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you just broke the whole nasuverse
congrats dipship

Actually it was due to HF

>Lancer would be a pushover
Oh, so he WOULDN'T just Gae Bolg Shirou through the heart, then?

>Caster and Shirou would be a servant raping force the likes of which the grail war had never seen before

THEY CAN BOTH RAPE SABER

>>2048150
Shirou beat off Lancer with a rolled up poster. He can't even resist a command spell like Saber and stabs himself when Kotomine commands him to kill himself for not obeying him, and gets beat by True Assassin, the weakest melee character other then Caster.

Okay, fine, you've convinced me that I want a caster route too. Now we can whine about there not being a caster route together!

Are you happy now?!

>>2048155
>Shirou beat off Lancer with a rolled up poster.
Lancer never seriously tried to fight anyone other than Archer at the church. Well, he did try against Gilgamesh, but you know how well that goes over.

>He can't even resist a command spell like Saber and stabs himself when Kotomine commands him to kill himself for not obeying him
Saber has HUGE magic resistance. Lancer does not. Command seals can be resisted by those that can resist magic.

>and gets beat by True Assassin, the weakest melee character other then Caster.
After getting trapped by a Servant-eating shadow that nobody would have even believed could've existed. And he was still technically under his command seal not to fight at his fullest against True Assassin since that was the first time they had met.

tl;dr

Lancer is Nasu's plot whipping boy.

>>2048130
The fact that the initial Shirou/Caster communication would lead to some poor, good boy's death hinders the actual route development.
BUT WE CAN DREAAAAAAAA<

The only time Caster would team up with Shirou is past the middle, after Saber gets eaten by the shadow.

>>2048168
Oh wow, sauce?

>>2048170
They could just omit HF altogether and in it's place put an Ilya route and a Caster route.

>>2048166
Every Servant but Saber only REALLY shines for a route, maybe a route and a half.
Archer mostly in UBW
Gil UBW and Fate later halfs.
Berserker, Fate
Caster, UBW
Rider, HF( and a little in fate)
Lancer, UBW
Assassin, UBW and Fate swordfights (3 scenes, then just gets eaten)
True Assassin, HF(forced to fight in a way that does not suit him)

Lancer is not WORSE of then most servants.

>>2048170
If Caster met Shirou like she did with Kuzuki, there's a good chance she would have fallen for him. She acts tough but underneath it all she's an emotionally wounded woman looking to be loved. I think she'd come to like his personality.

>>2048130
>Tsukihime characters? Not even a prayer against a Caster/Shirou team.
a True ancestor who is supressing 90% of her power would like to have a word with you...

>>2048176
source is Gilgamesh vs Rin

>>2048176
Gilgamesh Vs. Rin doujin. Non-H and I believe that's one of the last pages.

you must defeat Zelretch to stand a chance

>>2048184
...You faggots ruin everything.
>>2048192
You too.

>>2048192
>You don't stand a chance.
Fixed.

>>2048207
I'm sure if anyone could think of a way to beat it, it would be a powerful sorceress who lived in the age of gods.

>>2048197
As I've said, all he'd have to do is say that he'd become her hero to make her orgasm where she was standing.

>>2048192
hey ORT, is this a thread about powerlevels? who wins? what do you think?

>>2048155
I'd beat you with my rolled up poster, if you know what I mean.

>>2048183
Gilgamesh only "shines" for a single scene in F/HA. Fate and UBW are fucking nothing.

>>2048150
Gae Bolg's likelihood of striking the heart is most commonly known to be affected by the target's Luck, but its also mentioned that it can be blocked by a sufficient magical force. Its just nothing but Caster, Rho Aias, or Avalon would have sufficient magical force to stop the attack.

>>2048197
"WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING, STAY BACK THERE AND SUPPORT ME"

Yeah, Caster would like Shirou's personality.

>>2048184
30% at the start of the game, and 30% near the end of some of the routes (where Roa's been dealt with).

Too bad Gaia both boosts AND limits her combat parameters to just enough to crush whatever her target is, and that she'd lose Gaia's support and become the target of the counterforce the second she stopped suppressing her vampiric urges.

>>2048233
>Avalon
When could Shirou use Avalon again?

>>2048233
Actually, Magical energy is not the focus. If you have lots, it means you recover fast if you do not drop dead instantly.
Simple Gae Bolg is a a NP attack, rank B.
Either high luck, divine protection etc or a high-rank protective spell that stops the curse.
And considering how fast it comes out and it's a simple attack (unlike the thrown one), UNLESS YOU HAVE META knowledge, good luck preparing whatever protection.

It took, what, 5 seconds for very early Dark Sakura's tentacles to take Caster and make her stuff Rule Breaker up Kuzuki's ass? If she didn't have Dark Saber and Berserker act like faggots there'd be Shirou's parts splattered all over the place.

Can they even take a single Squared spell?

>>2048235
She'd think he was an idiot for wanting to be a superhero, but the moment he actually started trying to fight for her would be the moment she'd start blushing.

And Caster isn't as naive as Saber is in regards to being female. If anyone could make Shirou follow what she was trying to explain, Caster could, even if she had to briefly bind him and gag him with magical BDSM gear.

>>2048244
From that faggot? Sure, since he can't even use it.

This guy, not so much.

>>2048244
Can he even cast one?

>>2048197
>If Caster met Shirou like she did with Kuzuki, there's a good chance she would have fallen for him. She acts tough but underneath it all she's an emotionally wounded woman looking to be loved. I think she'd come to like his personality.
Now that I think about it that way, a Caster route sounds really appealing.
But show would she gather mana? I don't think Shirou would agree to the method she uses in UBW.
Unless... they do constant mana transfers...

>>2048251
CONSTANT mana transfers. This is Caster we're talking about, here.

>>2048223

I do not know what you are talking about, mortal. By "powerlevel," do you mean one's ability to effectivly seal another's movement for eternity? If so, then I must say that all you mortals are all equally feeble. I'll tentacle rape your "powerlevels" any day, mortals.

>>2048253
I'm liking this idea more and more.

>>2048239
really? if i remember it correct was 70% then when Shiki killed her and after that she needed 90% to supress her vampiric urges..if not my bad.

>>2048248
>>2048249

In Actress Again he comes fully aware of Square, which he uses as his Arc Drives. In Overload, his Last Arc, his lightning doesn't even look like lightning as much as big shadowy tendrils due to the spatial interference (even light is destroyed?).

>>2048244

i think i've seen this somewhere

>>2048257
Stop roleplaying.

You're forgetting key facts here. If Caster is Shirou's servant this means he still continues to rely on Reinforcement. If they're the OP team you say they are, then Archer wouldn't give him a chance to even move. The only time Shirou would get to see UBW is in the 5 seconds of life he has before Archer impales him to death with it. So no UBW revelation. Caster would probably think he should just continue to rely on reinforcement the whole time which means he's still as pathetic as ever. Even a godlike magician wouldn't be able to realize that Shirou has the potential for creation of a reality marble and that he isn't truly projecting so much as pulling weapons out of his archive in UBW. Think about this instead, Ilya and Archer team. Ilya runs around slashing with jeweled blade while Archer watches.

>>2048271

The moment Kuzuki punches Roa in the face and the Square spell dissipates so he can't make a spatial quarantine barrier anymore and can only work with a normal one, Roa was fucked.

And then sudden Nrvnqsr Servant from out of nowhere.

>Shirou strengthened and quickened by Caster's magic
It would work if Shirou already had battle experience, wich he hasn't. He could stand up to Saber in HF only because he retained battle experience from Archer's arm.

>her ability to gather and supply Shirou with mana
Ahaha, it doesn't matter how much mana Caster supplies Shirou, his capacity is so fucking low it'd be useless.
He would have to create a link with Caster the same way as with Rin during UBW, but we don't know if it can actually work with Servants ( no I'm not talking of "mana recharging" via sex ).

>instruction in magical ability and its use
True Caster would be an awesome teacher, but has she the time ? No, so it's useless, maybe she can create some hax item, but I doubt anything she can craft can surpass Saber-powered Avalon.

Sorry to say that, but ranged classes are pityful in the grail's games, even Archer fights more in melee than with his bow.

>>2048266
No, that's correct. I was saying she had 30% of her total power at those times (because 70% was being used to suppress the vampiric urges).

>>2048278

Ilya can't use the Jeweled Sword, only Zelretch's apprentices descendants can.

>>2048278
Obviously it would require some thinking to devise a plot for the route.

>>2048237
When he was partnered with Saber. Point being he's dead.

>Tsukihime characters? Not even a prayer against a Caster/Shirou team.

Can you even touch Wallachia motherfuckers?

>>2048287
thanks.. looks like i need some sleep

>>2048251
DO WANT.

>>2048183
I found Berzerker to be more awesome in UBW because of the part where he just tries to get to Gilgalmesh even though he knows he can't beat him, just because he wants to protect Ilya.

>>2048303
Shirou would probably imagine Kiritsugu or something which would result in him getting seriously fucked up.

>>2048284
Saber wouldn't have Avalon because it's destroyed, and the pieces are still in Shirou's body.

>>2048308
>Shirou's greatest fear
>Kiritsugu

>>2048251
The only servant that could stand to Shirou's hero bs was Saber.
Caster would just get tired of him and using Rule Breaker she'd find herself a master more serious about the war.

>>2048308

wat

>>2048305
One of my favorite lines in the whole VN.

>>2048305
Kuzuki is awesome

DID SOMEONE SAY CASTER/SHIROU COOPERATION?

>>2048318
Doubtful, I still say she'd fall for him. She's cooler and much more powerful then Rin to boot.

>>2048278
We don't know how Archer would react to Shirou being with Caster. He might outright try and kill him, he might watch how this version of his past self interacts with her. Archer has some weaksauce magic resist too to go up against Caster.

>>2048432
He still kicked her ass in UBW.

>>2048432
Archer was doing pretty damn well versus Caster in UBW.

>>2048432
Wasn't she holding her own on top of the shrine, and Archer used her proposal to escape from the battle with Rin?

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>>2048446
Archer didn't fight Caster. He "lol, swordspam" back stabbed her while she wasn't paying attention. And he only got her because she tried to protect her master from the swords.

>>2048446
...Fucking read it again.
Please.

>>2048451
Someone ignores or underrates what happened sometime before this...

>>2048451
Not when he went to go save Shirou. He dodged everything she threw at him, purposely missed with Caladbolg, I believe, and the shockwave or whatever you would call it basically ripped her to shreds.

>>2048464
>>2048467
Ahhh but if it was a Caster route then he wouldnt have any of his UBW plot armour and thus would be about as good as Lancer.

And would get killed off at the first opportunity.

In a humiliating manner.

>>2048509
Perhaps you're right but we'll probably never know.

>>2048523
You know in a few years there will be a remake, just like with Tsukihime. TM is gonna milk it as much as possible.

>>2048534
I know that, but they still might not include a Caster route.

Just kinda wondering... was there ever an explanation as to why Caster offed her first Master?

What about Caster/Shirou/Archer where Archer betrays Rin and becomes Caster's servant, with odd 3 way sex mana transferring commencing.

>>2048534
Doubtful.
Tsukihime gets a remake, mostly because it was a doujin game.
This has already gotten a port for PS2.
Anything concerning the specific storyline is doubtful.

>>2048509
Calling it PLOT armor is stupid.
And if you are like Lancer, that means that without fighting at fullest, you can SURVIVE an encounter with each servant, and fucking near-fatally injure the 'best' one.
Yeah, that's bad.

>>2048546
He was a dick who treated her like shit and crippled her usefulness by making sure she was always weaker then he was.

>>2048546

She didn't like how he did things; he was the wait-for-them-to-come-to-you like Shirou, apparently.

>>2048554

Caster between 2 Shirous? Fuck yes.

>>2048546

>>2048546
abused her and tried to rape her. Sealed her with a command spell to make her weaker than he is, so he beat her around.

Caster/Shirou is definately a more attractive pairing then "woe is me" Saber or "I can't admit my feelings so I'll throw out verbal abuse" Rin.

Sakura would be an ok wife but "Lol penis worms"

Rider and Caster are the only good options and you don't get those choices.

>>2048239
if this is true, then, I wonder why gaia and the counter force didn't do shit agaisn't the other demon lords?
no one could do shit agaisn't them until arcueid was born, and that did take some years. So, no instant counter force to beat crimson moon like level monster, we still have to wait some years until another lolzelretch happens

>>2048600
Disregarding your oversimplifying of the other relationships, RIDER route shows much promise.

>>2048625
Rider route would be good so long as Sakura gets killed off ~Day 2.

Shirou/Berserker is the best route.

>>2048600
>"I can't admit my feelings so I'll throw out verbal abuse" Rin
But the dere-dere is so worth it

>>2048648

>>2048625
>>2048646

Rider totally has the hots for Shirou too, it would be some amazing sex scenes that we'd all bitch that Nasu fucked up.

>>2048652
I told you it hurts! I'm never having sex with you again Shirou!

>>2048662
Like by adding Sakura to them?

>>2048662
Hey, 1 out of 10 scenes are good.

>>2048667
Don't remind me.

>>2048668
SHIROU THE JACKHAMMER STRIKES AGAIN

Still want a Taiga route

>>2048668
we all know Rin liked it

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>>2048676
more or rs link would be appreciated

>>2048689
Non-H Chronicles of an Infinite Urun-Urun Pleasure Trip.

>>2048676
*fap*

>>2048683
But too bitchy to admit it

>>2048689
nevermind found a link.

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>>2048809
No Caster in this :(

>>2048816

>>2048809
And that, folks, is why we don't have an Ilya route.

It's actually a very appropriate metaphor; if there had been an Ilya route, the game wouldn't have been released either due to time constraints or particularly vague legal limitations.

>>2048796
...Uterus sex? That doesn't seem physically possible. Wouldn't you have to break the cervix to do that?

>>2048875
Shirou's a beast.

>>2048875

>>2048875
He breaks all those swords he traces, punching through Rin's cervix and depositing his heroic seed seems easy in comparison.

>>2048855
Would there be legal limitations? There are lots of games with way more loli-like fuckable characters than Illya.

yeah well F/UC says that Gilgamesh is the best so I'm going with that

SURE IS FLOOD DETECTED, FILE DISCARDED AROUND HERE

>>2048913
Gilgamesh can't beat Shirou, how would he even stand a chance against a Caster powered Shirou? It would be violent buttrape, and not the good kind he's used to with Enkidu.

>>2048886
This has nothing to do with anything. Yes, Shirou is rough, but that scene doesn't mention him going through her cervix.

>>2048889
The point isn't whether or not he could do it, it's that Rin wouldn't survive without immediate medical attention. The average cervix is about 7-8 millimeters wide, and we've all seen Shirou's dick. It wouldn't fit, so he would literally be tearing up her insides in a place where there's an insane amount of blood flow. Sure, her magic crest would keep her alive, but they wouldn't finish.

>>2048949
download Monzetsu Explosion and enjoy the uterus sex

>>2048909
It's very vague.

>>2048949
You realize that women give birth and a baby passes through the cervix, right?

I'm not saying its possible but a cervix can dilate, it can stretch plenty wide to accept the Shirouhammer.

>>2048956
You now have the image of a John Peta drawn doujin where Shirou jackhammers Rin's uterus and Rin bitches about getting pregnant.

>>2048957
The cervix changes and grows during pregnancy, and becomes looser during the birth. A woman can't open it up at will (though I suppose a magus might have methods), and forcing it open is like anal sex where your partner just refuses to unclench their ass. There will be blood, and it will hurt. A lot.

But hey, I'm just applying real-world rules (and quite a few assumptions) to hentai, so don't mind me. The idea of Rin using some form of magic (reinforcing the tunnel properties of her cervix, causing it to widen and allow more through?) in order to let Shirou get that much deeper is pretty damn hot.

>>2048956
...That's not even worth a response.

>>2048970
....Somebody needs to commission this.

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>>2048989
I can't stop laughing at the censoring

>>2049034
Emiya Shirou, black from the waist down.

Uh how big is Shirou's dick really? Are we talking about 12-14 inches here?

>>2049052
No, just larger than most Asians.

I kid, of course; Rin was referring to what it looked like flaccid, because she saw it after he almost killed himself.

>>2049064
Obviously long enough to push against Rin's cervix.

Needs more character analysis copypasta

Ilya has daddy issues and a really fucked up moral compass for a magus. Her affection for Shirou sometimes borders on incestuous.

Sakura craves sex and uses Shirou to satiate that need. But if it came down to it, she wouldn't even protest if Rin suddenly lost her mind and tried to fuck her. Plus mammoth guilt issues and cowardice.

Saber has an hero complex, and no sense of sexual identity--she's pure in the areas she SHOULDN'T be, which is why Caster picked on her.

Shirou has no sense of self-preservation and is a moron through and through. He's also a self-shaming sexual beast with little to no consideration for his partner(s).

Rin is the most overcompensating virgin ever witnessed in a text medium, and is possibly terrified to admit, despite her deep love of Shirou, that she might lean more to girls than boys. She's also got massive ego problems, is gullible, and lol her family.

Shinji has inferiority issues up the wazoo, leading to a sense of self-entitlement and aggressive bully feelings he usually lets out the most on Sakura (and seeing as her body DOES crave sexual attention, she's hurt all the more for this abuse). He's no leader, and his family's magic is a joke and a blight.

Souichirou also lacks self-preservation, and is a sociopath unlike no other.

>>2049075

Archer is a broken man, not even enough to be considered a full heroic spirit. The fact that the thought of self-destruction is his only drive speaks leagues of a touched and ill individual, hiding behind a mask of snappy comebacks and keen intellect.

Rider is a masochist with a general disdain for the everyday man. She had deeper and darker roots, but tries (poorly, when she DOES try) to keep them in check.

Caster is all kinds of screwed, to a point of personality dysfunctions. There is a girl inside of her wanting nothing more than to be held and loved, but it can't get past the brutal and relentless killer that holds no value to life, and the crying woman who tries to seek peace and balance between the two. She's also a jealous person who would muddy and sully any who seem pure to her.

Lancer has a fucked over sense of pure justice (less entitlement) that's typically drowned out by his own black morals and insatiable bloodlust. Given the chance, he'd have fought every Servant up front and brutally murdered anyone who dared to interfere.

Assassin is a broken narcissist. Who's sword technique is better than everyone's. Period. God that man kicked ass.

>>2049077

True Assassin is Anonymous, given black power, Satan's Arm, and a false hope that he could ever become greater than the sum of his identity of anonymous. Little did he realize he was pissing in an ocean of piss.

Gilgamesh's biggest weakness is his biggest power--his ego. He's a rapist, an abuser, and a killer. His morals are broken, as he sees all things not equal to him as items of stock. He eats and rapes as he pleases. He kills for petty insults, and is self-destructive as he hates his own nature. And we were gyped of a Bad End where he rapes Saber. I for one cry tears of blood nightly for just that reason.

Berserker, ironically, is the most stable and sane of the entire violent cast of FSN. Even to his corruption due to Angra Maniyu, he remained true to his duty of wanting to protect his charge to his last breath. Fucking GAR.

>>2049064
Very few people are that long; the longest verified, non-modified penis was 13.5 inches long. If I had to guess based on the second Saber scene in Fate, though, I'd say about Shirou's is about six-eight inches.


...Also, did anybody else notice how if you go through the HCG for Fate, if you go just one too far it goes back around to the first one?

Pic related. Slightly unsettling thing to see after looking at his lover having sex.

>>2049077
...Rider's a Sadist, not a masochist. I have no idea where you're getting that from.

>>2049075
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>>2049084
Thats like, just your opinion man

>>2049104
She's a masochist. Read F/ha.

>>2049125
Elaborate.

>>2049111
>copypasta

>>2049084
>Berserker, ironically, is the most stable and sane of the entire violent cast of FSN.

>Madness B: All parameters are increased, but sanity is lost.

>>2049129
And still more sane then some of the others.

>>2049125
She's a sadist. Re-read the part where she hangs Shirou off a tree.

>>2049125
>Read F/HA
...Do I even need to say it?

>>2049237
That was hot.

>>2049129
Its only a B.

>>2049237
It's in the bad-end where you try to call Saber.

>>2048667
We have a winrar

>>2049312
CAN'T UNSEE

>>2049329
...How is this bad? It's like having Rider AND a younger version of Rider at the same time!

>>2049338
>Sakura
>a younger version of Rider

I don't think so, Jim.

>>2048318
Caster didn't care about the war, she only wanted to win so she could stay with her master, so in this route, I doubt she'd have enough motivation to ditch Shirou.

>>2048667

>>2049343
In terms of appearance? Pretty much, yeah. Same breasts, same hair color, both are a lot more experienced than Shirou will ever be.

You just have to ignore their personalities for a few minutes, and really, who pays attention to personality during sex scenes (unless it's Rin)?

>>2049348
Don't feel bad, Sakura! People who actually think about things like/don't mind you!

>>2048662
rider and shirou do have sex scenes. and they were AMAZING. its in ataraxia

>>2049365
Mollusks vs Penis worm. WHO WINS?

Damn it now I want to read some FSN doujins. Anyone still got the link to the TM doujin collection?

>>2049348

>>2049379
All the sex scenes are amazing in Hollow Ataraxia
See >>2048683

>>2049390
Use /rs/; I recommend Papilio Protenor (Dark Saber x Rider, futa) and Black x Gold (which can also be found on Fakku, it's Dark Saber x Gilgamesh).

>>2049390
http://tatari.110mb.com/TMDP/index.htm
and
http://www.freewebs.com/aortic/index.htm

>>2049409
Is there a single Shirou x Caster doujin anywhere?

>>2049403
Oh, Pajama Rin... how long before I will be able to read your sex scene?

>>2049409
>>2049406
Thanks

>>2049426
I want to read the scene where Shirou and Saber are doing it in the bathtub

>>2049449
>>2049426
...Can we stop talking about things I'll never get to experience? It's getting depressing...

>>2049465
at least you can look at the CGs

>>2049449
The one where Saber is compared to a fish?

>>2049465
It'll be translated, SOME DAY.

>>2049472
would you kindly give us a summary of that scene?

>>2049472
>compared to a fish
goddamn I want to read that even more

>>2049473
But that's not good enough! It never has been... For years, I'd see 'Hentai CGs' on websites, and it was never enough so I'd just move on to other parts for what I needed.

>>2049484
Shirou and Saber have sex in the bathtub. Then against the wall. The end.

...It's more enjoyable to play it than to read about it.

>>2049493
Of course it is, that's why we're waiting for it to be translated.

No Caster sex scene in FHA I'm guessing.

>>2049508
but Caster has married couple moe
just as good

>>2049521
Except it means we don't get to see her naked. So it's not as good.

>>2049611
>don't get to see her naked
but she does bite a handkerchief

>>2049628
Gee, I guess that makes up for it, uh?

>>2049639
No. No, it really doesn't.

Also, welcome to autosage.

>>2049639
yeah, that was the best caster scene
and Lancer in the waiter clothing was great

>>2049647
...You know, it's funny, but that's exactly what I was thinking during that scene. 'I know I probably shouldn't be, given the gravity of the situation, but damn... *grabs dick* '

TakaJun said something about F/HA translation recently didnt he? DIDNT HE??

>>2049647

Oh GOD! sauce?!

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