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>>20922813
First for Beato!

What's going to be first, Dies Irae Vita version or Sony stopping to support the Vita?

>>20921348
someone ask him if we'll ever get the switch pantheon extra story

Ahhh... Marguerite...

Ahhh... Claudia...

>>20923355
Arte of divinity, extolled genius, alien diction: mankind’s bane, the heart’s lament.
A bond from fortune wrought, its core in tragedy tested, chiseled to perfection.
Fortune, O mistress ever so fickle: you claim for your own all that was once given.
Blind is Fortune, yet blind, too, are those that seek refuge in her light.
Reason’s shackles bind you not: quench, at times, your thirst with folly’s pearls.
Revel and drink and frolic in life, for Hades holds no circus for the fallen!

Atziluth

Vive Memor Mortis — Acta Est Fabula!

Kei best girl

>>20923408
Did nothing wrong

>>20923408

>>20923408
>>20923355
>>20922813
MURYOU TAISUU!

Anyone know any good artists that draw Shinza art? There's so little on the net, I'm wondering if I'm looking in the wrong places.

I wish that things would never slow down
I wish time itself would never stop moving

>>20923850
Brother no, you can't just swing your mandala around like that! Have some decency.

>>20922813
Is Mithra a slut???

>>20923893
You're probably looking at the right places, there just aren't many Shinza artists aroud, sadly. But hey, maybe Pantheon will be able to boost that a bit, one of the few good things about mobage in general.

>>20924124
That would require Pantheon to ever come out

>>20924135
Believe it.

>>20924135
KKK will come out before Pantheon.

>>20924204
If it doesn't?

>>20924207
It will.

>>20923355
>>20923408
Drama CD translations when.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qidejegy2FA

>>20924544
What THE FUCK are they doing? What in Mercurius' name is going on?

>>20924569
Entertaining Reinhard.

Why do people meme Spinne so much? I don't get it.

>>20922827
Beato a shit!
>>20922945
Definitely the latter. They stopped production in Japan already.

Shinitai. Why I even started it instead of just doing some other pantheon prologue fragment.

>>20924869
Because he's the secret final boss of Shinza.

>>20924987
Do your best!

>>20924987
>other pantheon prologue fragment.
or do the drama cds

>>20924987
Good luck!

When I first read the prologue of KKK, I, honestly, wasn't very impressed. I started it soon after finishing dies, and that Sakuya's letter lacked the almost hypnotic effect of the Mercurius' speech at the start of dies. I also obviously couldn't understand like half of it because you weren't supposed to completely understand it. Somehow I never really went back to it after finishing KKK.
Until just lately, when I've read it again. This time I finally understood just how powerful this part was.
Well, anyway, now I'm dead in more ways than one. I'm pretty sure I wasn't really able to convey that keigo-heavy Sakuya speech manner, and I feel like I've terrible failed at the two last lines, but... oh well.

https://pastebin.com/gaUgvGNe

>>20925617
>I also obviously couldn't understand like half of it because you weren't supposed to completely understand it.
And because AGTH can't get images. At least that's how it was in my case.
Either way, thank you for doing Hadou God's work.

>>20925631
>spoiler
I was... kind of used to stuff like that, because I've read Muramasa before dies. It's just that it is filled with terms and names I knew nothing about at the time. I've read KKK soon after it came out, so I haven't even seen any spoilers on it.
>>20925256
Honestly, translating pantheon prologue with just video was annoying enough, I don't think I have enough patience to do sound dramas. Besides, I think another anon is already doing some of them.

>>20925617
>Until just lately, when I've read it again. This time I finally understood just how powerful this part was.
And then when you realise who the letter is addressed to. Really gave me a certain kinda feeling in my chest.

Best CG in the game. Also, Ludvig did nothing wrong

>>20925936
Lui*

>>20925947
It's Louie.

>>20925954
>It's Louie
Don't fuck with me lad, I haven't seen the translation.
It's Lui isn't it?

>>20925992
What's the difference?

>>20926014
Lui is Claudia's affectionate way of say Ludvig which is obviously short hand
Louie is an English name and completely different, it's just weird
But after Ren-pen and Renny I shouldn't have been surprised

>>20926033
They sound exactly the same, though.

>>20926039
>They sound exactly the same, though.
That's not the issue
It's just a weird choice

iakbey is a side story so where does it take place within dies irae? within rea's route?

>>20926100
Before Dies irae. Several years.

>>20926103
sorry, i wasn't more clear but i mean before wilhelm recounts his past to dinah. is the bar scene with wilhelm and dinah before i flashes back to his past also before dies irae?

>>20926115
Literally before he goes to Shambala

>>20926115
Yes. Just before the start.

>>20926117
>>20926121
thanks, just started playing it and i was really curious as to the chronology of events.

>no option to kill shirou for insulting ren's waifu

>>20928167
It's just playful banter

>>20928178
Behead those who insult our waifu.

>>20928167
>Friendless loser
>Anyone's waifu
Kei is for bullying and Shirou knows it.

>>20928348
Reinhard thinks well of her and I think so does Mercurius (but my memory of the Kei route is hazy) but none of that matters because Kei is Best Girl. What other girl loves her Onii-chan so much that her passion is literally lethal?

>>20928217
>Behead those who insult our waifu
spoken like a cuck

>>20928796
It's God's will.

>>20928167
this is why shirou is the best character in the VN

Do we ever find out how the fuck Spinne made his way into the LDO? What did Mercurius and Reinhard see in him?

How strong is Einherjar Wilhelm?

>>20928966
He's literally just a fodder character turned into a massive meme by the fanbase.

>>20928966
He can handle himself in normal human situations much better than anyone else in the LDO.

>>20929419
Even Beatrice? Isn’t she supposed to be the least autistic of the nutbags?

>>20929419
>>20929742
It's more that he's a force to be reckoned with as long as he's not the one fighting. He's responsible for providing the LDO with everything they need without them just wrecking havoc and attracting unnecessary attention. Ikabey shows that side of his pretty well, as does Wolfsrudel (which is not translated, but at least the anime gave us a glimpse of it).

>>20929742
Beatrice is a different kind of autist.

>>20928371
Isaak isn't exactly appreciative of her in Rea's route

>>20930139
Poor kid's just jealous his dad appreciates the tragedy of her idiocy more than his attempts at impressing dad by being competent.

How come Claudia was never mentioned during DI?

>>20930269
Because it was written about ten years before Ikabey?

>>20930295
I think what he's trying to say is that Masada is a hack who retroactively writes things into his stories.
Basically, he is a bored shitposter from /vn/.

>>20930330
Pretty much this, yes.

>>20930330
I understand that, which doesn't make the most simple explanation any less legitimate. It's not like the LDO are obliged to mention every single detail of their lives to Ren or the reader.

>>20930476
Add in that it's not exactly a detail in his life that Wilhelm would be fond to remember

>>20930494
I don't think there's any reason for him to remember it either. Plus Wilhelm's a dick, so he likely doesn't think much of it either way in the end.

>>20930616
The anime adds in a scene where he remembers Claudia as he dies. Obviously anime-onlies had no idea who she was.

>>20931274
Maybe I should actually watch it despite my better judgment.

>Ikabey flopped
Well, it's over I guess. Was fun while it lasted.

>>20931514
Says who?

>>20931535
steam has public player numbers you know.

>>20931546
Yeah. But it's an 8-hour VN. You're buying into the /vg/ bullshit? There's obviously not going to be as much overlap. And it's also a spin-off title. With those parameters in place, how could it be a flop?

>>20931514
https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/1102180575140548611

>>20931514
Here, have this screen as my gift to you. It should at least make your shitposting slightly more colorful.

>>20931514
>He doesn't know how sales works

>>20931556
>/vg/ bullshit?
VNTS is saying the same thing

>>20931602
/vg/ was saying it first. Their current thread edition is even calling it the "blunder of the century".

imagine being this in denial

If you retards had bought it instead of torrented it then we would've been fine. Thanks for fucking it up for the real fans.

>>20931560
Playing devil's advocate but this could be damage control. Steiner's obviously not going to say "yeah this is selling a lot less than we expected"

>>20931629
>>20931641
Samefag

Oh, and also I've finally managed to finish Ikabey in English, and the translation is pretty good overall. Ludwig's fairly distinct speech manner was transpired quite well, which was my main concern, honestly. Nothing much to add about the Bey's narration and such besides what I've already said. There are some typos here and there, and I think in the picrelated the whole sentence is missing. I honestly don't remember if it was also like that in the original script.

>>20931659
That won't shut up the naysayers, unfortunately. But thanks for confirming.

>>20931653
I mean, he isn't wrong.

>>20931653
He's right.

>>20931688
>>20931680
He isn't.
What has been fucked up for real fans?

>>20931693
If the game is a flop and we don't get any more translations then that's the fault of the pirates.

>>20931700
just buy a second copy then retard
if you're a REAL fan

>>20931700
That could be true if we knew sales data and expectations from light. We don't know any of that, and playercount has almost never been accurate when it comes to sales as evident with the steam leaks from last year or so.

>>20931708
Fuck off, pirate. People wouldn't need to buy more than one copy to cover for your entitled asses if you had an honest bone in your body.

>>20931708
>buy more copies to feed pirates
Fuck no. I hope KKK never gets translated.

>There are people that can't afford a 20$ VN
Wow.

>>20931726
Seriously, I feel sorry for them if they can't even afford something that cheap.

A lot of tourists today.

>>20931734
He looks like he came here to laugh at me.

LMAO JOPS are just assblasted that /ourguy/ steiner translated and made masada's shit better in english

>>20931753
He can't keep getting away with this bros

>>20931753
They just can't handle the fact that the translation is better than the original

>>20931770
how would you know if you can't read it?

>>20931779
They're just memeing, you brainlet.

>>20931786
you can meme with something that isn't easily picked apart to really piss people off you know

I pirated Ikabey
I feel no shame or remorse

>>20931805
wow anon do you want a prize for being such a twisted human bean

>>20931819
Yes, why yes I would

>>20931805
Fuck off foolish God.

>>20931805
Kys poorfag.

>>20931805
i uploaded the torrent
i feel no shame or remorse either friend

>>20931805
>>20931852
On one hand I feel the same way, but on the other hand I recognise that we're part of a vicious cycle that ruins niche hobbies. We're typically more tech-savvy than the average normalfag and will find a way to make the hobby cheaper regardless of what it is, but it goes doubly so for games that we can just pirate. The business guys at the businesses that make our hobbies understand this and therefore try to make the hobby be more popular in order to attract more buyers which in turn makes us resentful and even less likely to support the devs, and so on.

>>20931891
your support really matters less than you think it does, especially now that the VN market is dying.

>>20931912
This mentality is what killed it.

>>20931891
Don't listen to this anon >>20931912
Every bit helps, especially with the state of the VN market. Besides, Ikabey wasn't a super big investment project anyways so it'll be fine. More importantly is what happens with the bigger projects down the line with their apparent 2-year plan.

>>20931912
>it's dying so i won't support it
>it dies because there's no support
wow

>>20931912
It's exactly because it's dying that every bit helps. Why do you think moege keep coming? Because moefags buy them.

>>20931932
>>20931933
It's throwing money onto a fire because no amount of support will make up for the fact that the industry is facing issues they can't fix.

âge made over a million dollars on kikestarter and is dying regardless.

>>20931995
You're just trying to justify your own careless attitude. If you legitimately don't have any money that's one thing. Just don't beat around the bush, it's okay to be poor.

>>20931995
>"It doesn't matter, it's going to die anyways!"
>"I wish we were still getting translations. Whatever happened to that?"
Again, this mentality is what kills these types of things.

>>20932002
>>20932008
lmao I never said I don't buy shit, calm the fuck down.
you should buy something because you want to own it, not because you have delusions about a company

>>20932042
>Throwing money at a company that runs on money won't keep that company running

You know, if what we have in those threads are conversations like this, maybe we should've waited until pantheon or something.

>>20932092
It's much easier to find a way to troll a mobage thread, you know.

>>20932092
This is pretty manageable compared to other shit I've seen.

>>20932092
After this thread, it'd probably be better to go back to our monthly format.

>>20922813
>Pantheon scenario
>Ren reads Masada's twitter and realizes he's not getting his nichijou
>Ren snaps and develops the craving “Fuck everything, I want my goddamn Nichijou”
>the universe he writes is a SoL for everyone there
>Ren is the unfortunate harem protagonist, the harem members being the girls with routes + Rusalka
>Mercurius is the creepy NEET stalking Marie
>the LDO are some sort of occult club at school Reinhard founded at Mercurius’ advice
>Hajun is unintentionally some delinquent gang leader, his followers borderline worshiping him no matter how many times he tells them to fuck off and leave him alone
>Mithra is a slutty teacher who inexplicably still has a job after numerous allegations of molesting her students
>Muzan is the most remorseless & Judge Dredd cop in the universe who somehow hasn’t been kicked out for excessive violence
>Satanel is the perfectionist student who nearly hanged himself that one time he got 99/100 on a minor quiz
>The other gods are actually aware but most are too afraid to do anything, aware that disrupting Ren’s Nichijou will result in even deeper cravings, increasing Ren’s power even further
>Their only hope is Shirou, someone too naturally part of Ren's nichijou for him to destroy, who has gone borderline insane from boredom
>It's up to the player to assist Shirou in destroying Ren's nichijou to restore the universe
>Bosses in this scenario are the numerous characters who would genuinely adore being in a peaceful life and thus would protect it
>Trifa the Orphanage owner
>Beatrice and Kai, the overly sweet couple
>Kei, the mathematician

>>20932220
>Kei, the mathematician

>>20931659
>ikabey translation was good and was only translated by steiner
>dies irae was shit and was by steiner and conjou-poo
so it was really conjou-poo fault

>>20932593
>Dies Irae was shit
No it wasn't.

>>20932615
many japanese reader stated that the translation isn't really good

>>20932822
For retarded reasons, yeah?
>Muh nuance
>Muh chuuni atmosphere

>>20932953
yeah, if you want an example of a good translation look at hanachirasu

Wew

>>20933389
Based Chadner

>>20933389
>northman an authority of who's a brainlet and who isn't
Yeah, that's gonna be a yikes from me.

>>20933389
>steiner hasn't changed since is his hani days
You'd expect him to act more professionally given that he's the PR person for light, but no.

>>20933640
That's his personal account

>>20933640
He's not wrong

>>20933640
>Harass a guy wit the same bait constantly
>Not expect a bit of push back

just finished downloading Ikabey, tranks Steiner!

>>20933698
make sure to seed for the rest of us

>>20933701
Make sure to take my seed

>There are some typos here and there, and I think in the picrelated the whole sentence is missing. I honestly don't remember if it was also like that in the original script.

did they actually fixed the grammar and typos in DI already?

>>20933749
>did they actually fixed
Anon, please. But yes, they did release a patch, at least for Aa on Steam.

>>20933389
literally seething at shit sales

/vn/ is a shithole, so I'm coming here

>Is KKK really that difficult to translate ?

>Difficult, but not impossible. Some nuance would absolutely be lost, I think. If I ever get a chance to work on it I'll think harder on it.

looks like the secret project is really not KKK

>>20933917
Anon, it's not like he can just go ahead and say anything that might confirm KKK, it needs a proper announcement.

>>20933917
>steiner
>think

>>20933947
>man how do i translate this use of slang casual speech
>i'll just add swear words into it

Nice. Wonder if they'll just add it as DLC.

>>20934004
I hope our lord and savior steiner releases it before KKK to spoil any plebs that haven't been already

Fuck, after Ikabey I really want to know more about the earliest days of Omega Ewigkeit. Hopefully Pantheon covers that. Also Crowley and others magicians and shit.

>>20934028
>Also Crowley
How can you take a powerbottom seriously?

>>20934028
>Crowley
Thelema is interesting but a bit confusing at times, you can try the Index light novels since thelema is the core of the story or or you can start from the Book of lies and go from there

>>20933952
Swears make everything better

>>20934028
Crowley will be in Pantheon, trust me, I work for Light.

>>20934028
>>20934206
Crowley will be added to pantheon after the Raildex crossover event titled “A Certain Chuuni Nazi”.
Trust me Kamachi works for my dad.

What was with Valeria running off? Was it mentioned why he did that?

>>20934405
That was when he left the LDO to look after some orphans. It was a big part of his backstory in DI.

>>20934004
Probably means the Switch version is coming.

>>20931560
>>20931651
DI is already very niche with some fans in the west, I don't see how Ikabey sells a lot less than DI. Maybe it takes a while, but it should still reach 70% of DI's sales no problem.

>>20934004

>all three best girls in a single image
Fantastic

Even 50 years before she was born and in a game she (presumably) doesn't show up in, the Kei bullying never ends.

Is my memory failing me or was Spinnes relic one of these as well?

>>20935363
It was but it wasn't worth noting because the LDO never saw him use it. He only used it on civilians under cover of night.

add this too to the OP list

http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_kaziklubey/

>>20935355
I don't see Rea in this image though.

With all this discussion about KKK I was wondering: are all the linguistic common and just very chuunui shit or are they actually very novel and ingenious and would set KKK apart as a top tier visual novel or even as a literature piece?

With all this discussion about KKK I was wondering: are all the linguistic and stylistic choices common and just very chuunui shit or are they actually very novel and ingenious and would set KKK apart as a top tier visual novel or even as a literature piece?

Beatrice is a cute Dork !

I'm starting to like this smug fuck.

>>20936370
He's not even all that smug, just completly right

>>20936362
Pft

>>20935775
It's honestly neither? You don't see works that use outdated kanji and Buddhist texts for style points all that often, but that's not really enough to turn Kajiri into a masterpiece. It simply contributes to its overall aesthetic, and since all those elements are basically impossible to translate into English, people tend to overrate them.

>>20937043
>Impossible to translate
Stop this meme

Didn't think I'd actually come to like her as a character

>>20937102
who? is this the new silverio game?

>>20937043
Makes sense, thank you anon.

>>20937207
Not so new anymore, but yes, it's trinity.
>>20937102
Actually, how it is compared to vendetta? I couldn't even force myself through the first route in vendetta, but if tritiny is better I might actually try it again.

>>20937293
I'm liking Vendetta and Trinity more than Dies and KKK, so all I can really say is to each their own

>>20937293
Not him but I found Vendetta lacking and adored Trinity.

>>20937093
>basically
Look, English just doesn't have the words that can imitate writing numbers as 壱, 弐 etc in both meaning and style. The only options you have are either leave the kanji, maybe translating them with ruby text or something (and then have people wondering why you did that), try to find an old-fashioned English analogue (which would sound out of place in Kajiri no matter how you put it), or just ignore this particular stylistic wrinkle. The last option is honestly the most realistic one, and if you go down this particular route for the entirety of Kajiri, it loses a lot of what makes it special.

>>20937480
So what you're telling me is that I need to learn how to read moonrunes to get the full picture?

>>20937572
Unfortunately, yes. Or, at the very least, know when they differ from the standard.

Just finished Ikabey. Very good side story.
KKK when?

>>20937946
Soon (tm)

Been awhile since I've been here, but shit seems wild.
>>20935775
>...would set KKK apart as a top tier visual novel or even as a literature piece?
That's a bit far. KKK's use of outdated kanji, archaic vocabulary, character designs, presentation and all sorts of Eastern myths/stories/etc just adds to the overall aesthetic of it and makes it the one of the most aesthetically pleasing Japanese porn games that I have ever read, and you can be sure a lot of it won't be intact if it gets translated into English.
I remember having this conversation with another anon way back on /vn/. To be honest, it's likely that whoever translates or attempts to translate it will change somethings around so it works better in English, kinda like Reinhard's ber'iah or Ikabey's instances where the narration refers to him as 修羅 though to be fair to be fair to ikabey, I've only seen a few lines since I wanted to see how a few quotes and lines were translated
>>20937293
>Actually, how it is compared to vendetta?
On the whole, I'd say Trinity is better than Vendetta with the exception of Vendetta's route which only gets beaten out by Trinity's true route
>I couldn't even force myself through the first route in vendetta
I don't know what to tell you man, but you're going to have to trudge through Millie's route and it's easily the worst route in the entire game. Chitose's is actually much better in comparison of course, i'd say slightly above average on the whole and Vendetta's was really really good. Unsurprisingly, Vendetta's the only route which Takahama wrote.

>>20938179
Welcome back, Reizen-dono. As you can see, we're in a pretty sorry state here.
>I remember having this conversation with another anon way back on /vn/
I have a feeling that it was me. Well, although almost everything in Kajiri screams "Japanese" (or should I say, Yamato? 葦原の中つ国？Well, you get the point), it still doesn't have things that are absolutely impossible to translate. Of course, it would lose that overwhelming style and consistency of the presentation. But, well, there's simply no other way. I hope that whoever will work on it, would do an actually good job though, and will preserve as much of the original style as possible.

>>20938348
Given the current trend it'll probably be Steiner again.

>>20938370
I'm more inclined to think he's going to be the one to gather a team to work on it, maybe putting himself on it just so he can guarantee everything goes as planned.

>>20937572
yes, which is why people call it untranslateable.

when people say that, what they mean is translating it would arguably have a negative impact on the product, so no translator wants to do it. steiner seems to have no problem with going down that route.

personally I thought about digging out latin or some shit, but it only takes a few seconds to realize that just makes so sense at all for the setting.

>>20939118
obviously can't pull out random other languages either in an attempt to emulate it somehow

>>20939118
Just use old middle english

>>20939118
>personally I thought about digging out latin or some shit
I swear to god, if I see any foreign language other than Japanese, I'm gon' be pissed not really but that's just a really dumb thing to do. on account of how japanese the game is - none of that 外来語 bullshit
>>20939148
To be fair, I'm not quite sure whether anyone is serious anymore, I'm just going to assume this is just a shitpost

>>20939118
>it would arguably have a negative impact on the product
I really doubt it. Sure, it might lose some meaningful things, but in the end, Habaki will still be the same old Habaki, just like the other characters, the fights/kino moments will still be cool and the lore/setting/story will continue being interesting.

https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1098953315373608960
So, what's this about? I've heard some other anon saying it was Masada's subtle way of telling us work on Pantheon has been restarted.

>>20939168
It makes even less sense because other countries exist in KKK.

>>20939209
>Habaki will still be the same old Habaki, just like the other characters
Idk man, one of my biggest criticisms of the translations outside of, you know the parts where they try to out chuuni masada and it comes out weird is the way they overly rely on curse words as a lazy way of tackling casual and slang-like speech

it also reminds me of the early days of anime fansubs

>>20939229
If it is instead of just the literal meaning, you wouldn't get excited anyway because it means he isn't sure this developer will work out. not that he has a reason to after the shitshow.

>>20939295
Honestly, most of the people who read DI won't even notice these things anyways and they'll still have fun with it as it is. Literally as long as characters, plots, fights, and lore isn't changed, people will be satisfied even if it loses a little bit of slang or nuance.

>>20939315
It's less about if the KKK readers of a potential translation would notice and more about if the translator is willing to do it. I sure wouldn't and that other anon seems to not want to do it aswell, steiner seems willing and it's not like anyone can stop him anyway.

Actually, if Steiner is really translating senshinkan, I wonder how Dan's hiroshima-ben would look like.

>>20939315
Don't worry, this is just me being a bitter old man and raising general complaints which are really only relevant if you know the language. Obviously if you don't have any knowledge of Japanese/read the original script my complaints aren't going to mean much. I'd like to think that they're still valid criticisms of the translations and that through someway that'll lead to improvement considering Steiner lurks here and i know the fucker does, show yourself coward and impose your will
But it's mainly me just following my own justice.
>>20939348
Now if that was translated into say something like a southern dialect, that would legitmately make me fume

>>20939331
Honestly I just want it translated in general. If I ever end up learning japanese enough, I'll go back to it. Besides, Steiner has a direct line to Light so if anything, he's in a better position to translate it than anyone else due to that connection.

>>20939377
I'm not going to talk shit about steiner because I haven't read his TLs and I honestly don't care, but that's a dangerous opinion to have because you trust everyone involved to do a good job.

>>20939472
>Aniplex
I mean there's your problem, first and foremost.

Holy shit guys you'll never believe this but Ikabey didn't sell well at all

>>20939514
Eh, I believe it. Visual novels are a niche and Dies Irae is especially niche

>>20939514
Welp, guess the chuuni dream is over now, time to pack it up and go home,boys

>>20939513
I think that anon is referencing to
>Besides, Steiner has a direct line to Light so if anything, he's in a better position to translate it than anyone else due to that connection.
Which is a pretty dumb thing to suggest, official English translations of varying sorts vary wildly when it comes to quality. Just because it's "official", doesn't make it good.

>>20939603
I'm just saying it's in a better position for revisions and reviews on things that may or may not stick than some random anon translating it.

>>20939514
Nooo stop!!!

I'm not all that caught up with the lore and stuff, but I assume even with Pantheon, Rea Route is still canon, right?

>>20940056
Rea route is the canon ending to Dies irae. But for the Shinzaverse, Marie's ending is the canon one.

>>20940056
in the timeline pantheon follows marie route happens, but then marie Is pancaked and gets cucked by rea.

I have no idea how masada will write the triangle in pantheon if it ever comes out, theres no mentions to it in the prologue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ko9gebDgiw
How's this? I found it while looking for PL soundtrack

Is there any translator/japanese second language anons here? As someone who wants to get into learning Japanese, is there any recommended programs to look for for it or will any random program be good?

How does Qliphoth Bacikal possess the ability to drain Bey dry? It's his Ahnenerbe, so does it represent his own craving destroying anything that isn't itself within Wilhelm?

>>20940586
just learn it by yourself and never leave your house again.

>>20939377
>>20939472
I just want it translated too, I don't want script rewrites like the FGO pic but I'd rather them give up on the archaic language and kanji puns then literally never have it translated.

How do you guys feel about the character songs? Personally I think that Thrud Walkure, Einherjar Albedo/Nigerdo and Omega Ewigkeit and Rozen Vamp (and especially Der Vampir) fit their characters pretty well. On the other hand Einherjar Nigerdo and Dies Irae Mephistopheles sound too "classy" and don't convey the menace of the former and the sheer savagery of the latter character very well.

>>20940825
All of them are fantastic IMO
There are plenty of other tracks used for when they what to portray those other aspects anyway, and the poetry of Reinhards theme literally being a remixed version of dies Irae is too good to give up.

Bey is a fucking dick but i love it, also the woman doing the interview the same that went after him in that DI side story ?

>>20940819
well obviously you want it translated, the question is if anyone whos going to spend hours writing the text is satisfied with his results.

>>20940933
No, that woman died 10 years beforehand though Bey mentions at the end that Dinah does remind him of her.

>>20940991
that explains why i mixed them, thanks anon

How would Beri'ah Degree Ren fare against Methuselah? Could Finale take him on?

Vast is the sea, its waves reaching horizons far and wide;
eternal is the radiance of its azure womb.
And so let us ride this moment and dash forth, swift as light, quick as a star eternal.
Hear my plea, and grant this one wish:
the world longs for an era of peace; days that know not strife.
In a world where only peace is lord, and men join hands in liberty…
Allow me to sing but this,
Halt, O time, for thou art fair beyond measure.
I wish upon your unending star – guide me to heights unknown!

Atziluth

Res Novae - Also Sprach Zarathustra

>>20940980
literally the point of my comment is that i'd rather people drop the unending "how do i translate this" and just go for it, yeah missing out on archaic speak and nip puns will be lame but its better then never getting it TLd

>>20941311
>which gary stu would win
Depends who is the protag.

>>20941431
Still the best chant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ow07-2xzg

>>20941431
>english
yikes

>>20940684
That's how all Ahnenerbe work, it's all tools of destruction that feed on human souls and find their host to be the most desirable one. Even Ren had to fight Marie before absorbing her.

>>20940825
The anime does make Nigredo sound much more menacing, though the original is still my favorite Dies song.

>>20941516
>voice filter
nah

>>20941516
The best ones are Soujirou and Shiori though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7aZ20K4rGo

>>20941858
A bit too long and
>never chant together
Still very good I admit.

>>20932953
How are are those reasons not good? They're legitimate reasons that factor into people's experience of things when you remove nuance which is the most important thing when you translate.

>>20941311
Probably not, he's lacking in raw power similiar to Schreiber

>>20932822
Lol, I'm not even defending the translation but taking seriously japanese people talking about what is good english or not is some galaxy brain shit.

>>20940336
Seems alright, and also the only ParaLost translation you'll ever get.

>>20942086
>taking seriously japanese people talking about what is good english or not is some galaxy brain shit

>>20943124
I'm having a stroke

>>20943128
That's not what I was being smug about
I'm a Japanese reader but I'm not Japanese. I also made general criticisms of the translation in the past.

>>20943139
According to /vn/, anyone who knows Japanese and still read the translation is a retard who doesn't actually know Japanese, and so his criticism could be easily discarded.

>>20943175
>According to /vn/, anyone who knows Japanese and still read the translation is a retard who doesn't actually know Japanese
Oh shit bros, I've been exposed

>>20943175
But these people are the only one qualified to have an opinion though?

>>20943124
I don't get it.

>>20939229
>>20939296
Have some GODDAMN FAITH y'all.

To be fair, is probably light's last chance of not fucking up. I still don't know why they don't just hire a couple programmers and do it in-house, maybe they don't wanna share the failure if it flops?

>>20943874
>I still don't know why they don't just hire a couple programmers and do it in-house
Do you understand even the bare minimum of game development?

>>20943895
No, but another anon in the last thread said that if they did this they would've already finished and by light own Works, everything asset wise (VA, art, sprites, script...) is already done, they just need the game itself. Also, mobage probably aren't as expensive to make as AAA shit

>>20943945
You can't just magically learn the skills no one in your company ever had. Visual novels and mobile games are too different to just program one after the other.

>>20944003
gacha games are all written like absolute fucking trash and perform like it. at this rate the game won't even be out by 2021.

>>20943945
>they just need the game itself
but anon that's the most important part, you can't just learn how to do a game and do it especially if you want it to be a commercial success

>gareblogs deleted all his translations, including transcriptions of chants and incantations
for what reason

>>20944157
either A:
he was embarrassed by his older works which had some mistakes
or B:
he got shafted
or C:
something else
B is extremely unlikely

>>20944178
i managed to find it through wayback machine, but still anoying
was the easiest place to find the japanese/german/latin versions of the chants

>>20944157
This is especially weird since the official position is "Feel free to record everything in the base game".
https://twitter.com/DiesOfficialENG/status/1101083044784549888

>>20944186
>was the easiest place to find the japanese/german/latin versions of the chants
Just go on atwiki dude

>>20943874
I have faith, but all this waiting around is painful.

>>20943874
you know how many gacha games of franchises I follow I have seen fail?

and they weren't stuck in dev hell for over 3 years?

>>20944853
As long as is 1 year - 1.5 year and a half I see no point in continuing further. FGO story was supposed to end in that amount of time, but it became a cash cow and you know what happened.

you know after thinking about it I would totally be on board for a DI switch port with the pantheon stuff translated

>>20945532
Just bring that stuff to the PC version. Can't be that hard.

>>20945532
>>20945771
I want you guys to think for a second, just a second. Why would they release the pantheon scenario before releasing KKK?

>bey and claudia debating about god
>mercurius appears
>Lisa despair and considers to sell her soul to the devil
>mercurius appears
i half expected it but it gets me every time and of course snek is just brutal with his words

>>20945917
because itd be a lot faster to translate, with none of that ITS UNTRANSLATE :O shit

>>20944267
googling stuff in japanese is a pain

>>20946643
>just spoil an entire game for a mobage prologue bro

>>20946743
A prologue for a mobage that will never come out no less, though that’s just as much to blame on lights part for bundling it with Dies even though it spoils KKK.

>>20946743
90% if not everyone here has already spoiled themself on KKK, why does it matter

>>20946851
>everyone on this small general has spoiled themselves on it already so why shouldn't light spoil the game for every consumer
Are you just pretending to be retarded or something, or do you actually lack the mental capacity to determine why what you said is stupid?

>>20946869
It's the same anon who wants translators to not pause and think about if what they're releasing is actual up to the standards they set for themselves because he really wants his chicken tenders.

>>20946851
>light's fanbase is only the 50 or so autists from /jp/
I know 4chan does that to you but please, try to maintain your sense of reality.

>>20947135
Given Ikabey's sales, I think it is.

>>20947137
Alright, that made me chuckle.

>>20947135
>try to maintain your sense of reality
But we can't reach the Throne that way.

>>20947137
>the spoilery spin-off prequel of an obscure series of the super niche genre that is VN medium didn't sell 10 hundreds copies
How could that ever happen???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0OnIHWN3s&list=LLJ1VwLfNinhv-zHAwJxzfeA&index=2&t=0s

>>20947341
First half is extremely good, second pard is IDidAMAD.mkv

>>20946869
>>20947135
they can just, ya know, not play it

>>20947341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfwjdwmkSCI&

>>20948019
wait what's up with the CG at 0:47? It's this one but Ren's in his school uniform, I have every CG unlocked and I've never seen this before

>>20947341
>MAD

>>20948019
>>20948035
more interested in that one image at 0:14 with Merc, Ren and Rein. I kind remember seeing it somewhere but I don't have it.

>>20948131
This one?

>>20948131
It was a design for the cover of one of the fanbooks and a Kickstarter exclusive tapestry. Steiner posted a pic of it in his living room once.

>>20948152
>>20948158
Oh yeah thanks, I love it.

How is he so cool?

>>20948204
He's a tortured, miserable soul. Nothing cool about him.

>>20948214
t.ren
Take a chill pill already, Marie is back and Hajun is a pet, so what are you still angry about?

>>20948019
Metaphor is such a good song to put in MAD's.

>>20948035
There are a few CGs that were never used in the final version of the game, like Merc showing some snakes under his garbage bag to Marie.

>>20948019
When does that CG of Kasumi at 00:20-21 appear? I swear to fuck that I see it everywhere but don't remember it actually being in the VN.

oooooooooooo marguerite

>>20948498
I'm about 80% sure that's the promo pic where she's putting on her thigh-highs and you can see her panties.
Don't have it, sadly.

>>20948498
>>20948759
Found it.

>>20948019
This one is really well made

>>20922813
I want to fuck Marie

>>20948930
Back in the garbage where you belong.

>>20948786
Thanks bud.

>>20948930
Will touching marie's vagoo decapitate your penis head too?

>>20949025
>>20949879
How is she so perfect? There is literally no girl that comes close to match her.

>>20949901
Except for Eleonore, Kei, Rusalka, Beatrice, Mercurius, and Rea.

>>20949909
t.gold
Only Rusalka is actual competition.

>>20948366
>like Merc showing some snakes under his garbage bag to Marie.
Anyone got this on hand?

>>20949909
Eleonore is cute ! Cute !

>>20949942
Marie:
> is a metaphorical hunk of rock for much of the story
> needs not one but TWO divine interventions to give her personality and awaken any sort of emotion in her.
> a dumb blonde bimbo who "just wants to hug everyone".
> peasant who was born in the mud
> NEET
> French
> wears a tattered dress like a hobo
Eleonore:
> strong and principled woman
> Came to love Gold all by herself
> Rational but passionate
> Tall redhead with good proportions who just wants to love
> Has a respected job
> Aristocrat of aryan stock
> cool Hugo boss outfit
How can the hunk of metal even compete?

>>20950004
I only got this.
https://twitter.com/YoxalLoyal/status/1041697968015892482

>>20950016
nice love this

Rea:
> part gaijin, and a g*rman at that
> The Big Gay her grandpa has might be genetic
> pathetic short and flat body
> weak
> Idiot savant who can't even fight but knows useless shit like theology and arithmetic
> Her family is awful
> has been abused as a child by a paedo
Best Girl Kei:
> pure nipponjin blood
> Her only family member that we know of is a man of supreme taste and has been groomed for /ss/ by Kei's onee-chan so she must have good taste too and isn't gay
> Ideal yamato nadeshiko figure
> strong
>stands up to Reinhard while all the other LDOfags cower before him.
> Knows many practical skills like fighting and dressing well
> excellent upbringing where she traveled the world and has been tutored by clever people.

>>20950125
I've seen this post before

>>20950125
This image is the only time Kei has been close to what you call best.

>>20950185
Kei is the best out of the heroines.

>>20950244
Yeah...no.

>>20950016
> wears a tattered dress like a hobo
Now this just isn't true anon.
She is, in fact, a hobo.

>>20949942
The fucking universe knows Rea is superior

>>20950270
> used goods
nah

>>20950185
>perfect tits and ass
ren is lucky

>>20950288
This has little to do with your comment but I'm kind-of upset at how at the end of the day (in Rea route) not much has changed for the individual characters. I know that things will be better in the grand scheme of things but some characters that got fucked in Mercurius' Law are still fucked. Schrieber and Wilhelm are still lunatics and Rusalka got raped and executed just to reincarnate into germany to get raped by the soviets. Damn you Marie.

>>20950318
Rea's route basically breaks all of their name curses though.

>>20950352
I did admit that things get better in the long term. But Rusalka still has to endure two miserable lives.

>>20950379
Didn't you play Rea true + Nihil dificile amanti?

>>20950379
Imagine living lots of miserable lives and never seeing the end of it because the dumb goddess says it's going to get better "eventually". Now you know why Hajun is a thing.

>>20950383
> Nihil dificile amanti
Not yet. I will. Soon.

>>20950393
Three other gods agreeing her rule is the best thing that can happen should make you reconsider your opinion I think.

>>20950414
Ah ok, those 2 blend together a lot for me so I don't remember which was in which

>>20950393
Hajun is a thing because Naraka is a big baby and his plan to get Ren on the Throne backfired.

>>20950433
Why would Naraka want Ren of all people on the throne.
Even he himself realizes how stupid it would be for his law to emanate

>>20950425
>the goddess's husband, a cosmic-scale pervert and a manchild think this rule is fine
Yeah, nah, bring down the Throne.

>>20950443
Naraka's sensory, aka one of Shirou's reincarnations, was the cult leader that helped nurture and create Hajun. He wanted Ren to emanate because he found his time as Shirou enjoyable, and thought that having Ren as one of the Heavens would be a better choice than Mercurius' decision. Naraka created Hajun as a weapon that could depose Marie in one quick strike, then he'd be killed by Ren. But he underestimated how high Hajun's power would creep, which resulted in him taking the Throne instead.

>>20950425
Mercurius doesn't care about the universe. He just wants to Marie to end him. Ren thinks Marie is better than Reinhard and himself, but he also thinks that Rea is better than Marie which calls his judgement into question. I don't recall Reinhard expressing any thoughts on the matter other than wanting to ravish Mercurius. He isn't too salty about it all but he doesn't care much about the universe either.

>>20950465
>but he also thinks that Rea is better than Marie which calls his judgement into question
That seems perfectly reasonable though

>>20950462
>was the cult leader that helped nurture and create Hajun.
The two cult leaders are women, you're probably thinking of their enemy. This entire theory kinda contradicts what we learned in the Pantheon scenario.

>>20950466
> Chestlet

>>20950462
?

>>20950472
>cow

>>20950480
The majority of gods prefer cows which means they're better

>>20950462
Is any of this stated somewhere or is it some big theory from jap imageboards?

>>20950541
It's fan theory that's been proven false already.

>>20950515
The majority of Gods prefer dudes which proves bishonens to be superior to both.

I'm currently reading IkaBey but I don't remember what happened in the very end of Rea route.
In Marie's route Marie ends up taking the throne but what happens in Rea's? Does Merc disappear along with the throne while leaving the world as it was (that'd be weird)?

>>20950692
No, Marie gets the Throne in Rea's route as well.

why the fuck does anyone even care about pantheon?
are you guys so desperate for shinza content that you'd eat a fucking trash mobage and sully the purity of a great series?
I don't want to witness another FGO effect

>>20950826
>are you guys so desperate for shinza content that you'd eat a fucking trash mobage
Genuienly yes.

>>20950826
>sully the purity of a great series
ParaLost did that ages ago, we got nothing to lose at this point.

>>20950826
I'm not saying it's all going to be fluff and rainbows, but we've got a lot of reasons to be optimistic about Pantheon not going down the FGO-route.

>>20950623
That's very true.

>>20948256
He lost his nichijou once more

>>20950874
Fucking what?

>>20951404
Either anon is saying the series was never pure, or he's making some kind of Saltman joke.

>>20951427
is that you, bey

https://twitter.com/DiesOfficialENG/status/1103442337324253184

かつて何処かで そしてこれほど幸福だったことがあるだろうか
あなたは素晴らしい 掛け値なしに素晴らしい しかしそれは誰も知らず また誰も気付かない
幼い私は まだあなたを知らなかった
いったい私は誰なのだろう　いったいどうして　私はあなたの許に来たのだろう
もし私が騎士にあるまじき者ならば、このまま死んでしまいたい
何よりも幸福なこの瞬間――私は死しても 決して忘れはしないだろうから
ゆえに恋人よ 枯れ落ちろ
死骸を晒せ
何かが訪れ 何かが起こった 私はあなたに問いを投げたい
本当にこれでよいのか 私は何か過ちを犯していないか
恋人よ 私はあなただけを見 あなただけを感じよう
私の愛で朽ちるあなたを 私だけが知っているから
ゆえに恋人よ 枯れ落ちろ

>>20951651
inb4 it's the vita version which is almost 2 years late

>>20951658
https://feen.us/7kw5be3v0udmkxy3clu365oetkus202y8d3hybeik4g1mr9swi.mp3

>>20951670
>Vita version on a discontinued hand-held
God I hope now

>>20951718
*not

>>20950826
Marie comes back.

>>20950826
this >>20951833

Once again Dies Irae has managed to get me emotional to the point of tears over a bunch of literal nazis.
First the DI epilogues and now Ikabey, bravo.

>>20951970
>Once again Dies Irae has managed to get me emotional to the point of tears

>>20951996
>he doesn't find a bunch of nazis drinking in a bar emotional

>>20951970
They're not really Nazis though. It's plainly obvious that none of them give a shit. That aside, they're all surprisingly relatable and likeable, each in their own way.

>>20952002
can't say that it was enough to move me to tears though

>>20948366
I guess a better question is how did the dude get the full quality CG for it? Guess he bought the art book and scanned it idk

>>20952002
That's not the best example imo, it was more a happy wholesome scene
Omnia vincit amor though, that shit killed me

When Shinpu-san said to Marie that his real body was in a far away castle, Did he meant Gladsheim or a literally far away castle?

>>20952564
That's a good question. On one hand the obvious answer is Gladsheim because after Eleonore shatters the Divine Vessel his soul finds its way to his real body in Gladsheim. On the other hand physical bodies are not relevant in Gladsheim since the whole point is that it's a world of the dead and the dead don't need their original bodies. But then again why would the LDO bother keeping Trifa's original body? It's not like Mercurius gives a shit and Rusalka has no reason to do it.

>>20950185
Where does this image come from? Research purposes obviously

Last for Kei. I'll be your friend

I want to fuck Marie

Reminder that Kai>Methuselah

>>20952638
It's a zoomed in wallscroll. There is one Marie and Rea but I don't think there are hq non-sampled versions of them besides Kei's.

>>20952822
Methuselah is an annoying gary stu.

>>20953424
>t.

>>20953424
He's right about Hegemony though

>>20953433
Finally found what that image makes me think of.

>>20950433
>>20950462
That's fucking stupid, Ren taking the Throne is arguably worse than freaking Hajun, once he emanates the universe will stay the same for literal eternity preventing even a Satanel/Snake scenario from happening.

>>20953659

>>20953702
He's just shitposting

>>20952638
>>20953420

>>20954083
Marie....