/jp/ - Otaku Culture

oh fuck me wrong number

>>20643253
Got some of my first mature words. Pretty happy about that.

its ok the numbers are like the points on whose line is it anyway they dont matter

its the same fuckin thread every time

anyway lets start it off proper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5y4L4bneyM#t=77

also this vids really important if u wanna learn nihongo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg

>>20643253
Can someone please translate this?

日本語・日本文化に関する分野を主専攻として専攻している者。
なお、日本語・日本文化に関する分野以外を主専攻とする者で、学習の一環として日本の諸事情（工学・経済・農学・建築・美術等）を学習する者は対象としない。

>>20643253
>You can do it anon I believe in you

>>20643448
jamal

>>20643448
A person majoring in fields related to Japanese · Japanese culture as the major major.
In addition, those who mainly major in fields other than Japanese-Japanese culture and who are studying various circumstances of Japan (engineering, economics, agriculture, architecture, art, etc.) as a part of learning are not included.

>>20643510
what ?

>>20643301
一二三

>>20643536
What does this mean?

>>20643546
>mature words
>doesn't even remember them

>>20643555
So irs 6? Why would japanese write it like this

I'm beginning to see why people say Anki is bad for you.

>>20643301
>linux
Not gonna make it

flashcards are dangerous

Invested eight years of my life for this, do not make the same mistake
Do not learn japanese

maybe entertain urself with something more entertaining than anime cum

absolutely roflmaoing at anyone who learns japanese just to end up not liking otaku media

>>20643900
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

I will learn japanese so i can translates stuff to german and totally btfo the english audience. Go fuck yourself Amerifats

id just like to interject for a moment わたしはゲイ

>>20644111
WHERES YOUR COPULA?

if your youtube subfeed doesn't look like pic related you wont learn japanese

>>20644119
im pretty sure if ur feed looks like that ur just normie trash

>having boys in your feed
l o l fag

When is it a good idea to start getting into light novels?

Is itazuraneko main guide ok?
I mean, I was happy when I read their method, because I really like reading oriented learning.
Can anyone share some experience?
Basically:
grammar>core 2k/6k>reading native stuff/studying
no genki or x, y or z textbook.
Of course some individual study of kanji along with core 2k/6k, but not exhaustive methods like RTK.

>>20644224
Doesn't the main guide there recommend using RTK to learn kanji?

>>20644245
They dont make it clear, they simply say that both methods: individual study of kanji and not studying individually, but rather "through vocabulary" are efficient. If you choose the first option they recommended, of course, the RTK. But if it's the second option they simply recommend core 2k / 6k plus reading. But of course an individual study is welcome.

>>20644267
>individual study is welcome.
individual kanji study is welcome**

>>20644222
when u can read a little bit ???? when u really want to read 1 cuz uve bought into the fake hype that its actually good and epic when its actually trash ?????

1 of those

>>20644117
wheres your nihongo perapera da
>>20644224
dont finish core before you read
some kids were talkin about vn core bein better months ago never looked at it
just watch cure dolly for the grammar ftw
>>20644318
important message

>>20644119
you're over estimating, it should look more like this

加減しろよ

also if ur feed doesnt have this in it then i guess i havent posted it enough yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNJi2C4M8nI

>>20644267
Yeah you're right, well they're not wrong, both are good, if you prefer picking kanji up through vocabulary then do that, but like they mention in the guide, if you are slow to pick them up or have poor retention then individual study might be better.

Do people really consider themselves fluent without having learned all the jouyou kanji?

>>20644527
What does that have to do with fluency?

Is there an add on like yomichan for anki 2.1? I cant find anything atm aside from ankiconnect, which needs yomichan apparently, or is does it mean yomichan the chrome extension?

>>20644527
do people really consider nippon children fluent before they finish secondary school

>>20644631
Are you a child?
Didn't think so.

>>20644532
It's the base for an adult?

>>20644631
They obviously aren't

>>20644639
in nippongo you are baby
>>20644642
hontou nara ookii

>>20644639
You don't need to be an adult to be fluent lmao

>>20644527
璽 can you read this? i can xD

>>20644527
Do people who have no idea how the language works really think they get to choose who can call themselves fluent and who can not?

fluent and literate are 2 different things if u guys must play ur foolish label game

>>20644631
>>20644642
Fluency for children can be considered as early as 6 years, since at that age most children dominate the standardizations, rules and possiblities of the UG, having passed the critical period of language acquisition. At 8 years is almost complete. And some aspects of the learning process is eternal, since the vocabulary of any language cant be 100% mastered. Throughout our lives we always expand our vocabulary

>>20644527
shit that hinders fluency.. you can be fluent and illiterate. not the other way around

you can memorize 3000 zi and be proud of your adult level mastery of drawing chinese houses but will you be as good as a native 10 year old at nihongo

cant wait for all the not fluent but self proclaimed literate guys to come fight this one

Is is impossible for some a non-native with an IQ below 130 to truly become fluent in japanese.

How do I tell where words end and begin in this? Its yotsubato chapter 1 if that helps

is there any bait as high tier as iq bait

am I the only one wishing I could ever become as good as 10 years old native

>>20645008
>but will you be as good as a native 10 year old at nihongo
I wish I was that good

>>20645027
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily fromNarodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

Originalio just in caseo

>>20644403
vncore is better for reading early because it's actually a frequency list and frontloads the most important words

>>20645020
Once you get good enough, it comes naturally
For the time being, use the pack and just type everything into jisho, it can split up the words most of the time

>>20645020
>>20645076
also trial and error when jisho aint spoonfeedin ya and if that doesnt work it aint gonna kill ya to miss some shit and move on
trial and error includes obvious substitutions with long vowels or common casual sound changes but you learn the latter from knowin more nihongo or anime ftw
if you still have much trouble after 3 or 4 volumes you must not have watched enough anime

and i aint talkin about immersion bullshit im talkin about good old eng subbed anime
if you cant figure out that sugee is sugoi and dekkee is dekai and janee is janai then the 10000 hour requirement must really be true

>>20643938
But did you learn?

>>20644094
Based

>>20645147
i learned those with only 100 hours

How about doing/reviewing 5 random kanji (mostly 常用) each day together djt? Maybe this would bring some life back to these threads and we'd get some actual learning done.
I'd pick characters based on their frequency class and add in some less-frequent (but not totally obscure) characters so as to appeal to learners of all levels. All 5 daily kanji would come with at least two or three basic sample words. The idea is to have some kind of concrete material to focus on and get whatever kind of learning you feel like doing done. For example it's already something to acknowledge that a character exists as opposed to being completely oblivious to it, or you could reinforce a character you've already seen before.

If a handful of people starts showing interest I'll try it out.

>>20645374
I think probably the most productive thing we could do is have a reading group where we all read a few chapters of the same ln each week, like int did. I guess thatd turn this thread into ln discussion instead of dnt though.

>>20645387
While this is probably more productive and less gimmicky it'd be pretty much impossible to pick reading material that suits everyone's level, whereas kanji and vocab are more universal

>>20645374
oh great more kanji of the day shit that doesnt help u learn japanese at all great idea would really help to bring the threads back to the status quo : )

>>20645428
Well considering you're still here after all these years it would appear that kanji of the day or not you still haven't learned Japanese

スレは英語の壁だって
ぺらぺらになることはない

ah nothin more status quo than tellin ppl they dont know japanese

post the girl w. the creepy grin now and really bring this thread back to the great old times : )

hey now no attacking other dekinai this is a safe space
>>20645387
eroge of the month
any fucker posts hey whats easy shit for baby to start readin say look at the fuckin op do it or dont
eroge are accessible to all if you compelled enough

aint no one gonna do anything as gay as play the same eroge and cum in here and talk about it

i think thats exactly what djt would do if djt could read
you can pass on the talkin though
i probably wouldnt play em either
but at least it takes care of recommendations straight up and we can reserve the thread for more important shit like ecelebs

in other words ~ status quo ~

>>20645412
Easy solution is to just open with a very easy ln like kino, which in addition to being accessible is extremely epic ftw

nothin more status quo like kinos

i aint likin when my status quo is disrupted by someone thinkin theyre reclaimin the thread for real nihongo questions sayin please spoonfeed me on bein optimally compelled
ill start us off for the rest of this month heres the answer to all recommendation posts
babies try nursery rhyme
if you are at an advanced enough level to handle kino then for you its oretuba prelude
dont like em try bein your own man for once
these suggestions generated through a highly complex method if you figure it out dont spoil next month
questions comments suggestions not welcome express your feelings through shitposts

lol no ones even gonna read enough of your post to see the two titles youre recommending

also nursery rhyme is ftw regardless of ur nihongo level

dont think i aint know that ill put it in an op
no i wont i dont put anything but shit in ops
cant say i didnt try though

How can nursery rhyme be epic it looks pretty standard haremshit and even has loli which... yikes desu i thought you were cooler than this

i been questionin his taste for months but ive never read an eroge so defer to the master

how am i supposed to explain one of the pinnacles of moege from like 15 years ago to a zoomer

Not a single capital letter in sight, keep up the good work.

>>20643938
Not even a month past and I can tell this is lewd

>>20645871
I can't imagine how, did 蹂躪 give it away?

if you're so afraid of a new status quo being established what do you really want this thread to be used for?
i'm asking you to dig down deep into your kokoro and tell me what your fuckin kokoro wish is, no bullshit no ten layers of irony no nonsense no dumb memepost i want you to tell me what you really want

i want you to know japanese

i want more people to learn japanese and for them to not be spoonfed bad resources by the djt guide i helped write when i was a beginner

Here’s an idea:
Instead of LN reading group it’s with 2ch threads, now that’s otaku immersion

Incidentally, any tips for checking out 2ch?

>>20646114
>>20646117
i said no bullshit im talking about specifically what do you want to use this thread for because nobody's learning nihongo while they're here so unless you want this thread to basically just be a link to prank cat with a chatroom attached i want a real agenda on my desk asap no later than tomorrow at midnight thanks

what happened to pop quiz song translation guy while were talkin about dumb ideas

>>20646149
maybe we could circlejerk about how much nihongo we know instead of how much nihongo we dont know
youre a man of action why dont you make a proposal
>nobody's learning nihongo while they're here
what if i told you im readin based eroge right this minute and youre interruptin me

>>20646095
if u want the bottomest of my kokoro shit then look no further than todays nihongo word of the day 解散

dont come back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>>20646149
i want to use this thread for helping people learn japanese and attempting to undo the damage i did as a beginner

>>20646166
i already made a proposal but it's not gonna go anywhere because if there's one thing people ITT don't wanna fuckin do it's crack open a book they'd rather watch matt-sama's videos and hypothesize about secret shortcuts to """"""fluency"""""" than hit the fuckin pavement and do the actual legwork. nobody here is gonna solve a single murder at this rate and its sad

>>20646190
that's quitter talk first you say you want people itt to know nihongo now you're shoutin for kaisan which is it

>>20646199
noble

i just wanna set u free and finally claim the eternal rest i seek

if you want to set me free then kill djt

>>20646365
until each and every person itt learns nihongo you aren't allowed to die and in exchange you get to post rap vids that's the deal you made with me we had a contract and everything

i mean that happened in your last life and this is what youve inherited after reincarnating in this isekai though

i added words i see in videogame menus to a txt file which i open up and look at occasionally

i meant yall but u are part of the yall

also workin on it

>>20646378
異世界でわたしはゲイ

my isekai deal was also to be able to shitpost as much as i want in one thread but never be able to leave did we all fall for the same scam

no i picked the multi-community-shitposting perk and redefined shitposting to include sincere discussion so im basically good to go as long as i check back in here once in a while

im just so fucking gay

don't get it twisted though as much as i would like to see this thread be used for good or at least have more of an actual purpose you guys keep me coming back i love yall

excuse me but how the fuck do 稲 and 妻 combine into "lightning"?

u just gattai-suru them like anime

>>20645652
>>20645666
what's kino?

man why doesn't anyone in these threads ever know a really good vn

i know every good vn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvVQMZ3UPG8

update from our guy!

ユダヤ人は嫌いですね

>>20646773
ragequit at him saying wanting to show him doing monolingual stuff while making a video speaking in english

gambare calvin chan

>Kyoto-ben (~nai becomes ~hen)

what the FUCK?

hes gonna be starin at こんなの構わなくていいよ while refusin to sit back and enjoy some eroge
speechless

man LNs with "otaku" MCs are hard to read. every other line of dialogue every character says is an anime quote i can't keep up i should've watched my 10000 hours

Im about a hair away from deleting anki but getting ~75% on mature cards when in reality its just like 4 out of 15 cards makes me want to remember words

>Man'yōgana written in cursive style evolved into hiragana, or onna-de, that is, "ladies' hand," a writing system that was accessible to women (who were denied higher education).
>Major works of Heian-era literature by women were written in hiragana
Based women.

>>20646956
I’ll take an anime episode... and watch it!!

ふふふ。。。 not bad so far, ankidronekun, but let's see how you handle THIS
>男女共同参画社会

>>20647224
耶蘇

>go to Japan
>feel like a complete idiot since I can't make a conversation flow properly, just a few awkward sentences
>still get laid
I feel like I could have gotten more jap poon had i been more eloquent in my sentence-forming. back to the grind!

going back to full time immersion, it's been fun
一週間にまた会おう

>>20647224
That's just a conglomerate of usual words, you fucking nigger.

>男女共同参画社会
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%94%B7%E5%A5%B3%E5%85%B1%E5%90%8C%E5%8F%82%E7%94%BB%E7%A4%BE%E4%BC%9A

For those just starting out what's some good baby/kids shit to listen to so that you can somewhat comprehend and gradually push up from?

>>20647309
Don't start with baby/kids shit, start with stuff you want to read. You don't need to worry about "gradually pushing up", that will just slow progress. Trial by fire is the most effective form of language learning, that is, under the hardest conditions you will learn the most and fastest.

>>20647483
Teekyuu anime

>>20647490
>under the hardest conditions
thats takin it too far
you shouldnt be seekin out the hardest shit you can find just like you shouldnt be seekin out the easiest shit you can find
you just need somethin compellin enough that however hard it is doesnt matter to you cause every time you figure somethin out youre like shit thats sick whats next
how hard it is has a bit of influence on whether you get that feelin or not but its not the main factor for sure and you should just try shit until you feel that

How did /jp/ go when they first started learning kanji? It seems very daunting at a first glance.

>>20647583
Just started doing anki reps, it's not that bad.

俺はだめな男だから

俺と付き当てたい彼女がない

>>20643301
where do you see these?

>>20647483
Watch ぼのぼの

>>20645020
howcanyoutelleventhoughimnotputtingspacesherewhatimwriting?

>>20647583
easyish. anki helps but try to look at what the kanji is
kangaeru for example looks like a kangaroo

>>20647725
everything looks like what it is if you read more

>>20645020
by knowing basic japanese grammer

>>20647805
i know, thats what im saying. like swim just looks like complex water and gu

How good is Minna no Nihongo for learning grammar?

Is there a way to make Japanese text more readable in Chrome? It's really small.

>>20647871
havent read it but most grammar resources for gaijin try to make grammar easier by hiding how easy it actually is
cure dolly is ftw though

>>20647871
After Tae Kim just start reading.

Then the only grammar books that are worth something are ones that can be used for reference and looking stuff up. Like DOJG and HOJG.

>>20647888
ctrl +

>>20647911
>After Tae Kim just start reading.
I'm planning to do just that. It's just that I feel like some explanations in Tae Kim are a bit lacking or somewhat confusing at first for non-english speaker, hence I want some back-up source of grammar which gives more thorough explanations in my first language.

>>20647952
Yeah it happens, but most grammar only "clicks" into place once you start reading. You could also try to google for more examples on a certain grammar.

how problematic is it to learn kanji through vocabulary instead of the other way around?

>>20648064
Not at all, you can't first learn Kanji and then combine them to make words, this is not Chinese.
This is Japanese baby, you learn a word and then you learn which chinese characters people decided to use to write it hundreds of years ago.

>>20648096
good to know. i tried starting with the joyou kanji and it was just so hard to make myself care with no context to what i was learning.
Right now i'm learning a word and its meaning and pronunciation, then noting the meaning of the kanji that compose it.

I'm in awe at how good these dolly videos are. Holy shit

>>20648101
I have never purposefully "learned" kanji, just learned vocab and I know most of the elementary school kanji by now.

>>20648115
who dat

>>20648125
you can learn them together but are you also learning how to write them?

don't dedicate large amounts of time to skills you're not going to use.

>>20648135
No, I've practiced writing some of them for fun but I don't need to know how to write them by hand if I'm just learning how to read.

>>20648143
/int/ warned me about your kind

>>20648064
It's possible, that's how Japanese do it. Ever seen something saying something like "It's written with the kanji for X" in anime? Well for a Japanese person X is a japanese word, for a JSL who did isolated kanji study it's an English word.

So when you find a new kanji, associate it with that word.

The advantage is that you don't have to isolated kanji study and just learn them as you go and you're learning at least one reading together with it. The disadvantage is that you might not know which Japanese word it might be best to associate it with. Another is that you're trying 2 things at once.

Now doing RTK also has its advantages. If you ever want to be able to write it's the easiest way to learn it and it helps with distinguishing lookalike kanji. It also sets up a whole system of primitives and mnemonics so the burden stays relatively low as you learn more and more.

But don't ever bother with Jōyō kanji or frequency lists. They are completely useless for an JSL.

>>20647888
If you're on Win10 and have Microsoft IME installed, you have a pretty good Japanese font.
Go to chrome://settings/fonts and change your Standard Font to Meiryo.
If you don't have MSIME installed and don't want to install it, search for Manage Optional Features in the settings app -> Add a feature -> Japanese supplemental fonts

You should be able to read this title without pausing.

Years ago these threads were on /a/ (if I remember correctly)

Did you guys choose to move here or did mods force you out?

whats some other easy manga / books to read? yotsuba is boring, albeit a little challenging?

>>20648297
Zettai Reiiki

Is there an addon or plugin or whatever that can export your anki deck and put it into an excel, pdf or html file?

Tried to export it via anki to a txt but it's a big wall of text and I need at least a blank line in between cards to know where it starts and ends.

>>20648297
doraemon

>>20648423
Anki's txt export are tab separated.

is it ok to not know how to write AT ALL? i have a hard time constructing inside my head words i could easily recognize in a sentence

>>20648616
Yeah. You shoudn't force yourself to output.

>>20648616
depends what your goals are. ultimately if youre learning a language its an incredible disadvantage

you can be fluent and able to read but not able to write a damn thing even kana

problem is as soon as you stop looking at computer type and look at really any kind of stylized text or often simple calligraphy you are 100% fucked

post current readings

picked pic related up at random. It really easy.

and obviously anything but the neatest handwriting is a lost cause

>>20644699
Isn't this the imperial seal?

>>20648246
imagine being this impressed with urself that u can read the cover of a childrens book

>>20648630
Started reading 容疑者Xの献身 today. Got through the first 2 chapters. Seems pretty interesting.

>>20648630
started reading naurto today got through the first 2 chapters seems pretty interesting

>>20649063
You fool, you absolute doofus. Obviously the title made me double take and thus I posted it in a challenging manner to encourage people to charge forward and stumble as I did. It's all just a big jape, you ignoramous, you unbelievable dullard.

i didnt even click the thumbnail lol

Obviously, it's legible as a thumbnail

all i saw was densetu and was like nice childrens book glad u could read the cover of it bro and moved on

Fitting that you would recognize a children's book, given your child-like attention spam

cant believe youre actually this mad about being congratulated on reading your first childrens book cover

Someone needs to take you down a few pegs, Jamal

damn why are 着ると切る pronounced the same and taught at the same time

>>20649440
いつでもいいよ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLjsp-EQKHk#t=57

>>20648630
I've been reading PARALLEL PARADISE manga recently

Is it cooler to say 私 or 俺? I can't decide.

if i catch u sayin ore ima beat ur ass cuz ur askin for it

>>20649600
only say 俺 when you want to sound masculine so it's good to use it when you're talking with a girl and trying to seem confident
avoid speaking like this to a man since he might think you're trying to intimidate him

Not asking for a full translation. This is from earth defense force 5. Is there anything interesting or memey on the noticeboard here?

trust me if ur not an azn man or sound obviously foreign even the girls are gonna laugh if u ever say ore dont do it

>>20649664
Even if you were ugly this would not happen.
Asians are respectful to everyone and especially the gajin that impregnates their girls.

>>20647723
this really puts into perspective how fucking stupid japanese is. pokemon games show you how smart japanse could be.

>>20649600
I fully intend to use 我 and you should too.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
the 'no spaces' pleb filter seem to work as usual.

its like flies to the poops

watch cure dolly

>>20648644
ye how do you read it anon. no dictionary

this is your last chance to learn japanese

click here or perish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH5p0ATANqI

>>20649753
It's ji right?

Very coincidentally i looked up a list of strange kanji YESTERDAY and that one particular character caught my eye.

wagahai ftw

>>20649600
I use ore cause I fucked up and turned it in to a habit and whenever I say watashi people think I say atashi which is a killer

>>20649703
You better put some northern dialect in there to make it not sound like your a fucking asshat

>not using 僕

nothin more status quo than the pronoun discussion

my favorite character midoriya says boku so i do too

>>20649858
ｃｒｉｎｇｅ

his shows also called boku and his hairs fucking green

>>20649901
>character with black hair - Kuro
>character with white hair - Shiro
>character which can morph into a cat - Neko
Why do they do this?

trust me thats only the tip of the iceberg for how retarded anime names really are

weebs think they are cool japanese names but they are really the equivalent of porky pig and elmer fudd

btw are you watchin the new handshakers lol

gohands ftw

>>20649958
Depends on the anime tbhq desu senpai

https://streamable.com/ccemj
what is she saying here?

そのくらい自分で考えろよ

つまり、あなたも知らない

>>20649820
if you're a girl atashi is the best thing to say desu

いいえ

全部聞きましたよ

ふざけんなよ、どちらかわからないと認めなさい

>>20650014
っていうか、生意気だから一人で帰るよといった。財布を持ってた（Cuts off)

>>20650130
すごい

>>20650111
That's not uchi.

JLPT results will be available in a week, anyone else knows he screwd up but is still waiting on those results?

>>20647058
Wow it was bad today i got 8/12 mature cards correct

>>20650136
it really isn't watch some more anime. also where is that clips from shes cute with that accent

>>20650301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfxJtLGpBBE

Which online dictionary has the most words?

>>20650364
Why does it matter?

>>20650364
if コトバンク or weblio jp. learn japanese

>>20650182
Patrician.

I just realized lmao sounds like 笑う

>>20649942
wait until you realize red hair dude is akaou

>>20650111
it's for thots

>>20650314
I have a few questions regarding this:
What ist this video about? Are they just walking around and why does she occasionaly shows more naked skin?
What is this channel about? What I understand, is that they try to make horror movies, but why the skin (see above)?
Also, does she speak standard Japanese? She sounds different than the newsreporters I listen to.

>>20650314
whats this hos problem

man i wish i could walk by when some ho is doin that shit

id fuckin kick her in the ass and ask her what her problem is her parents would be ashamed

>>20648246
i read denyuuden first

>>20648064
any other way is literally a waste of time. Remember the natural order of language learning includes all aspects. this means dedicating the exact amount of time to reading kanji, understanding grammar that you need to get some kind of comprehensible message. In the beginning learn vocab as you get used to start clicking kanji in yomichan and noting the readings. If you want make a mining deck in the begging but drop it after 4-6 months when it becomes trivial. dont get memed in to rtk,

I was wondering if haruki murakami writes in japanese or english. The reason is I don't like translation and want to read in the native language a book was written in.

>>20650573
gayest post I've ever read on 4chan, if this isn't bait you should invest in some female hormoines and dye your hair pink

youll understand when you become 69 years old like me and see these young people runnin around lookin like total clowns

save this post for that day and remember ur good old grandpa

>>20650723
also is all his books references to other books like 1Q84 and kafka on the shore?

here's your fuckin daily japanese training, this one is pretty 適当

たまには読書もいいかなと思って何の気なしに読み始めたのだが、これが存外面白くてすいすいページが進む進む。やっぱり本なんてものは読むまで面白さが解らないもんだ。いいね、読書は。

>>20650723
>>20650778
he writes in japanese but i've only ever read him in english. that having been said while he does reference stuff a lot it's not going to affect your enjoyment much if you aren't familiar with said references: these books are written with a japanese audience in mind and thus are appropriate in keeping that kind of thing in moderation

長すぎ読んでない

>>20650804
I thought that reading was also good as it was appropriate , but I started reading without feeling anything, but this is surprisingly interesting and the page goes forward. After all, books do not understand fun until reading . Like, reading.
huh

>>20650314
lmao that thot could break any weeb's delusions about nip women.

>>20650818
lolled at epic irony

>>20650817
damn machine-kun if you clean that up a little bit with your eigoryoku you might actually be able to pass it off to the EOPeabrains and start collecting patreon bux

>>20650815
Thanks I have been wanting to get into more japanese literature and I thought he might be a good place to start.

I can never seem to wrap my head around this.

What's the difference between こう and こういう (same with そう and そういう)

>>20650875
i'd recommend "hard boiled wonderland and the end of the world," it was my first murakami book and i think it's one of his best.

>>20650882
You would wrap your head around it pretty quick if you read more.

>>20650882
One is kou and the other is kouiu

>>20650902
But I've seen こう translated as "this way" and こういう as "like this."

nothin more status quo than asking what the difference between 1 word and 2 words is

ah i know how to turn this ship around

hey guys wahs difference between は and か"

>>20650927
you reverse the ten marks and you get your answer ばか

>>20650927
One is ta and the other is ga

>>20650935
ill give it up to u bruv its been a while since djts been quick witted

>この指とーまれ
What the fuck does she mean by this? This finger stop? I don't get it at all.

that manga looks diseased calling the cops

nah it's daijoubu

>>20650927
curedolly

>>20650986
w

>>20650970
It's a game.

>>20650970
based on context i assume it means stop at this finger. ie come here, stop at my finger type shit. But i dont translate and understand japanese through the feeling of my penis so take that into consideration.

>>20651022
I know たかおに is a variant of tag, but i still have no clue what she means by that second sentence.

oh my fUCKIGN god

>>20651030
Imagine being extremely new to english and hearing "tag, you're it."

>>20651030
oh she is saying that the person who is tagging to not come past this finger.

誰がit *nonchalantly shits pants*

瀞って、知ってる？

any tried Yesjapan.com?

sure dont but its prolly not unlike 泥

>>20651059
is she erotically fingering 17 strokes on his chest what the fuck is japans problem

welp time to jack off

>>20651059
知らなかった
知りたくなかった

>>20651102
how new?

Started learning today. Thoughts?

if you're not a readtard this site is useful to figure out a grammar point.
https://sentencesearch.neocities.org/

>>20651148
Write in vertical lines. Gives more weeb points and also has a more natural line flow between characters

>>20651148
That's just one of the many pages you did, right?

remember draw each kana 10000 times before you even think about reading you wouldnt want to permanently cripple your japanese would you

>>20651091
ok back i had to pinch it in a strange way but i managed to skeet every stroke of 惚 on my wall

>>20651148
>>20651210
>tfw I learned all kana without writing any of them

>>20651148
i also drew all the kanas hundreds of times when i started, the autists will disagree, but it does help you alot to memorize them

How does DJT drill their grammar? I've been steadily learning the basic rules with Tae Kim's guide and some of what's in Genki, but I feel like without some practice, I wont remember what I've learned. Any advice?

>>20651265
>the autists will disagree
i think you got this whole situation backwards innit

>>20651273
by reading nihongo

Hello guys, i'm studying japanese, already know katakana, hiragana, some kanjis (<150) and grammar. I want to do the JLPT N3 at end of the year, it is posible?

>>20651280
But what if I misread the grammar and learn the wrong thing? It's harder to unlearn and re-learn than to just learn, so I'd like to avoid that.

>>20651274
Good job proving him right.

>>20651273
read up on them in tae kim or dohg and then use >>20651163 to find real examples
i passed n5 last summer,can tell you in a week if i passed n4 in december

>>20651282
How many words do you know?

im so glad ill never have to start learning jap ever again. theres just so much bad information out there. even though it sounds like a meme, discovering nihongosharks kanji deck and the ajatt website/matts videos is maybe one of the luckiest things to happen in my life so far

>>20651282
zenbu ha kanou

>ajatt
yikers dude

i read a sentence in japanese, i understand it, but i struggle to translate it into english

why is this

am i retarded?

>>20651304
I was learning vocabulary from the Lingodeer App, some 500+ words (reading and listening, not the writing of those yet).

>>20651336
>not the writing
Not gonna make it

>>20651317
talk more about that

>>20651282
Of course, you can just stop learning japanese and start learning the JLPT

>>20651335
Post an example.

post the mareni shit

>>20651354
what do you want to hear

>>20651407
What kind of advice do you think is bad/misinformation. I started 2 months ago, so if I can correct my course I'd like to do it sooner rather than later.

>>20651290
you can check shit while youre reading if you think its a good thing to check
you underestimate how much shit you misunderstood as a child and you sorted out through thousands of hours of hearing and reading more
aint nothin wrong with readin some grammar shit but if you think you can get it all down in advance and not risk misunderstandin shit youre mistaken
also harder to unlearn and relearn ive been hearin my entire life and im convinced its absolute bullshit spouted from the peak of mt stupid

>>20651386
でも大丈夫でしょう

i know what it means, but it can be translated into english in multiple ways

but dont worry

but it will be alright

but it going to be okay

they all basically mean the same, but it still makes my brain melt when i try to translate it

>>20651418
best thing u can do is vacate this thread immediately and permanently and stop looking for nihongo help online and just go play

>>20651431
問題なくはないでしょう : )

>>20651431
>>20651386
EOPs are so cute when they discover what "different language" actually means

as an aside is there anything in nihongo as based as でも大丈夫

>>20651418
not the OP, but, one of the best way to learn something is to transform from something that you don't understand to something that you understand.
Make a vocabulary first of, like, 700 common words (colors, body parts, profissions, etc), then try to translate simple texts, and each new word you write down and go increasing your vocabulary.
For some people works.

Any good anki decks with all pictures instead of english words? I want to learn visually rather than in english.

>>20651418
just the conventional learning methods. Genki, Core, jlpt lists, never actually reading/immersing without subs, japanesepod 101, never going monolingual and so on are all pretty damn bad, leading to 4 year in n2s that post about japanese being really hard on reddit all day. Literally all you need is to RUSH nihongoshark kanji (it can be done in a month if you are really motivated) and then sentence mine/get a base understanding of everything in tae kim. then its just immersion and sentencemining till you feel like you can go monolingual. remember to delete cards that you dont need along the way. i'm about 11 months in doing exactly this and got 257 points on the jcatt recently and all i do to get better now is chat with japanese people on skype, read novels and watch anime. i'll start pitch accent when i hit khatz' 18 months

heres the two most important pieces of advice you can get
anything other than consuming native content is supplementary at best
you have to find your own way cause even if some shit is right and some shit is wrong you cant tell the good advice from the bad
gambare

>>20651431
any of this translations are good. The meaning behind has to stay the same.

>>20651447
sure, but its the same thing with translating english to my own language, it just takes time despite me being near-fluent

i guess i need to stop thinking in english and just think in nihongo instead, just like i do with english

"ill start pitch accent when"

not gonna make it 100%確実

>>20651456
text chat only btw dont want to wack up my accent. also i forgot podcasts

>>20651470
how good were you 11 months in

>>20651456
>isolated kanji
>sentence mining
>monolingual transition
>deleting cards
nice meme

i have no idea when "11 months in" was i cant even remember what i ate for yuusyoku

>>20651460
yeah the meaning is there, but i guess it just kind of annoys me you cannot make a 100% true translation as there will always be a different way to translate the sentence

>>20651456
good tips :) never heard about shark kanji. In 4chan /t/ (torrents) there is a torrent with 40gb of japanese learning material, do you guys think that worth it (already downloaded).

>>20651456
>never actually reading/immersing without subs
>reading without subs
Eh?

>>20651501
whats wrong with deletin cards its the first step to deletin anki
also dont question the advice hes parrotin cause its native vetted

>>20651510
can u stop being a eop and accept that theres other languages in the world that are not at all like english (tho ultimately u will find many similarities but save that for when uve already watched ur 10000 hours of anime w. eng subs)

>>20651510
i think when you translate something, never it will be on 100% true translation.

>>20651456
So, essentially, start reading actual Japanese early and often, after building a small list of common kanji? That makes sense. I've been doing anki since I (mostly) learned Hiragana/Katakana, and trying to read Yotsuba since I had the manga on hand, but I find the reading process painfully slow and error prone. Is this just how it is for a beginner?

>>20651534
now this is the most status quo post of the thread

>>20651525
im already bilingual so i know that

i just need a different approach to it

click for accurate translation of でも大丈夫
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfwvpyrAW60&t=43

>>20651534
>Is this just how it is for a beginner?
ye. through immersion the very rough understanding of grammar gotten from rushing tae kim will be strengthened automatically. and then eventually there will be fewer and fewer "new" words left

>>20651456
looking cute today

>>20651526
If you have a simple enough sentence and the two languages are closely related it's possible.

and thus i give u "compelling content"

>>20651565
This is why I'm learning Japanese. The subs distract me from the hot anime babes.

>>20651560
yeah, translating a germanic language into another germanic language will nearly always leave you with a pretty true translation, but once the language families are farther apart eachother there's going to various options

here ill give u a sentence that is impossible to fuck up translating

わたしはゲイ

>>20651540
Alright genius, how do you learn japanese then?

>>20651599
that pronoun's gay.

>>20651602
You don't.

>>20651602
dont try so hard and just go play

>>20651599
but loan words are not true japanese, so it doesn't count

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTsduRreug

finally its time to post this again

be careful some innocent beginner might be mislead by that highly amusing imagery

>>20651606
あなたの顔もゲイ : )

nah i think its about time we start trashin krashen cuz hes mostly just a parrot and a hack as well

speaking of hacks i cant believe dolly chan sensei just threw it all away

big if true but parroting parrots who parrot read more is more valuable than parroting parrots who parrot rtk
speaking of dolly that video is based on blogposts from years ago you just didnt love dolly enough to learn about dolly

>>20651273
I write grammar points in my phone's notes while reading, then look them up later because I like to do things one at a time. I just browse the grammar reference in the guide and TK but that sentence finder anon posted looks real useful

>>20651662
i didnt need to know that about dolly its like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNY9MQmaBBI u dont need to have this conversation either

>>20651675
whats it with dudes bein afraid of career stats you afraid she can take more dicks than you

its not afraid its u dont wanna know cuz now u dont wanna kiss on the mouth for a while till u forget its pretty natural unless ur some kinda deviant

i mean u dont want get with a girl who doesnt know how to work your shit but u also dont wanna know about how she got so good at puttin her finger up there while spottin you some of that good becky namean

>>20651290
just skim tae kim and then start reading, use the explainations in yomichan for all the most basic structures and particles. you can use google to but do it as you read you have to learn these things in order. dont worry about not understanding everything. isolated grammar study is pointless and will burn you out.

now that is some status quo useless to no one posting

Is it better to skim tae kim or skim milk?

i meant useful to no one woops ヽ(　￣д￣)ノ

maybe but its all about that positive mindset gotta remember she sucked 36 dicks that werent good enough to hold onto
now if she sucks a dick after yours thats when you can get flustered unless youre into that

sounds like youre the one with the fear issue i wasnt thinkin about shit like bein good enough or not

you got it backwards if youre afraid a not bein good enough hows her leavin 36 dicks behind gonna boost your confidence seems thatd amp up the fear

why is it an issue of confidence i just think its gross to think about other dicks in her mouth it aint about the status of a relationship its just a gross thought to have

also i had a random thought i was like man "sleet mage" is such a sick alias and then i found this ftw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCZKlwZZPBI

im more sayin if all you can take from that is the thought of other dicks in her mouth thats your problem but i got a thing for lust
are you for real cause that guys bose vetted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07qQfTd-nfY

Whos been playing gacha games here

>>20651817
no thats what i mean dude ive been thinkin that since the last round of vids i linked i was like man whats up with this name its so sick

also yea idk about the dicks dude let the past be the past im ready to get poz now

speakin a bose this reminds me i got eroge to finish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw7nMbCMR0g

did u not finish saya yet lol

no judgin im on what i assume is last branch

自らの体に手を回す
wtf is that tewomawasu

get them hands rolling

also i do that everyday

every time someone calls krashen a hack, someone fails to learn japanese

krashen is just a more antiquated version of mattvsjapan

there u go now u can be free from the illusion

krashen doesnt tell people to do rtk and meditate in fact he's actually against studying writing systems in isolation (check out his work criticizing phonics)

oh in that case this krashen guy seems pretty smart and agreeable

There is literally nothing wrong with RTK, it's just another effective way to learn kanji.

>>20651148
Nice, I started yesterday and still can't write あ in the correct order because it comes all warped. I write it backwards and it comes up alright, for some reason.

>>20652092
not learn

remember

rtk is useless if you dont know japanese and pointless if you do

nothin more status quo than rtgay

>>20652094
if only you knew nihongo you could just look up how to write hiragana on the youtube　https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQFVugs1MdM

rename djt to the if only u knew nihongo thread

How much japanese do I have to know to read Fate

>>20643938
Isn't 口 the subject and not the object in this sentence? Why is it followed by を?

For some reason I keep glitching in Anki and I have to finish editing the existing card first, when there is no edit window. pls help

>>20652189
the equivalent of the amount of english youd need to know to read a hentai version of harry potter

>>20652190
not makin it

>>20652157
I don't know what's your story but you seem like a nice fellow.

What 中級日本語 textbooks have you used, anons?

>>20652225
>textbooks

>>20652190
The 口 verbs on the ペニス

>>20652215
thank u

ure nice as well

>>20651148
>tfw no one realized this is a reddit post

>>20650518
>does she speak standard Japanese?

>>20652190
Oh shit wait no I'm just dumb. Sorry.

I'm having a hard time understanding the meaning of the second part, could someone please help? I get most of it but I don't get how it all ties together.

>>20650518
dang i forgot to lol at this post

lmao

>>20652327
Why would anyone notice that? Maybe you should go back there.

>>20650473
わたくし is the thot pronoun

>>20649707
oh yea then why am i here? i even hate kanji but i still read every day. just because i wanna understand japanese content doesn't mean i have to pretend their writing system isn't fucking dumb.

the ultimate irony is calling any other writing system dumb with a post written in english

lmfao

>>20652531
whinin is dumb but
>i still read every day
props for that gambare

>>20652213
>the equivalent of the amount of english youd need to know to read a hentai version of harry potter
So, a lot?

>>20652568
lmao this

>>20652788
depends if you just want to read it or you want to understand it on anything but a surface level

>>20652788
>>20652822
everything nasu wrote ever was surface level at best anyway

also yea dude u kinda need to know japanese dude

if u dont ull just have to run it thru ur filter of hurrr i know words from the dictionary i know whats going on guys im totally not lost on literally everything hey look mana dolphins

How the fuck do you read 開ける?

ah keh rooh

how the fuck do you read 家

>>20652846
>hurrr i know words from the dictionary i know whats going on guys im totally not lost on literally everything hey look mana dolphins
bruh... that shit hurted. how do i become good? i have a moderate amount of grammar understanding but sometimes i just skip stuff.

>>20652979
ooh chee

>>20652980
i spent quite a bit of time enjoying content that way theres really not much else to say but keep enjoying content any way u can and do and see more things

>>20653004
that's what i've been doing. i'm trying to read a lot of books this year by making more time to do the things i enjoy. as long as "just keep reading more" really does work i guess i'll be okay

oh i remembered a pretty good feeling

u know ur makin it when u get tired of trying to make sense of things in english and just let the nihongo flow

>ぐあ、今すぐ首つりてえ！
>日本が銃社会化を免れていることに感謝すべきだったかもしれない。手の届く範囲に自動小銃の一丁でもあれば、俺は躊躇なく自分の頭を打ち抜いていただろう。
Man, I don't remember Kyon being like this.

>>20652371
because only a redditor would do something like that. and idk if there's a point in going back if people here are just as likely to respond to a fucking picture of kana writing practice lmao

i went to a japanese streamer on twitch and typed
わたしはゲイ and he read it out loud, shook his head, and said "no"

what is the difference between here and reddit

>>20653475
why

>>20648630
Just finished the first volume of this. It wasn't as hard to get through as I expected, and I enjoyed it a lot more than I enjoyed the anime way back when it was airing.

>>20652568
the most fucked up part of english is the pronunciation desu

>>20653486
zoomers can't tell meme's from reality

>>20649700
not really. english has compound sounds unlike japanese which even without spaces will always read the same a e ate aegis, etc

おはようおにいちゃん

えいごうまくなりたい

>>20653822
えいごでゲームすればいいとおもいます

How am I supposed to practice generating Japanese using Tae Kim's guide if there are no exercises?

>>20653861
>practice generating Japanese

どうもありがとうMRロボット

>>20653861
do a bachelors in cs (3 years) and create an ai that generates japanese. i just did this, but using tae kim as input it just rambles for days about particles

>>20653864
>>20653883
I wanted to say "how am I supposed to practice writing" but I didn't want retards swarming in to say that learning how to write it is useless

>>20653895
>I didn't want retards swarming in to say that learning how to write it is useless
just ignore them. learn radical stroke order, and just practive the kanji in your anki reps. a cool way could be, when youre writing in english do your best to translate it to japanese and then write the kanji.

why would you need grammar excercises to practice writing i think you mean production

>>20653930
unless he is actually crafting original japanese its just counterfeiting

>>20653938
if he doesnt know japanese its just masturbating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj80U4uY3Fs
who remembers hyadain and who likes doraque

>>20653853
かたことでチャットしてて

?

ってかえされると

へこむ

>>20654113
wtf am i reading

>>20654113
ストーリーゲームとか

>>20654154
３Ｄようから

２Ｄしかできないし

いまやってるのそこそこおもしろいんだけど

なんかエスパニョール？だらけ

エスパニョールにはえいごつうじないの？

I want to start reading my first LN but dunno what to pick. I tried キノの旅 but didn't get hooked on the story with the first few pages

Any recommendations?

>>20654183
ゼロの使い魔 is pretty good. There's an audio book for the first LN, and there's an anime for it. 君の名は is a good choice for the same reason.