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>>20006997
Cute alien!

>>20006997
>Call it a Type Moon General.
>Post picture of Type Mercury.

You had one job. ONE JOB. ONLY ONE JOB. And YET you managed to fail in the most MISERABLE way, the most PATHETIC op ALIVE.

I didn't know these were a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny82CVIz6AI
https://youtu.be/18_N9me852o

>>20007462
Holy shit I gotta play CCC. I wonder in what context that's even in.
That would've been a really great callback if CCC had really been Nasu's last Fate work.

>>20007034
Please take your meds.

>>20001455
He's popular but his story has wrapped up without anything else to go and a lot of his fans have moved to other favorites, but still like the red man. Kiritsugu had his Counter Guardian version released so he had new stuff added and still getting developed, EMIYA is mostly the "To go cooking mama", he's kind of done narratively.

>>20003483
Which ones you don't recognize?

What would sex with the embodiment of an entire planet be like?

>>20008668
Overwhelming. Like you were being buried under its weight.

>still no TM Ace

>>20009327
Type Moon is dead.

Snek

>>20009327
>TM Ace
It's called Fate Grand Order material now.

>>20009597
It actually hasn't been replaced, FGO just has its own extra shitty magazine.

>>20009597
I thought it was GO Ace now.

>>20009615
That was a one-off thing.
So far TM Ace has only skipped 2013, though that might happen again this year (and it comes out early 2019 instead).

TM Ace is basically FGO Ace now anyway.

>>20008678
I wanna princess carry Arc no matter how heavy it is

This thread is very dead.

>>20016750
Well it is a general for a dead company.

>>20016750
There's nothing to discuss.

Some kind soul plans to translate Fate/Empire of Dirt?

>>20017694
Probably not, though I think the creators themselves said they planned a translation if it got enough support, or something like that.

>>20017885
The devs are crowdfunding the project? 'cause the art and soundtrack are pretty good.

>>20017931
It's a doujinshi project. I think it depends more on how well it sells and if they see interest from overseas.
Either way you're better off learning Japanese.

>>20017694
As >>20017885 said a post release English release is possible, given that they are based in Canada.
Somebody did get machine TL's working just in case and the chinks already translated the demo, cause Liu Xiu autism.

>>20017931
Nope, completely self funded, they already said they spent around 100k USD on it, and this was said quite some time ago.
RPGMaker can be serious business, somehow.

>>20017936
>Either way you're better off learning Japanese.
While correct, there are many personal justifications to just grin and bear it.
If you have the devotion to Japanese media, sure.

While I wasn't planning to post about it again for some time, I will as a reply.
And man, one design has me hooked more than all of TM post Mahoyo, which I'm not sure to feel sad or cocky about.
Of course you all know, but I can't help but remind people.

>>20018245
Is Rider Jan Zizka?

>>20018997
Yes, I have mentioned it a few times before.

>>20019007
I'm new in this thread.
F/EoD made me want to play F/SN. That rider theme is so nice... And I personally admire Zizka, so the hype is real.

>>20017936
My japanese stops at the kana. Time to revisit my anki decks.

>>20011912
Notes was interesting. It tells just enough about the setting to keep it intriguing.

>>20007561
>FSN and FHA
>EXTRA and CCC

What's the verdict on Extella and FGO?

>>20019973
Garbage

>>20019973
Extella is fucking garbage both gameplay and story, FGO if you want to judge it just as a story is hit or miss with far more misses than hits.

>>20007561
What went wrong with Type Moon?

>>20020009
Artoria stopped getting the 1st spot in popularity polls
It went wrong the very second that happened

>>20020009
Nasu got lazy and started hiring people to write spinoffs instead of doing any work, soon his work ethic of doing absolutely nothing transferred over to Type-Moon's staff and now all of their non LN works (besides for Strange Fake) are outsourced.

Didn't Nasu love Extra and called CCC his proudest work? Why was so little effort put into FGO and Extella?

>>20020021
2012?

>>20023459
Oh shit, this is actually official, huh?
Strange to use blackened Berserker for movie, since he doesn't appear in that state until the next one.
I'm glad that there's the implication that they're doing Saber Alter's "unveiling" scene just like the VN.

Here's your park scene bro

Remember that one time there was an extremely low-budget live action adaptation of FSN?

>>20024142
Is there a stream or something?

>>20024175
I think it's over, there's just 3 screenshots from the movie.

>>20024143
Archer looks electrified.

Should I play (read, I guess) Stay Night with sex scenes or without them?

>>20024386
With

>>20020185
fuck i'm jelly

>>20019136
It has that feeling that I've been missing from TM as of recent, Zizka is a truly underrated badass.
I'm confident justice will be done.

*sips Illya's urine*

>>20024196

>>20027942
kek
Can't wait for Shirou to channel his inner Sasuke

I love Arcueid Brunestud!

>>20029827
I love Arcueid Brunestud more!

>>20029827
>>20029838
Arc is decent.

>>20026942
>less than 2 months from C95
>planning to release another EoD demo soon
Oh boy, I'm really excited for C96.

>>20029932
https://twitter.com/maple_LuwenWS/status/1049237214238892032
Yep, C97 it is.

>>20030174
Jesus

>>20006997
Did she acquire the Tohno Gland?

We're not dying, right?

>>20033696
Strange, we just shot to page 10 in 6 hours...

>>20033696
The very point of discussion is dead.

>>20033967
I know anon, I just found it weird how /jp/ sped up there for a while.

Does anyone know where to find the raw Fate/Zero light novels? The torrents and DDL links I've found seem pretty dead.

>>20034150
https://mega.nz/#F!OhYj3RDS!zP-0Y9L1GoO7ZuEiUV7LMw

>>20035549
Thanks!

Arc hips

>>20037484
Lovely

Tsukihime

Will they uphold their promise, /jp/?

Is it even possible that work is still being done, or ever was done on this project, if all they had to show the fans was six character sprites, one BGM, and the interview about the teacher?

If it's not going to happen, was the possibility in the air truly worth holding back Melty HD for 'because they wanted it to look like the remake'?

Is Nasu even capable of creating this kind of work anymore, Mahoyo nonwithstanding? They said they were sick and tired and burned out on FGO and wanted to drive it to end of Part 2 and leave, but even if they could, would it lead them to produce more franchise-cornerstones like the works that made them famous, or more bullshit like Extella?

Is this image implying that they're aware that the bombastic Nero vs Depletion Garden stuff they had in mind for Sacchin, and by extension what would satisfy a modern audience, would not fit into the greater narrative arc of Tsukihime which derives its timeless value largely from its minimalist features? Is it even possible to remake Tsukihime without muddying it all up?

>>20026942
Wait, that's Jan Žižka? Been waiting for that guy forever, but figured he'd be too obscure for actual Type-Moon.

The NP better be the drums he had made of his skin to lead the troops after his death.

>>20038803
There will be more Tsukihime content in the future, there's money to be made from older fans.
Wether it'll be the Remake, we sadly don't know.
I hope Nasu can deliver another classic, but it's been so many years with subpar content and shitty Fate milking, it's hard to hold out hope. I still do, though.

As for Sacchin's route, I think it'll be a Near Side thing, and also where Nasu injects most of his new lore in the Remake, so it won't have a big negative impact on Far side.

SF Gil>Kid Gil from Prisma>Gil from Zero>Kid Gil from HA>Gil from SN
Dunno about CCC or Extella yet

>>20038820
I think the NP has to do with his war wagons.
Though it is being hidden to an extent, the dev hasn't officially revealed that it is Zizka.
This >>20018245 is the NP cut-in screen.
The drums would be a neat idea for a suicide NP.

>>20039729
SF Gil is basically Zero Gil really, he doesn't feel like a different character like the others.
Ko Gil also feels consistent.

>>20038803
>They said they were sick and tired and burned out on FGO and wanted to drive it to end of Part 2 and leave
When was that said?

>>20040920
https://www.frontlinejp.net/2018/08/15/fate-grand-order-3rd-anniversary-developer-interview-1-2/

>The interview begins with the interviewer asking the three how they feel about FGO’s third anniversary, and Nasu says that he is very tired. He then adds that this is in a good way, that three years went by in a flash and that they now have a better grasp of what they can do and what they want to do, and that rather then celebrating three years having gone by, he’s more looking forward to what comes next. Haga notes that many mobile games just end suddenly, and that they are fortunate that FGO has managed to continue for this long. He also states that he is surprised that three years have already passed, a sentiment that Takeuchi echoes. Takeuchi says that FGO was the first game they worked on with no goal, that they work on continuously like a serialisation, and that while the first year was fun, after three years, it is like Nasu said, tiring.

>>20040920
They don't say they actually want to leave or end after part 2, sadly.

>>20038803
Satsuki is just for tertiaries.

I have read all the Tsukihime first two routes and Satsuki was nowhere. She is useless. She is like an inferior Arc. She shouldn't be there. Satsuki is a bad character. An inferior character. You shouldn't think about her: don't lose your brainpower over her. Is she even in Tsukihime? Is she even a character? Does she sparkle in the night? I think not. I think coherent. Nasu didn't think about her. Nasu thinks about Saber and big tit girl from Fate. Nasu likes money. 2 billion US dollars from the united states. That's how much US dollar he made from Fate Great Order. He doesn't care about the girl that I don't care about Tsukihime.

You know I'm rite.

>>20043784
>I have read all the Tsukihime first two routes and Satsuki was nowhere
>She is like an inferior Arc.

Well I have read all the Tsukihime last three routes and Arcueid was nowhere. By the ratio of three to two this should make Satsuki more relevant than Arcueid.

Thoughts? The posts are talking, of course, about the dolls from Rozen Maiden.

>>20040920
>He then adds that this is in a good way,
This just means he's tired of all the work he put on it, anon.

You have selective reading. Burned out is how I describe how he feels about Tsukihime. That's why he can't write anything about it anymore.

>>20045374
>>20045374
He can't feel 'burned out' on something he wrote nothing about for ten years.

Is poverty and the humility associated with it required for subtlety in writing, that only poor writers create concise and lossless works anymore? Do your senses somehow become so overloaded when you get rich in the modern age, that you can no longer understand and appreciate, much less create, minimalist content? Does one automatically buy into the vision that bigger is always better in order to justify the bag of snacks he brings from the store every day? Does budget always have to kill perfection this way, through muddying it up with noise? Is greed natural? Does a man naturally want just because he has? Although it is certainly possible for a writer to create work he himself does not understand (ie when Kafka describes processes he is observing), is it truly possibly that a man would create a forty hour read, and later in his life get to the point where he no longer identifies with even the mere atmosphere of it at all?

>>20045627
Maybe he just moved on. Maybe he just don't want to revisit finished projects.

Why does FGO have such a terrible main theme?
It has some decent music but the main theme is pure garbage

>>20047718
You mean the OP song for part 1, or 2? Or the title screen music?

>>20047828
the title screen music that always ends up being used as the leifmotiv in many other tracks and ruining them

>>20047841
Hmm, I do think the original title screen song sucked, but I don't really remember it as a leitmotif.

>>20045627
>Do your senses somehow become so overloaded when you get rich in the modern age
Maybe it isn't a matter of a writer getting rich, but only of the modern age fully arriving. Around the time that Type-Moon grew big sensory overload delivered over the Internet reached the rich and the poor alike. (It probably hit the Internet-literate NEET the hardest.) That it happened simultaneously may just be coincidental. What isn't coincidental is that attention spans are getting shorter and fiction longer and more connected. I'm guessing that you lurk /lit/ and we share an interest in similar themes. If I am right, you may get something out of https://zerohplovecraft.wordpress.com/2018/05/11/the-gig-economy-2/..

People always blame FGO for ruining the Fate franchise but basically everything that you hate about it was introduced in Extra/Extella. Nero, Last Encore and Extraverse is your real enemy. Why can you not see this?

>>20050129
Because unironically the first two games in Extra are great, everything else that follows is garbage.

>>20050129
Because Extra was still all written by Nasu, had good characters all around, had a good balance between Masters and Servants, used its self-insert in a decent way, and used a medium proper for storytelling.

>>20050129
Extra didn't pretend to be bigger than itself.

>>20050193
>>20050213
>>20050799
So Extra is worth playing? I've got a PSP with a broken analog stick that's collecting dust.

>>20050991
Yeah sure, cool characters and unique setting. Though I would reccomend an emulator rather than PSP, so you can fast forward the shitty slow combat and use save states.

>>20050213
That's only true of CCC. The first Extra is pretty mediocre all around

>>20051692
All of those things I stated are objectively true, only one you might disagree with is the characters.

RIP Aoko's back

>>20053022
This physically hurts me.

>>20018245
>>Nope, completely self funded, they already said they spent around 100k USD on it, and this was said quite some time ago.
>RPGMaker can be serious business, somehow.
I seriously doubt this.
That's indie dev squandering all his kickstarter money on 5000 bucks monthly rent on Silicon Valley-tier.

>>20056163
The tweet was ages ago, but it was 10 million yen.
I'm certain of this.

>>20053016
How is the self-insert used in a decent way in the original? And how is the medium proper for storytelling when most would tell you that it's practically unbearable without an emulator with fast-forward and state saves on? Yeah, sure, it's still a better medium than GO but it's garbage nonetheless.

Remember when Nasu said that CCC would be his final Fate work back in the day.

Good times.

>>20048877
>Cryptonomicon 2018
That was a pretty good read Anon, thanks for that!

Why is Ciel the only past incarnation of Roa that survives?

>>20057947
We don't know, but most likely, Arcueid didn't kill her hard enough, and she was in clinical death for a while but got better. Roa's bits called it an incarnation, packed up and went back to Akasha - prematurely, as they always had to to prevent the natural way that would disperse the soul into components.

Then Ciel was left with an imprint of Roa on her soul and his memories but none of his agency, the world shat itself, and healed her body to work again to prevent the paradox.

What always seemed weird to me was that Ciel regenerated shallow wounds and not just lethal ones, even though just getting stabbed shouldn't really cause an issue.

>>20006997
i finished fate/stay night and hollow ataraxia over 3-4 days and now I feel a pervasive and profound sadness and dare i say, emptiness inside

how do i remedy this

>>20058631
Read Fate/Zero if you haven't yet.

>install FHA with all the English patches
>start it up and get an error with a bunch of strange illegible characters
Was this a locale issue?

>>20058742
That, or you need to start it with administrator privileges.

>>20058742
please list all the patches applied. you may need to remove some duplicates or previously existing ones

>>20058028
Cute!

>>20058631
>3-4 days
Did you take all the branching paths and get all the Tiger Dojos? Seems unlikely in that period of time. Get 'em.

>>20059107
Super Type-Moon Kart when?

>>20043784
>hasn't read more than 2 routes
>arcueid has in the far side routes zero relevants
>sacchin is in every route somewhat of a role
Doesn't make much sense to me, specially the arcueid comparison. Sacchin is intended to be a loser, a useless girl, it was just never really explored besides on the far side routes a bit.Arc and sacchin are both vampires, sacchin is just the shitty one, her route would be probably even better than ciels and arcueids if you think about the conflict that would build up between arc, sacchin, shiki, ciel and maybe arihiko or even a unknown character.Don't underestimated sacchins role, don't forget that tsukihime is still unfinished

>>20058742
Delete the settings file
The file you downloaded has savefile path set as the one in the uploaders PC so it gives you a bug since the name of your folders are different
Also remember to watch the original OPs and ED, they have better music and visuals

>>20059919
yeah I even did the sparks liner high and mind of steel "endings" though I haven't unlocked all the meat chunks for the tiger dojo stamps. also hollow ataraxia crashes on some (non-story important) scenes so I can't get 100% or access the epilogue for some reason, its stuck at 98.8%

>>20062299
>yeah I even did the sparks liner high and mind of steel "endings" though I haven't unlocked all the meat chunks for the tiger dojo stamps

You didn't get the true ending, then. You need all 40 for Last Episode.

>>20062299
You're probably missing dojo 13.

>>20063463
I want akiha as my little sister.

Help me settle an argument. Is Saber a "borderline loli"? Should that even be considered a thing?

>>20064271
Saber's closer to a JC than a proper loli, but I'd consider her body more of a high schooler. So no, not even close to loli.

Has anyone here read these? Would they ever be adapted?

I remember I saw somewhere the iceberg meme (the one with all the "levels") with all the TM related things (manga, anime, LN and so on...). Does anyone have it?

Why do you think Type-Moon stuff resonated with you so much that you are now stuck in this general? Was Tsukihime or F/SN your first VN? Was it a specific girl? A setting or a kind of atmosphere?

>>20066772
To me it was the tone, the setting, designs and atmosphere. A lot of which I feel is gone now. The setting has been butchered with FGO shit. The slightly realistic yet still fantastical urban fantasy designs have been replaced with trashy new character designs. And the atmosphere is completely different now than how it was before.

>>20066647
It was pretty inaccurate to be honest. If you go a few months back in these threads you should find it.

>>20066772
Oh no, no. I'm mostly here to shitpost. I don't give a fuck about TM.

>>20067294
This thread is too slow for shitposting, so you must do /vg/ too?
Or are you just one of those /jp/ posters?

>>20066772
Yeah, it was one girl.
As it currently stands, TM doesn't deserve her.

>>20068839
Who

>>20063463
Pretty sure you just need all Good/True/Normal endings for all routes. I got Last Episode and I definitely didn't get all Tiger Dojos, maybe like 37/40.

>>20066451
Never looked into them myself until now. It seems they're only partially translated, also
>in order to explore a recently discovered sister planet to Earth named Nutella. Nutella is enormous in size, easily dwarfing Jupiter, and yet somehow it is mysteriously and magically linked with Earth.
Fuck me I want to live on the giant nutella planet.

>>20066647
>>20067291
Found it. It's a bit lame.

Will ORT ever be in a game?

>>20070037
Yeah, in FGO

>>20058742
I had the same problem anon changing my locale to Japanese fixed it

Also I’ve been talking about Fate in the FGO generals on /by/ this whole time had no idea this general existed, neat. Playing Hollow Axtaria right now really enjoying it.

>>20069244
what does Zvezda have to do with Type Moon?

>>20070676
they made it or are involved in it at least, i forget.

>>20069244
It's better that Mahoyo was kept off such a poor list.

>>20038874
nasu is like 50 years old or some shit at this point has been giving more and more of his franchise to other writers. the guy probably thinks theres a good chance he will just drop dead within the next 10 years.

>>20071289
People don't die at 60 in first world countries, anon.

>>20070037
why ever adress ORT when you can just make up new threats like beasts and velber on the spot every 5 years. oh and don't forget the lovecraft shit they put in, only to waste it on comedy events.

>>20071293
dying in you 60s in japan is pretty common due to their work culture, but it's not like that applies to our lazy fuck.

>>20071289
He's 44, anon. Even if he retired at 60 for some reason, 16 year is a very long time.

>>20048877
If you like that you'd probably enjoy that 17k word rant some BL autist wrote about how FGO is the end of civilisation

>>20072331
>17k word rant
Sounds like a true Nasu fan. Link?

>>20072652
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7876-%E6%98%87%E8%8F%AF%E6%BD%9C%E7%86%B1-(Latent-Heat-of-Sublimation)-FGO-Lemon-Hysterical-Screed

some of the most concentrated autism I've ever fuckin seen

>>20072723
of course it all comes down to eva.

>>20069244
Yeah it is, Carnival Phantasm should be in the second section, not the second to last.

Why is ORT just hanging out on Earth?
Don't Types have anything better to do?

>>20074319
Was Carnival Phantasm written by Nasu?

>>20074761

>>20067283
>the atmosphere is completely different now than how it was before.

Type Moon before
>Nasu announces Tsukihime remake
>the bombastic Nero vs Depletion Garden stuff they had in mind for Sacchin
>Nasu announces that Mahoyo book will be re-written into a multi-part VN format
>Fate/EXTRA and CCC was written by Nasu and considers it his Magnum Opus at the time
>Fate/Zero was written by Gen Urobuchi but the series was heavily supervised by Nasu to match up with the Fate lore
>They made actual fun games like Melty Blood, Fate/Unlimited Codes, or Fate/Tiger Colosseum
>Nasu: When I wrote Kara no Kyoukai, I felt resistance towards so many things—society, entertainment, culture—and it was my motivation to write the story. Now, I am thrilled to be writing from a place of gratitude, though with just a touch of sadness. It feels like the old Nasu Kinoko has passed on. I suppose you could say I've gone under a heavy detox, and feel much more virtuous now (laughs).

Type Moon now
>Tsukihime remake is forgotten and will never be released
>Only Mahoyo part 1 is released, the rest are in hiatus
>Fate/EXTRA sequels like Extella and Extella 2 are now written by someone else other than Nasu
>Last Encore was a bizarre re-telling of Extra (one of the worst things he ever wrote) with some haphazard new additions that fail to get strong developments (see Amari), and it was generally just very dull
>Fate/Strange Fake is not supervised by Nasu at all, he doesn't even care about it.
>They make games like FGO, FGO VR, and FGO Arcade
>gatcha that doesn't get good until Camelot
>alternate history 4th grail war except with shit servants and infinitely less interesting masters
>the anime based on the PSP game, except Shafted and somehow even less interesting than the typical 'anime tournament' bullshit that the game was
>In Part 1, they explicitly said 'We will finish the main story at the end of 2016. In EoR, they explicitly said 'we will finish EoR at the end of 2017'. For Lostbelt they have said nothing. They have no stated deadline, they have no obligation to the playerbase to get it out by any specific date
>Nasu: Out of all the players, I’d say that less than 20% of them have actually played Tsukihime, Melty Blood, Fate/stay night and Fate/hollow ataraxia.

Its an easy choice for Nasu

>Release more Mahoyo which people didn't really care about, hence poor sales
or
>Work on FGO writing contents you actually wanted to do since high school (heroes vs beast high fantasy shits), swim in money from whalebucks, get to do stuffs at your own pace

>>20074761
She's a dumb onee-san who got the message too early.
And probably no, they don't.

>>20074945
>which people didn't really care about, hence poor sales
Look, it didn't sell well for TM standards but for the market it was in it did well.
Comparing it's sales to stuff like SN is simply unfair.
An all ages VN released PC only has only such a large market, and it was a new IP, it didn't have much legacy to rely on.
That and it is overpriced for the length.
And it got delayed a few times through unfortunate circumstances.

>>20072723
I swear he has posted here.

>>20074945
>When I wrote Kara no Kyoukai, I felt resistance towards so many things—society, entertainment, culture—and it was my motivation to write the story. Now, I am thrilled to be writing from a place of gratitude, though with just a touch of sadness. It feels like the old Nasu Kinoko has passed on. I suppose you could say I've gone under a heavy detox, and feel much more virtuous now (laughs).
If you needed more motivation to start writing while you're still an angry young man, here it is.

>>20075698
And indeed, after some ctrl-f investigations, he is the guy I've had long arguments against here.
It's a shame, we agree on so many things.
I also figured he was an Ausfag too.

Shame, I cannot compete against such a person in writing.

>>20075698
idk if he has, i think he's a /lit/fag

>>20076170
He certainly is, but /lit/fags have been here.

>>20076184
Oh yes. Remember the recent "woe is me, I read VNs instead of Serious Literature" thread?

>>20076193
Maybe.

>>20076316
>>19949888

>>20076193
No, I don't remember this at all.

>>20076327
I did glance over that after it was linked here.

>>20074806
its good, so no.

>>20074945
nasu writes like 10% of fgo, most of the chapters are the other memers following his outlines.
I really have no idea what the guy actually does all day. oh wait yes I do, he writes material books and stuff like last encore :^)))

>>20018214
Is there a better version of this picture? One where you can see her elbow and the key in full?

>>20072723
Finished it, really makes you think.
Almost put me in an existential crisis.
Thankfully it really fits together by the end.

>>20076772
Tell us your thoughts about it.

>>20076772
Also do real the discussion throughout, it adds examples of the very points presented within.

>>20076776
For the most part, the dialogue was really obtuse, but suddenly lines would appear that made me instantly understand the former sentences.
In seriousness, it really does a great job of being modern Evangelion with arguably a more nihilistic outlook.
In the end, it doesn't really matter, you stop playing and the only thing to take from it is an apprehension to waste such time and resource again.

I learnt this lesson the hard way a few years ago, it relates on a personal level, but in retrospect instead of realisation.
It said things I wanted to say but had neither the words or patience to carry out.

>>20076793
And of course, it is always healthy to have a reminder about waifus being, well, waifus.

If mages try to only have one child, how does the mage population keep from disappearing over time? They're way below the rate of replacement.

>>20076632
He mostly play Bloodborn probably

>>20076924
New useless family are discovered, like Waver family I guess.

>>20076924
Through lineages like the Zenjou which don't practice magecraft but produce daughters with BOUNTIFUL WOMBS for guys like Tokiomi to marry

I know he's weak, but what servants does he have a high chance of beating one-on-one?

>>20077474
Everyone except Gil with the temple gate.

>>20077474
any duelist or one-on-one fighter with a sense of "warriors honor" has a decent chance of being defeated by him ( on even terrain)

keep in mind saber only won the duel because of stairs.

>>20069244
Thank you man

>>20069032
>It seems they're only partially translated
I thought it would be something like that. Just seems the series is never mentioned here. They don't look amazing but I might try reading what's been done so far

>>20006997

>>20079459
I want to hang out with Len!

>>20079382
I want to be Arc in that picture. The reason for this is because I have a crush on Ciel.

>>20020185
Nasu shills whatever came last. Extra and CCC are absolute garbage.

>>20045627
When he announced Tsukihime, he had recently write about it. He simply tried to get back to it but couldn't. Probably because he never loved it? He was motivated to use it to promote KnK which flopped originally, then KNK came out and because a hit which overshadowed Tsukihime.

Fate was his teenage fantasy project, Mahoyo and KnK existed as his first works when he started to write which could be polished, Tsukihime was in retrospect not something he held in a particular emotional attachment and was only a thing to remake as one of the two works that put his company in the otaku limelight. But most people moved to Fate which provides a more flexible setting and he's actually attached to.

>>20076632
>>20076930
Nasu and Takeuchi travel the world according to their blog

>>20080392
Dumb gays.

>2015/6/27: Final episode! (Kinoko)

I began by thinking that #25's script was "mostly original, so I should write this as a side story to the original [the VN] story."
And so I, Kinoko, was at my wits end trying to write something approximating a screenplay.

That's right. You know what I mean. In other words, I bit off more than I could chew again. Fuck!

Thus we drastically cut the parts that weren't needed for an anime... but the generous people at Aniplex said, "It would be a waste if all of your Nasu-san's work was cut, so let's include it as a special in the second box set."

Those of you interested in what was cut (Luvia's turn to shine and Luvia's turn to shine and Luvia's turn to shine, etc.) should check out the second box set.

On that note, the "stay night" aspect of Fate concluded with a splendid final episode.
But, I'm afraid to say that the Fate anime won't end yet. We're almost there, just a bit more, etc etc.

>tl;dr: Nasu's epilogue for UBW was cut down in the anime

Guys should I play the VN using the OG OST or the Vita one?

>>20080815
vita

why did the old kagetsu tohya have some shit already unlocked?

>>20080815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckc0LNUjF_Y
>WOMP WOMP WOMP WOOOMP~
That's all you need to know about the Vita "OST" (more like a glorified amateur remix CD).

>>20080931
maybe your download included a save file?

>>20080965
the new link is a fresh copy, while the old one had shit on it for some reason.

>>20080975
does it have widescreen support?

>>20080987
they both just stretch in fullscreen

What was the point of Bazett using a command seal to make Angra her arm?

>>20081306
portable dildo
>>20080931
vita
>>20080959
>cherrypicking

>>20081306
portable dildo
>>20080815
vita
>>20080959
>cherrypicking

>>20080959
Listening to this cracks me up every time.

>>20074806
it's based on a manga by the guy who did the Kannagi manga

Why is pre-FGO lore so interesting, bros? Also, what is everyone's thoughts on Strange Fake and Lord El-Melloi II Case Files?

>>20082223
>Also, what is everyone's thoughts on Strange Fake and Lord El-Melloi II Case Files?
both shit

>>20082223
>Why is pre-FGO lore so interesting
because back then we still had a world that was being build, instead of endless fucking singularities or muh dreams that follow no rhyme or reason and only exist to shit out new gacha characters?

>>20080433
that eiplogue was fucking horrible and went against everything the original vn ending stood for, and you're telling me he wanted to make it even longer?

jesus christ

>>20080134
I agree with you actually. the first few chapters of CCC are especially horrible because they cut out all the sakura five shit they had planned and replaced it with "rani doesn't wear underwear btw guys isn't this interesting as fuck? oh and rin likes money!"

>>20082427
>that eiplogue was fucking horrible and went against everything the original vn ending stood for,

explain

>>20082223
>Also, what is everyone's thoughts on Strange Fake and Lord El-Melloi II Case Files?
Both decent and fairly interesting, the authors at least understand what's interesting about the Nasuverse, as opposed to all the other new TM shit.

>>20082223
>Lord El-Melloi II Case Files?
Still on my reading list. Only picked it up because of this young lady.

Where the fuck is this year's TM Ace we're halfway into October already

catpanties

>>20088831
>>20088854
Delicious

>>20072723
FGO is just the symptom, not the disease itself, but it reaches further than just diluting the artistic expression. The frustration here is, as I read it, with many different interconnected things: the obviously exploitative game mechanics and the writing that cheekily teases you about them (c.f. the section The dead gods in the fic), the commodified nature of what little artistic expression there is, as well as (I think) with the incredibly derivative patterns of expression in today's society - everything being replaced with its representation and so on (c.f. The comedians of Babylon). Then there's also the frustration with the playerbase, or perhaps more aptly put, the consumers. So many of them seem aware that there is no reasonable defense of the gacha, and that they are trapped in a Skinner box, but yet they continue to perform the rituals. They seem to think that as long as they are aware that it is "problematic", or "flawed", and joke about how they are trash and how awful everything is, everything's just fine. They have resigned completely, unable to imagine any other reality and resorting to taking the destructive drugs despite knowing fully well that nothing good can come from it. As the quote that opens the fic points out, it is easier to imagine the end of the world than not rolling the gacha.

>>20072723
<Z>let us not believe this is anything other than the apotheosis of consumer choice
<Z>don't like her design? her personality? manner of speaking? the length of her hair? is she married in canon and thus unavailable?
<Z>don't worry anon
<Z>we'll make another version of her with the necessary adjustments
<Z>precisely because, as modularised components, characters are now things you can just fork off another version of – eg ALTERS – when you need
<Z>for a nominal fee, of course – even if F2Pers only invest their time, that's still opportunity cost

>>20072723
<Z>in the aeneid somewhere there's mention of an ancient punishment
<Z>in which a living person was tied to a dead body, the two facing each other, such that as the dead body putrefied the rot would eat into the living person and slowly kill them
<Z>this is an apt metaphor for the condition of man and his waifu in tyool 2018
<Z>in such an age as ours where the frozen image of the past dominates the present – which is to say, dead labour dominates living labour – death is in the air
<Z>schizoid fantasies manifest this inwardly, the will toward death
<Z>if you look at the things people ironically joke about killing themselves is way up there and keeps rising
<Z>the present situation is intolerable
<Z>industrial civilisation is already incapable of reproducing itself without keeping most of the population in an anti-depressant stupor
<Z>technics is on the road to obsoleting most of humanity, producing vast swathes of population reduced to bare life whose existence has value equal to zero
<Z>latent suicidiality exists wherever you go, why should your hobbies be exempt
<Z>tl;dr,
<Z>the endgame of waifufagging is necrophilia
<Z>because dead girls don't say no

>>20080392
>travel the world
Enjoying the whalebucks I see

>>20084930
It would be one of history's nice little ironies if she was picked to be a Master, given what has happened to her family Servant wise.

Sacchin BIG

What even is the point of this thread? The only new content is FGO shit

>>20090573
I mean, you don't need to come here if you don't like it.

>>20090224
The same guy who wrote the story from >>20048877 has similar thoughts on artistic expression in games as a whole, not just gacha. It is not that surprising that he is a former game developer.

>>20090573
my dad works at type moon and he told me tsukihime remake is cancelled and will be replaced with a special lostbelt collab chapter :)

>>20090573
>What even is the point of this thread?

Vintage Type Moon (pre-FGO) discussion

>>20092334
What is it with Nasu's fetish of powerful (on paper) magi being so predictably retarded and arrogant?
Mostly male, too.

>>20092544
because if they weren't all fucking retards it would make no sense for the world to still be so close to "normal"

Imagine 1000 Zelretches.

>>20090248
>the endgame of waifufagging is necrophilia because dead girls don't say no
Based and redpilled

>>20092334
Haha holy shit all the talk about Natalia's death, that's great.

>>20090238
>>20090248
Remember that isn't actually the end, it is on page 7.

>>20090248
><Z>in the aeneid somewhere there's mention of an ancient punishment
><Z>in which a living person was tied to a dead body, the two facing each other, such that as the dead body putrefied the rot would eat into the living person and slowly kill them
><Z>this is an apt metaphor for the condition of man and his waifu in tyool 2018

Virgil, Aeneid VIII 485-488
>Mortua quin etiam iungebat corpora vivis
>componens manibusque manus atque oribus ora,
>tormenti genus, et sanie taboque fluentis
>complexu in misero longa sic morte necabat.

trans. Dryden
>The living and the dead at his command
>Were coupled, face to face, and hand to hand,
>Till, chok'd with stench, in loath'd embraces tied,
>The ling'ring wretches pin'd away and died.

holy shit lmao

Holy shit that fight with G-Akiha is complete bullshit, I don't think I could beat her even in the easiest difficulty.

>>20098872
I gave up before I ever managed to beat her, but for some people it's apparently really easy.
What was most annoying was having to re-do Kohaku's fight for every attempt.

>>20098872
Rush to the corner of the stage at the very start, spam jumping kicks and hope for the best.

>>20098942
>>20098979
I found the hidden options menu, I set starting heat to 299.9%, set health recovery in heat mode to the max and increased the rate of heat gain to the max too, that along with decreasing the difficulty to the minimum should hopefully make me able to beat her.

>>20098872
I found it really hard but got it on like my 4th or 5th attempt. You need to be able to jump over her attacks and use a lot of jump attacks. Yes it is bullshit because you can't react to her attacks all the time but I managed to do it in the end. If I remember correctly I think I experimented with the idea of constantly jumping over her and crossing her up while attacking but I can't remember if that was the strategy I stuck with or not.

In HF, why didn't Kotomine use his command spells to keep Gilgamesh from harming Sakura?

>>20099254
He didn't actually care wether Sakura or Illya became the Grail. Also, he gets along with Gil.

>>20099254
>>20099288
Was Gilgamesh still his Servant in FSN?

>>20099897
You should play the VN. You are missing out.

>>20099915
That doesn't explain if Gilgamesh was still his Servant or an incarnated human.

20 years ago in October, two friends posted a web novel series titled "Takebouki." At that time, the duo just formed a doujin group. Little did they know, they would launch an internationally acclaimed franchise.

Honest thoughts on Type-Moon's first series is now better known as "Kara no Kyoukai"?

>>20100390
Flawed, uneven and frequently misunderstood work. Their most complex as some have suggested? I don't know about that. Behind the anime bullshit it's really a very simple story, perhaps too simple. It's about the possibility of connection in the alienated urban 'scape of post-Bubble Japan. A fan's first stab at writing in the vein of the Hyakkiyagyou novels he loved; you discern the childish smudges of finger-paint and maybe you find them endearing. I don't. In his most immature works Nasu is willing to be experimental in ways the later strictures of TM's brand identity will prevent. Not a great work. Arguably not even a good work. Plot is thin and inconsistent and troubled by irrelevant asides, characters are frequently shapeless puppets, caricatures - yet there's something there, some articulation of a tension in the young Nasu himself, a tension held fast in the notion of 'everyday life' between the possibility of happiness and its repressed and twisted underside, which was lost after Fate. Lost in grail wars and servants and world-shattering plotlines and bad jokes and endless amounts of anime tiddy served up by the gacha. Nothing else like it in TM. Few things like it in weeb shit generally.

>>20090573
>The only new content is FGO shit

Type Moon actually took time and effort into making Mahoyo, KnK, Tsukihime, and FateSN/HA detailed, compared to how characters are designed purely for sex appeal to sell faster nowadays in FGO

>>20100390
The webnovel reads like a some kid in middle school wrote it. The LN is better but it's a tad rough around the edges. Overall pretty good.

Does anyone here actually play FGO? I mean I wouldn't bitch about something so much until I actually get a feel for it

>>20101248
If by play you mean fap to doujins

>>20101248
Yes, I've played since launch. I hate it because I understand just how shitty it is, and how it's not a good successor to Nasu's past works.

>>20101248
I wish I didn't have to be even remotely invested in is.
All it pleases is my benis.

>>20101463
Then why do you keep playing something you don't enjoy? I mean are people that starved for TM content? I play FGO since I'm a filthy fucking Zero secondary and only read the VN after /a/ kept telling me to and somehow the whole thing sucked me in

>>20101497
>are people that starved for TM content
Yes, I am. I don't shill it or praise it in any way like some shit eaters do, but I am deep down the TM hole enough that I want to know everything that comes out and where they're taking the world/story.

>>20101574
I was like this until recently, but my interest has slipped enough that I'll only focus on the specifics that I care about.

>>20101612
I mean, I distance myself for a while too (quit FGO trash for a lot of 2016 and 2017) but it came back. I don't actually give a shit about any of the new characters or Servants in general, so I don't have to suffer through interludes or garbage events, but I do read through the main story still.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnVwcUhxt1k
hue hue

>>20103494
God I still fucking hate secondaries, even though I hate GOfags more.

>>20103494
>Prototype
>says only in OVA form
>while showing art for Fragments

>>20103331
>>20103338
cute
>>20103494
from the thumbnail alone i ain't even gonna bother

>>20103494
Good old Zerofags knowing fuck all.

>>20103494
>"So where do I start?"
>"Except that question."
Is there anybody this confused about where to start somebody on fate? The obvious answer is the VN.

>>20103494
I guess the opening monitors in the back were reflecting the current state of shit, of course normies would view that as not being a critical assessment.

Oyakodon!

>>20103494
Actually better than expected.
Still not great.

>>20104805
They could've had any character in the back, and it just had to be the very worst.

Do you think I'd like Fate and Tsukihime based on my few previous completed VNs?
I've finished and liked
>SnU
>Steins;Gate
>Higurashi
>Starless
>Clannad
>Danganronpa if that counts
I'm pretty new to this medium

>>20106785
Yes you would.
I also recommend Majikoi to anybody fairly new to VN's.

>>20106837
>Tactician protagonist
>Slice of life comedy
Majikoi sounds interesting, I'll add that. I'm off to read F/SN

>>20106844
I also added it because they share plenty of VA's.
Fate first is the right choice.

>>20104530
Am I still a secondary even though I read the VN after watching Zero?

>>20107547
No but you made the wrong choice and spoiled yourself.

>>20106785
Yes, for sure. Enjoy, anon.

Is mahoyo worth reading?

>>20107723
I'll admit knowing about Sakura and Zouken kinda took the fun out of Worm's Wild Ride, but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. Can't bring myself to plow through Tsukihime though. Maybe it's the lack of voices

>>20107973
If you're already a fan of Nasu's stuff, yeah, for sure.
Even if you're not, it's still a very impressive VN with amazing soundtrack and visuals.

>>20107973
If you can read nip, certainly.

>>20101248
I don't, but >>20072723 has made me want to.

>>20107973
whats the fucking point, it's never getting the sequels we were promised because they released they can just shit out fgo characters instead.

>>20110589
t.retard who hasn't read it

>>20104589
My question is, how is it supposed to be 100 hours? Even 100% competition is closer to 60.

>>20110616
I read it the year it came out and have been waiting for type moon to acknowledge it's existence ever since you fag

>>20110620
Yeah a lot of people misjudge how long FSN typically is. It's about mid length, not nearly as long as something like Umineko.

>>20108054
>/tmg/ says Tsukihime is better than FSN and FHA
>play it
>Arc, Ciel and Akiha are bad heroines compared to Saber, Rin and Sakura
>Shiki only sees Akiha as his sister and never develops any feelings for her. He's almost unable. Yet for Akiha's route alone he takes a total U-turn and decides to see Akiha as a woman after all
>no husbandos (Emiya, Archer, Lancer, Gilgamesh, Kirei Kotomine) for women to wet themselves over
>why are apostles acting so evil Atari?
>because they're bored!!!

Why is this so popular? The only Tsukihime route that stands out as good writing is Ciel's route. It felt like some sort of unpolished proto-Fate, the villains seemed like Gilgameshes mixed with generic traits here and there, the battles felt fast-paced and anti-climatic

>>20112337
Oh come the fuck on, this was from /vn/.

>>20112799
Actually /fgog/, 5 minutes before.
Sigh, do we really need to resort to this shit to have discussion?

>>20112873
>>20112799
That shit's been a pasta posted on those 3 generals for a while, dummy. It's probably the same retard who does it every time, just ignore it.

>>20112879
Nah, this is a different pasta, but the same guy always does this shit, that is well known.

This prologue bit is so slow, I'm really not enjoying it. When does the VN pick up?

>>20113283
Day 3, but then it slows down again. First route in general is a fairly slow introduction to the world/characters.

>>20113283
Mahoyo and Kara No Kyoukai are the best writing of any Type Moon project ever. Period. Tsukihime is edgy harem shit.

>>20113696
In terms of pacing, Tsukihime is still way faster than FSN overall.

>KnK novels
>better written than Tsukihime

>>20113696
KnK is pretty poorly written, the movies fix most of the prose issues.
Mahoyo is of course a reworked and refined work written by a far more mature Nasu.

>>20113696
>>20113979
>Mahoyo
It doesn't matter how well it's written because it's only 1/3 of a story that will never be finished.

>>20114384
I care, I'll wait forever.

Why does Nasu even write for FGO? The thing will shit out money no matter what he does and the thing's basically fanfiction that's contaminated by other writers anyway. He should just leave the other writers to it and concentrate on VNs and LNs because he's better at that.

>>20117378
He barely writes any of it anyway.
He only does climatic moments and the general outline of the plot.

New OP, please.