/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Should I name my hafu child 忍?

lets do it all over again my lion king ninjas みんな離れるまで連投しようぜ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzOAsyzM8E4#t=153

so THIS is the level you get with 10000 hours of subbed anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKEo2IVESK4
thread theme

>>20691676
The fuck is this character. It looks very similar to 夢, but the top part looks different.

>>20691753
it felt like it was just yesterday and now im 69 years old and theyre all the same as they were : (

>>20691758
try doing the top radical in a single stroke

>>20691758
lmao is that ゐ to the right

>>20691787
Chair is filled with random hiragana

>>20691753
something about that animation, it's unsettling.

I got what both だけ and しか mean and what's the difference between them, but I still cannot fathom ばかり - it sometimes looks very similar to either of those.
I understand the "he does nothing but play games" part, but there's also regular "only" use of it.

DoJG doesn't even give any 'related expressions' comparison for ばかり; it only mentions it in relation to other grammar points under しか pic related

>>20691884
https://streamable.com/nb6zm

welp time to jack off

>>20691913
My goodness

>>20691913
WHY DOES "SHE" SAY 聞いたばかり IN THE END? IT IS LITERALLY THE ONLY BIT OF ACTUAL JAPANESE IN THE CLIP BUT IT IS STILL FUCKED UP

ur ded bruv

>>20691884

>>20692012
where is it from?

>>20692030
curedolly

>>20692035
can you share the book

Am I the only one who hates the DoJG?

It's written like it's legalese and just makes things even more confusing.

Whilst I love Tae Kim because it was simpler to understand, it has a lot of stuff missing...

>>20692067
The book..? I just have a few screanshots saved from her videos where she has shown such infographics

>ワイルド

>>20692083
hmm thats actually pretty helpful, some needs to rip the book and put it in the guide

>>20692012
I always wondered what the exact difference of the three was. If they all express limitation though how can they be different? I still don't quiet get it but thanks.

>>20691676
what is 2本足? it's on the top right of op's image
i google and no answers

>>20692167
本 is a counter for long cylindral objects.

Guessing it's just two legs.

from Tae Kim:
>Expressing the opposite of 「だけ」 with 「ばかり」
how is it the opposite of it? it sounds more like the opposite of しか

>>20692167
it sounds like animals that stand on 2 feet

shika - not enough
dake - neutral only
bakari - nothing but

I haven't seen so much retardation in a long time, 正月 sure did a number on this thread.

>>20692187
顕微鏡でしか見えないくらいちさい。
so exactly would that mean not enough here? Because from your example bakari or dake would seem better, but natives put shika..

3 years and even you will be that good /djt/
https://youtu.be/1HHJxcgz5n4

>>20692271
Pretty sure I'll be that good after a year. I would be further along but I fell for the rtk meme.

>>20692271
I've been at this for three years and I still suck royally.

I'm still on beginner level.

>>20692285
it took me 3 months to go through 1+3, you probably wasted much more time on it

>>20692271
>that accent
>3 years 1200 kanji
not knocking him, he probably has much more of a life than me, but still.

>>20692293
Try timeboxing in 15-20 min burts then immersing or something in between., if you don't you'll think you're learning but you're day dreaming. That alone doubled my stats.

>>20692300
His accent isn't bad.

>>20692271
how did he not remember the word for hope though? there's like 3 right off the top of my head and I'm only 6 months in..
望む
願い事
希望
I'm going to make it

>>20692331

>>20692310
So study for 20m then take a break?

>>20692353
Yea, if you don't limit your study time you'll just do it forever. Depending on what you're studying you can change that time but your brain can only focus so long and then after that you're wasting time. Also once you blow your focus out then you can immerse better because your monitor is weakened (i.e, krashen theory). Hope that helps it helped me a lot. I get twice the immersion and do reps twice as fast.

>>20692271
came to see if anyone had already posted this and not a single post about his giraffe neck wtf

>>20692369
How long of a break? 10m? 20m?

>>20692331
It's pretty bad. Having a strong accent isn't really inherently a bad thing though, you can make it part of your character.

モウ3年カーン日本語ノベンキョヲシテイマス

>>20692382
20 min study
20 min break
15 min study
30 min break
15 min study
45 min break
Then I repeat the last two until I'm dont then I just immerse. It's good to get up and walk around on breaks. You can even go outside, go for a walk, go get some food, take a shower, etc. When you come back you'll be even more recharged. When you keep this pattern up your focus turns into a laser and your days will be much more optimized.

日本語は全て
珍紛漢紛

what does study even mean?

>>20692378
lmao

>>20692427
40 new words a day, 15k per year

>>20692437
what words did you learn today anon? and more importantly why dont you just read novels

don't listen to the larpers and the flashtards, real studying is when you watch funny youtube videos in japanese

>>20692437
Those reps will start to add up anon, it won't be pretty. You should be reppin 30 min a day max.

>>20692437
I was doing 100 a day, then burnt myself out.

So now I'm doing 25 a day.

>>20692187
なる is にある, not のある wtf

dolly sensei busted

Sometimes I realize just how much of a mess Japanese is and it makes me sad

>>20691727
ニン? Unlike レイ or something like that, it's not a good syllable for a name when it's anglicized.

>>20692456
I hate reading but I do that too. I force an hour of it before bed and a mine some words from them. I mine most words from anime on daiweeb. Daiweeb and anki are 95% of my time. If all works out I'll be a nihongo god by december. So far so good though. I'm 6 months in and honestly I don't know how usefull my first 3 months doing rtk were but it seems kind of a waste compared to my progress now. Maybe it helped it set it up but idk. Regardless I'm assimulating words and content like crazy now.

>>20692525
しのぶ you idiot
it's a joke with 耐え忍ぶ, anon's child would have to endure the pain of being hafu

>>20692546
ill be eagerly awaiting your essay analysis of 四畳半神話大系

due in japanese to djt by this time in 2020, we can compare it to nick kun

>>20692562
I'll do my best

>>20692378
>>20692433
His english is okay though. For a guy who grew up in a country where no one knows how to study english.

>>20692546
you dont seem to actually want to learn nihongo

>>20692557
Oh. That's funny.

i didnt watch the vid for more than 30 secs he doesnt sound horrible if u dont understand why what he says is still very retarded

not like u should expect anything but just important 2 note for the scrubs who might think he sounds good cuz he pronounces things ok

>>20692607
fixed ur image

>>20692604
Weird because I didn't learn L1 by reading.. I'll start reading when it's easier anyways. I'm busy learning the real language for now.

just like george who learned japanese for 30 years then started reading games for elementary schoolers nice tactic i like it

dont be like jorge the two most important things for learning japanese are a love of anime and a source of income not related to japanese otherwise youll end up sucking dick one way or another for patreon bucks like matt nuke that one guy that one other guy etc

that reminds me i gotta make that patreon

>>20692562
Nothing wrong with being a hafu, provided the other half's white and not ugly.

>>20692395
>It's pretty bad.
It's not.

How do you guys learn vocab when reading something when you dont know any of the words?

>>20692788
i look up every word i dont know

first for "george knows japanese"

>>20692768
I only listened to the first few seconds so I sat through a bit more and you're right, it's not bad. He tripped over some long vowel sounds so I got a bad impression.

Intonation needs heavy work though.

look up all the unknown words in the sentence/paragraph and see if it makes sense after then move on to the next sentence

what if you look it up and its some shit that doesnt make any sense like starwoods spaceschool lol

>>20692788
i look stuff up and reread it until it makes sense
i don't look up stuff i already understand and can read in context, even if i don't know it

>>20692826
>if you don't speak like tanaka-san 30sai sarariman your intonation needs heavy work!

>>20692850
>i don't look up stuff i already understand and can read in context, even if i don't know it

What do you mean by this? Do you mean stuff you can read thanks to the context of the story even though you wouldnt understand it alone?

>>20692859
If you can't even intonate この properly it's time to take it back to the lab.

>>20692866
understand (meaning)
read (reading)

>>20692875
I guess youre talking about kanji then?

>>20692889
why would i be talking about kanji

>>20692897
Because Kanji is the only thing that has a specific meaning that heavily relies on context from what i know, but im probably just being a sperglet

>>20692937
kanji have very little meaning on their own, they're just a writing system
what you look up when you look things up are the words, even if they're spelled with a single kanji

just start spamming lion king for the next 500 posts imo

>>20692669
Yea I don't get how he got such a big vocab and doesn't know kanji well. Didn't he graduate from a japanese high school? Weird.

Which font should i use on Ankidroid?

>>20692607
Why is learning Kanji individually bad? I've had no trouble memorizing them, and when I go read something light i've started noticing all the kanji i've been studying.

>>20693131
maybe do like the 1000 most frequently used kanji for a month or somehing, but don't beat yourself up trying to learn them all at the start imo. You'll notice them in words easier anyways and you're going to forget a lot of the kanji you relearn them. Takes like 4 months to mature them all in a deck. You just want to give yourself a little boost before you start reading/mining vocab/or whatever you plan on doing. Ymmv a lot, depending on your goals and what you like to do.

>>20693111
>big vocab and doesn't know kanji
talking to his wife and friends i guess but he worked as a translator too so idk how that happens
maybe it was just the same shit over and over again

fuck all that other shit. What are we reading today (watching for you manga fans)

>>20693111
Does he really have a big vocab? How did he not know 林間学校 or 書?

>>20693234
reached page 200 in 林真理子's こんなはずでは。。。

I think Im just gonna go through Tae Kims guide and take a break from even attempting to read anything else, making an Anki deck along the way

>>20692607
>this shouldn't take more than 2 days
i don't get why so many people say this. it is not at all a big deal if you spend a week or two on kana. i did and months later i'm still learning and reading every day. this is just gonna make beginners fret over taking a few extra days to do it.
>inb4 "good"

if youre a beginner and already here youve already gone down the drain

welcome to the inside of the septic tank

on the bright side nowhere to go but up

Any advice on how to stop translating shit inside my head?

unlearn every language except jp

>>20693368
thats a good post very cool kanye

>>20693184
Well it helps that the core deck incorporates sentences for examples when learning Kanji so while i'm learning individual kanji i'm also getting a grasp of the grammar as well. You also see a lot of previously learned kanji thrown in. I've definitely avoided the decks with individual kanji that have no context thrown in though.

>>20693387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEo87oaQXZY

>>20692607
>this shouldn't take longer than 2 days
>I've already failed the first step
I'm not gonna make it

>>20693396
喋り方がキャビアで草

>>20692271
Nice neck

>>20692866
he means he can often infer the meaning based on context probably but he's being an evasive asshole to you as is typical djt behavior so idk

So far the only thing i'm struggling with is Katakana. There's almost no way to get practice with it aside from the occasional foreign word that gets thrown in so I end up forgetting a bit of the alphabet.

watashiwa gehin

has anyone got that old vn screenshot that is just katakana?

>>20693446
Doing that shit looks pretty ダサい outside of /djt/

wow someone's english vocabulary is 貧困 sorry there isn't any english word that captures the meaning of hinkon

>>20693359
you translate to english because you're not familiar enough with japanese to retain all of the meaning in japanese in your head while reading a sentence. this is normal, and the more you read the more these concepts will be ingrained until gradually - concept by concept - you will stop translating to english. but shoot for breadth over depth so you can stay engaged with a wide variety of interesting material.

btw i'm a beginner and have no idea what i'm talking about so don't listen to me but i'm probably right since i'm really smart.

tfw really smart people are always right even if they're beginners

>>20693514
>this is normal
no it ain't.

>>20693111
He literally grew up in Japan. How many times do I have to repeat this.

>>20693535
trust me i don't know what i'm talking about but i'm smart and know that it's normal.

>>20693529
i was shocked by the intelligence of that post honestly it's the most "woke" and "epic" thing djt has seen in a long time

>>20693459
i got u my ninja i cant pass up a chance to slice and dice u scrubs with my daikatanakana

>>20693529
i prefer 果敢ない

>>20693111
>big vocab
lol

I have a bit of a hard time setting up a good workflow to watch anime and look up new words and save them for later review. Does anyone have any tips? I already tried the following:
>using animelon / daiweeb: it's fine, but the selection is limited. There is no offline option and pulling the words out is a hassle. Also the translation and word detections aren't that good.
>using Voracious: it's actually quite good, but a huge hassle to find good jap subs and the correct video to go with it.
>just watching anime and looking up words with mobile app Takoboto: it's fine and has anki integration, but no audio and it's a hassle to type in words on a fucking phone.

I'm probably asking for too much, but somehow I just feel I need to much time to fiddle with all the tooling and don't have enough time to just learn.

watch the anime and if you feel like you just heard a word perfectly but you dont know what it means and you can type it out right way then look it up and see what it means. then rewind a second and relisten and keep watching that's what i've always done. i like to google the word in quotes with the anime name and episode number to make sure im hearing the right word. a lot of times people will type up transcripts of anime and you can get confirmation there. you don't want to mishear something and commit it to memory

have u considered just watching anime and not looking up words until after uve enjoyed the anime

and no i dont mean make a list while u watch it like a retard

just go with what u remember and what u feel like looking up

if u just do shit 適当af ull be surprised at how its the best way to learn nihongo ftw

as long as u get ur 10000 hours of eng subs in ur yamagucci

>>20693536
he spent like 5 years of his teenage life there doesn't count

>>20693604
>>20693611
yeah thanks, I also kinda feel like this is the best way. If I'm always stopping and trying to translate I feel like I understand less than when I'm just watching and relaxing. I presume it has also to do with the poor auto translations, that don't really make much sense in context. But I'm missing a good dictionary, that lets me save words and export to anki. So far I only know Takoboto, but I hate typing on a phone and I need to unlock it every time because of stupid company policies.

Jamal you cunt, tell me where you live, I need to go and beat you up

Anyone here tried Low Key Anki? Was it an improvement over the default settings?

>>20693635
He got raped by a bunch of school girls, if that doesn't do wonders for your japanese, nothing will.

>>20693577
1. Watch anime raw, no subs,
2. Make a subs2srs deck of the whole show.
3. "Watch" ep in Anki in "real time", deleting sentences that you know or are too hard,
4. Suspend cards that are "+1" to you.
5. Put cooldown time on yourself when you suspend a card, I have one minute, so I don't stop all the time.
5. Look up your sentences when you're done with an episode to see if they are truly worth archiving.

This works well for me.
BritvsJapan has a good vid on it.

>>20693604
>>20693544
this man has a 偏差値 of at least 75 you should believe everything he says

>>20693611
this man's 偏差値 is merely 69 but he is in spiritual contact with a higher plane

>>20693635
sure does

TL hensachi means power level

>>20693657
Most of the ideas of Low Key Anki are good. Anki's spacing model is actually very bad for language related learning, particularly what it does when you fail cards. You can get 80% of the way to the benefits of Low Key Anki by doing the following things without using any addons:

- Setting the review limit to 9999
- Setting the lapse interval factor to something between 10% and 40% (I recommend 20%)
- Never EVER pressing the Easy or Hard buttons
- Suspending or deleting cards you're 100% certain you'll never forget again (like if you see 犬 with a four month interval, and you read a lot, you can just suspend or delete it.)
- Set your default ease to 130 and your interval modifier to 200%. (I have not tested this. In theory, it should be almost equivalent to making the "Again" button not affect card eases, which is a good change to make.)

Is supermemo any good or should I just stick with anki. Being able to study on my phone for free is nice.

>>20693689
Things like this seem like a huge workload to me and I don't plan on watching an episode over and over. I get it and I think it's a good method. But I'm simply not motivated to go to these lengths. I guess it would be nice, if people who actually do this would share though.

Btw. what does +1 actually mean? I hear this all the time and I thought it's having a sentence that introduces only one new word. But I don't understand it in the context of your recommendation. Why would I suspend those?

>>20693747
n+1 sentences are sentences that contain only a single thing that you know very poorly, and the rest you understand at least well enough to get by

that single thing can be a word or grammar pattern or idiom or whatever

a closely related idea is i+1, which is an abstract concept describing what things you can acquire language from easily, and the letter and number don't actually mean anything

https://streamable.com/8t39u

>>20693653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3iWO1LTy6I#t=24

>>20693741
i hear supermemo's SRS algorithm is far better than anki's, and anki can't implement it because it's copyrighted or something. but it doesn't matter. just use the one which appeals more to you.

>>20693774
>i hear supermemo's SRS algorithm is far better than anki's
it is in theory, but not in practice, because the supermemo author's theory is wrong
>and anki can't implement it because it's copyrighted or something
you can't copyright algorithms so no. the reason anki doesn't use it is because it's bad and incredibly complex. anki even has a bunch of useless code that doesn't do anything that attempts to block flaws that later supermemo algorithms have, because anki's original author hates the new supermemo algorithms so much.

>>20693789
why he hate it

>>20693741
I don't know supermemo, but so far I haven't found anything that is better than Anki combined with the core decks or potentially the new Tango decks that nuke has.
I would be happy to pay a lot of money for something better. A real n+1 deck by frequency (focused on otaku stuff) with grammar and vocab and good audio and lot's of customization options. So far the free option seem to be the best.

>>20693802
because it's bad (i agree with him that it's bad)

>>20693747
The 30-60 minutes of work it takes to make an subs2srs deck will get you a full audio-visual-deck of thousands of cards in one go. That's a lot of bang for your buck.

If you don't want to watch it multiple times just skip the first part and don't watch it raw before making a deck, I find it to be great listening practice, and you get to watch it fully animated.
But if it's a hassle then skip it.

By "suspending" them you just put them aside for examination after you're done with the episode, I just used "suspend" because it's a quick way to highlight them in your deck. But then again just deleting the irrelevant cards does the same thing anyway.

The idea is to enjoy the episode and not start and stop, looking things up all the time, it kills the flow of immersing.

>>20693804
>A real n+1 deck by frequency (focused on otaku stuff) with grammar and vocab and good audio and lot's of customization options.
it's called listening and reading more after starting a frequency list based vocab deck for foundations

and you can skip the vocab deck part

>>20693808
yea but what does the algorithm change?

>>20693808
good argument, I also agree. I guess it's settled everyone. Don't be a science denier, the majority of experts have reached a conclusion.

>>20693815
Oh I understand, so you make it just as learning material for the time being, not actually to understand the episode. Yeah why not. I already have a Shirokuma Cafe episode from ankiweb that goes this route. But I think I will never be able to watch that episode again, once I'm done with it.

>>20693826
they track data related to individual cards rather than just their current interval and "ease", and try to predict when you're actually going to forget them instead of just using an exponential spacing curve.

this leads to weird problems where pressing a "bad" button can give you a larger interval than pressing a "good" button, because the supermemo author has no idea what he's doing and his theory on how memory works is pure bullshit.

spaced repetition isn't this hard. it's never actually going to be good. you just have to show things you know well less often until you know them so well you don't have to see them anymore, and that's exactly what anki does. the only problems with anki's spacing system are in how it handles the event of failing a card, and you can "fix" it by changing the settings e.g. low key anki. (m*tt is a hack tho don't listen to his advice on anything else)

>>20693853
It's explained will in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCsxLyALIgk

Yes he is an AJATT'er and is oddly enough also named Matt, but he's not obnoxious and sticks to his method.

>>20693870
ty and only 13 min, seems well worth my time.

牛だって狸だって別に不便じゃないじゃん

How does this sentence work with both 別に and じゃない being negatives?

>>20693927
別に has negative "polarity", not a negative meaning

「別に…ない」 means "not particularly ____"

>>20692577
I bet not even 10% of DJT could do this

u cant honestly believe anyone with this hair attached to their head is proficient enough in japanese and english to do anything for u

>>20693942
Got it, thanks for the help!

>>20693870
Hmmm, so let's assume I have a video with 2 subs for english and japanese. I think I could quite easily automate this process and generate a screenshot (or video) with audio and the jap and english translation. Would this actually be helpful, I'm not sure if I the localizations are good enough to learn the language.

How the fuck are you supposed to know that 女神官 is supposed to be read as 女(神官) and not (女神)官

Am I autistic for wanting to put mined vocab into seperate decks based on the source material? E.g. a deck for manga, a deck for novels etc.

Is it a good idea to group arguably related vocab like this, or am I better off just sticking everything into a single mining deck?

>>20693981
But I think I would make my own flashcard application with this. I'm pretty sure it will be faster than trying to understand the anki database.

>>20693985
by looking it up

>>20693988
I think it's never wrong to separate things. But you could use subdecks. That way you can always go over all decks at once, if you want to.

>>20693988
If you want to play it safe, you could just merge all your decks together into a master deck every once in a while, and delete any repeats.

>>20693985
by knowing the words 女 and 神官

>>20693981
I would advice against a translation, you just want the pure Japanese transcript, you translate it yourself by putting the pieces together instead of interpreting another persons version of it, considering how vague and context-heavy Japanese is, translators will have wildly different ways of seeing things.

Since you're working with +1 sentences you're never overwhelmed because you simple delete the ones that are too much to handle at present, when it's time they will pop out at you.
It's a snowball effect.

>>20694024
but I also know the word 女神

>>20694025
I get your point and it certainly makes sense if there are lots of +1 sentences, but the reality is that currently I'm almost glad if I already know 1 word per sentence. But it highly depends on the material. I'm watching Totoro right now and I understand almost anything. But with most seasonal anime I'm completely lost.

>>20694079
I know it's tough, the first show i mined was believe it or not Devilman Crybaby, something I genuinly wanted to watch (because Yuasa is a god) and my deck quickly grew, because you have so many cards generated you can skip tens or even hundred if needed to get those super basic first sentences, which might just be a single word at first, it picks up quickly, that's why these big ready-made decks are so powerful

>>20694039
ok and if you knew all three words which one makes the most sense and which one sounds retarded?

>>20694025
Listen to this guy. You have to realize that a lot of English subtitles are filled with “flaire” doesn’t really exist in the Japanese. Not that it’s neccessrily wrong, but as the anon above said Japanese can be very vague and context-driven, so you could say one sentence 10 different ways in English and they could all be “correct”. But they won’t all be exact, which is what you want when learning. You want the raw definition of the Japanese.

>>20694079
Also, if you can stomach slice-of-life anime they are a huge help because they're full of more natural speech, as opposed to sci-fi or fantasy, but only if it's compelling. Skip boring and things aimed at children unless you happen to like that stuff.

>>20692271
>this past year I've learned almost 300 new kanji
wow i'm really proud of you dude that's lots of kanjis

JPLT results in 3 hours, Who is excited for the shitposting?

if you want natural speech watch youtube streamers or smth

i think they mean the lack of sci-fi/specialist vocabulary and memes not natural speech. of course its written as a script and read by a professional so it's not natural in that sense

>>20694106
>>20694114
Yeah thanks guys I will definitely try it out. The time lost making these decks is probably well spend, because it's something that is customized to my current level.

>>20694131
I try to stick to basic things and watch more complicated stuff still with subs. However I think it doesn't really matter in the end. If I first learn words like Bow and Arrow this will be fine. At least it's better than learning stupid business terms I won't use as much. This is a major flaw with pretty much all the learning materials out there. It's not that you won't need those words anyway at some point. But it's highly demotivating to learn completely irrelevant words to anime first.

>decide to learn japanese to read VNs
>they're all boring stories where the female/s practically throw themselves at the MC, unless you go for outright rape tag or similar
Does Japan hate stories where conquering women takes effort or something? I understand they want to appeal to their virgin playerbase, but even virgins hate boring plot. Thinking about just learning Russian to read philosophy instead.

fyi theres more scifi vocab and memes in real life than in sf meme anime

>>20694179
if you want to spend such a big effort then just do it in real life you dweeb dont you get it? and you can learn philosophy in english god you sound so stupid right now

>>20694190
I don't want a liability irl, I just want good stories to enjoy. And the point of learning Russian would be to authentically read Russian philosophers in their language to better understand nuances. I did this to read Nietzsche and other shit with German, and it was god damn worth it, so what the fuck are you on about

in another world my life is a sf meme anime

I think I'm addicted to learning japanese. I had a date to go swimming with a cute (but stupid and whorish) girl on Sunday, but I turned her down because I wasn't finished with my anki reviews. Should I go see a specialist?

shoulda taken her on a date to do anki reviews

>>20694214
God ist tot, du Hurensohn!

Yeah do whatever, but Russian is quite a bitch. You can learn pretty fast while playing cs:go or dota though.

>>20694228
Nah you're good, she was not compelling content to you so you did right in not immersing.

>>20694252
thanks doc, I'm so glad to hear that. Maybe I should write a requirement for at least tier 3 japanese on my Tinder. That way dates would become way more compelling.

>>20694214
you sound like a real huge retard is all im trying to say

>>20694332
here's yo upvote

https://www.jlpt-overseas.jp/onlineresults/
site is up but can't view yet

God I feel like I'm going to throw up.
What if I don't make it

>>20694435
Why would you not make it?

>>20694435
pst, hey bra i'll give you some hot advice
there's no such thing as not making it, that's just a meme to give retards that need adversity some incentive. in reality you can't help but become fluent if you consume the language. yes, that means you can rape yourself to fluency by stuffing your eyes and earholes with compelling dicks

>>20691676
Someone please answer why is my girlfriend Becky dressed up like the megane dude from katawa shoujo?

>>20692300
>>20692345
>>20692395
>>20692826
>>20692871
His pronunciation and flow are fantastic for a gaijin who still is intermediate.

>>20694515
fantastic? ...really?

>>20694515
we need high standards, it's sad to jerk people off when they're just like ok after a more than realistic amount of time

>>20694529
>>20694533
Nice response times. Looks like I've rooted out the DJT no lifes who only monitor this thread for (You)s and don't actually study japanese

>>20694549

studying japanese is for terminal retards

jokes on you im already done studying japanese

>>20694554
god i was hoping he could write better than he talks but this is just kanashii get me a　ティッシュ

u need to check urself b4 u wreck urself mate

Is there a way to add words to my anki deck from my phone without the mobile app?

wheres that kuuki yomenai grade school girl roleplayer

>tfw live in China so I have to study Chinese too

thought i was going to fail listening to i'm pleasantly surprised

>>20694710
How much money did ya spent on that test?

if u thought u were going to fail listening u do not know japanese i dont care what ur score on a tard test is

i was in bad shape bro
slept like two hours the night before

>>20694710
Which level?

>>20694741
n1

>>20694745
乙

>>20694710
>only 49
That's a fail desu

>>20694763
n1 test is dumb you can pass with like a 30, he basically killed it

>>20694782
it's 100 points to pass with a minimum of 19 in each section so you can literally be a monkey and pass it

anyone who actually knows japanese should have 180/180 and shouldn't even bother posting it because a vocaroo of toradora says more about your nihongo e-cock

No seriously can some chucklefucks answer how much money are needed for undertaking the test? Just the entrance fee

>>20694863
Why don't you look it up you lazy fuck? You won't pass it anyway, so don't even bother.

>>20694863
depends where you're taking it, use google

>>20694863
it was around 40 U$S in my 3rd world shithole

Apparently a lot of people who pass N1 aren't even close to fluent.

no shit einstein

>It is our argument that as Northeast Asian countries are lower on the q index than European countries, yet higher in intelligence, this would assist in explaining the surprisingly poor representation of Northeast Asian countries in terms of original scientific achievement. However, there are a number of alternative explanations that need to be discussed. First, it might be argued that until around World War II the standard of living was significantly lower in Japan than in Western Europe, and this would explain the poor representation of the Japanese in terms of Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals. However, this raises the question of why the Japanese should have had a lower standard of living if they had a significantly higher average IQ. A parsimonious explanation is that they were less innovative than Europeans due, in part, to lower q. Moreover, since around 1970 or earlier, the Japanese standard of living has equalized with and exceeded that of Western Europe, but even since this time, Japan has lower scientific achievement. The most frequently cited 10 scholars in 21 scientific fields in 2014 (210 in total) include only seven Japanese, while there were 18 British and 12 French scholars (Thomson-Reuter, 2015). Since the Japanese population (126 million) is more than the sum of those of the UK and France (120 million), Japan produces less than one-fourth the number of prominent scholars.

Wait so why are we learning this language again?

>>20694875
Projecting much ;/

To post jlpt scores duh!

>>20694897
Because of anime tiddies

ベッキーちゃんは悪くない！
全てがあのキノコ頭のせいだった！

Because learning japanese has helped me lie to myself that there is a purpose behind my Neetdom

>>20694897
uhh who cares about that nerd shit? i'm reading hentai

>>20694710
Did you study for it? If not, good job.

>>20694710
neato

>>20694988
No, I just woke up one day speaking Japanese fluently.

>>20694954
I learned Japanese during my two years of being NEET and ended up getting employed as a professional translator who makes some decent cash, so you might not be lying to yourself after all, friendo.

I know you use に after a specific time, like 五時に - "at 5 o'clock". But if you use ごろ as in 五時ごろ, do you also need the に particle afterwards?

I'm still troubled by the fact the other day Kofmann said he's never thought in another language except english. What did he mean by that? I think in japanese sometimes and I'm not even good at it. I think it in my head all the time for practice. I just don't get what he means.

>>20695031
he's talking about the difference between learning a topic and memorizing facts for a test.

>>20695069
nope

>>20695080
he's not a model polyglot but he gives good advice. he's one of those guys i mentioned in a previous thread who are stupid but happen to be right about some things. matt is the jew you want to listen to.

Okay I have a breakthrough I need to share with you guys it has completely revolutionized my learning.
When you're using flashcards like on anki or something similar, masturbate while you are studying. Every time you get an answer right, give yourself a couple of nice strokes. But every time you get something wrong? Slap your nuts. Make sure it hurts a little. It gives me some pretty serious nausea when I keep hitting my nuts like that but I swear I retain new vocabulary and new kanji like three times as fast. The hardest part is just mentally, its hard to hit yourself in the nuts. If I was /g/ enough I would program a robotic arm to do it for me automatically.

How many months into reading did you drop anki? Yesterday marked the third month and i practically stopped mining

Alternatively slap your nuts every time you open Anki.

>>20695106
Right away.

>>20695106
i have a problem where i delete anki decks after a month to a year and then wait a little and make another one. i should have just stopped at the very begging after i finished core 1k. hopefully i can keep that shitty program uninstalled for good this time

>>20694863
Since you seem to be one of my rude countrymen, I'll answer: the fee was $60

>知る
>知る is a う verb
>知わない
Verbs are cunts.

>>20695103
The most virgin neet way of learning anything

dude what? are you reading genki or something who told you that

>>20695103
This is why I keep coming back to DJT.

>>20695106
I got a good rythem going on it right now, pushing almost 50 a day. I'll slow down once I'm at about 8k in two more months.

>>20695103
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning

>>20695103
God, I wish I had a qt Japanese mommy teacher to do this for me.

>>>/a/183709676
>>>/a/183710101
I was going to ask here but didn't want to get made fun of, now I am giving you the chance to laugh at me you're welcome

>>20695184
>Your wish comes true, but you dont retain anythingfrom being distracted by dem tiddies, and when you get shit wrong you get shot in the balls with a paintball gun instead of just flicked

>>20695166
you do more cards in a day than i do in a month...fuck i'm never gonna learn this language.

im glad nihongo has expressions for things like 秋茄子は嫁に食わすな

really makes you appreciate the simplicity of nihongo

>>20695209
More cards is not necessarily better.
You have more time for play, he has more time for practice.

>>20695209
Don't despair. Anki isn't actually learning. The only thing that guy is flipping, is his lifespan. Charging a wastefull ultimate jutsu ;/

>>20695202
this kills the balls

>>20695106
6 months but i had been doing it intensely in the beginning (i would sit down and do it for hours) which gave me a good base to stop doing it. the more you know the less useful it becomes

>>20694897
>>20691753

>>20695209
I'm actually pretty bad with memory too but I optimized that shit like crazy. Drink coffee like crazy, jog and eat right, then set aside little spots of time and try your hardest for like 15 min (timebox). You'll hone your focus. I used to do 10 a day till I really started working on it. Then it was 20, 30, 40, and finally 50. I think it took about 2 hours today.

>>20695240
Just make the air pressure low enough to not kill the balls

>>20695244
this. except i threw in 5 hours of meditation thanks to matt's advice. that's enabled me to spend 10 hours in anki, leaving 8 hours for sleep and 1 hour for bathroom breaks and a lunch break.

>>20695258
Unless she's blowdarting them or you're wearing a cup it would pretty much always rupture you.

>>20695195
as long as you learnin ain't nothing to luagh at friend

Are there any anki decks specifically for building a vocabulary that lets you find the definitions of other words in japanese? Should I just sift through what is useful on core10k?

>>20695271
Get one of those fucking spring loaded kiddy paintball guns then

>>20693650
idk what your talking about but the way I did it was download the subtitle, open it in mpc and get the timing right and the open the srt or whatever in my browser so I can you yomichan on it. After each scene or every so often I would go back and check things that I didnt get.

>>20695289
I don't want my balls paintball gunned down at all though.

For those who attend JLPT last December,
you can check your results online now

Pretty happy with my N1 result tho my vocab/grammer sucks
Someone homete

>>20695244
Also I watch anime, jdrama, youtube, etc. mine another 50 for the next day. I watch 8+ hours a day and I don't go through a show unless I know every word that's said in it. I rewind things constantly. I add audio to all of my cards too, it's important, I do images on about a third of them or if I lapse. Working perfect so far.

>>20695299
Then why the fuck did you reply in the first place? Its like youre in a fucking dildo store complaining about how theyre all too big, so the clerk shows you all the different dildos while you bitch and moan about their size, and then once the clerk finds the toothpick dildo, you finally say youre not a faggot. Fucking degenerative bitch knob of a virgin you are.

>>20695333
I want gentle momdom, you instantly cranked it up to being shot in the balls.

Terrible customer service, shan't be coming here again.

>>20695305

>scared of doing new grammar cards but force myself to do 10 of them for the first time since early December
>already familiar with every single grammar point that comes up through reading
i'm so fucking stoked bros

What's the difference between そうです and そうですね?

>>20695305
gz mein neger

>>20695339
All I was doing was being a douchebag genie, and then making it even worse since the nerves in your dick wouldnt die and you would get the honor of feeling your sack get shot multiple times. The fucking greentext should have been pretty obvious.

Same difference between their respective literal translations into English.

私はヨイツの賢狼ホロじゃ

You can just spam read VNs and pass N1 pretty easily after a year, right?

>>20695357
The true douchebag genie would be the slapping but with obsolete old Japanese kanji that no one but the Emperor knows. Douchebag genies can only misinterpret, they can't actively change parameters.

>>20695376
Try it and report back. I won't learn japanese in that time so I will still be here waiting.

>>20695377
Fine, but youre still a sperglet bitch

>>20695389
I've actually been learning Japanese on and off for about 9 years and lived with a Japanese girl in Japan for a few months about 5 years ago... the problem is that I live in China now and have to focus on that. I just want a surefire "if I read this for 2 hours a day I'll finally be able to pass N1" strategy.

https://youtu.be/w5vDIzK7JFs?t=172
こんちは

>>20695400
You're never going to make. Good luck with Chinese.

>>20695409
Yeah, it's tough. I took N1 in December 2014 and failed it by like 30 points. The problem with N1 is that you can't pass it just from being conversationally fluent. You have to be well-read and it's tough for me to stick to a reading schedule if it's LNs or Novels. I'll try VNs despite not giving a shit about the porn aspect.

>despite not giving a shit about the porn aspect.
ウソつけ

>>20695146
This post is funny

>>20695424
I'm a whitey living in China. I'm practically swimming in pussy here so cartoon porn doesn't really entice me.

>>20695398
もう わかった

>>20695430
Ah sorry I didn't really read through your conversion with the other anon. Good luck from me too.

>>20695427
Wait, why? Genuinely curious

>>20695451
Thank you bro. I just downloaded 時計仕掛けのレイライン as a warm up. I think the more chuuni shit will up my game. Some poo just released an updated ITHVNR that seems to work a lot better so it's perfect timing.

it's the birth of another leyline guy

>>20695103
This actually made me laugh out loud as I read it. Thanks, anon. Keep on slapping your nuts.

>>20695464
>Some poo just released an updated ITHVNR
Where?

Swapping fluids with 3dpd. Disgust

>>20695472
It's also a good form of birth control. By the time I'm fluent enough to pick up qt Nips I'll be completely infertile.
No condoms.
No Elliot Rodgers.

>>20695482
Nvm didn't expect it to be so easy to find on google.

>>20695488
For other people in case they're interested.

https://github.com/Artikash/Textractor

How do I not sound like a white guy trying to speak Japanese when I speak Japanese?

>>20695542
Who cares? Japanese girls will say your accent is cute anyway.

>>20695542
By not trying to speak too early in your development.

>>20695542
actually speak japanese instead of trying to speak. only way to do this is to watch 10khrs of anime then it comes naturally

still can't believe the new site maintainer ditched us because we're "shit" in his eyes. i miss him a lot.

>>20695376
as long as you don't rely on machine translation tools or parsing tools yes
and even if you use a parser for a while you'll probably still make it

>>20695573
same

>>20695574
parsing tools help you quickly look things up, though. I don't think there's anything wrong as long as you're using Rikaisama or Yomichan with EPWING dictionaries. Even if you're pretty fluent it's smart to use a parser in case you see obscure words or kanji.

>>20695587
rikaisama and yomichan aren't parsers, they're mouseover dictionaries. parsers are things like jparser and chiitrans

>>20695542
The one Japanese person I know doesn't give a shit, I always think he's going to be offended when I start speaking it stereotypically, but more often than not it's the only way he understands me.

"meu liku bigu whitu cocku"

>>20695593
gotcha, I thought you were referring to text hookers themselves.

>>20695598
no nothing wrong with texthookers as long as you don't feed them to MTL or furigana inserters

>>20695035
machine translations will replace humans before anyone here gets fluent

>>20695035
>you will never translate bad moeges for pennies

why even live

>>20695573
>>20695583
What are you guys talking about

>>20695573
It is the same Australian guy who originally made the CoR years ago and has been repeating a cycle of taking over and then abandoning everything every couple months due to his severe mental problems
I can't believe people just act like it's some random new guy every time without noticing the pattern

>>20695673
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/threads.html

>>20695686
How do people actually browse dead threads on 8ch?

>>20695714
i know right

>>20692343
His pool of potential words is probably around 15000 while yours is probably around 2500. Nah, I didn't even watch the video. I have no idea what you're talking about.

hOly sHIt

>>20695885
爆乳

>>20695885
what is the source on this one?

>>20695885
i would just love to stick my face in between those and *brrrrrrrrr*

Can we have a pity party for those who failed

>>20695885
Also shouldn't it be たっている?

>>20695924
how about some bullying

>>20695974
With paintball guns?

>>20695916
https://vndb.org/v13076

>>20695924
>failing an easy test

>>20695987
ty

>>20695885
man i can understand this in its entirety now and the mystique is gone

>>20695456
Is it not a shitpost? 知わない sounds like some loli anime character with a speech impediment trying to say 知らない

i gotta go to bed but the genius we all love just dropped a new video on shadowing so we're all gonna make it. cya tomorrow

it's an ad for a mic and noise cancelling headphones

god I love our guy

https://youtu.be/8qx_hnAGc-k?t=578

can matt bender become any more epic ?

>>20696153
he uses a vertical mouse and microsoft ergonomic keyboard?

jesus christ he's even better than i thought. the japanese learning community has A LOT to learn and i mean A LOT.

>>20696153
He makes 3k a month to save people 5 minutes on Google.

>>20696153
i thought he didn't like shadowing

Why does he still use VLC? It's not OK.

>>20696181
I'd think that mpv was the standard by now

>>20696153
>Blue Yeti
>Bose headphones

Who is this idiot?

https://youtu.be/8qx_hnAGc-k?t=579

creasing

So I just learn I got Jlpt N2!!!!
I was 5 points away in the reading section from failing it, can I say now that I know Japanese?

>>20696243
The ultimate test for whether you know Japanese or not is whether you can get a Japanese girl to sleep with you.

>>20696251
You can do that N5 though

>>20696251
I cannot even get any girl to sleep with me, does that mean I don't know any language?

>>20696251
lol I accomplished that in 2013

>>20696260
EPIC

>>20693762
>a closely related idea is i+1
笑う
>>20693870
>but he's not obnoxious
debatable
>>20694456
not making it isnt a meme its what happens when you dont consume the language

you may have passed JLPT N2, but can you pass DJT N2?

don't worry, there's only one question. but it is a tough nut to crack!!
here's the passage, you pass if you can read & understand it : )

　半蔵の最初の男の子が生れたのは祝言をあげて六月経った時で、はた目にもにおいたつような男振りの半蔵が、仕事が終ると脇目もふらず家へもどってまだ首のすわらない赤子に乳を飲ませている女にまといつきじっと見ているのをそれとなしに眼にするのは、路地に降る雨も雪も決して冷たいばかりではない、痛いばかりではないと大きなものに心で手をあわせる気持にさせた。それからすぐに半蔵は兵役に取られたので、一年ほどしてもどってきた時、男の子はもうどこから見ても、路地に廻ってくる講釈師や説教師に聴いたやんごとない身の貴人さながらの中本の一統の顔に半蔵の男振りが加わり、その子を、銭湯につれて行くのか肩車してサラシ一つ下穿き一つで路地の中を歩いていく姿は、女でなくても惚れぼれする。

>Just mine until you could fill a dictionary bro

can someone confirm that reading that wont permanently cripple my japanese

>お正月に飾る大きな餅を持って歩く競争
Decorated mochi? Mochi that decorates something?

I tried reading without any lookups of any kind today. Was able to read 2 chapters in 25 minutes, though I think I'll stick with a dictionary I'll just use it less.

rapper high five jpeg

>>20696311
its by nakagami kenji, an entry level DJTer would be lucky to escape without his entire brain crippled to pieces

Huh, I guess you guys weren't memeing. Started learning three months ago and was just able to read and understand this without looking anything up.
「山賊の腰の動きが速くなり」
I can't believe this actually made me feel a positive emotion for the first time in years, I completely forgot what that's like.

Apparently got 180/180 on N2.
I'm confused. I definitely got some things wrong, how could I have gotten full marks?

なの or なんお?
I see people on twitter use the latter for some reason, but is there no wrong way of saying nano? Is just to be cute or something?

>>20696385
Fuck your post is starting to scare me into thinking I might have failed and it was all a big mistake of the servor or the correctors.

>>20696385
Seems like you've simply underestimated your own skills you could've taken the n1 with that kind of score.

>>20696382
>山賊の腰の動きが速くなり
ecchi na hon janai deshou ne

>>20695305
That wide difference between grammar and reading/listening scores delineates the gap between a serious language learner and a weeaboo.

>>20696416
It's this https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ228057.html
Just started playing, here's to hoping it's a long game. The art is good so far.

>>20696306
それゆうめいなの

みたの２かいめだよ

>>20696251
All you need to do is be a white guy with money. Higher chance if you're fit or resembles a celebrity (like Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt).

Just finished my meditation phase, I'm gonna make it

Remember that if you can't afford a Blue Yeti you're not going to make it.

>>20696454
それ過去ログからまんまコピペしたわ
特別有名じゃないはず

How long will it take me to learn participles and the hiragana and katakana? Kanji will take a while, I'm sure, but I'm worred about things like tenses and forms

>>20696487
What the FUCK is a participle?
>tenses and forms
you mean stems and auxiliary verbs

>>20696492
Are you implying Japanese doesn't have participles?

>>20696487
depends how much compelling eroge you read innit

hes probably implying you dont need to know what a participle is cause nihongo is ez ftw

>>20696498
I actually don't know what a participle is. Do you mean particle?

>>20696487
drill the kana like 2-5 days and watch dolly chan sensei while you're at it, its the fast track to becoming a self confident and emphatic shitposter

the best shitposters were shitposting before they knew kana youre just slow

The people who need to learn participles and negative perfect presents and shit are never going to make it. It's not a meme that you just have to feel it.

>>20696385
JLPT grades are scaled.

>>20696566
>Friend just posted his N5 scores
>Barely passed
>Acting proud and saying it's going to motivate him to study harder
I mean whatever floats your guys' boats and I'm not trying to belittle your achievements (grats btw) but not even N1 really means anything.

>>20696563
>http://www.jlpt.jp/e/about/pdf/scaledscore_e.pdf
I don't get it.

>>20696505
>nihongo is ez ftw
What about that big ass copypasta up there

>>20696566
Almost, if you take it next time you're definitly going to get it.

>>20696306
Not that difficult once you figure out the じっと見ている part.

>>20696511

>>20696579
what about it

>>20696560
t. never learned participles
calm down there, crab

>>20696450
Does someone know how to escape the first room in the brothel in this game? I'm stuck talking to furniture and have a fatigue meter up top, but no matter what I talk to or change in the equipment, nothing happens.

aint nothin wrong with learnin grammar bullshit but it aint gonna help you with learnin to feel nihongese its just a hobby as valid as any other

稲妻
Is there a story behind this word? Why those kanji? Just for their sound?

>>20696605
i dont but i believe in you and know that find your own way after all that is the power of eroge

>>20696613
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%A8%B2%E5%A6%BB

>>20696614
All I got is this hint telling me to make or find a tool, but that doesn't really help when I can't interact with anything beyond seeing the MC describe the items when I talk to them. I thought DJT was full of eroge connoisseurs, surely someone has played past this room? Feeling like a true brainlet right now.

>>20696601
it's too long and confusing for me even with rikai
guess i better read more

>>20696603
>>20696593
Pro Tip: Most people don't even know the grammar rules of their native language, so what makes you think you need to know the rules of your L2? I teach English for a living and all that shit does is encourage mental translations and it all unironically cripples your L2.

>>20696618
nihongo is ez doesnt mean nothing can be hard for you when you have a small vocab
it just means when you read more most of the stuff that was hard for you once will be real fuckin obvious
i dont know nihongo but thats been my experience

>>20696616
Intredasting

>>20696617
did you read the instructions? maybe there's some fundamental info you're missing

Are you guys using Yomichan? It hasn't been updated since 2017.

>>20696670
Still using it, works without problems.

>>20696670
Still better than Rikai

I'm no longer a self-certified N1 guys hell yeah I'm fluent now. Or native level even? Can Japs pass N1 themselves?

definitely not n1 is somewhere between kanken 2 and kanken pre1

Yes I thought so too. I'm pretty sure I saw some archaic kanji usage, like 或いは and 所為

>>20696673
>>20696712
Is there a way to change the color? I dislike white backgrounds.

>>20696771
So I'm almost done with Core 6k and because I've taken so many breaks, it has taken me around 1½ years. It's basically the only studying I've done since the summer of 2017. It all felt a bit pointless because many of the words seemed "useless" and I probably wasn't going to learn them without Core 6k at all, but today I actually ended up using a lot of them.

I have a Japanese friend in my country and today we were hanging out, just walking around the city. Because of the things we saw and talked about, I ended up using 電線、蝶、蛾、裁判所、鐘、方向音痴、手ぬぐい、栽培、サボテン、区役所、飛び降りる、大工、透き通る、醜い、噴水、美術館、虹 and even 多肉植物. Probably even more that I've forgotten. Words that I didn't really think were necessary to learn. I mean, I don't go to museums or art galleries. We don't have wards in my country. Do I really need to learn how to say power lines and carpenter? And how often do I need the word 醜い?

But they all made it so much easier to talk. And it was much more enjoyable than when I used to have a very small vocabulary. Even uncommon words have a place in most conversations, and even though they only make up a few percent of all the words used in a conversation, they are usually the most important words. Now of course a few of these words are not in Core 6k, but the idea is the same: They seem useless, but in reality they aren't! So I guess this just gave me a huge motivation boost because it feels like I've made a lot of progress, and it looks like I'm actually improving despite feeling like I've been stuck on a plateau for ages. And I realized that I only felt like I had hit a plateau because I wasn't using my Japanese! I never really got to use all the new words (and grammar!) that I've learned. I had just been studying, so obviously I didn't notice any changes. And remember, we were only hanging out for 4-5 hours! That's a shit ton of "weird words" for such a short amount of time.

So to all you people out there: If you feel like you've hit a plateau, try using your Japanese more. You'll keep hearing words and grammar you've just learned. And as long as you keep learning, you'll get closer to being fluent. You might not feel that way now, but someday, you're going to need the word 回路 or 脱線. Rare words are the most important parts of a conversation or a text, and there are so many of them. But if you just learn enough, you'll start to see them everywhere. You're probably just not noticing how many "rare words" you're not hearing on a daily basis, simply because you haven't learned them yet and don't pick up on them. Trust me, they'll show up soon enough.

So I'm almost done with Core 6k and because I've taken so many breaks, it has taken me around 1½ years. It's basically the only studying I've done since the summer of 2017. It all felt a bit pointless because many of the words seemed "useless" and I probably wasn't going to learn them without Core 6k at all, but today I actually ended up using a lot of them.

I have a Japanese friend in my country and today we were hanging out, just walking around the city. Because of the things we saw and talked about, I ended up using 電線、蝶、蛾、裁判所、鐘、方向音痴、手ぬぐい、栽培、サボテン、区役所、飛び降りる、大工、透き通る、醜い、噴水、美術館、虹 and even 多肉植物. Probably even more that I've forgotten. Words that I didn't really think were necessary to learn. I mean, I don't go to museums or art galleries. We don't have wards in my country. Do I really need to learn how to say power lines and carpenter? And how often do I need the word 醜い?

But they all made it so much easier to talk. And it was much more enjoyable than when I used to have a very small vocabulary. Even uncommon words have a place in most conversations, and even though they only make up a few percent of all the words used in a conversation, they are usually the most important words. Now of course a few of these words are not in Core 6k, but the idea is the same: They seem useless, but in reality they aren't! So I guess this just gave me a huge motivation boost because it feels like I've made a lot of progress, and it looks like I'm actually improving despite feeling like I've been stuck on a plateau for ages. And I realized that I only felt like I had hit a plateau because I wasn't using my Japanese! I never really got to use all the new words (and grammar!) that I've learned. I had just been studying, so obviously I didn't notice any changes. And remember, we were only hanging out for 4-5 hours! That's a shit ton of "weird words" for such a short amount of time.

So to all you people out there: If you feel like you've hit a plateau, try using your Japanese more. You'll keep hearing words and grammar you've just learned. And as long as you keep learning, you'll get closer to being fluent. You might not feel that way now, but someday, you're going to need the word 回路 or 脱線. Rare words are the most important parts of a conversation or a text, and there are so many of them. But if you just learn enough, you'll start to see them everywhere. You're probably just not noticing how many "rare words" you're not hearing on a daily basis, simply because you haven't learned them yet and don't pick up on them. Trust me, they'll show up soon enough.

What is the deal with the Kansai dialect? It seems so popular amongst Japanese learners. I know it's the style used in Osaka, the second-biggest city, but what is so appealing about it?
>>20696885
This is very encouraging. Thanks from a beginner.

Is that what we're doing now? Copypasting shit from Reddit?

>>20696905
its gone on for a long time

>>20696885
Been reading and listening a lot in LingQ, have just over 3100 words. I ate over at a Japanese family's house the other day and maintained conversation for 4 hours. I dunno, man.

Good message about never giving up though, respect.

>>20696897
are you an eop?

>>20696962
>eop
私の日本語は悪いw
悪いすぎる。
ごめんなさい。

>>20696771
yes

>>20696980
I see you are.

>>20696068
No, because according to the Tae Kim guide, it's a う verb. And those get changed with a わ instead of the ら. I swear I thought it was ら unless i read something wrong.

how many novels do i have to read before reading jap is effortless?

I want to fking KMS

>>20697072
the sound change in godan depends on the consonant not sure how you got confused but try watching dolly instead

>>20697087
If you read Capital in Japanese you'll be fluent at the end.

>>20697092
how's this possible?

>>20697072
It's u-verb, not a う-verb you retard.

>>20697092
But anon, you passed. omedetou gozaimasu!
How long have you been studying for?
I am planning to take N5 next year myself

>>20697115
i know what youre sayin but this post really amused me just say godamdoosi next time so no one gets confused with gaijin grammar

>>20697100
Just been doing Tae Kim lately. But i'll give Dolly more of a shot.