/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>19935850
Does anyone knows what happen to this guy?

>>19935872
what do you mean what happened that image is up-to-date the next episode hasn't aired yet

>>19935872
I'm under no illusion that this image isn't just some samefag so I can't find it funny.

>>19935887
it's pretty easy to find people like that so it's not hard to believe, but it isn't funny it's sad

>>19935905
So this thread in general. Good motivator, at least.

>>19935905
I wouldn't find it hard to believe but I remember someone randomly asking about the alleged guy in that screenshot a month ago, and that guy just randomly happened to be present in that thread and responded to it. He updated the screenshot and has been posting it regularly. It's possible it's actually some guy who's been struggling for years, but it's more likely to me he's a samefag.

>>19935872
I'm still here.

Is it true that if I skip more than one day on Anki, the algorithm doesn't work and I have to restart?

>>19935887
Thats the point, it's the same guy who makes no progress.

>>19936017
I mean the person who asked the question in the recent thread and then responded to it was a samefag and isn't the same person who struggled years ago.

>>19936013
You pretty much have to quit Japanese if that happens.

>>19936013
no. that doesn't even make sense. just catch up on your reps. spread them out over the next week or so if you have a lot.

>>19936003
Its not that hard to believe to be honest, he has obviously been here a long time. He probably lurks or just doesn't post the avatar so you don't know it's him unless he wants you to which, considering he makes like 1 appearance a year, is not often. Either way, it's more what he represents. Bad study habits and failure.

>>19936013
here's a secret: the algorithm doesn't work even if you don't skip a day
anki is not magic it's just helpful when used in moderation, read more

>>19936039
Wew, thanks. Stop spreading misinformation /djt/

>>19936006
proof that it's you?

香害

>>19936091
How do you prove something like that lmao

>>19935755
Under general options check show advanced options then paste the contents of https://foosoft.net/projects/yomichan/dl/fields.txt in the text box near the bottom of the page.
I wish I knew about this when I first started out.

>>19936110
You seem to have a different tone than our resident failure. But assuming you are, fuck off and study.

"Learn Japanese" they say
"tanoshii" they say

>>19936174
who gives a shit about names you'll be told how to say it if it's not as common as John Smith.

>>19936186
You're obviously not reading the asahi shinbun, every time i have to check the reading of the names.

>>19936203
fair enough but if it isn't a common name and they don't give a reading because it's a celebrity or politician or something i'd think google would be a better choice than a dictionary

Can anyone hear what she says is inside the bag?

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1PBx4N6uBOm

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF

In Japanese, スカルファック means putting your head in someone's vagina or ass. A false friend to watch for.

>>19936533
some kind of a potato maybe.

>>19936533
I hear 妹るかいくつか but maybe it's 妹のかいくつか. I don't know Japanese.

>>19936628
i think you might have saved me a lot of confusion in the future

>>19936533
ヤニー

What's the difference between 分かる and 解る

>>19936840
Add 判る while you're at it

>>19936855
no difference

>>19936840
https://chigai-allguide.com/%E5%88%86%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8B%E3%81%A8%E8%A7%A3%E3%82%8B%E3%81%A8%E5%88%A4%E3%82%8B/

>>19936855
you forgot 分る

>>19936533
ワインボトル

Is Tkyosam fluent in nihongo?

>>19936941
you should be able to answer this yourself

https://youtu.be/0hU7IezSAs8
Imagine being able to watch animu without subs in your childhood

>>19937008
those are some ugly ass 私s

>>19936941
lol no

>>19937008
It's painfully obvious they were not doing any substantial listening.

Any reading lists for Japanese pupils, particularly 小学校　level? Or at least give me some keywords to look for. They must have a bunch of children classics like we do in Europe with Pippi Longstocking, Little Prince, Mary Poppins, Jack and the Beanstalk, The Secret Garden, etc.

>Go to type 'bone'
>Forget you're still in Japanese keyboard
>End up with bone anyway

>trying to learn a language with meaningless words used only for "softening"
good luck

>>19937329
A quick Google search of 小学生向け本 gives this:
https://style.ehonnavi.net/ehon/jidousyo/2017/11/10_003.html

>>19937367
i think that perhaps that is a little bit of a strong reaction to a language that may be considered in many ways somewhat similar to our own but those are just my feelings on the matter at hand

>>19937371
From a cursory glance, I don't recognise any of these books. I don't know if I should or that's normal. I also wonder which ones are the most accessible to beginners. I guess I will have to check them out one by one.

>>19937391
It's a list of books recommended for children by children and if you can't recognize Charlie & The Chocolate Factory you should read example sentences in a textbook before you read any of these.

>>19937329
>They must have a bunch of children classics
Yes, of course. Pick out any of them from here -> https://vndb.org/v/all
Be sure to filter out the ones that aren't originally in Japanese

皆さん、寝られない。助けて。

>>19937423
Visual novels are crap, fuck off.

>>19937349
like magic

>>19937433
That's so 小学生 of you to say

>>19937433
what do you read

>>19937389
this triggered me

>>19937424
http://www.tainaidokei.jp/cure/

Are there any phone apps worth my time for learning nihongo when I'm taking a shit?

>>19937591
Epic for the win! I love this meme!

>>19937597
webmd constipation overview

What the fuck is 田中屋？

>>19937591
what are you trying to say?

>>19937597
there are a lot of good games you can play on and off in your spare time, like 青鬼 or ポケ森. you need a japanese itunes account for most of the good stuff though. also not all of the japanese on the english store are originally japanese, but you can check the developer website.

田中's shop

>>19937707
Who the fuck is Tanaka?

>>19937597
God tier: do your anki reveiws
good tier: APK of some japanese game
Shit tier: japanese "learning" apps like duolingo

>>19937749
lol

>>19937749
you've got something to say to me?

I'm trying to mine at least 10 new words/day. I found that core 6k uses a lot of words that mostly only appear in newspapers and stuff so I want to diversify (at the moment I'm doing 10mining + 10 core every day) Where is a good source to mine for new words? I'm probably N4-ish level and 1300 words into core 6k.

>>19937787
Read something interesting on the internet/txt
There's a bunch in OP

who is this melon head

>>19937821
thing is I don't really know what words should I mine and what words i shouldnt. I don't want to mine some obscure word that I won't see often. Guess i can check jisho and see if its a common word or not.

>>19937833
Don't mine it until you see it a few times

>>19937367
>meaningless
>what is pragmatics

more japanese cartoons live streams for you lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDAPeAAf_8
much easier to understand than ""real"" material

>>19937822

>>19937740
>he doesn't know うどん田中さん

>>19937865
im not a hero but doumo

Will the DJT library ever get an update?

>>19937744
any apk recommendations for absolute retard tier

>>19937833
I just mine whatever looks useful to me. If you really want to min-max though then I guess you'd want to leave out both the too common (you'll see these enough times just reading) and the too obscure chuuni shit.

>>19937862
I like you anon. no homo.

>>19937893
- Final fantasy games
- get drastic(DS emulator) and emulate literally any japanese DS game ( I actually never tried it with japanese ROMs so maybe it can't run them)
- same but gameboy

How deep where you into studying Japanese when you realized it was actually pretty easy if you really try and that DJT is 80% pesamistic shitters who will never git gud at anything because they spend more time in chat than studying?

>>19937963
why didn't you write your post in japanese

>>19937963
its literally just a grind, all quitters just expected instant results. one grammar point at a time lads

>>19937963
Having to dedicate hours a day over the course of a year to improve at a task is not easy. Simple maybe.

>>19937963
>日本語は難し
It's a joke, you cretin. It's barely any more difficult than other languages.

>>19937986
he's a big fat phony

>>19937963
I just watched anime and became fluent. Why do people even bother putting in effort to learn it?

>>19937963
0% of the way in. It's just a language after all

>>19938018
>I just watched anime and became fluent.
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xG-WwqhHBc

>>19934667
>Any way to make anki show me compuns in vertical
It is easy to do but only works on Ankidroid and maybe the iphone version of Anki. The desktop program has a bug making it not work as intended.
Any way, in the Styling section of the card type layout, create a class for your field. The below is using the default vocabulary field from the Core2k/6k deck:

.Vocabulary-Kanji {
-webkit-writing-mode: vertical-rl;
}

On the Front Template where the vocab is
change:
<span style="font-size: 50px; ">{{Vocabulary-Kanji}}</span>
with:
<div class="Vocabulary-Kanji">{{Vocabulary-Kanji}}</div>
That's it.

>>19937980
>dekinai
>NEET
that doesn't even make sense

>>19938062
Change it to something better then

>>19937986
It wouldn't get any replies

>>19937862
ありがとう、なにか見られたかった、浸漬時間

>>19938079
i don't have any photo editing skills
>hi im learning japanese
>a dekinai, just like you

newbie question: when did your brain start going from sound straight to かな rather than sound->romanji->かな？

>>19937963
I was smart enough to realize it was a meme about a week in.

>>19937833
>>19937902
this but also only things i've seen/heard 2-3 times unless i like the word and it seems like it would make my reviews more fun, those words are usually easier for me to remember anyway so why not

>>19938128
>romanji
>going through romaji at all
You will never make it.

>>19938134
If it's easy why do the both of you suck shit at it?

>>19938128
I never used romaji.. ever. Day 1 I learned hiragana. Same with RTK, only learn enough so you can start learning japanese, DO NOT hammer the english keywords into your head or it will just slow you down.

>>19938128
that literally never happened because skipped romanji.

>>19938149
I think you're projecting again.

>>19938128
how did this even happen to you i don't understand

>>19938162
Go ahead and prove me wrong.
https://vocaroo.com/

>>19936106
アポクリン汗腺！

>>19938149
まあ、僕は本物だけど。一番強いペラペラ外人になった。気持ちいい。

>>19938153

>>19938180
ロマーンジ

>>19938184
ローマンジ

>>19938205
ロマーノジ

>>19938163
So you guys all learned from audio guides with pictures?

already got my minimum input today, but it's been a couple weeks since I watched some a***t vlogs for motivation. might rewatch the b*********n one. b*n could be good too.

>>19938180
　ローマンコ

>>19938227
no i did the normal shit but when prompted with a sound i went from the sound to the kana, i didn't have to think of letters before i could get there, if it was taking me a moment to think of the kana i just repeated the sound in my mind

>>19936106

>>19938252
jesus christ anon censor that shit or say something more indirect like 膣【なか】

>>19938224
> ノ is ン with "no" '、'
this ones going in my book

>>19938227
I learned the sound of each hiragana and then linked them into my brain through repetition and practice. Then I did Anki with the rtk deck until I had a loose understanding of the 2200 kanji, then I deleted the english from it only use 音読み・訓読み readings and visualisations in my head. Now I'm doing core 10k in anki to build my vocab while taking breaks to ghost read with audiobooks and immersion. I'll be fluentish in about 9 more months. I can understand about 50% already in about 9 months I've already done.

>>19938270
the hell is that kanji

>>19938304
nvm figured it out.

>>19938304
shitty font. a lot of characters have been like that in this game. pretty sure it's 臭い though

>>19938298
has anyone ever struggled with either form of の though

>>19938301
fluentish here defined as complete shit

>>19938330
I'll be further along than anybody else got in 18 months. My technique is flawless.

>>19938325
there was nothing wrong with the font until 言

>>19938337
even if that's true you'll still be complete shit

>>19938338
臭 should have two lines in the box. didn't notice until the other guy mentioned something though.

>>19938337
how many months did you flawlessly waste before you started listening, and when will you start reading

>>19938346
oh shit i didn't either

>>19938342
I lived in Japan for about 8 years when I was a kid too, so I also have that. You on the other hand probably will always be shit.

>>19938384
Sure thing, come back in 9 months and own me with your fluentishness.

>>19938353
I started watching TV in japanese for years before I did any sort of serious studying. I'll start doing real reading around when I'm halfway through 10k core. Although I read childrens books when I go to bed at night.

>>19938384
from what you've said about your study methods it's clear that any prior exposure to the language is gone and you have no advantage

>>19938402
>I started watching TV in japanese for years before I did any sort of serious studying.
were you watching it or was it there because you should be better at listening than you claim to be

>>19938405
Not at all. Everything I learned in Japan I still know. Thats where I learned hiragana and katakana, and even hundreds of basic words (in okinawan pitch accent). When I got to america we lived in a Japanese community still in san francisco.

>>19938402
>Although I read childrens books when I go to bed at night.
You mean your mother reads them to you to make you go to sleep

>>19938449
We're not all 12

>>19938442
i have no idea how you can be so bad at listening when you spent 8 years in japan (even if you meant the first 8 years of your life), and years more in a japanese community

>>19938128
>>19938148
>>19938151
>>19938153
>>19938163
>>19938180

I've made a huge mistake

Mass-repliers should be perma-banned.

>>19938508
I don't really understand the problem. You see う, you think the sound in your head, then confirm if you're right by flipping the card. Alternatively you can use a shared deck where they include audio, and modify it to play the audio when you flip it instead of showing the romaji. But it's not really necessary.

roman字

>>19938519
I'm not sure. When I hear or read 学生 I think "Ga" "Ku" "Se" "i" then I recall the corresponding ひらがな

>>19938616
Why are you recalling any form of writing? You're supposed to recall the sounds.

>>19938648
I learned from the Heisig book, maybe that's why. Memenomics like ち=cheese being cut in in two (tsu) by a knife.

>>19938669
I learned from that book too and it has nothing to do with your problem. You look at a word in kanji and read the sounds directly. You're not supposed to recall either romaji or hiragana.

>>19938681
Wait, really? I've been annotating with furigana

>>19938669
>falling for the RTK meme
You are a fucking tool.

If you haven't done RTK you're not learning Japanese the right way.

>>19938616
The most important thing at first is being able to read kana strings accurately, it's fine if kanas don't just "pop up" in your head for now. Just read more

Any epic anime recommendations for maxing nihongo skills? I already have 10 days of raw anime so far (time not actual days) so what do you recommend?

>>19938730
hunter x hunter

>>19938727
>your comprehension of written Japanese will immediately skyrocket
why lie

Should I be memorizing every word's kanji stroke by stroke when going through Anki? I'm still beginning and I can recognize them but I get the feeling I wouldn't be able to reproduce their kanji in a detailed manner (which means I wouldn't be able to reproduce their kanji, period). If I've done the Kanji specifically in Heisig I can remember/write it mentally pretty accurately, but the same doesn't apply to ones I haven't had yet. I just kind of memorize the form (most of all for 10+stroke kanji).

Figures the RTKfags are the e-celeb scum. If everything in this world has some purpose, some grand plan behind its existence, then theirs surely is to show everything else, whether it be a slops bucket in a fried chicken stand, or the gunk behind the fridge, how fortunate it is not to be them.

>>19938730
てーきゅう

>>19938508
Is it working though? I think that card type should be fine

>>19938756
no for recognition cards, yes for recall cards but recall cards are a distraction as a beginner in the same way that rtk is a distraction for a beginner

>all these summer anime ending
I have a lot of anime to watch, been slacking lately

What's the best summer season anime?

>>19938794
Don't watch summer anime go watch flip flappers

>>19938841
I already watched that and regret the time wasted on it

>>19938901
I am sorry to inform you that you are too retarded to learn Japanese.

>>19938908
I am sorry to inform you that I already did learn Japanese. Maybe it's you who is too retarded to learn Japanese

>>19938128
I can't visualize kana, so it has always been romaji.

in this thread so far, link the top 3 most useful, relevant posts. Go

>>19938925
when i couldn't visualize kana there was no romaji involved it's just sounds my dude why would you visualize letters from the wrong fuckin language

>>19938927


>>19937810
>>19938748
>>19938841

top three most useful, relevant posts
>>19935872
>>19936941
>>19938727

>>19938927

>>19938794
>>19936106
>>19938958

>>19938959
>19938958
meant
>>19938959

>I forgot to do my reps for today
>Already drunk

Fuck. Should I attempt drunken Anki? I just do them tomorrow?

>>19938968
go do your reps

>>19938968
Delete Anki and watch some anime

>>19938968
What did you drink?

>>19938128
watashi nan'nen mae romaji wo hajimeta, ima demo riyou suru

pasakon IME mou daitai sonna kanji nano de yameru ki mo nai

>>19938968
I have not done anki in 4 months and nothing bad has happened, I think your fine. Just take lsd next time.

>>19938968
>>19938972

>>19935850
I read the whole of Yotsuba vol 1 today finding only 10 words and no grammar that I didn't know (which I then added to anki). What JLPT level is this

>>19938981
Manga isn't reading though.

>>19938981
N6 but yotsuba is N7 so it's time for you to read something harder.

>>19938963

>>19938987
Reading isn't reading

>>19938975
2 volumes of Yotsubato

>>19938991
what's the anime equivalent of bateman

>>19938981
Now read the other 10 vols

>>19938981
n6 since you have not read re:zero yet.

>>19939000
Checkd but I'd honestly rather read LNs because they have more words to learn

>>19939000
does anyone do this? i might go back and finish it for fun sometime but it became useless fast

actually thinking about it i'm pretty sure that i can read and comprehend romaji way faster than a page of kana and probably regular written japanese

it's basically a wholesale substitution of reading skill for listening skill and i was always better at listening anyway

>>19939009
I read it all in a couple days. Why would you stop reading something so good?

>>19939008
Read light novels because they are amazing and manga is trash not because they have more words.

When will you guys learn. ったく

I installed the epwing dictionaries from the guide, and it's a really nice way of having kotobank offline.
Are there any dictionary files that have individual kanji, so that I can replace kanjipedia.jp or kanjitsiki? Stuff that would be in the 康煕字典 don't show up in daijirin and koujien.

>>19938981
High N3 failing but putting up a fight N2 level

>>19938998
Wish I knew.
>>19939010
>tfw beginning Japanese and trying to suppress romaji inner brain Tourette every card you review in Anki

>>19935850
do i need to know decent amount of japanese to pick up girls in japan or can i go with pure english

>>19938987
What about tsugumomo? It uses a lot of obscure terms.

>>19939044
How attractive are you.

When I go to japan I just grunt at girls, and they call the cops.

>>19939044
Just hit em up with the old ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki, works every time.

>>19939044
Even if you knew Japanese, don't speak in it. People would just assume you are some dweeb or even worse -- a weeabo -- and they will ignore you completely. Your social status will plummet to the level of a mushi.

>>19939010
when i encounter spaces in my japanese i read slower, so kana without spaces is better than romaji

>>19939064
what if i want a wife, how long do i pretend i don't know japanese, until after marriage?

>>19939072
You start to show interest in the language after you are seriously in a relationship.

having JLPT levels live in your head is a symptom of dekinai, there is no cure.

>>19939088
i don't have the patience to pretend to learn it too, when is the optimal time to say surprise i'm fluent

>>19938977
romaji is so ugly now

>>19939067
doyoualsoreadenglishmorequicklywhenthetrarenospaces

>I have sat in on a group of intermediate learners (who were late in Tobira or had finished it) reading the Yotsuba manga together as a study group and although they didn't have to look up as many words as you're describing, they really had no idea what the characters were saying. They misinterpreted the majority of every page they read. They all missed pretty much every joke and instead thought that their own mis-readings were jokes, and things like that. So... I don't know.
Is reddit getting based

>>19939107
roman letters are equally ugly whether they're arranged in english words or romaji syllables and nobody goes out of their way to say english is ugly

>>19939126
Wrong.

>>19939134
about english not being ugly or about romaji being uglier than english

>>19939104
There is no hope for you, my dude. It's normal for an Englishman to learn French or for an amerimutt to learn German, but there is literally no excuse for a Westerner to learn Japanese, unless they are a super nerd or, god forbid, a *eeaboo. If you show proficiency in the language from the very start, you will only attract women interested in these kinds of men, i.e. garbage themselves.

>>19939115
it's not that lack of spaces makes me read faster, but for some reason spaces in japanese fuck me up, like my brain turns off for a moment at each space

>>19939139
Romaji is ugly, English is fine

>>19939119
would be more based if it wasn't preceded by
>If you're struggling that much to read even a single page, it's too early. I would hate for you to get totally burnt out and frustrated with that approach.

>>19939126
a word written in english can be especially ugly
almost all japanese words written with roman letters are ugly

>>19939147
do you also shudder in revulsion when you see dekinai rather than 出来ない

>>19939152
how does one see "intermediate" textbook drones unable to read yotsuba and determine that the answer is that they are reading too early
oh right reddit

>>19939141
i wouldn't be attracted to a woman that doesn't have a waifu anyway

>>19939160
I just started and don't know what that means. I'm mostly trying to erase years of romaji from my brain. I don't really think any language is ugly. Well I think Viet is kinda gross looking

>>19939178
No problem friend, just grab a coffee and a volume of your favorite incest ln and you will be all 大丈夫

>>19939161
you can't see one stupid answer and rule out an entire community though. /r/learnjapanese can be useful, their discord, for example is an amazing place to ask questions/get corrected since everyone here would meme you

>>19939190
I figured I would start with eating doujinshi before ln's those are probably easier right

>>19939194
Sorry for insulting your lord and savior nukemarine.

>>19939206
As long as it is incest you should be fine.

>>19939174
I fucking hate weaboos. Those goddamn obsessive bastards who wank over anime and worship every aspect of japanese culture, despite the fact that they've never even been to Japan. Here's a spoiler for you; Japan ain't that great. It's just a fucking country like every other, and guess what, most Japanese people are openly racist, so chances are if your some fat geeky faggot who is studying Japanese so you can move there to feel accepted, you're gonna get a huge fucking shock. If you aren't accepted in your native country, you sure as hell aren't going to be accepted in the racist harsh society of Japan.

I tried to study Japanese at Uni last year, but the class was full of geeky virgins who called themselves "otaku" (which in Japanese basically means 'basement dweller', 'lurker' or someone who is just generally anti-social and obsesseive) which I never fucking understood. And all they talked about was anime and manga. How the hell am I supposed to have a meaningful conversation with someone, when their entire life revolves around anime? I mean, I don't mind anime. It's ok I guess. But at the end of the day, it's just fucking cartoons. Why don't you see people getting obsessive over English cartoons? Do these cartoons suddenly become super-awesome just because they're in Japanese? Jesus christ.

Out of the 20 people in my class, 17 of them are anime freaks/otaku/weaboo, with only 3 normal people including me. This is too fucking much. It's just impossible to talk to these people, and they don't go out and party, drink, drugs or anything interesting. I got invited to one of their gatherings once, I was told it was a house party, but when I arrived they were all just sat around a PC watching japanese music videos and playing DDR on a PS2... sigh. So I got a couple of drinks and quickly vacated that piece of shit "party". It was a friday night too. Fucking loser freaks...

Rant over.

Pic not related either, nor is it me so fuck off you weaboo shitbag.

>>19939229
in the context of sex is 「まだ?] like is it good for you?

>and they don't go out and party, drink, drugs or anything interesting
God what a loser.

>>19939246
thought this was fresh for a second
don't worry i smoke weed so i'm one of the cool weeaboos

>>19939246
Why are you learning Japanese?

>>19939249
Nevermind this is full of Kanji I don't know. What's the best way to look up Kanji that I can't highlight?

>>19939246
>and they don't go out and party, drink, drugs
>Why are X type degenerates not Y type degenerates like me?
You're all fucking degenerated m8

>>19939305
google translate handwriting input and then copy and paste to jisho or whatever dictionary you use
hope you're ready to get fast with a mouse

guys, I think I'm ready to make the jump to J-J dictionary. Which one should i use?

yoshi time for reading

>>19939314
スーパー大辞林

>>19939246
>DDR on a PS2
Update your pasta next time

>>19939308
Thanks mate. And if you don't mind how do I do the plosive mark/voice mark and stuff like the little よ and　や in IME?

>>19939352
>implying I keep track of the latest manchild fads

>>19939357
Wait I'm stupid. Ignore the first part of that question.

「お前は知らんようだが、欠片の集め方にもルールがある」
is 知らん infliction of negative 知る ?

>>19939381
isn't just casual form of 知らない? I'm surprised that what you have trouble with not the second part o fthe question.

>>19939049
A manga using a lot of obscure terms does not make it reading.

what the fuck do all those "nyas" and "ryas" mean?

disregard the highlights

Here we fucking go lads, 9 days left and i'm done with RTK.
or rather i guess done with new cards, there'll be plenty of reviews for months.

see boys, this is why we recommend yotsubato for the different dialects

>>19939404
good job, now you can start learning japanese

>>19939357
generally you type approximately the sound you want with some exceptions, but you can type isolated small kana as well with the x or l prefix if you want something like a sentence-final っ. some of them are less intuitive, such as てぃ. the only thing i can think of not on this table is the real we/wi are wye and wyi.

>>19939418
Yep, just a few more days and i can start with grammar.

>>19939427
どうも

>>19939443
oh, and if you haven't figured it out already, you normally get っ by doubling the following consonant, i.e. datte だって

>>19939451
yeah I was stuck on this for a while. Thank you again.

>>19939403
には
ければ
Watch more anime.

>Oooh Japan is such an honorable society! They respect their elders, and have such reverence for their parents and family!!!
>word for "father" is literally the same as "tits"
Nice meme Japan

>>19939499
倒産

>>19939499
遅々

What the fuck is up with ex-pats in Japan who try gate keeping Japanese so hard. They shit on everyone learning the language unless they're N1/N2.

>>19939526
They're just the 内est guys on the block, pleb. It takes a lot of skill and social acumen to consistently pick up Hanakos at the HUB like they do. Stay mad.

「強引に削り取るには、相当に弱っていなくては、そのような目に遭うのがオチなのじゃ」
What's the point of te form here? why not just end it with a ない instead of なくて

>>19938987
If I could have one wish granted it would be for you to get cancer.

>>19939570
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/grammar/dojg/dojgall.html#intermediate%E3%81%A6%E3%81%AF

>>19939026
Give some example kanji that you couldn't find in kojien.

日本語は難しい

>>19939648
が、楽しい

I just misread 室内 as ちつない. Am I going to make it?

>>19939667
が、難しい

>>19939581
Looks like you need to calm down by watching some manga.

>「早くイツて。。。」
Is Itsute a name here?

>>19939703
ネバーギプアップ

>>19939716
you wouldn't switch back to hiragana in the middle if so. you probably misread イッて.

>>19939743
...goddamnit. ok thanks.

>>19939710
モア

>>19939703
>>19939727
might have to give up the hentai though

fucking based

>>19939862
いやいやいやいやいや

>>19939606
For example, 亙 doesn't show up at all. I'm looking for explicit notation of 異体字, which kanjipedia is good for.
For example, kojien correctly tells 纛 but not 鬯. There are occasionally (同) notations, but it's not always the case.

>Now I'm behind schedule for my target of N4, which wouldn't have happened if I had taken it slower and let it sink in.
why do these fucks care about jlpt holy shit

>>19939953
It's a good way to gauge your progress. It's usually people who take Japanese as a University course that take the test. Not everyone learns Japanese exclusively for VN, some people want to work towards JLPT levels so they can more easily get jobs with N3-1 requirements. (Speaking for a friend ;))

>>19939974
i doubt most are taking it for employment, at least the people who post about it online. my guess is they have no sense of their improvement because they don't consume native material. hopeless

>>19937677
Tanak's Udon Shop

minna genki?

>>19937677
the proper tl is udon de la tanaka btw

Do you guys think that shop belongs to Romeo-sama's family?

romeos irl last name is prolly tsuda

There's a Japanese dungeon crawler game on Steam called Labyrinth of Refrain that you can play completely in Japanese. It's also been cracked if you don't want to pay for it

I'm sure that's his real name. His parents christened him Romeo because they knew their son would go on to rival Shakespeare as one of the greatest wordsmiths of all time.

but he was originally hajime yamada until he decided to get serious about being the greatest hentai game writer of all time

Exactly, after he wrote Kazokei he realized he had grown into a writer worthy of his name and decided to drop the alias.

im pretty sure he was just smoking weed one day and it just came to him epically

also im pretty sure that sick pro hentai writer from shokomeza is actually romeos self written cameo like some stan lee shit ftw

いやになったんじゃないよ

ただ

しっぱいしたくない

やっぱりやめときゃよかったって

おもいたくない

　 　 キマリ

Why is there a samefag in the thread talking to himself about some random guy

i literally just got here posted minna genki and it was romeo time right away fsr which owns

>>19940116
that show owned bro ftw

genki desu

>>19940056
>that smug face

>>19940245
She literally owns you in the game

>>19938727
Where exactly the fuck are you ever going to encounter a word where it's even slightly likely that either of these could be mistaken for the other?

Vocab is king because when you learn a word, you now have something to latch onto and associate the sound/kanji with. If you see 平原 and already know the words 太平洋 and 草原 you have multiple reference points to try to reach for those meanings and readings. Of course it sucks at the start because you have a shitload of new things to learn, but it gets easier and easier with each passing day.

The 週末・未来・未遂・末期 ・未満　thing 100% averted by learning those as whole words.

Anyways once your vocabulary is decent it's pretty cool to have Kanji explained in a bit of a recursive way.　たとえば：熱波とは波のように来る熱さ。This really signifies your arrival into the intermediate world.

you literally lost the game

>>19940056
Pic related

>>19940591
I like her armor.

>>19940596
She has high dodge stats so it makes sense

>>19939003
where is that re:zero deck at

>>19940768
Download it from here: https://ncode.syosetu.com/n2267be/

nice virus

Hey guys I'm a self assessed N2 I can get a job in Nippon ez right?

in a conbini maybe lmao

あめりかのバーベキューしらべているうちに

うしのおにくも

たべようかなあとおもいます

たっかいけど

You can no longer post unless you are fluent see you in 2 years

>>19940926
getting a job in a conbini as a foreigner is harder than getting a decent job in an office somewhere desu
most companies are (rightfully) concerned that nips will be confused and flustered if they see a foreign looking person behind the counter

>>19941536
So I’m the only one that can post

>>19941568
Have you been to Japan? I've seen plenty of arabic-looking people behind the counter in konbinis around Japan.

>>19941653
>I've seen plenty of arabic-looking people behind the counter in konbinis around Japan.
Did that make you feel more at home?

>>19941660
How about you answer His question, smartass?

>>19941683
Watch your tone with me, *diot.

>>19941653
where? I went to japan twice and I never seen an arab(tourists yes, but not immigrants). I seen some thai muslims though.

>>19941719
can't remember exactly what city it was but I vividly remember an Arabic looking guy with an Arab name on his tag in a Lawson's, plus more minorities. Might've been Tokyo.

>>19941772
all bets are off in tokyo

IGHT WHICH ONE OF YOU NINJAS DID THIS

あめりかの

うしさん

１キロ１５００えんだった

たかーい

>>19942064
アメリカの

ジョンさん

１５００キロだった

すごーい

1 kilo of what

>>19941568

>いらっしゃっ〜
>おい、ゴキャッ貴様！なんにしたいっかいでゴザロウ？
>っくく、ゴ弁当セット３、悪くない選択でゴザロウ。
>たった７５０円ぐらいでゴザル、払ってっコイ！
>このままでいいかい？

>>19942135
うしbeef

かぞえかたはたぶん

１枚、２枚

beefってえいごだとおもったら

フランスごなの？

wish there was a deck for japanese expressions. would make reading manga a lot easier.

Yeah but, you know...

...manga isn't reading

>>19942681
まんがを　よむのは　よみではなけど、たべるのようですと

おいしくないんだけど。

またこのちんぷんかんぷんかよｗ

do you guys ever have to see kanji next to other kanji in order to remember the difference, or am I just a brainlet?

>>19943061
No, because I study vocab and not individual Kanji

>>19943087
I don't study individual Kanji either. But I still get fucked up if kanji are visually similar, and I will stay fucked up until I see them side-by-side so I can finally distinguish between them.

Studying vocab vs individual kanji isn't really relevant to the problem.

>>19943106

未満
末期
未来
週末
未遂
戦士
土曜
土壌
博士
壊す
懐かしい

Wow it's fucking nothing

Learn words. Read them in context. Time and exposure will solve all your problems.

>>19943154
烏と鳥は

どっちかかえたほうがいいとおもう

>>19943171
カラスはカナのほうがいいと

>>19943154
None of those you posted are remotely similar, just different orders. That's not what I'm talking about.

>>19940605
but does it come off?

>>19943154
thank you RTK

>>19943250
Play the game to find out

what's the difference between しか and ばかり?
what's the difference between よう and みたい?

Anyone know what happened here? This card (which I definitely saw before) got its date set to a weird value and it's not showing up anymore. It must be a bug. Any way to reset it?

>>19943473
highlight card, edit, reschedule, place in review queue. then you can review it.

>>19943490
Thanks a bunch. I wonder how that happened.

>>19943531
you probably pressed some weird keyboard shortcut while reviewing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpOTvqWeL_w

>>19937986
このスレの連中は大体サボったりボーっとしたり後ろ向きのクソ野郎だったということを気づいた時、自分の日本語の勉強はどこまで行っていた？

where do I find conjugations for specific counters besides Tae Kim? I look only for ~期

>>19943889
conjugations for....counters...??? what? you conjugate verbs

do you mean which ones are pronounced funny like ippon and nihon or sanbon and yonhon?

btw whats the counter for chopsticks?

>>19943918
counters are called 助数詞 "josuushi"

find the word you want on jisho.org, then ctrl+f it on the wikipedia article for counters

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8A%A9%E6%95%B0%E8%A9%9E

jerk off a man....teach a man to jerk off, etc

>>19943935
ok its zen

>>19943903
yes, I meant declination of the numbers before counters

>>19943935
I don't see the counter 期

>>19943935
https://www.benricho.org/kazu/
Benricho is pretty good too.

2 weeks of reading 2 hours a day and i was told it was going to get easier but it hasn't???

imagine being that cucked

>>19944041
Surely you understand slightly more now than two weeks ago. Now do it for a couple years and you'll be able to delude yourself into believing that you're good.

>>19921728
there's an updated timeline by Matt, you just need to pay $5 for it

>>19943981
conjugations are for verbs, declensions are for nouns. counters in japanese are something altogether different.

i dont mean to be an ass, but perhaps you'd like to not seek parallels to western languages while you learn japanese, it might make learning a bit easier. at least it did for me

>>19944084
im pretty sure khatz doesnt even make content and try like matt does because he just knows japanese and makes a lot more money being a functional human who btw knows japanese ftw

btw can someone link the matt x yogay sextape

>>19944123
declination is for nouns and numerals are subgroup of nouns
just answer my question faggot

>>19944098
>>19944041
this. before i came to japan i thought i was so good at japanese because i could hold a conversation. a year later i look back and think of how much i have learned

language isnt something studied, its something used. reading doesnt involve you generating any new synaptic links in your brain because you are trying to merely read sentences, not formulate them. if you want your reading to get better, i suggest you write

>>19944138
fuck off nigger, this language isnt for you

>>19944140
i remember when i used to try to tell the djt scrubs this and they always said durrrrrr i jjust wana read hentai games xddd lmao

>>19944146
no n word dude

>>19944146
>this language isnt for you
said some fucking loser on /djt/, who cares

Should I be making a tae kim deck? I'm remembering maybe 1 of these verbs and nouns after I move on to the next lesson

>>19944102
so users who pay less than $1 basically get no content? this is pretty smart, because even though you can pay minimum $1 to be in the club, you are basically forced to pay $5 to get most out of it and people basically treat that higher cap as a minimum now

>>19944098
>Surely you understand slightly more now than two weeks ago.
it's hard to tell but i genuinely don't think so. i haven't learned any more basic grammar concepts or anything. i'm still looking up every word. i'm still triple-checking what the て form is doing in this situation. i'm still spending 2 minutes mulling over whether から means "since" or "from" or "after" in this situation, etc. nothing feels like it's changed at all. i'm still looking up every single word, i'm still not getting what と is doing in virtually any situation besides "and", i'm still not getting why the words are ordered the way they are and which word is connected to which word, which phrase is modifying the other phrase, etc.

i keep getting told i should read more but i feel like i'd be better off just drilling grammar guides for a couple months and then going back to it. i wonder if the people who recommend reading more even practiced what they preached in the beginning or if they studied for the first few months and then started reading, and underestimated the benefit of the study they had done. or maybe they did practice what they preached but they just kinda suck ass compared to people who did study, but they're more accepting of their suckiness.

>>19944197
don't, you will get the grammar once you start reading which you should do after you read the whole grammar guide

>>19944200
if you really WANTED to learn Japanese you wouldn't have asked yourself such dumb questions
obviously you need more time, maybe there are simply no new grammar points in the mediua that you use in particular
it's not a fucking race, you won't learn Japanese anyway

/DJT/ will be assblasted as fuck, can't wait another few months for this to happen

>>19944215
>Currently, thanks to all of your support, I am able to create multiple videos each month (you guys are amazingly awesome!). But the more support I get, the more of my life I will be able to dedicate to creating content!

He's been literally posting the same amount of videos whether he got $1000 or $2600. This dude is the laziest jewest mastermind ever.

>>19944210
>maybe there are simply no new grammar points in the mediua that you use in particular
it's just a VN but it uses a lot of different grammar points. i just can't understand any of them, and reading isn't reinforcing any of them.
>it's not a fucking race
of course not, but beginners are supposed to make the most progress right? and a lot of people in these threads claim reading is the best way to learn right? then why isn't reading doing anything for me? it seems like another case of advanced learners projecting their current experiences onto beginners. you already know so many words and understand so many concepts that context makes it easy for you to infer the meaning of a word or grammar point and remember it. but i'm not getting that luxury.

>>19944228
even if you have a point what difference does it make? you have to keep on going if you want to learn Japanese
you'll get the grammar points but you need more exposure to them + read explanations on them

which grammar points don't you understand? inb4 shit like saying one must or mustn't do something

>>19944242
>which grammar points don't you understand
pretty much everything tae kim covers with the exception of a few subsections.

>>19944200
I didn't do any exercises but I made sentence flashcards while I was going through Japanese: The Manga Way. It wasn't unnecessary but it helped me remember grammar points without looking them up in the beginning. Vocab cards on the other hand were critical to me.

>>19944249
so you don't get must mustn't either?
reread Tae Kim is my recommendation

>>19944252
> It wasn't unnecessary
I meant, It wasn't necessary

>>19944252
the more i try to "just read more" the more i feel like sentence cards would be a huge benefit so i might try it. building off sentences you can already understand seems like it would help a lot. i don't get why i've been told so many times that sentence cards are bad.

>>19944266

>>19944266
I used a couple hundred sentence cards for grammar but I'm one of the people who recommend against them for learning vocabulary, if only because they take too much time. I mean, I've got almost 19K vocab cards, there's no way I could do that many sentence cards.

>>19944258
i can't remember what the words are. reading hasn't reinforced them.

>>19944293
nobody will fix your head issues for you but you yourself

>>19944266
I tried sentence cards but stopped very quickly.
With those cards, it always felt like I was memorizing the connection between that particular sample sentence and the particular answer (or translated sentence), instead of learning the grammar point - a total waste of time and effort.

>>19944309
yea. i'm going to reread tae kim and maybe even mine from it.

>>19944274
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1oaOyng8TRO

>今日からいいが...
"Starting today..."
What does the いいが contribute here? How does it change the meaning?

just shakin my head at above post

>>19944385
it's gonna be a spicy day

>>19944385
今日 から は 良い が (but...)

日本語は難しい

日本語は逆に超簡単だぜ

>>19944336
If you've already been through Tae Kim try Japanese: The Manga Way. It is better despite whatever preconceptions the title might give you.

>>19944496
t. VNonley anon

winners guide to nihongo:

vjg
10000 hours of anime subbed in english
interact with japanese in various circumstances and contexts encompassing a wide variety of topics across all media platforms for about 20000 hours
profit ftw

>>19944496
ultimate goal is 日本語の森 so you can learn mid to high level grammar in Japanese.

>>19944520
1. I haven't read a VN in years
2. VNs are written in the same Japanese as other fictional content
3. If you can read fiction well you can also read non-fiction with very little trouble
4. The coverage of Tae Kim and JTMW is essentially the same

winners guide to nihongo:

close djt
close r*ddit
stop watching e-celebs
go learn nihongo

>>19944556
thats more like the prereq to the winners guide to nihongo

alternatively you just need one of these to undo all the permanent crippling youve done to your japanese that you havent even learned yet as a result of being on the modern internet in any capacity

i just realized theres people itt that werent even alive when this movie came out ftl imagine being too young to get this ref "yikes"

>>19944546
japanese language's forest?

>>19944586
everyone knows this ref, I'm 22 and I "got" it.

>>19944084
that's not a lot of money

>>19944606
it's a youtube channel that explains grammar and other shit in japanese, they try to keep it simple though

>>19944586
i know who adam sandler is

can you honestly say you can understand this at anything beyond the surface level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUpiy1RVGq4

>>19944706
I consider myself english fluent ( I have read multiple english novels as watch all my movies without subs) But I can confidently say I can't understand everything notorious B I G or Eminem say in their raps. It's plenty fucking normal.

>>19944706
lmao why does he sound like steve urkel

>>19944809
i like the idea of this but he doesnt actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G1lp7ZSkXA#t=277

>>19944790
>rap
you're not missing out on anything.

>>19938051
Very late, but this does indeed work for the iOS version as well.

>どんな時も

what does this mean? "anytime"?

>>19945003
It doesn't overlap completely with the true meaning, but yes something like that.

>>19945014
would it have the same meaning if it was でも instead of も?

>雨が上がったせいね
>せい
you what?

>>19937963
right after reading this post