/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>20703077
Went from assuming Touhou was meme-filled yurishit to genuinely loving it.

Way back when, I went from loathing Strike Witches for its fanservice to embracing how absurd it was.

I always thought for a long time that the gameplay of touhou just wasn't my thing due to never liking similar games in the past and I was better off a secondary, but when I actually tried it I had more fun than I expected. i'm still not very good at them, but something keeps me coming back

Only liked flat-chested lolis before but now I developed a taste for onee-sans with moderate-sized titties.
I like to think I've grown as a person.

>>20703222
>meme-filled yurishit
It's a testament to ZUN's excellent taste that it isn't.

>>20704601
Indeed. Even after all this time, he hasn't buckled.

Unless you count TenShion, but that's a matter of interpretation

Had a short phase of liking anime until I after watching around 150 series concluded that you have to be very, very selective to find anything worthwhile.

First manga I read was shonen, then I became to hate shonen, after which I started liking them again, although I still do not consider vast majority of the shonen I've read to be good manga.

>>20703222

Same with Touhou.

I'm no longer quite as crazy about touhou as I was. The series is still very dear to me but I haven't even touched any of the new games or manga in a couple of years. Touhou reclined and so did I, I suppose.

I also fell into the gacha game hellhole somehow. 助けて

>>20703077
VNs, used to like the dark/edgy ones like Saya no Uta and Swan Song, but I can't jap for shit and the translators are too busy with moe and fantasy shit. Maybe it's for the best. I enjoy manga and anime a lot more and VNs were really time consuming, at least for me.

>>20706707
Honestly, dark and edgy VNs are a pretty good reason to learn Japanese if you're really into them. You just don't really get the same kind of atmosphere in other (easier to translate) Japanese media. Which is pretty interesting. Maybe I am wrong about manga, but VNs seem to be much darker and more cynical on average than anime and even non-horror manga. I'm curious how they got this way.

I thought crunchyroll wasn't that bad but now I realize I will never get to see an anime opening song translated again.

>>20706707
VNs are shit. Only alright for porn.

>>20703077
I used to really like Fate but seeing the 1 dimensional gacha characters and bad Extra games shilled year after year really soured my taste of it all. Especially that pink hair waifubait character with 0 personality.

At least I'll always have 2hu

>>20708090
You mean Astolfo? The one the people in /tmg/ are saying is a good character despite all the fanspunk he gets bathed with on the regular? I mean, there's probably a lot of pink haired character so I could be wrong.

>>20708786
>the people in /tmg/ are saying is a good character
Does /tmg/ like Apocrypha at all?

>>20710293
>>20703202

>>20710612
That is actually a reasonable discussion. Good job.

>>20706659
I bought every official Windows game before Ten Desires but haven't bothered to even 1cc any of the new ones. To me, ZUN's designs got less endearing and the music forgettable. The stages aren't as good, either. I don't know know why the newer games make me sleep.

>>20703077
Vocaloids. I remember checking them out ages ago and thinking they were basically just lackluster jpop with computerized voices. Turns out it's an absolute treasure trove of electronic music, and the voices can be tuned to be pretty damn good.
Just bought a new album using Macne Nana. I honestly would not have believed I'd be spending money on vocaloid music even a few months ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik_qiZ8i4MI

>>20713649
This is a nice track, even though trance isn't my type of electronic music. Can you recommend any vocaloid songs with a jungle or 1970s Kraftwerk-like sound?

Been dipping my toes into some light guro lately
Bloody organs/dismemberment and executions still turn me off though

>>20713649
Also this. I regret not giving vocaloid a chance before I went to C95 - would have bought a lot more if I did.

>>20705083
>I ... concluded that you have to be very, very selective to find anything worthwhile.
Isn't that the same with anything?

>>20714138
>Been dipping my toes into some light guro lately
Could you tell me how you got into it and if you think it's affected your overall taste? I have two reasons to ask. First, I've noticed I've been enjoying imagery that is close to guro, like skeletal or damaged android girls and biomechanical monstrosities. I don't fap to them, but I've started to think they look cool and visually pleasing in their own way. Second, if you are a wannabe artfag, it may be a bad idea to cultivate your taste for it. There is enough of a gradient for you to work your way up little by little from the light to the hard stuff. Past a certain point fairly low point only gurofags be interested in your art.

Posting a relevant Vocaloid video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgmwBuuMvqc

>>20705062
>that's a matter of interpretation

Still can't into VNs, I'm fine with text heavy games featuring VN elements but I can't get myself to sit down and play what is essentially a text adventure especially considering you have to deal with bullshit endings. The often low budget presentation doesn't help either I think. And don't even get me started on eroge, it's either nothing happens at all for hours, either the scenes get extremely degenerate and drag on forever.

I know these companies opperate on tight budgets but can't you at least throw something in RPG maker or Unity for gameplay's sake.

>>20715916
The bad endings are my favorite feature of visual novels. You get to see how everything can go wrong at every turn, so the stakes are higher. They are bullshit when they depend on arbitrary choices with no predictable significance or depend on complex affection scores. Some VNs even mock those, but they still use them. A good bad ending comes within 20 minutes after a wrong choice.

>>20717403
Cartagra has some magnificently drawn out bad ends, I couldn't believe what was happening sometimes.

>>20703654
It sounds like you simply grew up.

>>20707178
>Only alright for porn.
Wrong, all kind of VNs are shit.

>>20718503
It's true. All kinds of VNs are shit. All kinds of VNs are good, too.

>>20715916
I think many people don't want tired RPG Maker battles or Unity walking simulation as padding in their interactive multimedia picture books. I am among them. If the story is the focus, just tell your story. Repetitive perfunctory gameplay is worse than no gameplay outside of the choices.

>>20703077
the onahole thread changed my life pretty good.

went from a peasant fleshlight user to a doll owner thanks to /jp/

>>20719108
Aren't sex dolls a big hassle?

>>20719123
it was at first, then lost weight, gained muscle and now its just a few minutes to clean after finishing to putting it away
once a month it gets a full body baby powdering
cleaning the used holes takes a sturdy stick and a car microfiber cloth
finishing outside requires patting dry, and then baby powdering area

my dog is more maintenance than my doll

>>20719145
Are you still regularly using it? For how long did you have it? Any pics? It just seem like something you will really enjoy a couple of times at first and then just put it in a corner and forget about it as the novelty factor wears off.

>>20719169
I use them almost daily.
Going on 3 or 4 years now
Heres one of them
The thing with dolls is that you can change the wig or outfits. if you get bored of one just move on with a different outfit or wig. or doll itself. I have a hard time using just my hand these days because of being spoiled by the doll.

>>20714250

Pretty much, but I think it applies to anime even more than other mediums of entertainment

>>20714403
>Could you tell me how you got into it
I just wandered into it, really. Stumbled across a certain artist while combing through results from my favourite booru tags and it snowballed from there
I still don't fully understand exactly what I'm getting out of it, though like you my interest isn't sexual I think. All I know is that there's a definite yuri bent: I have zero interest in guys hurting/slaughtering women or vice versa. It has to be cute girls doing cute things except that those cute things are garroting/shooting classmates or eating their teacher's legs. To be honest I don't really care if I understand it or not
>if you think it's affected your overall taste?
It's not surprising that guro has popped onto my radar at the same time I've gotten into vocaloid, since all the producers I've been listening to have suicide and deep depression as strong themes in their music
>Second, if you are a wannabe artfag, it may be a bad idea to cultivate your taste for it.
Have no intentions of doing so: I can't speak Japanese and the English fandom is all edgy kids that read too much asanagi
>Posting a relevant Vocaloid video.
This is interesting - I find this video morbidly fascinating, but I don't get the same feeling that I would get from explicitly guro art. I get the same "can't look away from this car crash in motion" feeling that I always get when I watch blackhead extraction videos

>>20719735
>I have zero interest in guys hurting/slaughtering women or vice versa.
One day you will be able to appreciate the fine taste of a Toblerone.

>>20719797
???
I don't understand what you're saying

>>20719735
Thank you for replying, anon. It is fascinating how your interest and mine have little in common. 99.9% of yuri does nothing for me. I guess people arrive at liking morbid imagery in different ways and for different reasons. There is one similarity; I started to like darker media in general at the same time. When I said "cultivate your taste," I meant you would do it unintentionally, just by looking at pictures. I think I know what you are referring to with cute girls shooting their classmates. We had a long-running thread about Morimiya Middle School Shooting right after the New Year.

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>>20720903
Pffff

>>20703077
I hate Touhou, VNs, Otaku shit and japanese culture altogether and I'm here because i hate myself

>>20720227
>I think I know what you are referring to with cute girls shooting their classmates. We had a long-running thread about Morimiya Middle School Shooting right after the New Year.
Yup. Erikku has his own quirks but he does yuri-flavoured guro consistently well and has a real knack for good, (mostly) down-to-earth character design. He could use some anatomy pointers though

>>20721913
Don't worry anon, half this board posters are here because of that exact reason.
You're in good company.

>>20714132
>Can you recommend any vocaloid songs with a jungle or 1970s Kraftwerk-like sound?
I NEED this.

>>20714132
>>20722696
Might be worth exploring https://vocadb.net/Tag..

>>20714132
>>20722696
In case this thread dies, the question is duplicated in the Vocaloid thread.
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>>20703077
I realized that vtubers are very hard to get into for non-EOPs and non-autists. So I've gotten some respect for the vtuber thread.

>>20726007
>very hard to get into for non-EOPs
Is this what you intended to say?

>>20726014
I intended to say exactly that. Not a lot of vtubers are translated, only the popular ones. And if you see the literal whos that get posted on vtuber threads, makes you realize that it's probably the case that a majority of posters on the vtuber thread know enough japanese to digest their videos.

>>20726036
I understand your point and it seems at least partially true, but allow me to repeat what you said.
>very hard to get into for non-EOPs
And again for emphasis.
>very hard to get into
>for non-EOPs
>non

>>20726055
Woops...

>>20703077
I pick a series or IP, latch onto that series or IP for a few months or years, then move onto a new series after becoming unhappy with either the community or the material.

At first it was Touhou Project but eventually I got fed up with the community and started looking elsewhere, even if I still respect it for what it is. The other stuff I eventually got into and out of didn't fare quite so well over time.

>>20726178
I cycle in and out of franchises every now and then. If you look at my junk folder of saved jpegs chronologically using save dates you can tell when I was big into vtubers, certain vidya, etc

>>20726201
At some point someone will create a media franchise that incorporates this cycle into itself. It will be the final media franchise.

I never liked shounen until I saw Saint Seiya

HxH is the pinnacle of Shounen so hop on it.

>>20726571
BR?

>>20703077
Never was the craziest about touhou and kinda disliked how popular it was, though I liked the music.
Then I started really getting into 2hu "culture" a lot after I started playing the games.
Once I had something to link it towards of value it all sank in.

I never disliked VNs but when I was a middle teen I didn't think I had the patience for, which was wrong and then I find myself sinking every waking hour into Higurashi years later.
Just give me a daily dose of 07th expansion and 1cc practice please, near perfection that.

Used to like anime, touhou, VNs, japanese culture. Still like them all, honestly everything else fails to compare.

The only interesting people on this site and in this world are the quietest, and vice versa.

Why are the most interesting people the most difficult to hear, and why are the good teachers now mute?

Hated touhou at first, fell in love, now back to hating it again.

>>20734026
You did a full 180° turn

>>20733591
Interesting in what way?

>>20733591
>The only interesting people on this site and in this world are the quietest, and vice versa.
I don't think the "vice versa" holds. Interesting people are often quiet because they are busy with the activities that make them interesting, but a lot of people are quiet simply because they have nothing to say. Even if they consume large amounts of media they don't come to any conclusions worth sharing and aren't inspired to produce anything. Of course, loud people generally have nothing to say, too. That's why they are on TV and social networks.

>>20703077
I used to despise all weebshit because I thought that it was for losers who will never get girlfriends. And then eventually I realized I am a loser who will never get a girlfriend anyway, so I might as well indulge myself

>Even if they consume large amounts of media they don't come to any conclusions worth sharing and aren't inspired to produce anything
This is probably what was bothering me, I feel like a lot of /jp/ would like to be more creatively productive but something is clogging the pipes. Could be a misconception on my part but that is my impression.

>>20735278
>Even if they consume large amounts of media they don't come to any conclusions worth sharing and aren't inspired to produce anything
This is probably what was bothering me, I feel like a lot of /jp/ would like to be more creatively productive but something is clogging the pipes. Could be a misconception on my part but that is my impression.

>>20737734
I think people who could create but don't lack in confidence, dedication or both. It's scary to present your work to a caustic audience. You become vulnerable when you do it. Creating presentable works in the first place also takes dedication and self-discipline. NEETs and would-be NEETs aren't known for those, and it's hard to compete with the instant feedback and lack of vulnerability of low-effort OC and plain trolling. (The vulnerability thing also explains "ironic weebs". Even liking something genuinely takes more courage than saying you like it "ironically".)

>>20703077
Nah, I always liked 2hus since the start because they were cute outside of /jp/ and then got into a boobhu thread and masturbated furiously to Sanae.
But I hate osu though, way more autismo than I thought.

Also, nice abstract Yukari picture, OP.

Truth oft resembles madness, inaccessible to the dull of mind.

Those who go mad are merely thoughtful souls who failed to reach any conclusions.

>>20733591
>>20735278
I would like to add that one generally pays more attention when a quiet person speaks if only because it's less likely to be white noise

>>20735278
Yeah I stay quiet because I often say stupid stuff if I open my mouth