/jp/ - Otaku Culture

https://www.sokunousokudoku.net/hakarukun/ everybody take it and post your scores

>>20573611
Every human being has a pool of active vocabulary that's noticeably smaller than their passive vocabulary. Thus, authors will often use the same pool of words for their writing. THUS, ignoring special terms and names, you get a lot of their pool very quickly.
Don't you ever hear people say that NHK News gets easier as you do it? It's because they tend to use the same words across articles. The same goes for many light novels.

> "haha just read more lol xP"
I read this shit back in 2012 and had no idea what they were talking about. I read this again in 2019 and still have no idea what the guy is saying in the middle panels. FUCK this shitty language. I swear if it weren't for the anime and porn I wouldn't give a single crap about it.

あなたはゲイニゲル

>>20573780
what part don't you understand? ~10 months of reading here and that wasn't so hard

>particles and how to use them

>>20573780
>7 years and can't understand a simple したほうがいい pattern
I'm actually speechless, I'm sorry for you and I hope you develop better study habits soon. You should have been fluent by now.

>>20573780
What exactly are you having trouble with? The way she keeps slurring her words?

>>20573780
is that higenamuchi?

アノン君はマシヴェファゴトです

>>20573797
いえ！！！

Are there any alternatives to lang-8 since it seems they've suspended signups?
I'm looking for a way to practice writing and having natives correct me seems neat.

hows your guys mining going? I'm hoping to hit 10k this year, did vncore, rtk, and 2k core last year.

>>20573776
well. my experience with subs2srs is completely different.

i consume goblin slayer atm working on episode 6 and again and again suprised how much i dont know in every new episode.
grammar and vocabwise.

>>20573773
>>20573680

>>20573780
You seem to be confused. Manga isn't reading.

learning japanese via nukige is a meme.
i'm constantly chasing my boner, so i have no time to really look at the words after i've seen the translation, and while a few do stick and i can read an ok amount without using tools, i'm way too much in a hurry to focus on understanding the sentences properly

>>20574018
Reminder that choking the chicken is for degenerates

>>20574037
lol falling for the nofap meme

>>20574037
choke that shit till the skin comes off and it hurts and u still cant stop chokin

>>20574059
It isn't a meme. Clunge is superior in every way to a hand. Fapping is genuinely for goons.

i mean who does vanilla hand in 2019 i got like 500 dollars worth of male masturbators ftw

>>20574012
>Manga isn't reading.
Assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>>20574079
Nah I can do things with my hand my girl can't do, humping a stack of meet is only superior if you're an animal. You haven't got laid enough if you still think pussy is so great.

none of them involve feeling good rubbing against ur dick like a quality puss

>>20574129
then you don't know how to jack off, only thing special about pussy is the warmth, besides that its a wet hole with a grip inferior to my hand

>>20574147
>grip inferior to my hand
Stop fucking meat caverns and get real some tight punani then

>>20574111
Manga isn't reading because >>20573780

>>20574167
I fuck the tightest girls, sounds like you got some weak ass hands

>>20574176
That's not evidence or an argument, it's worth as much as me saying "Manga is reading because I can understand some page I read".

>>20574182
here u go bruv least i could do for the quality lol i had at that post

All i'm saying is that girls can never pleasure a man as well as a man could. They don't have dicks they don't know what feels good.

umm god made chinkos and mankos because he knows they work real well together

dont get me wrong 3d is fuckin trash but lmao if u think doin it with your hand is better than a vagine in any world

at least get on that tenga shit

>>20574259
You cant spell manko without man, dude.

i mean everything revolves around man

thats why we have chinko maturis and shit

i dont see ppl parading giant mankos around at jinjas and shit

How bad of an idea is to juggle both vn core and actual core decks at the same time?

why not just juggle both my nuts on yo chin

>>20573984
is that your real score? how much did you understand of it

>>20574208
Fine, real answer. Visual component of manga removes need for descriptions of actions, processes, etc. You're short changing yourself on vocab and grammar by 'reading' what is equivalent to a dialogue when you could get much more from novels.

when you learn kanji, do you learn the symbol, symbol and most common reading, or the symbol and both the kun and on readings?

i was thinking of scribbling in the on and kun readings (and just the most common if it has more than one on'yomi) into the Heisig book to look at on my commutes, and then review with anki in the evening. is that a decent plan?

>>20574339
this is the most wrong approach u can take and u will only end up miserable in the end

uve been graciously warned

>>20574018
who said nukige

>>20574018
ill give u a real tip about jacking off and reading

its not reading with the boner that allows u to absorb quickly

its that time just after u buss where u can really focus and read for like 2 mins

>>20574352
how so?

>>20574339
>learn kanji
this was your first mistake hope that helps

Man I really want to learn by reading ebooks after finishing the first 2 volumes of yotsubato and because the anime dragged me out of my darkest time in life a year ago I want to read Ladies Vs Butler, meaning れでぃ×ばと, but I can't find it anywhere.

I mean shit, I guess I'll have to make a japanese amazon account huh? Would really like to read it in a browser using yomichan. I know my taste is garbage, but can't anyone help me out here help

if you actually have the motivation to finish shousetu without a mouseover dict after 2 volumes of yotubato youre gonna make it more than anyone in this thread ever has

>>20574326
To be fair there's always that side character that describes the MC's actions

>>20574441
And in novels that person's called the narrator and they get a hell of a lot more time in the spotlight

>>20573780
It's important to note it's not just "read", it's "read more". Reading a couple of pages in Japanese every now and again isn't enough. You have to read a lot, or rather, you have to get a lot of exposure to the language. 7 years of reading is nothing if you read a total of like 10 manga volumes in that time or something. For reference I feel bad if I don't read a book (not an LN, an actual book) every couple days. When reading an LN series I try to get through one a day. Manga is 10 volumes a day minimum. Basically, read more is about volume - think about how much context and media a native has consume, and you should know how long it takes to get competently fluent. You gotta read more, anon. More.

>>20574392
some other shit work of the author is in the djt library enjoy that

>>20574473
>about to finish Jojo part 1 which is 5 volumes
>took about a month
>recommending 10 volumes/day MINIMUM
Wowee looks like I'll be home all day

this is my first post in the DJY. Because it will be the first DJT i've read to most recent post in years.
I'm sorry. I actually came here to laugh at you.

Anyone use this? Is it any good?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/wordhighlighter/

>>20574512
Well, I didn't mean to recommend that speed to a beginner. Obviously it'll take time to speed up to the point where that's possible. I just meant to give a general frame of reference for where someone who has spent 7 years learning the language should probably be. (I'm almost at 5 btw)

>>20574339
I learned the radical first. I didn't bother with heisig and I also didn't bother to know which reading is on and kun (if you see them so many times the readings will eventually stick). I once tried deconstructing kanji - by Joyou levels and then writing them by grades - and the readings still didn't stuck. Reading more (or probably doing anki) can help but I don't think writing down individual readings without context is going to be helpful.

>>20574339
>>20574361
Natives, who are exposed to the language 16hours a day for their whole life feel miserable at the end of high school when they're finally done with kanji studying
now imagine a baka gaijin who just started learning japanese, has no exposure to the language whatsoever and tries to do the same lol

>>20574326
All you have demonstrated with your reasoning is that manga is "less reading" (qualitatively), not that manga is "not reading".
On this I agree with you fully, because as you said, the narrator gets way less of a spotlight, or can even be omitted completely.
So far you have shown that manga is reading of a lesser caliber, but have yet to make a case for how it doesn't qualify under the category of "reading".

>>20573972
Did 10k which is like 2k but quit it around 9k because it sucks. Started reading again and now am around 13k, 20 review cards a day.

>>20573765
The Boondocks is good stuff

>>20574580
they should try reading more
but natives who study kanji in school already know the fuckin language
gaijintati should follow that example

>>20574675
How come you have so little cards?

What do if i can read and understand all of tae kim's basic grammar, but when i go to read yotsuba i hit a brick wall of "what the fuck; are these particles or are these hiragana words"
Just read more?

>>20574815
Is that your sentence mining deck? if so your retention rate isnt that good probably cause you dont read much (also seen by the 11 cards a day). When I reached 4000 cards i deleted 3000 of them af never looked back. You've probably got some old ass cards you dont need anymore. delete em

>>20574842
yes i remember that feeling very clearly. just keep reading and skimming the relevant tae kim pages when in doubt, it'll be over soon

>>20574268
woah

>>20574311
Coming from someone who does Anki for at least 75 minutes every day, that just sounds excessive.

>>20574842
what u do is watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime and be amazed that yotuba is the easiest thnig u ever read

>>20573765
why the fuck is the itazuraneko's site so convoluted i only wanted link to anki deck and had trouble finding it while in djt guite I found it instantly

>>20574815
>1500 cards due

>>20574815
Deleted core 10k it doesn't show deleted cards/decks

>>20574844
>sentence cards
lmao
I only add cards for words I can't read well that also have significant presence in my logs. I'm reading for 2 hours every day. The retention is pretty shit since I usually don't add much easy stuff to pad it with.

>>20574948
what

>>20574948
I feel your pain, coming back from 1000+ due cards fucked me up for at least a week

>>20575025
i had a feeling that could be why the rates were like that. if thats the truth you're doing better than me. whatchya reading recently?

>>20575025
Oh it was months, nevermind.

Those of you who do 40 new cards a day, what's your retention rate?

>>20575004
Can someone explain this one?

"Yomu me?" 読む＝Read/Yomu
So why the "め?" What does it accomplish?

>>20575076
Lately I'm mostly reading 老後に備えて異世界で８万枚の金貨を貯めます which is hurting me with disastrous reading speed hovering around 100 characters per minute. 38 hours on the counter and not even 1/3 through the available chapters. But hey, you have to get used to reading long sentences one day.

>>20575138
slow day huh

>>20574722
lmao how is that 人? I thought it was へ

>>20575138
|め|(int) no!/don't!/tsk!/used to scold small children and pets
he's scolding the kid.

the various counters aren't scary or important

how much difficulty would an average jap have reading こころ by 夏目漱石 with 0 furigana?

>>20575218
why do you need furigana it's already in hiragana lmao

>>20575200
ありがとう。

あなたはやさしい。

>>20575156
貴方はくそを食べますした。
貴方の母はくそ、ね？かのじょうのまんこはきたない。ばか。

>>20575225
>かのじょう
あなたにはないだwwwww

>>20575218
Anyone with a high school education wouldn't have too much trouble, though they might need to look up words sometimes.

>>20573773
264文字/分 at 社会人

>>20573780
I spent a while staring at it until I realized that 一般論なんてペラッペラなもんより was a single noun phrase. Fuck I hate being so slow.

>>20575190
theres even a べ near it to remind you what へ looks like
>>20575225
look up 読む in jisho
click show inflections
find 読め
google what imperative mood is

>>20575138
straight from tae kim:

Command Form

This command form is quite rude so you should use it with caution (if at all). As we learned just in this chapter, there are many other more polite ways to make a request.

Command form conjugation rules
For ru-verbs: Replace the last 「る」 with 「ろ」
Example: 食べる + ろ = 食べろ
For u-verbs: Replace the last u-vowel sound with the e-vowel equivalent
Example: 買う + え = 買え
Exceptions:
する しろ
くる こい
くれる くれ (exception for this conjugation only, not an exception verb)

嫁、余命2年
ほしいな

i took the jcat 6 months after i started studying and got exactly 200 points total. i am now 12 months in. will i get 400 points?

>>20575225
爆笑

>>20575262
How do you search on Tae Kim? Google? Just opening all sites?

>>20574473
So you're fluent, right? I'd think I was fluent if I could read a book in two days.

can someone help me with some grammar?
>私だって、お兄ちゃんのチンチラ大好きなんだから

what does the "なん" means? can it be "好きだから"?

>>20575293
just open your file and press ctrl, it's default for most software.

>>20575243
日本語の正しさが基準ならお前にもいない模様。

>>20575301
oh, right. I didn't download the pdf. NVM

>>20575297
same as なん、なの after any other な・だ type of thing

>>20575294
Pretty much when it comes to reading, though my production is poor. I can write a message and clearly convey my thoughts without looking too bad but it's usually pretty clear I'm a gaijin. Sometimes I can accidentally be rude, too, like saying ～ばよろしい to a business partner without realizing how rude that comes off until later.

It's kind of like, when you reach a high level of competency with reading, you can read your own writing and see what doesn't make sense, given that you actually understand the words and so on. But it's easy to forget a word you need to use, or to not realize that there was a better way to word it, and still struggle in that way.

From my own experience, I think it's clear that reading and listening a lot will directly improve your production. But I think production practice is, eventually, a necessity to speak fluently. However I am a shut-in and only ever speak when I need to for business reasons, so I'm stuck in this not-really-fluent zone.

>>20575310
>falling for the beito this hard
>writing in japanese
trury w

Nothing annoys me more than clicking on a 東方ボーカル vid and its fucking german vocals

Can you solve this 暗号?

>>20575338
seems like you haven't used anki enough there, pal

>>20575361
Could be, I stopped anki at 2 years out of 5.

Why did noone tell me that grammar was the hard part, not learning kanji.

Can someone explain this sentence to me?

That kara... I just don't get it. It's certainly not "net from cicade" but if it's the "reason for" kara, then why is it between net and cicada?

another rtk kid faces the music

>>20575293
i simply googled "tae kim command form"

>>20575338
Oh that sounds like me and the English language. If I can get that comfortable I'll be stoked. Thanks for the response.

>>20575372
hide the net from the semi

>>20575372
why can't it be net from cicade. kanji means "this is how it is [done]"

>>20575383
Why am I so unbelievably retarded though?

>>20575378
Which you can do if you know what's the right answer, but the anon you are talking to wondered about "me", not knowing it was the command form.

>>20575387
>>20575383
Yeah, I got it now. Thanks guys. Rip though, better giving up if this keeps me from making progress for hours.

>>20575349
It is effortless for me to respond in a bit of Japanese, so why not.

>>20575390
>Why am I so unbelievably retarded though?
cut yourself some slack. we all struggled with yotuba once

>>20575395
it is all good man just read or engage with whatever you enjoy

>>20575225
Jesus dude, yikes

>>20575370
kanji is easy, its just memorizing, and its even easier if you got autism like the majority on this board have

>>20575370
I tell this to people but they won't listen. Maybe because ankidroning makes kanji seem bigger than what they really are.

Just finished genki 1. Should I start reading a mango or a terrace house episode?

Also, how are you meant to mine sentences using i+1 when you're starting out at they're so rare?

why does everyone think this is an mia support group

also genkis out

im so bad at grammar i remember hearing somewhere that all japanese verbs are the same so i thought that all japanese verbs were the same type of verb until 1 year in i realized that 駆ける conjugates into 駆けった and 掛ける into 掛けた wtf?????????

unironically watch dolly

https://twitter.com/incunabula/status/1081143288722325504

it's fascinating how long chinese characters have remained the same. i suppose that's true of western alphabets as well but those are less numerous and complex so i don't care as much.

>>20575504
>dolly

jamal has told me i can't do something like two or three times.

>>20575390
He can just google "読む" and look at a dictionary which gives its volitional, imperative, past, present etc. forms

>>20575500
this is really sad

fuck im the jcat round 2 guy and i just sent in my application, but afterwards i noticed that its only been 5.5 months since last time. the website says you can only take it once every 6 months. will i be accepted boys?

>>20575520
九成宮醴泉銘 (Tang dynasty calligraphy)
If you try these shapes in modern Japanese school, you'll get very bad grades.

>醴
>あまざけ
Why can't they just write it as 甘酒 jfc

Adults can read and appreciate 醴.

>>20575589
where did you see that

>>20575606
>>20575556

>>20575612
well you'll probably never ever see it written like that and not like 甘酒 again

>>20575612
it's part of the word 醴泉 (れいせん), just in case

>>20573780
>if it weren't for the anime and porn I wouldn't give a single crap about it.
Well with that fucking mind set, no shit you haven't gotten any further with it.

Since a lot of kids in Japan begin to learn kanji during grade school, would it make sense to maybe give a look at study guides at that level and build from there? I've always read that you kinda have to retrain your brain on how to learn a new language, since basing it off English will brickwall you in the long run.

>>20575746
kids in grade school are fluent en nihongo

>>20573780
I feel embarrassed for you, dude. As someone who uses the language for little more than porn and crappy variety shows, there's nothing in that image I even take a second look at after 3 years. I can't even imagine the level of pure incompetence required to spend more than twice that time studying and yet still know only half as much.

>>20575746
In a way you do, but going for the whole "ONLY LEARN JAPANESE THROUGH JAPANESE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING" approach is unhealthy.
As with any language learning, once you get to a certain degree of understanding it makes sense to switch from bilingual study to monolingual, but making getting started even harder than it already is, is an effort in futility.

>>20575746
Do you have a decade to learn kanji? Then by all means, go ahead and follow study guides for fucking children.

For those of us who aren't mentally 5 years old, covering all the school taught kanji in 3 months is pretty typical. That's the difference between concentrated self-study and following a fucking school curriculum aimed at teaching both literacy and 50 other topics.

>>20575556
>...(品)物流形，随感變質
>應德效靈，介焉如響
>赫赫明明，雜遝景福
>葳(蕤繁祉)...
^in traditional chinese of today
below, in japanese shinjitai

>...(品)物流形、随感変質
>応徳効霊、介焉如響
>赫赫明明、雑遝景福
>葳(蕤繁祉)...
遝, 葳, 蕤 are obscure in Japanese.

damn i wish i could cover 2000 kanji in 3 months

>>20575547
not much sadder than most americans not knowing anything about american verbs either

"american verbs"

lol

>>20573780

I just don't know what to do.

I remember having learned about the DJT threads 4/5 years ago and decided to give it a try with learning Japanese, but after a few months, i ended up getting burnt out by the kangi and its variety of meanings, that i just had to stop and take a break. Unfortunately, this break resulted in a stall, which resulted in me not studying Japanese anymore, until finally, i decided to give up on it.

It wasn't all in vain though, since i did get to learn a bit of 日本語。まあ、ちょっとだけ。

Nowadays, I've been concentrating on learning how to draw with the hope of becoming an animator and create my own animated series someday.

I extremely love cartoons, which is the main reason of why i'm pursuing this, and also because i want to contribute to my country of origin in the field of animation.

But honestly, i just don't know anymore.

I would love nothing more in this world than to create my very own cartoon one day, but i also don't want to live a life and end up dying without having learnt the glorious language of Nippon.

What the fuck should i do?

I'm a HS dropout neet who's becoming 26 this year. TWENTY SIX.

I'm also going back to HS this year to get my education and hopefully go up to university, even.

I have to make a choice here and now.

Do i pursue the path of animation and cartoons?

Or do i pursue the path of ベストlanguage and すごいアンド可愛いproducts?

>>20575139
>老後に備えて異世界で８万枚の金貨を貯めます
Are you enjoying it? Usually I hear that narou works are trash

why does djt help out absolute beginners and pre-beginners but if it looks slightly hard then no one says anything concrete

>>20575860
人間（にんげん）
痰壷（たんつぼ）痰とはphlegm
養成所（ようせいじょ）
女優さん勇気いる

>>20575886
Number one, never try and type Japanese again. Number two, do whatever the fuck you want, retard.

Animation is a terrible field to try and get into, even more so as a 26 year old. But if it's what you want to do, do it. Otherwise you'll just be here in 5 years whining about the life you could have lived. Or you'll be here in 5 years whining about how all you do is braindead tweening work on garbage you hate.

Nothing is stopping you from doing both. Literally all you had to do to learn Japanese was to avoid "taking a break", and you can manage that with any workload in the world because learning nip takes 20 minutes a fucking day. But who knows, maybe you're just going to fail again because you're too stupid to realise this.

>>20575351
no but i would like to

>>20575886
>he didn't learn to draw and study japanese at the same time
ngmi, now that you no longer plan to be a NEET you might as well quit now

>>20573765
（六花）ごめん 今日 お店
開けなきゃいけなくなった
--Yeah, let's. --Sorry. I've gotta open the shop today.

i dont get the last part of this is this derived from
いけなくなる

why isnt this just
開けなきゃいけない

>>20575886
if you're fishing for motivation in a sort of "if i get enough responses..." way then here's mine: kys

>>20575889
because most of djt are insecure NEETs who have anki droned their way into seeming somewhat competent but in reality stay at the lower-intermediate range

>>20575924
開けなきゃいけないという状態に”なった”
開けなきゃ、いけなくなった
ちょっと前はそうではなかったが、今はそうだ。そうなったのだ。

>>20575886
was totally gonna read all that but rage quit at "kangi"

>>20575889
You know the answer so instead I'll ask you which posts in particular you'd like to see receive feedback.

>>20575889
not worth it ppl ask too much stupid shit

u can tell by the way their phrase their questions that their nihongo level isnt anywhere near the level where an answer helps them

>>20575786
you right except for the part where you seriously engagin discussion on how to memorize chinese houses
>>20575796
>For those of us who aren't mentally 5 years old, covering all the school taught kanji in 3 months is pretty typical.
difference is the children can actually use the chinese houses you can only draw them omigoto
>>20575972
there is still the fact that no one knows nihongo but yeah the amount of people asking for explanations that they would get nothing out of is stunning

>>20575889
Because all the smart people ask on the /int/ thread where there's actual qualitative discussion.
This is a shitposting thread with occasional useful things in it.

>>20575887
It has some trashy aspects like appearance of the dreaded 輪栽式農業 but is generally pretty enjoyable in its goofyness and has lots of fun feudal vocabulary. Seeing 剥奪 made me reinstall ck2

>>20575886
>I'm also going back to HS this year to get my education
how the hell is that possible if you're 26

>>20576004
LOL

>>20575951
Both posts I can point to right now have actually received appropriate feedback:

>>20573780 received, at least, >>20573799 (that guy was going to explain things in earnest, I think) but mostly a ton of sneering. I suppose >>20574473 has been well-meaning too.

>>20575138 received two earnest responses, but then you have to consider how simple that question was. Also people reacting vitriocally to >>20575225 when that was pretty cute broken Japanese, in my opinion.

Personally I wrote a silly post a few days back, to which, I think, some guy commented that it had basic grammar mistakes. I'm sure the style is bad but I wanted to understand better what my basic grammar mistakes were... >>20550608

>>20576004
>with occasional useful things in it.
lol

>>20575886
Convince me this isn't from reddit. You can't.

>内容による
does this mean "paying too much attention to details" or something

>>20576028
maybe in very specific context

>>20576013
entertaining the idea that >>20573780 was even asking anything is giving too much credit

>>20576037
What else does it mean?

>>20576051
Eh I guess. I have assburgers so I don't understand such things easily.

>>20576053
よる means depend, rely on, "accord" in "according to..."
内容 can be translated as content but the most natural English translation for that isn't always "content". But it does essentialy mean content. That which is put (容) inside (内).
So you can get the translation "depends on content".

>>20576013
>"what does 読め mean"
>slightly hard
Dude

>>20576053
Depending on the contents. This is not a 寄る but a 依る.

>>20576053
idk maybe google and 内容によると u might figure out why わたしはゲイ

I'm kinda new here. not to 4chan but to the djt thread and I would appreciate if you help me out here.

so i just finished hiragana and katakana. so what now? anki core 2k and do some grammar on the side?

I also hear some people talking about how studying kanji by itself is worthless and its better to skip kanji study and to learn it as you go in reading where its in context. is that true and should I skip kanji study?

also what are some good apps for anki on mobile?

any tips and pointers would be helpful.

>>20576075
Yeah that one was simple, my bad for listing it without changing my tone.

>>20576087
It doesn't really matter. Just read the guide and do whatever sounds good.

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1g08UiF4ChW

>>20576087
You can do what I am doing, core2k. When I get 1k ish cards down I will pick up tae kim more seriously while gradually moving to reading vns, manga, and J-dramas.

>>20576128
You seem to be confused. J-dramas aren't reading.

>>20576128
Don't forget j-cartoons too.

j-toons ftw

imagine not eating and drinking the things you want because some nerd on djt said it wasn't optimal

>>20576087
grind core2k and maybe even the DOJG deck while occasionally watching dolly videos because that's what's enabled me to finally start understanding some basic VN stuff to the point it's not a complete pain to read.

i dont even thnik thats the case i think they actually just dont want anything in the first place

they are comfortable in their rut of never being never achieving never moving forward and happy to never change lol

>>20576128
>When I get 1k ish cards down I will pick up tae kim more seriously
?
>>20576167
the secret is that eating and drinking the things you want is in itself optimal
even if you dont want to eat or drink anything then its optimal to not waste your time trying to learn nihongo
its always optimal

In that case I'll say it: DJT isn't "reading".

well thats a given

>>20575430
https://streamable.com/8t39u

https://streamable.com/h3g6y

飲ませて
食わせて
夢見せて

>>20576227
Why does he write A and A+1?

>>20576237
wait a sec yomichan doesn't parse the 3rd line as a complete word

>>20576087
When people say that you should skip kanji study they mean you should learn them alongside vocabulary, i.e. look at a card like 犬 and learn that it's read いぬ and means dog. For a compound it'd be something like 犬歯, which means canine (the tooth). Sometimes you can gather what the kanji mean individually based on the word - yes, the latter kanji means tooth - other times the compound's meaning is more abstract. Individual kanji study helps with those more abstract cases, but in the end you'll learn most common kanji's usual meanings through regular vocabulary study anyways, either because those are the first words you're introduced to or because you get a pretty good grasp of all the nuances of a kanji after already having seen it in three other vocabulary cards.
If you're on android, just search for anki.

>>20576128
Doing Tae Kim alongside anki is good because the example sentences tend to reinforce new grammar knowledge.

>>20576189
何を言っている、ＤＪＴより【純粋な日本語】の源泉はあるもんか

>>20576248
ひとかたまりでもないからね
夢を、見せて
「を」抜きで2単語のつもりなんで安心しろ

mainiti itiniti djt tempts my faith with non native vetted gaijin produced input but i will resist to avoid permanently crippling my output

>>20576251
せっかくだから源泉じゃなくて醴泉って言葉を使おう

【純粋な日本語の醴泉】
って飲むと日本語達者になるあまざけがのみたいな！！！やっぱ！！

>>20575218
ぜったいよめない

そうせきは

あてじしまくるので

ゆうめいだよ

>another 6 months and I'll have been here a year but only know 1k words

>>20576282
One of the better excuses to slack off I've heard on here

>>20576106
Without even getting into the benefit from having a monitored-ish daily routine going you don't want to break, you can't really argue against there being a time frame in a learner's progress during which it pays off to do isolated vocabulary study. Debating where the line is drawn is silly since it depends on what your grammar knowledge allows you to read how smoothly, which itself then plays into how comfortable you are with having to look up a lot of words while reading. I'd go ahead and bet that there are more people from djt that did anki for longer than you'd recommend and still ended up learning japanese than there are people that stopped after core2k with the intention to make up for it by reading more and actually pulled through with it - percentage wise, of course.

みんなすごいな : )

>>20576348
Do you just sit there one day thinking of every word you know and counting?

>>20576360
No I think he was just giving an estimate, autist-kun.

>>20573773
>tfw took the syakaijin test, didnt know all the words having to look some up + got a 170
how do i improve my reading speed? is it simply reading more?

>>20576366
The way he wrote it surely didn't feel like an estimate. I'd bet he's going by his anki stats or something.

list every word u know in japanese guys

ill start us off

unko
manko
chinko
nodochinko
dekachin
tankyusin

>>20576314
青空ならルビが振ってあるので手に入れやすいし読みやすい

>>20576143
I know, I need something to improve my future listening ability
>>20576154
Chinese cartoons are for normal fags
>>20576185
I was implying that I am already reading tae kim (very slowly)

>>20576353
>>/jp/thread/S20545425#p20548350

>>20576360
I'm going off my anki stats.

dekiru
dekinai
dekigoto
aru
iru
jackie ch-
fuck.

tawagoto

>>20576381
わたしはゲイ
でその探究心本位で日本中の男の子のちんちんをたくさん知ったのに
デカチン一本も見つからなくて、
言葉あるのにその対象の本物なんて無いってどういう事か気になる

なんじゃこれや

>>20576379
Nah man let's take the extra step, you're accusing the guy of being so much of an anki drone he thinks he knows the words anki tells him he knows, and no more, which is a real fucking dumb idea to project onto another person if I'm quite syoziki with you

fwiw posting itt is a real fuckin dumb idea

1k has to be a high end estimate so if anything I'm overselling my ability and should lament my dekinai status even more.

>>20576381
hen
dame
ijiru
nakadasi
kimoti
ii

>>20576491
Read above and feel stupid.

>>20576389
>good input is good
>therefore bad input is bad, meaning it will cripple progress!
Explain where the post you linked went from the first point to the second

俺が再び話しかけるより早く,
>i conversed more quickly again
let me know how i fucked this up. i can't make sense of this. i guess より has to be the adverb "more".

>>20576520
I seriously hope your reading comprehension in Japanese is better than in English, or you should ask DJT back for your money. Re-read my post, preferably after you take a big boy nap with a fresh mind.

>For people who truly want a native accent, I recommend avoiding all reading for the first year.
-matt

あなたはわたしよりゲイ

>>20576529
What you wrote means "before I had a chance to try talking to ... again, ..." (another actor implied).

>>20576544
栄光だわ
もっと褒める？

○「褒めてくれる？」
言った直後にわかったのに…

>>20576529
話しかける means to talk somebody up, like when you start a conversation, not to converse. And 再び is a pretty bad term to use here, but really the mistake starts further back at how literally you're trying to translate the sentence.
俺が前よりペラペラになった
もう一段速く話せるようになった (odd usage of hayaku still)
より流暢に話した

>>20576592
We both know that's not how it works, anon-chan. No redos.

>>20576572
>もっと褒める
Lmao look at this dumbass

>>20576521
it doesn't i was responding to your second quote not your first one

>>20576535
What's there to comprehend? You're just calling me dumb and accusing me of being an ankidrone. I don't even do anki lmao

7 months later and it has somehow gotten worse

I'm unbelievably stupid for asking a genuine question here but
>(ksa).　一男は友達に手紙を読まれた・読まれました。
>Kazuo's friend read Kazuo's letter (and Kazuo was unhappy).
Where did it imply hes unhappy about it?

>>20576612
自分の言葉を読み返して意味が「わたしが褒める」みたいになっててわたしは初めてわかったのよ
頭の中の日本語回路、アウトプットよりインプットに敏感らしいわ

>>20576627
lmao im in the screenshot maguroman ftw

>>20576521
oh you thought that was me
your mistake was somehow taking my post seriously when it was filled with memes
but i am curious in what way not reading djt is slacking off

>>20576628
Passive form just implies that the thing that happened was bad, it doesn't have to always imply this however in some uses

>>20576628
The passive when used like that is for unpleasant things.

>>20576627
this is the best djt has been in years look how many people are producin nihongo just like yall always complained we didnt do enough of

>>20576562
thanks, that does fit the context.

>>20576628
kazuo got/had his letter read by a friend

>>20576628
passive just feels like that lol

>>20576628
If you want to remove unpleasantness then this is used:

読んでもらった

if you ever wondered why passive isn't used instead of this weird 読んでもらった, now you know

>>20576643
>>20576646
>>20576650
>>20576651
>>20576659
Huh. Thanks boys.

>>20576647
That's mostly me and just a bit of another guy unfortunately.

>>20576618
Seeing it even less than tbqh. It's just a post praising consuming native material, which nobody ever has argued against. Doesn't get us closer to how useful isolated vocabulary study is.

>>20576626
>You're just calling me dumb and accusing me of being an ankidrone
I was joking but holy shit what are you on about?
>"You're accusing the guy of being [...] an anki drone" <- literally my post
>"What's there to comprehend? You're just [...] accusing me of being an ankidrone" <- you, to me

>>20576639
Not sure myself anymore, but
>but i am curious in what way not reading djt is slacking off
The knowledge of there being other learners around, studying and making progress (mostly) just like you are, can have a pretty big impact on sticking through with it. I think it's safe to say that the more active DJT posters are more likely to make it than the less active ones, but yeah, that's kinda stretching it I admit.

>>20576670
>which is a real fucking dumb idea to project
Read up on projection.

>>20576670
>I think it's safe to say that the more active DJT posters are more likely to make it

>>20576667
さっそく消せ

>>20576667
every time i see this all i can think is

TFW you're trying to turn DJT into "reading" but no one wants to talk to you in japanese. Assholes.

sorry until u guys stick to using correct japanese theres literally 0 point

>>20576708
i'm not good enough yet dude

I guess I'll go have a tall glass of manga then! Or maybe I'll go through a six pack of anime!

>>20576636
みんなそうな
あと、「初めて」をこのように使える人をＤＪＴで初めて見た。今にもその使い方を初めてみて混乱するのを覚えられるな。いやぁディエスイラエ最高だった

who missed the memo on reading native content
when a buncha forners exchange their novice language skills you know what happens
they invent a new language mutually unintelligible with what theyre tryin to learn

>>20574473
You don't read remotely that fast.

>>20576686
Holy shit that's some hard fucking core backpedaling. Yeah dude let's just pretend that never happened, smart move.

>Read up on projection.
Not every usage of the word "projection" has to be that of your inferiority complex based fallacy. The word's sorta more than that, mate.

>>20576721
ありがとうございます

>>20576727
>they invent a new language mutually unintelligible with what theyre tryin to learn
oops, you took a wrong turn and said something thats wrong even in the sense you meant it, try again!

>>20576731
I can't help you unless you want me to.

Be honest guys, how much time do you spend studying japanese everyday?

>>20576759
i dont study i just read porn and stuff in it

>>20576759
２４時間

>>20576759
depends

>>20576708
日本語をしゃべるときは 無名さんがたいていいじめる

You can't learn Japanese if you have low self-esteem.

>>20576772
>いじめる
not いじめてくる?

>>20576737
ill just double down and you can say it aint so

>>20576666
ナイスゲット
それに、まぁ、俺ゃただたまたま久々に顔を出そうと思ってただけなんだけど、うｎ、文章を磨ってもいいし少し停めようかな

>>20576772
タフラブなんのさ

>>20576784
やめて!!!

>>20576179
>they are comfortable in their rut of never being never achieving never moving forward and happy to never change lol
Literally me.

>>20576739
Hey, remember the time you failed to correctly read a sentence even after being told and rereading it a second time?

>>20576774
>have low self-esteem
>can't learn japanese because of low self-esteem
>self-esteem gets lowered even more by the incapability of learning japanes
That's some bullshit cycle I tell you what.

おにいちゃん

タスクバー

よこは？

たては？

imouto can move her taskbar this is breakin the illusion im startin to think she aint real

>キミにがまだ早いゾ
why does she feel the need to explain the effects of monster to a little boy?

>>20576829
None of this is real. Time to wake up, jamal.

>>20576759
An hour or two at most. I'm a huge slacker despite being a NEET and I know the more I procrastinate the longer it will take to get to a point where I'll enjoy the process.

that wasnt me dude get ur jamal detector fixed

>>20576791
来てくれたところ悪い
僕はもうアニメ観るぞ
美少女を見て補給しないと死ぬ頭脳構成になってるのでしょうがなくて
こういった毎日

>>20576793
i can't tell what the fuck is going on in that image

>>20576829
the fuck..... fuck u jamal for breaking my illusion too\

>>20576847
fuck u jamal for real for breaking tht illusion too

its like the matrix up in this bitch

>>20576805
what will happen if i install chrome OS on my desktop

>>20576874

nothing

i use it because it's more stable than chromium. it just works.

would yall like me to type two lines minimum from now on
so you can more easily tell i aint itiban tuyoi shitposter

>>20576841
>have correct nihongo in front of you
>still fuck it up
Oh man

>>20576848
「観にいくぞ」ってより自然だとおもうよ
ということで俺も今日はこれで

u can do what u gotta do

>>20576900
なるほど～
お体をお気をつけください（正真正銘の日本語）

is current jamal actually the same jamal that introduced white t sho to djt
surely he hasnt spend the last 3 years shitposting on here

>>20576900
I know it's correct, I just want to know why. Is she a salesperson? Does she need the boy to be faster?

>>20576814
よこ
した
いもうとは？

>>20576912
i aint been here 3 years but
i bet ntr has been here from the start

>>20576915
You miscopied the sentence mang
Also, in case you aren't trolling she's saying it's still too early for him to drink it

>>20576918
What did you just do

>>20576912
<--

>>20576923
i aint been here from the start else i woulda had this shit taken care of a lot sooner before yall got stuck in the old rut back on that other board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6lgdkrf4E#t=19

>>20576841
Not what that means, plus with that kanji it doesn't even mean "fast"

>>20576949
You keep mocking people for using anki and conversing in crappy Japanese with each other, but I hardly ever see you speak Japanese yourself, what gives?

Is this a good read for a beginner?

>>20576975
idk i'm a beginner

>>20576939
>You miscopied the sentence mang
What do you mean? It says
どうぞー　キミにはまだ早いぞ～

>>20576968
id love to just engage in japanese and send it out into void for no one but unfortunately my hands are tied

https://streamable.com/f43ix

>>20576967
早い means fast my nigga, as in "this shit will make you まだ/even faster"

>>20576975
prolly not because u have do read and do thinking about what u read but if u wanna do it just do it and see what happens

what the worst that can happen

Can someone please share Sword Art Online Progressive ebooks? They're on Amazon Japan but I'm a neet and don't have money for a VPN.

>>20576915
Good Lord stop being so confident in your ability when you're a beginner that's studied for 3 months like yourself. We've all been there but fuck

>>20577006

if anyone here does know nihongo it must be hella lonely knowin no one could understand you
>>20577011
the worst that can happen is that your smile and motivation can be permanently crippled and youll never try to read again

>>20576987
As opposed to
>キミにがまだ早いゾ

>>20576991
Man imagine someone saying this about literally any other language, "Listen dude, I'll gladly help you out with studying French as well, but don't expect me to actually speak in it with you."
Just
???

It's like y'all drowned in the sauce and can't see the world normally again from all le cringe

>>20577006
8/10 troll

>>20577024
Whatever. I still think you're wrong and you've made zero attempt to disprove the way I've read the sentence.

>>20577023
our boy been in the toilet so long he lost touch with reality dont be harsh

>>20577032
i woulda taken you seriously without the まだ/even
advice for the future go out and shitpost furiously

Do you guys recommend turning your PC and web browser and everything to Japanese?

its pretty weeby but its free always there exposure i recommend it

>>20576841
I'd explain, but 君にはまだ早い

>>20577023
Yeah speaking with an actual native speaker is probably cool because they can help you better than for example this thread's standard fare sub n5 anons.

>>20577032
https://chigai-allguide.com/早いと速い/

早い Means "early" it doesn't mean fast
速い Means fast, they are written with different kanji
Nuances are written with different kanji for some words, like 聞くand such


https://djtarchive.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html#まだ
まだ Does not mean whatever you think it means, don't use the dictionary for adverbs

So it means "it's still early for you"

You're probably trolling but I'll prost this anyway in case any newfags are around and want to read it

>>20577046
No. It's annoying as fuck and I've never seen the technical terms used outside of my own PC/Browser, just look up a list of technical terms and add them to your minnymanny deck

>>20577046
if you read enough already the effect seems minimal but do what makes you happy
>>20577055
sick

>>20577067
never gonna make it

>>20577067
whyd you have to go and say to memorize a bunch of shit out of context that youre intentionally avoidin so youll never use

>>20577061
No shit. This is about people that are actually somewhat competent at it. It's dumb how embarrassed intermediate learners get about being bad at a language they haven't gotten good at yet, like Jesus Christ dudes, just churn out some language turds and get yourself corrected, worst case you get no replies and just proceed with an open mind knowing that what you wrote might be completely wrong

>>20577073
Already did

>>20577088
Apologies, meant to an add "if you really want to learn them" after the comma

>>20577091
>and get yourself corrected

日本語ペラペラの夢を追うのはもう手遅れだ

我がニンジャよ

>>20577110
>日本語ペラペラの夢
何か違和感をおぼえるよ、言葉を改めてみない？

>>20577091
or don't bother and just wait a few years

>>20574111
I'm rubber you're glue, don't reply to me again too.

>>20574473
>>20574842
>>20575430
>>20576128
Wow cool stories but manga isn't reading.

>>20576791
Question: I understand that as you saying that you'll stay, but wouldn't you then say 停まろう?

>>20577139
Oh true, I used the transitive form. Thanks

>>20576729
I read that fast, but I also have a lot of spare time in a day and have been reading as my primary method of learning Japanese for the past 3 years.

I was lectured by a friend and I feel like I should clarify that a wageslave normie working 8 hours a day plus commute can't really be expected to read a book a day, which is a fair point. You need not only the time to read a book, but also enough free time to do things other than reading such that you aren't dedicating all of your free time to do one singular thing.

Have you ever bought and held a physical light novel, by the way? I have, and they're laughably small. It feels like you could crush them in your hand if you aren't careful. I stack my light novels next to my western novels and a few fantasy books like Malazan equal the height of an entire light novel series stack. It's a good thing that most people here read scans/ebooks, because holding a tiny light novel and taking days/weeks to get through it would be a huge motivation hit. Once you get to even like, half the speed of a Japanese native, it's trivial to jump on the couch with a LN and finish in a single session.

>>20577148
Ah... by contamination from 停めてもらおう probably?

>>20576975
i read it after reading my first ln and had a pretty good time. it uses quite a lot of kanji that usually arent used and has no furigana so keep that in mind. stuff like 微かな, 生き屍. i learned a lot from it and it made a good bridge between light novels and real novels. i recommend it!

>>20577163
japan is worse than the jews not only are they tiny but half of every page is blank space

how much does a full ln series cost vs just a regular full length novel

think about it

>>20577163
The "real" novels I have are that size as well. Do you feel like there is a difference in how hard "real" novels and light novels are? I can't really feel one, but I've only read a handful of each

>>20577172
Not even. It took me a good minute to hit upon a right sounding way to say "Guess I'll stay" and eventually just lost my grip on the sentence, probably

>>20577130
big if true

>>20577193
Aaah, there's definitely "real" novels that size too, I've been given murder mysteries just as tiny. I should use more official terminology (these tiny books being bunko format) but whatever.

I'm still just beginning my true novel journey (mainly read VNs up until now) but in my experience, nah, there's not much of a difference. It's all about the subject matter and author. Light novels can even be harder since they cover all sorts of fantastical concepts whereas more mature titles are more down to earth. Assuming we're not talking about like, pre-war literature here, which I'm completely inexperienced with. Weeb for life.

how long have u been "learning" "japanese" and how much of "this" do u "understand"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC-wDpwzEt4#t=116

>>20577271
All of it, because there's subtitles. Next?

oh uh *anime sweat drop* hows about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M67OhnFiZT4

this djt is a bit too hutuuni nihongodekiru for my tastes

has anyone ever been as based as bose

>>20576814
お兄ちゃんは性転換しているのでこれからはせめて「おねえちゃん」と呼んでほしいのよね

はいそこまでストップ

>>20577383
もう止めん

can the N6 posters start posting in japanese again

これ以上もう耐えられない

飲ませて

あなたの日本語（意味深

わたしのpissをたっぷり飲ませてやる

おしっこだけが英語になってるとアメリカのAVを連想してしまう
具体的にはなんか身体褐色気味の白人なヤンキーガールが蹲踞してモザイクもかけられてない丸見えのつるつるなおマンコを手でいじりながら勢いで太いおしっこを出してるみたいなシチュが浮かんでくるけどすごくいやらしい
どうしてこうなる

>>20577509
わかる。

>>20577509

>>20577509
I'm so not reading all that shit.

its funny as fuck actually im still lolling

「重い」と「重たい」の違いは何ですか？

>>20577614
お、おもたくないよ！

>>20577624
あたしの質問に答えてください

>>20577636
ぜんごよまなきゃわかんない

>>20577636
重たいとはなにより感想を表す言葉という気がします
重みや重さで苦痛しているイメージです

日本語わかる人

いますか

>>20577130
Assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>>20577845
かんじゃんさん

どうなされましたか

>>20577845
これはペンです？

productionって生産という和訳になるんだけど、生産には子を生むという意味もあって、それを可能にするinputという前段階の外部からの働きかけはすなわち種付け中出しで、それこそ毎日のようにたっぷりで何度も、語彙の広い（ちんぽのでかい）でよく話してくれる（射精量のすごい）、そしてなにより愛のある相手にしてもらうと自分の身体（の一部である脳）から立派な日本語が限りなく生まれ続けることになるのでは
ちなみにわたしはゲイ

>>20578049
そう
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0096PE5JW

>>20578053
「語彙の広い」彼氏をどこで会えますか？
いっぱい、いっぱい丈夫なオスと日本語で交わりたいのにそうそう見つけないもんですわねぇ
ちなみにわたしはお姉系美人

いったいなんだろう！？TaeKimが自分のサイトを消してしまったぜ！

オーの～
nobodys every gonna be able to learn japanese again

>>20578098
小説などで妄想しながら我慢するのがこのスレで主流らしいな

>>20578101
>いったいなんだろう！？
おかしい感嘆符を付けてやがって
だれも気付かんとおもったか？それは大間違いだった。ちょうど今、自分でもなにを書いている、なにを言いたいかわからんちょいと長い文章書き込んでやる
遅いな
ねようか

>>20578118
小説か
小説ね
なに面白いエロ小説あるの？

>>20578101
怖い

>>20578140
>なに
なにかっていいたかったんですけおぉ

>>20578140
>やがって
草
「てめぇ」みたいなｗ

>>20578148
はい、それはターゲット印象でした。ありがとうございます。

>>20578101
また見て

>>20578163
どうしてそんなに怒りw

>>20578171
アートです。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oxdPY9eH48

BROS I've been watching Terrance House and I want to join sooooooooo badly and be the kawateiru dekai gaijin and get a cute kanojo but it's never going to happen.... How do I deal with this feeling???

What if we make a Terrance House spinoff but the cast are all pulled from DJT, kanjikoohi, Lingq and LearnJapanese? And you wear a shock collar 24/7 so if you speak a language besides Japanese you get punished. The comedy panel would be Steve, Matt, Nukemarine, and namasensei. I think it could work

>>20578338
I just finished 1st season of the 1st series yesterday. I liked it until I realised how scripted it was, plus one of the girls who were there after the show said how they were directed what to say and spent like 1 hour a shooting day in that house.
It's a fake show that you can enjoy if you take it as fiction drama.

>>20578361
It's not fake, but keep being a hater. No sweat off my back.

>>20578284
Very ゲイ sound effects in this one. What was **** thinking?

>>20575520
https://www.omniglot.com/writing/phoenician.htm
Ours has been the same for a long time too.

>>20578468
Cut him some slack. He only got $2500 this month to make that video.

>>20578404
>-Lauren explains to Metropolis Japan "It's probably the least real reality show." She says we weren't filmed 24/7 and the crew would come around and hour during the day and a few hours at night. It was filmed "like a japanese drama"
>-Lauren states it was really awkward at times, when we weren't filming we were told not to talk by the producers. She says "But seriously what are we supposed to do for the entire day?" So obviously we talked and did stuff, so that caused a lot of tension between people living there and the producer, so it was stressful.
>-She explains "it is non scripted but at the same extremely scripted" also we only filmed a couple of hours a day but not every day. What you say is what they want us to talk about. "They don't tell us exactly what to say. Though they know what kind of story, they want to edit in their minds so they force that content to be created."
>-Lauren states the editing afterwards gave the producers a lot of power to manipulate the drama, which made watching the show unbearable for all its cast members.
>This part of the article has now been deleted by Metropolis Japan.

>>20578404
>>20578654
BTFO manchild
but at least he'll learn true nihongo with raw terrace house drama and decks

>>20578654
source?

>>20578349
Add curedolly too

Djt is always dead during european prime time. Are there not many european weaboos I wonder?

>>20578903
European prime time starts in 4 hours.
This is school/work time in Europe.

>>20578903
European weaboos are too busy learning Japanese. We all know it's burgers shitting up the thread with endless wankery and their unhealthy love for all and any cults.

>>20578830
https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/109662360.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-OHHqTap7o

>>20578903
Checking in

>>20578903
Because it's not european prime time.
The only euros likely to be on rn are uni students and NEETs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oxdPY9eH48

>He has to play Japanese audio over himself to hide his pronunciation
top kek

at least its not an hour long

reminder to fucking read today

>>20579259
>uni students and NEETs
as opposed to what

reminder to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5y4L4bneyM#t=77 today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh30rLcJkj4
How funny and warm is this?!
Just makes you wanna go to 日本 and start a cute family

grown ass man wearing hxh shirt its actually just cringe as hell

reminder 今日はフライデー
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6NLFkGdIww

no its not u stupid motha fucka

>>20579440
Reminder to listen to actually good jap rap instead of the actual trash you just posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNBiaZbFGII