/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Reminder that if you don't post a clear screen then your "achievements" aren't worth shit

>>20561224
Why are you so on about this? Do you think people are lying? Do you like looking at clear screen images? Are you just trying to kill these threads?

You must understand this. Asking everyone else to change to conform to your desires requires justification. You need to provide that justification or fuck off.

>>20561275
That's funny you say that, since people did use to post their clear screens when bragging about them, before this revolution of secondaries who think you shouldn't

I haven't beat a single final boss past touhou 9 apart from the fighting games

>>20561385
The fuck are you on? Nobody's bragging here, they're just sharing progress. Plenty of people don't post clear screens when sharing 1ccs, and nobody cared until you started complaining about it last thread, newfriend.

Reminder that Princess Tenko is a bullshit spell card

Reminder that PDH is the modern "MUH EPIC BOOKS *mouth agape while holding soilent*". No, you're not cool. You're soi. Stop.

>>20563567
What does that even mean?

>>20563587
He watches too many twitch streams

>>20563567
This but unironically. PDH/Booktards need to be shot on sight. LoLK appeals to EoSDfags for some reason and it's sickening.

>>20563626
What can I grind without hurting your feelings, anon?

>>20563696
Sounds like your feefees are hurt. The real man's grind is Hidden Perfect Summer Ice or Hidden Breezy Cherry Blossom.

>>20561963
Are you doing it with continues?

The way I've been going through the series is trying to first clear it, and then slowly working my way up to a 1CC.
On that note, just beat Ten Desires and HSiFS! I found TD to not be as difficult as some of the other ones (LoLK and SA have been kicking my butt) and really enjoyed it!

>>20563764
>n-no u
Okay pal.
Ice is easier than PDH by the way.

>>20563778
Whonare you quoting? You don't seem to belong here. This is /jp/, not Twitter or Discord.
>pal
I think you have to go back.

>>20563778
Whom quote?

>>20563795
>>20563813
>parroting """board culture"""
Adorable.

>>20563822
Who are you quoting?

>>20563822
Please do not abuse the quote function.

>>20563415
It's just a manner of speech, you utter faggot
>n-newfriend
Please learn how to play the games

>>20563826
>>20563840
>/jp/ /jp/ repetitivity
Sad state of affairs, really.
Say it again. You know you want to.

>>20563914
Who are you quoting?

>>20563914
Qho are you quoting?

>>20563913
So you're not even denying that your reason is bullshit?
>Please learn how to play the games
Not relevant to the topic. I'd love to see some of your own clear screens, though.

>wHoM aRe yOU qUoTiNg

cancer

>>20564275
I didn't see the need, since people HAVE posted their clear screens for the longest time so anyone who's been here longer than a month would have seen your obvious lie
>Not relevant to the topic.
Sure it isn't, secondary

I CAN'T GET PAST OR TO AYA ON MOUNTAIN OF FAITH AS MARISA B

>>20563415
Don't know why are you automatically assuming that shitposting fagget is me. Also some other anons were also wondering in the previous threads about this stuff not just me.

>>20563914
Who are you quoting?

>>20565259
T¿this meme is dumb

>>20564718
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability
You can note as many examples of people posting clear screens as you want, I just need one example of someone not posting a clear screen and people not having complained about it to show that this shit started, or at the very least, restarted, not so long ago, namely last thread, and look, here's one of them in that very same thread: >>20393091
Oh, and post those clears, primary.

>>20564718
Not that guy, been playing touhou since UFO demo release, although only started visiting those threads after LoLK. Never posted clear screen ever, generaly post dialogue with beaten boss and only because post with picture draw more attention, forcing this as some unspoken rule is dumb.

>>20564757
What part are you having trouble with? How many lives do you have going in to Stage 4?

the difficulty spike between clearing a game on normal and then doing the extra stage is so tough, guess i just need to practice more

>>20564757
>MarisaB
Keep your power level between 3.00 and 3.95 and you shouldn't have any problem. If you don't want to cheese it, then just use bombs. You get so much power items at the end of Stage 4 and throughout all of Stage 5 that getting back to full power isn't an issue.

>>20568004
Stages 1-3 on Hard are usually easier than the Extra though it depends on the game. Try playing your game on Hard without necessarily aiming for a 1CC. If your game has Spell Practice then try unlocking some spellcards from the Extra and practicing those as well. It's usually possible to get through the midboss without dodging anything just by bombing, which should unlock their spellcards.

I’m trying to 1cc SA on Normal (ReimuB) but Stage 6 is raping me

>>20568144
SA is hard AF on normal

>>20563626
>LoLK appeals to EoSDfags for some reason
Not sure how this works for other players, but I personally enjoy just dodging bullets with little memorization involved and I found EoSD patterns to be very fun because of this, and PDH is essentially this. Then again, I only see that on PDH and Ringo's last spell.

>>20568144
If you can get through stage 5, you can get through stage 6.

Yo what is this spellcard
Do I need to grow a third eye to keep track of the bullets or what

>>20560577
(holy shit page ten already? What the frick is going on?)

How the fuck do you clear Kanako with only two lives? I find myself needing to bomb at least once at each phase (spell and non-spell), and I almost never have a spare life by the time I get to the last spell... How do I get good?

>>20571778
/jp/'s speed has been somewhat erratic lately. I imagine all the idol generals have something to do with it but I'll leave checking those pits to someone else.

>>20571778
Don't post like that.
Anyway, you're asking the wrong question, because the correct answer is to not get to Kanako with only two lives left. Firstly, are you getting all your score extends? If not, make sure you know how the faith system works and that you're exploiting it correctly in the early game. Secondly, if you're getting all your lives but losing a bunch before Kanako, she's the least practicable boss, so instead focus your efforts on stages 4 and 5. Also, you shouldn't need to bomb through every single one of Kanako's attacks; at least a couple of them are quite easy.

Marisa in IN is such a difficulty spike on hard.
I do fine and capture nearly every spell card stages 1-3, maybe use a bomb or two if I'm being bad, but then I make it to stage 4B.

I keep thinking her stars can't be that bad, and I lose all those extra bombs.
Every time.
Marisa just keeps raping me, and god help me I actually want her to stop.

>>20568721
One of ZUN's greatest spell cards. Nothing in EoSD or UFO or LoLK can compare. It's a great normalfag filter. Secondaries HATE that card.

>>20571863
All of the idol shit should be contained to single thread. Why does every group need their own thread, or better yet just move idols to /mu/.

>>20568144
I'm actually also working on Reimu B 1cc normal, but I think the SA's bomb mechanic is kind of throwing me off cause most of the time I die because I'm too greedy about not losing power.

>>20572529
/jp/ is containment board for shit no other board wants, not the other way around.

>>20572246
MASTER SPARK

I've only played EoSD before and I don't think I ever beat it. Is HiFS a decent way to reintroduce myself to 2hu games?

>>20575038
It's easier if you spam release. Spamming release will not help you with other games though.

>>20572246
Get to her last spellcard and witness how much easier it is than Normal.
I actually died to it several times the first time I got to it because I expected it to be a harder version of the Normal spell and started moving accordingly.
If I recall you can just stream the whole time and get an easy capture with Border Team.

>>20575038
If you abuse releases then it's probably the 2nd or 3rd easiest Normal 1CC. It's probably the most forgiving run since you can lose multiple lives without using a bomb and still have 3 or 4 left over when you clear.

>>20563822
>>20563914
seriously who are you quoting?

I finally beat this fuckfest of a game after getting slapped around by Komachi's big boobies for so long.
It felt like I just got lucky and Eiki randomly decided to run into a bullet. There wasn't even that much on her screen when it happened, she just went full Cirno. The AI in this game is so weird.

>>20582828
How many times did you die to her? The AI basically shuts off after some time.

>>20582853
I lost one life to Eiki. I was really close to losing another and was basically just micro-dodging in a corner hoping for a miracle when she finally bit it.

>>20582828
>It felt like I just got lucky
You did. That's the gimmick of the whole game, that skill doesn't matter.

>>20583326
I'd like to think it matters a little since I never beat Eiki until I changed my strategy
I just waited until there was an insane amount of bullets on screen and started spamming level 2 attacks. I got hit a bunch every time I ran out but Eiki also started taking hits and I managed to survive longer

>>20583326
git gud

Here's my gameplay of the first stage in EoSD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD2t8_wOx3I

>>20583823
>git gud at the lottery
epic

>>20584456
mad af

>>20584456
Who are you quoting?

>>20584456
who are you quoting?

Flan-chan FUCKING SUCKS

>>20584537
She's cute and one of the easiest extras though

>>20584537
I agree, she's not very good at hitting her opponents with danmaku. Definitely in the bottom half of Extra bosses by difficulty.

>>20584537
And you suck at fucking.

>>20584617
>>20584623
I don't understand this. I've cleared PCB (Ex and Ph), IN, MoF, LoLK, and HSiFS Extras and I find EoSD's Extra harder than all those. Flan is pretty easy up until Maze of Love though, most of my rage is directed at Patchy and the stage itself. Later Extra stages seem to have less randomness and easier midbosses which means I can just memorize where all the enemies come in and stream them, saving resources for the boss.

>>20588078
>I've cleared LoLK Extra
Then you're just psyching yourself out, Flan should be easy peasy.
The stage doesn't really have that much randomness, at least, not the kind that strategy can't overcome. Those fairies that shoot the spirals in the first half can be difficult because the angles are random, but you can bypass them by simply waiting until that moment to reach full power, using the last big P item from the previous wave. The big fairy before Patche can also trap you sometimes, so 50/50 I end up using a bomb there. Everything after Patche is easily streamable, except the last wave of books which can be a clusterfuck so I usually bomb it.
As for Patche, Silent Selene is usually okay as long as you don't panic and stay directly beneath her, Royal Flare is static and so has a guaranteed route to cap it, and Philosopher's Stone sucks but again, I just bomb it.
So with minimal practice, unless you get really unlucky, you should be able to make it to Flan without dying and maybe even with a bomb left.

Holy hell. I finally 1CC'ed MoF.
Interestingly enough I found it to be actually easier to 1CC it than to continue at the last stage (because you have a chance of more than two lives if you don't continue).
Which one should I attempt next?

Also, any tips for Marisa in EoSD? I have a bit of trouble doing some of the small movements needed in Meiling's spell cards.

>>20591298
Clear screen?

>>20591486
please stop this dumb meme

>>20591298
>Which one should I attempt next?
You can probably pick any of PCB, IN, and TD and be fine.

>I have a bit of trouble doing some of the small movements needed in Meiling's spell cards.
Just practice really

I just tried SA Extra for the first time and got destroyed by Sanae. Her first spellcard tricked me into thinking it would be easy with the fixed lasers and simple first 2 waves. How the fuck are you supposed to dodge the 3rd wave within such a tiny square?
This might actually be the hardest Extra unless UFO, which I haven't attempted, is somehow even harder.

>>20591298
>I have a bit of trouble doing some of the small movements needed in Meiling's spell cards.
If you hold down at the bottom of the screen and tap left and right you can move a little slower. Don't rely on this too much and get into the habit of staying at the very bottom, I only use this for specific spells and stage portions. It's most useful when you can dodge stuff with only left and right movements.

>>20595318
Stay right here, like your hitbox is sitting near the tip of the curl, and the lasers will never hit you. Once you don't have to worry about moving to dodge them, it's easier to focus on just dodging the bullets. Calmly read ahead and see which side of the square they'll pass through; the square isn't that tiny, so there's still room to dodge.
Frankly that's the easiest spell of Sanae's, and easier than the second stage potion IMO, though the entire thing is pretty terrible. Godspeed.

>>20596143
That spot is easier if you play on the Japanese version like I do. It's roughly in the middle of the character 囚 in Sanae's last dialogue box. Unfortunately I still had trouble with the bullets. Sanae's second spell didn't seem too bad if I would practice it, the 3rd one was a nightmare. The stage portion before it isn't hard to survive but I kept dying when I tried to graze to collect items so I'd have higher power.

>>20595318
>How the fuck are you supposed to dodge the 3rd wave within such a tiny square
Play Yukari and you don't need to dodge the 3rd wave.

I cant clear stage 6 in mof aaa

What should I focus on now? My fav games are PCB and IN, if that tells you anything about me. I've been practicing EoSD extra but utterly getting fucked by Patchy. Where would you put extra difficulty in the normal scale? Hard/lunatic?

>>20602937
What do the Xs represent?

>>20602992
That i cleared them 1cc

>>20603032
I'm confused. Don't the colored boxes represent this?

>>20602937
>>20603032
Did you take one of Yuyukoanon's old charts to make this or something? Get a blank one.

>>20603077
Uuuhm.. Yeah. I liked the Yuyuko.
>>20603069
I messed up.

>>20602937
HSiFS is the easiest if you abuse releases. DDC you can get an insane amount of resources but Shinmyoumaru is really tough. TD you get less resources but Miko is one of the easiest Stage 6 bosses and Futo is pretty easy too.

>>20602937
>>20603508
Well, I went ahead and 1cc'd MoF with ReimuB and I haven't played that game in months.
To clarify my previous question, since I can do 1cc normals of the easier games pretty reliably now, what's the next step in the skill progression ? Should I clear all the extras, then move to lunatic ? Or should I do 1cc hard, and then try to move to lunatic, or just skip directly to lunatic ?

>>20603615
Do the easier Extras (PCB, IN, MoF, HSiFS, LoLK if you use Reisen, maybe EoSD) and then clear the rest of the Normals. PCB Phantasm is only slightly harder than its Extra so you should do that right after since most of the spellcards are similar. The first Hard 1CC I got was PCB but IN or MoF Hard might be easier. I wouldn't even attempt Lunatic until Hard starts to feel like Normal to you.

>>20604986
You're kidding? LoLK extra is nowhere near easiers even as Reisen.

>>20604986
Bro, I tried LoLK and even Nornal seemed to hard for me. Given, I tried it at a point in time when I was so trash that that even 1cc IN seemed like a big achievement.

>>20605147
Only if you don't bomb or don't use every bomb.
>>20602937
You may want to just gray every square and then fill in whatever you got 1ccs on, it will look better that way

>>20605147
I suck and I was able to clear it with Reisen, therefore it's easy. You do have to execute the stage portions and Doremy nearly perfectly I guess, but Reisen's bomb lets you cheese so many of Hecatia's spellcards.

>>20605495
I think I just played LoLK so much that I got used to it even when I suck at the other games.

Ok I made one myself in a hurry but I still liked the colors of the other one better... I started practicing PCB extra stage, farthest I got is the spell after the rotating double swastika lasers. During the stage I only bomb the 3rd spell of the cat-lady miniboss, even twice if needed.

>>20606465
Again, that is as far as I go for now :| I feel like it's very easy and just gimmicky though.

>>20606603
extras are like that

>>20606726
I guess you are right. Funny thing i i used to think her nons were scary when i first watched a video of it some months ago

>>20606726
not really

My ex gf is a secondary and I fucking hate you seconderies so much, you're nothing but bitches and whores

>>20604986
Update: I tried hard PCB, it honestly seems easy as fuck, I should be able to get it down in 2-3 more attempts. What even changes, a couple of spells on Youmu ? Nothing compared to the difficulty spike from lunatic where even Chen rapes me.

Down, ez with Sakuya-A

>>20612791
I would love to use Sakuya, but I've got much trouble in the first non spell on Prismrivers.

>>20613924
Oh yeah. I bombed the hell out of it.

I got a 1cc in IN with reimu, but mostly thanks to bombspam so I'm not proud of it. Why does IN give you a half second to bomb after you've been hit?

>>20615274
It wastes two bombs and is a gross use of your resources unless you deathbomb on the exact frame you get killed in which case it only uses one bomb.

>>20615274
Clear screen?

>>20615274
it uses two bombs to last spell

>>20615274
Border Team and members get an even larger window.

i want to kick yumeko in the face and fuck shinki.

i want to kick sakuya in the face and fuck remilia.

i want to kick youmu in the face and fuck yuyuko.

Reimu A is by far my least favorite shot type, the dps is so fricking low

just downloaded touhou 6 for moriya shrine, playing for the first time
cant get past stage 4 on normal, how do i do smooth movements by just using arrow keys?
Everything i do seems cumbersome

>>20622266
Shift

>>20622266
vpatch

>>20622299
i am aware of this button and its function

>>20622266
Non-meme answer is just practice. Play putting conscious time into getting better.
There's a strong memory component too, it helps immensely if you know where and in what order fairies spawn, so you know how to position yourself to easily avoid stuff. Also learn how to stream (i.e. moving slowly from left to right or vice versa to dodge streams of aimed shots) if you don't do that already.

>>20622266
I suggest you play th07 or th08, since at least you can see your hitbox there.

What is the easiest stage on Level 8 of DS other than 8-3? Even after reading a guide and watching replays I can tell it's probably going to take me at least a hundred tries to clear another one and right now they all seem impossible to me so I can't judge their difficulty. 8-5 seems like it might be possible if I get really lucky with the positions of the zombie fairies.

>>20623800
Nevermind I just cleared 8-2 by sheer luck. The small blue bullets just stayed out of my way for once.

>>20622570
>>20623707
thank you frens

Who drew this? I remember reading somewhere years ago that this was done by a guest artist, but I've completely forgotten who.

>>20623707
Knowing how to play without hitbox is huge positive though.

>>20629125
I don't see how that might be a useful skill in a game that isn't EoSD.

how do i beat yumemi in podd as rikako (on nomral)
her charge is so slow and i just can't outlast yumemi's bullshit
i beat her as mima but with rikako it's harder

>>20629147
Considering you shouldn't be staring at your hitbox most of the time in any of the games, being able to feel where it is most certainly is a useful skill to have. The hitbox is only useful for micro and EoSD Normal patterns are almost entirely macro oriented so the lack of hitbox doesn't make a noticeable difference in it.

>>20629725
Weird, Rikako was my first 1cc. You know about the third bomb, right? If your meter is full and you have no bombs you can do a crazy spell thing that makes you invincible.
Also if you chain enough moons together, you give the opponent a boss. Chaining means shooting the first in a trail of them and then letting the second die in the first explosion, the third in the second’s, etc. Then you start a new chain before the first ends by shooting the first in the next chain to appear VERY quickly.
51,200 is the boss point I think, and 300k or something gets you a “boss panic”. I’d only rely on the former. Once you begin to run out of bombs I recommend trying to stay at or near a full meter so you can do that invincibility thing. And that thing gives you a super powerful shot which almost guarantees you a chain large enough to give them a boss.
Good luck anon. Once you get it down then normal Yumemi actually becomes easy.

>>20630517
I should also add that you can do the invincibility thing an unlimited number of times and that you’ll still create a chain if you hit a moon/other enemy that isn’t first in line, as long as it isn’t the last.

>>20630517
>>20630534
Thanks for the help anon. Moments after reading your post I tried again and I got it. Things get crazy near the end of the fight, where both me and the computer get crazy long chains but i just managed to survive with half a heart left

>>20630872
No problem. PoDD is one of my all-time favorite games (even outside of the series) even though it’s partially dependent on luck. But harder runs still result in higher scores. I can still only get Yumemi to half a heart on hard mode but then it feels almost like you have to beat her again. 33 million is the highest score I’ve gotten with Kotohime. I think Mima is my favorite and Rikako is my least favorite. Mima’s charge shot is OP and you can fire more bullets while she’s releasing it.

Can someone explain to me how cherry works in PCB ?
What does each of those numbers mean ? When does the border get activated ?

Another subtlety with PoDD is the spell and boss levels on the bottom left and right corners. They start at the same number as the stage you’re on, or plus 2 or 3 on hard and lunatic respectively. The spell level goes up for every meter attack and only goes up for the character launching the attack, causing more projectiles to appear per spell. The boss level increases for both characters, every time a boss is used. So the boss level maxes out super fast on the last level, making the health and attacks of the boss more intense.
To hurt difficult computers, you have to combine boss attacks with level 2/3 attacks to corner them. But at the same time they can do some unreal and impossible shit so I also think they’re timed to get hurt at certain intervals unless you can really shove a barrage in their face.
Watch two lunatic computers fight each other and you’ll see what I mean.

>>20631346
When the pink number reaches 50k you get a border. You don't care about the other 2 numbers unless you wanna score the game, since they indicate the value of the cherry items and your piv afaik

>>20631355
That's interesting. I was reading about the AI in podd and it seems like they are on a timer. So they will do unnatural dodges until a certain amount of time passes and then they will kill themselves. The ai doesn't have forsight though, and like you said, it can be cornered, which will make it use a bomb. If out of bombs, it will simply die, which doesn't count for the "timer until it kills itself"
due to this i think playing defensively works well in the game
also, i spent the last hour half clearing the game more, and i beat it with reimu, marisa and kana. just a few more characters to go. glad to say i'm getting better at the game but i'm sure a higher difficulty would kick my ass

>>20631485
But if cherry items are worth more, wouldn't I get more borders, thus have more chances of basically free bombs ?

>>20631485
yuyu!!!

>>20631346
Are you playing for score or survival? If you're just trying to get a 1CC then only the pink number is important. When it reaches 50000 you get a border. If you get hit during a border, you don't lose a life and all bullets on screen are cancelled.

If you're playing for score. The yellow number is your current cherry value which determines the value of point items. You can make it go up by shooting enemies or collecting cherry items. It goes up faster if you shoot while unfocused. This also makes the pink number go up, which is why shooting enemies unfocused is so important in scoring so you get as many borders as possible. The number on the right is your maximum cherry value. It can be increased by one by either ending a border without getting hit (or breaking it by pressing the bomb button), or by grazing while in a border. If I recall, it goes up faster if you graze unfocused. The goal of scoring is essentially to increase your cherry MAX as much as possible and keep your cherry value at cherry MAX by not using bombs and not getting hit. I tried scoring PCB on Normal but could only ever get a score of around 800 to 900 million, and never reached my goal of a billion, which is why I know this stuff.

>>20631496
not that anon but you have the right idea: playing defensively is more consistent for clearing. using level twos works well for some characters, but that's mostly due to their ex attacks (which is why yumemi and reimu can destroy the ai), and those only come out when the ai reflects a lot of the pellets and you then reflect fireballs/pellets back, so it's still a bit luck-dependent and you have to be able to handle the barrage that comes back at you. it's more for fun - to up the difficulty on the fly - and for scoring.

the one exception to bosses having timers in story mode is first-round yumemi, who can live forever. the ai can always derp (ex: get squished by fireballs), and certain characters have a decent chance at hitting her with a volley of ex attacks, but you need to get to her with an extra life if you want a guaranteed shot at victory.

grats on the kana clear. kana can't do shit to bosses, so unless you had crazy luck, that was all you.

>>20631496
I also have beaten it with four characters. But for some reason I’m stubborn as hell and won’t let myself go further on anything lower than hard. Maybe I’ll go back and do it just for the story.

EZ

>>20632270
please get your mouse off the alice!

>>20632307
How else would he drag her to the Recycle Bin where she belongs?

>>20632324
yeah well you belong permanently deleted, you gross fag!

Stage 4 in HSiFS normal just completely destroys me. I don't think there's a single pattern in the entire stage I can get through without feeling like I did it entirely on luck.

>>20632390
What shot/season anon? I can make a replay for you.

>>20632448
Marisa winter

>>20632390
The easy way: save up bombs on stages 1-3 and then spam them on stage 4. You get a large amount of bombs if you clear every spell card up to stage 4, even using season releases. The best time to bomb is usually when there's a lot of bullets on screen because it lets you fill up your season gauge.

>>20632452
https://mega.nz/#!9b4AlIbR!yEi0A87P5K0MtZJII2VL_o3AoP-u6BlaDWBcUraH9Gc
Fucked up the last spell but I'm too lazy to restart. I highly recommend bombing the section before the boss and the two later spells.

>>20632496
Bomb spamming is no fun though, anon.

>>20632506
Thanks anon, very helpful. Made a lot of things I was doing poorly immediately obvious.

Opinion on AoCF?

>>20634213
It's fun but the netplay is shit and the playerbase is smaller than the dot on top of the letter i, making it extremely difficult to actually play with anyone unless you have friends that are willing to.

>>20632270
I'm on a fricking roll!

>>20637047
nice job
i was wondering, do you use vpatch?

>>20639127
I do, the game runs at way too many fps otherwise.

>>20632507
As opposed to release spamming?

>>20640747
Release spamming is no fun either.

>>20632507
>Bomb spamming is no fun though
RIP scoring lmao

>>20640780
You bomb differently if you're bombing for score than if you're spamming them to get through sections you can't otherwise get through.

I just found out Cactu quit. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Not that it matters.

>>20643669
Who?

>>20643803
Someone I used to watch play EoSD for score.

Where can I buy the games if I'm in EU ?

>>20643854
Sounds like an e-celeb.
Why did you bring up an e-celeb?
What does that have to do with Touhou Gameplay?

>>20644120
Some Japanese online retailers will ship internationally. Mandarake for example probably has a stock of the games. You could try J-List as well. Depending on where you live in the EU your local Amazon might have sellers, but I'd expect pretty large markups by them (possibly worth it depending on how much international shipping to your country would be, though).

>>20644896
Neat! On Mandarake PCB+Shipping is like 18yurocoins vs 33 from scamazon

>>20645206
Worth noting most things on Mandarake are used. If that's a problem for you, make sure the item is specifically listed as new, or order somewhere else.

>>20645318
Uh oh... I already ordered it.
If it says "Brand New" under information but under Condition the field is blank, it should be new right ?

>>20645348
>If it says "Brand New" under information but under Condition the field is blank, it should be new right ?
Yes, I'd be surprised if it wasn't new if it says it's brand new. Item information is entered by people who work for Mandarake, it's not like eBay where people make their own listings.

Guys I just captured the card 5 times in a row, it's finally happening (maybe)

>>20645361
Alrighty then. If everything goes well I'll get EoSD, IN and MoF too. Thank you very much, anon!

>>20645365
For what purpose?

>>20644218
When you get to scoring e-celebs are a necessary evil.

>>20644218
How are not well known players not related tot eh games is this a joke? Do e-celebs as you call them make you feel insecure?

>>20645407
To git gud and for the challenge. It's an unlearnable newfriend filter spell card, so I want to get good enough to capture it reliably.

how do I become a touhou e-celeb?

>>20645573
Not him but get out of /jp/. Go back to sucking off your ecelebs on YouTube or Twitch or something. You clearly don't understand this website's culture.
>>20646009
You have be either a very ugly and accented European or a femboi American. Oh and you have to be extremely annoying 100% of the time. And you have to constantly praise kusoge like EoSD and UFO.

>>20646043
So that's a yes?

>>20646043
what about an ugly american? Do you think I can make it

>>20646083
>so that's a yes
Not the person you were originally talking to. Deal.with the fact that not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person. You have too stop being schizophrenic. This is an anonymous website for the most part. The majority hate ecelebs. Now go back to performing fellatio for them on Discord.
>>20646145
Sorry, that doesn't cut the bill.

>>20646221
You probably want to look into "filters" and "post hiding" to deal with posts you don't like instead of sperging out, though I'm more than certain that your goal here isn't thread quality improvement.
>Deal.with the fact that not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person.
This is hilarious to me for reasons you won't believe.

>>20646043
Found the retard that thinks UFOs are difficult.

>>20646043
Way to avoid both questions anon, now if only you were that good at dodging bullets
>>20646468
Probably the PoFV autist too

>>20645573
Nothing is being added to the conversation by mentioning a known player. The most value that can be gained is bringing up a replay they have as a resource for someone that needs assistance in one of the games but considering people flipped their shit when someone dared to even do that, it's clearly not welcomed here.

>>20646612
>but considering people flipped their shit when someone dared to even do that, it's clearly not welcomed here.
What?

>>20646633
In one of the more recent threads, someone needed PCB help and one of the replies brought up a PCB LNNN and named the player so the person knew what to search for and for whatever stupid reason, at least one person decided to have a cow because of nonsense surrounding e-celebs.

>>20646664
I guarantee you that the majority of people don't care whatsoever and it's a few, if not a single sperg that flips out at the slightest mention of a name.

My wrists started bothering me, so I decided I'd try switching to keyboard from gamepad. I played way worse, and my wrists felt somewhat better, but still not good. I think this is it boys, my Touhou career is over.

>>20646873
>to keyboard from gamepad
Normally its the other way around when it comes to wrist problems, you go from kb to controller. Also, EoSD main?

>>20646908
>Normally its the other way around when it comes to wrist problems
Just figured changing it up might help, since the problem was manifesting while I was playing with a gamepad.

>EoSD main?
I've been playing HSiFS.

>>20646873
You're likely fine. Take a break for now and let your body recover before you do irreparable damage. In the future take breaks during long sessions. Also you can do stretches like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYGfDCGrJ4A

I also recommend stretches like these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSrfB7JIzxY they make your hands and fingers feel good and responsive. Just try it once and see for yourself.

>>20646664
You've already spent more posts talking about the drama than the drama even took. For >>20646633's benefit, it's >>20393252 : two dorks called each other names and talked in hyperbole for a few posts.

>>20646385
A couple years ago you would be laughed off and called a faggot for talking about ecelebs but /jp/ is progressively being filled with normalfags so those days are disappearing. Still stand by what I said though. Ecelebs are hated throughout most of the boards, this is not a thing exclusive to these threads.
>>20646468
Kuso mechanic, kuso game. Lots of people share this opinion.
>>20646520
Again with the "everyone I don't like is the same person" meme? Stop being schizophrenic, I thought I told you this already. I answered the questions already. Ecelebs are cancerous attentionwhores. And their orbiters are worse. This is an anonymous board.

>>20646938
Oh I read your post wrong. The second link is probably a lot more useful for keyboard users.

I'm the one who brought up the "e-celeb" in the first place. He was someone who inspired me to get better at these games. This is the only place I can talk about Touhou with anyone. Looking back it was pointless to bring it up though. There's not much to talk about. I just felt like I wanted to say something I guess.

>>20646938
>>20646968
Thanks for the stretch videos anon.

>>20647001
np I hope you get better soon.

>>20646964
>A couple years ago you would be laughed off and called a faggot for talking about ecelebs but /jp/ is progressively being filled with normalfags so those days are disappearing. Still stand by what I said though. Ecelebs are hated throughout most of the boards, this is not a thing exclusive to these threads.
A couple years ago mentioning particular players meant nothing because getting into a fit over someone well-known being mentioned is retarded, and the term "e-celeb" barely even existed. Meanwhile "e-celeb" is pretty distinctly a /v/ term and you should probably go back there.

>>20647092
Whatever the terminology, no one likes attentionwhores from YouTube. You need to go back to Discord.

>>20646964
>I thought I told you this already
You didn't. You told that to somebody else. Not everyone that calls you on your shit is the same person.

>>20647120
Spergs like you are the ones that actually give them any more attention that they didn't already have.

>>20647120
>Whatever the terminology, no one likes attentionwhores from YouTube

see

>>20647092
>getting into a fit over someone well-known being mentioned is retarded

>>20646964
>Lots of people share this opinion.
Lots of fuckin' casuals share that opinion, more like. Git gud.

>>20647154
>calls you on your shit
This isn't fucking Twitter you eternal newfag. Ecelebs are cancer. Period.
>>20647159
Still doesn't make ecelebs any better. And it's kind of retarded how you say that yet you reply anyway, adding to this useless discussion.
>>20647323
Again, stop sucking off e-attention whores. Stop defending these people like its a personal attack holy shit. It makes it seem like you're one of them. And if you're gonna make the argument that the only reason you're replying is because I'm supposedly retarded or some shitposter that's ruining the thread then fuck off. You're the who keeps on replying, so you're contributing to it.

>>20646996
I don't follow the "scene" anymore so it was interesting to know for me. I think cactu did for EoSD what he could... so many players were inspired and supported by him, for one. EoSD will live.

>>20647565
Autist

I've done nothing but practice Phantasm stage all day for 3 days and the farthest I go is the laser-circle survival spell HELP

>>20649186
I really sucked at that card. There's not much else to do but keep practicing. You can watch a replay if you already haven't. Make sure you're liberally using bombs. You have tons of resources. You can also hit the bomb button right before your cherry border fades to screen clear bullets.

>>20647654
So EoSDfags are e-celeb shitters? Is that what's going on here?

>>20650666
It's not like he was some random guy. He was a WR holder. You don't ever watch superplays or anything? That's how I got into playing these games to begin with. I was blown away and thought I'd like to be able to do that.

>>20650736
>It's not like he was some random guy. He was my gay lover.
Who gives a shit.

Why are 3rd gen games so weird man, I already 1cc'ed 6 and 8 yet I can barely reach 5th stage on 14, I always end up dying to some tiny scattered bullet that I couldn't see in the background.

>>20651745
What difficulty are you playing on?

>>20651771
I'm referring to normal in all cases.

>>20651745
Have you made it to the final boss yet? What do you think about the fight?

>>20651745
HSiFS at least had too much visual noise going on for me, especially in certain season/stage combinations

>>20651745
You're going to love Shinmyoumaru. She's the hardest stage 6 boss to me, the only thing that makes DDC easy is the insane amount of resources you can get.
If you have a shitty monitor you might need to play around with color settings and brightness to make it easier to see.

>>20652033
In HSiFS it's just the first two stages where I have trouble seeing bullets, especially stage 2. There's a part towards the end of the stage with fairies shooting yellow bullets that are the same color as the background, luckily they're easy to dodge even on Lunatic. Some spell cards with flashing animations (the one of Nemuno's where you can go crazy with Autumn comes to mind) make it hard to see as well. Given how broken the game is, I think it was done on purpose to artificially increase the difficulty.

>>20652095
>the only thing that makes DDC easy is the insane amount of resources you can get
I was going to mention this. Get good at PoCing. I also love the PoC mechanic in these games. Is that original to Touhou or was it influenced by another game?

>>20652111
>Is that original to Touhou
I've never played another shmup with a PoC mechanic like Touhou. It's usually either you get close to the item and it gravitates to you or you have to actually go on top of the item. A lot of time power-up items, bombs, and extends will bounce around the screen kind of like UFO items. I think in Seihou you collect items by grazing while focused.

In the PC-98 games points are worth more the higher up you collect them but I don't think there's any PoC where you can automatically collect them. Even in EoSD and some of the games after it you can't collect items by going above the PoC without being at max power

>>20652192
Kinda like that graze item collection from SA? I liked that too. Ya I think everything after MoF you can PoC without max power. Border team's special ability from IN can also thinking about it. Anyway if PoC is original then I gotta hand it to ZUN.

>>20652236
Oh you can also do it in PCB's extra stages.

>>20650666
They're not autistic and have human interactions.

I'm going to namedrop good players and not post my clear screens and say thanks in upload threads and nobody's going to stop me

>>20648123
>>20652596
>autism
>they're not autsitic
Qhere do you think you are? Reddit? This website os for autistic people. Stop sucking off your normalfag eceleb gods. It's sad. You still can't let it go. You seem obsessed with protecting and defending ecelebs. You're either one of them or an orbiter. In any case, get out.

>>20652095
>You're going to love Shinmyoumaru. She's the hardest stage 6 boss to me, the only thing that makes DDC easy is the insane amount of resources you can get.
Actually tried out 14 just for Sukuna, rather play 10.
>If you have a shitty monitor you might need to play around with color settings and brightness to make it easier to see.
huh maybe that's it, going to try to play on a monitor rather than my laptop screen.

>>20652640
Ahh you had bombs left too. That had to be frustrating. Also I suck at that spell card.

>>20652622
>autsitic
>Qhere
>os
Jesus.

>>20652622
>>>/r9k/
And I'd love to know what definition of "normalfag" you're using there because last I checked people dumping thousands of hours playing niche-ass Japanese shooters for score wasn't one of them.

>>20652640
>huh maybe that's it, going to try to play on a monitor rather than my laptop screen.
That would do it. I've heard a CRT monitor works best but I don't have room on my desk for one.

>>20652655
>Also I suck at that spell card.
It's pretty easy with practice. Try watching a replay that captures it. The trick is to dodge the red butterfly bullets before they expand. The other butterfly bullets are better dodged at the bottom of the screen. You will want to be lined up horizontally with Yuyuko the whole time and move horizontally as little as possible. When you get good at it there's a time before Yuyuko starts firing lasers you can go to the top of the screen and collect items if you're not in a border. It feels great to capture it to top off a run.

>>20652682
Ah yes, the good ole' haha you made typos that means your entire argument is invalid thing. Fuck
>>20652686
Calling someone a normalfag is /r9k/ now? How new could you be? Ecelebs are always normalfags, no matter what the hobby. They're attentionwhores with legions of whiteknights who will defend them on all corners of the internet (like you).

>>20652695
Thanks for the tips. I'll keep them in mind for next time I play PCB. I don't think I captured it even once but I did practice it and watched a replay. The only thing I got out of it was to dodge before they opened up too. But maybe the extra info will help.

>>20652709
Actually it all makes sense now. All I have to do is imagine you're talking about a certain other kind of "e-celeb" and you become the spitting image of a robot. Not sure why you're conflating the two but you do you, I guess. I'm out.

>>20652709
You don't even know what the fuck is a normalfag, newb.

>>20647654
If only you were there when he was begging everyone to play EoSD. That level of cringe and annoying others is unreal. Even now I think he still lurks EoSD streams, occasionally backseat coaching any new players he sees.
It really is pathetic.

>>20653125
What is it about that kusoge that attracts the worst fags imaginable?

>>20653125
Well, game partisanship is an idea wholly beyond my understanding. I can entertain the thought, but I can't feel it. I suppose cactu didn't plan for that either.

>>20653125
So what happened to him? Last I heard he broke his wrist or something. Was that permanent?

>>20652794
Just because I don't worship your Internet Idols thateans I'm a robot from /r9k/? Get out of /jp/ with this shit logic. This is an anonymous image board, no one likes ecelebs.
>>20653122
Worshipping an eceleb is typical normalfag behavior, dunce.

>>20653235
>>20653286
Here's a better question: Does any of that have anything to do with Touhou Gameplay?

>>20653378
No. It's just pointless drama that has no place on this website. Internet personalities never belonged here. The days of tripfags and namefags on /jp/ have long been over.

>>20653378
I'd say to some extent it does. Cactu has been the object of some pretty cringe overpraise mainly for his former WR (maybe also the score LNN?) but the primary thing he's done has actually been to show people how to play, or that they -could- play, often through direct interaction. So cactu isn't so much an e-celeb that you donate to on patreon or whatever but more like a guy you've talked to who loves EoSD, is actually "world class" skilled and freely offers advice and encouragement as well as participates (participated) in finding new routes. I can think of roughly two reasons why people could hate that: they have an irrational hateful response to EoSD being widely played, or they are, perhaps, completely out of touch.

So when thinking of cactu, all I can think of is gameplay this and gameplay that, even though the man himself isn't "gameplay". I suppose it depends on whether you participate in the "scene" or not.

>>20653469
other explanation: no one likes ecelebs, especially not ones that were former shitposters on this very general

>>20653477
Honestly I don't feel comfortable debating with the word eceleb being used as key point since I have a limited understanding of what it means anyway. Kind of odd to see it used on the premise of defending /jp/ values when it seems external to /jp/.

>>20653469
>cringe
Disgusting. I'm not going to read any more of this drivel. Get the fuck out of my thread with your e-celeb cock suckery.

>>20653527
Good to know I killed you with a single word. It was there for special effect. lol

>>20653469
He was the textbook definition of an attentionwhore. He was also a tranny for some time but lets not get into that. You can move on from this literal ghost now.

>>20653573
Oh yeah one thing I noticed. The fag/tranny ratio is really high for Touhou e-celebs because it's super easy to become "good" in the community (big fish tiny pond) which attracts attention whores

>>20653527
>my thread
ah, this is how you know what posts to disregard completely.

>>20653573
Eh. Well I could be the one with autism then if people truly dislike cactu. Didn't know about the tranny thing either. I'll let it go.

>>20653551
>lol
you need to go back

>>20653614
This is a forbidden word but "e-celeb" isn't? Am I even on /jp/?

>>20653631
Not him but both are pretty shit words that don't belonf here but at least one is derogatory and used against people we don't like. The other is just Reddit incarnate. Same with "cringe". But this is not gameplay related so I suggest you stop arguing with people about trivial things that should best left be ignored. Stop provoking autists.

>>20653648
If I understand you right... "derogatory", "used against people 'we' don't like" has to be "e-celeb"... so by "Reddit incarnate" you mean "lol"??? I just want to say, what??? WTF? I wouldn't have replied but this is hilarious. I have used the word since the very early 2000s in online gaming and it was already a word with a long history back then. I guess it needs to be spelled LOL or L.O.L. to make it more Usenet-like?

In some way, I would that I could go back to a time when "lol" didn't earn you the "go back to r*ddit" response that is the canned phrase "you have to go back". And don't reply to me, please. Just think on how little you know for what you want to be.

>>20653707
Yes yes yes and ragefaces and LOLSORANDOM humor were also extremely popular on the internet during the early 2000's internet. Your point? You'd get called Reddit for posting an image macro or posting a rageface the same way you're getting called Reddit for seemingly unironically using "lol" and "cringe". Cry about it all you want but nothing stays the same.

>>20653707
>???
>WTF
>???
>L.O.L.
Leave.

>>20653728
Kids these days...

So like Yu-suke's pretty good at PCB, huh?

>>20653819
what shitty bait

>>20653507
>since I have a limited understanding of what it means anyway
don't worry so do they

all done with touhou 3, now it's time for lotus land story

somehow, i cleared lotus land story on the first try using reimu. of course it was rough and i died a lot, i kept thinking the run was ruined because i died to much. but i persevered and somehow beat yuuka. it was exhilarating, just being completely in the zone against the final boss, just focusing so hard, whilst the chorus of inanimate dream played. really was expecting to die. now i'll try to die less with marisa.

>>20655008
i'm also feeling pretty ecstatic about being able to say "i beat a touhou game on the first attempt" even if it's on normal, and i barely made it. it feels good to know that the effort you put in to improve pays off, and i know i'm better than i used to be (with much room for improvement still)

Since I was getting pissed at Yukari raping me I went ahead and bullied her pet, this time with ReimuB. Attaching clear screen for that one autist.

Anyone played Fantastic Danmaku Festival? Is it any good?

>>20655127
Played it a while ago while I was still uber-noob mode, so I can't say how good or difficult it is, but the art and some spells are very visually pleasing.

>>20655008
LLS is my all time favourite game. Haven't played it in ages though.

>>20655157
i really enjoyed playing it, don't know what the extra stage is like, i'm looking forward to it but it's probably out of reach for someone of my skill level right now

>>20655225
ZUN once described Gengetsu as "the most terrible, most fearful boss", but that was a long time ago. Personally I don't find her particularly hard and in my opinion she's easier than at least Koishi, Nue, Flandre and Mokou.

>>20655274
what about in comparison to pc98 only

>>20655360
I find Alice harder, but still pretty manageable. Haven't tried SoEW extra.

>>20655119
Oops I did it again, with MarisaA!

>>20655274
Indeed. She doesn't have many threatening patterns. Mugetsu on the other hand, does have one that is quite difficult, at least for me.

>>20655697
She does have that one, part of her opener, where you have to squeeze quite a bit to fit. Still, I think Gengetsu's finisher is more difficult, at least for me. But what Mugetsu lacks in difficulty, she makes up for in cuteness >>20647396. Not that Gengetsu isn't top cute too.

>>20655127
The original release is quite fun if you like your stgs difficult. The steam version is basically EoSD 0.5 because the difficulty was massively toned down and I don't think it's nearly as good as a result.

>>20655781
Can someone translate this to actual English?

Touhou gameplay is art !

>>20657109
What is this? Where is this? Why is this? Please post some context.

>>20657125
What : recorded gameplay of Imperishable Night
Where : Bibliothèque nationale de Lyon
Why : exhibition about games in general (including board games)
Context : educating plebeians

I've been working on Phantasm for PCB, and I just now realized that I never vpatched it. All of a sudden, I can actually avoid bullets. I feel like a fucking idiot, but I'm also slightly proud of myself for clearing Extra without it.

>>20657471
What's a vpatch?

>>20657567
They're patches that reduce input lag. It's recommended to use them.

>>20657672
Don't tell me that all this time I may have been blaming my keyboard for nothing? How do I know whether I have the patch for a particular game or not? Do any of them come prepatched from moriya shrine?

Also here's a link to various things you might find useful https://maribelhearn.github.io/tools

>>20657691
I don't think they come pre-patched with the vsync patches.

>>20657714
So all of my lunatic 1ccs and extra clears could've been acquired with much less pain and suffering after all...

I set my games up so long ago I'm having a hard time remembering. I think you launch the game with the vpatch.exes so you likely haven't been playing with them.

>>20657730
Well EoSD has a lot of input lag. I'm not sure about the other games. The more recent ones it might not make a difference.

>>20657744
Most of my 1ccs are from the older games. IN looks empty, but that's mainly because I couldn't find my old replays after I started the chart and decided not to mark up anything without actual proof of the clear, despite the fact that I'm certain that I had more hard 1ccs from that game.

>>20657761
It definitely makes a difference. I just tried PCB without and it controls like shit.

I would have thought the vpatch and its usefulness would be common knowledge at this point.

>>20657730
I don't even notice a difference with the newer games. LoLK seems more responsive WITHOUT the vpatch, even.

>>20657806
Too bad it gives me an error on start up and doesn't work. Guess I'm stuck playing them the way I have up until now. Luckily EoSD, PCB or IN aren't hard games, so it's not a huge deal.
>>20657853
Good to know. LoLK is the one game I need to have running at the best possible performance if I ever want to have even a chance at legacy mode 1ccs above normal.

>>20657691
Do you have a file called vpatch.exe and a corresponding vpatch.ini ?

>>20657962
I didn't, but they aren't working now that I've got them.
t.>>20657935

>>20657962
Nevermind, got it to work.

After quickly trying out PCB after getting the vsync patch to work the only thing I've got to say is that it feels like a whole different game. I never realized just how bad the input lag actually was. Thank you for introducing the patch to me. Are there any other essentials that people usually know about before they get their first lunatic 1cc?

>>20658077
Play without a translation patch. That's how people know you're a cool and epic superplayer who doesn't give a fuck about the story, only the bullets (seriously why do so many tards play on japanese, it's like some sort of autistic sign of status for them). And no, most of them do not know Japanese.

>>20658118
I think they use the thcrap translation, which can't work under vpatch. So they play with the default language.

>>20658118
Vsync automatically starts the original japanese version. If I wanted to play with the translation patch, I'd apparently need to do some renaming. I doubt I'll do that until I play a game I haven't cleared yet, since I've seen the endings and read the dialogue so many times by now. Also, just tried out PoFV with the vsync patch. Normally I'd somewhat struggle to clear Komachi's extra scenario, but this time I cleared it immediately without even trying my best and got a new high score. If only I've had known that the patch existed sooner.

>>20658077
It's useful to know how to use spoilerAL to practice. It allows you practice spellcards and bosses without playing through entire stages. Useful for games that don't have spell practice built in. You can also skip to certain parts of the game with the frameskip option similar to a save state.

>>20658165
>>20658208
vsync has worked with thpatch for a while now though
sounds like you guys are just lazy to set things up

>>20658077
like >>20658216 said while i was typing, spoileral is great for practice (ex: freeze timers so you can practice boss attacks as long as you want). there's one in the link that another anon posted (along with a lot of other good stuff), but here's an english-translated version of the program: https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,21105.0.html

other links, although most of the important stuff is in the other anon's link:
http://eientei.boards.net/thread/1105/touhou-patches-compilation
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications

there's also a vpatch for pofv multiplayer that isn't anywhere else that i could find: https://anonfile.com/gfJap9eab4/.. originally from https://twitter.com/kaei_adonis/status/8725524165 (creator of adonis).

>>20658237
>sounds like you guys are just lazy to set things up
I'm not denying that, since I haven't even tried to get the translation to work. Getting the patch itself to run was the first priority.

It's obvious if you read the readme but make sure you use the latest version of the vpatches for each game.

>>20658216
>>20658241
I guess spell card practice could be a good idea to help with problem cases. A few of Nue's cards and Ran's timeout come to mind. I already got a PCB extra no miss clear without vsync, but no miss no bomb seemed pretty unattainable when I've never even captured Ran's timeout before.

>>20658216
>>20658241
>that trash for cheaters
>"vital"
I have more Lunatic 1ccs than you do and I haven't used that shit once. It is nowhere near the absolute necessity that is vpatch.

>>20658459
It's not vital just useful.

>>20658459
>I have more Lunatic 1ccs than you do
You sure about that?

>>20560577
I just 1CC'ed Imperishable Night B with the Spirit Team!

Small question though, I'm looking through the game's menus and on one team, I have "Final B Clear" and on the 1CC one I have "All Clear"... What's the difference? I thought you couldn't get Final B without first clearing Final A? And I didn't 1CC Final A, so that's not the issue.

Does this even matter? Probably not, but I'm just curious.

>>20658534
Not him but it doesn't matter either way. I think people should be aware it exists and decide if they want to use it or not for themselves.

>>20658539
I'm not sure. Mine says "final A,B clear" for the ones I did both with.

>>20658539
Doesn't matter if it's not a 1cc

>>20657761

>>20658118
Hard patches screw over your game, thcrap is in fact, crap and the games look better in jap.
Those are my motives at least, I already read all the dialogues back then when I played normal mode so there is no need. There is also the fact that spAL only works in japanese games.

>>20658459
People that use practice tools don't do it for 1ccs anon. They do it for NB/NM or scoring, which is fair.

>>20659511
thcrap isn't a hard patch
Your motives seem ill-researched

>>20659654
I never said hard, I used to have thcrap with vpatch, you just edit some file with notepad++, that's not the point.

>>20659661
You did and from this post, it appears you don't even know what "hard" means

>>20659661
>I never said hard

>>20659674
I misread that. Read my first post again will you? I mentioned hard patches but I didn't say thcrap was one.

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>>20582861
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See? That's exactly why I hate PoFV so much, there's about to no actual skill invoved. You just need to hope that the AI will not do a humanly impossible dodge and eventually run into your bullets while still hoping to not get trapped by her bullets since there aren't any bullet patterns. Not to metion that to do an full clear you need to beat that shit for about 14 times including the 2 Extra stages with komachi and Eiki. Instead of happy for beating it, I just felt angrily relieved. I'm glad that zun didn't make anymore bullshit games like that one

>>20658118
Why would I waste my time installing a bad translation patch?

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>>20657846

In a Touhou Gameplay Thread shouldn't have OP explaning things like vpatch, translation, or linking usefull programs like the boss/sub boss spell practice mods for the newer games and shit like that? Someone should make one

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>>20659941
No. It's a tradition to have these threads look as plain and un-general-like as possible. Besides, if you want it then you make it first.

>>20660020
>New
You really are.

>>20659511
>There is also the fact that spAL only works in japanese games.
chink stgs btfo

>>20660020
>It's a tradition to have these threads look as plain and un-general-like as possible.
And you say this while doing the general-like thing of chaining threads together by linking.

>>20660020
>It's a tradition to have these threads look as plain and un-general-like as possible
So why are making new thread while are we on page 3.

>>20659511
>thcrap is in fact, crap
As said by the faggot that wants wanton swearing in his videogames to feel mature.

Why are avatarfags such shit?

>>20660036
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>>20660026
This is how generals work, cry harder SAtards.
>he doesn't play EoSD
SA is just a bootleg EoSD.

>>20660072
who quote
Is this what EoSDtards are really like? What is it abour that game that attracts so much cancer?

>>20660020
>New
Anon we're only on page 3.

>>20660020

>Besides, if you want it then you make it first.

So I guess you fags are just lazy, I'll try to make one next time then since there's no point for not having one and will end up helping everyone

>>20660072
who quote
Is this what EoSDtards are really like? What is it about that game that attracts so much cancer?

>>20660088
Better a newfag like him instead of a Europoor or SEAnig.

>>20660072
>SAtards
>>20660108
>Europoor
>SEAnig
I can't tell if this is some butthurt EoSD hater falseflagging or if this is what EoSDretards are truly like, and that's a problem.

Can you stop talking to yourself?

Did someone link this thread on /v/ again?

>>20660091
How about you just go to the shitty /vg/ threads instead of trying to turn these into them.

Reminder that this is one giant falseflag by newfags (i.e. those who endorse and defend ecelebs)

>>20660170
You're just asking for more drama or is that your intention?

>>20660170
Considering the amount of effort you put into this you really need to cover up your tracks better. It's painfully obvious who's doing this. Trust me. I took my schizo meds today.

>>20660189
>>20660197
Are you guys implying thats it's not a newfag? Okay, whatever. Just supplied an easy and obvious explanation. This general has been infested by newfags and these replies are proof.

imagine sucking the dicks of ecelebs so hard that you actually support shitposters

Meido is slacking.

meido he made fun of my youtube idol, arrest him!

EoSDposters being banned from these threads when?

>>20660259
Hopefully soon. Tired of muh "epic books" retards and scoretards.

>>20660259
That's an unattainable dream, anon.

>>20660267
The only times books have even been mentioned lately in these threads are from people complaining about EoSD players. Scoretards at least keep the games alive since they always have higher goals to aim for. Survival players have a hard limit since you can't set a higher goal after LNNFS/LNNNFS in games.

>>20660344
you seem to be ignoring the OP

>>20660344
>LNNNFS
How many do you know that has achieved this in every game with every shottype and every [other stuff like noreleases and shit]?
This is like saying "Scoretards have a hard limit since you can't set a higher score than 9,999,999,999"

>>20660392
>and every [other stuff like noreleases and shit]
That's what the third N is anon.

>>20660422
I thought it stood for No Vertical and he was shortening to a single N like No Bombs and No Misses, and he put it separate since I don't think it's possible in every game (I'm pretty sure Clownpiece would render it impossible for LoLK, at least). Could be another thing to add for those games in which it is possible, though.

>>20660055
>that wants wanton swearing in his videogames
Literally said that any translation patch is shit

>>20660211
I wish I knew what the word newfag means these days.

>>20660871
Traditionally if a third N is used it's used to mean no release, or no [whatever other gimmick specific to the game].

>>20660392
>this is like saying Scoretards have a hard limit since you can't set a higher score than 9,999,999,999
Lmfao, this is so stupid, just what you'd expect of someone that thinks people are doing lunatic no bomb no miss no vertical I guess.
No, something that's theoretically impossible is not the same as something that dozens of people have done when it comes to hard limits.

>>20659483
That's a nice idea, I never noticed the color codes on the chart before. I'll probably start using this and keep the old chart as it is incase I ever want to check what clear or 1cc I managed to get without vpatch. Btw, nice touch on the color choices, especially the red of EoSD and the pink of PCB.

This vsync thing is absolutely amazing. Got a new lunatic 1cc on my first try without even trying my best until I faced Yuyuko.

>>20662052
PCB is particularly bad without vpatch if I recall correctly.

>>20661198
>completely dodging the actual point
Epic

>>20660344
> Survival players have a hard limit
I think most people will never run out of survival challenge content.

>>20660392
This is a false equivalency. It's true that the games have caps in place due to programming but they're far from humanly attainable currently other than through an underflow bug in DDC. This is why score players always have higher goals to work towards because nobody can truly say that a game has been solved until the cap can be achieved. There's always room for potential improvement and people who desire it enough will put in the effort to try and come out on top. With survival play you can't play better than not dying and capturing every pattern. You can certainly invent challenges like No Focus or 90 FPS to make it harder but the game isn't going to differentiate your perfect clear from anyone elses.

>>20663045
>but they're far from humanly attainable currently
So I ask the question again. How many people do you know that have attained a LNNNFS in every game with every shottype? And if your answer isn't "all of them" then there you have higher goals for the survival players to strive towards.

Scoreshittery is also an invented challenge the game doesn't give a shit about, you fucking retard. The game isn't going to suck your dick because you got a trillion gorillion brazillion points by being a total autist any more than it will for 0cc with the Ultra patch at max FPS and with the X key taped down.

>>20663117
People really have this type of opinion? I get that you might not like certain players that play for score but to hate scoreplay?

>>20663186
I can't say I'm surprised scorefaggots are the type to want circlejerks.

I finally fucking did it!

>>20660344
>can't set a higher goal after LNNFS/LNNNFS
timing out the most difficult attacks, especially those that become harder after a certain amount of time, would be more challenging than pure fs.

there's also stuff listed here >>20663045, although it has curious caveats:
>You can certainly invent challenges
>the game isn't going to differentiate
a challenge is either more difficult or it isn't. it doesn't matter if a game gives marks for it. you could argue that some challenges are silly, but that's about it.

also, if folks can lnnnfs at 90fps, then they can try it at 120fps. or at 180fps. scoring might have a higher theoretical cap because computing power is a restriction, but that's moot when human limits are taken into consideration.

also, as an aside, i'm not convinced that a game dies if a score stops going up or if no new survival challenges are achieved.

>>20663641
Nice job. What do you plan to do next?

>>20663691
No idea. I even cleared extra with all characters when taking a break from phantasm. Either Phantasm with more characters, lunatic practice, or move on to th08 extra

>>20663772
Cool. Keep up the good work.

>>20663772
Whoever drew that picture is a faggot.

>>20663865
What makes you say that ?

>>20663899
Because of the god awful pun, what else?
Though you don't strike me as someone whose first language is English so you probably didn't notice it.

>>20664097
Nope, no idea what you're talking about, but the girls are cute.

>>20663117
How is score play invented when every game starting from the seventh has an entire mechanic built into the game that's designed for players to use to achieve high scores.

>>20663301
I'm not a score player and I don't play for high end survival play either. It doesn't prevent me from recognizing that score play has a higher ceiling to aim for than survival play though.

>>20664286
How is survival play invented when every game starting from the first is structured to where you "win" it with a survival run.

"My beloved scoreshittery has a higher ceiling than playing the games properly" =/= "My beloved scorefuckery has no ceiling therefore it's the only thing that matters"
Stop backpedalling, you piece of scoretard shit.

lmao at these retards desu

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