/jp/ - Otaku Culture

first for "the only way to fail is to give up completely"

What did you read and watch in Japanese today?

>>20253964
gave up on denpa onna last night, going to try to get through a chapter or two of zero no tsukaima tonight.

がんばれおにいちゃん

Did you learn a new word? Understood something better? How to write a new Kanji?

what genre of hentai manga helps my reading comprehension the most

>>20253918

anyone in this thread tries to tell you anything just remember https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qdxfJIz4E

>>20254013
yeah

>>20254020
futanari

>>20254013
im about 200 hours away from my next word that im able to learn from raw anime while the rest of it is completely incomprehensible

I bought LNs from Mandarake but they smell weird.

>>20253918
netlify update when?

The test is in 2 weeks and i still get like 25% at dokkai boy. The fuck do I do?

>>20254157
zoi is cute! CUTE!!!

nihongo no mori good?? i watched a few n3 vids and they seem nice.

皆さんの日本語を勉強する理由はなんですか？ちゃんと目的がありますか？ただまだ翻訳されてないVNとかそういうのを読めるようになりたい？

今日も一日辞めるこい!

いまなにしてる？

彼氏は寝ていて、退屈

>>20254205
ゲームの英訳を永遠に待っているの間に僕はね
「もう。日本語を勉強しましょう」
と思った。それだけ

楽しいことは楽しいからやるのよ
それ以上の理由なんていらないさ
言いかえれば彼氏は寝ていて、退屈

>>20254205
ここに来る人の理由なんてエロゲしかないだろ？

>>20254201
I need to start watching them more, I'm finally good enough to understand most of it

what deck is this?

>>20254288
they've got like 10 different teachers and a few different playlists for each jlpt level so i'm not sure exactly where to start with it. i've been watching some n3 videos of theirs.

>>20254201
日本語の森はいいチャネルでござるよ。
１００％日本語で記録したビデオがあってかっこいい先生でござるよ。注意ポイント：できないユーザーはそのビデオがわかりませんでしょう。

>>20254291
i really hope it's not a core deck, but if it is then it's not one you want to do

fucking なんでも in the same list as 天涯孤独 and 鉄面皮 and 脳梗塞

and what is ドが付く doing there

>>20254332
僕はね
日本語の森のビデオが分かるの
問題は「どっちのビデオがいい」とか「どっちの先生がいい」ですよ

5歳児かあんた

>>20254338
probably a mine deck who's owner mined everything. I used to do it and mine looked similar

>>20254374
ビデオがわからなかったらNGでござる
ビデオがわかったらOKでござる

初めはケント先生のN3ビデオがいいと。ユキ先生とタケパン先生のもっとむずいビデオにジョジョと進めるよ。

>>20254419
お勧めありがとうございます
今ケント先生のビデオ見ている

wh-where's all the people
where's all the shitposts
daddy needs his rap video

If khatz was able to get fluent in 18 months in 2006 then people today should easily be able to surpass his time with all of the technology available. Japanese subs on everything, unlimited ln's, Yomi/rikai, fkn anki and decks coming out the ass, I mean half this stuff wasn't around when his first gen pupils were studying. If you're a neet on here you have no excuse not to be moderately fluent in 12 months. The only thing you should be lacking is maybe listening which you'll get over time.

動画言えよボケ
なんでも外来語でオッケーなわけじゃないぞ

>>20254457
僕は「動画とビデオには小さい違いがある」と思いながらその外来語うかつに書いた
ちなみに「漫画とコミックは同じものではないよ。小さい違いある」と思います

にほんごのもり

おもしろくはないよね

面白くはないけど

抜けるからいいよね

>>20254451
the mistake you made is thinking that any of the new resources improve your learning efficiency

>>20254508
They cut down on 'down time' at the very minimum, but I can think of several other benefits. I'll be going hard for another 7 months and see if I can get fluent in 12 months. I bet I get pretty close at least.

>>20254508
The vast availability of interesting shit on e.g. youtube is super helpful. I probably wouldn't have gotten as much exposure up to this point if I couldn't listen to seiyuu radio and CD recordings.

>>20254528
Also, the availability of people to chat with, if you find the right communities or BS with the right streamers on Youtube. Playing FF14 with legit Japanese bros on voice chat is something else.

つくだにつくる

つくだにたべたことある？

going through clover days and i cannot for the life of me understand what i'm looking at here:

施設には親のいない子供しかいなかったから

What the fuck is that predicate

>>20254736
idk what a predicate is but i can chunk that phrase out for you
施設には親のいない子供[しか][いなかった][から]

>>20254743
Ah, i didn't realise しか was seperate there, that makes perfect sense now cheers lad

>>20254736
施設には
(親のいない子供)しか
いなかったから

does this help break it down? it's saying there were no kids in the facility who weren't orphans (lit. no one was there except kids who don't have parents)

>>20254736
What do you mean? It's right there in plain Japanese.

>>20254778
kys

wow, just like us, anon!

Seeing verbs strung together still kinda confuses me

>>20254778
それは歯科？
鹿それ？

彼氏は寝ていて、退屈

このしかはしか

>>20254833
フェラで起こすのは大歓迎だと聞いたんだよ、試してみて

>>20254876
やっぱりエロ漫画を読みすぎたね

>>20254205
長すぎて読まなかった

Reminder to set your interval modifier to 150%

>>20254451
Technology doesn't make learning faster, it makes it easier

>>20254888
読まなかった、じゃなくて読めなかったんじゃないのか？

>>20254882
エロ漫画を読みすぎることは存在しないとオモいます

>>20254918
いや、そのpostを書いた後に読んだ
予想以上に読みやすかったわ

>>20254419
あんた、さむらいか？

>>20254941
お侍と言うか、わたくしのギミックはわたくしの投稿に「でござる」を付けることでござる。

>>20254933
ほーやるじゃん
よしシールあげるぞ

>>20254949
お前もがんばれよな

>>20254478
>と思いながらその外来語うかつに書いた
その文法、ちょっと変と思います

>>20254963
気を読んでｏｋ！です

>>20254955
わーい　ありがとう

>>20254968
？

>https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

>https://djtguide.neocities.org/ (legacy)

what's the difference?

>>20255043
Literally nothing. They're both shit

>>20254806
レイン a cute

Well guys. If you are thinking about going to japan for work, i cant advise it.

1. Work culture here is brutal 12 hour a day affair (not that big of a deal to me)

2. The isolation is real. Its not easy to make friends that you would consider conventionally japanese, the ones willing to meet you are alot more outgoing, more than you even are maybe.

3. Life overall requires more effort. Deal with stuff in japanese. Walk all the time. Everything is more expensive (well almost everything, relative to the amount you get). The apts leak so much air its quite cold.

Etc etc.

I can live with it I just wish i could find more people to hang out with.

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なにをしておちつけますか？

>二十五にもなって女を知らんとは…
>I never would've thought you've reached 25 yet still haven't experienced a woman...
Is this translation OK? As in grammar-wise, I don't mean to upset any over-25 year olds.
The use of とは is a bit confusing to me.

>>20254791
>>>/a/

>>20255323
>The use of とは is a bit confusing to me.
You shouldn't be translating then.

>>20255344
Thanks

Just copy/paste the line you don't understand and add a translation note begging someone to correct it if it's wrong. That's what all the big-shot translators do.

>>20255323
See this dictionary entry, とは is simply used to quote something and express surprise or emotion about it. It often trails off leaving the rest implied.

Don't bother playing translator, English and Japanese grammar is not compatible so you aren't doing yourself a favor. The best you can do to aid your comprehension is split it up and give it the old Tae Kim

If you're actually doing translation work then god help the people who read it

>>20255397
>>20255407
Oh, I'm not translating a full-on manga or anything. I just want to know what's being said in a piece of artwork I found on twitter or somewhere.

do Jap students have a list of mandatory books to read?

>>20255103
why is that? I was told this is the thread for people who want to learn Japanese

Something mildly interesting. Ever since installing a Japanese IME, every time I copy a piece of text from a PDF and put it into Word, it automatically converts 's into 痴.

What meaning does から have after the て form of a verb?
I ask because I came across the sentence (風邪が)そんなにひどくないから薬もらってから(学校に)来た
Which doesn't really sound logically right to me, it seems like there's 1 too many からs in there. "I came because I took medicine because it wasn't bad"? Is this something people say in Japanese?

>>20255530
one means 'because' and the other 'after'

>>20255566
So から after て form usually means after, as in he came after taking the medicine.
Thanks oniichan.

>>20255577
yup
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/dojg/dojgpages/basic%E3%81%8B%E3%82%892.html
you'll often come accross grammar points with different meanings depending on context or the construction of the sentence, I advise you use a grammar reference whenever you don't understand an expression (won't always help you but will most of the time)

>>20255427
you mean...classic literature?

>>20255791
not him but he probably means shit like being forced to read gatsby and stuff in school

>>20254020
netorare, it's unfortunate but you must make sacrifices to learn japanese

>>20255864
ねっ寝取られじゃない

How did 寝取る come to mean cuckolding?

>>20255998
あの子かわいい

>>20255997
i'm more concerned with the etymology of "泥のように寝る" like do japs think thieves or mud have a heavy sleep someone please tell me i need to know

泥 guy ftw

>>20256047
I'm more interested in how mud came to mean thief.

>>20255997
it comes from 寝取る which is fairly straight-forward, lie down + take/steal
it's in passive form because you're being polite and non-confrontational about the whole situation

>>20256059
it's an abbreviation of 泥棒 duh retard

how do you guys expect to learn japanese without having ゝ mined

>>20256063
Ok smart guy so how did "mud pole" come to mean thief?

>>20256063
what's his rod got to do with mud

>>20256076
>>20256074
thieves are known for being sticks in the mud owned retards

>>20255998
Stop ban evading.

>>20256081
What does it mean to be a stick in the mud?

>>20256090
ask your mom LMFAO

>>20255997
To sleep (with) and take (away).

>>20256081
nihonjin doesn't know what that means

>>20256089
stop pretending like you know anything

yoshi time to read all 400+ lessons on imabi one week at a time as prescribed

Damn I didn't even know my own language.

How do I put "alright?" or "okay?" at the end of the sentence for my own action?

For example : I'll put the luggage here, okay?

>>20256133
dude i think you just did that right now on that example sentence

>>20256124

>>20256136
I mean with japanese.

>>20256124
i never saw that before on the front page, that's good dude enjoy the next 8 years

just pause slightly and say ね

>>20256144
add よろしいですか？ at the end of the sentence but it would be pretty formal i think

>>20256133
would you use おいておこう as the verb, brethren?

>>20256144
"ここに置いておくokay?"

holy SHIT look at these

でかすぎてキモい

>>20256236
when is james the artist going to shock us by revealing that he's been subtly redrawing the tits to be bigger for every thread

How much grammar must one go through (and review?) before even attempting to read anything? I swear, just when I thought I got the essentials down I'm struck with a bunch of stuff I can't make heads or tails of (出したわい). Is Tae Kim meant to be reviewed multiple times? Kinda makes me feel stupid or have bad memory.

you dont have to go through and review any grammar

just watch about 10000 hours of english subbed anime and youll be able to manage

>>20256260
unironically true, watched over 10000 hours of anime and the only grammar i've had to look up so far was つつ

imagine thinking you have the essentials down but havent even watched 10000 hours of anime

How do you pay attention to what they're saying and pick up the grammar when you're reading the subtitles?

prolly when youre used to all the sounds and become able to write out a lot of what is being said even if you cant understand what it means yet

>>20256293
if you're thinking about it you're already doing it wrong

oh yea and also obviously

>>20256299
How do you do it then.
Because with all the anime I've watched, I didn't even think about it and I didn't pick up much grammar at all.

worth nothing i started my 10000 hours of anime when i was an early teen so i still had an epically developing brain for the win

i cant actually speak from the perspective of an adult aged person who doesnt know japanese

just try not to end up like nuke chan

>>20256155
>>20256162
What if the "alright?" and "okay?" part are rhetorical?

>>20256330
this has been addressed

What's a good font to use for anki?

>>20256246
you should be reading from the start, grammar won't stick no matter how many times you try to memorize it until you get plenty of input

The default

comic sans

>>20256246
you don't memorize grammar, you internalize it through repeated exposure to actual language
using grammar resources as a reference while reading and re-reading a grammar guide by itself after a few months are kaufmann-approved
but it's really more about consuming a lot of japanese until some things become second nature which makes others become more approachable
find a balance

>>20256293
not being a brainlet helps

>>20256351
My default looks like this after reformatting and assuming it will all return to normal with Anki web. Looks like shit on more difficult kanji.

Also my reps are this bad because I had to reupload my collection with new terms which wiped my previous days reviews?

should prolly be reading and watching a lot more anime than reading but if you just watch a lot of anime thats ok

you dont get as much sensory information from reading as you do anime so i cant imagine how bad and sad people who "read" a shit load from the start become when they dont understand really any contexts or situations because they have to construct a mental picture of it all from text they barely if at all understand

I only really like cute girl manga and anime and my Japanese has stagnated because of it but I don't want to read 2deep4u shit.

Is this a sign to look into core30k? Does it exist?

>>20256392
no just embrace what you love and enjoy it you dont have to be the greatest nihongologist to live to be one of those sickos who loves watching pretty sure

>>20256339
Oh shit, thanks. Missed that post.

>>20256382
if you aren't even a few hundred hours deep in english subbed anime it must be a shock to try to learn from reading
but if you've got that, the progress from reading seems much faster than from anime
or maybe i just permanently crippled my listening ability

>>20256110
Just look how many of your posts have been deleted in the past few days:
>>/jp/?task=search2&search_filename=キャプチャ

There is no way you haven't been banned with that quantity, and the only explanation as to how you're still posting in spite of that is that you're ban evading.

>>20256349
see these
>>20250506
>>19947777

>>20256428
cant really speak for that

i mean obviously if you read you become to whatever degree more well read

for example its impossible to appreciate and frankly enjoy a epic visual game like cross channel if youve never read before because theres a lot of things at work in the text just at the surface level

>>20256457
you are a fuckin retard with other misc brain problems

>>20256350
>>20256378
So just try to read something anyway while I'm learning the essentials one lesson at a time? Even if news articles, doujins, and the like have a bunch of grammar points I can't make heads or tails of? I'm slowly recognizing words thanks to the Core2k/k deck (their example sentences help but I've still a long ways to go) but again, running into advanced grammar points and possible slang is killing me. Never mind I can't tell if something is a word or someone's name. I don't want to even consider I'm too much of a brainlet to pull this off, is what I'm saying.

>>20256457
he's a janny.

>>20256503
most of your issues here are definitely solved by anime even if you dont want to believe it

>>20256512
I'm mainly interested in reading (h-)manga and VNs though. Assuming Japanese subtitles don't come into play, isn't that "10000 hours of anime" shtick just a meme from some ancient pic mocking those who take the lazy way out?

can we go back to matt posting

>傾げる
>傾ける
Fuck words like this. Almost same meaning, same Kanji, but the pronunciation is completely different

>>20253918
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FEM49xDmbiI
やさしいせかい

Can I learn Nihongo without watching anime, and reading LN/VN/manga?

>>20256558
the number might be a meme but the contents within are not

also yea you want the english subtitles for now

not forever just you know for 10000 hours

its gonna help you a lot with dealing with your hentai mangas and visual games guaranteed

whats elementaro guys endgame

>>20256579
no because manga isn't reading

>>20256584
A thought occured. I often go back to watching this anime every other month, but English dubbed. I remember some lines but obviously not all of them. Suppose I switch to Japanese vocals and seek out similar subtitles. Would that work as a "test" of sorts? Mulled about doing something similar with manga and CG sets, but not so time consuming. Just wanna fulfill basic comprehension within two years of studying at least a couple of hours per day.

I'd often try to mentally translate the example sentences within the Tae Kim lessons but the result upon scrolling down isn't 1:1 with what I had in my head very often but the "idea" so to speak is accurate. Passable.

>>20256622
you dont want to really translate anything and you definitely dont wanna be fuckin with dubs

the reason you want english subs is simply because they put you in the ballpark most of the time for understanding emotions and contexts and of course plenty of concrete things

the whole point is to make what youre listening to comprehensible and not to be translating it or correlating anything but the idea the subs give you to the japanese you hear

>>20256503
>Even if news articles, doujins, and the like have a bunch of grammar points I can't make heads or tails of?
every single semi-confident guess about what is being said slowly develops your intuition for what different shit means or does to a sentence, even if it's only a piece of a bigger puzzle and you can't see the big picture
which includes the one line you spend 5 minutes deciphering, but the lines you spend under a minute on are probably more valuable
having a shallow overall understanding is fine as long as you're making some connections and some guesses and you're not entirely lost
but if you're just picking out single words here and there you probably need to back down to something easier
>>20256622
drilling lines is usually something talked about in terms of improving speech, not comprehension, no opinion on it personally
mental translation should not be used for anything more than the broad strokes, because translation is not one to one, and also because the nuance is always affected even if the translation is good
even then, don't worry about trying to suppress it, but you're probably not getting much out of mental translation so i wouldn't make an activity out of it

>>20256479
>you are a fuckin retard with other misc brain problems
Are you in any position to be saying that when you spend literally your entire day making posts which appear to have been written by someone with an IQ no higher than 60 in a thread full of people who don't like you and want you to leave?

>>20256707
i want you to once again read this post >>20256110 and then continue to kiss my ass bruv

>>20256707
>which appear to have been written by someone with an IQ no higher than 60
you've attained quite a level of yikes here

>>20254451
None of that matters in terms of getting fluent more quickly. Just read more. SRS existed back then too.
>>20254897
This.

>>20254528
>seiyuu radio and CD recordings.
where?

>>20254897
technology also makes it easier to fuck up extremely and cripple yourself permanently

see posts below yours

>>20256558
>>20256579
Manga isn't reading though fufufufufu

>>20256720
What's your directory structure jamal?

>>20256739
Keep making excuses for yourself. If technology doesn't make a difference then go back to the stone age and try to learn japanese brainlet.

>>20256755
idk what this means but the one that triggers your autism the most

>>20256765
Sorry, you winbabbs call em folders.

>>20256754
hentai is

>>20256757
>Keep making excuses for yourself
What are you talking about?
>If technology doesn't make a difference
Who said that? What I said is that the improvements in technology from 2006 to 2018 will not make you learn faster. I'm assuming someone who is learning Japanese is already doing so for input they find compelling, but if that's not true then I guess I could say that the availability of more interesting content could help.

>>20256772
no i know i just dont know what that has to do with anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyhHuuNacOs

>>20256772
this is one thing linux got wrong
when someone calls it a directory i feel like i'm speaking to a brit
no hard feelings though at least it's spelled right

>>20256787
Yeah with all you images being named キャプチャ.jpg you either take those screenshots ad hoc or keep in different places.

>>20256795
I feel bad for these dudes because DJT tries to make them feel bad.

>>20256787
he's asking how you organize your dirs beside one another and within themselves

>>20256804
nobody can make you feel bad if you won't let yourself feel this way

>>20256802
i have a custom posting setup i just select the file and thats what the filename becomes i think it copies the img i select to a temp dir and renames it before uploading and then deletes after ive posted its quite epic

>>20256824
i still want to know how you organize your shit

>>20256780
You never said any of that so idk what you're imagening? Just watching content will do next to nothing. Considering the online dictionaries were shit and no hover dictionary, considering the srs tech was shit, considering the content was extremely limited and no japanese subs even, then those actually will do something. Krashner is debunked crackpot. He's right that you need lots of listening practice but he's crazy thinking you have to learn through context. I learn words all of the time through srs that I then understand in media later because I learned the definition. Even khatz who pushes Krashner theories says you have to srs and learn words while watching compelling content.

>>20256839
ひ・み・つ・

>>20256839
oh i just have a dir called DJT LOL and i put all my shit in there including djt.txt which is the file i feed into https://wheeldecide.com/ with a script that determines which rap vid im gonna post

>>20256856
i'm willing to believe that you repeatedly upload a text file to a website because that's the easiest method you know of to use rng to pick a line from it

>>20256847
>You never said any of that so idk what you're imagening?
ESL?
>Considering the online dictionaries were shit
They were good enough.
>considering the content was extremely limited and no japanese subs even
I already referenced content availability. I never said anything about learning words purely through context. Well technically words can only be learned that way but the dictionary is a good starting point.

its more the aesthetic who doesnt wanna spin the big wheel

also it shouldnt be a surprise i still havent learned how to make a website so i can finally post the djt guide that will save everyone

Hey I’m new here, learning Japanese and want to access raw manga to improve. I tried using the itazuraneko link but once I find the manga I want I’m not sure what next steps I need to take in order to actually read the bloody thing. One link just takes me to a Japanese website where it looks like I need to purchase the manga.

>>20256890
That's nice but manga isn't reading bud.

↑ btw dont ever accuse me of being this guy ↑

>Second language learners can and do use the learned system to produce output as well as to facilitate comprehension. Such questions and evidence, therefore, invalidate the central claim of the monitor hypothesis.
Just a daily reminder that Krashner was a crazy man.

but krashen was pretty level headed

hello guys, I'm 60 years old, I've been learning Japanese for 10 years, I make regular streams of me making dumb mistakes reviewing stuff with Anki, I have a Japanese wife and I live in Japan and I cannot speak Japanese for shit, it'll probably take another 20 years to get to communicative level, that's my goal for my 80th birthday
what should I do?

>>20256921
I mean I like him, just not that theory so much cause it wasn't as helpful as I was hoping

>>20256898
Literally beside the point. I have a decent level of spoken Japanese and just need good/interesting input with furigana. I speak another 6 languages and don’t need lectures on what an autist may or may not consider reading.

>>20256924
i mean you should just learn japanese and never even know who krashen is basically

but djt is terminal aids so a lot of shit unrelated to learning japanese gets posted here in an already off topic thread by default ┐(‘～` )┌

>>20256923
would this happen to be you?

https://streamable.com/o3vxb

can we go back to nuke posting

>>20256948
oh dude youre just in time

also its getting to be around xmas time we should call him the nihongo santa

except instead of presents he just fills your stocking with aids

>>20256939
true, in the end there is no secret.. except just doing it, the more fun you make it the better I guess

>>20256966
now this is the secret language teachers and textbooks dont want you to know

>>20256966
this is a pretty big secret for some reason
it's also the secret to everything else you want to do in life
がんばろう

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Vm07txX1g
>naming your baby pudding

>nothing holding her back

except her fuckin stupid name

>>20256997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Vm07txX1g#t=66

fucking millennials

>>20256997
modern bullying sure is scary

>>20256997
big turn off when a jap woman speaks with an american english accent :/

>>20257029
shes not trying to turn you on dill hole

shes a mom

>>20257034
you gotta admit its a turn off tho

>>20257046
i dont have a particular opinion on it

you should probably want someone whos bilingual like that though they can teach you a lot of things : )

>>20256643
Well good thing the anime I have in question has dual audio.

>>20256660
>every single semi-confident guess about what is being said slowly develops your intuition for what different shit means or does to a sentence, even if it's only a piece of a bigger puzzle and you can't see the big picture
Yes, even with the example sentences I find myself only understanding about half of it or getting extremely liberal from what the "answer" actually says. For example.
>久しぶりに彼の声が聞けた。
I thought it said "It's been a while since I heard his voice". But it's actually...
>I was able to hear his voice for the first time in a long time.
Loads of other examples and I'm considering taking notes and one day sharing them here for comprehension feedback.

hey djt have this cool word i found while watching anime: 言霊

>>20257166
dubs can be a great idea on very rare occasions but not for your purposes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTNpuJbzi5g

>>20256795
why is britvsjapan the only one in the ajatt community who is actually likeable?

>>20257204
i dont like his hair its still retarded

>>20257204
you've got to be joking

>>20255791
yeah this >>20255796

>よりどりみどり

how do you write "death" (english) in katakana??

is this really the best you have to offer

>>20257276
idk desu senpai

>>20257302
wow katana looks like roman and english language

>>20257272
lol I like that one

thanks to one of my little homies who mentioned this to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=10

watch without subs and tell me how comprehensible the japanese is to you

then click the cc button for english subs and tell me how many more japanese words you can now pick out of it

>>20257204
He even tweets out insane scientific research proving that spaced learning is more effective than crammed learning.

https://web.williams.edu/Psychology/Faculty/Kornell/Publications/Kornell.2009b.pdf

if someones linking that shit they are literally mad that they dont know japanese

Is there anything that-
>Isn't anime
>Has the convenience of terrace house what with the ability to switch back and forth between English and Japanese subs
>Isn't aimed at ultrabeginners
>isn't torture to watch like terrace house

>>20257401
why do you hate anime

i dont think they make a lot of media specifically for actual retards who also dont know japanese no

>>20257405
I want to hear actual Japanese people speak Japanese with each other and not read a script

>>20257414
LOL

>>20257401
>Is there something that's like that thing I don't like, but as something I like?

>>20257401
You picked the wrong 文化

>>20257401
you could try jdramas, I like a lot of them. ウルトラマン and 仮面ライダー are good, but it's basically live action anime so idk

those arent dorama those are tokusatu

Samurai Gourmet is where its at

>>20257453
it's still ドラマ, just 特撮ドラマ. If he doesn't like terrace house he prolly wont like regular dramas either

>>20257466
you cant just make things up like this

>>20257469
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E6%92%AE%E3%83%86%E3%83%AC%E3%83%93%E7%95%AA%E7%B5%84%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7
>特撮テレビ番組一覧
I see it called 特撮ドラマ pretty often

>>20257491
im not gonna let you tell me that im some kind of dorama watching fairy i wont have it

shits proper bullocks mate

>>20257536
kawaii girls, good immersion, and they usually surprise me with good stories

>>20256945
pls post more

>ござる

There's got to be at least a couple well acted Japanese live action TV shows on the same level as film and the American shit Netflix pumps out, right? Or is every single one starved for money and talent?

>>20257566
why

A children's story for your daily listening practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45uDAzQ97TU

>>20257529
lol i just looked at this again and saw the final fantasy dad show

that shit was mad win tho

>>20257604
I think they are well acted desu. An american actress could never pull off Koe Girl. They're just acting in a different style. I think japanese tv treats it's audience more respectfully by not trying to hide the fact it's terebi. You still get caught up in the story but they have more fun with things in general.

>>20257610
lol you watched that shit too, it was pretty good except the last episode was kind of unnecessary

>>20257446
Might as well desu. Thanks.

>>20257628
these are some weeb goggles if ive ever seen them

>>20257636
You got thick gaijin goggles is all. Except for a few shows like breaking bad and GoT, they're completely on our level or better usually.

>>20257628
I haven't seen that many and I don't hate the goofy (bad) acting and anime cuts, I just want to know if there are any shows more like film, which Japan has done well and is what American stuff goes for.

>I think japanese tv treats it's audience more respectfully by not trying to hide the fact it's terebi.
Going to pretend you didn't write this.

>>20257645
But even the absolute mountain of highschool trash like Riverdale or 13 reasons I killed myself doesn't bring up any serious complaints in terms of acting for me, where it feels like they pretty much just brought some dudes in off the street for the J-telenovelas I have seen. They don't have the money for it and don't care.

>>20257670
>Going to pretend you didn't write this.
Do you go to plays expecting them to act the same as they do on tv? Japan just treats tv differently than we do and I would say it's as simple as better or worse, it's cultural centric. You kind of just have to get into it. It's totally different which is cool usually too.

were respectfully trying not to be mean to you but youre not making it easy

Japanese acting is so terribad that I'm surprised anyone can think otherwise. This may be the first and only person with such an opinion I'll ever see.

being extreme the other way isnt really a great way to go about it either

ive watched lots of great things on both sides of the world but i dont prefer much in the way of 3d anymore so i cant speak for a lot of more current things

wheres my beat takeshi home boy he knows whats good

I lived in japan till I was 9 so I'm just not as bias as you. I can list 20 movies they shit on american movies and american actors.

>>20257712
did you mean to post a picture for one of them as opposed to trash ?

>Watching live drama
Wtf

Should I start reading right now, if I learned how to read kana and barely know any grammar (past some particles)? I have first part of Yotsubato reading pack and really want to scratch the itch of reading it but am afraid of being overloaded with new words and kanji. I'm going through Heisig right now and don't know if getting more kanji on board is generally okay if the learning method will be different.

>>20257732
imagine being this guy

just try to read it if you want to who cares about all that other dumb bull shit

if it turns out it really sucks for you then consider pic

>>20257732
>I'm afraid of learning too much Japanese, guys!

Does Japanese internet content suck compared to the English sphere of the internet?

American tv and american actors are just as bad as japans. In england they laugh about how stupid our tv so it just comes down to what you're used to. At least with jdramas you get high quality input. I've found plenty of shows I loved.

>>20257752
no but its slowly becoming that way now that the gaijin aids is beginning to metastasize

>>20257753
>In england they laugh about how stupid our tv
Not because of actual acting ability but because of bad writing or weird direction. There's something funky that stops East Asians from being able to act worth a damn which is one reason why Americans don't want to watch shows with too many Asian Americans.

>>20257752
like what? vtuber?

>>20257770
what the fuck is your problem dude

>>20257777
Sorry.

>>20257770
>Not because of actual acting ability
https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-british-actors-outclass-hollywood
I can link you hundreds of things shit talking our actors compared to theirs. You're just kind of clueless I guess.

Imagine learning Japanese just to watch their shitty tv shows. Only a few months until I'm able to read whatever the fuck I want. Only a few months until I'm free from you people.

>>20257791

>>20257770
They can act, there are great films and voice acting is top notch. The industry just doesn't have enough money or talent for good acting and CG in their telenovelas.

>>20257791
You are here forever.

>>20257791
永遠の新米

>>20257790
You might want to start by linking something that doesn't have to do with clothing. But still, even if it's true that the British have better actors, the discrepancy pales in comparison to the gap between Japanese and western acting.

>>20257815
>voice acting is top notch
Agreed. That's mostly what they can do.

guys

hey /djt/ what's your favorite japanese or general language learning myth kept alive by patreon celebrities
mine is that anki is carefully tuned to show you cards just before they're forgotten
second place is that your accent is determined by how much you abstain from reading in year one

>>20257857
keep posting like this and im pretty sure no one will want to post anything about any of that shit no more

truly doing kami samas work thank u

mine is u cant learn japanese from anime

What does this mean?

このため、外国人の子どもが増えて先生を多くした都道府県は、お金がたくさん必要になっています。

>Lot of money became necessary for many teachers in provinces were gaijin kodomos increased?

>>20257857
drilling misleading grammar explanations from a bad grammar guide is a good idea

>>20257872
What part of it is confusing to you?

>>20257872

Do the Japanese have as vibrant an amateur debating scene as westerners?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtXu2jI74tg

>>20257884
please keep your deviant fetishes to yourself

>>20257884
why would you link that vid instead of just literally any djt thread ever

>>20257857
Matt understands that memory is subject to all kinds of complex variables such as some things being harder to remember than others and that anki's algorithm can't perfectly predict the point at which you'll forget something. He spoke about this when comparing Anki's algorithim to some newer one used by Supermemo which attempts to take more variables into account. You're probably confusing his oversimplification of the concept to the masses with his understanding of it.

I agree with you on the reading thing though.

>>20257872
>外国人
>外
>がい
vncore said this is そと what the fuck?

>>20257901
youre confusing this thread for one that gives a shit about shit boys like him

>>20257904
He brought it up not me.

>>20257903
no youre right dude thats obviously read soto kunibito

>>20257903
Anon...

>>20257907
i know its not your fault we were just doing so good dude

so good

>>20257901
nah i just watched brit say it multiple times in the same video
but on that note admitting that brains and biology are complicated is not the same as admitting that you overestimated the depth and brilliance of the anki algorithm

>>20257931
brits a fuckin twit

next

>>20257931
My guess is that Brit is also oversimplifying it because he's speaking to an audience, and that he understands anki's algorithm is imperfect. It's not like it's relevant to anything he talks about. Only reason Matt even mentioned it is his anki optimization series.

>>20257879
>外国人の子どもが増えて先生を多くした都道府県は

This thing, I know the meaning of the words but not really sure what is trying to say

yeah you do dude come on lets go give us your mangled version of it

>>20257950
Not him but fuck off and kill yourself.

外国人の子どもが
foreigner's children
増えて先生を多くした
increasingly are frequently born
都道府県は
city prefecture road

did RTK help me figure this out? i was told that through context i should be able to figure this stuff out so i didn't use yomichan.

>>20257955
go back to the kiddie table

>>20257941
外国人の子どもが増えて先生を多くした
This part can be chopped out as its own clause, it's modifying 都道府県.
With 都道府県 the whole thing is a noun phrase that is talking about the prefectures that hired more teachers because the number of gaijin kids increased.

>>20257956

>tfw no 愛娘

>>20257962
learn to draw and make a 2d one

better than a real one who sucks dick all day and drives 40 on the 25

>>20257962
But I'm right here

>>20257961
i can't believe i forgot せんせい means teacher and that 多く means "a lot of" or "excessive" as opposed to some general concept of frequency. but that's what dictionaries are good for right? i think the anti-dict, pro-feel folks are just flat out wrong on this.

>>20257960

So it would be something like: Lot of money became necessary in provinces were a lot of teachers increased because gaijins?

>>20257979
pretty much

>>20257968
I don't live in the hood.

>>20257979
>were
Learn English before trying to learn Japanese.

>>20257982
do you think only girls in the hood suck dick and drive like shit? lol

>>20257979
they need fuckin more money because all these little kids are fuckin like you and cant speak fuckin nihongo and its really a fuckin problem oh my fuckin god

>>20257988
i bet you wish you could suck dick and drive like shit too

>>20257981
ty anon

>>20258001
only if its a girls dick

>>20258014
nah dude big gross hairy dudes like in the hentai

>>20258014
Don't be silly, girls don't have dicks.

what is the correct way to translate NIGGER?
黒人?
ネグロイド?
くろんぼ?

わたしはyoung部落man

anyway your post is fucked up and youre gonna get in trouble

>>20258077
クソ色人

,..,

>>20258131
Go Pro dude

話しのポイントを書き取った。
>Wrote down the talking points.
or
>I wrote down the main points of what was said.
They both sound okay to me but which is more accurate in the long run?

japonés

>>20258131
But is it free? And for that matter, are the likes of that and Duolingo suitable between Tae Kim grammar lessons and Anki vocab grinding?

>>20258158
the most accurate is 話しのポイントを書き取った

maybe i understand why some of you guys hate english subs so much you get autistically hung up on bullshit

>>20258158
took wrote talk's point

>>20258100

Basically shitskin right?

>>20257823
>You might want to start by linking something that doesn't have to do with clothing
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jul/05/us-rallies-to-stop-uk-taking-hollywood-by-storm
>So why aren’t US drama schools producing the talent?
I could link stuff all day on the subject. I didn't know there was people so uninformed. American actors are shit, get over yourself amerifag.

go away penn

>>20258314
How's my good boy Pennwisedom doing, anyway? Can he read a volume of manga in less than a week yet?

>>20258288
All that says is that British actors are "disproportionately" represented. You ignored the important part of the post:
>even if it's true that the British have better actors, the discrepancy pales in comparison to the gap between Japanese and western acting.
The British could comprise 40% of leading roles in high-grossing films while having a fraction of the US population, leaving the rest to Americans. That's a huge gap between Brits and Americans, but watch a typical Dorama and you'll see the disparity between Japs and Americans is so much larger that it's insurmountable. It must be a biological thing considering underrepresentation within the US as well. People seem to agree their acting is garbage.

At least they're good voice actors.

>>20258288
>>20258326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4AmLcBLZWY#t=59

guys

>>20258326
>their acting is garbage
Just not true. Akira Kurosawa's movies are known throughout cinema schools for having flawless acting. Takeshi Kitano's films shit on 99% of the acting out there. You need to watch some shit because you're talking out of your ass.

>>20258344
there he is my beat takeshi ninja thank god youre here ive been waiting for you

>>20258344
I can't tell if you genuinely think the claim is "every single last one of them is a poor actor" or if you're just pretending to be that stupid.

Now THIS is what you guys should be watching 10,000 hours of!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpb_SZ_p-Ok&feature=youtu.be

>>20258351
you're too retarded to talk to, I'm done

>>20258351
if your real argument is that some japanese acting is bad what is the corollary, no american acting is bad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkt5nT60xBA#t=249

guys

nani omae

>>20258131
this is cute

>>20258348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6siG2sWphY
hell yea

>>20258131
i know i like to ask minna genki but this is just ridiculous

>>20258405
thats a video of djt and im mr kitano

>>20258422
元気すぎるよね

kono yarrrrrrrro

Is it possible to download the html versions of the novels on CoR in a pack? A few months back I downloaded a pack of novels from there but they're PDFs and epubs and the like.

>"カルー(11月8日)"
>"カルー=118(ーをウにして08)"

>"コーザ(5月26日)"
>"コーザ=526"
wtf am I reading

>>20258131
someone who used it redpill me on that website.
How do you stack up that sweet $$$ words learned?

>read ero-comic
>suddenly after visual novels feel harder

sometimes i get that feeling but usually it turns out it was just my dick

>get to ero scene in visual novel
>everything becomes easy
>its like i know japanese
>is this the power of the erection
>realize that they're just repeating the same things over and over

What does it mean when a dictionary lists stuff like this［動サ四］?

>>20258547
verb, sa-grade, yodan

>>20258547
動詞サ行変格活用
四段活用
please consult your appendices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6hdIzYOxQI&feature=youtu.be

Lucas the polyglot!

>>20258547
動 stands for 動詞
サ means it's in the サ行
四 means it's 四段

you also see 他 or 自 in the descriptions of verbs, these stand for transitive/intransitive

so for example classical verb 寄す, its conjugations look like this:
寄さ・ない
寄し・て
寄す・から
寄せ・ば
寄せ（命令）

these are classical conjugations, modern verbs are either 一段 or 五段, so you can tell a definition is for a classical verb if it's described as 四段 or 二段

>>20258573
サ行変格活用 refers to something else, it would be indicated by 動サ変

>>20258444
Download the netlify library from the link at the top.

>>20258586
>you also see 他 or 自 in the descriptions of verbs, these stand for transitive/intransitive
wrong they stand for other and self-move like ***ly ch** said.

>>20258593
it's dolly chan 先生 you swine

im learning :)

matt made me waste like a month doing stupid bullshit like i really thought listening to nhk in my sleep was going to help im such a retard

よんだ

>>20258593
actually in this case it's specifically transitive and intransitive judging by kojien calling 歩く a 自五 verb

I keep practicing Grammar and vocabulary and keep putting off anime what is wrong with me I'm actually procrastinating anime

>>20258630
目がエロい
口がエロい
そして声が一番エロい

Should I talk to escort in Japanese if she's from Japan?

start off your day right with oatmeal (how to say this in日本語）

>>20258627
we've all been there

>>20258688
its an escort do whatever you want

>>20258688
lmao you paid her you can do whatever.

>>20258688
if you want to repulse her and make her vagina clench really hard as to make it hard for her to do her job because shes stuck vaginally and facially cringing at your horrible nihongo yes

>>20258697
今日から右にオートミールではじめます

>>20258704
I'm good looking, she'd rather find it cute.
>>20258702
>>20258700
Imagine if I paid her £100 to converse with me in nihongo for an hour lmao

>>20258718
post a picture of yourself so we can make sure you don't repulse her

>>20258718
if you were good looking you wouldnt need to pay an escort

>>20258697
日々が超いい始めしたいからオートミールを食べろ

imagine being a Japanese hooker and a guy starts speaking japanese to impress you like imagine that situation and being them and being forced to deal with that

>>20258627
I'm the worst of them all. I didn't start reading until after 3 months of RTK and listening. When I realized I was stupid and impressionable enough to fall for some nobody's advice I knew that I could never learn Japanese and decided to quit. Now this place is my hangout.

>>20258743
its fine to he is good looking so she will find it cute for sure!

奮発したんだから、ここは一丁景気良く

anyone who can explain the last line

>>20258743
seems like the good kind of hell when considering the other outcomes that await you i mean at least its a story to tell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFipk6pjLRA
せーの。。

everyone follow matt and yogapants on youtube AJATT GODS!!! language mastery is attainable!

>>20258790
i died in less than 10 seconds

now im pressing play again to mutilate my own corpse

>>20258795
trip report im now actually undead (as in alive not like a zombie) this is unexpected

>>20258790
が is the object marker that's a new one

>>20258790
https://streamable.com/jl6om

>>20258795
>>20258804
final thoughts im not watching that entire thing but im pretty sure i can confidently say it teaches you more japanese than all of the ajatt aids crews channels combined

first 10 seconds was really misleading

>>20258823
what persona game is this

美鈴
beauty, small bell, buzzer
Female given name Misato​, Misuzu​, Mirin​
>china

>>20258826
its actually because she doesnt grammar terms that it has any value at all for a 素人

>>20258853
holy shit look at those contorted bones

>>20258853
I have this 同人誌 in my favorites

>>20258790
i'm not going to lie, she's better than matt. something that should be shown to a beginner.

imagine getting utterly fuckin demolished by a butterface in a sailor moon full graphic shirt

ajatt aids crew on suicide watch

>>20258962
she just ajatted harder than ajatt boys ever could
she probably has 20000 sentence cards

>>20258853
cleaning stop

>>20258967
imagine telling yourself this instead of just accepting that 10000 hours of anime was prolly what put her in the drivers seat of her nihongo career

>>20258976
when do you sleep you fucking piece of shit?

>>20258977
im lain

>>20258977
Jamal sleeps from about 9pm to 5am pacific, according to my careful observations.
If you want to 寝首を掻く him choose your time wisely.

>>20258999
That sucks because he and I have similar sleep schedules so I always have to deal with him.

>>20258962

>>20259002
Doesnt that make you more like lovers?

>>20258976
jamal just stop doing this and just fucking kill yourself. you're never going to learn japanese, ever.

>>20259009
woah, toilet hair doing toilet face and matt doing his signature two fingers to temple gesture in one savory image

>>20258999
stop watching me sleep you fuckin weirdo

>>20259015
im also never going to unlearn japanese ever either

i still hope you learn japanese though better watch that anime

>>20259009
Lucas the polyglot and Matt the bilingual looking good!

>>20259025
more like lucas the fatshit and mattarded

>>20259024
i literally do know Japanese though, i literally read books in japanese. a level you'll never hope to achieve.

>>20259033
how are you enjoying kino