/jp/ - Otaku Culture

https://streamable.com/h3g6y

Just downloaded Deep One for my first VN!

Is rosetta stone a meme
I was looking to get something to go along with anki and using dictionary while jacking off to VNs/Hgames

>>20148297
For vocab it's probably not gonna hurt since it's throwing pictures at you.

However this is all stuff you could easily do with Anki too

>>20148138
you forgot actual Novels, some of them are even easier to read than LN. for example Murakami books are ezpz.

>>20148297
if you could get it for free, you're paying too much for the electricity it would take to download it. rosetta stone is what people that haven't learned languages think is all they need to learn it. somewhat ok for spanish, complete garbage for japanese.

>>20148297
>using dictionary while jacking off to VNs/Hgames
you fool you already have the winning strategy in your hand and you're thinking of using rosetta stone, no no, bad

>>20148335
>play vidya with some exmillitary boomerr who was stationed in japan, married jap wife, the works
>he's fluent in japanese
>he hears I know a little and he starts testing me
>say good morning, please, good evening, colors, etc.
>okay that's pretty good. now say something. just anything
>panic
>uhhh　“お兄ちゃん の精液は美味しいですよ！”
oof.

I mean he laughed but I don't think he's seen me the same way since.

>>20148359
this totally happened

>>20148364
Yes.

>>20148297
Rosetta Stone for Japanese has a really bad reputation.

>>20148326
novels aren't reading though

Reminder to set your Interval Modifier in Anki to 150%

>>20148326
Are you surprised that someone who considers playing Zelda quality study time has reached an age where he has even read a novel in English yet?

>>20148138
Worst OP I've seen in a good while.

>>20148390
Not 90% or 100%?

>>20148297
wuhtawshi wha [YOUR NAME] dehsoo!
repeat!

>>20148266
why would you choose chuuni shit as your first vn?

literally this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHd3xfDzTg8

https://youtu.be/1vRWLljtJCw?t=570

Daily karaoke with Nuke-chan

Does the core 6K cover everything in the JLPT N3 or does the N3 have some obscure words?

で？

こんき

もりあがってる

アニメないかんじ

からぶってる？

http://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/miscellaneous/avoid-this-mistake/
We're witnessing history lads

>>20148749
Seems like perfectly reasonable advice to me

>>20148691
Probably covers everything and more

>>20148749
He's probably not meditating enough is all. That, or hasn't properly done his RTK mass-immersion.

>>20148749
>spending about 3 hours a day on Anki
so this is the power of ajatt

Is anybody else having problems with mouse-over dictionary ff add-ons? I've had 3 die on me one after another. Rikai-chan, yomi-chan and now rikairebuilt. They worked initially and I installed rebuilt last after deactivating the first two but after a few days it doesn't work anymore.

おにいちゃんたいへん

barleyがよめない

バレー？

>>20148818
Is your browser up to date? Are the add-ons up to date? In what way are they "dying"?

>>20148838
BAR lee

バー↓リー
（バル↓リーっぽい）

>>20148841
Yes and yes. They worked initially but then one day no matter how many times you mouse-over Japanese text or press keyboard commands or deactivate and activate it does nothing.

volleyballがバレー

balletがバレエ

barleyはバァレーだって

ひどくない？

>>20148868
either you have another addon interfering with them or you need to habitually firefox more often (once in a blue moon it can kill the process running an addon's background script)

valleyはバレイかな

もうわけがわからないよ

>>20148872
habitually restart*

>>20148873
英語の文字は悪魔だよ
第一は発音
和製英語の発音じゃない
生英語の発音だよ
生英語は分かるようになればすべてが分かる

>>20148890
valleyなら「ヴァーリー・ヴャーリー・ヴェーリー」とか近くけどほんの発音はぜええんたいに異なる
この言葉は日本語的に発音させたらすっっっっごいキモい

>>20148890
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:En-us-valley.ogg

>>20148891
あたしえいごのはつおんって

starとmarcoくらいしかきかないよ

まわりにえいごネイティブいないから

はつおんはstarにたよってる

>>20148901
英語のyoutubeにいろんな聴けるものは見つけられるだろう、どう？ジャンルや作家わかんないなら手伝ってあげる

>>20148911
あたしえいごしゃべったり

かいたりしないよ

>>20148917
そう、喋ったり書いたり必要ないね
発音感覚を掴むには聞くだけでいいわ
できたら他の全ては楽になるでしょう（特に綴り）

stop posting in japanese

>>20148936
メイクミー

>>20148935
ただしいつづりは

スペルチェッカーあるし

ただしいぶんぽうは

オンライン校正があるし

えいごはべんりだとおもう

>>20148935
>>20148950
あと

えいごのはつおんって

せかいかくちで

ちがうよね

Will reading non-native Japanese cripple my learning ability permanently?

how would you say "off topic " ?
as in " i'm going to say something off topic"

is ずればなし　ok?
or これからちょっと話外れするでけど　?

>>20148973
*外れる

>>20148973
はなしが（よこみちに）それる

とか

はなしがだっせんする

とかよくつかうよ

>>20148986
but i'm not using a verb here
i'm trying to use a noun + suru
ちょっと　それた話をするんですけど

>>20148995
>ちょっと話が　それる/それちゃう　んだけど

こっちかな

>>20148962
It certainly won't help. Don't waste your time reading the Japanese in these threads, that is for sure.

>>20148950
綴りの難しいところは、たしかにミスじゃない
頭に正しい発音を浮かべることだ
文法の難しいところは、たしかに文法論（？）じゃない
語法だ（オンライン校正はこれにも便利ですけど）
>>20148959
そうです
けど、世界中の英語使いは一つの類似がある
母音を変えるアクセント、それから無限の母音は作られた
以下トピずれでごめん
「レイ」か「レー」か「リー」か「リャー」か「ラー」かの問題はそこにある
日本語なら、短音か長音か、本当に声に出せるか小声か、らしい
母音自身は種を変えること少しだけ
英語の歴史は騒々しさのせいで、母音システムすっっっっっっっっごく変になった、アクセントとの繋がり（？）とか現れた、決まった綴りは悪になった。
一つだけか、全てか、どちらでも英語方言は文字に母音の本体が現れない…
それにしても、一つだけの方言の発音を覚えるなら、当然のようにすべてが分かるようになる、綴りも分かれる（？）ようになる（アクセントのせいなんだから）
>>20148962
if you read my posts they're gonna send you back to chapter 1 of tae kim

アクセントとの繋がり（？）はこんなもの
I will record your actions. 動詞のrecord ≒ リ↑コード↓・ラ↑コード↓ (ruh↑kord・ree↑kord)
This record is all messed up. 名詞のrecord ≒ レ↓カド (reh↓krd)

>>20149070
>リ↑コード↓・ラ↑コード↓ (ruh↑kord・ree↑kord)
リ↑コード↓・ラ↑コード↓ (ree↑kord・ruh↑kord)
（取り替え）

アクセントのばしょがあってれば

ちょっと

へんでも

だいたいつうじるかんじがあるんだよね

えいごって

Why are all the mega links in the cornucopia broken?

>>20149101
you're supposed to manually edit the url to add back in the mega.nz part

it's to reduce risks from automatic mega.nz link scrapers/searchers

>>20149104
Ooooh. Clever.

LOLI forum :


bitly.su/fmHdYe


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efbiliobtgnjyurt

>>20148633
pretty gud

What's the best reader for desktop? I tried Kindle and it gets annoying when I try to copy a word and the paste result comes out like a citation
Calibre?

is he right?

>>20149414
djt has been hard pro immersion since before matt's youtube had anything worth watching

if he believes he made djt more pro immersion he's delusional, the people that did are "cartel" members

>>20149414
若いっていいな爆笑

>>20149434
prove it

>>20149446
archives.

>>20149465
so you can't prove it huh

>>20149472
looks like you're new here

>>20149477
>djt has been hard pro immersion since before matt
I didn't make this bogus claim btw
just prove it

>>20149492
>resorting to manipulated quotes
lol holy shit
come the fuck on man

Djt used to shill lingosteve videos all the time, back when it was still on /a/.

No idea about this matt guy and where he fits in the timeline.

Muh i wish faggots didn't try to expose our secret club ;/.

>>20149414
No, he is a fucking idiot.
Input theory is older than him and has been advocated by everyone and their mother as the most efficient form of language learning method for decades. This man has a complex developed by a bunch of mouth breathing third world cock suckers with an average IQ of 85 who can't learn Japanese to enjoy their shit shounen due to their complete mental decrepitude. Now Matt thinks he isn't a below average looking balding college kid that learned one(!) language over several years locked in his room, but some kind of language learning genius we should all beg and pay to get advice from. Anyone who brings this loser up isn't worth the time to be dealt with.

>>20149492
How did you get that from "before matt's youtube had anything worth watching"?

Dumb Mattdrone.

DJT has literally never been in favor of using long shared decks. The people doing that were a stupid minority and many of them came from koohii.

ive been telling the noobs that flashcards are gay before djt was punted to this board (there used to be a rampant flashcard problem) but i havent strengthened my mind through daily 禊ぎ in a japanese high school toilet like matt has as to be so woke to the fact that im the one who created the idea of learning a language through natural exposure ┐(‘～` )┌

put your trip on jamal

you guys broke it : )

his trip is literally banned

>>20149519
djt just doesn't want to accept that matt made immersion popular on this board

What does it matter if Matt is right? None of you will learn Japanese.

>>20149543
you should just properly say that matt made it popular to you "new fags" lol

>>20149543
The only thing I've seen matt make a thing on this board is mattposting

>>20149543
djt originated on another board
behold, newfag, and repent:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/124665634/#124697535

>>20149548
just prove it that you 'oldfags' always favored immersion bro

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/122362799/#122368014

>quoting your own posts from 3 years ago in djt

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/114267648/#114288999

I could go on for days

remember that /a/ was a huge board and djt had several threads a day. one person loving core does not mean it that djt loved core

I think I have a problem with my Anki deck, I've been studying with the Core 2k/6k for a month now and my reviews seem stuck to 88 card per day, it seems too few, I read you're supposed to have around 10x the number of new card per day (20 in my case). I already set the maximum review per day to 9999

>>20149565
i dont really care that matt dominates your heart and soul i think thats actually cute and dare i say otaku of you

>>20149574
>running from the truth
matt is irrelevant outside of his patrons. don't belittle people.

>>20149577
/a/ and /jp/ are separate boards. why are you bringing them up

to show his a(ids)ge

are you fucking serious how new to 4chan are you

>>20149598
Your trolling was amusing at first, but this is just pathetic.

Do you even study Japanese?

>>20149583
you don't care because you can't prove it. it's simple as that. matt's got more material to put you fuckers in place.

Is the core deck useless? Should I just go straight to mining?

>>20149611
yea for example https://streamable.com/l6h0h and the crying vid

ironic shitposting is just shitposting

can we get a link on the crying vid

>>20149614
display of japanese skill and even made the girl laugh. more than you could ever achieve.

Posting mattcuck should be bannable offense.

>>20149580
Look at your forecast stat and search how many cards you have that (is:due)

>>20149414
>it seems pretty likely that I had a part to play in the trend towards immersion based learning.
And this right here is why people shit on you, Matt. Your head couldn't possibly be any further up your own ass.

>>20149629
display of what japanese skill

could you perhaps explain to the class a bit about matts japanese skill just for the uninitiated

>>20149580
There's probably nothing wrong though. 1 month isn't actually very long.

>>20149612
You should probably do a bit of VNcore so your "reading" isn't solely lookup slogfest.

or for a refreshing change of pace you could watch approximately 10000 hours of english subbed anime

>>20149629
Way to rub it in. I can't even make a girl laugh in my native language nor with English.

>>20149612
I find it helps to use anki for words you often see during reading. Never done core though, so don't know if it is useless or not.

>>20149414
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
IS THIS NIGGER SERIOUS
WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS

>>20149655
stop false flagging

>>20149654
im sure you can make a girl and the rest of the room laugh too if you did your best anime impression for them (they dont even watch anime cuz that stuffs for kids/losers..)

>>20149666
this guy knows what's up believe it

>>20149642
here ill do it for you https://streamable.com/qemt9

>djt recommends 10000 hours of anime
>djt also thinks anime is for kids
shit board

no i love anime i was saying that from the perspective of the normies you would be doing your anime impression for

>>20149612
>Is the core deck useless?
No
>Should I just go straight to mining?
But you can also just do that.
You'll be getting new words either way. The pro for a premade deck might be that it contains a sentence with English translation so you actually have understandable context. With a bit of work you might also understand the text you're mining. So in those terms they're not that different at all. It's best that you get to reading as early as you can though, whatever way you start with.

>>20149446
This is taken from the original guide made way back when in the days when these threads were still on /a/:
>Step 5, Practice

>http://www.portals.co.jp/isopp/
>http://nihongo-dekimasu.blogspot.com/2008/10/japanese-childrenbooks-practice-reading.html
>http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/
>http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/the-great-library/beginner-level/
>(pastebin)

>These are some stories for children, which you can use as you begin reading. You might also try reading some popular pieces like Ika Musume and Yotsubato! to get started.

>If you’re interested in getting some exposure and interaction with natives then you might want to look at lang-8.com. Basically you make entries in Japanese, which will get corrected by Japanese people, and then you’ll correct their entries which they write in English. You should try it out if you want to work on forming sentences and writing.

>Another approach you might is to play some popular things like Mother 2-3 and some of the Pokemon games on an emulator. Both exclusively use kana, though I do believe that on Pokemon White/Black and newer versions you have the option to use either exclusively kana or kanji. Animal Forest/Crossing also seem somewhat popular for beginners.

>Also, I would like for you to look at the Reading List in the OP, see if anything interest you, and to add to it so we can get a better and more comprehensive resource.

>If you’re looking for Japanese literature, then you might want to look at http://www.aozora.gr.jp/..

>If you’re wondering where to get Manga, LNs, etc. to download, check the Pastebin. Nyaa is always good, and Google works well as well.

>The main thing is to expose yourself in as many ways as possible.
>Try to read and listen to Japanese as often as you can manage, and make sure to make some daily progress.

>>20149446
>>20149697
If you can't be bothered to read all that, the last part says everything you need to know:
>The main thing is to expose yourself in as many ways as possible.
>Try to read and listen to Japanese as often as you can manage, and make sure to make some daily progress.
>The main thing is to expose yourself in as many ways as possible.
>Try to read and listen to Japanese as often as you can manage, and make sure to make some daily progress.
>The main thing is to expose yourself in as many ways as possible.
>Try to read and listen to Japanese as often as you can manage, and make sure to make some daily progress.
>The main thing is to expose yourself in as many ways as possible.
>Try to read and listen to Japanese as often as you can manage, and make sure to make some daily progress.
>The main thing is to expose yourself in as many ways as possible.
>Try to read and listen to Japanese as often as you can manage, and make sure to make some daily progress.
>The main thing is to expose yourself in as many ways as possible.
>Try to read and listen to Japanese as often as you can manage, and make sure to make some daily progress.
>The main thing is to expose yourself in as many ways as possible.
>Try to read and listen to Japanese as often as you can manage, and make sure to make some daily progress.

>>20149678
what a chad

and if all else fails 10000 hours of english subbed anime will never steer you wrong as your first step to learning japanese

>>20149714
>and if all else fails 10000 hours of english dubbed anime will never steer you wrong as your first step to learning japanese
Fixed

I thought I watched a lot of anime, but according to MAL I've only watched about 1300 hours. I will never learn Japanese at this pace.

>>20149726
You're more than 1/8th of the way there, 頑張れ

Are there any Anki decks for pixiv tags/otaku sex terms?

"otaku sex" terms lol

holy mackerel look at these

>>20149853
yeah, but whats the otaku term?

idk ばくにゅ? lol

目の前の動きに感嘆する市ノ瀬に、真藤さんは視線を上へ向ける。

Is the に between 市ノ瀬 and 真藤 the に meaning and? As in, they both looked up?
Because otherwise I dont know how to interpret 向ける with に and へ

Japanese made realise that I will never ever attempt to learn another non-european language and especially not fucking chinese

>>20150071
m*tt can only shit talk behind people's back. the instant anyone shows up to call him on it, he changes his tune. happened with the japanese from nada guy and n*ke.

>>20150196
Why do people like you try to use all these kind of strange methods and strategies? Do you really think you will keep at it for more than a year? You don't even live in Japan. Why not just learn Japanese?

It's a good thing you didn't know much Japanese then otherwise it would've been wasted effort.

Help me out with this, please. Context - they're playing daifugou and the person speaking is a foreigner who's not too aware of it.

>お金とか弱みとか賭けないよね…？

Is this really "弱み", and if it is, what does it mean here? Literal "weakness" doesn't seem to fit, so I wonder if I misread the kanji itself.

I'm kind of stuck at "We're not betting money and ???, are we...?"

>>20150418
What is this, manga for 蟻んこ?

>pretty decent at reading at this point
>can pick up books and just read them or read VNs without a text hooker
>still have massive problems listening to anime
Slice of life is fine, but when they infodump in Index S3 for example I need to stop and repeat almost every line, and sometimes I still can't make it out. The combination of uncommon words being dropped and them talking quite quickly is hard to get used to. In books and the like I can go at my own pace.

上手になりたいよ...(T-T )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=7AQx3oigYFs
calvins gonna make it

>>20149414
He's right though. There's a reason core decks are in the guide and the cor (and people are still doing them in these threads)

>>20149697
>>20149702
>Step 5
Jesus Christ you're pathetic. You really think you're hiding the fact that Matt is right?

>>20150514
This issue is solved automatically by just watching another 1000 anime, right?

Is there flashcard set ordered by importance/frequency of the words? It should be hassle free and just work, money doesnt matter. I cant get comfortable with anki, most sets are a complete mess and I'm unable to find a good one.
Helpu onegai.

>>20150692
>But like, what's the point?
To think in the language. Not to memorize definitions.

>>20150728
New (old) definition is using the language to learn the language.

Copying from current guide:

>Now what do I do to actually learn Japanese?

> Look up a chart of hiragana and katakana (such as these: hiragana / katakana) and write each kana down a few times. You can practice with the kana page. Make sure that you have a firm grasp on hiragana before moving on the the next step. Katakana is also important, but it's fine to move on to the next step without having as firm of a grasp on katakana.

> Core2K/6K is the generally recommended Anki deck for beginners who want to build up a basic vocabulary before they start reading. Learn how to use it from the Anki startup guide. You should also install Yomichan (Firefox/Chrome) or Rikaichamp (Firefox) or Rikaisama (Firefox pre-57+) , which will allow you to look up words by hovering over them.

> If you wish to study kanji or radicals individually, pick one of the methods discussed above. You can do so either before starting vocab or at the same time, but you should try to finish up in a few months so you can focus on vocabulary.

>>20150747
Yup, and that's why people here and in /int/ are still doing 6k. Because it's been recommended to them since this was a Google doc on /a/ (the current guide has definitely been modified to appeal more to immersion-first MIA style though like that careful wording you just posted that will go over any beginner's head)

>>20150767
Right, but people recommend that they don't try to build up a basic vocabulary before they start reading.

>>20150767
You're not wanted here m*tt gtfo with your """immersion""" (rtk+meditation) bullshit
You're as blatant as it gets

>>20150779
I like to read a lot of stuff from the same author to learn the vocab bubble though
Once you've learned vocab from one or two volumes of the same guy your comprehension rate for his other stuff skyrockets

>>20150767
i think youre right its mia style because no one is getting fluent here or in mattland

>>20150814
instead we got like 2000 or whatever

>>20150828
>Fuck this guide!
>Let's put it in every OP tho
>Also let keep it when we transition to neocities
>And let's keep it again when we move to a different neocities site

>>20150845
>The majority of posters shit on it

Huh, weird. I guess the original post is never made by that "majority of posters" because it's always fucking there

>read shit
>encounter new vocab
>add vocab to deck
>add the kanji of the vocab with mnemonics to deck for isolated kanji study

Does this approach make sense
I'm still learning kanji on their own, but only those that actually appear in vocab that I'm reading

>>20150934
do it for a year and stick with it and you tell us

>>20148138
underage ban

i mean are you gonna take advice from someone who didnt do the thing youre trying to do on said thing?

ぺにす

>>20151020
try reading eromanga instead

>>20150934
Yes. Just keep on studying 30+ new things everyday.

Believe it or not, you CAN and WILL learn kanji without having to see them in RTK beforehand! Which is why isolated kanji study is stupid as you CAN and WILL learn kanji as you learn the language!

>>20150934
Maybe for Kanji you struggle with (look-alikes for example), though I'm kind of dubious about the mnemonic part.

>>20151039
This.
>come accross 試験 for the first time
>wtf is this can't make any sense of it
>come accross 試合 and 実験 later
>oh I get it now! now I can make sense of 試験!
This is how you'll really fortify your knowledge of kanji. Do you dumbos really think japs know (how to write+readings) each and every commonly-used kanji in existence let alone jinmeiyou and never make mistakes?

I think a guide recommending you build a "basic vocabulary" with core2k isn't as bad as a guide recommending you meditate for a month and then put off reading and mining for 3 months while you do RTK.

but the best and most effective guide is the one that tells you to watch 10000 hours of english subbed anime

>>20151149
It's stupid but it's nowhere close to not doing anything for 4 months.

wheres the real ass immersion guide that tells you the most effective way to review flashcards and immerse while in a japanese toilet

>>20151185
The most optimal thing to do in the Japanese toilet appears to be reviewing your Anime on your iPod

>>20151260
>learn kana
>read TK
>enjoy compelling content
it doesn't get easier than this

>>20151260
>>20151131

anything less than 7000 is just completely unacceptable

>>20151260
Do kana first and learn about kanji radicals and basic grammar. Then try that. If it doesn't work out then find out what you're lacking such as vocab, grammar or kanji and then study that. Then try that again.

I'm getting to the point where I understand more reading the Japanese definition rather than looking up a word in a JP-EN dictionary, especially with so many words sounding similar when translated.

How do you advanced people structure your Anki decks? Do you include Japanese definitions too? I usually remember a card with ambiguous meaning best if I just edit in the JP definition in my own words.

can i please have some suggestions for some light novels that aren't 異世界 fantasy shit? I've already read NHK by the way

>>20151289
Are you perchance autistic?
Do you learn the definition of every new word you come accross?

I've already watched hundreds of hours of anime and haven't learned anything beyond like kawaii sugoi evangelion itadakimasu

>>20151260
The thing that really helped me was the yotsubato reading pack
Don't get me wrong, you'll still take 10 minutes per manga frame, but it's a great manga and the reading pack will help you tremendously

Obviously only after learning kana and having read through tae kims grammar guide (which covers about 95% of the yotsubato grammar)

>>20151289
I keep a separate field for Japanese definitions but I mostly just add English because it's only a button press away and for most expressions it's enough. But yeah if jj helps you go for it. I'd certainly like my deck to have it.

>>20151323
helped you to do and achieve what

>>20151332
Getting a basic feel for the language
Since then I've graduated and I'm now reading spicy wolf fairly comfortably, so I can't be completely wrong

fuck a book

have fun with the things u like

>>20151373
Let's cheer up!
Go go anon-kun!
Go for win!

It's for supporting and encouraging each other to happily learn Japanese together ＼(^o^)／

>>20151373
We need more geyline guys to generate discussion.

>>20151413
Possibly, I wouldn't have asked otherwise.

>>20151433
But I'm already watching like 10 series this season. If I'm going to pick up more, I need to choose them carefully.

>>20151447
why not just go over and give it a sniff dude

instead of making stupid rules for yourself just give in to your sense of wonder and curiosity

let it take you down to pitty city

tough to believe theres people that can stomach watching more than a couple of this seasons shows to be honest

>>20151476
It's a good party trick obviously

>>20151481
Goblin Slayer, the slime one and uzasugiru maid

I haven't watched all 14 yet, been busy with the left overs from last season

>>20151509
People try to deny it but I'll trust this huge sample size over their anecdotes and theories as to why X or Y language are harder.

>>20151305
>wtf are you actually autistic enough to try to understand what you're reading?
never change /djt/

>>20151527
i dont like comin down on people but this post is complete fuckin aids degozaru man

>>20151509
I don't have the link saved on this computer, but the FBI actually made a table of "hardest languages to learn for a native english speaker" based on various criteria, and I think japanese ticks 9/10 criteria while chinese ticks 8/10

anyone else here gay

>>20151305
o yaeh, me too actually lol. just go full monolingual at that point.

>>20151543
>understanding a word and its uses
vs
>putting its definition in your fucking flashcards
Too bad I don't have any ebin brainlet wojak pictures saved on my computer, guess that's what it takes to try getting a point across to the likes of you

>>20151548
あ わたしの出番だね

https://vocaroo.com/

I wish I could read this.

one mans shit is another mans aoty

look at evangelion

>>20151568
>hand ride taiga
???

>>20151505
That's in my top 3 so far. I only picked it up because the Yuru Yuri mangaka is doing the character designs, and I'm very pleasantly surprised.

>>20151581
only tiger i like is in this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pge2nb979k

I really feel bad for people who're new to /djt/

>>20151598
you trippin hard and you prolly aint even been hitting the sizzurp

that shit bangs

>>20151611
I recommend giving everything a try and seeing what works for you.
The most important thing to keep in mind is to have fun!

>>20151624
hmm your right im going to watch some anime right now

>>20151642
honestly 6969 prolly isnt that far for me at this point

also its intentionally high and slightly unrealistic for a reason yet its still going to work for anyone who does it

>>20151611
Do Core6k, begin reading once your learned (not mature) words hit 1,2k. The only reason people in here advocate against Core6K is because they have ADD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpCTZQFJcjc
I wish I was this guy.

>>20151878
"while"
basically while you look trustworthy, i'll help

>>20151899
Thank you! My best guess was that it meant relationship in this case but I that didn't make much sense.

>>20151878
>I will help as long as you think that you can live with good luck and make your eyes trustworthy
Glad to see google translate hasn't caught up yet

you should only be here to say stupid shit because you're going back to studying right after.
あんたばかゲイ尻荷肉棒吸えおっぱいと膣マンコ可愛い乳首

cool, we need people to make us look good

>>20148749
All I see is advertising.
Kill yourself.

>>20152030
to video tape myself wearing my 普段着 carrying a samurai sword obviously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw27QuFhwc8#t=81

>>20152047
face

>>20152049
you say that like anyone here thinks that's bad advice

>>20152059
exactly why I brought attentioni to it, you should be practicing speach from day 1 so you don't sound like retards, you're following a dip shit who will rewrite his erfect mdel for learning in a week

the only thing better than a retard is the retard calling the retard a retard ftw

>>20152098
>talking is a dumb priority
>autistic spasms and clicking sounds

>>20152123
it depends on whether or not you find it rewarding. if speaking as a beginner motivates you then go ahead, even if it's not otherwise useful.

>>20150649
I know you're just shitposting, but here are the other steps:
>Step 1, Google IME
>Step 2, The Kana
>Step 3, Getting started on Kanji*
>Step 4, Getting Started on Grammar and Vocabulary**

* Comes with the following note:
>Also, I must mention that some people choose to not learn the kanji individually at all and choose to simply gain the knowledge through vocabulary study. If you would like, then you may choose to do that instead.

There's also this from the "Before you begin" section:
>If your goal is reading comprehension (for reading your mangos and VNs), it is very arguable that you don‘t need to be able to write. If training only recognition gets you where you want to be at a pace and with an effort you’re happy with, keep at it.

** Summary: Read Tae Kim, Genki or Japanese the Manga Way. Install Rikaisama and use it to create a mining deck with the Anki Real-Time Import Feature. Core2K (not 6K, 10K, or PLUS) is also mentioned as being useful.

>>20120811
mist

>>20152159
i dont think youre shaking off any real bad habits

its good to be conscious of how to enunciate but that stuffs really all gonna start clicking down the line

if you tell people to think about this stuff theyre gonna be worrying about inconsequential shit like o vs ou i think

best general advice i can really think to give a bedroom dweller is stop dragging out your syllables

other than that just go play and most things will come together naturally

Who else is a total sucker for Japanese romance stories that always end in an undefined mess or have an open end?

>>20152232
have you actually had to spend years doing said thing and experienced it personally?

>>20152243
fa**ot had terrible pitch accent, it's been illustrated through external critique videos be natives, which he still toils with endlessly today. If only he studied those things from hthe start. yw in advance

>>20150740
Jesus Christ that's pathetic

>>20152317
https://streamable.com/yczoj

*uncaps fleshlight* welp・・

>>20152289
>For vocabulary, I recommend you get rikaisama and use its ‘Anki Real-Time Import Feature’ or its ‘Save To File’ feature which allows you to add in vocabulary very quickly. There’s also a feature called ‘Sanseido mode’ which allows you to see Japanese definitions for words. Read, and add any new words you come across into an Anki deck so you can begin to build up your vocabulary.
>Also, be sure to check out the Core 2k decks which you can find on ankiweb. (http://www.ankiweb.net/)) Sign in, click on “Decks”, “Get Shared Decks”, “Japanese”, and then get one of the many Core 2k decks. These decks are very well put together and are very useful.
^ Shows you this was written before the purge of Core from AnkiWeb.

>>20152342
The 3-clause BSD is a free software license compatible with GPL

what the fuck does たておつ / 立て乙 mean? I see that posted constantly in 2chan skyrim threads and I have no fucking idea what it means.

>>20152350
>Mozc (which isn't available for Winbabbys)
https://github.com/google/mozc/blob/master/docs/build_mozc_in_windows.md

>>20152373
>have to built it yourself
no winbabby is going to do that

>>20152363
>s-see I was right
grasping at straws I see

>>20152403
theres sites that do effectively the same thing

>>20152403
The Japanese internet doesn't have anything good. Why are you surprised?

>>20152546
Thats not a voice changer though

>>20152569
>it's text to audio
It isn't, though.

>>20152569
nah i know audio and other than just saying its fuckin obvious just note all the gross (エロい) mouth noises

i just wanted to check her out before the surgery

https://streamable.com/siz7p

>>20152639
yea basically nothing teaches it nearly as well curedolly, ga is esentially the doer of of the verb though

>>20152684

Trying to play some VN on http://tss.asenheim.org but the text zooms past and I have to read the logs each time I press next. What gives?

>>20152698
if the website sux go get u some roms innit mate

>>20152737
It's in the guide I figured it's aite

>when you think you need tae kim but you find the cure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsTsliRe2Cg

>>20152752
no thats just japanese it says 口 口 口 口 口 口 口 口 口 口 口 口 口 口( 口 口 口 口 口 口) 口 口 口 口

がっこう

いきたくない

きょうしが

>>20152752
It just says mouth over and over.

>>20152752
That's your computer telling you to stop being a sub-watching dekinai.

>>20152743
>>20152737
Also using yomichan for the text is fast and simple.

>>20152757
Kuchi gang kuchi gang kuchi gang

>>20152776
that wasnt me i dont make people laugh

>>20152763
>yomichan
>fast

its not easy its not efficient its not the current english speaking japanese "learning" community meta

but it was around before them and it worked and it works now

if you have no other choice and your back is to the wall

open your heart and let anime and jesus in and you will be saved

amen

>>20152818
I watched mine on multiple windows/screens at 2x speed, still took me three years. Essential learning step, really.

>>20152828
>reddit spaced asf
amen though

>酒とは違う原因で顔を赤くするロム爺の前に携帯の画面を突きつける
so which reading is 酒?

>>20152833
さけ
Why would you think it's anything else

>>20152840
theres some vintage win right there

>>20152853
That's what I initially thought but reading it like that could maybe give the reader the impression that he is drinking "the sake" instead of alcohol instead

>>20152866
Sake is a general word for alcohol

Anyone else need alcohol to enjoy anime?

>>20152853
さけ

>>20152887
ったく・・・　もっと出来ないことなが？

>>20152858
>that last line
Why are they getting so defensive at the end? No one cares if you hate the guy or not.

>>20152904
Probably because his listening was shit, so he just used the subs to read everything?

>>20152917
The way I read it it sounded like he is serious about learning Japanese and thinks watching subs (even English ones) is better for that purpose than watching raw.
Maybe you are right though and I interpreted too much into it.

just finished my 10000th hour of anime, I'm now completely fluent

>>20152913
You realize multiple people in the last djt thread we're shitting on Matt for exactly that reason, right? They didn't even care he wrote that last line

>>20152974
I have to say being overly humble is what repulses me from said people

>>20152953
matt thinks he looks bad because he has harsh commentary on people who are worse than him
matt actually looks bad because he can't go five seconds without reassuring himself that he's the enlightened sensei who long after his passing will be universally recognized as the voice of reason

>>20152962
Didnt Matt start talking to Japanese people after coming back to America because he wanted to impress them?

>>20152832
>reddit spacing
remember when newshits used to lurk for a little while before posting? me neither

>>20152858
>>20152864
>>20152904
>>20152913
>>20152917
>>20152945
>>20152953
>>20152961
>>20152962
>>20152963
>>20152965
>>20152973
>>20152974
>>20152979
>>20152981

>>20152994
i dont think anyones actually mad were just havin a good laugh at our intermediate misunderstood friend

>>20153016
Wrong:
>>20153015

>>20153015
If you want to ban me, you first need to get in a position to do so. Until then, stop talking to me.

>>20153015
who got the high score on this one i only got 1 : (

>>20152994
I still don't know who he is or what ajatt is and I don't give a shit enough to ever look it up but I've been here long enough to pick up the terminology.

>>20153032
3 here
if someone has more you have to post a screenshot

>>20153027
did somebody give you permission to respond to me? no bitch *stuffs my dick in your mouth*

>>20153035
also 3 i'm glad someone else was actually trying

>>20153037
i mean i dont blame you for needing to post something at that egg head but what the bloody hell is this shit mate

I want to look at 2channel but it's blocked for me. Any uncomplicated way of accessing it anyways? I've heard about VPNs but don't really know anything about them and apparently they require you to buy them, which I don't really wanna do. Am I out of luck otherwise?

>want to watch an anime 字幕なしで
>need to watch something I'm interested in so that I actually pay attention
>don't want to watch something I'm too interested in because i'd feel like i was missing out when I inevitably miss things

existence is suffering

there is no "perfect method'
I can only say I did 6 months of immersion and got an A on the N3 exam, so do you, but keep it nihongo

>>20153075
>>20153082
thanks for the motivation anons ill ganbarimasu

>>20153065
Rewatch something you've already watched before

>>20153099
why watch it if you can't stand it?

if it's just because there's a lot of episodes, at least watch something like Conan or Doraemon or Kochikame

I have a (native) Japanese speaker as a practice partner for a few hours a week. What's the best way to get to a somewhat conversational level?

>>20153100
this is no gatekeep its a if youre fuckin fiddlin with it youre not watching it

its not a matter of do what works (what an irresponsible thing to say) its a matter of if youre gonna need to sit there and dissect it watch with english subs until youve reached 10000 hours of anime with english subs

>>20153126
conversing i think

>>20153126
talk to him

>>20153123
>why watch it if you can't stand it?
Because I watched dragonball when I was young and wanted to see how shit it became.

>>20153146
only takes like 5 minutes of the first new dragonball thing to know dude

nothnig will ever compare to the greatness of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYSmABWrazQ

>>20153126
Have him sing you a lullaby every night

>>20153136
>>20153133
Do I just memorize basic phrases? I could do some vocab but grammar is really rough. I don't have the IME but things like desu/masu, wo/GA, etc. Is it something you pick up while conversing, or something to master before?

>>20153186
だといいな ┐(‘～` )┌

>>20153221
However shitty you are he's gonna praise the hell out of you.
Don't fall for it.

>>20153282
the reflection in the glasses lmao

fuckin nuke chan can you believe hes "reading" that hunk of shit and its not gonna do anything for him whereas he could just be watching english subbed anime ┐(‘～` )┌

>>20153282
He'll be fluent in no time if he consumes content as compelling as that.

>>20153282
lol

rip my trip all we have now are the memories

>>20153358
you mean stick a chopstick in it

straight up

>>20153333
woah I ain't reading all that shit.

this may be the best thread of the year

if by best you mean worst

Why isn't curedolly in the guide despite being the best resource for grammar?

has anyone ever tried making a free J-J dictionary by scraping japanese wiktionary?

>>20153416
Because I'm the one who discovered her greatness (except her shitty voice changer and voice) and she's only recently been catching on here.

RATTATA

I love coming here to post about **** and ＊＊＊＊

god that book is so bad it takes a really special kind of autist to write that shit

who is the man behind cure dolly its prolly one of you

one of you also referring to someone who may reside only in the int thread now as well

>detects my autism
fuck you

ill forgive you if you send me the dolly nudes

>>20153525
depends on how much you practicedf your accent before

>>20153525
Nip girls love your cute English accent, don't lose it. Seize that yellow pussy with your colonial dick

>>20153541
until you get 英語嫌い'd

>>20152846
Compared to other Rikai-remakes, it's really slow.

Try installing any of the others alongside Yomichan and test for yourself. All the other options are so much more responsive.

>>20153550
has this happened

>>20152864
I can't believe he actually fucking did this. I bet the people he went to school with still talk about him and laugh about it to this day. Imagine your first exposure to an American being fucking MattVsJapan eating his lunch every day in a fucking toilet cubicle.

>>20153578
>舐めるな
>舐めない

>>20153595
The worst part is that he wasted an opportunity to go eat lunch alone on the school roof, people would kill for that opportunity

>>20153639
i dont think they let you do that anymore this isnt tokyo drift

>>20153637
you need more pattern recon

>>20153637
nameru has other means than lick, it's probably "to make fun of/to make light of/to put down" so don't look down on it or something to that effect

also tokyo drifts main character is a gaijin idk dude theres a lot of levels to it that pertain to the subject here that im not even fully consciously aware of

>>20153657
eating lunch or hanging out on the school roof is a time honored japanese tradition, at least according to every single slice of life manga/anime/drama ever. dunno if they actually still do that or not

>>20153617
I bet when his classmates heard there was going to be an American joining their class they were really excited. Imagine their disappointment when it turned out to be Matt who wouldn't talk to anyone and ate his lunch in the toilet every day because the Holy Book of AJATT told him his Japanese would be permanently crippled if he talked to anybody.

>>20153667
problem is roofs are dangerous its better to keep the kids inside and sheltered

and safe

>>20153681
Horizontal version.

>>20152974
You should've seen his video about Japanese From Zero. Here's a clip: >>>/wsg/2431261

>>20153683
emphasized version

>>20153703
valid but ultimately unhelpful because people who use anki will use it regardless

memorial deluxe version

>>20153687
the sick thing is like george is the ultra casual nihongoer and i can sympathize with reading books is gay especailly when you dont wanna read them but the fact is george has way more time under his belt using japanese in real life period and can likely deal with almost all situations in society

matt couldnt even deal with going to high school and ate lunch in the fuckin toilet

he just wasnt ready for the big stage and for the big market

Reminder
>>20153450

>>20153762
could you perhaps post them please just all of them

>>20153769
No, it would crash the 4chan servers

reminder >>20152893

>>20153525
yeah dude that's way too much

https://youtu.be/NInGVNQkqxc?t=4717

>>20153692
>unironically getting a card once its leeched

関係のイメージが１番アニメでございますか？

>>20153777

>>20153777
stop posting this ice cream turtle neck baba fuck before i take two scoops out of your ass

>>20153776
why is yoga tards hair so bad

>>20153783
are you sayin you wanna eat this ninjas shit??

>>20153772
well you dont have to post the chinese ones

>>20153793
two scoops of his rectum not his shit wtf whats your problem

>>20153773
さけイズすごい

>>20153798
look im just sayin man dont eat all the free ice cream

>>20153797
you do realize that to read japanese properly you have to know the kyuuji and manyougana as well right? honestly if you can't even read kojiki in its original script you can't call yourself fluent.

hi actually japan here i cant read newspaper too many kanji dakara learned english

what you want is the denshi paper

>listening practice before you've acquired 1k-2k vocabulary minimum

>>20153875
You should know at least that much from watching subbed anime.

>>20153849
>unironically using romji

how do i say in japanese "ask me kanji" as in ask me to recognize kanji or whatever?
been doing some RTK and wanna ask one of my lads to ask me some kanji

>>20153932
dude its ok that you wanna go on a literal fecal feeding frenzy i aint gonna judge

>>20153957
like this

>>20153953
>ではないで
wow this is worse than MY japanese >>20149053

>>20153972
at least quote the 英語の歴史は騒々しさのせいで bro

>>20151088
>>20153631
Manga isn't reading buddy.

>>20153979
i didnt live long enough to get all the way down there soz m(_ _)m

>>20153969
>>20153972
wow these are worse than MY japanese https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7TDpqCCpO4#t=19

>Yikes, the thread

genki 2 page 69

go

>saying yikes in 2018 lol

>>20154014
cringe, the post

>>20148138

warotaing at this thread

anyone know of any japanese discord/irc network I could lurk on? I want to see how japs actually text.

discord is out of the question and irc is still too technologically advanced for most users

youre gonna have to run your own infiltration op mate

>>20154048
imagine coming to djt thinking it will make you better at japanese

>>20154060
>imagine coming

welp here we go again >>20152355

>>20154048
but i only say "jap" lovingly so it's okay

DJT went from light hearted and good natured Steve worshiping to some twisted, negative obsession with Matt. The fall of DJT can be mirrored by the shift in its meme culture. As with all problems DJT has, Jamal is likely to blame.

>showing language learnes how shit your input is
why would you do this

>>20149414
Isn't it hypocritical of him to disown anki when it was apart of how he learned the language. Instead of saying to skip it entirely why not just say don't spend too much time with it? Just like with all the beginner material use it to ease yourself into the language then start consuming native content.

oh great another bangin wareya production im sure thisll be great

>>20154114
i think its more he wants to forget the part of his life where it was just him his flashcards and the toilet every day for lunch at school while kids were laughing and enjoying their seisyun

if i spent a quarter of the time i spend on this website actually learning Japanese i would already be fluent

>>20154096
You sure are getting defensive about a joke, friendo.
I detect guilt, as if you know you're bringing down DJT from the inside and yet you can't bring yourself to stop posting constantly.
Very tragic. Quintessential hedgehog's dilemma.

>>20154114
>why not just say don't spend too much time with it?
That is what he suggests?

>>20154129
dont write fanfics about me its weird also i took the whole weekend off and yall still sucked ass without me

>>20154136
the last thread was pretty good for a while though

>>20154136
>yall still sucked ass without me
The thread was significantly better actually. Only other thing that needed dealing with was the Mattposting.

oh and you broke my trip

>>20154144
nah just cuz you got hate for me doesnt mean the thread was better it was just as trash and didnt do no good for nobody top to bottom objectively period final gg no rere

Do it for Cure Dolly.

>>20154528
You can already do a radical search through Jisho in that case though, or just draw it into Google Translate. I don't really see what this does that either of those don't.

>>20154546
Dekinai-chan, New Game (今日も), Steve and Yuusha (I think) all come from /a/. Only new thing I can think of here is "yoshi time for reading" if you can call that a meme.

>>20154553
No wait, we have two more thanks to Jamal ("10000 hours of English subbed anime" and "manga isn't reading").

>>20154553
what about RTK?

>>20154536
google translate can't find obscure kanji
jisho's radical search misses a lot of characters because its data is bad (for example, jisho decomposes 導 incorrectly), and you also can't search by normal kanji, you're forced to use the dropdown menu and radicals; also, it can't find obscure kanji either, though it can find more than google translate

>>20154646
たとえば

>すばらしいあすがおとずれますように

とか？

>>20154659
>>20154669
明日は面白いと望んでいる
明日は面白いように望んでいる/願っている
I'm下手くそ, not sure how to say it

>>20154723
>"今世界中で"空白の百年"に興味あるやガラ等は"写し"は何枚も集めゆうが"
>"誰もそれを解読できちょらんのじゃき...!!"

Any SFW VNs for mobile I could play on my commute?

>>20154912
first thing that came to mind was planetarian but it's not reaaaally a VN, there's no choices and only one ending

>>20154926
How difficult is the text? I don't mind if it's a pseudo vn I just want something engaging to read.

Where is the light novel discussion thread on 4chan? Is this it?

>>20154971
I've caught site of them on /a/ before I think, but they never get many posts.

Discussion of LNs is here is okay, so long as it's on topic (i.e. language related). If you just want to post about the plot, the characters, your thoughts and impressions, etc. then that doesn't belong here anymore than the same sort of posting about anime or manga does.

>>20154980
Why did he decide to start doing this? Is it supposed to be improving his Japanese?

>>20154727
>今世界中で"空白の百年"に興味あるやガラ等は"写し"は何枚も集めゆうが
The context is good enough to get the picture, but Google this.

>>20154992

I see, I wonder where can I read ranobe online in japanese, so that rikaikun can help me with translations.

>>20154712
JK用語 is the worst

あざまる水産!

>>20155082
You can start by reading the guide.

You're going to have a hard time finding digitized stuff in general though because Japanese pirates like to convert ebooks to .jpg images and almost never release the original ebook itself for some reason. A lot of the digitized LNs out there aren't official digitizations and instead have been created by OCR'ing scans - read these at your own risk as they're liable to contain errors and it's doubtful whether they were ever proof-read before being uploaded.

Most of your LN reading is going to be done with scans or pseudo-scans created from ebooks, with the help of KanjiTomo or Capture2Text.

セーラーふくのうえに

ゆかたをきながしたら

どうなるかな

なんかのキャラでやってそうだけど

One word, two kanji: 糸士口女氏日

>>20155217
Come on. You know nuke pulls mad pussy in japan.

What songs would you sing in a karaoke?

Mine's snow halation, don't stop believin and mondai girl.

Are you around, Wareya? Do you expect that Nazeka will have support for mining audio any time in the near future?

so what's the recommended interval in Anki after which one should get rid of the card? 6 months, a year?

it's just mindboggling how SLOW nukechan is at doing everything

why does his 45 minute anki session have to last 3 hours? why does he waffle on for 20 minutes at the start of the stream before he starts doing anything

he'd be so much better if he just made sensible use of his time, I low key think that he doesn't ever particularly care about learning Japanese, he just likes the process itself as a hobby to get away from his wife or something