a difference of individual approach; Nasu always likes to talk about things in a sort've "if" tone. He talks about a lot of things that he'd like to do someday, or things that he would have done in the past.

Insofar as the official artwork that's been put out of the Remake it's hard to measure if there's a significant amount of effort being put there. I think there was at first - back in 2015 - but ever since then it's been pretty lazy. Just typical copypasta Takeuchi artwork and some of the expressions are straight up 1:1 to each other, even on different characters. I mean, even the stuff they put out when it seemed like they were getting a bit serious about it was so-so. And since then, it's just been nuArc once in awhile. Aside from the Comiket merchandise, that is.

>>20939144
Nu-arc wouldn't be so shit if it wasn't for that awful haircut
God it looks terrible

>>20938701
just need to accept that fgo is his cashcow, and that extra is his passion project now.

mahoyo used to be his passion project for a few years, but they took too long and his interest moved over to the mooncell. and for whatever reason he's not getting tired of it.

can the extra series atleast have 1 game with gameplay that isn't literal dogshit?

maybe it would grow on me then.

>>20939185
In which case he could make something like Extra, which was closer to his proper VN style and didn't overuse Servants like Extella. Maybe make it a good RPG this time. I would actually be interested in that, as opposed to more GO style trash.

>>20939201
It's kinda sad that Nasu has good gameplay influences but the studios he works with produce the most dogshit gameplay imaginable. He really needs to find a game designer than isn't third-rate.

>>20935334
>projecting

>>20937905
>Even the outline of Septem has more plot than let's say Mahoyo?
Wew lad this is sad.

>>20939214
He already found French Bread, unfortunately he'd need to actually put in work and finish the Remake before they make another game.
He should find one for RPGs if he intends to make more Extra though. Sadly he'll probably keep it to musou and gacha shit, cause the new fanbase only wants more of that lazily made trash.

>>20938778
There is a french translation for Mahoyo.
At this point, I honestly prefer to see the rest of the mahoyo trilogy than a Tsuki remake without the soul of the original VN.

>>20938190
>trying to defend Septem on principle
>also saying that Septem's concept is superior to the last good thing Nasu made
Stop posting, this is getting embarrassing.

>>20939214
I'm kinda glad and sad at the sametime that fromsoft's miyazaki decided to work on original IPs instead of weebshit. he wrote about reading F/SN back in the day for the anniversary thing, and armored core 4A is filled with muv-luv references.

Instead of discussing FGO, could you recommend me some good Tsukihime doujins ? Any girl will do.

>>20938617
That is Nasu saying the people who criticize it is wrong though. He's not acknowledging anything.

>>20939502
This goes back to a main line of thought, Nasu doesn't understand the reasons why people liked his work in the first place.

>>20939221
Not a argument, but cute attempt I'll grant you.

>>20939506
> Nasu doesn't understand the reasons why people liked his work in the first place.
Have you may be considered that he totally does understand, and that people like you are just a outlier?

>>20939508
Nor is your grammar.

>>20938617
Nasu says that the ones who criticize FGO only do it because of this:
>古くからTYPE-MOONを応援してくれている人達からは「浅い」と言われてしまうんですが，より広い層に楽しんでもらえるように間口を広げた結果として，最初はそう見えるかもしれません。
It's only "shallow" because is now designed to appeal to a wider audience. That's all he says, in fact, he's insulting in a polite Japanese way to tell you to get out and touch the grass but he doesn't outright say it. He's Japanese after all. He's not addressing any criticism only the obvious "It's popular, so it sucks" in plain English. Then:
>ただ，実際のところコアの部分は変わっていなくて，遊び続けてもらえば最後には「今までどおりのTYPE-MOONだ」と思ってもらえるような形を目指して作っています。どうか，最後まで付き合ってください。
He says that the core never changed and is the same, you have to play it to the end, etc.

>>20939523
My grammar is neither cute, or a argument.

>>20939518
Perhaps, but I don't think that many people who first liked Tsuki/FSN would like GO.
Some do for sure, but I'm thinking it would be under 50% of the original primaries.

>>20939506
>liked knk, mahoyo, tsukihime, fsn, fgo etc just fine
Mmm. Maybe it's just you and a vocal whiny minority?

>>20939528
English lesson, ESL-kun.
Before a word which starts with a vowel, it is an, not a.
Now who is the manchild again?

shut up and post some women already

>>20939531
Enlighten me how you could like literally all of his works?
I don't, GO isn't even close to the only one I dislike.

>>20939538
That is the 2hu mentality of coping with life.
I'm tired of how much worse TM threads have become as they shift towards the 2hu mindset.

I'm not even sure who is going through the 5 stages or who has reached acceptance.

>>20939530
Why? Do you think liking a visual novel somehow prevents you from also liking a mobile gacha game?

>>20939185
>extra
>passion project
He only wrote Extella because Marvelous begged him to write another game, and barely even talks about it. He had no interest in touching it again until they asked for it. While he wanted to badly write RPG that became FGO the big itch he had to scratch since Apocrypha original concept of the social game failed and he had this shelved for years. Even more when he wrote FGO using the original ideas and he had for Fate.

I think you and that anti Extra anon are confused about Nasu. Nasu's obsessive rewrite on Extra is because he's not satisfied with Extra and nobody tells him to stop. Look at Nasu's other Fate works. FSN was popular and start over this fad slowly but surely, and FGO is a juggernaut. In comparison to them, Extra and derivates look like big flops despite having 3 games, and a complete retelling, it exists forever in the shadow of the first Fate (SN) and the most popular Fate (GO).

>>20939536
You, for somehow assuming that grammar is any indication of one's maturity.

>>20939580
No, it is the feeling of how genuine something is, regardless of it's flaws.
Soulless things stick out very quickly.

>>20939584
How long have you been posting here, champ?

>>20939581
What would make Extra popular? I don't mean the popularity it has because it leeches from FSN and FGO now. On its own.

>>20939554
>2hu mentality.
We need a lot more misanthropy, completely misunderstanding canon, and murder apologism in these threads before we reach that level.

I mean, I have yet to see anybody defend mass murder.

>>20939588
1: That's really subjective. 2: That still doesn't prevent you from enjoying something anyway. Junk food is soulless, yet plenty of people can enjoy both it and soul food just fine.

>>20939599
Yeah, while they are undeniably the worst fanbase on 4chan, we are closing in as a whole.

>>20939605
Indeed, generally speaking people accept overbearing consumerism as long as it is convenient for them.
In this case, I just think it is too much of a rort to accept.

>>20939524
why are you just re-writing my post?

>his only defense is that he thinks TM is still the same at it's core and that he hopes you stick with him so that he can possibly convince you otherwise at the end.

>>20939618
I think that, considering the insane success FGO has, most people can accept it just fine.

Hell. I like Fate Stay Night, and I can accept it just fine. There are certainly times where I wish it wasn't a mobile game. But I tend to get over that pretty easily.

Who would win a death fight between Ryougi and Arcueid ?
It's 5:30am.

>>20939518
>>20939531
Why did you faggots decide to come to /tmg/ all of a sudden?

>>20939636
Ea gg lol

Good fucking lord, why did outsiders suddenly decide it was a good idea to turn /tmg/ into an arguing general by defending FGO here of all places? Have you not had enough of this discussion everywhere fucking else for 3+ years?

>>20939636
Arc easy

>>20939407
The whole series by this artist is still the best if you ask me, in terms of how the characters are drawn
https://exhentai.org/g/1150250/8db9cacd2d/
https://exhentai.org/g/836633/4cf8369e64/

>>20939639
because their shitty game won't have content for another week since the dev team fucked up developing the new event.

these threads are going to be shit-show.

>>20939657
They've surely had weeks like that before over the best year. I don't get the sudden interest in us.

>give people an inch...
This goes back to my nu-TM and 2hu comparison, give them any excuse and they will force their thing.

>>20939661
sales numbers have dropped since 2019 started, could be that the fanbase really is getting tired out, which is reflected in their shitposting

>>20939655
Rin you need to calm down, its just an internet thread

>>20938617
Didn't Nasu also said in this very same interview that he doesn't give a fuck about VNs, only made them back them because they were the hot thing at the moment, and his dream has always been to make video games?

>>20939508
>Not a argument
People use this incorrectly too often. You only say "Not an argument" when someone is actually arguing with you; calling someone a retard or suggesting that they're projecting isn't an argument, sure, but it was never meant to be - it's an observation. Observations on their own aren't worthy of this meme response. Now, if they said, "You're wrong because you're a retard" that's a different matter.
>>20939581
>because he's not satisfied with Extra and nobody tells him to stop
The sad part is is that Nasu isn't satisfied with any of his works I think. I bet in 5 years we'll be getting interview snippets where he talks about how unsatisfied he is with FGO and how he wants to rewrite parts of it.
>>20939655
Tsurui draws some delicious bodies though I do wish his faces were better. Still, they are (sadly) some of the only fappable Tsukihime doujins.

>>20939687
He didn't say that directly, no, but he did talk about how he always wanted to make video games, yes.

It's pretty obvious he doesn't care about making visual novels anymore, though.

>>20939682
Since apparently the warning in the OP wasn't enough and some people are just coming here to pick fights, I'm really considering we should just ban FGO discussion until these faggots blow over. They should be gone by the time the next relevant Lostbelt or content update comes anyway.

>>20939687
he does, which is really sad honestly.
he has actually listed several jrpgs over different years already and how much he loves them and they inspired him, and yet all TM game attempts pretty much end up being really bad. some of the fighting games are obviously good.

>>20939703
not like they would listen anyway. and it's not like janitors will give enough of a fuck to side with us.

>>20939703
Why not just filter it? Do you honestly think you can just "ban" FGO discussion and it'll stop? It won't.

>>20939717
Mods in /jp/ have been pretty good to us, they might delete their posts if we report for off-topic.

>>20939720
FGO discussion has been perfectly fine here for a year, until a few days ago some faggots decided to come out of the woodworks to restart the old tired arguments and try to turn this place into /a/ 2.0.

>>20939720
because the shitstorm still counts for the post-limit. we're moving too fast.

>>20939598
I've thought about it and I don't think is possible. Extella is a bit more popular than Extra, but also is riding on the Fate craze. Who knows if it wouldn't be even less popular without FGO effect. It has three fundamental flaws:
>A) The setting isn't interesting
>B) Weak and unmemorable antagonists/final conflict
>C) Convulted or niche themes and the lack of a symbolic character (not the protagonist) that embodies them.

I can expand on why but I'll just say in regard to the first one is probably the worst flaw because it can't be improved on easily, unlike the other two. Even with some tech here and there, both FGO and FSN are firmly fantasy. FSN is urban fantasy, and FGO is high fantasy, but still is Fantasy. Extra is this weird sci-fi fantasy that would be cool if wasn't associated with Fate. A dystopian future is fine on its own, but to apply it to Fate is an awkward mix. Not just this, but is a virtual reality in the Moon made mysteriously and without explaining why it exists in one branch only. There's a poor, poor basic world building from the beginning. And world-building is one of Nasu's main strengths. It is also hardly unique because it came out in the period when virtual fantasy stories were popular so was like following a trend.

In comparison, despite how you might love/hate the setting, FSN has a small Japanese city that is recognizable "this could be where I live" recognition appeal. FGO has the whole broad history around the world to choose from "this is where I want to travel" high fantasy appeal.

I think he could start to give us a reason why Mooncell only exists in Extra.

>>20939692
Not an argument is being used in that case because it's a pointless reply that doesn't add anything.

>ur retarded
>no u
wouldn't be any better of a conversation.

>>20939739
>I think he could start to give us a reason why Mooncell only exists in Extra.
he's probably just gonna pull some bullshit where it's actually in all timelines.

the white giant is pretty much confirmed to have happened in all major timelines, which means velber also exists. velber and the mooncell are seemingly made by the same, or very similiar races.

>>20939696
There you have it then.
People keep saying Nasu should do this or that or as he used to, but it's clear he does not want to. Just like he wants to keep writing his Humanity vs Beasts also I'm a massive Camelotboo Highschool notebook stories dreams he wants to also do so in the videogame format he also dreamed about. People need to accept this and learn to move on and if they don't want to move on at the very least learn to enjoy the little enjoyable bits left.

>>20939692
>The sad part is is that Nasu isn't satisfied with any of his works I think. I bet in 5 years we'll be getting interview snippets where he talks about how unsatisfied he is with FGO and how he wants to rewrite parts of it.
Nasu has the biggest autism regarding this I've seen in my life. I mean, it's not an uncommon thing with creators, old shame and all, but he takes it to another level. Most creators just go "Oh well" and move on with their life, but he's hung up about it 24/7 and yet never does any truly meaningful about it and only tries to change and retcon things on a superficial manner through anime adaptations or material books and the such.
I genuinely cheered out loud when I read about how he went to the HF movie guy with a bunch of papers full of re-writes he wanted to make and he told him to fuck off because people wanted to see HF and not HF Rewrite.

>>20939709
That's something that baffles me too. It's not like he's a random casual, you can tell he's played all kind of games, he's even mentioned a lot of really good ones, though he has also gone full retard by mentioning abominations like Danganronpa V3, but the point is that Nasu is not a casual, so why can't he get an actual good developer is beyond me, specially nowadays that people would kill to work on Fate.
This reminds me that French Bread was on a huge recruitment process some time ago. I wonder if they're making a FGO fightan right now. Can't wait for Saber at EVO.

>>20939759
It's a pointless reply to a pointless post that was just an insult in the first place. The whole "ur retarded"
"no u"
is basically what happened in the first place, yeah. Except in this case it was
"ur whiny man children"
"no u"
"not an argument"

>>20939692
While you're not incorrect, he doesn't actually make a huge overhaul of changing absolutely everything as he did with Extra twice. Look at some changes he did in UBW anime (the Saber vs Berserker battle had changes because he wrote them) or in First Order anime. He made some changes from the Prologue of FGO (making Medusa a Lancer). These are small changes to improve on what he liked but wasn't sold. Those are bare minimum details that only improve the experience but doesn't change anything.

It's very different to what he does with Extra, as if he's trying to undo the puzzle and fit the fragments in another way to get a completely different thing.

>>20939771
>>I genuinely cheered out loud when I read about how he went to the HF movie guy with a bunch of papers full of re-writes he wanted to make and he told him to fuck off because people wanted to see HF and not HF Rewrite.
I'm hoping he'll get some confidence in his work considering how popular Sakura is these days. I mean, she's drawn all the time and posted about on Twitter and people seem to genuinely be positive towards the HF adaptions.

>>20939770
He already established it didn't, though. It's even important in the CCC event that there's no Mooncell in FGO.

>>20939771
>I wonder if they're making a FGO fightan right now.
If this happened before Melty I'd fucking kill myself man.
FGO doesn't even deserve a good game at all. The fans keep supporting it, all they're asking for is more trash like it.
The very idea of a Tsukihime x Fate game at this point, half flooded by FGO's shitty characters, makes my head hurt.

I think the new hiring spree is likely just for UNIST, with the new update they've confirmed to be working on. And if they're working on anything else, I can only hope it's Melty and Nasu has told them he plans to announce the Remake soon.

>>20939775
Yeah, I agree. It's just used here as a "better" reply to pointless insults.

>>20939804
>>I think the new hiring spree is likely just for UNIST, with the new update they've confirmed to be working on. And if they're working on anything else, I can only hope it's Melty and Nasu has told them he plans to announce the Remake soon.
You keep setting yourself up for disappointment like this.

>>20939804
If the mechanics are the same as Melty, is your only issue with FGO fightan or FGOxMelty fightan that it involves FGO characters?

>>20939808
That's only my unfounded hope. If I didn't have any hope for the future, I wouldn't stay up to date with TM.
But really, I'd be happy with anything from French Bread except a nu-Fate game.

>>20939770
If Mooncell exists, there's no Crimson Moon.

>>20939817
Well obviously, I fucking hate FGO's characters.
But more than that, like I already said, FGO's fans don't deserve to be rewarded for supporting literal trash for years.

>>20939739
I hate to bring up FGO, but didn't Olga's father had versions of spiritron Mooncell-like cubes in his basement of Seraphics in the CCC event? Zepar took the abandoned research and completed it because he had actual information. How did this guy have that?

>>20939804
>>20939827
So, FGO is a bad game, but it is also bad that it would get a good game with a good developer? Who even gets you people anymore. You're blind with hatred, nothing will ever satisfy you short of traveling back in time to 2004.

>>20939827
So it's really just you being petty, not out of love for Melty Blood. It's funny because I only know one dude who still plays Melty regularly at poverty tier tourneys, and he plays FGO.

For the record, I don't play any gatcha games. FGO's gameplay seems really fucking boring, but I'd definitely try a MeltyxFGO fighting game.

>>20939850
>you people
You're talking to one dude, dude. I don't really give a shit.

>>20939844
Please wait for Secret Lostbelt 8 where Moneybills becomes a Beast for an explanation. Please understand.
LB4 is gonna be the one dealing with the Mooncell anyway. It's no coincidence that the re-run of the CCC event was just now.

>>20939862
>>20939844
>Mfw he actually rayshifted to the past and made mooncell in Extra
That explains why it exists when time divergences in Fate universe accepted average history are caused by human decisions/actions.

>>20939850
Why are you here motherfucker?
I won't be satisfied with FGO anything, of course not, I hate the entire idea of it and what it represents for Type-moon.
This hypothetical fighting game would not become the main "FGO product", the majority of fans would still be dumping money into a cancerous, anti-consumer mobage and helping that cancer spread. It's not like getting a good game would fix FGO, it would be incentive to get people to keep spending money on it.

>>20939854
>and he plays FGO
Does he spend money on it, or not? Cause if he does, he's an idiot who is ensuring that Type-Moon stay away from their non-Fate properties and focus only on low quality products all the time.

>>20939877
No clue, but he has Jalter.

>>20939862
It doesn't necessarily need to deal with Mooncell. Because the event established Marisbury already making spiritron cubes that looked like proto Mooncells but abandoned the investigation because of rayshifting being his main deal. If he did that, maybe Hindu gods did the same.

>>20939877
>>Why are you here motherfucker?
To talk about Fate.

>>20939874
>Moneybills invented Extra
That's so retarded I can see it happening. It would line in perfectly with how wanked he is and ridiculous his feats are. I swear he's Nasu's self-insert at times.

>>20939894
Right, but why are you so surprised about someone disliking FGO if you're in the thread where people who can't stand /fgog/ come to?

Read >>20932570
>For Fate/Grand Order discussion with fans of the game, please check >>>/vg/fgog/

>>20939900
Nasu is self-loathing and looks down at himself (he said Roman was most like him). This is the embodiment of his sugar daddy in his poverty days. A message about how money and faceless old rich guys are truly the strongest.

>>20939903
There's disliking and yet being able to have a proper conversation about it and then there's autistically screeching. Get a grip my dude.

>>20939903
Look, I don't like FGO, but we're not all autistically hating it here like you are. It's shit. I'd rather not really think about it, but if people want to talk about it, that's fine. You're the one who added that to the OP so don't pretend like everyone shares the exact same sentiments as you do. I understand your position of anger, but I really don't think it does any good to thrash out about it everytime it's mentioned. You aren't going to hate FGO out of existence.

Speaking of Animusphere. Doesn't he have a voiced part in the Rail Zeppelin incident? Does this mean he'll get a VA?

>>20939907
>A message about how money and faceless old rich guys are truly the strongest.
It's true. I can't think of any other reason why they're the ones mind-breaking and penetrating the wombs of the Prisma girls in the majority of the doujins.

>>20939920
>tfw 10 years ago Illya doujins were a rarity and the few that came out had awful art
>tfw present day they're common as fuck but most of them are rape by fat old dudes
The worst monkey paw

>>20939929
The ones that get scanned, my dude. Blame the shit taste of the scanners.

>>20939909
Fuck off man, how was this literally never a problem for /tmg/ until a few days ago? Why did you decide to come shit the place up, if you're one of the newcomers looking for arguments? The whole point of this place was to avoid those arguments and avoid FGOfags, because they're way overdone.

>>20939916
>You aren't going to hate FGO out of existence
Quite unfortunately.
But as another anon said earlier, giving these people an inch HAS become a problem. I'm just afraid if we let it keep going, they'll try to turn this place into a fucking /fgog/ lore discussion general, and we'll have to move to a new general yet again
The speed of the thread has also gotten really annoyingly fast, we're going almost 1 a day.

>>20939933
Speaking of which, I wish there were more Servant x Servant doujins. Tired of (you) be it male or female.

>>20939920
I feel that Animsuphere guy is more interested in pretty, impressionable young men with long hair than lolis though. He must have been in his 50s-60s when Olga was born (if she was born and she's not a test tube/experiment). That's awfully old for any good magus who wants to pass his crest. The complete lack of mention of women or wives in his life is fairly glaring.

>>20939951
None of the servants really get along with each other. Rider teased Saber a bit with some yuri in HA but that's all I can think of.

>>20939951
Frankly some of the servants have more chemistry with one another than they do with the protag so that'd be nice

>>20939957
With how much shit Olga gets I wouldn't be surprised if she was an accident from a random whore Moneybills fucked or something like that.

>>20939951
>I wish there were more Servant x Servant doujins
There are some if you dig around, but there are mostly BL. There is also a lot of other Master/Servant stuff that doesn't gets scanned either old like Shirou/Saber or Rin/Archer, or Kadoc/Anastasia, for example.

>>20939970
I feel she's going to be an experiment, but we'll see.

This is the cutest Saberface, say something nice about her.

>>20940005
Saber is dumb!

>>20940017
Merlin really was a fucking awful Dad/Teacher.
Reminder that Morgan was robbed of her throne and she's the rightful heir of Britain.

>>20939803
>>20939824
It doesn't have to be active or in the same place to still exist. pulling something like "they built it but never teleported it in place" or whatever is an easy excuse to still write it in whenever he wants.

>>20940005
She's a cute, with good fashion sense.

>real main character
>written by one author
>urban fantasy mystery
>consistent tone and characterization
>interesting lore is explored alongside a compelling story, not just a carrot on a stick to carry you through a shitty product

Case Files has gotta be the best Type-Moon thing since Mahoyo, right? I kind of puts to shame all of Nasu's recent stuff, and shows how pathetic TM's situation is.

>>20940086
Magi really need a fashionista on their ranks because goddamn they all dress like retards.

>>20940005
She is up there, but not quite.

>>20940091
Is that so? I don't know shit about fashion, but I think Waver looks pretty slick.

>>20940101
Waver is half-normalfag so he's the exception.

>>20940109
Half-normalfag, full Chad.

>>20940131
More like full homo.

>>20940091
A Blackmore wearing a feather cloak makes perfect sense.

>>20940152
WHY IS HE SO FUCKING COOL
I WANT HIM IN THE NEXT MELTY BLOOD SO BAD
I WANT NASU TO WRITE ABOUT NEVERMORE AND HIS HISTORY WITH ORTENROSSE IN A REAL VN

>>20940169
He's a bird brain that wears six shoes.

>>20940217
Shut it, you pedobait Churchfag.

>>20939949

Keep fighting the good fight. FGO has been drowning the threads lately.

>finally read KnK 6
>go rewatch the movie
Whoa, you guys weren't kidding when you said that they totally changed/messed it up. It's alright on its own, but the book is way better.

>>20940287
guess who directed it :^)

>>20940296
The same guy that's saving Heaven's Feel from Nasu right? I actually didn't like the the first HF movie very much, but the second one was very good.

>>20940287
I felt the same. I honestly thought people were exaggerating when they said the movie "butchered" the book, but after reading it, it sure did defeat the whole point of the story and remove all interesting aspects of it.
The movie by itself has some flashy action and cute girls, that's the best I can say about it.

>>20940296
I still think he did a decent job with UBW, but KnK6 was terrible as an adaptation.

>>20940304
Nah, Heaven's Feel is by the guy who did KnK Mirai Fukuin.
KnK6 was by the UBW director, who now does the action scenes in HF movies.

>>20940311
Ah, UBW I thought was overall pretty good despite some unconventional choices.

>>20940246
Its a coincidence that the shota DAA is a member of the church, right?

>>20940325
Surely. And the fact that he disguises himself as a creepy old priest dude, too.

>>20940287
I haven't checked to confirm this at all, but I keep reading posts from nips about how Miura (the UBW director) pretty much put every change in nasu wanted, ever since KnK 6. which is why nasu started HF rewrites before even talking to the director at all.

>>20940307
>hahah Kurogiri sure is like Mikiya right?
>barely show it or explain it
>don't even delve into his backstory at all
What the actual fuck

>>20940325
An orgy with Merem and his weird toys!

>>20940339
They legit don't even show his death from the end of the book. He just fucking disappears in the movie.
And don't get me started on Azaka's earphones nullifying his magic language. At least Nasu and Takechi acknowledged how stupid that was in the Q&As.

>>20940328
Rat King is pretty cute.

>>20940352
>And don't get me started on Azaka's earphones nullifying his magic language.
Yeah, I was so confused at this part that I had to go check the book again and make sure I wasn't a massive retard and somehow missed that part.

>He just fucking disappears in the movie.
Also Shiki kills his arm completely offscreen. You think they would have at least animated that flashy fight some more.

KnK 6 is even worse because it comes right after 5. I have no idea what they were thinking.

I kinda liked the Azaka fight...

>>20940617
It's cool looking, but also kinda unecessarily extended from the book.
I like her running on top of the benches. But why was there a dumb giant fairy flower thing?

>>20940617
It's cool but it makes zero sense. Also what the fuck is the flower thing.

Does Fujimara Raiga know that Ilya is Kiritsugu's biological daughter?

>>20940922
Why would he even know who Illya is?

>>20940932
Ilya spends time with the fujimura group after the Fate route and it's also mentioned in HA a few times as well that Raiga spoils her rotten.

>>20940939
Right, forgot about that.
Taiga shouldn't know, so if he found out Illya probably told him herself.

>>20940945
That's kind of sad I guess, considering that Kiritsugu and Raiga had a deep friendship I was hoping he would know perhaps a bit about his background.

>>20940005
My most favorite Saber-face ;; She is too adorable

>>20940086
Your pic makes me remember how terrible those villagers in Gray's hometown are. Poor Gray ;__; Also Logos React is cool btw

>>20939917
He does ? Would be interesting if it's true

>>20939970
Olga's childhood is pretty sad. Moneybills didn't even take care of her

>>20941414
Olga is there, and I think her dad cameo behind the scenes in Case files but I don't remember if it's in that chapter.

>>20940136
If you don't bond with your kingfu, you suck.

>>20941618
Yeah Marisbilly was mentioned in the Rail Zeppelin case, i just don't remember if he had a voiced part or not

Just watched a Melty blood tournament for the first time. Looks neat as fuck.
Shiki a best

>>20933236
But we got given one of the best spin-offs that is Emiya-gohan

>>20937857
Does he say that it's an excuse in the anime?

wtf isit?

>>20942501
Mahoyo on PS vita

>>20941951
Yes, Saber is the one who calls him out on it and he agrees. Episode 19 I think.

>>20942557
Yes Psvita....
PS Vita????

>>20942670
It's just an edit man

Are there any good Tsukihime-related out there ? Like AMV, memes, this kind of things.

>>20939655
Thanks for the links, I enjoyed it before sleep.

>>20942970
>Are there any good Tsukihime-related out there ?
Melty blood. Or the Tsukihime manga.
Sadly the Tsukihime part in Carnival phantasm are the worst.

>>20943577
>Sadly the Tsukihime part in Carnival phantasm are the worst.

Detective Hisui was one of the best segments

>>20943605
and Akiha segment was clearly bad enough to compensate that

>>20943656
Akiha segment was a decent enough sexual fantasy.
I like Sacchin's role in it.

>>20943577
You didn't like Arc raping Nrvnqsr?