/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>2076715

Yay
or
Nay.

There are two options, both cosmically huge.

>>2076698
What's there to discuss?

>Yay
it's "yea"

>>2076721

... oh.

Warakia's quote is still horrible.

>>2076698
Didn't we get rid of Kaguya for somebody better?

nay

>>2076747
Yeah she isn't really a villain, an antagonist but she isn't doing anything evil.

Put names over the the pictures.

Utsuho needs a better quote.

I nominate

"I'll melt it all away with my atomic fire!
Are you strong enough to fight in this skirmish?
Do you have a power that can match nuclear fusion!? "

Note: slight alteration of the Touhouwiki translation with help from Rikaichan.

>>2076698
Why do most of the /jp/ villains looks awesome but usually die pathetically.
Also can we have that insane doctor bitch from saya no uta in there.

How about The Swastika in Sumaga?

"I'm paying my price to live in peace. Don't think you can obtain happiness for free of charge. You know, if you really had a future you'd want to obtain no matter what...If you really wanted cry out of love...You'd prepare yourself to dirty your hands, and even if it was completely impossible, tried to push the person who made this world into the corner---See the whole picture of the fate of this world, notice all the good and bad things, and---show me how resolute you are about this--!!"

>/jp/ villains
>insane doctor bitch from saya no uta

Wait, did we play the same game?

>>2076847

Visual Novels are a bit more intricate than action films.

"Villainy" is hard to categorize.

I can see the blood-lusting, insane Yuka there. Maybe Okuu too.

Remilia is a stretch, though (and her quote is pretty bland), and Kaguya just plain doesn't belong there.

Can we at least get some Eva-Beatrice and 34 up in there?

Perla is so out of place there.

>>2076888

34 is already on there, d00d.

>>2076869

>Remilia is a stretch

Really?

All the quotes are boring and Kaguya also doubles up as a boring character.

Perla is so out of place there. She's more of a lackey than a FINAL BOSS (unless she is secretly the final boss, in which case disregard that, I haven't finished Gekkou yet.)

That quote was just something she said to make Paolo stop bugging her, anyway.

The problem with almost EVERYONE at all these charts across the boards are that the quotes are either far too generic, or simply make no sense and awe outside their context.

>>2076932
Not to mention they left out the rest of the quote where she talks about ANAL VOMIT INSERTION.

>>2076933
If you think Nero and Kotomine's are boring, then you have no taste.

SO BASICALLY, NAY, HUH GUYS

>>2076950

Nobody ever agrees with you, Len.

>>2076948
"Why was I called here today?"
"I cannot answer that."
"Will Carmelo be given back?"
"I cannot answer that."
"What're your measurements?"
"I cannot answer that."
"Don't say that. Come on, what about just your hips?"
"I will tell you one piece of private information--"

The servant suddenly stopped walking. She opened the pocketwatch, making a clink.

"My hobby is taking people who waste, sully, or use up my precious time and making them maggots lower than feces, as that is a fitting punishment. I give them food that is more than two weeks past expiration, causing vomiting, then I collect and preserve that vomit. When preserving, I boil the collected vomit in a large jar. Partially digested waste has many different colors mixed together. Ahh, it is reminiscent of a microcosm. But, the jar's size is fixed. There is no helping it when some of the stock overflows. I take that spilled vomit and, with a tube in the anus, return it to the thankful donor's rectum. I have a variety of interests. Do you enjoy that kind of play?"
"I'm sorry. Hurry and take me."
"Do you enjoy that kind of play?"
"I hate it, hate it. I detest it!"
"However, it has an invigorating scent."
"I don't even want to smell it!"
"I understand. Of course, while it is unfortunate, I will, unfortunately, not force you. It is terribly unfortunate."

She stated sorrowfully, and once again set off down the corridor. Paolo rushed after her, holding back a vomiting sensation.

>>2076912

The only time she really caused a disaster (a youkai's right) was the scarlet mist that started to block the sun, and that was simply because she wanted to go outside in the day time.

How about Silvio in Gekkou then?

"Wolves don't have imagination. When they want to sleep, they sleep. When they want to eat, they eat. When they want to fuck, they fuck."

>>2076698
Remove Chernobyl-touhou and Remilia. That is all.

>>2076698
Actually, the only good one of them is Miyo. A quote worthy of a real villain
Yuka's sucks because of the second sentence. I said it many times. Remove that sentence.

Hmmm... I think this was the newest

>>2076747
We did, someone just don't save the latest versions. the latest version have Osaka Bancho in Kaguya's place and Yuka from GSS in Perla's place. Oh, and Utsuho's picture is different there.

>>2076781
I do have a version of the roster with names over the pictures, but it's on my other PC, which doesn't work right now.

>>2076813
Actually, we can. As soon as I find the latest version (which have ironically stayed on my other PC, too).

>>2076791
>>2076834
Nice ideas, I'll try to do something with them.

>>2076992

Fuck, I broke down at Osaka Banchou.

It's like I'm really genuflecting!

>>2076992
Oh, here it is. Good.

>>2076984
He was on the very first non-Touhou version of the roster, but was dropped for Valentino, which was dropped for Perla.

CHILD BEARING EVERYTHING!

Why is kaguya on the list

shitsux

Kaguya's quote is awesome, but she's not so good as a villain.

/r/ that pic of Nrvnqsr, by the way.

>>2077028
It's from that "Shiki can kill Servants" doujin, don't know neither the page nor the volume, as I've saved it from /jp/, myself.

Would Houzuki from Sharin no Kuni be good in that list? I remember he said some good line about how country is like a wheel and that those who are unable to support it should be crushed under it.... or something like that, can't remember well how'd it go and right now can't be bothered to look it up.

>>2077052
He was, and still is, a pretty good candidate, but I still need his quote.

>>2077045

I want to read this doujin, if just for the WHAT THE FUCK powerscaling Shiki gets.

KILL A REALITY MARBLE BABY

Roa's quote still sucks. There's nothing badass or taunting about it, it's just melodramatic exposition.

>>2077079

That's because Roa sucks.

But he's the only villain Tsukihime has after Nero kicks the 666 buckets.

>>2077064
...
Did you even read Tsukihime?

>>2077085
Well, we also have Kohaku and Akiha. Oh, and Warakia.

By the way, I'm thinking about adding either Cornelius or Soren to represent Kara no Kyoukai. thoughts?

>>2077064
Wouldn't that be a reason to not read it? It's shit.

>>2077122

He Killed Nero 1 by 1, not by Killing the Lair of the Beast King.

>>2077135

I would read it for comedic purposes, you see.

>>2077143
Araya is sort of a mix between Nero and Kotomine. Not eloquent like Kotomine, not as majestic as Nero, and comes off as sort of dry.

But he's still tons better than Alba.

>>2077143

>Oh, and Warakia

Melty Bloodo is not Tsukihime, katto.

>>2077064
Try /rs/.

>>2077045
Pretty sure it's not, but I'm redownloading to check.

>>2077163

>Try /rs/.

I would need to know the name if it, bro.

>>2077085
You forgot Kohaku

>>2076992
which font is used in this?
I change the text for Nuke touhou

>>2077148
>He Killed Nero 1 by 1

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No. He killed Nero by killing the idea of Nero. It's debatable whether that means he killed lair of the beast king, but Nero had a good 600-some-odd lives left when Shiki finished him off with one stab.

>>2077168
Don't remember, but probably nothing special. Like Times New Roman or something.

>>2077172
I assumed it was common knowledge. My mistake, then.

T-Moon Complex X
There are four issues/volumes out right now.

>>2077148
Judge with your mind:

What is easier to kill?

A self imposed marble of reality that constantly has to be sustained with energy and the natural world itself constantly tries to crush, or the very fucking 'WORLD' output Shiki kills in order to make lines appear on Arc?

Or ARC herself in any case?

Seriously.

This thread is derailing into power levels discussion dangerously fast.

>>2077205
...Oh, dear.
We must put certain people through screening before reading this stuff.

>>2077186

Even by that logic; Shiki can't see ANY lines on or in a Reality Marble, as it isn't even of the world.

No concept of death, cannot be seen, ORT, etc.

>>2077201

Type-Moon Complex does that.

>>2077213

Shiki never kills a Reality Marble.

He kills Nero, who's Reality Marble is never active.
He kills Wallachia, but only after DEACTIVATING his Reality Marble with Arc.

>>2077215
It's both Goddamn fanwork and reasonable if you work over different angles.
We are just retards.

>>2077223
Let me ask you this:
Where is it mentioned that the CANNOT KILL a self-collapsing world?

>>2077238

Implications from other conceptual beings.

Most notably the ever infamous ORT.

It escapes the MEoDP by having no death that Gaia knows.
Why would another reality have a death Gaia knows?

>>2077247
Cause it's a very fragile one created by beings from this world that cannot stand on it's own?

>>2077247

You are trying to compare
an advanced magical concept
to
THE ULTIMATE COSMIC PINNACLE OF EVOLVED LIFE INCARNATE.

Not fair.

To kill a RM Shiki just has to kill the magus connection to it.
without mana it will die

No back to our /jp/ villian chart

POWERELEVELLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>2077223
Wrong:

1. Lair of the Beast King is always active. The boundary is Nero's own body. Without it, Nero would simply explode, as no real body could contain as many familiars as his does without self-destructing.
2. Night of Wallachia still gave Zepia power over rumors enough to briefly form them, if you believe the battle system of Melty Blood, sort of like Shirou's projection being but a part of his true activation.

Not that it changes that they could both die, but...

>>2077247
Let's try this AGAIN:
WHERE is it mentioned?
Not what self-speculating train of thought you chose.

>>2077223
Actually. it's always active, if we are just as ANAL as you are.

>>2077052
Well, I think that this propably is it, remembered it to be bit different or maybe it was some different scene. As my translation skills sucks major balls I post it in japanese so someone better should translate it.

法月将臣
「森田よ。特別高等人とは、社会の権化だと知れ」
「一手先、二手先なら誰でも読める。だが、我々は常に社会を監視し、大局
を推察しなければならない」
「病人がいなければ医者は失業する。戦争がなければ軍人は解散する。罪人
がいなければ特別高等人も必要ない」
「私のような憎らしい悪役が、三ツ廣のように日向をいく人間をつき動かす
」
「万物は流転する。そこに多少の善悪があろうとも、今日も太陽は東から昇
ってくる」
「それはまるで、車輪のように……」

I nominate...

"EVEN NOW I HEAR IT! FROM ONE END OF
THE WORLD TO THE OTHER! THE SCREAMS
THAT FEAR ME!

"CAN YOU HEAR IT!? THE SCREAMS THAT
DROWN OUT SCREAMS, THE SCREAMS THAT
ECHO SCREAMS, THE SCREAMS THAT SCREAM!!

"THE FEELINGS OF OTHER BEINGS ARE TRIVIAL!
EVEN THOUGH THEY CANNOT BE SAVED, THEY
SCATTER THEIR PURE SELFISHNESS!

"WHO WOULD SAVE THEM?!"

>>2077324

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Oh, great. My Internet cut off, and I was all like "Oh God, what should I do if someone puts some decent comments?". Oh well, at least I get this:

>>2077222
Nice job, but it seems that the font is different after all. Whatever, I'll fix it as soon as my old PC starts working again.

Another random idea: so, I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees that roster needs more Saya no Uta. But who should be there? I have both quote and a picture for everyone: Saya, Ryouko, Fuminori, even Kouji - it's just a matter of deciding. I, myself, would go with Ryouko, as she's the most different from everyone right now.

Oh, wait, there's more. Good.

>>2077320
Great, waiting for translations.

>>2077324
It's probably too long. Can you cut it in three or four sentences?

Ah, almost forgot:

>>2077324
Is that from a doujin? Because if it is (and it probably is, it's just that I've read Yuka vs Yukari a long time ago), then we can also change Warakia's quote to his villainy speech. Or not, if we want to go with canon quotes only.

>>2077361

It's not a real quote, it's from Chado's "Yuka vs. Yukari".

>>2077341
just add whatever you like.

>>2077320

Although it's an awesome quote, it has the names of some characters in it so it doesn't really fit with the picture.

How about this one?

(法月)
いわれたことしかできない人間を三流
いわれたことを上手にできる人間で、ようやく二流
森田はいつになったら一流になるんだ？

(法月)
誤るな！指導者は、謝るな。誰かに責任を押し付けられない立場の人間の謝
罪が許される社会は堕落の一途を辿る。

>>2077380
>>2077376
Why am I so slow? Well, that kinda answers my question. But still, yea or nay to non-canon?

>>2077385
Well, it's not my villain roster, it's /jp/'s villain roster. I'm just the man who makes the picture (and organizes things to some extent).

>>2077390
Well it coulb be altered a bit, just change the names to something else. As it doesn't change the meaning that much.
But those sentences are good too.

>>2077341
Hmm... I think Fuminori would be best or Ryouko.

>>2077393
It can always be deleted later

>>2077450
True, but as I don't have an access to Photoshop (don't worry, I do have it, but on my - ta-dah! - third computer, which I can use as soon as tomorrow), why not discuss it before I make changes to the roster?

As a list with more diversity is better, I got one rather random idea and maybe not so good. What do you say if we add BETAs to list? Well they don't really have any quotes, so just put THAT headchomp pic and om nom nom nom as quote. Well on more serious note, it could make decent addition if we put the BETA hivemind or whatever it was called that thing at earths orginal hive. Altough there wasn't any proper quotes with it, but it would be bit ominous if we put how it list's what human is and how it doesn't consider human beings a living creature?

Good or bad idea? or completely rubbish?

>>2077602
...what the hell is that thing. Damn, I should read more VNs.

Good idea, but I'd rather prefer something more popular, like Saya.

>>2077629
Well I think that Muv-Luv Alternative is rather popular, only thing is that it realy doesn't have a villain per se, only thing it has is BETAs and BETAs and some more BETAs.

But on another note. Anyone remember if Gonzou had anyone good lines in G-Senjou no Maou? Can't remember anything well, but i'm sure that he had some.

>>2077678
I meant ingame art.

>>2077683
Do you actually think that the character models and shit in Typemoon and Key games are good? Are you crazy? They're some of the shittiest art I've ever seen, why the fuck can't they hire someone new? They make tons of money off of all of this.

>>2077696
Enjoy your lack of H-scenes.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Yeah, why can't they get this guy on TYPE-MOON staff... oh wait

>>2077671
(See: ZUN)

>>2077679
G-Senjou also has, well, Maou. Though I don't even know if there is a picture of him which you can put on the roster without spoiling his identity.

Oh, so that's Muv-Luv. Gonna remember that. Still, the VN which is translated into English is always more popular than one that isn't.

Yes it's sad that translated stuff is far more popular than untranslated, but there are some untranslated ones that get's discussed now and then here, which are to some extend popular. Some which are Muv-Luv, Muv-Luv Alternative, Sharin no Kuni, G-senjou no maou, Gore Screaming show, and stuff made by Nitro+. So those should have some spots on the list. And as I earlier said, diversity is good in my opinion, so that people won't think that we have only a little of things to discuss and are always only discussing the same old things.

>>2077781
Well, it's not actually the translation factor that matters the most. The hardest part is to find someone who can actually launch the VN, find the quote, translate it into English on a decent level, and post it in one of these threads for me to read. The idea about adding Maou and Hozuki is hanging around literally since the very beginning, but I still don't have their quotes.

>>2077679

The quote he shouted at Maou before he got shot was pretty good. Can't remember the context, though.