/jp/ - Otaku Culture

https://youtu.be/myJLdr_6pE4?t=6920
Nuke's looking at us again. Is he getting fatter?

>>20847379
https://youtu.be/myJLdr_6pE4?t=6930
lol

>>20846013
逸る you run into is always はやる. 100 percent.

>>20847388
I'm the one you replied to and I ran into 的を逸る for an arrow missing the target.

>>20847379
>he takes these threads seriously

new matt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVReg8_XnyA

>>20847386
look mom a youtube streamer with 2000 subs is reading my shitposting on screen
i'm famous

>>20847379
I like the part where he talks about my 2000 hours of anime shitpost

>>20847386
What the fuck is he doing? Reviewing random lines from a TV show?

>>20847393
Since はぐる and そる are
archaic words, I didn't think those having a hard time with how to read 逸る would come across them. It seems I was in the wrong.

>>20847463
It was in Utawarerumono. It's mostly easy to read, but sometimes it uses archaic shit because of the setting.

>>20847455
no, he's making these decks so YOU aren't shit at Japanese. I think that's his idea...

Do you know your 二人称?

>>20847549
Where's 君

>>20847553
圏外

>>20847549
I prefer 汝（なんじ）

>>20847553
君 is okay, but 我が君 is the true god tier.

うぬ

>>20847455
How it works: when looking at new cards, I listen to the card without reading the text. If I understand what's being said, I suspend the card. Otherwise I add it (spaced 3 days initially). Usually I understand fine just reading the subtitle line. If not I add definitions to words I don't know. Beyond that, during reviews, I just try to listen first then read if needed, or look at the definition. I just never mark a card wrong cause I'm not trying to memorize everything in that drama, just give my comprehension when re-watching it a big boost.

貴公等には全く気品が御座らず。

ぽまいらとはうまい酒が飲めそうだ

>>20847608
when will you admit to yourself that you can't learn Japanese and finally give up? how many decades have it been of you "studying" it?

you seem to go through content that a beginner can tackle within a few months, and no, I'm not talking about a beginner who spends all his time on Japanese

>>20847608
nuke I believe in you
you can learn Japanese
just please, please, spend at least an hour and a half a day doing pleasure reading in Japanese
I don't mean reading along to an audio book or reading a drama transcript, I mean reading LNs or a VN with voiced dialogue but not voiced narration, with no background music or background listening, and don't look up words you already know (except to check readings)
you don't have to wallow in illiteracy and Anki forever, just do this one thing and you're going to make it
I believe in you, please believe in yourself and get this one good habit running

>>20847702
oh obviously instrumental music or a visual novel's own music is fine just not external music with vocals

>>20847608
keep up the good work nuke you will make it
also lines starting with > are quotes and are usually intended to be taken as ironic if not actually a direct quote of something

I watched 5000 hours of anime and did no other studying and I can almost ace n1 listening practice tests.

>>20847752
I hope those subs where off, or else you're in for a rude awakening.

>>20847769
When? I already listen to seiyuu radio shows and like I said, I've already tried n1 practice tests.

How the hell am I supposed to know I'm on an おれ basis with someone anyway?

what do you guys think about this new morphman meme matt is talking about?

more efficient flashtarding is still just flashtarding

>>20848051
Use your gaijin get out of jail free card.

>>20847549
as if i ever will use those and talk with a nihonjin

besides, im 100% sure i woud either be incomprehensible or insult the bean paste out of them while making myself look like a literal autist

>>20848065
you don't have to do anything to make yourself look like an autist, that's just a permanent trait you have

>>20848068
maybe, but atleast im not ゲイ

うそつけ

>>20848064
this but unironically

>>20848055
too much work, too much of a pain in the ass, not worth, waste of time

got away with using ろ conjugation with a native once. I even added 下さい

>>20848055
I commend his perfectionism but this seems like one of those things that in the long run don't matter at all and is just time wasted configuring shit.

>>20848051
filthy gaijins will never reach the おれ state

>>20846946
>発作
>Hassa
actually that's also hossa dumb@$SS

>>20848055
it's good if you have a massive deck of unseen cards. if you make your own cards it's not gonna affect u at all

im late 4 the nuke chan

https://streamable.com/3kh3u

1 more for the road

https://streamable.com/yuamm

Is the -ska form part of an accent or is it just the "cool" way to talk among friends? It was used in Cartagra which is a VN set in the 50's so it got me thinking

>>20848431
it's just a slurred form of ですか

>>20848431
imagine approaching the difference between ya know and u know this way lmfao

>>20848431
っす is just a shortening of です it's not that deep. i mostly see it used by more masculine characters tho

just wanted to pop into this thread to let you know i finished all my reviews for today and i'm gonna do 10 more cards for the DoJG deck. 6 days remain until i finish the deck.

i'll be back in 10 minutes to hang out with you guys. take care.

ill be here to ask u what exactly ur learning and are now able to do and enjoy ur less than favourable response cheers mate : )

>>20848460
okay that made me laugh

i'm back guys what's up

>>20848564
i'd say i can only immediately recognize and understand 30% of the terms i've learned from the deck so far while reading if you take into account that some concepts can't be pinned down with single english equivalents. i still suck at reading but it's way easier for me to read after going through DoJG than before.

also as long as i remember one usage for each grammar point i feel that learning the rest of them will come easier since i'll already have an anchor so to speak. also once i finish the deck and reach maturity on all cards i plan on combing through all the example sentences to make sure i have a decent base.

こいつもポンコツや

Are psychedelics required in order to learn Japanese?

yes, and meditation. but be warned.

you'll reach enlightenment and realize that japanese media is childish.

no stop posting

>>20847386
im highly offended that nuke my greentext as my opinion

how many months of learning does it take until the variation in difficulty between texts is almost solely due to differences in rare words rather than grammar????

To the guy who made the kaku OCR android thing. You're cool dude.

>>20848822
>text
I fear even forever wouldn't be enough for you.

>>20848835
i'm talking about light novels, vns, and novels but i said "text" to cover all my bases.

>>20848838
I know

>>20848847
fuck then what should i have said? what do i need to do?

>>20848853
Stop being a read-only drone.

>>20848859
but i hate listening so much...

>>20848876

>>20848822
however long it takes for u to read this w.o any issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sKryFPoJ_k

>>20848859
笑う

new word 春菊

new word 空閨

What drives a man to lowercase posting? What happens in your life that makes you go "from this day forth i will type like a grade schooler"?

>>20848928
>new
>it's in the dictionary
?

the day u say fuck it im too old for this shit

what drives a man to uppercase posting
what happens in your life that makes you go i got somethin to prove from now on i will casually chat like im writin an essay

see thats where ur fatal flaw lies this is a thread not a chat room only high quality posts are allowed like asking ppl to blog about why they are learning japanese and also which pronoun is the best and oh yea did u see the latest nuke marine or matt vs japan ? lol

>>20848946
i'm just trying to fit in man. i prefer uppercase posting but they'll make fun of me

that said bangers ちょうだい

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFtdvUZTbl0

thats a pretty accurate representation of わたし when i post

>>20848980
i paused my anime for this and it aint enough for that

>know every word in the sentence
>still don't understand sentence
how is this possible

>>20848995
if it was a good anime i agree but u shouldnt even have this thread visible at any point while watching anime

new word 瓦全

>>20849001
it wasnt

new word 果然

new word 言霊

why the hell does 閨秀 use these kanji

nuke you probably shouldnt read this thread while streaming, someone could post something that could get you baNiggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers. Niggers.

new word 情弱

>>20849030
a woman who's good in bed is accomplished

Can the base 5 vowels have a “?
I’ve seen “ヴェ” and I’m pretty sure that’s U”e, but what does u become?

also behold uppercasers lmfao

new word 逆玉

>>20849037
nice meltdown

>>20849047
ヴ = vu
ヴェ = ve
nipponjin pronounce it like bu be though

>>20849050
Where does a wordsman such as yourself find these words

>>20849047
ヴ is for v- vowels. A "ヴェ" becomes "ve"

>>20849061
reading porn, except 言霊 that was in a trigun episode preview

new word 平明

new word 全員

new word: 女体盛り

trigun ftw lol

also new word アウト

>>20849079
thats not a word thats 2 words can the inexperienced plz not join in the high level conversation being had by posting single words thx

>>20849085
weblio says it is a word so stfu

>>20849050
God, I wish that were me.

new word most of you will probably get the reading for wrong 美人局

Effect something affection level.
what kanji is this ?
don't have better picture.

>>20849108
膣

>>20849108
量 try harder next time

why r u guys trolling the poor nublet its 効果量

>>20849119
Thanks

I'm writing a journal in Japanese. This is really helping me learn the language, and it's FUN!

誰がこの自閉症児を精神科病院に連れてって

>>20849179
+か

>>20849097
i learned that word from 龍が如く

Are classes at Japanese universities really as braindead easy as everyone says? I'm planning on getting my undergraduate here

>>20849050
ヒモ男 is probably the more common word for this kind of thing i believe, altho it's not exactly the same

>>20849235
yea theyre boring as fuck and super easy. you dont have to do any work & no-one expects you to do anything. it's impossible to not graduate once you get into a uni, even the top ones (i went to keio and it was piss easy even though it's either top 1 or 2 private school in japan)

f*ck i exposed myself again there

>>20849288
Well shit, this is my last chance to go to college back in Clapistan. Should I just take the opportunity to live in Tokyo for a couple years? Do the degrees they give out have much value?

>>20849307
depends where you go. where you went to uni is way more important than anything else in japan. if you go to a shit uni people will think you're a retard and the degree will be worthless, if you go to a good uni then they'll think the opposite (since it's all about how hard it is to actually get in to them). no-one gives a fuck about japanese uni degrees outside japan, except maybe toudai, because everyone knows the system is fucked.

also the employment system in japan is mostly based around training people not hiring people with specific knowledge. you can go do a degree in economics and then join an engineering firm and they'll just train you in engineering if they think you have potential because they dont trust the university system to produce ppl who know what they're doing. so going to a good uni is way more important than the actual degree you get.

>>20849356
>>20849341
it doesn't sound like they get much of anything actually done desu

>>20849356
really smart way to go about it. even in the US IQ is a better predictor of long-term job performance than job sampling/testing, and much better than interviews. so just find someone smart and train em.

>>20849373
correction: it's still inefficient credentialism, but it's weaker credentialism than what we have in the US.

>>20849367
japan has one of the lowest productivity of a developed economy for a reason.

japs view uni as 4 years of partying but desu they kind of need it. it's the break between "ridiculously intense study + daily 部活" of the school years (which might start early as fuck if your parents are crazy and send you to a 塾 at like 3 y/o) and "12 hours of 過労死 inducing labour for the rest of your life" that comes afterwards. the suicide rate would probably be much higher if they didnt have a chance to relax (and is indeed high at the few universities that are actually difficult like waseda)

>>20849379
nah because generally they dont actually even go based on IQ. it's about connections & where you went to school. some of which may be based on IQ due to the entry examination factor, but private schools can just be bought into, for example keio has its own elementary/middle/high and if you go to all 3 you go to keio uni without needing to take the test, but sending your kid all through that is insanely expensive so keio is full of rich dumbasses as well.

>>20849356
So basically going to school there is the best way to get employed as a non-English teacher? I got into a top 20 university but the program is in English. Do you work in Japan?

>>20848370
Even fucking nuke knows sao is shit lmao

>>20849445
jokes on him hell never be fluent

>>20849440
you dont have to go to school there to get employed there as a non-english teacher. japanese companies are pretty desperate to employ abroad these days, so there's a ton of companies that headhunt from universities outside japan, usually ones w/ big japanese studies departments for obvious reasons. you just have to go through the whole 就職活動 rigmarole before you graduate.

i know people who had secured jobs in japan at british universities 4 months before they graduated in the same way japanese people do, they just had to do a lot of skype interviews and shit.

>>20847379
>10k hours to reach nipponese lingual enlightement
Based.
It will only take me 15 or so years. 弱肉強食

>>20849542
>less than two hours a day
give up now

>>20849546
never ever, fag.

>>20849563
you disgust me but i admire your attitude so gambare

>>20848051
They call you omae

>>20848051
this is like the worst post ive seen in weeks

how many hours of djt does it take to become fluent

about tree fiddy

>>20849670
every hour of djt takes you two hours away from fluency

>>20849479
not the anon you replied to but;
If i want to work in Japan for a few years (not as an English teacher), is a N1 enough? I am not sure if this will be sufficient, as my spoken japanese will not be really good, especially keigo (I do not train/practise to speak, let alone writing).

>>20849670
i'm at around 500 hours and nowhere near fluent. i'm guessing at least 3000 or 4000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRmANtON5ak

anybody else watching letsplays by the japanese? recommend good channels

>this feel when you have to check more words one a single page than on the 20 last ones

Why the fuck do they do that?

>>20849675
you can get a job at family mart serving customers w/ n3 lol, that's why if you go to tokyo it's 90% indians/philipinos/etc working there

if you want to work in japan 'for a few years' in an actual company you pretty much either need to be a) a programmer (because tech is usually slightly more open to anyone thanks to high demand) or b) be applying in your final year of university and enter a company as a 新卒. companies don't really want to hire random people who aren't just finishing uni. usually this will require N2/N1 as a stated pre-requisite and good enough speaking skills to get through 3-4 interviews entirely in japanese. they'll probably give you a break on keigo because even japs these days aren't that amazing at it anyway, but if you think keigo is hard you probably aren't good enough at speaking to even deal w/ an interview in japanese anyway.

oh yeah and literally everything you fill in for your application will need to be handwritten so better practice your kanji...

i hope you did rtk so you can write kanji

why wouldnt u just make ur money first then go to japan u dont wanna work there with all the sadbrains unless ur doing something actually cool

>>20849685
i sometimes watch lets plays of japs reading vns i've already finished, i think it's good listening practice and shows gives me an idea of what reading japs typically pick for words that have multiple readings

here's a playlist of a let's play i watched of mojika https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHTSgOQ16-s&list=PLVIMBgCpq29BqPF-RDpkQ9nZOauUWXBX7

btw im 100% sure no-one whos on djt is actually workaholic enough to want to work for a japanese company. you guys just want to live near the weeb capital, but it's not gonna be worth it. i literally lived 5 mins walk from akiba and it still wasnt worth it.

i mean akiba in 2019 is trash anyway shits already past the point of no return

>>20849728
see >>20849050
absolutely no problem

agreed ill give u the best strat u can hope for

marry a fat rich uggo and be a stay at home dad in japan

>>20849733
you have to look like a 美少年 to find a sugar mommy. if you're a girl its a diff story tho... i know multiple women who live in tokyo and survive solely off being the sugar daddy to rich japs

how's zkanji? better than Anki?

>>20849759
they appear to be completely different things and used for completely different purposes so idk why u keep asking this

wow girls slut themselves out and use dudes for their money never heard of this before

>>20849766
because i feel lonely

>>20849769
for some reason i feel like it's way more common in japan to just do nothing except be a gold digger tho, ive certainly never met anyone outside of japan who admits to it

>>20849746
The only time you'll see jamal giving good advice.

>>20849775
in the west its called matrimony lol

>>20849778
?

>>20849699
Thank you for your reply. I am not confident in my japanese abilities, because I started learning 8 months ago, but I know, with enough time I will be able to produce japanese (and I still have like 3 years before graduation). Also >>20849711 motivates me to start learning to write kanji.

>learning a language with no future

hiro tan understands

>>20849759
using it for years. its the tool to go for very quickly looking up stuff
>hotkey - tiny window opens in anime
its priceless for this alone

never using the other functions tough

>hiroyuki
yikes

hirogayki lol

>>20849865
based

>>20849235
I know a guy who did his undergrad in Japan on a full government scholarship. He says it is indeed pretty easy but it's also the easiest and cheapest way to move to Japan, provided you're smart enough to get the scholarship.

>>20849883
so you use it as a dictionary?

how do first world countries solve the problem of needing endless population growth to sustain their economies

>>20849927
ye i did the same & was on full tuition and 140k a month from MEXT. lived like a god dang king. only paid like 30k a month in rent cause i lived w/ my gf as well. the glory days.

>>20849930
yup.

>>20849759
just stick to mining and/or a premade anki deck like vncore. please don't overcomplicate it as you seem to be doing, at least judging by your asking this question over the past couple days. just do what you need to do.

>>20849936
yea japan is gonna collapse any minute now

>>20849936
they dont. they reassess the idea of constant economic growth. japan has generally had a higher standard of living than the west for 20-30 years despite 'the lost two decades'. for some reason you'd think they would realise that economic growth isnt the be all and end all, but that's capitalism for u...

>>20849936
Immigration.

>>20849936
they don't solve anything, they wait until shit hits the fan

>>20849941
Nice. He was getting 120k a month, but lived in a uni dorm. I wish I could do that but I'm too old now.

>>20849955
not a long term solution

>>20849883
Hallo Hans! Wie du haben gelernt Japonski Spreche? Gib mir Tips. Ich môchte werden Mercedes Benz in Japonski Spreche. Bratwurst und Leberkasn ist auch sehr lecker jawohl.

>>20849991
based

>>20849984
You don't need to tell me.

S-so how's that compelling content coming anons? I am in the right place, right? Everyone's talking about jobs and moving to Japan...

i'm very compelled by fate kaleid liner prisma illya right now

>>20850071
i'm not reading compelling content but i am reading.

I can work in the west and have 40 more hours to watch ecchi anime. Miss me with that nippongoku shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg6GoDyafAw
this young lady is fluent in 4 languages including japanese and english, what's your excuse?

>>20850103
english doesn't count since it's the lingua franca with almost any content you could possibly want. and your native language doesn't count. so she probably has only invested a lot of effort into one language. snore.

>>20850100
this guys gonna make it gambare

>>20850103
i've only put like 500 hours into it

>>20850103
Actually 5 languages: English, Chinese, Japanese, Cantonese and Bahasa Malaysia
You guys should be able do to 2

>>20850103
> Japan is my most visited country and I’ve been there 9 times so far. Each time, I fell in love even more with this beautiful country. Their distinct four seasons
OH NONONONONO

>>20850103
I'm fluent in 4.

sometimes i just think how much fucking easier this would be if i were learning german or spanish. you could probably understand everything after 1/10th the listening time and you don't need to learn to read.

>>20850135
>>20850120
yea but she's from malaysia/singapore and her name is "gloria ya" so shes obv ethnically cantonese so she probably learned all of those except japanese as a child

she also isn't very good at japanese based on her speaking in one of her videos & just passed cause she's ethnically chinese and knows 6000 kanji probably

>>20850103
I'm fluent in 7 and I can honestly admit that I'm a self-destructive, lazy fuck.
Anyone can learn Japanese. This boomer here >>20847379
manages pretty well, so age is not an issue. It doesn't matter if you are 15 or 50.
Niggers, let me repeat that - NIGGERS have learned Japanese. If they can do it, so can anyone else in the world.
This should be the biggest motivation for anyone wanting to learn Japanese, ever. If you are at the brink of throwing the towel, just remember that a bunch of spear chugging, mud hud dwelling apes are capable of learning that language.

>>20850148
>This boomer here >>20847379
>manages pretty well, so age is not an issue.
im fuckin dead m8... do you know who youre talking about LMAO

>>20850144
did she grow up with simplified kanji

>>20850148
which languages

>>20850148

black people and boomers, the litmus test of what is possible for anybody to do

>>20850148
>Anyone can learn Japanese. This boomer here >>20847379
>manages pretty well
OH NONONONONONONO

>>20850158
>did she grow up with simplified kanji
singapore (and cantonese generally) uses traditional so prob not.

that's fucking brilliant i'm dying over here

>>20849944
I see. But Dolly told me that doing a pre made deck is pointless. If you want to learn to swim jump into the water. But starting mining without any words knowledge is brutal

>>20850148
obviously not fluent in one important language though -- love for thy fellow man.

>>20850148
Yeah, I recently saw a disgusting normalfag doing a shitty blog while living in japan and realised that if those "people" can do it then literally anyone can.

>>20850103
https://youtu.be/edfN1xRY86Y?t=110
Well her spoken Japanese kinda sucks

>Everything matters when it comes to you
How do I say this in japanese?

>>20850179
>disgusting normalfag
why do you assume that youre better at anything than ppl who havent failed terribly at life lol

それはあなたに来るときすべてが重要です

>>20850182
need to figure out how to say it in eigo first cause that sentence is ambiguous

>>20850182
あんたのマンコにちんこをはめたいです

>>20850182
それはあなたに来るときすべてが重要です

>>20850193
google translate, amirite?

>>20850180
being a polyglot is a parlor trick really

you can't really maintain that many languages at a high level

>>20850148
>I'm fluent in 7
no you're not you moron.

>>20850182
中出しの喜び君を教えてやる

>>20850188
you alright know what I want to convey with this sentence.

>>20850191
>>20850205
I know this has a dirty word in it

>>20850188
>>20850193
this is it I think

>>20850205
喜びを君に教えてやる

you guys really suck at particle usage (along w/ everyone else)

>>20850201
Spoken like a true dekinai. My mum speaks 4 languages fluently.

>>20850182
貴様にとってすべて大切ですわ

>>20850215
shame she never actually gets to speak with all the cocks in her mouth

>>20850174
The hatred is in your heart, not his. There's nothing unloving about pointing out that some groups have less ability. But when you accuse him, it reveals what's in your heart.

>>20850148
are you from central america?

>>20850224
lol you might have a point if it wasn't coached in the language of "spear chucking mud-dwelling niggers"

also why are you pretending ur not the guy i replied to

khatzumoto, the most successful and innovative japanese learner, was based and black

perhaps the fact that black people can invent AJATT and be better than you is an indicator that they actually don't have less ability, rather than the ease with which you can learn japanese. would make more sense since you're all struggling hard as fuck just to become lesser dekinais lol

the most successful ajatters are all white or jewish.

>>20850243
learn english

You fags are easy to racebait.

khatz was a nihongo god in 18 months, you can do it too if you're consistent and efficient

>>20850267
absolutely nothing wrong w/ the english in that. if you found it difficult to parse then it just means you're a dumbass who probably cant learn a high context language like japanese

>>20850284
it's not my fault that i (native english) cannot read your dogshit english

>>20850275
How in the living HECK did they watch 10000 hours of anime in only 18 months?

>>20850290
i suggest you dont try and read an actual novel or smth if you think that's difficult english lol. "james joyce was a terrible writer, I, a native english speaker, can not understand him at all!"

lmao

>>20850237
khatzumoto? more like KANGZumoto

kun-yomi reading(s): KANGzumoto - the non-white samurai who came with the watermelon boat

>>20850173
I don't know even after 3000 core words I need to look up a billion things in manga. The fact that starting out reading is never easy at any stage is true.

>>20850293
he listened to it 24 hours a day. much of his 10000 hours was sleep time and not paying attention.

>>20850298
some literary works may be difficult do the complexity of the language they use. your english is incomprehensible because of your terrible grammar.

>>20850307
core is not that helpful for recognizing words

>>20850298
>james joyce
alright i'm not him but don't try to tell me this shit's english

>>20850325
>some literary works may be difficult do the complexity of the language they use. your english is incomprehensible because of your terrible grammar.
lol i guarantee you know absolutely nothing about english grammar, native speaker.

>>20850307
but someone told me it gets comfortable at 3000 words

>>20850148
did u really think this was gonna slide

>>20850340
not nearly the truth, but for all the grammar you know you're still trash

>>20850351
says the guy who has difficulty reading his own native language and admits to it lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA6LMkuD2ow
why is there so many fluent black people wtf

>>20850201
this isnt really true that many languages at a fully functional level in most things is definitely achievable but u need to basically be as old as lingo steve and he sometimes forgets japanese is not korean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c5Xy3GZCac#t=535

>>20850364
>people
ニガーは人じゃない

>>20850358
instead of blaming natives you should just brush up on your english, brain stem

why are yall arguin about grammar when the dude just wrote an unnatural run on sentence with a misleading comma that a native has to slow down and reread to decipher his intent
>>20850358
commendable bait though i want you to have a you just in case other guy doesnt give you one

>>20850375
超人だね

>>20850364
What makes you think this person knows Japanese?

>>20850385
she passed N1 she's native now

>>20850385
cuz shes speaking japanese and theres a clear difference between her and the matts and lucases and nuke chans of the world which is that she knows japanese

imagine getting smoked at japanese by a black girl thats literally all yall

>>20850384
下等動物だろ

>>20850377
spoilers i am a native. you just suck at english. or one of us does, in which case your argument about "natives must be right!" is bullshit. (spoilers: you're the native who's wrong).

>>20850379
i already realised that & was hoping no-one would call me out but the original sentence was fine.

>>20850141
Approximately 5 times easier if the FSI is to be believed

>bait the thread

Is this he daily english thread?

>>20850407
it's make excuses why you can't get fluent thread

imagine having such an inferiority complex that you care about the race or gender of who could beat you in a nippongese rap battle

the natural progression is moving on from 4chan to 2chan

>>20850393
>>20850396
Her accent is horrible. In the video she says she studied Japanese for 15 years. Her N1 video is from last year and in it she made it sound like she had a ton of failed attempts. She also hid the actual score so I assume it was bad.
This person isn't anybody to take advice from or hold up as an example of what a successful language learner looks like.

>>20850397
そんな意見はいらん

>>20850410
My excuse is that I'm a lazy fuck. What's yours?

>>20850414
The anime and yuri boards seems dead as fuck there. Maybe I am checking the wrong ones, I don't know.

>>20850420
ummm sorry im gonna listen to the person who functions in the society of the target language as opposed to for example a guy making vlogs in his bedroom that has comic books on the walls and that 1 time he did go to japan for a minute he quite literally spent it all in the toilet

tho i dont really endorse her that much cuz shes not a insufferable otaku like me >: )

>>20850428
stop judging matt he doesnt even like anime anymore he probably doesnt like comic books either so the comic book wall isnt even something you can get on him for

苦手なニガー

>>20850420
>that
>horrible
If that's horrible to you, I wonder what the average anglo accent is to you.

guys why don't you just immerse instead of arguing over which e-celeb you are going to worship or which are better than the other. focus on improving yourselves

>>20850443
her accent is pretty bad dont try to sugarcoat it or deflect onto people with worse accents

>>20850445
I cannot immerse, because SOA released a fucking summary instead of episode 19. What is your excuse?

im pretty sure if u have a real not fake accent problem w. loretta san u dont know japanese and/or ur putting the cart before the horse wrt to this thread

in other words where do u think u r

>>20850455
toradora dot jpg vocaroo dot com

>>20850459
excuse for what? i'm reading right this moment and occasionally checking the thread. why don't you pick something else to watch if that's the case

yea theres really no way you can describe her accent as "horrible". it's actually about as good as you can hope for without going full retard like dogen

im literally imagining a guy whos only watched anime and listened to jpoop go lol her accent is terrible as they lean back in their dx racing chair

>>20850438
>he doesnt even like anime anymore
A major strike against him really. Imagine disliking something you used to love. Shows poor character, he either changed because he doesn't want to look like a nerd and he's weak minded/fragile to pier pressure, or even worse he's so autistic he can't judge properly/doesn't even know what he really likes and he just talks himself into whatever.

>>20850455
The 卒論 and 提出 are a little rough but otherwise it's fine. Not that I understand where the having an accent means you're bad at japanese comes from though. Seems like something dekinais nitpick about because they're salty about being worse.

>>20850473
sometimes you get bored of stuff. i don't really like video games anymore. for him he probably never liked it but just forced himself for the purposes of japanese.

>>20850465
bud you dont even understand that meme if you seriously responded to my post with it
>>20850474
i never said anything else her accent is just bad stop sugarcoating it or reading more into it

>>20850473
People change my dude. I used to play video games 16 hours a day, but nowadays I don't play more than a couple of hours a month now.

ah i missed some
>>20850471
you don't know japanese
>>20850471
this is some pretty high level projection

what's the end boss of learning japanese?

>>20850487
sorry ur gonna need to provide some legitimate specific gripes to get taken seriously here

also >>20850494 u were smart not to quote my post with that shit

>>20850396
Imagine being this insecure and triggered all the time because of your race.
I bet you go around doing the Wakandan salute to all your black brothas

>>20850499
Karaoke of a song you've never heard before.

>>20850487
Hint: That part of the post was directed to >>20850420. Use your head a little.

>>20850502
my race is whatever i led u to think it was : )

>>20850489
Yea I've stopped liking certain music and types of movies but I never stopped like all of anime or a culture. That's shows a sign of an underlying mental problem to dislike a total medium of expression. Like out growing movies isn't a thing, unless you are crazy.

>>20850501
mate put up or deal with it this ain't your swamp
>>20850506
you're being an idiot

>>20850516
Not an argument.

I'll note this down as a victory in my argument notebook.

>>20850519
did you think this was an argument lol

>>20850515
dude he just doesn't like anime anymore it's not that big of a deal and it's certainly not the sign of an underlying mental problem

apparently pronouncing everything completely fine but not sounding exactly like a native is a "horrible accent" according to people who are still in the stage of not even reading because they dont want to ruin their future accent from "sub-vocalisation"

>>20850516
if u were so sure of urself u could easily just blow me out but instead it looks like u just wanna blow me which i will also accept

>>20850526
yes it is actually sweeping an entire medium under the rug is something that only an extremely insecure person would do

>>20850515
except anime is a commercial industry that panders to a specific group (otaku) in order to make money. the number of anime that don't pander to otaku can be counted on 2 hands, and most of them were made more than a decade previously. if you are not an otaku then anime isn't made for you, and it's not insane to dislike the entire medium.

>>20850519

>>20850527
stop projecting and post what you really want to say, that you don't know japanese and dont have anything to contribute
>>20850528
damn this is the stupidest response i could've gotten are you going for a world record

>>20850537
imagine actually being this fucken terrible at anime lmao

>he doesn't enjoy watching libanese cartoons anymore
>he's mentally ill!
i'm not a fan of matt but you guys are extra retarded today

>>20850526
then he never liked it to begin with and he's a crazy guy who loves things for no reason, there's a million types of anime and dislike it all out of nowhere is crazy town

>>20850541
i know japanese well enough, and have lived in japan for long enough, to know that her accent is in the top 5 percentile of "gaijin who can speak japanese"

>>20850537
imagine being this delusional
>>20850545
imagine being this insecure

Don't act like you're better than us.

i don't like manga anymore am i mentally ill now

>>20850544
so you think that anime isn't a commercial industry thats sole purpose is to make money? what 'independent' anime studios are there?

>>20850549
i never said anything about relative quality, bad is bad
if someone isn't understandable (which is apparently what you think "bad" means) then it's hardly even japanese
you seem to have some serious problems with people ascribing negative labels to things that aren't horrendous, but that's just the way the world works, suck it up and fuck off

>>20850537
There's anime each year that grosses hundreds of millions USD. They're for everyone in Japan, not just nerds.

Why does this one mutt pretend he knows japanese?

i haven't played video games pretty much at all since i started learning japanese and don't really feel the urge

>>20850541
sorry i cant hear u that well over the sounds of u fellating me babey but dont stop

>>20850562
so what you're saying is her accent is actually fine but she doesnt sound exactly like a native? ok lol.

>>20850559
If it's just because "it's cringy" (matts reason) then yes.

why do any of us pretend we know japanese
we fucking suck

>>20850561
imagine being THIs bad at anime

>>20850572
never said that either there are lots of parts where her accent makes her hard to understand but the fact is that her accent would be improved significantly with some simple training (unless she has some kind of japanese-specific speech impediment) and that means her accent is bad

>>20850564
they gross hundreds of million because of hypermediation and otaku love to spend all their money on stupid shit. regardless, WHO they pander to doesn't matter. it's entirely reasonable to say something like "i dont like hollywood movies" because they're just a commercial enterprise with no soul

>we fucking suck
I would like to tell you to speak for yourself, but my japanese is basically nonexistent.

>>20850578
imagine having no argument and subconsciously knowing it so you have to pretend to yourself that you're right and that there's nothing more to say

>>20850483
>for him he probably never liked it but just forced himself for the purposes of japanese.
he chose to learn japanese in the first place because he thought anime was awesome

>>20850591
imagine thinking you're only talking to one guy when you're talking to like 3 who all think you're dumb and don't understand anime

>>20850591
i didnt invent any argument u did all the inventing there my friend

add posting right below anime on the list of things u r atrocious at

the only point im making is that the point of anime production is to make money. to say otherwise is just ridiculous.

>>20850595
yikes
guess he just went through a phase or he's insecure about telling people he likes anime

going to go make food so i wrote this in advance please pretend it's a response to whatever the next response to me is going to be

most people have bad accents. that's fine. there's nothing wrong with having a bad accent. but the fact that there's nothing wrong with it doesn't mean it's not bad.

the world isn't perfect, people don't have to lack negative traits to be respectable and hold self-worth.

the idea that once someone is good enough at something to get through life you have to stop calling them bad is what's actually toxic here, it makes it that much more disheartening when people are truly horrible at something and can't even hope of improving.

there's nothing wrong with having the word "bad" attached to something about you, and there's nothing wrong with being honest and calling someone's something bad.

the mindset where you can't say people are bad at things that they're bad at (like speaking without an accent) because they're otherwise respectable is, itself, the toxic mindset. not the mindset where you draw a line between bad and just okay.

>>20850615
except it's not actually bad and ur just a dumbass who has a weird idea of what a bad accent sounds like

imagine determining that capitalism is bad but pinning it exclusively on a single artistic medium instead of the society as a whole erogamers rise up

imagine writing a post that long about a chinese kid from chinatown nyc who speaks funny english

>>20850623
you don't know japanese don't touch me

>>20850624
im not pinning anything on a medium. im just saying that you can't deny that the object of anime production is to make money, and therefore the studios pick certain manga that will appeal to the types of people who already watch & pay for manga (ie their customers). therefore it's possible to dislike the kinds of things that make money.

its the exact same reason we get 100 superhero movies a year.

>>20850629
shut up and get back in the daidokoro and make my meshi woman

>>20850611
Have you seen those sweat shops? The artist put their souls into it and stay relatively broke. They do it for the love and respect of it. Japan does something like 90% of all of the worlds animation out of their love for it.

recognizing flaws is the first step to improvement

The next person who replies to me better know japanese or you're in for a world of hurt.

>>20850636
that's missing the point. the studio funds certain anime, the actual anime themselves being good or not (for what they are) is not what im talking about.

>>20850638
now you just need the self restraint to refrain from clicking the post button and u good mate

let's talk about japanese not anime

he only ever watched 3000 episodes so its not like he was that into it
also loling at how multiple posters in this thread claim to have no interest in western media but then get legitimately offended because someone doesnt like anime

>>20850642
おにちゃん

いっしょにあそばなイカ

>>20850643
You basically think anime, like say a miyazaki film is the result of board meetings by ceo's and marketing experts to cater to otaku, and I'm telling you you don't understand anime.

if naruto and sasuke weren't taijutsu specialists why can they kick rock lee's ass in taijutsu as adults?

you will never learn japanese if you have an interest in western media

because rock lee works hard not smart and naurto and sasuke each have iq in the 150s

>>20850664
in miyazaki's case he isn't pandering to otaku, but trying to broaden it to a wider market. in most studios that's exactly the case, and if you think otherwise you actually dont know anything about how anime is produced. most original anime plots arent even fully written and change based on fan reaction. they choose manga/LNs/etc that already have massive fanbases to adapt.

>>20850645
why are you responding to yourself

geh this anime guy is truly off his rocker

>>20850692
why are u responding to urself ?

>Mamoru Hosoda of Toei Animation was originally selected to direct the film, but quit the project after Studio Ghibli's executives rejected many of his concept ideas.

sounds like those ceos in the board meetings don't make any decisions at all lol

there are many anime made for normalfag appeal like romance

>>20850699
wow sounds like ur new to movie production this exact thing happens in 3d as well u know

directors still gotta listen to network/studio heads bro

>>20850700
it's a money making medium so obv they want to appeal to normies as well. if you like anime you've either got normie向け or otaku向け. it's entirely possibly to write off the entire medium on that basis, same w/ TV. you can't however, write of film because independent studios make films not necessarily to make money.

>>20850700
Darling in the FranXX was clearing trying to get young people to make babies, so targeting it at otaku would be completely pointless.

BROS BROS

I just had a realization.

There are people who don't know a lot about anime but know a bit and then think they know a lot and try to speak with authority about it. And then they look like idiots and get made fun of.

There are people who don't know a lot about Japanese but know a bit and then think they know a lot and try to speak with authority. And then they look like idiots and get made fun of.

I think there might be an intersection between these two sets.

>>20850690
>they choose manga/LNs/etc that already have massive fanbases
please stop posting

>>20850711
Matt makes a good trap.

>>20850706
i do write off any commercial orientated medium. the thing is that films also exist as a non-commercial enterprise unlike anime

>>20850720
if that was matt id take a step back on my criticism

>>20850720
so thats what the patreon money was for

>>20850662
>イカ
are you mai waifu

>>20847379
mommy i made it on a video with 100 views. sadly he did not read any of my posts.

>being an animu communist

>>20850713
kinda weird that you're all so in denial about the fact that anime is a profit motivated endeavor

>>20850728
>unlike anime
allow me to introduce you to the wonderful world of ONAs

>>20850690
I could list dozens and their various works and your dumb blanket statements would keep unraveling. There is instances of changes to stories yes but the originators are usually the one who decide it. Corporate control over artistry is even worse in almost any other industry. Anime is not designed just for otaku and it's not a completely soulless industry ran by marketing experts.

>>20850740
kinda weird that you think that being profit motivated is in contrast with nearly everything you say being an incorrect generalization

>>20850736
1 day ull be able to do it like me just stay humble and a student of the game

nippon no shuto wa tokyo desu

nuke is our nakama

>>20850740
bruv if we go back to the very beginning before u went on this many post tirade ull see i never once disputed that anime is made to make money

its especially bad now because its all about the even quicker buck and they make so much trash no one will even remember in 10 years

it wasnt regarding anything monetary that i said u were bad at anime u just immediately went for that fsr

Moot moved to tokyo... do you think he's using MIA?

>>20850586
it's not reasonable to say "i don't like anything from the medium" though

is nuke any good at japanese

>ビルに入った時は、１階に受付だけしか無く何処から2階へ上がるかを考えたが直ぐにやめていた。

I'm reading a web novel and sort of muddling through it, still a beginner and am pretty bad.

I've been trying to figure out how to wrap my head around this sentence, since the resource I'm using translated it completely differently.

What I got:
>When I entered the building, there was nothing indicating that the reception was on the first floor of the building, but I assumed that it was on the first floor and stopped thinking about it.

What my resource got:
>I was wondering at first why the first floor only has a reception desk. I was actually going to ask about how they would go to the second floor, but I refrained.

looking through the grammar resources on the guide, I can lookup だけ and しか separately but だけしか無く何処から* is eluding me. I'm on my 2nd day of trying to decipher it with jisho, rikaichamp and grammar lookup, and I feel even more confused than when I started. Hopefully I'm just being stupid here and this is an easy concept.


* (I don't think this is a morpheme in itself but I want to be as clear as possible because this is the first point where I haven't been able to just intuit my way past the grammar)

Any comments (you can be mean, I'm posting this here because I know I'm a dumbass) are appreciated.

>>20850757
well it was my only point. anime is profit motivated, which necessarily means that they are trying to appeal to the widest number of individuals possible when they make it.

this says absolutely nothing about the quality of the anime itself, merely the fact that it has to try to appeal to a lot of people or else it would not be made. if you don't like that then it's entirely possible to dislike anime entirely (altho there are obviously some exceptions possible).

>>20850773
>since the resource I'm using translated it completely differently.
Drop the resource. If you don't understand something 100%, just move on. You can always go back later when you are more advanced.

>>20850773
You're a dumbass, but maybe try imagining there's a comma after 受付だけしかなく.

>>20850711
Don't ever post again.

really disappointed that i still havent received my world of hurt yet

>>20850798
Your japanese was perfect. I thought you were a native blessing us with their presence.

>>20850798
that'd be your life.

>>20850804
idk feels good to me but lol that u made that post

>>20846564

This chart was definitely made by someone who does not know nip. light novels have a massive range in difficulty from much easier to much harder than murakami. also こころ is always written in hiragana not kanji, and it is by no means "archaic". it is actually relatively easy(in terms of older lit) and any high school student can read it easily.

Manga and anime is made just for otak...

>>20850783
You're right, this was the moment where I realized that I can't be lazy and ignore my Anki after doing 200 core2k vocab words.

>>20850791
Ah. Thank you.

>>20850812
i said anime. manga is more diverse because it doesn't require studio funding.

>>20850810
参ったな

>>20850810
my dude

>>20850773
>I'm on my 2nd day of trying to decipher it
you need to learn to give up on something after a few minutes and read more that you can grasp instead
even if you do figure it out you wont internalize much from it
eventually youll read read a similar sentence and have much more experience and it wont take much struggle

>>20850809
good post
>>20850810
this guy is good
>>20850812

>>20850821
>doesn't even know where 90% of anime come from

It's official. I've learned Japanese.
さようなら私の友達

>>20850810
It's a shame this is from 2012, so he has likely joined the trees in the forest already. Would've loved to speak to him.

has anyone ever adapted kanji to english

and if the anime has the clock up in the corner then u really know its for otaku because they dont stay up that late

>>20850821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2l7BZNFJsU

>>20850791
stop being mean you piece of shit.

why is 私 seen as the default pronoun
only faggots and women say it lol

>>20850836

-----try
----I 試ed

>>20850843
it's ok he recently lost his home be nice

>>20850831
you're clearly missing the point. the studio chooses certain manga because they know it has wide appeal (or appeal within a specific group that is known to spend a lot of money, ie otaku)

私はゲイですけど

>>20850829
That's what I've been doing, but after changing reading material 4 times I wanted to just stick with something. It's pride I guess. I'm going to go finish a grammar resource and get back on the anki train though, now that I ran into this wall.

I think my problem is that my proficiency is so low that anything more complex than a picture book feels difficult. It is nice going back to the earlier reading material and nearly being able to sightread it by committing to practice.

>>20850839
im assuming this is some indie anime. but the funny thing is it just backs up my argument more because this is clearly made for otaku. the kind of people who are so passionate about anime that they would want to produce one of their own (like daicon IV type shit) are the most otaku of them all

>>20850863
it's a crowdfunded ONA :)

i cant believe this guy is sTILL bad at anime

That's not how business works you moron, sometimes you make a product for a niche, because some profit is more than nothing. And anime doesn't have to be expensive to be interesting to some group.

It's a communist mindset to think there's one pie and limited pieces. It's capitalist thinking to make more pies.

boku wa pico

ps this ONA has some really bangin music you should watch it to the end

most people here hate experimental anime like flip flappers and shoujo site.

most you subhumans think hxh and kill la kill are experimental. just realize you guys have basic shit taste.

>>20850836
heisig made an attempt

私はボク

>>20850882
;l,mfao this guy might be the worst at anime of all

>>20850879
watasi coco

>>20850854
oh god dude you never stop doubling down on being wrong
>23% Of Japanese Consider Themselves Otaku. A significant percentage of Japan's population are self-proclaimed otaku, according to a report by the Yano Research Institute.2014/12/11
>pic: 50% of the population actively watch anime weekly, 23% of people over 70 watch anime weekly
So they're marketing to the minority of their demographic?

>>20850859
you dont have to drop the whole thing if youre still enjoyin it overall just allow yourself to move on from the sentence if its not absolutely vital to the rest of the story and you couldnt figure it out after a little bit of effort

なんじはわれ

>>20850834
that is kind of impressive, i would not have the patience to click through all those kana practices

>>20850878
>sometimes you make a product for a niche, because some profit is more than nothing.
yeah but the thing is in anime the niche is basically weird japanese pedophiles who are willing to spend a lot if they're obsessed. so whats your point

people who arent into anime arent gonna suddenly watch some "niche" anime, it's the well-defined groups who like certain genres that make up the otaku spectrum. no-ones making anime for people who don't currently like what anime offers, because that would be dumb

>>20850902
I actually just tested out via the placement test.

>>20850901
われはゲイ

>>20850910
the absolute god

>>20850916
kek. It has to be like n4 at best. I should take the JCAT to see where I stand.

某は拙者

imagine smugly saying huh maybe i should take the jcat lmfao

>>20850918
basically youre saying you nativelike right? wicked

wow the japanese course is the 4th most popular on duolingo and they just made it within the time i started learning (1.5 years)
that's 5 million dekinais

if you didn't want to watch the ONA btw watch this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zrY9oxN9fw

>>20850923
んんなに？
I'm saying that I'm shit and Duolingo is even more shit.
>>20850925
It feels like it only goes up to the equivalent of Genki I.

>>20850307
So after learning kana and basic grammar from Tae Kim I must jump to the practice? Maybe watching anime on animelon is better than reading manga, since there are both the jap and eng subs. But each new words it must be written in an Anki's card, with the example sentence. Such an hassle.

>>20850896
for one, considering yourself an otaku and actually being one are different. secondly, they're marketing to the people who are obsessively buying the merchandise and shit, ie otaku. three, the image shows that there are a wide range of people who don't enjoy watch anime, for whatever reason. the studios clearly aren't going to start make anime to try and get the the 76% of old women to start watching, they're going to go w/ the formula that has got them this far. so there are people who just aren't being targeted by anime.

>>20850941
how you shot yourself in the foot right after figuring out what direction the target is in is beyond me but you managed it somehow good job

>>20850906
you can't learn japanese if you are not a pedophile so sorry to tell you.

what's your favorite image you've seen posted in DJT?

sorry but djt doesnt even come close to my taste in images