/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Would you your great grandmother?

I don't like this thread. Make the next one a Rindou thread.

Rusalka love!

>>20361905
Don't worry, everyone will get their chance. Although I was thinking of making the next thread a Silverio one, or maybe Senshinkan.

>>20361931
gangrape rusalka doujin when

>>20362009
There has to be shinza doujins in the first place.

>>20362019
when Pantheon comes out more of them will happen for sure.

>>20362144
We can only hope, not all mobages make it big.

>>20362144
>they're all yaoi
weep at the destruction that you have brought upon yourselves

>>20361835
I want to rape Reinhard

>>20362321
I wonder if Reinhard-rape poster has one of these that he hotglues.

>>20361095
>>20361102

Hirume love!

You know, isn't it kinda weird that both Mithra and Muzan still have Commandments despite being Gods? It's like if Reinhard was still using Ewigkeit. Unless there's more to this system than we know yet.

>>20362424
He would complain that the hips aren't wide enough for his tastes.

What would the craving “I want to be the strongest” do?

>>20363095
makes you strong

>>20363095
Shreiber except physical strength instead of speed

What would the craving “I want to have a good fight” do?

What would "x" craving do posts are getting pretty tiresome.

>>20363211
All posts begin to get tiring given time and a complete lack of news.

>>20363211
Would the craving "I want Spinne memes to stop" do?

>>20363221
Bet we won't get anything this month. maybe the op IF we're lucky

>>20363211
You just need to crave for those posts to stop

>>20363211
>>20363221
Just take a break from the thread, you'll be fine coming over once every couple of days. Don't worry, I'll keep the thread alive while we wait for news.

>>20363265
Nothing. Spinne cannot be stopped.

any chinese translator? i want them to translate the walküre short story and the other story about wilhelm with sakura rei? in vietnam

>>20362722
The scenario draws a direct comparison to Merc, who had to live with constant foreknowledge despite being the very god who enforced that rule. The entire system runs on monkey paw irony.

Also, Ewigkeit was tailor-made for Reinhard's kind of godhood, so he does still use it in a way.

>>20362722
Not really.

As described, Ewigkeit was a way to artificially create(transmute) 'superhumans'. Since we know the end point is Atziluth, that means it's a way to artificially create gods(ubermensch) to replace Snek. Marie is kind of an un-awakened god, so the one being Snek has to model the system is himself and he narrowed down the factor to his craving.

In other words, the legacy of Snek's Ewigkeit is -the craving-(and not the souls) and as long as that is the road you took to godhood you are using Ewigkeit.

That said, it's not that craving didn't exist prior to Snek, it's probably just not as purified and isolated as a factor or seed to godhood.

Muzan rose up using commandments from Mithra, but he also ended up creating the primal sins as response.
Satanael used the sins as a power source before removing it all so he seemingly cut the line there. However if we look at Snek and Satanael's constant pursuit of knowledge, it's likely that the key to power in his world is knowledge.

>>20363510

You SEAmonkeys are the worst.

>>20364802
And don't forget that most of all, you need anger, a shitload of it, enough to reach divinity.
The only exception would be Marie, Hirume(?) and apparently Mithra.

>>20365748
If there are three outliers out of seven, you can't really call it an exception. Really, the whole wrath thing just felt like an attempt to draw the line to Dies for me.

https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/1069906028811223040
He's laughing at us, bros.

>>20365748
>>20365756
Mithra is in a strange position where we know nothing about the circumstances of her being put on the Throne, so she can only be the start of the cycle rather than part of it.

In that sense only Marie and Hirume are really the exceptions, and Hirume was actually never brought up by Kouha.

Honestly it works because the entire history of the Throne is someone rage-kicking someone else off the Throne because they think shit sucks. Until Snek came and sat on it for so long he had to write an entire opera about him fucking off the Throne and all was well. Naraka then pushed some buttons to keep the rage going so we end up with Hajun's peak autistic rage, but you can't top that so the only way he went down was with the power of BONDS and healing instead.

>>20362181
>they're all yaoi

Are the Dies Irae novels scanned anywhere? (In Japanese)

Will Issak be playable?

>>20366095
We already got his artwork, yeah.

>>20365756
Well, they're special cases all 3 of them
Mithra is the start and part of the people who created the throne
Marie needed to be prepped by Mercurius to qualify (you could still say she used Ren's rage because that was Ren's purpose: To elevate Marie to take the thone), and Hirume's whole existence is a weird case as I understand it

>>20366095
Will the entire Gladsheim be playable?

>>20362743
How wide are Issak’s hips?

>>20366117
Very.

>>20365779
The funniest thing would be if he's actually just translating something like silverio or zero infinity.

>>20366228
I'm hurting just seeing his back and pelvis.

>>20366419
That kind of acute scoliosis is the least you could get for lifting millions of soldiers on your back for an odd 70 something straight years.
Gladsheim, it's serious business.

>>20365955
I've took a look around, but couldn't find anything. Maybe the chinks or the russias have it, but I dunno where to start looking.

I would rather reign in hell than serve in heaven. You fags can reach for the Throne all you want, but I'll always be there to inform you that no matter how strong you are, you will always be a servant.

>>20366971
Yeah, you're going to have to explain what you mean by this.

>>20366971
What?

Muzan’s throne needs more swords.

>>20366359
>Silverio
I've heard good things about it, so even though I'll be somewhat disappointed it's not Shinza/ Senshinkan, I'd gladly take it.
>zero infinity
Dunno what to expect, but looks fairly interesting.

>>20366971
Hard to do if both Heaven and Hell are part of God like everything else.
>t. God who made Hell.

All of Campus' games secretly take place during the 5th Throne, you can't change my mind.

>>20368849
The fuck is campus?

>>20368876
https://vndb.org/p5457

>>20368736
Why does everyone have a suit?

>>20369778
Gods need to stay /fa/ all the time.

>>20369873
>all the gods in the back looking slick while the front line have the type of clothes you'd expect to see at a cosplay convention
Why are the fujo foursome so much better than all the other gods?

>>20369873
I remember seeing this image when the site first got updated, then the music tuned in. It was at a first glance I knew Muzan would be my dude. HOWEVER, I was under the impression that he would be a violent vulgar punk like Wilhelm and Lyle.

>>20369873
>ren holding back marie
cute

WATAKUSHI WA SUBETE AISHITERU!

ATASHI NI MICHI O MISETEKURE!

>>20371410
>show me the path
courtesy of crunchyroll subs

I dread and shun the sense of touch. My love is the trail of carnage I leave in my wake.
I merely wish to forget; to leave it all behind and shut my cursed memories into a cage of frenzy.
I yearn to be the swiftest slaughter - a beast insatiable in its hunger.
May they all perish - Niflheim Fenriswolf

>>20368876
Jesus, you goddamn EOPs.

>>20371565
Fuck you and then off.

>>20371620
Get dabbed on, EOP.

>>20371798
>>20371565
You're not a JOP, quit lying to yourself. You haven't read KKK, Senshinkan, Silverio or anything else that's not in english.

>>20368876
I suggest you fuck off.

>>20371855
Don't project.

>>20371932
Ok, what's the deal with Dan and Shizuno?

>>20371798
JOP or EOP, I don't care. Kill yourself for using such a cancerous meme

>>20371976
Senshinkans I haven't played yet, admittedly. But you realize Masada wiki exists? If I wanted to spoil myself, I could just look it up

>>20372011
Or I can alsp ask you a screen of Senshinkan or Silverio.

>>20372011
Let's go with the usual thing, senpai.

>>20371866
Why? Someone asks a question, and you tell them to fuck off? Really?

>>20372024
Your life will be in vain, even if you sacrifice it, that's for certain.

>>20372026
It's a question that shows the problem with this general.

>>20372097
Congratulations, you've failed. Back to studying classic Japanese poetry.

>>20372101
fuck off

I WILL LEARN JAPANESE

>>20372101
Not him, but mind elaborating?

How does that coat remain attached to his shoulders?

>>20373406
It's a fragment of the blade. He isn't cut or anything. There wouldn't be a reason the coat doesn't remain attached in the first place. What's more spectacular is his hair....

>>20373470
>invisible wind always lifts his hair
>his coat doesn't fly away despite that
I bet Merc is behind this.

>>20373207
>enabling retarded shitposters

>>20373481
Oh that's what you meant. Sorry for going full retard lol. I thought you believed one of the fragment of the shattered blade was a cut in his arm/shoulder.

Or original anon I mean.

>>20373481
>in numerous other timelines, the coat flies away
>deja vu
>reinhard preemptively learns to superglue his coat to his shoulders

News never ever

>>20373406
>>20373481
>>20374737

>>20375285
This is even more disturbing than ahogeless Rusalka or fangless Wilhelm.

>>20375289
I dunno I always thought the white uniform looked cool
Also this scene is hilarious, the two of them walking side by side with a casual distance, they look like buddies.

>>20375294
>wanna go fuck Hajun's shit up?

>>20375344
famous last words

>>20373207
Should be obvious
>general about light
>people here can't play 99% of light's games
>and don't know light's moege division

>>20372167
That's wasn't an actual translation attempt, idiot, that was a jab at how worthless your existence is.

The text doesn't even have anything to do with classical Japanese poetry, you failed DJT fag. It doesn't follow any sort of meter, doesn't have 係り結び, nothing.

中臣の太祝詞言い祓え is simply this https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/大祓詞, the rest I humorously reflected in my jab at you.

What next, are you gonna bring out some fucking LN about tennis or baseball or some shit like that? I remember some faggot trying that at me years ago.

>>20372011
>Senshinkans I haven't played yet, admittedly.
Well then get to it faggot
it's some good shit, you'll like it

>>20375294
How long has Reinhard been wearing the same uniform? Has he ever washed it?

>>20367098
Gold’s throne needs more skulls.

>>20376092
>consumes thousands of magical souls daily, probably has easily billions in him
>even worse father than Mercurius
>extremely autistic and detached from humanity
>has massive cravings
I can only imagine how horrible the world would be if Big E took the Throne.

>>20375620
>That's wasn't an actual translation attempt, idiot, that was a jab at how worthless your existence is.
And do you really think I didn't get that? Although you've failed even at that.
>the rest I humorously reflected in my jab at you.
You didn't, because you haven't understood it.
>The text doesn't even have anything to do with classical Japanese poetry, you failed DJT fag.
That's why you've failed. You didn't even recognize that it's from 万葉集, which basically shows that your general knowledge of Japanese begins and ends with visual novels.
And it's not about how specific the example is. It's about the fact that if you don't really know much about Japanese, you don't have any right to come here and start screaming "EOPs, EOPs".

>>20376084
imagine the smell

>>20375593
I don't know anon. Let's just, I don't know, stigmatize the ignorants for actually being ignorants instead of teaching them a simple word which is oh so very important to this general.

They need to die, you know? They need to fuck off. They have no right to exist here if they don't even know of one little, insignificant division of a company no one outside of nipland would know.

Because, before even knowing something, everyone still knew about that something anyway. Courtesy of Snek I guess?

>>20375593
You talk about moege. And that's precisely why there's so many EOPs here. Because /vn/ is full of obnoxious moege fanboys shitposting. So, if you want to talk Dies or Pantheon, you can't do it there without putting up with retards sperging out
Blame moebuta

>it's another "shitflinging between autistic JOPs and retarded EOPs" episode

did they really reuse marie's throne art for this

Is there a proper scan for this pic?

>>20376527
>Shirou being all buddy buddy with Wilhem
>Reinhard looking like Trifa thanks to his hair not defying gravity
>Shrieber(?) swinging of those tiny ropes
>Snek Lanterns
I love this pic

>>20376513
That's old. G-yuusuke likely made all of the Throne arts well over a year ago.

N E W S
E H
W H E N
S N

>>20376583
We'll never get any news ever again anon. Abandon all hope.

>>20376646
>light just leaves us in the dark for two years until a link to the pantheon download page shows up in Masadas twitter with no fanfare or advertising

Speaking of news, the new Silverio website is finally open.
http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/trinity_cs/index.html
This might be the game they'll be focusing on in the near future, so adjust your expectations accordingly.

>>20376575
eh its really good art so i cant really complain

>>20376543
Happy dad Reinhard and Shirou and Wil being bros is definitely the best part of this image, which is why I really want a proper scan.
Also couldn't figure out who the swinging person was, Schreiber fits but they look like a kid. Also background looks like Rusalka and Spinne(?), with Bea and Kai in the distance, not sure who's between them tho

>>20376695
>Schreiber fits but they look like a kid.
And who do you think Schreiber is?

>>20376695
Looks like Eri.

>>20376527
Who's that behind the tree at the left?

>>20376810
Kinda looks like one of the goth loli's servants, as random as that may seem.

>>20376700
I mean kid as in preteens like Isaak or the extra story Kei and Rea, Schreiber looks like he's around 15 or something.

>>20375593
>>people here can't play 99% of light's games
Can't be helped though, you have to realize Dies irae getting translated and its subsequent popularity is the main reason we even have enough people for this general to exist in the first place.

>>and don't know light's moege division
While it's true that a bit of research goes a long way, you have to admit they aren't exactly relevant to this general; factor in that they haven't really released a killer title to be known for, nor have any of their games gotten translated, and it's not exactly surprising that some EOPs might not know them, even if you consider their relationship with light.

>>20376527
This is the best quality I could find, although it's still a bit blurry.

>>20377505
>ZqnChniLbXI.jpg
Where did you find it?

>>20377596
A Russian social network.

I never give up. My determination transcends everything.

>>20377690
Can your determination fix this general though.

>>20377728
We get it. You can fuck off now.

>>20377690
t.

>>20377813
I... yeah, guess I will.

>>20377813
>being rude to our based Russian anon
Not cool, bro.

>>20377950
Pls stay.

>>20376311
Imagine Eleanore fighting to get a smell

>>20377505
>Karl behind the tree

>>20378173

>>20377505
>that Machina

>>20376678
>【発売日】2019年3月28日発売予定
Should I add it to the OP?

>>20378886
I'm retarded, where is he? And Eleanore for that matter?

>>20379260
I’m pretty sure that’s Eleanore on the right peeking at Rein from behind a tree. Not sure who it is behind the tree on the left looking angry though, I’d like to think it’s an angry lolisistermomwife looking at wilhelm but the design doesn’t match up at all.

>>20379260
Machina might be the guy on the balloon (?) Marie is holding

>>20379274
>it’s an angry lolisistermomwife looking at wilhelm but the design doesn’t match up at all.
It's probably Rei Sakurai.

>>20379297
It is.

>>20379318
Can Rei do arithmetic?

>>20379567
She decided to work as a mercenary rather than go to school, so I kinda doubt it.

>>20379318
Is that Kei's mom or some shit

>>20379761
It's her aunt and the second Cain.

How did the previous Tubal Cains die?

>>20380025
zombification into decomposing

>>20379274
Isn't Eleanore in the back, walking side by side with Kai?

>>20380251
That's Beatoriche m8

>>20380277
What the fuck happened in my head. Wtf.

>>20361835
I'm finishing up the last D.I route now. I feel like I lurked here too and had too many things spoiled much because the only thing I don't understand at this point is why Rea tried to rape Shirou. That aside, I really enjoyed this VN. I wish the battle between Mercurius and Reinhard was longer, and that Ren had less screen-time, but other than that I've got no complaints. The ballroom scene at the end was great. I liked the fact that the story goes out of its way to humanise our antagonists. Mercurius' craving is by far the least autistic and most relatable.

>>20381560
>why Rea tried to rape Shirou
Don't you mean Ren? Yeah, I didn't really understand why either.

>>20381560
>>20381574
Rea a slut

>>20381574
No, I mean Shirou. Remember the epilogue scene? They're all hungover and Rea encourages the other girls to sexually assault Shirou by pouring some weird shit on his genitals.

>>20381586
Oh yeah, that was a thing. Please refer to >>20381579

>>20381579
>>20381589
Don't be rude to Rea. She's fourth best.

It has been almost 2 months since Pantheon's prologue came out and so far no word on it being ported to PC. Are they really going to cuck their main fanbase or what?

>>20381560
If Reinhard is 6'something, how tall is Rea?

>>20381642
Calm down Mercurius. You will get the cucking you desire soon.

>>20381687
155cm/5'1

>>20381560
>Mercurius' craving is by far the least autistic and most relatable.
Oh boy.

>>20381843
>Mercurius' craving
>Not /ourgod/s

>>20381857
He didn't read Kajiri you stupid pajeet.

>>20379318
reminder that Wilhelm had the hots for this woman, she even forced Bey to use his Briah during their fight in Vietnam, especially when she wasn't a proper Ewigkeit user at the time. Her and Shirou were like the only non-Ewigkeit users to be able to force Wilhelm to use his Briah. Then again, Rei was already blessed with supernatural abilities at the start except relied on the Wewelburg Longinus and died, and Shirou had his foreknowledge.

Tbh their couple rating was pretty damn high at the time. Wilhelm know his good women except Kei was shitted on compared to Beatrice and Rei being praised by him

If I study japanese for more than an hour a day every day will I be able to read KKK and understand what's going on by this time next year?

>>20381993
An hour a day would probably get you there in 5 years' time, and I'm afraid I'm not even joking. It took me 3 months of studying and practicing 4 to 6 hours a day to be able to properly understand your run-on-the-mill shonen manga and moege, though you might have better luck than me.

>>20381993
Maybe. Depends on you. Have some other visual novels you want to read as well.

Have you embraced sin and punishment yet?

>>20381993
No, unless you're a genius at learning languages.
But I don't think it matters, there's a lot of other great things that are much easier to read. I started learning japanese to read baldrs, and I think it took me roughly a year to read them at the decent speed.

>>20381560
did you play the other ending where ren goes la negro omega?

>>20381560
>that file name

Fighting game when?

>>20382815
Needs sayan hair in the last panel.

>>20382823
doesn't really fit the format, i put more effort into this

>>20382838
Heh, I love this template, a shame some people are bound to take it seriously.

>>20382853

>>20382820
Making a Shinza, hell, just a DI fighting game would be quite the tricky process.
On one hand, you'd have to seriously gimp the likes of Michael, Snek and Goat-kyo and ignore their conceptual abilities if you want the other characters to have atleast a modicum of fighting chance, and establishing an uniform supers and hypers system would be a mess with how many characters like Liza, Shirou or Spinne-sama lack degrees beyond Yetzirah.
And on the other hand, making a game true to the original power-levels would not last long as the novelty of seeing Kasumi kendo-ing Schrieber into oblivion would quickly wear off under the weight of everybody spamming the same OP characters and the game would be forgotten and left to the anals of history, much like what happened to Heritage for the Future and those fucktons of crossover fighting games from the mid-2000s.

>>20383635
>much like what happened to Heritage for the Future
You mean the game that's still played to this day? Even the goddamn HnK game is being played, it's pretty difficult to make a game no one would play unless you try.

>>20381843
>>20381857
>>20381870
I'm a lowly EOP but I do know about Hajun. Being alone for eternity would suck ass, and it's a pointless craving if you're going to become the most powerful being in existence. Mercurius' law, as I understand it, initially was to know everything, which is how he gave birth to foreknowledge, and eternal recurrence happened because he wanted to die in the arms of Marie. Wanting to know everything and wanting your life to end the way you want it to is perfectly reasonable. Much more reasonable than wanting to fight for eternity, becoming a vampire, or being loved by senpai forever.

Also Mercurius is pretty hot. He's honestly more attractive then all the girls expect maybe Kei.

>>20383909
Hajun considers himself already complete, he has no need for others. Or anything else. From his point of view, it does make sense. What he doesn't realize is that by become the Godhead, all of existence, infinitely borning souls, and humans throughout the universe would crawl on his tengu dou (his law, his body).

Mercurius already knows everything, he wanted to get rid of this feeling of foreknowledge and déjà vu with his law, but he didn't realize that what was causing it was his own Hadou. Everytime he creates a new loop in order to observe something hopefully new, it immediately gets added to his knowledge even before it happens, so all he's doing is actually adding to his foreknowledge. Then he takes a glance at Marie and see that she is outside of his juridiction. He doesn't know or can't know anything about her, so it's marvelous for him. He wanted to put her on the throne because he knew she'd make a good goddess, and he wanted to die by her hands. Everything aligned, so he started looping history in order to make her the new god.

Both of those make sense from their own point of view. But outside perspective dictate that they are in fact, foolish.

Hajun wanted to be alone but when he killed Marie, he became litteraly everything. And everything would youch you if you become the absolute because you're the source of all.

Mercurius can't realize that his own craving is the source of his own foreknowledge he wants to get rid of so much.

>>20384090
>Hajun considers himself already complete, he has no need for others.
To be specific, he believes he will only be complete when he is finally left alone. Because he had company even in his mother's womb, he doesn't really consider himself to even be born yet.

>>20383635
It worked for Melty Blood sort of.

This got really weird.

>>20384606
>sabbath
>blonde hair
Instantly thought of Ryo. I'm disappointed.

>>20384606
>she sat with her back against that of one of the men.
I don't get it

>>20384260
>Hajun’s ideal world

>>20385388
Imagine a wall
Imagine sitting down and leaning you back onto it.

I liked Rea's first ending.
I don't care much about the extended universe crap.

>>20385885
> Rea's first ending
There's more than one?

>>20385891
Its my first time in this thread.
Is this sarcasm pretending that the extended universe doesn't exist and the ending where Ren goes la bestia negra doesn't exist?

>>20385899
You said "first ending" as if there are two separate endings. I only know of one.

>>20385904
The "danced to mercurial tune" ending
why are nigs so autistic?

>>20385909
What I understood from what you said is that the choice in pic related changes the outcome of the story. That's not the case for me. I'm reading the amantes amentes version by the way.

>>20385938
Start a new game and follow this guide:
https://gareblogs.wordpress.com/2017/06/01/dies-irae-amantes-amentes-english-walkthrough/
>Note 2: Rea’s route has two endings. Go for Ending 1 first (“danced to the… etc.), then Ending 2 (…sought the truth) afterwards for the optimal reading experience. Also, make absolutely sure you follow the walkthrough very closely. Particularly in Rea’s route, you need to pick “Look for Rusalka”, “Trust Rusalka” and “Rescue Rea Himuro”, otherwise you won’t see some very important optional scenes.

>>20385954
Huh. Arigatou.

>>20385891
the other ending is shit anyway

>>20385885
Dies was already part of an extended universe because Paradise Lost is a thing. It's not something that was introduced by anything after Dies
Dies itself is extended universe for Paradise Lost

>>20386016
The first work was called Paradise Lost? That's kind of presumptuous. Is the actual Paradise Lost well known in Japan?

>>20386016
Nobody really knew Lost Paradise was connected to Dies Irae when it released. There was nothing that gave away such a thought until KKK.

>>20386037
Pretty sure Merc uses one of Satanael's spells. Of course, that could be on ending 2 and I'm mixing up the battles
Forgive me for my mistake, then

>>20381857
Excuse me sir, but we're the Church of Muzan now.

>>20386049
Merc didn't, but he does use Latin langauge for his chants from Paradise Lost. And nobody really made the connection because of how alien it sounded.

>>20386031
>Is the actual Paradise Lost well known in Japan?
Well, yeah. It's what put Masada on the map in the first place, it's like his tsukihime.
>>20386016
>>20386037
Well, I wouldn't be surprised. He apparently panned everything Shinza related when he was 14.

>>20386101
I meant the ACTUAL paradise lost as in the narrative Epic poem written by John Milton.

>>20386111
>actual
I'm tired and didn't see, my bad. Fuck if I know to be honest. I doubt it.

>>20386037
>There was nothing that gave away such a thought until KKK.
Except for you know Judas and Lilith

>>20361835
If Ren is Lotus' reincarnation, doesn't that mean Rusalka got cucked by Rea?

>>20386111
My fellow sinner, have you slayed any evildoers and uphold good for our unrivaled God today?

>>20386221
>puts muzan in a headlock

>>20386220
Well yeah, I guess so.

>>20386224
>Battalion Commander level
I wonder if it's sorely thanks to his summoning ability, or his own physical/martial prowess?

>>20386221
*Blocks your path*

>>20386244
>there are people who thank him for this

>>20386244
>Guess what? I didn't even tried.
Muzan too stronk

>>20386141
Judas looks like Shirou
what about Lilith?

>>20386300
>Judas looks like Shirou
Not just that, they're personalities are pretty much the exact same, with slight nuances in demeanour. also both are impotent so I guess Masada kept Naraka in mind
Shirou's relationship with Ellie heavily mirrors Judas' relationship with Lilith
then there was Ellie going by Ellie Strife in KKK which also raised an eyebrow from me

>>20386221
Below Tristan level

>>20362321
I want to rape Reinhard.
He makes Mein hard.
I want to stick my finger tips.
Deep into his womanly wide hips.
I want to violate the Butcher of Prague.
I will do it in the style of a dog.
I want to rape Reinhard Heyrdich
With German Sausage, Snake and Dick.

Svaha did nothing wrong.

Who will fill the remaining spaces Naraka wants?

>>20386820
Hirume and Yomi, duh. That's why our first mission will likely be stopping him from crashing the 7th Throne.

I liked DI and Rea's first ending. It gave a nice conclusion but all these autistic power lvl stuff have just a left bad taste in my mouth knowing that Reinhard is basically a fuking nobody and pretty much none of the shit in DI matters in grand scheme of things. Fuck this extended universe crap. Ruined Fate and now ruined DI. And fuck anyone will spend a dime on this mobage crap.

>>20386995
>pretty much none of the shit in DI matters in grand scheme of things
Marie's getting the Throne at the end of DI is kind of a big deal in the grand scheme of things. There's also Mercurius creating the multiverse and making craving the main path to divinity.
>Reinhard is basically a fuking nobody
He isn't. Just not the main focus of attention anymore.

>>20386995
It did ruin Fate, but you're getting ahead of yourself for DI, we've seen almost nothing.

>>20386828
Then it is revealed at the end of the 1st arc that pan-kun is one of the 5 big guy fucking with Naraka keikaku.
I can see it happening.

>>20387094
> one of the 5 big guy fucking with Naraka keikaku
Hmm, but aren't they buddies? Still, it would be pretty cool if one of them was secretly working in our favor.

>>20387104
Only thing we got was that Hajun sensed 5 higher guys beyond him, nothing else about their relationship or anything.

>>20387088
Fate was ruined because Nasu clearly stopped giving much of a fuck about his own universe. Masada, on the other hand, still cares ( by not letting other writers touch the main story, for example)

>>20386995
>Fuck this extended universe crap. Ruined Fate and now ruined DI
You've got me confused, are you talking about KKK or Pantheon as a whole? If you're talking about KKK, then I respectfully have to disagree. I unironically liked it more than DI and it only improved on everything. Also, Fate was ruined by the degeneration of Nasu as a writer. He showed signs of improvement with CCC and Mahoyo but that all went to shit. Couple in the fact that in the last 3 years he's only written 3 mobage chapters and the script for an extremely subpar anime. Also, his utter disregard for his own franchise by letting 6 different writers run a train on it.

>>20386995
>autistic power lvl stuff
Don't get baited by Muzan wankers, Rein is far from being irrelevant or weak, but he had a whole visual novel, why no let other characters shine if they're written as well as he wa?. Also Ren is probably the strongest now, bar Hajun, and it seems Marie still has a role to play, so DI and its events are far from being irrelevant
(>>20387052)
For the extented univers itself I agree these tend to ruin the original work but like other anon said, even if I haven't read it myself, people really seem to love and praise KKK as much as DI in general and we saw nothing of Pantheon yet so you shouldn't judge yet.

Sorry for being a noob but isn't Rein dead in Marie's ending? He became a priest and I assume hajun killed Marie, snake and Rein. How is he still relevant? Did he get revived in KKK? Mind you I have read nothing other than DI.

>>20387220
>Don't get baited by Muzan wankers, Rein is far from being irrelevant or weak
Really, it's kinda stupid to compare them in the first place, Muzan is a warrior, while Reinhard is more of a military commander. In fact, considering our plan seems to consist in commanding a large army of various heroes from across the Throne ages to defeat Naraka, I'd say Reinhard is going to be far more useful for our plans than Muzan.

>>20387243
Because everything that happened since the 1st Throne was all planned by Naraka the Observer for a purpose we don't know yet, yes Snek, Marie and Kemono-dono were killed by Hajun who himself was killed later.
All of them were taken by Naraka to somewhere after their death until he get 10 of them.

EvilMegaCookie, I know you lurk here, please upload Pantheon's prologue to mega or some other place, so I can add it to the OP.

>>20387288
> Naraka the Observer
Naraka is the guy who fused with the Throne, the Observers are separate entities that serve more or less as his sensories, like Judas and Shirou, but they're not actually aware of their true nature.

>>20387322
Huh, I thought it was Naraka when Sata-san described him during his conversation with Kouha, or I've misunderstood and he was talking about Naraka's sensories.

>>20387335
Nah you've got it right for most part. "The Observer" is just something of a moniker for him　and his sensories. Shirou and Judas are just sensories who unknowingly carry out his will and act as marionettes hint hint ost

>>20387371
I know but that anon said that calling Naraka "the Observer" is wrong and should only be applied to his sensories.

>>20387405
Well, Naraka himself has also been called the observer as well. Sata-san's little trist is referring to all the ones that pop up in each generation.

I wish that things would never stop.

>>20387531
I want to go back to simpler and happier times.

>>20386820
>I want to obtain my own kingdom.

>>20387531
I want my goddamn nichijou already

>>20385693
Okay but why is it giving the guy pleasure?

>>20386995
I bet you have nightmares knowing you don't matter in the grand scheme of things too, main character of your own life, sir.

>>20387971
>he wouldn’t orgasm from having rusalka’s body touching his back

>>20386995
But anon, we can't mourn for every billy-goat.

>>20387184
>You've got me confused, are you talking about KKK or Pantheon as a whole? If you're talking about KKK, then I respectfully have to disagree. I unironically liked it more than DI and it only improved on everything

most people think that DI is still better, this is why masada is still milking dies irae left and right

>Also, Fate was ruined by the degeneration of Nasu as a writer. He showed signs of improvement with CCC and Mahoyo but that all went to shit.
ebin bait, one of the most popular writer and japan loves hit writing style and many other writer, i mean masada, g-yuuske or the other light members are playing it too

>Couple in the fact that in the last 3 years he's only written 3 mobage chapters and the script for an extremely subpar anime.

and masada did nothing in the last 3 years except writing a subpar wilhlem story that is also short as fuck

also you clearly don't know what you taking about, those chapters are 20-30 hour long, he's writing the intro and epilouge of each chapter, writing events, and is still the supervisor and editor of fgo also the chapters are still better than masasda works, not only a the stories a big hit in japan with stage play and everything, masada is copying FGO too with pantheon

>Also, his utter disregard for his own franchise by letting 6 different writers run a train on it.

sorry that nasu has friends? i mean masada has guest writers for pantheon too also uro or narita > masada

>>20388171
>the absolute state of Nasu dicksuckers
At least learn to spell and not use reddit spacing.

>>20388171
>getting raided by fateniggers before pantheon is even out
how horrifying

>>20388171

>>20388171
Thing is: The guest writers for Pantheon are confirmed to be limited to special events, and other non-main story stuff.
The main canon parts of Pantheon are all by Masada.

>>20386384
Huh, this tachi-e wasn't in this scene in my version. Now I wonder if there are any other visual differences.

>>20388171
>also you clearly don't know what you taking about
He's completely right.
t. day one player.

>>20388732
he's right (2)
t. day one player and pre-FGO fate fan
also nice taste my dude

>>20388216
who is this cutie?

>>20388837
Dunno what's her name, since it has been a year since I last watched anime, but I know she's from Zombieland Saga.

>>20388837
A certain cute egg from a certain anime called Zombieland Saga.

I'm an EOP. I have read DI. But everything else in this thread is confusing to me. Please explain where all this throne stuff and heaven stuff comes from. There are no proper wiki. I understand most of the extended lore is from KKK and its guidebook but they aren't translated so I was just wondering if there is a summary somewhere preferably with pictures of the characters and all the gods and throne names and everything. I only know about snek throne and Marie gets it at the end of the rea and Marie routes.

>>20389130
>with pictures of the characters and all the gods and throne names and everything
Hmmm.

>>20389157
There was no Naraka in there. And I thought Marie, rein and Merc were dead. How come they still have thrones?

>>20389171
>Naraka
All you need to know is that he was Mithra's lover; he fused with the Throne, becoming something akin to its administrator.
>From this point onwards, there would always be a contest for the Throne. Such is the curse of this God. War would go on for eternity. Because of that first Law, there would never be peace in this universe.
To make sure of that, one man who was with that woman would eternally wander all by himself. In every universe, with every Throne, in every war, he would always have a central role, being faithful to that woman. Thus goes on the story of that impotent person.
A unique being, somehow deviated from the law of the Throne. This being we call the Observer. And when this being appears, it is a sign that the Throne era is about to change.
Therefore, I ask of you who reads this: find the Observer. Tell him that it needs to be destroyed.
That being we created, it should not exist.
Yes, they were all killed by Hajun, but Naraka revived them.

>>20389307
Shit, fucked up the greentext, but whatever.

>>20389307
So Naraka and Observer are different?

>>20389307
Don't forget that with all the retcons we got, we can't be sure what we had in KKK were 100% accurate now.

So these seven thrones are seven different heavens?
Are these heavens occurring concurrently so they occur right after each other?

>>20389516
1 Divine Throne, 7 different eras from the previous to the next.

>>20389543
So Marie's era was from after Merc gave up his spot to the time Hajun killed them all?

>>20389557
Yeah, we're currently in the 7th.

>>20389565
But how come there are 10 thrones like Rein's and Ren's who don't get to rule?

>>20389571
Because Naraka said so. That's literally it.

>>20389571
Don't trust too much the cg we got m8, there's only 7 Godhead who sat on the "true" Throne. The pic we got with Kemono-dono and Ren could just be Naraka giving it to them while waiting or Masada told G-Yuusuke it looks cool.

Why does Mithra look like Rusalka? Is it because she is the goddess of all witches?
Also what is the multiverse of Merc? Is it just the endless repetition of all the events of DI upto the point where Marie is sat on the throne? or does he create some other universe?

>>20389609
>Is it because she is the goddess of all witches?
Because they are drawn by the same artist.

>>20389609
>Also what is the multiverse of Merc? Is it just the endless repetition of all the events of DI upto the point where Marie is sat on the throne? or does he create some other universe?
He had to reset the universe countless times so the events of Dies could go as he planned. As they're happening at the same time, they are parallel.

>>20389625
When exactly does Hajun killing Rein, Marie and Merc happen? Is it right after the short story ending with little Marie? If so, did Merc and Rein even have any powers in them by then?

>>20389638
>Is it right after the short story ending with little Marie?
It should've been much, much later if the Ryuumei's side-story is anything to go by.
>If so, did Merc and Rein even have any powers in them by then?
If they didn't, they gained them back with Marie's help. Having access to the Throne memory, she can use powers of her predecessors the same way Hajun did.

>>20389638
https://pastebin.com/PxJqCdUQ
Some typos and awkward grammar here and there, but it should be serviceable.

>>20389670
oh damn thanks thats great

>>20389571
There's only one -Throne(shinza)- we know of that is the big seat of the shinza universe where all the stories happen in.

God knows what the 'seats' Naraka placed the all the revived gods on now actually -are-, but it probably has to do with whatever shit he needs ten whole gods for.

>>20389715
>God knows what the 'seats' Naraka placed the all the revived gods on now actually -are-, but it probably has to do with whatever shit he needs ten whole gods for.
I think it's a bit more simple than that. Throne equals universe, and universe equals god in Shinzaverse. So, by bringing back the gods, Naraka also brought back their universes in a way... along with some spiffy chairs that they might not even had originally.

How did Merc topple the god before him?
The white haired god I assume and for what purpose did he do it? was it just Naraka fucking with him in order to make sure the first law keeps occuring?

>>20387296
Not him, but I did download it a while ago. It's not the original upload, so the quality might be lower, but it's still something.
https://mega.nz/#!2cYGnAYS!JGBZ1m9TLv3P9KhNO15YhdOxVGfWbzDYVFzaDP8KnTQ

What does Naraka look like?

>>20389830
We just don't know.

>>20389807
>so the quality might be lower
Heh, the original was like 80gb. But thanks m8, that'll do it.

>>20389779
Mercurius is the result of the mistakes Nerose Satanael, the Morning Star/Myoujou/3rd God made:
Tampering with parallels universes to get the Throne
Periodically updating his Heaven which created bugs
Abhorrence of ignorance(Because to him, ignorance is evil) which leads to a craving for the unknown

Do all the Tenma's from Ren's legion in KKK have their memories? cause Kai, Kei, Rea and those guys were reborn and knew nothing of Marie being the goddess, so how did they swore to protect her universe and become part of Ren's legion?
Also does Ryuumei who is Eleanore remember her time as being part of Rein's legion? Is it the same person or is she resurrected?
Why did Machina become part of Ren's legion?

Sorry for being an annoying EOPigger

>>20389779
>>20389840
I forgot to say that Sata-san simply stepped down because he recognised that he wasn't so perfect after all and gave the Throne to Snek.

>>20389853
Was Snek considered a perfect being to him since he he had all the knowledge due to his craving for the unknown?

>>20389843
Not gonna comment cause I'm also an EOP, but
>Sorry for being an annoying EOPigger
It's not like we have anything else to discuss thanks to no news in more than a month, so all questions are very much welcome.

>>20389843
>Why did Machina become Ren's legion
https://pastebin.com/fnL4fg4j
The power of friendship.

>>20389865
Not necessarily, he just realized his Law was mistaken:
>Because of that nature, he never hesitated to throw away the crevices that eventually appeared. If there’s a mistake in my law — then I don’t need it. Such egoistic thing such as the sense of responsibility is unneeded here

>>20389865
No, he didn't cared much about Snek, he was just: So I was mistaken? Ok, it's your turn now.
He could have fought him and it would be a different story but he simply stepped down because fighting would be "evil" to Satanael.

>>20389843
>Do all the Tenma's from Ren's legion in KKK have their memories?
Yeah, they remember both their many lives and Marie herself.
>so how did they swore to protect her universe and become part of Ren's legion?
Because that's how they felt when they faced Hajun, and Ren stopped them from developing any further. That was basically the only way to save them from getting Metsujin Messou'd forever.
>Also does Ryuumei who is Eleanore remember her time as being part of Rein's legion? Is it the same person or is she resurrected?
Basically, it's the same soul, even if original Eleonore lived two Thrones ago.
>Why did Machina become part of Ren's legion?
See above. Note that he's one of the two people who would gladly stop Ren from clinging to Marie's world (the other one being Shirou), but since they're in the minority, they couldn't really do anything until Hajun's cells came knocking.

>>20389897
I wish I could read Moon.
Ryuumei sounds badass expected from her life as Eleanore.

>>20389916
She's basically the best character in the game, yes.
>fuck staying here forever and wallowing in self-pity, you're not gonna win like that
>guess I'll have to dive into this ocean of shit that is Hajun's world
>what the fuck these people don't even bury their dead
>guess I'll have to teach them everything

>>20389916
Believe in /our guy/.

>>20389936
Don't believe his lies.

>>20389843
The entirety of Marie's law is about reincarnating, each step allowing you to recognize your past mistakes and find the happiness you seek.

In the epilogue, things might seem completely normal and that the cast we see only have kind of deva jus about each other, but keep in mind that everything was still fresh then. Marie's world goes on to prosper for many cycles more. Long enough for Naraka to get uncomfortable and long enough for people who just want it all to burn and end appear.

Much like how Mercurius had superhuman soul-sucking members of the LDO around, Marie's world would undoubtedly give birth to superpowered reincarnators.

So all the stuff in Rea's ending where Ren goes LA BESTIA NEGRA is just nonsense right? None of it is canon is in relation to KKK and Pantheon?

>>20389945
Supposedly no, since Masada kept them seperate originally. But honestly he can find a way to merge them if he wants, especially since Pantheon is going into resolving Naraka.

Kouha's summary of the Thrones in Pantheon prologue side-story involved Mercurius saying things he would have only said on Rea's route, so honestly I think there's a good chance that Masada might pull something.

>>20389945
Well, it shouldn't be "canon" when it comes to the KKK/Pantheon continuity, but IIRC Masada still regards it as the "canon" ending to DI, at least someone posted quote like that a month or so ago.

>>20389945
Rea route could have happened and Naraka just goes NOPE and pulled a fast one and made Marie route the only relevant one.
Masada can do whatever he wants.

>>20389945
rea is the true route, KKK is a what if route

>>20390013
But which rea ending is the true ending? The one where Rea doesn't go super saiyan?

>>20390013
Or vice versa :^)

>>20390005
The problem with this is that Mercurius is dead after Rea's route, so who's going to reset everything to the 4th Throne to make Marie's route happen again?

>>20390028
You're assuming that Naraka don't have that authority because of his admin right.

>>20386384
I always found Ellie to be pretty strange to be honest. I don't think she's just a woman Shirou picked as Shirou but something or someone closer to Naraka like Shirou himself. I never had any type of fruitful information however so I could never bring it into discussion without passing for a fool but I'm glad someone else is seeing the same thing as me.

Of course, that Naraka makes his observers/sensories "impotent" implies that she is not a sensory of Shinga. So the only alternative I can think of is another observer he created.

>>20387052
And Mercurius created three Hadou Gods, kind of made up for the fact that he spent a litteral eternity to finally fuck off the throne. Marie and Reinhard are also pretty important concepts that can be useful, and as Ren showed, stopping time is kind of useful as well. So I'd say, it's fine, the DI gods still have a great potential. And Reinhard was always about "I will destroy everything", it pales to Muzan"s "I killed the universe singlehandly" for sure. But he can bring all to his level. That's actually pretty crazy when you think about it.

>>20390041
I think it's rather doubtful, otherwise he could have directly intervened when Hajun was about to fuck up the entire multiverse along with the Throne itself.

>>20390013
source : my rea fanboyism

>>20390142
When are we getting Pantheon, Masada?

>>20390134
What is this multiverse everyone talking about? Did multiverse exist before Merc? Or is each era of throne a different universe?

>>20390096
>But he can bring all to his level
Every Hadou God is capable of doing that one way or another. See Ren and Yato, and I do believe Masada said somewhere the quality of their artificial godhood is higher than Reinhard's legion. I will give credit to the scale Reinhard is capable of doing so.

>>20390134
Well, he was using Tenma Sukuna as his sensory during Tengu Dou, meddling with Ryumei and her forming the Eastern Expedition was in a way still a part of the keikaku, you can say what happened was within his expectations.
And don't forget that during the play, if what he said to the Gods are the facts, he could have wrecked Hajun by himself if needed.

>>20390156
Parallel timelines. Mercurius taking the Throne expanded it encompass all the possibilities that his time-rewinding bullshit would cause.

Supposedly, Satanael pulled some paradox involving parallel timelines to get rid of Muzan and the sins and achieve the Throne as well, but the point of it is that what ever he did only worked because such a thing was -outside- the Throne universe, hence he could use it as a dumping ground.

So it wasn't until Mercurius that the Throne universe actually handled multiple timelines/parallel worlds.

>>20390166
No, only Reinhard and Ren can do that. And Ren can do it because he is an "ahnenerbe meant to control other ahnenerbe".

>>20390142
but no one likes rea

>>20390304
But I do. I don't get the almost autistic hate for her some people had, at least back when Dies was talked about in /vn/. In fact, I like all 4 main heroines, though Kei is my favorite. .

>>20390233
So these multiple universes exist after Merc's death? If so then what do they encompass other than the KKK's timeline/universe?

>>20390204
Are you sure, I really don't see why Naraka, even being the admin or whatever, would not be affected by a god completing his law. Pretty sure I read somewhere it was mentionned he had to cope with Mercurius billions resets, and if that's ture there in no reason he would not be affected by Laws like Ren's or Hajun's.

>>20390345
There's 5 existences beyond even Hajun and I think they don't really give a shit(excepted Naraka) about what's happening in the Throne.
If nothing else, Naraka should be happy about Mercurius for making 3 others Hadou Gods during his era, less work for him to get to 10.

>>20390261
Might as well add Amaterasu to it to, because hey, Shouko Mandala.
I'm pretty sure it's in the end a function of Hadou that works for the kind of people that would value having others stand with them, either through Reinhard's domination as a supreme commander or Ren having people who desire to be part of his nichijou nakama stand by him(even if only to stand against a common enemy).

The excuses for Rein and Reinhard is nothing more than saying, 'they could because that's the kind of god existences they are', nothing stops from other Hadou Laws that could(or rather -would-) do similar from arising.

>>20390316
Hajun wiped them clean, so there's none until after KKK but the function still remains in the Throne.

>>20390345
And speaking about copping with Mercurius, this girl here has to watch all of them since the beginning, not only from Snake but from the 1st Heaven to the 6th.

>>20390422
Mystery Shinza Theater 3000 starring Kouha and otouto-kun.

>>20390411
Oh I see you're probably right.

>>20390304
Wrong. Rea is the best.

>>20391116
What is her craving anyway? I don't think it was ever mentioned in Dies.

>>20391163
I don't know if it's told actually. It's just what she was going to be used for.in DI.

>>20391116
But that's not Rindou

>>20391163
She does not really have one, which is kind of the point of her arc: she's been born and raised only to inherit Isaak's "I want to be loved" craving, even if she might be against it. So when she does let her own wishes dictate her actions, Merc's entire plan goes under and we get the Rea route.

>>20386820

>>20391185
I can agree on them being equally best.

Does Wilhem's VA change in ikabey? What about in KKK?

>>20391226
No and no.

>>20389865
There is one more perfect than him.

>>20391217
My man.

>>20391116
Beatrice is best

>>20391116
but you posted isaak

>touched the "truth of the universe"
>became one with the universe
>psychic consciousness overlaped everything in the universe
Is Ness a Hadou God?

>you will never read Dies Irae for the first time again
Snake's craving is infecting me

>>20391457
Do you want me to NTR you?

Baking.

>>20393298
>>20393298
>>20393298