/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Just ordered a new mouse so I should be able to click on anki menus more quickly and accurately.

>>20880856
imagine unironically spending hours trying to understand the concept of "でも" instead of just reading enough that you see all the ways its used and just understanding it by doing that
also op dont make the new thread so fast i couldnt get to an ero scene in time to nut and now i have to lurk djt instead of reading :/

>>20880873
ugh dude it would literally take a fucking YEAR of non stop reading to absorb all those meanings. it's better to just look at this image

>>20880873
you could just read all the points on that list and it explains it fine tho lol

why do people make it sound like learning grammar points is actually difficult and somehow can't be explained/understood through simple explanation lol

でもわたしはゲイ

>>20880873
if you learned nihongo you couldnt complain about how hard basic grammar is
i get what youre sayin but as for watashi i cant finish if djt isnt up

So now that I can read hiragana 9/10 times and kata 3/10 and I know some basic vocab, I'm gonna try moving on. My plan is

>Playing Lingodeer like a game and not taking it seriously, take some notes on some interesting things
>Start replacing the mumble rap in my playlist with jap rap
>Daily Aniki practice and taking notes
>Grinding the radicals after I'm comfortable with kata
>Study Tae Kim while taking notes three times a week for several hours at a time till I'm finished
>Add nhk news web easy to my RSS feed
>Start reading yotsubato with the reading
>Eventually move on to other easy vns, lns and manga
>Move on to more advanced grammar guides?

Anything I should do differently so I don't waste my time? Also recs on japanese rappers? Some neo soul and r&b would be cool too.

>>20880891
im not the one complaining about hard basic grammar idk wtf you're on about buddy

>>20880877
a YEAR, oh my god. I have been studying for two so that is not really a problem. You will suck after a year no matter what. Just read like me to get the thickest japanese prowess.

>>20880900
>a YEAR, oh my god. I have been studying for two so that is not really a problem.
to understand fucking でも? that's long as fuck. i'll take the short and easy route here.

>>20880910
jap grammar is pretty easy. i say after 1 year of consistent reading you will have a solid grasp of all grammar not just demo. No need for any more study than a 2 hour skim of old tay tays guide. good luck studying when you could be reading.

>>20880895
the yous in my first line refer to a hypothetical individual who is described by your first line

>>20880892
Sounds terrible and boring. have you considered learning japanese instead?

>>20880815
how do i fuck one of those gyaru sluts

>>20881017
https://vndb.org/g2403

Thoughts on Minna no Nihongo for grammar? As far as courses available to review on Memrise go it looks decently put together. I've been trying Tae Kim so far but it doesn't feel very intuitive with how many different kanji it uses for its examples in every new lesson.
https://www.memrise.com/course/95191/minna-no-nihongo-i-grammar/

man it's getting kind of exhausting with how stupidly dense kou is pretending to be.
even more painful is that aki is clearly best girl but she just has to be his second cousin so it's sin

>>20881066
>second cousin so it's sin
No, that's okay in most countries.

>>20881054
It's probably not bad and will eventually get you there
That said I think it's a waste of time to spend a long time on a grammar guide and you should just get used to seeing kanji as quickly as possible anyways

>>20881075
I'm already grinding out kanji using KanjiDamage and Memrise daily, and I've been learning with that for a few months now. I wanted to add learning grammar on top of that.

>kanjidamage and memrise
they'll never learn

>>20881066
>second cousin
Seems like you misread Baldr Sky already. Sorry buddy, since it's such an easy game, it seems you can't learn Japanese.

>>20880892
surprisingly the more i planned out my future the more likely I was to give up. here's a simple plan:
learn kana
read tk
consume compelling content

>>20881106
>はとこ
i don't know what you think you're playing at by getting me to respond with this

>>20881094
Anki's UI is shit, it doesn't have automatic revision timing like Memrise, it only has a basic card answer format instead of Memrise's three different answer formats, and for no reason at all it also demands both my computer and phone be set to the same online time setting for me to be allowed to sync them and use them, which is a personal nuisance as my work clocks use a different time. If there are alternatives to Memrise that offer the same features I'd be happy to know about them but I've never seen Anki's appeal.

she's so fucking cute bros...

>>20881118
Had you been reading carefully you would have noticed that the 再従兄弟 title is a mere formality, and they aren't actually blood related at least, you can't tell they are by this point. Also, there is an Aki route on Dive2 (with even more incest than you can predict right now!) so rejoice, shounen.

>>20881138
mm i mean i got that kou was adopted into their family after his mom died but i just kind of assumed that. why else would they bring him into their family?
that having been said i'm such a slow reader that that info may have been merely forgotten considering i'm about 55 hours deep and still not done with rain route
definitely looking forward to dive2 though.

>>20881133
is she into femdom

>>20880892
You forgot 10000 hours of anime

https://my.mixtape.moe/volqqr.mp4

>>20880892
>Anything I should do differently so I don't waste my time so I don't waste my time?

You forgot one thing to include and this is
>what do you want to do with Japanese?
Do you want to just watch some Anime, or do you want to play Japanese games, or do you want to be "fluent" in Japanese?

I just assume you want to be fluent in Japanese (which just means you want to understand everything you read/hear).


What you can do (much) better:
>LEARN RTK
I know it sounds retarded, but either you go through the suffering of RTK or you will quit Japanese anyway. Also remember how to use rtk right. First you see the meaning of the Kanji like "black", then you try to remember your story, then you should know the primitives like in this case "computer" and "flames", and only then you should know the Kanji (in this case 黒). NEVER EVER learn from Kanji to its meaning. If in doubt read Heisig's explanation. But it's important to not learn the other way, if you want to know why, just read Heisig's guide.

After you know RTK:
>playing Lingodeer
Not bad, you have to pay for it though, but it's the best learning app right now. Textbooks are still much better though, but as a "game" Lingodeer is pretty good.
>replacing rap
it doesn't hurt, so why not
>using Anki
You have to use Anki for RTK and for new words from textbooks (which are in most cases already pre made without wasting time creating cards) or any other book you read. There is no better way to learn new words.
>grinding radicals
LEARN RTK. You learn all radicals (and fake radicals) and also learn every kanji.
>study Tae Kim
I prefer other textbooks like Genki or nihongo e youkozo. And I would even advice to learn Tobira before reading Tae Kim, because Tae Kim is bitching a lot about textbooks and only if you know textbooks you can easily understand how to improve.
>add nhk news
I thinks it's much better to just use textbooks which are tailored to teach you in the most logical way (all textbooks can be downloaded for free in OP's links anyway).
>move on to vns, Ins and manga
you can always try to read vns. It's even recommended that you not only learn with Anki and textbooks but also do whatever you like between your normal learning sessions. Sure, the first years you will not understand much, but if you really invest time in learning the language you will improve reading vns and other things.
>move on to more advanced grammar
The best thing about textbooks is you learn the most important grammar in the most logical order (sure, Tae Kim will shit on MUH FAKE ORDER if you use "normal" textbooks, but learning grammar is not hard, the hardest part are Kanji anyway).

There is only one group of people who can avoid textbooks and those are people who have a teacher (or really know the language perfectly). Textbooks are mandatory if you really want to understand the language. Also even if you go the
Genki I/II
-> Integrated approach to intermediate Japanese
-> Tobira
-> authentic Japanese progressing from intermediate to advanced
way, you still have to learn after this without textbooks (because after this you know pretty much everything you have to know). After this you won't waste time anymore, because you know how the language works and you know the best and fastest way to progress on your own.

But if you think textbooks are worthless, you will come back in a few months, because you have quit Japanese. Every person who learns without textbooks (or without teacher) is doomed to quit. NO ONE can help you as good as textbooks (at least not for this cheap).

Everything you said (except Anki) is just a bonus to improve your language, but at the start you really need RTK and textbooks to tell you what Japanese even is (Japanese is a language. NEVER learn a language without guide, you will just waste your time).

If you think you can skip textbooks, you would be the first person I have seen (even on the internet) who could learn Japanese without either quitting or stuck in the "smug nihongo ga dekinai" anime girl meme world.
Even Matt is stuck in the never ever world, because he refused to use textbooks. He now blames the "pitch accent" for his failure, but if you see his "skills" you realize, that the problem is not his meme accent, it's because he has trouble with grammar and vocabulary (a consequence of using AJATT and meme+1, because you will learn bad habits without textbooks and you always try to go the easy route with AJATT and any other useless meme
bullshit). This is the way all people end without guide, where textbooks are right now the best.

>>20881207
sounds retarded

>>20881207
this post is cancerous and should be deleted

>>20881207
reddit臭い

imagine doing something other than reading high tier lit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kt8HP1VEPU

>>20881207
imagine spending this much time to say absolutely nothing of worth

>>20881133
Don't forget to read Dive X after you're finished with Dive 2. I've never seen it mentioned around here, so I assume lots of people skip it.
It's an omake/fandisc that adds some short stories, along with new gameplay content that lets you control any character in the game in battles, even the last boss.
The most important story being a prequel that tells you what happened between the end of school and up to the beginning of Dive 1. How Kou became soldiers together with Rain, how they traveled around the world chasing the remnants of Drexler co. and finally ended up in the battle where the game starts.

It's perfect for sating that feeling when you're finished with the game and want more.

>>20880892
Consume as much media as possible and don't listen to any of this >>20881207 crap

Plenty of you "made it" without studying RTK, right? I look at vocab only and I feel just fine about kanji so far.

>>20881244
that sounds pretty damn cool for sure gonna read
any idea if the games after this are good? ive heard awful things about baldr bringer but the mc apparently being a full-on robot entices the /m/fag in me

>>20881269
RTK doesn't cover anything of value anyway. You will see the first 2000 Kanji and hundreds of words and remembering them will be easy as fuck. The really challenge is between approaching 3000 and approaching 4000 Kanji.

>>20881269
Your good as long as you do not use apps, anki, rtk, textbooks, manga, and translation. just watch animes either raw or nip subbed and read real books. vns and lns are border, but i will allow them.

>>20881207
>but learning grammar is not hard
why do people say this. my biggest problem is losing track of what's happening in medium/long sentences.

>>20881281
after you learn 2000 kanji it's easy as fuck to remember new ones as you encounter them. don't worry you'll get there eventually I'm sure.

>>20881289
vns are BY FAR significantly longer and often more complex than "real" books

>>20881303
the more you read, the more you'll be able to understand them. also the best way to get into that is not to run away. i shied away from haruhi for a long time but when i finally sat down and made myself read it, it ended up being pretty comprehensible

>>20881306
I know almost 3000 Kanji though.
蜻蛉
鸚哥
Can you read these? You bitch.

>>20881207
>>LEARN RTK
>go through the suffering of RTK
>remember how to use rtk right
>After you know RTK
>You have to use Anki for RTK
>LEARN RTK.
>at the start you really need RTK
how much nihongo have u read

>>20881317
first one is tonbo, never seen the second (maybe inko?) but I'm sure I'll remember it after seeing it now lol

>>20881271
I only played the first two routes of Baldr Heart, and I just lost interest. I'm planning to play through it again soon, just because Sky is probably my favorite VN and maybe it gets better later. I didn't try Bringer yet.

But Heart was quite a disappointment. What made Sky good was the contrast between the carefree school days and the gritty, dystopian future. Without spoiling more than the first chapter or so, in Heart the protagonist is a soldier that joins a school undercover. All the girls feel like classmates from a generic moe game, since they are all fairly inexperienced or immature schoolgirls. It just doesn't have the weight of Sky, it feels like you're playing around and going on class trips.
Sure, things get serious by the end of a route and there's drama too, but nothing on the level of the constant gloom of the aftermath of Gray Christmas in Sky, for example.
The routes are much shorter too and there's far less character development.

>>20881310
yes they are longer and may have more action happening, but they are poorly written otaku bait. The ideas they tackle are always pseudo intellectual tier and they never touch on the human condition at nearly the same level. You sound like the type of person who complains that "boring" books like catcher in the rye are taught in school and harry potter should be read instead.

There is nothing wrong with reading them, but they are not more complex than real books on any level other than superficial.

>>20881341
VNs feel so good because of first person immersion into the story. Reading a book leaves you far more detached.

>>20881341
wew
sweeping generalisations aboard!

>>20881341
you're comparing the trash of medium A to the feast of medium B
read better VNs

>Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar doesn't cover all of N1
I'll never make it.

>>20881362
grammar is like the easiest thing to learn tho. i studied all of n1 grammar a couple of weeks before the test and got an A for that section

Is there a name for when someone pronounces a combination like しゃ as sya, or spells it out like so?

>>20881368
romaji

>>20881375
I know there was a specific word, and this wasn't it.

>>20881355
>>20881354
>>20881346
I am not saying vns are bad just that they are not on the same level as true literature.

It is like comparing a local dj to daft punk, the local dj may be good but daft punk is just at a completely different level.

>>20881382
日本式ローマ字

>>20881384
lol your comparisons are garbage. low iq motherfucker thinks catcher in the rye and daft punk are at the height of their medium.. daft punk were decent producers 20 years ago and were never really djs

i did anki without fucking with rtk
ask me anything

>>20881384
Then you clearly haven't read truly well-written VNs like France Shoujo or KKK, or cannot comprehend them because of your low level of Japanese.

>>20881394
what's your favorite color

>>20881398
kurojin

あたしは死にたいんじゃないです

>>20881392
Catcher in the Rye and Harry Potter are at about the same level of sophistication, and I'm not exaggerating.

>>20881390
this also wasn't it

>>20881392
>>20881395
I genuenly can not wrap my brain the idea that you guys are convinced that text based video games aimed otakus with an anime art style is better than classics that have continued to be praised for decades to even centuries.

Also I never said catcher in the rye is the height of lit, it is just what anti intellectuals usually target with being boring. I liked it but my fav is prolly lolita or 痴人の愛 .

also daft punk is absolutely top tier electronic musicians.

>>20881429
go read inganock and don't come back until you're finished

>>20880892
Manga isn't reading

Sure is pleb central in here.

>>20881429
Come back after studying for 30 years when you can finally comprehend the greatness of writing like this. Western trash is no match for some of the better VN writers.

>>20881429
im not defending vns as art, im just saying your taste is garbage. daft punk is undoubtedly the harry potter of electro. you know they have just as many fans as jk rowling lol? why pretend that you have good taste in art when you just like the same popular entry level shit that everyone else does lol

>>20881439
saved it to read 30 years later senpai

>>20881429
>classics that have continued to be praised for decades to even centuries
oh so what you're saying is that 100 years from now when people are still discussing subahibi it'll be certified "equally legitimate" as catcher in the rye?
imagine writing a post like "ppl have liked this 1 thing for a long time" and then writing a time-based comparison relating it to a medium that hasn't even existed for more than what 30 or 40 years

>>20881448
than what is high tier electronic?

People always shit on peoples taste but never mention what is supposedly good.

>>20881426
rye is at least well written and not in the dreaded 3rd person.

>>20881484
there's no point in trying to educate you because you're obviously just a low iq pleb that gets baited into liking any catchy pop music. please continue to get your music from the top 100 charts and talk shit about how you have better taste than other people lol

>>20881439
I hope, one day, at least, I will learn. This image probably wont be here for me then, though.

>>20881439
there's nothing impressive about this. needlessly descriptive and doesn't flow well at all

>>20881498
Reading posts like this makes me wish that i could debate this without having hear one point and filling out a captcha every time. I feel we agree on most things but this format does not support that. Also my nonthreatening good looks usually calms autists.

I used daft punk as i assumed everyone has heard them and they are universally loved. I mostly listen to japanese metal and city pop.

sorry for offending you perhaps. but I am correct and you would agree with me given the right context.

>>20881484
You should at least educate yourself on the history of electronic music before you embarrass yourself on the internet like that. Have you even heard of people like Juan Atkins, Derrick May or Ron Hardy?

Visual novels are an extremely niche medium that has only been around for a few decades. If anything, they're much closer to genre fiction than "literary fiction": would you be surprised if posters on a sci-fi discussion board held Neal Stephenson in higher regard than Virginia Woolf? Would you try to convince them that they're actually wrong and teach them about "true literature"?

>>20881560
Speaking of sci-fi, Asimov's works are also better than 99% of the classic meme shit.

>>20881560
no i would embrass them, then gently kiss them on the forehead and whisper 「大丈夫」 into their ear.

I don't really like fantasy, sci fi is ok, horror is slightly above ok, but i usually like literary fiction which feature romance, and dark themes.

>>20881560
senpai...

>>20881133
can you read this vn and skip the rpg gameplay or is it required to move on

>>20881538
>I am correct
Yeah, just like this guy >>20881207

lowercase posters are somehow so much better than the pseuds & autists who post in here. thank God for jamal

>>20881619
caps is caring and caring is dangerous

>>20881317
蜻蛉 is on the list from Wikipedia in the top 1,000 words.

>>20881196
>>20881247
Already done. Most of my vocab comes from anime and vidya.

>>20881207
I still don't understand what separates rtk from 2k/6k and radical decks. If I'm gonna use aniki anyways, whats supposed to make it more efficient?
>text books
I'm not opposed to text books at all, but Tae Kim is the one I see recommended everywhere and I figure if I can at least read basic sentences while I'm learning from textbooks, it'll speed up the process.

Riddle me this, DJT: why would you go in a thread of self-described otaku, people who literally don't give a single flying fuck about mainstream media of any form, and try to convince said individuals that their clicky click video game books are inferior to classical (paper) literature? Can you not see how asinine that is?

dekinai here
how to not give up

basically a beginner, which textbook should i do: genki or japanese in mangaland?

what's the difference in the context of cooking?

>焼く
>炊く
>炒める
>燃やす

>>20882051
read something compelling

>he doesn't know what 「きょう」means

きょうはふらいでえ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6NLFkGdIww

Does ジャマール先生 live somewhere in Japan, or in Los Angeles?

>>20882190
state your thoughts more clearly

この車は日本語の車です

いやホンダやろ

ユダヤ人は悪魔で、とても怖いです

i wanna be nihonjin

your secrets safe with us matt

おはようございます
今日はもっともっとがんばりましょう！

>>20882340
アングロサクソン出て行け

おうべいじん

あなたたちはころしすぎる

ダメ

>>20882224
あんた運転できないね

Will I be able to get games with JP interfaces by switching my store region to JP?

>>20882224
それはも車ではない

>>20882522
あるあるすぎる

おまくに

Why are there so many single-kanji words read with onyomi that I never see. Why do both 幸 and 幸運 exist? Is the latter just more formal?

is there any japanese rap that doesn't suck lol

>>20882834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M

>>20882853
なかなかいいじゃねーか

don't even bother learning this language if you don't know anything about the culture, you fucking weebs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L343dzWizmk

haha yea・・

>>20882899
kemono fabric

>>20882899
this is what motivated me to learn japanese. i hope i can become half the disciple of japan that hyde-san is.

>tfw you just realised that you've written more than 40k kanji characters on paper already thanks to RTK
I feel a lot stronger already.

>>20881589
you can set the game to super easy and btfo everything easily, battles are also pretty few and far between at least on the first route.

just fuckin do a nice combo in the mecha robo battle and make the girls wet for ur abilities

>>20882771

>>20883092
i mean agreed but most conversations i see abt the game advocate for just running away and spamming guns
bringin a ton of shame to senseis name, its cooler to hit them into the air and then land the midair heel drop

>>20883031
How many kanji can you read though?

>>20883139
1007.

>>20883131
like finishing a sick combo in melty blood u understand

i cant respect any runner

>>20883139
what does it mean to be able to "read a kanji"? know a single reading?

加減 is quite possibly the most frustrating word in the Japanese language.

why

>>20883206
Because it has too many different meanings and uses.
There's also:
いい加減

so in other words its the most frustrating word because u dont know japanese

obligatory いい加減にしろ

>>20883195
>>20883215
Watch more anime and it's easy

>>20883353
i've watched 10000 hours of raw anime and i still don't get it

>>20883351
do u not see how much he cares for his nintendo dude how could be so cruel

>>20883437
you don't know japanese if you can't read that

>>20883463
Can you transcribe it for me?

>>20883328
水につけてしまってもうしわけございません。もうほどというもいっしょだった3DSとあえないかくごをしたいと思います。これから水とうのふたをちゃんと、しめるように、くじがけます。本当にもうしわけなりませんでした。

>>20883470
here I'm too lazy to add all the random commas to it tho

水にかけてしまってもうしわけございません。もうぼくといつもいっしょにいた3DSとあえないかくごをしたいと思います。これからは、水とうのふたをちゃんとしめるよう心がけます。本当にもうしわけありませんでした。

maybe if u guys do fusion dance with those 2 posts u might get it all right

oh yea it was つけて I was just doing that from memory as I'm writing on my phone. lol @ くじがけ tho

>>20883536
should be しめるように as well, I hare typing Japanese on phone keyboards for some reason I always mistype more than English

Banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDXReZXvEyo

>>20883627
yea that one is pretty good

First leech I ever got. Hope it doesn't become a trend. Always found adverbs more difficult to learn than other things

>>20883664
I've gotten a ton of leeches. Doesn't really matter. I keep reading and eventually I remember them.

>>20883664
I find it helps if you learn the kanji too 咄嗟に

bangerzか・・

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_BB1TNCpHw

>>20883742

>>>/v/452076713

>>20883757
Bait.

>>20883755
i mean u can try to read whenever but its not really gonna start workin out till uve unlocked the ani 10k w. eng subs achievement

>>20883844
then it takes like 5 years to learn katakana

>>20883911
>Month 7 and I still don't read

>>20883911
katakana is a noob trap don't worry, you can look it up on an as you go basis

>>20883926
doesn't this prove that anki is superior to reading

>>20883961
ヱ is just エ with an extra stroke. bam.

>>20883964
everyone knows it is. some people are just lying to themselves so they have an excuse not to do something that might not be enjoyable

*memorizes which dick bulge belongs to which anime character by putting them all in anki*

>>20883964
no it proves that anon is a brainlet, give me a break

>>20884000
Don't ignore the に. It's not "face is coming out" but it "goes out to your face". In other words, I can see it on your face (what you're thinking, etc).

>>20884034
Alright this is legitimately scaring me enough to reread some grammar guides because I've been reading for a few months now and I guess reading is not properly enforcing the basics.

>>20884048
>>20884033
stop posting dekinai shill

i had a dream someone in this thread told me to post a vocaroo of me saying the current time in japan and I said the current time in my time zone stuttering and got told i dont know nihongo

>>20884076
big mistake

>>20884046
Admittedly I took a 2-3 month break in the middle but other than, been reading every day.

I will be using the anki core 6k deck for vocab review, hopefully I'll finish this within 2-3 months at about 50-70 new words daily. Since this deck has a lot of vocab (and thus a lot of kanji), I'll most likely be able to recognize kanji vocab and read, right? Many people say they could start reading light novels (with some difficulty) around the 2k mark and fairly comfortably / enjoyably after finishing the 6k deck.

かけろおおおおおお !!!!!!!!!

>>20884355
taekim has better explanations and example sentences but its literally worthless past N4, maybe some of the early N3 stuff.
Imabi extend all the way to N1

Honestly though, they are both free just use both lmao. i usually check all the sources i can find when learning a new grammar point

>>20884348
Seriously, what is it? This nigga >>20881207 mentions it (meme+1), and I've seen it in the guide.

guys i've been reading every day for three years and i still don't know kana i don't think reading works

>>20884418

>>20884384
based

>>20884540
matts a dumb kisama sonofabitch that hates all otaku media and thus shouldnt be trusted as a path to otaku media
>people only hate XD I'M BUILDING LE WALL tard ironically
oof

>>20884545
3/4 responses said he's good and you ask "which is it?" fuck off you stupid fucking shitposter.

>>20884534
I see, you're really not recommending it.

>>20884545
theres no conflict theres just retards who say whatever choose whatever u want to believe its what most ppl do anyway

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0RYPh6WwowD

https://streamable.com/l6h0h
https://streamable.com/f43ix
https://streamable.com/qemt9
the muramasa vid lmao
https://streamable.com/yr6fm

>>20884617
And what's wrong with that?

>still no deathpoint addon

>>20884651
It's shit nihongo without keigo.

>>20884686
I did, not being polite enough isn't the same as being bad at japanese.

>>20884664
やっていられない

>>20884715
an impolite japanese guy knows what he's doing. Matt was just trying to show off and didn't even realise he was making a social faux pas

>>20884715
incapable of doing it =/= capable of doing it but not doing it.

I once said そっちこそ instead of 君も to a native japanese and he's said it can be perceived as an insult by Japanese people.

>>20884777
he just lacks self awareness, which is common for people with gigantic egos, he's clearly not actually autistic

>>20884760
you're not tired of your retarded as fuck argument that matt must not know how to be polite because he wasn't polite or that his not being polite means he doesn't know japanese?

how many hours have you guys wasted talking about matt in this thread instead of learning japanese or doing literally anything else

>>20884813
i'm just checking this thread during breaks in my reading
i can't learn japanese 12 hours a day

u can just give me the money and leave and i wont do anything for u hows that sound

>>20884848
big yikes

>>20884868
>after dolly betrayed me itd be good revenge
what did he mean by this

only problem is i dont know that i could top this or even complete the video without constantly jacking off

https://streamable.com/nb6zm

>>20884903
>>20884849
>>20884868
What do you think Cure Dolly's speech impediment is?

I once had a friend who had a little brother who was born without a roof of the mouth.
They sewed it together afterwards. He sounded the same way. This condition is not that rare, I've seen several children with it

i dont think they have 1 honestly

i think its a combo of doing some kind of voice + post processing

俺の出立ての糞を食べさせてあげるぞ

how much does the MDF get paied per post?

A bit tired of doing anki every day. I have limited time to study japanese (like 4 hours) and anki takes like 3 hours. The remaining hour is for playing videogames. I feel it has been really effective but I yearn for the day when I would only need 30 mins or 1 hour of anki and 3 hours of immersion. Thankfully on April 30 I end doing new cards, so I see the light

>>20885168
あー、なんと素晴らしい臭い！ありがとういただきます！

>>20885205
ありがたくいただきますでしょー

>>20885199
you'll never be done doing new cards

>>20885199
that's so autistic dude god bless your immortal soul

Gonna shove those Genki books up my bum after realizing they aren't half as good as I thought

>>20885199
this is a reddit post right
how the fuck does your anki take three hours

rtk is pretty good

>>20885220
You are right, did not account for that.
>>20885240
Vocabulary, grammar and kanji reviews take like 1 hour. Then from 45 minutes to 1 hour doing new grammar with the DOJG deck. After that like 30 to 40 minutes of new vocabulary cards and finally 20 to 30 minutes for new kanji (currently learning the RTK 3)

minna genki ? lol

>>20885280
that's a big yikes from me but good luck son

aiyoo

>>20885287
genku nai

>>20885287
hai, tottemo genki desu. (honto wa warui ga genki datte itta)ww

>>20885199
>I have limited time to study japanese (like 4 hours) and anki takes like 3 hours
i tell you nerds not to overdose and look what you do
youre irresponsible you cant be trusted with it
no more anki for you you cant handle anki
just fuckin read some eroge the fuck is your problem

ok bros tell me how to study japanese during my free time
i have like 3 free hours a day
i need to
do anki
rtk
get off on japanese cartoons

i finished my first light novel and i gotta say i don't think this semen slurping language is for me

going to try to read big boy novels instead

not gonna make it but gambare

Start with the most important and use whatever time is left for the rest. First get off to big tiddies mum porn (english subbed of course). Second watch the remainder of your 10000 hours. Thirdly read. Secret step 0 is move to japan and skip all this weeb shit and work 80 hours a week.

>>20885365
If you're learning Japanese to read novels, damn do I feel sorry for you. Should have gone for russian, french, or german

After the DOJG is there another grammar guide that goes beyond? Preferably in Japanese. What level do you reach after completing and assimilating the 3 DOJG? N3 grammar?

>>20885404
i already speak french and german

novels are the only thing in japanese media that i find interesting

also murakami doesn't look much harder than a light novel (probably because he's a colossal hack) so i'll start there

murakami is about as mainstream as it gets so if u like mainstream tripe in other languages maybe ull like him as well

>>20885474
hey hi there are you calling someone a hack before even reading their work cuz if so just stop before you even crack that shit open and reevaluate the way you approach media

i'm not gonna pretend his works great but it's at least interesting and fun to read

I found myself enjoying Japanese variety shows, and of the "trivia" genre, like マツコの知らない世界, 教えてもらう前と後, ハナタカ, and ガッテン far more than anime or real-life drama. Clearly then I'm far too normie for /jp/.

>>20885467
if you have all three assimilated you're easily at N1 in terms of grammar
the third one has a lot of obscure shit

>>20885483
its ok every1 heres a normie compared to me and i post rap vids (not so much lately) lol

>>20885482
i read most of his books in english and i'm not impressed

but i'd rather read murakami than more manga and lns

>>20885474
if you dont actually like the media dont learn the language
looking forward to you complaining that novels are shit too

>>20885280
>Vocabulary, grammar and kanji reviews take like 1 hour
How many cards are there for each reviews? I remember setting it so I have 70 new cards per day for an RTK deck, and I'll get up to ~300 cards to review, and that doesn't take an hour. Do you have really dense cards?

I mean, learning 70 new cards do take me ~70 minutes, but they're new, not reviews.

>>20885494
languages are shit

can't wait till we either develop error-free telepathy or die

>>20885485
Currently studying the 3rd one. These three dictionaries are a godsend. Whenever I see a pattern I already studied with DOJG I feel my nipponese is progressing bit by bit

>>20885506
They are quite good
Realistically there really isn't much that you can come across that's not in these books, outside of dialects maybe

>>20885506
How are you studying them? The anki deck for HoJG is literally just a section of them and I can feel already that I'm not gonna memorize the dictionary.

Do you just read them cover to cover?

>>20885495
I get like 300~ cards of vocabulary, that takes like 30 mins. The real time consumer is grammar review. I get like 25-30 cards to review and with each card I try to write a simple sentence with said grammatical term

About 10 months ago, I began the process of learning Japanese. It has not been a straight forward process at all, but my biggest regret was wasting the first 3 months of my studies following the advice from this site:

https://nihongoshark.com/learn-kanji/

The TL;DR of this massive article is that the author suggests NOT learning the kun'yomi or on'yomi, stroke order, or even examples containing the kanji. Instead, you learn the English meaning of each word and some clever story to remember each kanji, WITH NO OTHER STUDY AT ALL!

What a massive waste of time. I spent somewhere around 50 days doing this, and at one point, I realized I was supposed to know over a 1000 kanji. Of course, in the article, it suggests doing this before doing ANY OTHER STUDYING! So I hadnt done anything else at all. So I decided to go and peak and find some books in Japanese, and realized that I could not read, or even vaguely understand a single. Fucking. Part. Sure, I recognized a bunch, but what fucking use is that? ESPECIALLY when I figured out that combining kanji can make completely different words. So I spent an hour (or more) a day. For 50 days. Learning absolutely nothing at all.

So I got super burnt out and stuck my toes in the water every once in a while but I never got super committed to anything for fear of wasting massive amounts of time again.

A month ago, I really hopped on the train again and started looking through the Genki textbooks and the guidetojapanese to grammar guide and began learning kanji in its whole (along with Duolingo!), stroke order, usage, examples, kun'yomi, on'yomi, the whole shin dig.

Ive learnt so much more with far less studying and memorization. Lots of it just makes sense and sticks, its barely memorization at all. And Im remembering the kanji better by learning its stroke order! Which the author in that article claims is an awful way to learn! It feels so good being able to actually write the kanji I see, and knowing how to pronounce it when I see it!

I mean, is it mildly convenient that the kanji is kind of familiar to me? I guess. But I should not have been doing what that article advised alone at the very least.</wbr>

>>20885535
>I just hope those people who are in the beginning of learning like me and trying to figure things out DO NOT follow this article, like me.
I followed this article for my first 3 months and did not get burnt out at all, now I'm even reading novels and watching variety shows and shit. So experiences differ.

I do agree that stroke order is fucking good, though. People should learn more of that. 戈 is especially precious to me for the ability of the top horizontal line to just penetrate into the strokes of other radicals, like in 我 or 栽. Sweet stuff.

>>20885498
what the fuck are you doing with your life to focus on something you dont enjoy

>>20885535
>And Im remembering the kanji better by learning its stroke order!
whats ur fav stroke

>>20885467
i heard they cover all levels up to N3 and some of N2 and some of N1, but not all of N2 and N1.

but Handbook of Japanese Grammar does cover all of N5 through N1.

>>20885550
He can't reply to you, he doesn't do languages. But hey maybe he develops "error-free telepathy", did you feel something in your head?

>>20885516
I study 3 entries each day, with each entry I try to write a simple sentence with said grammatical pattern. Do the same with the grammar review, this is time consuming but I feel that I am assimilating the explanations and uses of each term. I am the guy that takes 3 hours each day doing anki (primarily thanks to grammar study). I have been doing the DOJG religiously since September last year progressing bit by bit and feel it has paid off.

>>20885557
Time to memorize the handbook! I mean, it's just a 'hand'book, how thick can it be?

but seriously is there a size limit to what can be called a 'handbook'? Some handbooks are massive.

>>20885483
What if I told you it's the exact opposite?

>>20885583
they should put their time into finding something they care about at all instead of grinding something they are actively shitting on

>>20885568
ah, so you make a card on anki on a grammar item from DoJG, and you press 'good' if you can make 1 simple sentence for them? How do you know if your sentence is accurate? Do you keep the sentence to its barest essentials?

Like, say, ぜひ. What kind of simple sentence would you make with that? ぜひ来てください?

>>20885602
OK but what the people i described who like japanese media but don't find it compelling enough for it to maintain their interest and they have to keep going using willpower and have nothing else in life they care about.

Is there a deck that sorts Core 2k by RTK order?

that would be a dumb order

>>20885587
I took a quick look at the catalog and there's no thread on マツコ・デラックス, who is clearly the hottest woman of all of Japan. So clearly then /jp/ is too normie for me?

i guess there are threads on Downtown sometimes.

>>20885609
the answer is still find something else in life they care about
if theyre in that situation they might need professional help though

>>20885593
What I mean is that I refer to HoJG more than DoJG for the past year, so I wonder what it'll take to learn them. The anki deck on cornucopia is certainly not it, since each card just have the corresponding page(s) of the book on the back.

>>20885625
most people i know go their whole lives just being mediocre at everything and working a shit job. pretending we should all enjoy the grind in anything we do is nonsense.

>>20885606
Exactly, I really short sentence that can be used with the grammar point. I check the answer with the formation and explanation of each entry, of course, because I am a studying by myself there is no one to correct me, so I am not 100% sure that what I did is correct

>>20885630
I assume if you consume enough media, your errors will correct themselves over time.

More of hope than assumption, but hey, what can you do. There's a website, Ling-8 or something, where you can post your written sentences and have them be corrected by native speakers, but I heard they closed new registrations. Also you have to correct other people's sentences (in your native language) in exchange

>>20885629
doesnt mean you have to follow hobbies you hate too

>>20885630
Can you give me an example of the sentences you've made and its grammar point from recently?

>>20885647
i'd rather not enjoy my time grinding something that will lead me to eventually enjoying something than enjoying what i can currently enjoy.

>>20885587
You're telling me a guy who loves shows aimed at more general audience more than shows aimed at otaku and nerds is not the normie in a community of nerds?

>>20885651
Commendable, most people just go with drugs and that's the end of that.

when you realize halfway through learning japanese you don't really like japanese shit that much but you've already wasted half of your youth learning it so you can't stop

>>20885651
what evidence do you have that you will eventually enjoy it
im not sayin if you get frustrated you have to quit it immediately but its valuable to ask yourself if what youre working towards is something you actually care about or not
personally ill feel negative about hobbies for a few days but i start enjoyin the journey again
if you dont get that i think it might be misleadin yourself to claim youll enjoy it when you get there
like this guy >>20885664

>>20885648
今更、取引の条件を変更するわけがない

An example I did today for 今更 entry

waah kanjitte muzukashiimondanee

>>20885678
Also, I try to use the vocabulary from that day's review, feel like killing two birds with one stone.

>>20885672
>what evidence do you have that you will eventually enjoy it
i like some japanese media and when i hear something was mistranslated and i didn't get the original intended meaning it makes me mad. but that's about it.
>its valuable to ask yourself if what youre working towards is something you actually care about or not
i completely agree with this and there are some infamous individuals who learned japanese and ended up regretting it. i just don't agree with the people who say "the process frustrates the fuck out of you? this ain't for you."

the one aspect of learning i do like is that i look back at material from a few months ago and realize i can understand it much better. but it's pretty much always a pain to move forward.

>can read easy-ish shit
>can listen to everyday conversation
>can write (kanji by hand even. around 800)
>can't speak at all
Why did nobody warn me about this? It's like I forget all the grammar I know instantly when speaking. Even when I try to talk by myself
What do?

>>20885678
>取引
Wouldn't even be the first thing that come to my head. Are you this business-minded all the time?

when u realize halfway thru learning japanese that japanese shit really owns and youre already halfway to finally enjoying shit for kids by the time ur in ur late 20s so u cant stop

i wasted my time doing rtk shit
my bro aniki is way useful

>>20885686
蒲魚?

>>20885695
These threads really frown on production, so of course you'll struggle with speaking.

For now, either find another Japanese speaker to speak to, or just keep on consuming more and more speeches until your brain starts forming the 'correct' way to sentence thoughts by mouth.

>>20885695
accept u dont actually know japanese at all even a little

>>20885697
Not really, got it from my vocabulary review today, I tend to use whatever I review that day. I feel that it reinforces the vocabulary in my mind.

>>20885695
Have autistic mental conversations with imaginary Japanese people.

>>20885724
accept ur weaknesses and failures and learn from them

>>20885728
I actually do this usually with cute girls.

https://animelon.com/video/5b518dd233107581e4f65a43
if anyone is looking for the most basic anime ever, this is essentially yotsuba in anime form

I will never be able to read Japanese names. Especially, name kanji.

Might as well give up now. Just don't read anything that don't provide the furigana for names.

>>20885740
Same here, you'll be a pro at Japanese in no time.

>>20885695
it's because you can only read "easy-ish shit" and can only listen to everyday conversation.

>>20885695
watch this vid posthaste

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0lXLfIJ9dE

>>20885744
i dont get the unko jokes

>>20885695
>I never practice production and I'm shit at production, what gives??

>>20885695
youll always have much higher comprehension than production cause it takes way higher familiarity with somethin for it to come to you on its own than to remember what it means when you see or hear it
read and listen more

>>20885755
me neither, is kids talking about shit and constipation standard humor in japan?

>>20885760
If he followed DJT then the advice he'd have followed is >>20885765, which is:
>read and listen more
so no wonder he hadn't done production training. It's 100% input, all the time.

Krashen's influence?

you do have to practice production but at the same time your passive vocab isn't going to be the same as your active vocab so you have to be able to understand material beyond everyday conversation to be able to produce everyday conversation. that is, if you don't want to practice production yet.

>>20885769
standard kids humor, which also works for some adults

what's kids humor like where you live?

>>20885771
The point is that it should be very obvious that the outcome of not including production practice in your learning process is an inability to speak.

If I grew up reading badly translated LNs and then developed my Japanese reading badly-written LNs, is there hope for me to attain a better sense of literature once I reached that level of fluency?

>>20885776
I have no idea, the only content with kids in it that I consume is japanese and i have no contact with them irl

>>20885786
Do you remember what you find funny when you're under 10?

>>20885771
i aint sayin you should never produce if you want to be able to converse
but if your comprehension is low tier and you cant remember basic grammar the solution to that isnt
>production training
whatever that is
dont try to force it when you dont know nihongo

>>20885788
no, that was quite a while ago for me unlike most people in this thread

>>20885776
also why does the blue girl like to step on that dude?i wish that was me

imagine not lmaoing at poop and farts constantly while being a visitor and or poster in these threads lmfao

>>20885798
poop humor is ancient, even? I believe one of the oldest jokes is "here is a wonder: a wife who, when sitting on his husband's lap, does not fart"

look at these modern humoids trying to pretend they're better

良い
長い

Did anyone here mine words from the Atelier Arland games? I played them in English but want to cram as much Atelier vocab as I can before Lulua comes out in Japan in a month.

is this boogipop show worth watching? first episode was kinda shite

>>20885816
>鳥
>島
you tryin to sell rtk or what

>>20885821
no absolutely not and its arguable that the lns werent worth reading then and they arent worth reading now

>>20885821
op and ed are the best part

>>20885745
have you ever considered... practicing it?
get a list with the most common japanese names and go anki-droning how to read them

>reading manga
>not reading lyrics to your favorite japanese hits

>not using japanese subbed anime as your primary input

>>20885816
夫
末
末
木
矢
失
朱

enjoy japanese

>>20885841
>>20885849
Please do not abuse the quoting function.

>>20885838
宇江

>>20885854
oops, mixed up too
夫
末
未
木
矢
失
朱

>>20885838
dang im not even smart enough to read manga

>>20885859
Correct but make it a single kanji.

>>20885838
i'm going with 花

>>20885867
damn that's clever

>>20885867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8

>>20885867
Where is けこ you cheating cunt

https://my.mixtape.moe/vwlkzi.mp4

>>20885889
It's a mystery

>>20885816
>>20885824
>>20885854
>>20885860
The one that always fucks me up is:
土 Land
士 Samurai

どういうことなの or どゆことなの
and can we omit なの and still have the same meaning?

the one that always fucks me up is
は wa
が ga

whats the fuckin difference ??

>>20885897
Haha, didn't even read that manga.

>>20885902
前者
はい

>>20885902
u can do whatever u want dude

已己巳己巴

>>20885798
The best Japanese humor is puns, and the greatest kind is poop puns.

I
l
Holy fucking shit. They're exactly the same. What's the goddamn difference? Fuck this language.

>>20885867
>愛上
Hey, that's the name of that one H-artist, the one where it's mostly fat fucks hypnotizing thicc girls

>>20885922
Is there actually a difference? Maybe if we learned the stroke order?

愛上男

>>20885922
you forgot
1
|

>>20885904
one make train go choo choo

>>20885933
Shit, there's like only one small stroke of a difference! How the fuck do people speak this?

>>20885922
based false equivalence poster

>>20885934
the other make train go poo poo

>>20885942
You can tell the difference if you slow down and work at it, but then you'll forgot which one has the thicker highlight and then all your effort will have gone to waste, the text is now entirely illegible and incomprehensible. The language is now forever out of your grasp.

i can see its bangerz time again this one is especially important for djt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJipcw1lSdg

>>20885953
I appreciate the effort but you are being a bit too on the nose with this one. A bit of subtlety makes shitposting more fun.

>>20885960
>subtlety
what the fuck is that capital i doing there

>not immersing more so the words stick

>>20885961
is your goal to be good at anki or to learn fucking japanese? if you know the answer to this question you can answer your own pretty easily

>>20885961
What are you even doing man. Are you the DoJG shitposter?

>>20885942
That may work for this font but what about others?

>>20885961
You never lose the word, you just lose the ability to recall it. Your brain is more powerful than you give itcredit and it's decided you shouldn't learn japanese. Better luck next obstacle in life.

>>20885971
No my mature cards in the DoJG deck are OK and will be more than OK when I finish drilling them with a maximum interval of 2 weeks for a few more months after which point I might delete the deck and rely on reading+occasional look ups.

If a gril doesn't wear 布パンツ she's probably not worth your consideration.

>>20885967
Why are so many Japanese teachers on youtube absolute cuties? It's unfair!

tomorrow is the day i clear my fuckin review backlog guys.

>>20885982
couldnt agree more

>>20885987
Or you can just see they have different hex values lmao

ah, is it time for showing off your anki graphs?

>>20885971
how do i getg these stats?

>>20885971
haha, my deck only looks good when it's across the deck life.

i'm shit at anki, I guess better start reading.

Heres the few decks I got going on this account. I wish I could graph everything together it would be pretty big.

>>20885961
Ah, now it looks better.

>>20885961

>>20886012
I don't get it, write it in Japanese

>>20886006
dude wtf is this shit, i have 1 deck and can barely force myself to do 15 minutes a day. what is it with autists itt

>>20886004
My mature rate is really just proportional to the amount of new cards that I do.
And do these flashcards >>20885890

>>20886015
They feel good when doing it. It feels like measurable achievement, and thus is a concrete feeling.

Idle games work the same way. Humans like numbers going up. Like so:
1
2
3
4
17
33
109

>>20885997
Yeah, how about this?
I started this deck in 2009. Ever since then, I've been stuck in endless cycles of 2 weeks of studying, 6+ months of burnout.
I probably started studying at least 2 years before starting this mining deck, so that's 12 years of Japanese and I still dekinai. It took me 1.5 years to get through RTK.

I'm at about 10k words mined, I can read not too hard VNs but I rely on text hookers because I still need the dictionary a lot.

for me, it's Roundtable Feat. Nino

>>20886006
You can, but instead you should just delete all that garbage and start from scratch.

>>20886014

>>20886024
The important thing is that you keep on going.

>>20886029
I'm in too deep bro.. 6 months, theres no turning back for me.

>>20886030
「Flashtards」って何?

>>20886024
Is burnout for you just not doing anki or not doing any Japanese at all?

how am i doing panseichita

>>20885967
>>20885982
P-post more cute japanese teachers

please

>>20886037
sorry ive moved on from that one

>>20886024

>>20886043

>>20886041
Mostly no Japanese at all.
In the last 3-4 years I followed a pattern of reading through 1 or 2 VNs in about 3 weeks, then wasting my time on video games for half a year.
Even if it's something I would usually like, eventually I just get bored of reading and start playing vidya.

>>20886050
This makes me very not 嬉しい. You know what you gotta する

>>20886050
you're basically in maintenance mode you need to go hard for a few years then maintain it

>>20886042
A journey always begins with a first step.

>>20886065
are you ready to restart your 10000 hour journey with eng subbed anime yet

Anyone got an epub or azw3 of Norwegian Wood?

>>20886068
I'll probably need that eventually anyway, since my listening is crap. Only practice I ever did was reading VNs.

>>20886075
clearly the lord is with u to have brought u to me on this day

watch anime with eng subs ON and forget about learning japanese (but still listen to it just not too hard let it be like water)

i wnat u to watch 2000 hours in the next 6 months and come back in for a checkup

and absolutely NO flash tARding

>>20886070
It's like 2 minutes long, dude, just download a Youtube lyrics video.

This thread should be a cautionary tale to everyone about not falling for the Anki retard trap of channeling every single thing you do for your language learning through Anki.

It's a fucking tool that's nice for a few cases, but people have shown time and again that the language becomes secondary to the true Anki drone. The thing they really care about is pushing those Anki numbers and salivating over their stats screens.

>>20886094
My anki stats have gone to shit. >>20885961 is mine, and my other four decks are of similar situation. However, I am also >>20885483, and man I've been loving it so far. Useless trivia I can't probably ever use, like the fact that consumption tax will go up to 10% from 8% starting in October, although it doesn't apply to food items, but it does apply to take aways.

So I guess I'll just have to be a variety otaku.

I can now read my favorite mango thanks to Aniki.
Aniki is truly a blessing for us beginners.
I'm forgetting how to Eigo though. Heehe.

>>20886087
are u ready to rake in the patreon bux
ar flash cards

>>20886093
Stop mackin on my boy, fart breath

ive finally figured out what this anime was about thanks to epic flashtard guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xUdGzLx2jA#t=6

>>20886106
sounds like you dont need anki anyway just delete it and enjoy the nihongains

そのあと １回か２回 リュウグウに 下りて、来年１２月に 地球に 帰る予定です。

Does １回か２回 mean one or two times?

>>20886120
no it means 3 or 10 times

>>20886120
yes

>>20886120
yes
they're gonna land on the ryuuguu asteroid or we the fuck it is a couple times then bounce back to earth

>>20886120
Yes. You can usually find it in most dictionaries if you change the number to a kanji.
一回

>>20886125
I appreciate that. Thank you.

>>20886123
I still could extrapolate what I needed from you as well. Thank you.

>>20886112
kacho o~ji looks sick but the ed is prob oversellin it

>>20886120
honestly im disappointed this wasnt something ero i was hoping it was at the start

>>20886127
Thank you.
>>20886130
I appreciate that. Still new to this.

>>20886135
im pretty sure 90% of the money that went into production went in2 that op (its not the ed)

>>20886146
rewatched and saw it said op what the fUCK is the uploaders problem
sounds unsurprising

>>20886087
>i wnat u to watch 2000 hours in the next 6 months
That's like 11 hours per day.

>>20885628
HoJG is a completely unrelated, much worse book than HJGP. Don't call HJGP HoJP.

>>20886175
HoJG*

>>20886175
wtf r u on about lol

>>20886186
https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Japanese-Grammar-Language-Library/dp/0804819408
https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Japanese-Patterns-Teachers-Learners/dp/4874246788

>>20886174
after 10 years of flashtarding theres no pussyfootin about here if u cant watch anime for 11 hours a day ur dream will definitely die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg#t=16

えいごって

なに？

>>20886174
remember ur also undoing a decade of damage thats spreadin like weeds every minute u arent compelled by somethin ftw

>>20886202
I'm not that guy (thankfully), just pointing it out. 11 hours is a lot, I didn't watch that much even when I was a NEET because I also did other stuff like play video games, masturbate, browse the internet and sleep.

>>20886211
蛮夷の言語

i compel you to suck my cock

えいごって

けつえきがたでいうと

なにがた？

けつえき

ass juice ?

タイプシー

いやわたしはゲイなんだけど

>>20885867
Can someone explain this.

>>20886348
the readings for those kanji spell out あいうえおかきく very simple

>>20886348
愛上丘菊 is read as あいうえおかきく

>>20886366
Yeah but what does that mean. What it spells out

https://youtu.be/jLRAMDFkCL8
what happens when nuke and matt have a baby.

https://my.mixtape.moe/xkxuyh.mp4

>>20886379
why r they always named dave also i rage quit at the name marquee what the FUck

>>20886284
英語はアメリカ人の同じく全世界のクズの寄せ集めです。
だから、ABCEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ型でしょ。
勿論 D 除く。なぜなら、誕生のとき「D」が刈れる。