/jp/ - Otaku Culture

173.50.148.225
WC Wireless

Uh, GG I guess.

>>1981374
Rehosting

What? Did someone call me?

99.224.216.201
east coast

>>1981374
So it's good for melty blood netplay then!

bampppppppp

Bumping for hosts.
Hitting the relay up.

>>1981856
Ask! and thou shalt receive.

67.182.231.59 mid west
shit tier

76.185.255.179 midwest lol wut tier

bump

>>1981892
sorry brah, gotta stop for now, i dont mind losing but waifus back

>>1981828
still hosting

>>1981875
got really laggy at the end for some reason. ggs.

>>1982137
yea, and ggs

Bump for host.

I guess I can go a few rounds.

/r/ east coast host (lol I rhymed).

>>1981834
I've never had any problems with it honestly, but once out of every 10 matches or so, it does spike, so some people flip out and start bitching.

24.201.7.153 EC

>>1981374
Rehosting.

WC 169.232.121.232

Any Australians on? Not much point trying to play with anyone else.

>>1982517
Gotta love wireless.
GGs.

GGs dude. You deserved to win a lot more of those Akiha/Shiki matches.

83.86.121.152 EU

;_;

>>1982710
the 7 delay was... interesting. ggs

Good game.

>>1982908

Oh yeah I was the dude who used Shiki,Hisui/Kohaku etc..

anyone still playing?

>>1982710
ggs

>>1983070

ggz

>>1983073
oh BTW the reason I had to stop playing at 7 was because my roommates were going to sleep, nothing to do with the game itself

>>1983076

all good either way. i was playing sloppy, guess i need to practice more

92.37.115.147 EU/EC
Shit tier

>>1981828
hosting

WC 169.232.121.232

>>1986090
2 delay yet wayyyyyy too laggy

24.2.138.130 ec horrible frames on a shit computer

>>1986090
...Why is it that everybody except me is fucking amazing at this? And there's no way in hell that was delay 2; I've gotten better framerate on delay 7.

>>1986120
meh it's just playtime. The hours I've put into playing and practicing this game is too sad.

>>1986127
Out of curiosity, why did you occasionally just stand in the corner and spam A?

>>1986132
I was checking if the lag would stop

>>1981374
Rehosting yo

>>1981875
hosting. still very shit tier. please be gentle.

24.150.91.103 EC

>>1986171
67.182.210.228

>>1986196
guh, kinda laggy there.

>>1986242
Very much so. GGs anyway.

>>1986182 here.
GGs. Your Ciel is bloody quick.

GGs. Learn where the gaps are in other character's pressure strings and cover your ass on jump-ins.

>>1986090
ggs

>>1986265
Meh. My Ciel is too spazzy. Most characters that aren't Kouma can actually punish her on the whiffed 5CCs

>>1981374
Rehosting

>>1986182
rehosting

>>1986271
gg's sorry about my lack of blocking I'm gonna go ahead and blame this shit controller

WC 169.232.121.232

>>1986279
So... What does it feel like to win against a human opponent?

God I suck... I should just stop.

Seriously guys. Out of 92 matches, I've won 6. Meltybread doesn't have shit for a beginner, and neither does google, so I'm just going to stop playing. It's just too depressing to rape the computer sideways, and then never get a hit in when I try to play online.

>>1986399
If you can't enjoy losing, then a 1vs1 game where someone will always lose is just bound to frustrate you. So, walking away might be the best course of action.

I mean, you might enjoy a fighting game that's less combo friendly (IaMP, maybe? I'd say SWR, but it still needs some patching), but even then, you'll still lose most of the time against players that have a lot more time invested. That's how the genre usually goes.

If you do wanna stick with it, then maybe check youtube for some tips and ideas. Searching for MBAC basics comes up with a lot of combo guides and such, for example.

>>1986286
ggs

>>1986443
If just losing was enough to completely put me off, I wouldn't have gone through 96 matches. I'm just having a really shitty day, and was hoping for at least one or two rounds today.

Is it normal for an 18-some-odd combo to take out less than what a single attack from a different character does to me?

GGs. Lag was fucking me up something fierce with Nero though. Shield, you damn slow fucking brute. Shield.

>>1986454
Depends on the attacks and the situation. Ciel's Ex-Halo does about 150 if you OTG it, but does around 2k if you hit with it normally.

>>1986454
What char are you using?

And I see the problem, 96 matches. Progress won't show in a day, just play sparingly over time.

>>1986459
I use Nrvnqsr, because I don't know anybody else.

>>1986458
2AB5B j.BC, j.BC with Nrvnqsr. Usually does 2500-3000 against the computer, but seems closer to 1000-1500 when I use it on people (too busy trying not to die to look at the numbers, though).

>>1986459
And it's not over a day; it's been about three weeks since I started.

>>1986443

Here's how to get better:
Learn BnBs and blockstrings, practice them A LOT in practice mode until you can pull them off any time. BTW, don't bother playing the computer.

Watch japanese vids. Go to youtube user Daruism and watch videos of your character (don't watch the new ones, though, as they are MBAA, not MBAC). Imitate how those guys handle each situation: when opponent is far away, close, on air, attacking, defending.

Play other people, use those combos and blockstrings you practiced and base your overall gameplay like the ones you saw in the vids. While playing, see where your holes are. What habit of yours end up getting punished everytime? Keep note to never do those again.

Keep on playing and watching vids, have fun, get better.

>>1986399
>Meltybread doesn't have shit for a beginner,
Huh? Melty Bread has everything you need.

Start out by reading the usual ``big'' thread about your character on melty bread. You usually get the list of bnbs, some blockstrings and common mixups. Grind out at least one bnb in practice modo. Try getting at least one proper blockstring too.

Then, every time you can, play with people. Practice modo and computers are fine and all TO PRACTICE, but you will only really learn how to play by playing. You'll learn what you shouldn't do (ie mashing 2a on your wakeup, spamming specials, trying to poke out too much.. all common beginner mistakes).

If you get too frustrated, take a break. When you get too frustrated, you tend to do stupid shit, which usually gets punished, which usually just makes you even angrier. Losing 90 rounds to someone, if your ego can take it, WILL make you learn something but it isn't worth it if you just mash 2a every round past the 10rd because you want to get a hit in because you're pissed.

When you can't play with people or when you're too frustrated to play with people, go back to practice modo. Try other blockstrings, learn your advanced bnbs, etc. Every dmg you can squeeze out will matter once you get better.

>>1986481
Use 2C to launch instead of 5B. Still not the optimal Nero BnB, but the timing doesn't need to be as tight, it works better against the lolis, and you can blowback if it's blocked to mess with people's heads or give you enough room to spit out an animal.

>>1986481
mid screen: 2a-2b(1hit)-2c-Jb-Jb-jc-air dash-jc-land-super jump jc-jc-air grab-EX crow setup

near corner: 2a-2b(3hit)-2c-Jb-jc-land-Jc-Jc-air grab-EX crow setup
2a-2b(3hit)-2c-Jb-jc-land-Jc-cross up-Jc-air dash-cross up-Ex deer setup

>>1986489
well life wouldn't really be fair if people who have been practicing and playing for years get beaten by a person who has been playing for three weeks.

99.161.127.118
wc hosting

>>1986509
Timing out.

>>1986505
oops, 2nd corner combo does not have 2 cross ups, the 2nd cross up is supposed to be a jc

East Coast host:
68.198.213.157
Shit tier

70.191.237.199
east coast im awful

70.191.237.199
east coast im awful

>>1986493
>spit out an animal
You're hilarious. Because as we all know, that NEVER gets punished immediately and brutally.

I've tried using 2C instead of 5B, but I just can't time it at all. 5B is multi-hit, so it's easier or, in my case, actually possible[/spoiler ]to time the jump cancel.

>>1986492
Really? Because when I went to meltybread's wiki, it just listed off what each move was, and then a bunch of framedata (which, while right about here is where I discovered Meltybread's forum could be accessed without logging in, which I can't do because it refuses to acknowledge the username I registered, facepalmed, and decided to stop talking.

>>1986490


Thanks for all the help, everyone. I guess sometimes /jp/ CAN be good after 9PM.

>>1986505

>>1986493
>spit out an animal
You're hilarious. Because as we all know, that NEVER gets punished immediately and brutally.

I've tried using 2C instead of 5B, but I just can't time it at all. 5B is multi-hit, so it's easier or, in my case, actually possible to time the jump cancel.

>>1986492
Really? Because when I went to meltybread's wiki, it just listed off what each move was, and then a bunch of framedata (which, while right about here is where I discovered Meltybread's forum could be accessed without logging in, which I can't do because it refuses to acknowledge the username I registered, facepalmed, and decided to stop talking.

>>1986490


Thanks for all the help, everyone. I guess sometimes /jp/ CAN be good after 9PM.

>>1986505
Oh- Oh god... I think I just came.

>>1986523
Just tried, timeout

>>1986523
whoever sorry my controller messed up

99.161.127.118

wc hosting. works now.

>>1986528
If you are starting out, stop playing nero and pick up a high tier char.

My friend only plays neko arc chaos.
He wants to become tournyfag with it. He's been practicing really hard.

When should I break it to him he's got no chance in hell?

>>1986562
yesterday

>>1986567
fuck, really?

>>1986569
yeah, really. He's trying to catch up to other guys long ahead of him by using a char that requires godly space management and twice more hits than others for his crappy damage.

>>1986528
The thing about punishes is that they're normally open to massive punishes themselves. Don't be predictible. Vary your tempo. Mix up your combo. Sometimes through in a 4C at the end instead of an animal. Or leave it blank. Or IAD. Nothing is airtight. Every blockstring can be punished if you know where the gaps are, which is why good players use lots or stop them early to cancel into a new one and mix it up with throws.

>>1986562

Hey, it's not impossible. There was a NAC at Evo last year.

>>1986620
Everyone hates that guy. Also, he's a faggot.

>>1986562
>friend
>neko arc chaos

man you fucked up buddy

>>1986620
>Evo
there weren't even enough people to represent all chars -.-

>>1986523
ggs

>>1986523
GGs.
You're not that bad; you just need to work on recovering out of my invalid combos, and you would've slaughtered me every time.

>>1986632

Wow guy, since when did you become the best fuckin MBAC player around

>>1986620
Ah okay, that kinda sounds cool

>>1986632
Thats a shame. NAC is a pretty fucking cool character


>>1986634
No, he's a pretty cool guy, plays vidya alot and we like to hang out. He only plays as NAC and Kouma (who we both agree is captain falcon more then anything else). He's not half bad, considering that he plays on a laptop keyboard and only practices against AI. He regulary manages to tie myself (semi-casual nanaya/kouma player on keyboard) and another friend (semi-casual kohaku/len player)

>>1986620
Funny story, he spent 2000$ to go to EVO and lost in something like the first round or so. I think his name was qaenyin or something.

>>1986620

>>1986646
;_;

>>1986555
I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave. Getting Nrvnqsr in my M.U.G.E.N. (which is, thankfully, now off my computer forever) is what got me into Melty Blood and Tsukihime in the first place. There are differences, of course; this version is much, much smoother, and doesn't have a couple specials, but I'm just fine with that because I can actually play this with other people.

>>1986551
GGs. Sorry I didn't learn my len specific combos.

>>1986643 (me)
Hosting
68.39.227.129
east coast

>>1986551
rehosting

>>1986555

lol, you dont realize how good nero can be in this level play do you

>>1986660
At mid levels of play, everybody jumps. Nero rapes people who reflexively jump. If you walk amongst bads, Nero is SS+ tier.

>>1986662
Note to self: Rape people who jump as a reflex.

Thanks, Anon!

>>1986657
nobody wants to play? damn, all this melty talk got to me.

>>1986519
Still hosting

>>1986551

wc hosting

>>1986490
Looked up some of those vids, and I have only one thing to say:

SO.
MUCH.
HOAAAAA.

I had no idea they could be strung together like that!
It's beautiful...

>>1986669
ggs. Sorry that I really only had three characters worth mentioning.

>>1986669
GGs. I woudn't consider you shit tier at all. You're pretty good, but it's obvious you don't know certain characters attacks Like trying to block nanaya's blood heat arc, for example. You knew what you were doing most of the time, but you seemed pretty surprised by what the enemy was capable of. You should start trying other characters out, and at least know some things about them.

Also, my NAC needs more work.

>>1986786
also, i'm leaving because i'm going bed, not cause of the score.

Also, looking over the log, their was a lot of desyncs...and I know alot of those matches were close, too.

>>1986789
Rusty. Haven't touched Melty in weeks as I've been playing Guilty Gear. Those first few rounds were terrible, I kept using the wrong attacks because of different key mappings. Yeh, that Nanaya thing was somewhat embarassing, I was sitting there thinking, "Wasn't there more to this attack? ARC DRIVE FINISH! Oh... Right..."

81.103.44.251

FFA EU

>>1986632

he's a pretty decent guy if you ask me, just has a minor case of superiority complex

>>1986803
Makes more sense. Still some fun rounds. I haven't played in a while either, so it's all good

>>1986675
GGs. Throw more cats. Especially on the OTG combo. Drop a Neko Arc at the end of it if you're going to leave an opening anyway. Also, dash cancel your jump-ins more. j.C66j.2C is Len's viciousiest crossup. Use her j.Bs more too. She's got awesome reach on them and then hit high. You can also launch with 2B5B against most (but not all) characters for a little more damage than 4B. You can't chain the ex-ice off of it though. Also, after the 236[A], you can 2B5B (or 2B5C) for more damage, or 2B214C to drop a cat on their face and keep the pressure up.

>>1986937
Oh, and toss in some 623s every now and then on your blockstrings. Not always though. Good people will just throw you out of them if they're expecting them, but you can cancel the first pirouette or toss in a low recovery 2nd one (comboable to 612C and then launch in corner). You CAN also 214C at the end of Len's blockstrings, and then dash forward and throw them before the second hit, but it really only works well as a mixup since the toss is slow enough for anybody who's watching for it to hit you out of it.

>>1986937
I would do jC66j2C, but i can never get it down in practice because my fingers are too slow. :(

>>1986944
Don't worry, I can't IAD at all, so my Len's as good as it's ever going to be. j.B also sometimes works for some weird crossup hits, but mostly only against the big characters.

71.108.246.95
WC, several levels below shit tier.

>>1986937
What? Ex-Ice is almost always used off 2B5B.

>>1986960
ERROR : TIMEOUT ( Access )

>>1986965
If by 5B, you mean 4B, then yes.

>>1987145
...You know, if I didn't know any better, I'd think Nrvnqsr had been left behind in terms of movelist.

>>1987149
Len != Nero. I realize both dress in black, but there are other subtle differences you need to be able to observe to tell them apart.

>>1987153
Not what I meant. I mean, other characters have four or five different standing attacks on one button, while Nrvnqsr only has the 5A/B/C, 2A/B/C, j.A/B/C, and 4C.

He just doesn't have as much variety as everyone else, is all I'm saying.

77.178.219.150
Low casual

>>1986808

ggs whoever played me. Fucking Satsuki 4 way is impossible to block correctly online though, we were mostly tied aside from that.

>>1987159

He has 5 specials.

>>1987159
Shiki/Nanaya/Satsuki/Kohaku have 1 less. Len and V.Akiha have 1 more. Those are just the ones off the top of my head. Woe is poor Nero.

>>1987164
Uh. Crow, Deer, Snake, and...? Are you counting his giant claw too? That's still one short.

>>1987159
kohaku, satsuki, tohno shiki, and nanaya do not have a single command normal. there, happy? Nobody in MB should complain about their char unless it's W.Len.

>>1987164
He's not the only one. Fuck, Ciel has six at the very least.

Had to help out my mom. GGs

>>1987203
Even they can't complain because nobody ever has any clue how to play against them because she's so fucked up.

>>1987203
1. I wasn't complaining.
2. >If I didn't know better, I'd say

>>1986490
Enjoy copying other people and wasting countless hours to become better at a computer game so you can beat people and showing everyone online that you did.

>>1987257
enjoy your 2aaaaaaaaaaaaa combos, because it's sooo much more fun to suck dicks at a game.

Real men pick Neco Arc and go SHAAA all the way.

>>1987280
Actually, it's 5AAAAA. And learning on-the-fly and developing your own 'style' is much more fun.
But yeah, have fun with your monotony and tiny IRL penis.

>>1987298
Actually, "copying" a person who plays well is not like what you are thinking. It's like observing an NBA player, you just learn the proper forms of techniques, yet ultimately it is you who controls how you do in your own match. Learning a proper technique does not grant you skills, but only accelerates the skills you learn by doing it your self. Especially in fighting games, you can't help but develop your own style as you play with other people, no matter if you observed thousands of matches. In anything, I like to develop my own style with a firm basis built on by knowledge of other people who have perfected it, I believe I have more to work with in creating my own style with that basis and consequently a lot more fun in doing the activity. I guess this is where it makes you and me different, you may have more fun starting from scratch.

Sry but I cannot respond any further, it is 3:30 right now and I must go to school tomorrow, I'll be stroking my very small dick (damn, how'd you know that just from an anonymous post) to sleep.

anyone for midday melty?

>>1988706
right here:
74.12.37.223

>>1988706
I wish I could (I think I might actually be able to hurt somebody now!), but I've got class in 50 minutes and I haven't eaten breakfast yet.

Gonna be lunch, because the fucking DC doesn't serve breakfast after 10 AM anymore...

>>1987298
>>Actually, it's 5AAAAA. And learning on-the-fly and developing your own 'style' is much more fun.
dont be a ciel dude folks

bamp

>>1988712
still hosting

76.185.255.179

>>1988743
D/ced? Oh well, ggs.

Do Meltybread's forums always go down like this, or is it a relatively rare occurrence?

>>1989309
pretty frequent recently, just use cached versions of threads

>>1989454
All right, thanks. I was worried it was because of me.

>>1989454
Thanks, but how do I get to the cache?

>>1989574
Bump, I'd really like to know this.

Also, 9/10 chance everybody knows this already, but Nrvnqsr can glitch into having two snakes on the field at once.

67.182.210.228 mid west

I didn't just put my tripcode in the email field....

67.182.210.228

>>1989804
connection time out <away>

still hosting

>>1989826
ggs

>>1989574
>>1989667
I mean just open a tab to the page you want in your browser and leave it there. If you just don't refresh it during mb's downtime it should retain and display the cached version

>>1986519
Rehosting

WC 169.232.121.232

99.224.216.201
east coast

>>1990692
Ggs, too bad it got too laggy.

>>1990914
ggs, I've been having low framerates regardless of ping with everybody lately. I'm using the same comp as I have before and no significant software has been installed, any ideas?

24.128.245.192 EAST COAST LESS THAN 5 DELAY

>>1990928
REHOSTING

>>1990928
ggs. Sorry I couldn't pose much of a challenge.

>>1990992

>>1990892
Very ggs.

ggs madscientist, always fun playing you

nice 40 hit combo

midday "where the fuck are knk5 subs" melty

99.224.216.201
east coast

>>1981369
I want to lick Akiha's foot.

>>1993355
subs still fucking nowhere.

and I KNOW I'm holding low block, the char even crounches.. BUT WHY THE FUCK DOES SHE NOT FUCKING BLOCK /ragequit

>>1993355
rehosting

ggs madscientist, I need to work on my air spacing

>>1993889
Ggs, and I need work on my blockstrings.

>>1993889
AIR FOOTSIES