/jp/ - Otaku Culture

you used the wrong image again op

Reminder to set your Interval Modifier to 150%

heres 1/3 of yalls immersion requirement as per the op https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yijOP2RkrRQ

It looks like I’ve run out of false hope again and am back to thinking Japanese is impossible.

>>20207149
bad meme

>>20207152
music isn't listening

>>20207166
It's not a meme

(you) isnt learning japanese

I already read a chapter and watched 3 episodes

>>20207160
If you're not feeling like a total failure you're not learning. You're in a good state of mind.

>>20207213
Guess I'm never going to make it then

>>20207245
Be on a neverending quest to find out how terrible you are. One day you'll wake up and be fluent.

>>20207320
Even Nukechan?

>>20207328
nuke chans terminal and i dont think he even wants to actually learn japanese

he just likes playing in the dirt

>when you're listening to old jpop songs and you can understand most of the words now

its a shame cuz he has what he needs to do it but he wants to spend his time doing gay things instead of cool things

>>20207346
~yatta~ lol

Nook will make it. This is his renaissance. He's climbing quick. He did 15 years of setup just for this moment.

>>20207328
https://streamable.com/be017

i have hope for nuke

he puts in the hours consistently, he's bound get eventually if he keeps reading and stops doing retarded shit

>>20207361
she's lowkey trying not to laugh at him

>>20207372
she almost spat that coffee but shes perfected her poker face over the years and very japanesely 隠すed that shit

>>20207379
she's invoking years of zen meditation to make it

stop bullying nuke

you know he's going to read this later

>>20207346
how long till I get it
I listen to JPOP all the time...

i'm amazed at how little japanese he is able to comprehend despite all the shit he does, there's no way a flashcard like this would have put me into a temporary coma even just a couple months after i decided i was going to learn nijongo

https://streamable.com/o3vxb

its not even bullying no ones posting with any maliciousness whatsoever

we literally all just want him to shine

lmao those are fucking hilarious, keep em goin
also will Nuke's children ever learn Nihongo?

>>20207410
probably and then finally he will learn japanese from them

yass nuke slay

>>20207361
pls upload it to japcirclejerk

>>20207422
that sounds really fuckin gay if i find any of my links posted on reddit im deleting them

how can you sound so fucking bad, is he doing it intentionally, there's no way anyone says shit like that and think they are doing it right
is it how all Americans speak?

>>20207429
then I'm gonna upload it so you don't post them any more
also they aren't yours faggot, I downloaded them and reuploded them so they are technically mine now
t. Nuke

>>20207440
maybe when u post them on reddit u can just stay there ? lol

>>20207432
Yea idk he's leaned so slowely he's fossilised a lot of bad habbits. I think he's be understandeable in the end but with an extreme accent. He needs to worry about being able to listen if he can't even hear 科学 in that sentence hint.

>>20207467
you only know that word because of raildex why u frontin

pls post full video with that Jap tutor

>>20207471
とある科学の超電磁砲 baby! But real talk he needs to watch more anime.

>>20207467
to be fair it sounded like bitch was saying hagaku

>>20207482
negatory

>>20207371
Who is this fat fuck

you guys are retarded it was clearly 化学

>>20207478
yeah everyone does who cares if thats how you learned that word now you know it and wont ever forget it

amazing power of anime

>>20207474
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrucRokTJ-s

>>20207491
this guy is ready to sub anime

>>20207491
no way it was definitely i like the sciences so i decided to join the sciences

>>20207498
no he actually is not ironically cuz he actually read the card in the vid

Fuck I really derailed this thread by bringing up Nuke

gomen guys

>>20207516
you shouldnta done it

but i think theres some learning gonna come out of it even if it took like a 30 post derail to get there

>>20207516
its ok you can blame jamal

yea just blame me i dont care better than blaming someone who does

How do you translate 打首獄門同好会?
It's a band but it makes little sense using common knowledge and yomichan.
I came up with "association that headbutts prison gates" and as funny as it seems I don't think it's a good translation, help?

Does Japan do official youtube drama series like Korea? I was watching one yesterday with nip subs and now I found an anime one.

>>20207536
hope this helps you on your quest

男達の別れ made me cry

>>20207536
prison gate beheading club (it sounds better in japanese)

bareheadedladies

>>20207536
honestly when it comes to extremely misguided translation requests you aren't getting much better than the extremely misguided translations provided by 古き良きgoogle翻訳

just note this sounds about as epic as translating animal collective to 動物集団

no it could definitely be translated you just gotta take some liberties and have some fun with it

stop talking about nuke

who?

its like trying to translate iwrestledabearonce to japanese

>>20207705
why does google leave off gate, it's obviously gate

>>20207734
because its implied u fuckin noob

>>20207681
> (it sounds better in japanese)
the reason people learn japanese

>>20207734
google translate is powered by "don't think feel" but machines don't have real feelings so things get a little mixed up sometimes

>>20207734
click the little button in the bottom right and make google translate better

example

>>20207759
no wonder the tl for umineko was so trash

>>20207755
I just had to do that for 中華鍋.. google thought it was a chinese hotpot and not a wok

great job on improving google

Daily reminder that this is what the rest of /jp/ is like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiNBs18k5_M

daily reminder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qdxfJIz4E

>>20207847
It may appear lonely to other people, but I think they were having a lot of fun.

How is Nazeka so far, can anyone weigh in?

なぜか its shit : )

>>20207876
それだけ

Day 3

>>20207961
hell yea, get it 男子

>>20207961
Give up already.

>四
>匹
duhuhuh

Does anyone have the JALUP anki decks, I got half way through the intermediate deck on JALUP next before he hiked the price, there's no way I'm paying $150 for that.

not that difficult

>>20208056

I will legit paypal someone $10 if they can hook me up with the decks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oudgdh6tl00

if input is all that matters why does he do all this shit?

>>20207422
neck yourself you stupid fucking faggot.

>>20208082
uhh prolly the thing it says on the screen 9 seconds in

>>20208019
If you played Pokemon you'd know the difference intuitively since you literally see　匹 whenever you fire up the game or save

>>20207705
pretty much any "group" or "collective" or "band" is best served with 楽団, if only because back-translating to "x ENSEMBLE" typically results in cooler shit

i ate more of the cookie dough my mom put in the bottom drawer of the fridge. i hope she doesn't get pissed since half the container is gone, maybe more.

why dont you mak more

dont eat raw cookie dough you ding ding

why didn't any of you faggots ever mention google ime is a million times better?

>>20208178

enjoy having all your keystrokes sent to jewgle.

>>20208170
why? it tastes good

>>20208186
if youre unlucky you might find out someday

last night i learned new cards and when i hit good, rather than showing up again they did not and i ended up waiting until this morning when they showed up. Maybe it was too close to the new day? My cards due tomorrow hasn't increased so maybe all is good

>>20208196
so it's like the lottery only instead of not playing it ever i should play it all the time

>>20208225
look if u wanna eat raw cookie dough out of the container with ur bare hands thats ur prerogative mate

but even if you dont ecoli or salmonella ur mom is gonna be PISSED

should i mine imoutoposts from /djt/?

>>20208236
miners are low iqs

want proof? look up a guy called sentenceminer on twitter

>>20208240
I believe that the reason for his low IQ is biological :^)

i think that would go for all iqs

>>20208250
what about khatzumoto-dono the most accomplished japanese learner of all time

checkmate /pol/

>>20208261
Not so much. Adopted kids have had up 20 20% higher IQ's than the parents. Proper nurturing of the brain and epigenetics play a role on inteligence. Abused children are known to have like 10% lower IQ's too. Your epigenetics will try to adapt you to what it thinks you need to survive.

>>20208299
still biology

life is biology

>>20208299
das rite, race is a social construct.

>>20208313
heh guess so

i knew someone was gonna be more direct with their racism : )

>>20208296
d o g e n

>>20208342
khatz is better than dogen ez

knowing japanese has made me realize that some of my old favorite songs have bad lyrics

how do i unlearn Japanese

>>20208356
Ay, I remember syrup sandwiches and crime allowances
Finesse a nigga with some counterfeits
But now I'm countin' this
Parmesan where my accountant lives
In fact, I'm downin' this
D'USSÉ with my boo bae, tastes like Kool-Aid for the analysts
Girl, I can buy yo' ass the world with my paystub
Ooh, that pussy good, won't you sit it on my taste bloods?
I get way too petty once you let me do the extras
Pull up on your block, then break it down: we playin' Tetris
A.M. to the P.M., P.M. to the A.M., funk
Piss out your per diem, you just gotta hate 'em, funk
If I quit your BM, I still ride Mercedes, funk
If I quit this season, I still be the greatest, funk
My left stroke just went viral
Right stroke put lil' baby in a spiral
Soprano C, we like to keep it on a high note
Its levels to it, you and I know, bitch, be humble

>>20208356
you cant embrace your true end and say goodbye to your short lived seisyun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTkQHGsiSlU

>>20208356
Niggas iffy, uh, blicky got the stiffy, uh
Got the blicky, uh, drum it holds fifty, uh
Scum Gang!
Pop these niggas like a wheelie nigga, you a silly nigga
In the hood with them Billy niggas, and them Hoover niggas
You run up and they shooting niggas, we ain't hooping nigga
No KB, you a loser nigga, up that Uzi nigga
On the stoop, crills in my draws, your girl on my phone
She wanna fuck but keep her clothes on, I only want the jaw

dogg what youre pasting is not songs its jungle noises

>people obsessed with iq are dumb racists
:thinking:

>>20208299
i could link the giant compilation of research that complete destroys the environmental determinist hypothesis (addresses epigenetics and other nonsense too) but that would be off topic.

>Rushton & Jensen (2005) wrote that, in the United States, self-identified blacks and whites have been the subjects of the greatest number of studies. They stated that the black-white IQ difference is about 15 to 18 points or 1 to 1.1 standard deviations (SDs), which implies that between 11 and 16 percent of the black population have an IQ above 100 (the general population median). According to Arthur Jensen and J. Philippe Rushton the black-white IQ difference is largest on those components of IQ tests that are claimed best to represent the general intelligence factor g.[47]

>>20208467
go ahead, alluding is way more annoying

超面白いぞ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDcA9BIB_NQ

>>20208479
when the thread hits page 10 i probably will.

It's been like 2 weeks and I still keep forgetting what かと言うと means.

why can't retards from /pol/ go away

I'd prefer mattposting

>>20208484
you have to erase the /pol/ watermark first?

>>20208505
i don't like /pol/ and it's nothing to do with them. it was compiled by some quant who likes to win debates against geneticists. you'll see.

Not that I'm anywhere near my goal of finishing core10k. But I'm just wondering what comes after that. I have never seen a deck for core 20k or even 40k. Will I have to understand these from context or look them all up one by one?

>>20208529
bad bait try harder

>>20208529
ditch core. mine words that resonate with you while reading.

>>20208532
khatz is smart he said fuck all these retards i got my japanese life to live now suckers and let all the scrubs to die

>>20208529
You make your own content after that bro. Even 10k is a little deep into the study hole for sanity sake. There's only 70,000 words in japanese total. At some point you're learning stuff way unrelevant to anything.

>>20208542
how do I know if a word resonates with me

i mean do you even really need to learn weird words like 声明書 or can you just get by with the basics like kawaii and sugoi etc

>>20208550
中出し really resonates with me

>>20208529
Stop using core.

https://youtu.be/Wcbm_-LvyZU?t=498

I actually feel a little guilty now, since I've pirated. And a little scared.

the guide should really be rewritten and core erased from it, the deck is fucking useless for beginners, this meme list is better than that shit
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/important-japanese-words/

>>20208524
>likes to win debates against geneticists
so debate specialst versus scientist.. I'm seeing red flag already. You better not link sargon of Akkad.

>>20208537
I'm serious. I have never studied vocab like this with any other language. But Japanese is so foreign that I feel like it's fastest if I just learn those words one by one.

>>20208542
While this certainly is good advice, it shouldn't really matter. In the end you need to know them all and why not learn them before I encounter them somewhere and need to stop all the horses and look the word up. Btw. a list of distinct words used by some books in english:
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland: 2766
Pride and Prejudice: 6424
A Tale of Two Cities: 9877
Oliver Twist: 10419
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court: 10312

Of course you need about 20-40k to be comfy in a language.

>>20208546
that's quite a surprise. 70k is the least words of any language I have ever heard. Seems pretty easy then...

>>20208570
>I will punch you in the face for downloading a PDF of my book
fuck yeah dude! I'd kill if someone did that

>>20208559
Why, what do you guys have against core? I'm just at the beginning, but I'm really happy with the progress I'm making so far.

>>20208583
>it shouldn't really matter
no, your perspective doesn't really make any sense. the more the word resonates with you the easier it will be to remember. the process is faster and easier if you mine.

>>20208572
the deck isn't useless if you actually get through all of it, since it's still the most frequent 2k words. some dipshit just fucked up the sorting of those words. like who the fuck groups days of the week at the beginning of a vocab deck? how the fuck is that going to make content compelling for you to read? fucking retards.

>>20208570
"come on man"

its like he just found the internet for the first time

if george was smart hed understand that if his books were even good in the first place theyd only serve as a gateway to get people to pay him for other things that arent able to be pirated

but hes obviously a retard and thinks he produced great books that actually help people learn japanese and to that i say eat shit jorge

piracy is still not cool and u should pay for the real thing if u enjoyed the thing u pirated

>>20208589
You should learn through immersion not grinding anki.
You should spend as little time using anki as possible, and definitely not use premade decks.
Mine sentences or words you come across while immersing instead.

ill start paying for things when i get a job that doesnt make me poor as fuck

>>20208602
>piracy is still not cool and u should pay for the real thing if u enjoyed the thing u pirated
why should I?

>>20208606
this

I finished vncore with no regrets. Althouhg I'm probably just going to mine now. Words not sentences so much.

>>20208609
cuz if u can get ur money to the people who make the thing u enjoy they can afford to make more things for u to steal first and pay for later : )

JFZ is the ultimate dekinai textbook for language learning fashionistas and Mexican Dragon Ball Z fans

No one who's ever opened one of those books has gotten good

if someone was going to pirate something, they weren't going to buy it in the first place.

>>20208591
Ok that makes sense, but it seems like a hassle. How do I get the kanji out from a book and how do I get a voice file, so I know how it sounds. I know there are text "hookers" for games, but mostly I'm just reading print media.

>>20208605
I'm immersing quite hard atm. but about 30min - 1h of anki each day really seems to get me going and makes immersion way faster.

yea sure its the internet u can say whatever u want doesnt make it true

>>20208618
>No one who's ever opened one of those books has gotten good
*ahem*

>>20208629
bless u calvin you beautiful black boy

>>20208629
what are those books at the top that say ASSSSSS on them those are prolly the ones that taught u japanese

>>20208615
yeah, but I don't care about that

barachan is dead and now that i can actually read homoge nowhere hosts them and i don't think booth or digiket will accept my filthy gaijinbux

>>20208645
well i guess in the words of jorge trombone jr ur a "ass hat"

also i watched more of his whining about not stealing from him and hes actualy pretty legit about some things further raising my respect for him even if he cant really help anyone get good at japanese

>>20208629
>japanese hiragana and katakana for beginners
>he didn't watch risa sensei's excellent videos

>>20208657
The book is for beginners, the videos are advanced kana

>advanced kana
???????????????

wi and shit you know the advanced ones : )

>>20208661
>advanced kana
?

>>20208623
if you can't just copy/paste the kanji you can handwrite them on google translate.
yomichan has audio files for lots of words, you can also just mine from anime or other voiced media and record the audio yourself with sharex.
30m-1h of anki is good, but reviewing cards you made yourself with words or sentences you found yourself that you want to learn is a lot better than grinding a premade deck.
i know it's tempting to use a premade deck in the beginning cause it's easier, i did that for a bit too. but trust me, mining is definitely the way to go.

i need to build one of those ball pits but instead of balls fill it with flashcards and they i can truly immerse

>>20208713
papercuts

>>20208727
id just go head first into it like japanese girl falling in mud

ゐ＿ゐ；；

>僕には
is it like "in my opinion"? I didn't see that use of に in Tae Kim and his masterpiece is my compass in the world of nihonGo

its literally cuckに+は particle

>>20208756
that doesn't make sense please give an example

>>20208756
お前はゲイだ。

>>20208691
thank you for the hints. I will definitely consider this. I might try to build a deck with help from animelon. I figure until I have the notes added to anki I will already know it by heart. But I guess that's kinda the point.

>>20208752
Stacked particles work in order of whats the last particle used. So like "for me" as a topic.

its like order of operations in algebra : )

>>20208763
お前にも見えるかい

僕にはメリーがボールを投げる。

What happened to DJT? I've been gone a year and when I came back I though I was in /int/.

>>20208783
idgi sounds like youre really out of touch anyway welcome back dude did you learn nihongo

I watched Eva w/o subs. Now I'm trying to read the manga but it's painful dekinais.

>>20208783
I've been here like 5 months and I've seen it get better, it must be me rubbing off

what kind of idiot would read eva manga lol

>>20208795
Why don't you read or watch something else instead of another version of the thing you just watched?

>>20208783
The guide was linked on Reddit so a bunch of tripfags like Jamal (>>20208788 >>20208797
) came over and started shitting all over the place which made decent folk wary of wasting their time here. New people came in and saw that the thread was being shit up and thought that's the rule here so they just keep it going in an attempt to fit in.

>>20208799
ummm im not from reddit but you should prolly go back there since apparently you know what gets linked on there

>>20208798
because I didn't understand shit watching the anime w/o subs
thanks /djt/, I just did what you told me

>>20208797
what's wrong with it?

>>20208809
idk i never even looked at it

like it was just never an option in my mind as a thing

i think most people who watched eva before the towers fell know what i mean

>>20208809
It's Eva, not understanding shit is the natural response, just move on

>>20208814
I didn't understand shit because I don't understand Jap yet, not because the story is convoluted.

>>20208809
also i tell you to watch the anime with english subs for 10000 hours so why are you watching without subs and literally owning yourself instead of winning

>>20207140
Isn't it about time we dropped one of the sites from the op? Having both is redundant and they are now both without a maintainer so it should be pretty obvious which one to remove. No one benefits from a site with muh secret club cryptic links.

>>20208823
i think i speak for everyone even my haters when i say "stfu fag"

>>20208819
Then pause/rewind and look shit up. All you're learning with no subs is tone and how to listen better. Context learning is good and all but unless it's a childrens show you're going to learn 1 word per episode.

>>20208831
pausing anime is like pausing urinating

dont do it

>>20208823
We just got OP to put both back up

>>20208831
I learned no words actually. If I were to pause and rewind I'd be stuck on episode 1 and there are 26 of them. I thought listening to native Jap were supposed to light some bulbs in your brain and you'd learn it through immersion wtf?

>>20208840
>>20208822

>>20208833
No, anime is a thousand times better when you rewatch that one cool bit 7 times and pause to see what's going on in the thread.

my god i love japanese people, they brought use light novel, visual novel, manga and anime.
Feels like without them i'd have killed myself by now.
What will be their next big contribution to mankind?

>>20208846
>Feels like without them i'd have killed myself by now.
it's sad that I read lines like this and don't think they're a joke

>>20208845
if the bit is cool then thats different you just dont wanna ruin the flow of the show

I fucking hate casual Jap, I can understand everything fine when it's written in news tone.

>>20208846
sex robots with adjustable titties

>>20208840
That theory is from a Krashner meme from the 70's. He was on lsd. You still need vocab come to find out.

you actually learn japanese really well on lsd

someone post the pic from that one hentai game that is relevant here

>>20208855
It's almost like all that time you spent reading the news is a complete waste.

>>20208861
Yes, I do need vocab. I add 15 words a day, but that's still not enough to understand shit in anime. But I watch it anyway, if I were to wait until I understand enough I wouldn't need to watch anime any more...

>>20208865

>>20208878
my ninja right here

>>20208840
>I thought listening to native Jap were supposed to light some bulbs in your brain and you'd learn it through immersion wtf?
It does. Don't get discouraged and keep on watching.
In the very beginning your brain is just adjusting to the new sounds of the language, it takes a while but once you're past that stage you'll start learning a lot.
You should also look up words that you keep noticing a lot, but don't pause and look up words all the time that's a waste of time.

>>20208837
Guide & resources (start here):
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: [insert thread]

That's all it needs.

>>20208884
um fuck off, the other one has links I use all the time

>>20208884
itazuraneko is better though

I've tried watching some anime but they where mostly either way too hard for me or completely retarded shit for toddlers. I've settled for Shirokuma Cafe now and I think this is the absolute best learning resource for beginner to intermediate learners. It really seems to be made for people who want to learn the language. It's probably unbearable for native speakers.

>>20208883
OK, so I think I'm past that stage because I can pretty much pinpoint what was said sound-wise. I still don't see massive gains of knowledge... And to be honest I don't hear words that repeat a lot too frequently.

>>20208874
It's slow in the beginning but you're doing the right thing, just keep going. The better you get the faster you'll start learning.

>>20208783
/int/'s DJT is so much better than this DJT

>>20208893
oh and I forgot to mention, there are things like this out there:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/819499983

If somebody would put the time into it, this would all people need to learn Japanese pretty fast.

>>20208900
more boring =/= better

>>20208840
I actively watched literally 100-200 hours of raw Japanese without looking anything up and learned maybe 10 words. I wouldn't advise it. Listening is good but only if you read every day as well so that you can actually learn vocab.

"you guys are right"
is this the right localization of 違うはね I've just heard in my anime?

>>20208846
it's a little weird how some random east asian country is able to contribute something unique and interesting to the world.

peter griffith

>>20208915
I learn at least 10 words a day from watching raw japanese media.

>>20208926
What media? Do you look things up while doing so?

>>20208923
what would drive somebody to make such a post?

>>20208926
You probably already know quite a bit, use subtitles, look up words, or read. If you don't do those things then I wonder how you were able to learn 10 words per day from listening whereas I learned probably 1 word per 2 weeks.

>>20208837
Guide & resources (start here):
https://nihongobyjamal.neocities.org/


Previous thread: [insert thread]

That's all it needs.

>>20208929
ask yourself.
samefag.

why would you watch raw when animelon and voracious exist

>>20208927
anime, movies, dubbed american stuff, youtube videos, anything really.
>>20208933
I don't really know that much, never use subtitles, don't really read. I only pause to look things up if a sentence is +1, in which case I'll record the audio and add the sentence to my anki deck.

>>20208942
what is voracious?

>>20208952
Can you give a hint on how you record and add to anki? I really like this idea, but I think it's pretty time consuming to actually do it right.>>20208952

大丈夫本体休

>>20208952
>look things up
That explains it.

>>20208960
https://voracious.app/

>A video player for
learning languages
(esp. Japanese)

you literally dont see this aids anywhere else for any other language

>>20208981
Wow this blows my mind, I will be fluent in a matter of weeks with this. Do I need some specific subs for this, or can I use whatever I have / find?

why do people ITT randomly shit on stuff like this. you can watch a show, hear a word, and then hover your mouse over the word in a subtitle to learn its definition. you can even have the subtitles blurred/invisible until you press a hotkey. it's a really good program. why would you critique that?

>>20208998
because youre not watching anime anymore at that point and are fucking up the watching of anime

>>20208960
I use ShareX to record audio.
It's not time consuming it's really easy.

>>20208981
>electron
>react

>>20209003
rewrite it in your favorite language nerd

>>20208995

>>20209011
mpv already exists?

>>20208977
I also know quite a few words that I've never looked up.

>>20209016
weird way to spell vlc but ok

the words you know that you never looked up are the words you know best

: ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : )

>>20209017
There might be a snowball effect. It's possible I'm just completely retarded though. I made sure to pay attention too.

>>20209019
no stop before its too late baby girl

>>20208995
it won't open all video files unfortunately

it's a great way to make flashcards better than the absolute piece of shit that is subs2srs at least

とてもかわいいデす

>>20209021
I look up English words I think I know pretty often and occasionally it turns out I do not actually know the word and feel like a moron for not looking it up earlier

>>20209023
There's definitely a snowball effect.
How much raw japanese media have you watched so far?
I also felt like I didn't learn much in the beginning but it started to gradually ramp up, just keep going!

Is there a good source for japanese subs? Funi and Kana options like on animelon would be great as well.

so this.. is the power of nukige...

>>20209037
if its a common mistake thats not really a mistake because its so common and it doesnt impede communication i dont think its a problem mate

if its some esl shit im not equipped to deal with that but the important thing is youre still able to flow :D

>>20209048
that dudes got titties lol

>>20209048
heisig's keywords for those first two kanji both have to do with simple/simplicity but i don't know what the actual word is guys help

>>20209064
ill give you a hint

its not hard but・・

>>20209021
I was thinking about the word "lickety-split" today. How the fuck do I know what this word means? It's meaning is not implied from the word itself, I've never looked up this word (I don't even know if it's in a dictionary), and I certainly have never asked anyone what it means. How the fuck do I know it means "quickly"?

>>20209069
not helping dude wtf

>>20209070
this kinda thing is really important with japanese

you understand it because you intuitively understand the way it is used and the way it feels

>>20208981
なに？first I find out about google 日本語 IME today and now this. I can feel my power level rising as we speak.

>>20209070
How do you not yet realize it's because of the context in which you've seen it used you fucking tard?

>>20209064
Just learn the words lmao learning words is 簡単だよ

any recommendations on a very easy audio book I could use on commutes? I'm a complete beginner, should be something for toddlers. I tried the NHK easy japanese stuff, but I absolutely hate the structure of it and I feel like it's a complete waste of time.

>>20209070
when you know the rest of whats being said it really narrows down the possibility of what it could mean

>>20209082
lol another one about to take the wheelchair ramp up mount stupid

>>20209089
desu it doesn't matter how you get there as long as you get there

>>20209088
>>20209083
Provide a sentence in which it could have no other meaning

>>20209092
but theres no wheelchair ramp for the second mount stupid

>>20209094
Either multiple contexts narrowed down the definition of the word for you, or you have godly insight. Which one is it?

>>20209070
the weird part is when you realize you've been learning connotations for every word you've ever learned and can't vocalize the vast majority of them

>>20209094
thats not how this works the meaning becomes constrained over the course of a bunch of sentences

What does じゃのう mean?

おはようおにいちゃん

おにいちゃんは

どうしておにいちゃん

it means lickety split

>>20209106

>>20209101
This is why I think learning words through dictionary definitions is pointless after a while. Dictionary doesn't give you the FEEL of the word. Normal people say things like "yeah I got out of the car" and pompous people say "indeed I've ejected myself from the automobile" and a dictionary can't tell you that

>>20209087
Try listening to audio of anime you know. Should be just as effective.

>>20209105
"I want to feel the pleasure of being cummed inside by a cock that is a thousand years younger than me at least"

>>20209112
wow you're so insightful dude

>>20209113
drama cds were made for this and your favorite anime probably has at least one

>CTRL+F "matt"
>0 results

thoughts?

You're thinking about it the wrong way. It's not that you have a magical ability to learn words and grammar patterns... It's that people can only use the words and grammar patterns they naturally learn, and anything that cannot be learned will be eliminated from the language. It can thus be concluded that language evolution constrains itself to the faculties of the language acquisition device, and to the particular ways in which the natural language learning environment provides a setting for the language acquisition device to function.

>>20209113
>>20209124
hmmm so there are anime drama cds somewhere out there?

>>20208082
is 15 minutes long enough to actually get into anything

>CTRL+F "matt"
>1 result

Fucking hell we were doing so well too

>>20209112
そして"わたしはゲイ"とわたしが言う

>>20209135
we can still do well lets keep doing well

みんながんばろうね

>>20209125
>>20209135
since you mentioned him, what happened to this?

>>20209168
nah

this is what were gonna roll with today sorry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si6lYcvo1TQ#t=9

>>20209116
l-lewd

>>20208878
what anime is this

>>20209179
why do you like bad music?

>>20209185
Violet Evergarden

>>20209186
shits mad good vibes dude

there are too many anime and I can't decide which to watch

watch all of slayers even the new one from like 10 years ago lol guess its not new anymore : (

>>20208895
it does get a little easier, i'm still shit at listening but i can pick out more complex sentences than i used to
i'm very unsure how much of that improvement comes from the listening and how much is from reading, though

>>20209195
if violet evergarden has lsd i'm playing it next

violet evergarbage is trash and youre being "trolled"

>>20209265
i know i was hoping the good citizen who said such would tell me what the vn actually is though

>>20209271
a good citizen would let you find out for yourself

>>20208981
>using vagrant for builds instead of docker

lmao I can't fathom

**** talking about us again. Maybe he likes being shit on.
https://youtu.be/T0HNBo2tyQE?t=2m40s

>>20209274
you're right that was more satisfying

おにいちゃんおそうじするから

みたれたくないものかくして

>>20209308
he's really invested in the idea that people who don't know japanese could still have worthwhile ideas to discuss regarding the learning of japanese
poor guy

>>20209308
hes here forever

>>20209325
アンタは、あたしのへやがキンシ

>>20209308
i wonder if nuke's just lonely and wants people to talk to

>>20209308
lol he thinks all the posts arent me how cute

dude look at him try to get out of this he cant do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0HNBo2tyQE#t=475

nuke youre adorable just do the right thing and do it right

>>20208981
but how to get jp subs? anybody got the hookup on a database? If not I guess I'll stick to animelon

lmoa at that virgin that thinks getting tutored by your wife is a good idea if i were nook id print out your comment and piss on it

that guy was cute too but i thought we took care of that looking forward to when i get to that part

So if you type nu*e he'll never see it. Good to know.

>>20209308
nuke seems like a good guy, i hope he makes it. i feel like he knows on some level that this place has some helpful advice for him and shouldn't be taken too seriously. he just needs to read more

>>20209430
it seems like this time around his attitude and approach is close enough to correct that if he doesn't make it no one will
so dekinai everywhere have to band together and hope he makes it so that one day we might as well

>>20209434
i think hes still brain fucked by all the bad shit hes been doing for so long that isnt actually working but for some reason he thinks it does

might be classic definition of insanity for nuke chan well have to wait another 15 years and see

being affraid to speak japanese to your japanese wife though.. strange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipYyPQJsUPk

A new AJATTer is here. One year in and he's absolutely outpacing any DJTer.

>>20209463
why do you even know about these ppl

havent watched yet but i will and will give honest fair and unbiased opinion as i always do

give me timestamp where he presents evidence that he knows any japanese i can't be bothered to watch all of this

>>20209469
its not that difficult to type words into a search bar

>>20209469
Because I follow various MIAers on youtube and twitter so I can keep up to date with followers of the best learning method around?

>>20209475
that time would be better spent learning japanese same goes for posting here

>>20209457
i never understood the "don't teach your spouse" shit, the ~power dynamic~ seems irrelevant unless you're a bad teacher, and even if it was there it ends as soon as you talk about anything else
if you can't figure out how to help your spouse learn something you know without fighting, what a fragile relationship you're in

>>20209474
at 1743 he reads the entireity of saihate no ima in twelve seconds

>>20209481
post your current relationship status and age

>>20209484
thats gotta be bullshit hes hacking

>>20209479
We're not robots. We do other things besides learn Japanese. If people can post about Nuke I can post about the best language learning method and its followers.

>>20209463
can you curate these before you link them, this is torture

>>20209485
>post your current relationship status and age
26, never had a GF, let alone had sex

>>20209487
>We're not robots. We do other things besides learn Japanese
>praises ajatt

>>20209491
no offense but unless youve lived with your girlfriend and smelled her farts and actual shit you have no idea whats up no offense

>>20209485
late twenties and dumped, i stand by what i said though

>>20209495

>>20209495
no offense but thats my fetish no offense

>>20209501
no offense but thats gross no offendo

Usually listening to the news is intriguing but today it pretty unbearable

>>20209506
oh no what happened

>>20209506
give me a rundown of what happened today

>>20209494
Not even AJATTers spend literally all time in Japanese. Khatz didn't (played 2 hours of frisbee every day), Matt didn't, etc.

>>20209505
no offense but whats wrong with liking living with your girlfriend no offense

>>20209513
i mean yeah the real fun comes from making her smell your farts and actual shit obviously

>>20209516
yo there was a guy who killed his while because he did that dutch oven shit don't do this

>>20209481
>power dynamic
Exactly. Sounds like a coworker not a wife. I wouldn't want to be in a relationship like that. He sounds like he's friend zoned. The power exchange between sex is waaay more intense than speaking another language.

>>20209521
i mean dont do forceful weird shit just like if youre havin a nice calm moment try farting for epic win

>>20209485
>post your current relationship status and age
currently single but got a booty call girl
been married twice
32

>>20209522
that's the other thing, if a temporary power dynamic fucks up your whole day then you must have some boring sex (or none)

>>20209533
youve smelled some farts in your young adult life

>>20207140
Are there any japanese youtubers that talk about older, more obscure games? I'm not looking for 実況s, I'd like a guy that does reviews and random ramblings.
I'm looking for something like a Japanese thorhighheels. It's really hard for me to find compelling content to listen to.

Is it OK to quit vncore after 460 cards and start mining instead?

>>20209544
Isn't it mind-boggling how much better the west is at shit like this.

>>20209545
i haven't used these threads in like a few months, what the fuck is a vncore. also sure start mining, i never did any core i just started mining, you'll get the words either way.

>>20209545
Yes

>>20209463
I'mma make a djt anon vid with a mask on after a year and flex hard on these noobs. I'l ramble for 5 minutes straight in japanese, say read more, and cut. Not these 20 minute boring ass diaries.

>>20209560
What annoys me about the videos is that they really do just ramble. Why not do multiple takes and write down the important points you want to make on a sheet of paper and keep yourself on track. That'll keep the video 5-10 minutes.

>>20209560
just use this https://vocaroo.com/i/s1XiDGLYtzE6

>>20209550
Yeah :(
I don't understand japs. They're the ones who come up with these great games and manga but then you see japanese youtubers and you can't help but think the japs are dead inside or something.
I guess they're just a little bit late to this trend.

>>20209560
>>20209567
this one is only 20 or so minutes though so it's still good for ajatter standards, i've seen some posted which were over 2 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCTZQFJcjc

Why don't you appreciate all the time spent on this video? Lots of wisdom here.

>>20209567
they're just imitating the one who makes the most money

>>20209560
you gotta title it mia progress 2 months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr7ydpQDbO8
I think this guy is a djt'er

>>20209569

green arrow 58 seconds

quote not given me your aids unquote

>>20209592
unlisted 1 year of rattata update for all my patrons on patreon dot com in the ten dollar support tier or higher

"DJT method 3 second update"

i should make a patreon with the most infallible method or whatever so i can get retards to pay for my tendies so they can get in on my method when all they have to do is spend more time with the language lol

>>20209600
no trust me its what you want

>>20209544
>実況
That's the word I needed. Now to be disappointed by how much better english ones are.

>>20209597
according to him you cna learn japanese in 2 steps watch 50 anime and learn hiragana and then i guess you know japanese

i like this guy he reminds me of someone i know

>>20209597
he says he just fucked around on 2chan and watched anime, ate manga and played games. this is my idol from now on, fuck your anki sentence cards and meditating 2 hours a day

>>20209634
now you are finally on the right path

>>20209634
why not both

>>20209597
That's Jamal https://youtu.be/j9Er-kDihOE

>>20209654
because ones gay and retarded and the other one is ftw

>>20209667
problem is i wouldnt be caught dead with no dagashi kashi bull shit in my vids cuz that shits aids

>>20209545
vncore is "designed" so that the further you get in it the smarter it is to start mining and never touch a premade deck again

every word in it is extremely common though at least when you include porn

>>20209679
it didn't need to be designed to do that, that's just a fact of a growing vocabulary and the importance of mining over premade decks

>>20209671
what's wrong with daga shikashi it's in my to-watch list

>>20209688
the do-jins just wrote themselves and i couldnt enjoy the show and just constantly had to jack off

i prefer anime where things are a bit more classic and lovely

>>20209693
i question your preference, i'll get back to you when i watch it

>>20209702
i mean make no mistake im fucked in the head but the sickness i see in a lot of modern anime cant just be all in my mind

>>20209685
i mean the more you learn from premade decks the worse an idea it is to use them but if you look at core2k/6k it's full of garbage and there's a lot of really important stuff right at the end like すごい, ばか, うそ (2k) or 挟む, 狙う, 雰囲気

the quality of most frequency decks is seriously just so bad that you have to get all the way through them to make it worth the effort of using them in the first place

>>20209717
ニュースにうそを挟んでばかを納得させるだけの雰囲気づくりをねらっていくすごいマスコミ

>>20209717
I'm beginning to have this exact same sentiment. Why is something like 飛行機 so early in the deck? Same thing with WaniKani, they have some stupid words at the beginning.

>>20209736
すごいよ

>>20209751
I kind of appreciate this because those are words that it feels like I should know but am extremely unlikely to see while watching anime and reading VNs.

>>20209709
how can you admit that it's partly you and still be afraid of it, just enjoy it

>>20209751
the actual garbage is stuff like 留学生 and 黄色い

oh yeah don't forget the literal hundred word long onslaught of words like 毎朝 and 毎晩 and 今夜 and 毎月 and also learning the cardinal directions out of context of each other

>>20209751
you were introduced to 機 building off of the easier 飛行, what's the problem

>>20209772
constructive learning only works in natural learning, not memorization

>>20209775
that seems dubious but considering memorization should not take up more than 30 minutes of your day how much does it matter

>>20209775
Nah learning all the kanji with similar radicals at the same time is good

>>20209771
黄色い救急車が留学生を運んでいく

>>20209763
i do dude im always enjoying even when somethings aids i enjoy appreciating how aids it is if i can

if i cant i move on because theres so much anime in the world we are blessed

>>20209797
i think there's a middleground
working on kanji or words that look alike at the same time helps you mix them up less, but when a group of cards you're mixing up gets too big your progress on all of them drops, just like having too many leeches impacts your progress on new cards

>>20209812
i don't know if i understand your world view but i can agree that we are blessed

>>20209799
does that いく at the end combined with 運んでmake it "going to transport", as if it's on the way of doing so?

おもしろいオヤジギャグおもいついた


アーノルドシュワルツェネッガー州知事が

すわっている

>>20209797
making constructive patterns in memorization only makes memorizing things you don't understand less difficult it doesn't actually help you learn

>>20209827
it's more like
while carrying, it goes

>>20209833
this may be shocking but memorizing vocabulary cards doesn't actually help you learn

>>20209797
That's tripped me up before actually.

nani??????

>>20209848
actually it does any idiot who goes a few hundred into vncore and tries reading a vn will know that

>>20209848
You're saying someone who has done nothing in Japanese will learn it just as quickly as someone who's done nothing about memorize 10k vocabulary cards? Get the fuck out of here with this hyperbole.

>>20209848
memorizing stuff does actually make it easier to learn it later its just that most of the shit people memorize is virtually useless to them

>>20209859
no, i'm saying the learning doesn't come from the flashcards, they just enable you to consume input faster but the understanding still comes from input itself
my wording was not ideal

>>20209874
thankfully the people who made core understood that and put beautiful and well-written sentences as input to go along wit hthe vocabulary

>>20209887
anki isn't input

dude i finally made it back to finishin up nuke chans 4chan roundup segment >>20209308

i actually heard him pronounce anki right he wasnt even trying he just did it im so proud

>>20209887
>input on flashcards

>>20209894
yea its output

>>20209896
oh shit has anyone ever pronounced anki right before? he might pass matt at this rate

an-key

>>20209900
anki isn't even put, in or out, because it's not language, it's memorization

memorization is both input and output

>>20209905
excuse me it's on-key, like onstar in your car keeping you safe from language accidents

anki (暗記) is literally memorization (暗記)

in what world is a complete sentence not input? This is bizarre.

わたし(わたし) es literalmente gay (ゲイ)

>>20209921
it's just not good input

sentences arent reading paragraphs are

>>20209921
isolated fragments of language are not input as input tends to be defined in a language learning context, rather, input is focused consumption of in-context natural language
it's not far off from the truth to just say >>20209926

>>20209926
so that's why manga isn't reading

also i actually take it back he did still say onky it was just less awkward stress on the on part but he still said on baka i really wanted to believe

anki is literally pronounced うんち

oinky if youre an aussie lol

look at these oinkers