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I have now.

Run ! Seija ! Run !

>>19563796
I got her

Why must you mistreat this cute Amanojaku?

>>19563796
It's ogre!

For Gensokyo, Seijames?

>>19563796
Why does this artist portraits Seija as an evil rapist who's obsessed with impregnating other 2hus and leaving them?

>>19563796
She’s got to face the world for those actions she made

How can one girl be so perfect?

>>19558266
She's with me, enjoying her new life trying to bring back her people from extinction.

>>19558266
No one is exactly missing her.

>>19558266
I have her, in fact.

>>19579455
For bullying!

>>19579169
I miss her

>>19579169
This. I see her every Tuesday at the shopping district hanging out with friends.

>>19583391
What happened to Nue's wings?

>>19583412
The same thing that happened to Aya's wings.

>>19565463
The child will be Half-human half-amanojaku. How will he be treated?

>>19583421
Aya has wings

>>19587919
An unwanted freak despised by everyone. Too kind and honest to be an amanojaku and too evil and untrustworthy to be a human and has even smaller horns.

>>19591503
Depressing

I wanna start a family with her!

Guys I miss Sejia. I really miss Seija.

>>19595434
Can you two adopt me?

Do you think Seija would tease someone with her body or is she the shy type of gal?

>>19595814
Definitely the type of person who'd tease someone if she thought it'd get them nervous and freeze up but wouldn't know what to do if someone started touching her back (probably get really nervous and freeze up herself).

Come to sleep with big sis!

c'mon

>>19599488
>>19600875
You don't have to come to bed right away. Seija knows she'll wake up the next morning with you by her side anyway.

>>19600901
Hey you were right!

Amanojacute

Can't fucking wait for this

.

about her that you loved about her?

Nice kill la kill thread but this belongs on /a/ ladies

Nice Shadow the Hedgehog thread but this belongs on /v/, dudes.

>>19607879
Everything

What are the chances of her appearing in Violet Detector?

>>19610118
As likely as a pair of her used underwear appearing for sale on underground websites.

>>19558266
How come I haven't seen her face on milk cartons yet?

>>19614709
Someone has to care enough to report her missing to the police and the police have to care enough to put up missing posters for her. Since it's been so long, you might as well assume she's dead.

>>19606854
Why the HELL is your ass hanging out princess?!

>>19611463
Why do people always draw her with pink panties?

>>19606854
OH FUCK YES

Not the final yet, right?

>>19617593
and, to answer myself, it's not though Hokuto thinks he can end it within the year
https://twitter.com/hokuto529/status/1026800488858116096

>>19617608
Why is she crying?
I prefer Seija smiling.

>>19617578
From what I've seen, it's usually either been darker colors or plain white.

>>19618712
That's some terrible anatomy

>>19618718
Despite being the biggest tomboy in Gensokyo, Seija wears the cutest pairs of panties around. I bet if they had character-print panties in Gensokyo, she'd have bears and magical girl-print panties.

I want Seija to sit on my face

She’s a cutie (for a filthy Marxist revolutionary)

>>19622404
If Seija were a filthy commie, why is she leading a revolution to overthrow an agrarian lower-class society?

>>19618712
>oh lucky! I saw some panties!
>eek! what's with you!?
>are you gonna rape me!?
>H...hold on a second..."rape"?...isn't that a crime?...scary...
>why am I being pulled!?

>>19622442
It's not a crime if it's an amanojaku. It's a public service if it's Seija Kijin.

Is Seija in the new game?

>>19622424
It's feudalistic.

>Wasn't in VD despite Shimmy and Raiko making it in
Is it safe to assume that ZUN has something big planned for her?
It's pretty obvious that he's been avoiding her on purpose.

>>19629698
She's the one prompting Sumireko to go ape shit and start taking selfies in front of bulletspam and posting said selfies on Twitter/Instagram/Xanga.

>>19629698
Quoth who?

There's no dream Seija, therefore she must be hiding in the outside world.

>>19635854
I wonder how long it'd take Seija to mess with the wrong person and get the shit beaten out of her?

>>19635937
Seija is a pretty clever girl.
She can get out of almost any kind of bad situation.

kissu

.

>>19620191
I still want her to

Bumperino

She needs to come back.

>>19654738
Anon... Seija is dead. She was buried on the Nameless Hill shortly after succumbing to her wounds in ISC. Actually, it'd be more specific to say her body was dumped at the Nameless Hill.

>>19654885
Nope, I saved her and now I get to pet her every night before going to sleep!

.

Victory for my queen

>>19654905
Undigging Seija's corpse from the nameless hill!
Bringing her home to save her and tending her rotting wounds!
Petting her slowly rotting corpse every night before going to sleep!
Seija!

>>19662319
She's alive and well fed you necrocreep

>>19662319
Wouldn't it be more sanitary to taxidermy her corpse so that you can enjoy her longer?

>>19662332
Repeating to yourself every night that she's alive and well fed!
Deluding yourself with the idea she'll love you again!
Allucinating of her calling your name!
Crying yourself to sleep!

>>19662391
>Allucinating of her calling your name!
That's not a bad idea

>>19662403
Here's an even better idea! Make yourself a tulpa so she can become real (in your mind)!

>>19662432
But anon, she's already real to me.

Seija would be much more popular if she were just a bit more feminine.

>>19662541
Seija is not even the least feminine 2hu tho

>>19662548
Seija's the biggest tomboy in Gensokyo, despite being in a dress.

>>19662557
I think she's quite feminine.
She's no mokou

>>19662574
Mokou isn't masculine, she's just really old. I bet Mokou forgets to turn off the campfire before going on her daily walks at least once a week.

>>19662580
>Mokou isn't masculine

>>19662587
Mokou is manly (female). Seija is boyish (female). Happy?

>>19662600
Less talking and more Seija

>>19662610
This is a platelet inside of Seija's body. Please don't cut, scrape, or wound Seija's body or else you'll give her a hard time.

>>19662620
Cute

HMM

Reminder that Seija is a boy and that you're fucking gay if you like him.

I'm gay for Seija

>>19666047
Seija's breasts are too small

Why is she so perfect? She has the right amount of tomboy, cute and fun. No other 2hu comes close.

>>19666028
Nothing wrong with being gay for Seija

>>19669895
Seija's so perfect because out of all the youkai in Gensokyo, she's perhaps the most purely malevolent and youkai-like youkai out of all of them. It's not like she's a bad person though; she just follows her beliefs and desires unashamedly.

>>19670737
Well she is bad insofar as her primary desire is to upset everyone else. She's not "wrong", though, as she is following her nature.

>>19670946
Right. She might do bad things, but you can't fault her for doing that because it'd be like calling a lion evil for eating a child.

>>19670737
>>19670946
Seija did nothing wrong

Danmaku Amanojaku

Danmacute Amanojacute

>>19558266
That was a long time ago, but it feels like yesterday

Is the new Hell also the world of Oni?
Did Seija come from that place?

https://my.mixtape.moe/pllzsw.mp4

>>19681006
>https://my.mixtape.moe/pllzsw.mp4
Are you going to try something moderately useful instead or just feel bad for yourself until you escape to some other nonsense faker???????

>>19681401
Faker?! I think you're the faker around here.

I bet Seija would make a really good femdom. She literally just flips the bad feeling of being punished into arousal. I wonder if the miracle mallet would make a good paddle. Then she’ll use the Tenfu camera to take pics and further the humiliation.
It’d be even better if she humiliated one of the more prideful characters like this. Like Remilia maybe.

>>19670737
What? So does ISIS.

>>19684604
Seija's a cute girl and she doesn't really believe in what she's saying about wanting the weak to rule the strong, so it's daijoubu.

>>19685085
Not Seija

>>19684747
So then she probably didn’t want to start a revolution in the first place she just got caught up in wanting the opposite of everything. I wonder how much of her actions are her actual choice and how much is just her falling victim to the opposites concept of her amanojaku nature. She needs a protector to protect her from herself.
I volunteer c:

For example >>19685085
Would she see this as true love? It’s the opposite of what most people would think

>>19677372
Despite looking similar, amanojaku aren't oni. They're in fact weak compared to most youkai and thus have to resort to trickery and persuasion to get what they want. One famous amanojaku once tricked a young beautiful girl into letting it into her home and brutally murdered and ate her, then wore her skin in an attempt to trick the prince that loved her, but it saw through its disguise and slew it.

>>19685143
The more you love an amanojaku, the more they hate you and the more you wish to protect her, the more she will try to claw her way out of your arms. She's the literal embodiment of the hedgehog's dilemma. Most likely, she wouldn't mind selling her body but the minute you do actually whip your dick out, she punches you in the balls, takes the money, laughs at you for wanting sex, then runs away.

>>19685662
Shimyoumaru came from that place, that's why I'm asking if Seija also did. I already know Amanojaku aren't a type of Oni in Touhou.

>>19685682
I always figured that Seija was just a local youkai living in Gensokyo and that Shinmyoumaru was one of the inchlings living on the surface of Gensokyo. If anything, wouldn't Shimmy have been from Old Hell? The move from New Hell seems fairly recent and regardless, Shinmyoumaru appears to see herself as a resident of Gensokyo than of (Old) Hell.

The oni do live in New Hell now, according to Shiki. Considering that Shiki also said that Hell isn't the most hospitable place for fairies, the Inchlings that do live there must have it really bad. Shimmy should take her anger out on the oni of Hell, if anything. Despite being evil, I don't think Seija would've fit in well with Hell, considering it's a place of punishment and if the norm is to punish sinners, Seija would actively be trying to free them and trying to alleviate their pain and suffering then, wouldn't you agree?

>>19685855
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Shinmyoumaru_Sukuna#Official_Profiles

>>19685978
I guess it's a possibility Seija's also from Hell. It'd make her journey to the Shining Needle Castle way more easy on her. It does seem to imply though that the castle was located in Old Hell, considering that it plummeted into the earth below Gensokyo long before Shinmyoumaru was born. I guess it does make sense though for Seija to be from Old Hell then, as youkai from the surface don't usually wander around beneath the earth and that it'd be more likely for someone who lives in that area to know where landmarks like the Shining Needle Castle to be.

why do you people love her, you do know if your love will only make her hate you more. what make her so special in your eyes?

>>19686343
The impossible is the most desirable thing in the world

>>19686343
I love the idea of a contrarian rebel who'd go against the grains of society and would even try to overthrow the world she helped create immediately afterwards. Despite being a two-faced liar and a cheat, she's perhaps the most honest youkai you'll ever meet. Everything she does is in accordance to her nature and she doesn't show an inkling of willingness to go against it. It's the contradictions of her very being that make her so interesting. She is nothing but contradictions and opposing statements and that's why I love her. She's so hated and reviled and unironically enjoys being hated that I can't help but love her.

>>19686343
She’s just a dumb cutie who makes bad choices and doesn’t realize she needs someone to keep her out of trouble.

>>19686306
I like how this doujin >>19606854 is based off this theory.

>>19686412
So she's actually a retarded chemically altered sleeper agent for a yet unnamed antagonist, gotcha shore did surprise mi amigoe.

>>19686765
Yes, you are retarded.

>>19684596
Seija's shitty ability isn't some high level conceptual thing like Yukari's. She flips things. As in, she flips physical things over.

>>19686306
It's probable, even.

The SA incident resulted in a hell of a lot of things, many of which boil down to "[x] got out".

>>19686306#
It's probable, even.

The SA incident resulted in a hell of a lot of things, many of which boil down to "[x] got out".

>>19690557
god Vector Spectacle is cool

>>19690557
>>19690566
Part 4 is translated here for those who don't know
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/12674

>>19690865
Part 5 was also released at the last comiket. I'd buy it if I could

>I know right?

>>19695163

>>19695219
I don't speak or read chinese and you're a backwards greedtard.

>>19695824
Dumb newfag

How do I make her my wife?
I'm prepared for whatever it takes.

>>19702954
You don't

>>19702954
You'd have to be a social pariah actively hated by everyone in Gensokyo for her to even consider being kind to you.

>>19690540
This face melts my fucking heart.
I wanna hug her so bad!

Seija is a precious treasure!

Would Seija be fine being an Oni's plaything?

>>19712569
Obviously not because she doesn't like being chained (impaled) down by anyone.

Seija calmly waiting for her new game.

>>19712681
Seija is going to come back as a mid-boss for TH17. Tell your friends and family she's coming back.

>>19712681
she gonna be waiting forever than, good thing mima is there to keep her company.

>>19690540
>>19690557
>>19690566
This has kinda a Yasuhiro Nightow vibe to it. What manga is this? I like it

>>19604631
Amanojaculate

>>19714290
Vector Spectacle

Would Seija cry during sex?

>>19716542
Retsu findo outo!

>>19716542
I think Seija would be the kind of girl who's really sensitive and cums easily during sex, but because she hates everything other people like, she'd be crying asking you to stop between forced gasps and moans while meekly pounding at your chest with her clenched fists, but ultimately wouldn't be able to stop you from cumming repeatedly in her or slipping your tongue into her mouth and caressing her tongue with yours because she'd be too weak from the pleasure to really do anything. She would most likely legitimately hate you no matter what, even if you were really sweet, slow and gentle with her during though.

>>19716833
That's just your fantasies, anon.

>>19717128
Well duh anon. No one can actually have sex with Seija to find out because she's been dead since 2014.

>>19717138
Seija isn't dead, she's just taking it easy before her glorious return!

>>19716833
Seriously, you're pretty much a chicken.

>>19718363
The best part was it looked like that when Seija got there.

>>19717138
Whadya mean? She was in Serene Retro History ;)

>>19722549
Really, that's the level you chose to stop at? Would you like some peanut butter and carrots with Eduardo-sama?

God I absolutely adore this girl.

>>19729634
I want to flip her skirt up.

Is Seija the most sexual 2hu?

>>19730313
You shouldn't want to put your dick in Seija, but you do anyways.

>>19731429
Why wouldn't I want to put my dick inside the most beautiful 2hu?

>>19731539
Because amanojaku are known to kill and eat people, then wear their skin and pretend to be them.

>>19731907
Maybe in the original folklore, but they were also part Oni, which is not true in the Touhou universe.

>>19731907
You heard that somewhere else and made your usual retarded assumptions didn't you, "anon"?
>The enjoyment of insane bullshit is my favorite pastime as it's what I most EASILY associate with what I looked up the term to mean in a dictionary after I'd grown tired of smashing a hammer against my head

Me on the left

>>19732783
>you heard that somewhere else
Yes, the tale of Urikohime. I have no idea why you're getting so triggered, so have a dismayed Seija.

she's just a chuuni going through her edgy phase

Someday they will give her inverted tan lines.

>>19734587
>inverted tan lines
That's some seriously perverted clothes she's gotta be wearing to give her an inverted bikini tan. It'd probably be something like a gimp suit but with her chest and crotch exposed for everyone to see.

>>19734437
SO that's Seija on the left?

>>19734480
So, she's excited then? Forgive me, amonojaku ways confuse me, I aporogize.

Should I feel bad for maturbating to the thought of her getting raped after not getting away from a bad situation?

>>19739519
Only if she dies afterwards, anon.

Never return

>>19740744
t. Sagume

>>19740787
Really now!/?
>

Do you guys see Seija as protagonist material?

>>19742177
Yes. Protagonist of her own RPG game where she gets brutally raped when she loses a fight.

>>19742177
Seija's gonna be the star of her very own DOOM-like game where she runs around Gensokyo mowing fairies and other 2hus down with cheat items andshe gets brutally raped when she loses a fight.

STOP BEING MEAN TO SEIJA

>>19742177
Well she's literally one of the protagonists so...

>>19742177
Seija's gonna be the protagonist of her own RPG game, where she has to survive under cover in the Human Village without exposing her identity.

Night time combat sections involve DOOM-like gameplay, wherein Seija goes around secluded locations, mowing down fairies and the occasional named character, then escapes before she is recognised.

Day time plays out like any old-timey Flash life sin, where Seija has to work and make enough money to maintain her cover in the Village. When things get tough, she can resort to prostitution - finding desperate men and offering them the opportunity to shove their cocks up her filthy pussy in a back-alley or behind a storehouse. However, if her H score gets too high, NPCs will start approaching her and triggering unskippable H-scenes of increasing perversion.

And she gets brutally raped when she loses a fight.

>All these rape wishes
What makes people want to see her get raped so badly?

>>19744924
Does it really count as rape, though, when a deity of misfortune is doing it in a slow and sensuous fashion thereby double inverting poor luck to upside down backwards summon a missing celestial through a positive (kinky) sex energy cascade? Cause I'd call that some Diablo level sssssstuff. AND THEN ONE MORE THING...raid a skill point shrine for us and go 'a home and be a sleepy man with my family.

>>19744924
It's the only natural thing to do when you meet an amanojaku. What do you think the townspeople did when they found out it wasn't Urikohime? They gangraped it.

>The amanojaku ran for its life, but the elderly couple chased after it. More and more people joined them, until a whole host of villagers chased the demon through the village. Finally, the townspeople caught up to the amanojaku and raped it. They raped the demon into a cum-slathered mess until it died.

In another alternative telling, rather than getting gangraped to death, the amanojaku is turned into a sex slave for a lord.

>On the next day, the lord's men were carrying the monster in a palanquin to his castle. On their way to the castle, when they came near the pear tree to which she was tied, the crows in the mountain began to have a strange cry.
"She is not Melon. Melon is in the mountain. She is not Melon. Melon is in the mountain. "CAW-CAW"
>They thought there was something strange with her and found 'Melon' tied to the tree. The mountain monster was caught and raped on the spot.
>The beautiful lady got married to the lord and she was called 'Melon Princess' and the amanojaku her husband's onahole.

>>19745012
That sounds more like the sort of thing they do to Mokou on the regular if you want my expert opinion.

>>19745041
With the added benefit that they could probably cut her liver out, divide it into portions for each rapist and eat it, wait for it to grow back, and then do the same thing all over again until everyone involved is eternal.

>>19745063
But is it really rape if she cooks off their skin with a glare starting at the waistline, I ask you this sagacious ponderonce?

>>19745251
If it's Mokou immediately after that whole mountain fiasco thing, she couldn't really do jack shit.

>>19745394
You causality record is an amusement.

My thread got made first

ama

>>19750832

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>>19751703

>>19759822
What is perhaps the greatest irony of all is that despite being a creature of constant change and rebellion, a fate most tragic would be for them living in a world of unending chaos. If there is nothing everyone can agree on and nothing to topple over, they have no reason to exist. It is then for the best that Seija never truly succeeds as she would rebel against the new order she so created and repeat over and over again until it is all dust or until she is dead.

>>19761006
Is she self-aware of her nature? how strong is it? can she hold it back?

>>19761032
For a creature so insistent on overthrowing the natural order, she is the most insistent on standing by her very nature as an amanojaku. It's almost completely contradictory for a creature to exist for the sole purpose of rebellion, yet never once considers to rebel against her sole purpose of being. If she is aware of her purpose, she embraces it wholly and is perhaps the only thing she would never fight against. An amanojaku that refuses to change others is an amanojaku that's never been heard of.

I want Seija to bully me everyday.

>>19769903
Nue shouldn't bully her cute wife like that if she wants to keep waking up to this every morning.

Worst friends forever

A cute

>>19776616
If Seija's so cute, how come no one hasn't already made her their wife and put at least thirty babies in her?

>>19778503
Speak for yourself.

And those are my terms for this 'relationship'. Do you agree with them?

>>19782119
Five minutes later...

Uh oh

>>19796561
Seija's legs are so hot, she doesn't need to wear anything to keep them warm!

Stomachache

>>19805940

Probably from eating poison berries in the woods

>>19805940

Who does all these?

>>19805990
https://twitter.com/913kurage555/status/1036293306655768576

Pic related is what's in her uterus, apparently.

Seija is such a heavenly little devil.

What's your headcanon voice for Seija?

>>19808759
Higher-pitched Ryuuko.

>>19808813
Ryuuko is a shit character and her voice wouldn't fit Seija. If anything she'd have a deep and sexy voice.

Last seen dodging an easy spellcard from Yukari.

Clearly, Yukari tore open a portal in time, and flung her into the future; where her evil is law.

Now the Seija seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Yaku.

>>19809780
FOOLISH AMANOJAKU!

>>19808913
Obviously the older the depiction of Seija, the deeper and more sexy her voice should be. I like to imagine Seija's got a short, flat scrawny body and thus has a higher-pitched, tomboyish voice to match her rebellious attitude.

>>19809913
I don't think a hight pitched voice would fit her.
Especially since she's pretty tomboyish.

>>19806602

>Shimy crawls up Seija's vag when she isn't looking.

Tight virgin amanojacunny!

https://my.mixtape.moe/szorxk.mp4

>>19811593

She's so beautiful. Like a wild flower in the forest you cannot tame her.

>>19820317
I'm the master key of Seija's cute and tight lock!

>>19813365
Did they die?

>>19820317
I want to break this lock.

>>19822412
They died from fan death, yeah.

What does Seija eat?

>>19828731
Stolen rice, river fish and eels she's caught, berries, not fairies, and dirt.

>>19828889
Wow, Seija is so skilled and independent!

Who would be more difficult to date, parsee or seija

>>19830731
Parsee's manageable as long as you avoid being within 50m of the next closest sentient being. Trying to date Seija is a lesson in futility though. She'd do things to piss you off, she'd get angry and yell at you if you try to do anything lovey-dovey with her, and nothing she does really makes too much sense. Really, Seija is pretty much impossible to get into a romantic relationship with until you somehow help her break from her amanojaku nature, which she won't be willing to do at all.

>>19832142

Amanojaku will have sex with me.

>>19833943
Haaah?! Sex? I'm not interested in boring, gross stuff like that!

Happy jaku family

>>19838774
Mama Sagume's a bad mother for leaving her daughter on Earth and being sullied by the impurities of life.

>>19840592
Wouldn't she get bored of the Moon and eventually come down to Earth to stir up trouble like Tenshi did?

>>19842838
She could always just mess with the Moon Rabbits. Then again, is Seija weaker than a rabbit?

>>19844068
Seija is a skilled girl and canonically beat half of Gensokyo!

shh

>>19848650
I hope Seija's doing well, wherever she is. She's my magical little rebel.

>>19850129
Don't worry Nemuno is healing Seija, after she is all heal up, Sejia will be back causing mischief again.

I miss you

http://coolier.dip.jp/sosowa/ssw_p/96/1419968603

>>19872043
I love this pairing so much. I sometimes wish Seija staying at the Myouren Temple was canon.

Would Seija be the only 2hu who would eagerly and legitimately enjoy Shiki's lecturing and actually follow them to the word?

>>19872655
Yamamomo is truly a amazing artist, glad you enjoy it too.

>>19872655
I hate it cause it's dumb and forced.

>>19874552
How so?

>>19874590
How not so? They've never spoken, and Seija would never be interested in being around anyone, not even the proto-Seija Nue, because inherently she has no interest in others outside of a capacity to bother the fuck out of or manipulate them. If you want to argue they're similar in their desires to spread "badness", in the end Seija's nature as an Amanojaku would still push her to find ways to fuck with Nue if they ever interacted. And, of course, she's just incapable of forming any kind of a normal relationship. People basically put them together due to a similar design and a misunderstanding or ignorance of her character.

The only pairing I can ever accept is "Seija and Shinmyoumaru, but Seija is a total cunt". And if it ever becomes true friendship or even romance in spite of her canonically cutting ties with the Inchling, then that amanojaku better be having a severe existential crisis.

>>19876774
>she's just incapable of forming any kind of a normal relationship.
I disagree. If that were true, DDC wouldn't have happened at all. If you read her dialogue throughout the games you can clearly see that she's not the meme anti-social contrarian that everyone thinks, she is completely capable of forming a relationship as long as she's getting some benefit out of it.
Take Marisa's ending in DDC for example. I'm sure Nue would be similar in the way Seija is happy about making a powerful ally, even if it's just for some time.
I'm not saying they'd be a yuri pair that genuinely love each other but at the very least I can completely see them interact peacefully for a while given the right circumstances.

>>19877174
>I disagree. If that were true, DDC wouldn't have happened at all.
You misunderstood DDC somehow. She tricked Shinmyoumaru into working with her by lying to her and saying that Gensokyo was against the Inchling race. This is explicitly stated. The only reason Shinmyoumaru even attempts to reconcile with her in ISC is since she's a nice girl, and Seija flatly refuses.

Her relationship was an utter lie, because it had to be so she could get a functioning miracle mallet (she couldn't use it herself). ISC also ends with the statement that of course, she has made an enemy of everyone in Gensokyo, has no friends, and couldn't be happier.

>>19877174
as for Marisa: under the influence of the mallet (ergo: her) and thus doing something she ordinarily would never do (attempt to overthrow society)

>>19877249
>>19877254
I know that but my point still stands.
Also I was Seija who tried to get Shinmyoumaru to help her again in ISC, she just wanted to capture her alive.

>>19877257
it was*

>>19877257
Seija made another attempt to get Shinmyoumaru to join her because she had a bunch of cheating tools and a chance to get the ultimate one back in her hands. Shinmyoumaru is done with that and tells Seija to give up, Seija flips her off. I don't see how your point stands when pretty much her only means of "working" with someone are when she's exploiting them for her own gain, and indeed as an amanojaku it's not like... FANON that she doesn't get along with anyone. That's her existence. She's a contrarian, otherwise she can't function, like Kokoro needs her masks, or Kyouko needs to echo. She fights youkai too in ISC, one of Nue's friends for that matter. Then again Mamizou was directly helping her. Seija still shot her down afterward.

>>19877275
>I don't see how your point stands
See >>19877174
>she is completely capable of forming a relationship as long as she's getting some benefit out of it.

>>19877275
>She's a contrarian, otherwise she can't function
Being a contrarian doesn't make you a psycho anti-social being that somehow can't interact with others.
>Mamizou
Has nothing to do with this.

People just like to draw them together because of design and general compatibility. Stop overthinking things you bakas.

>>19877285
>Being a contrarian doesn't make you a psycho anti-social being
When the default of society is tribal social interaction, then indeed being a contrarian who only seeks to utilize others like tools would make them a "psycho" anti-social (anti-society, she is literally attempting to turn the whole world and how it works on its head, including toppling powerful figures (such as Nue)), but it's not psycho, it's a youkai. Honestly any depiction of her working with others without it being clear that she is holding their leash or considers them dirt or is actively trying to upset them is indeed off the mark. I'm hypocritical for enjoying even depictions of her conflicted over that nature, but the truth is that she is enamored with her existence as a creature that cannot get along with others. She can speak with others. She can use others. But to like them or enjoy their company would be the antithesis to her very being.

>Mamizou
>Has nothing to do with this.
Friend of a friend has nothing to do with this? Mamizou is basically just another brand of Nue: a youkai who enjoys causing trouble. They are friends, canon. Hell that's how the smelly raccoon is introduced, and we see them interact and cause mischief even. If Seija can't get along with her even when Mamizou is blatantly assisting her, there's no reason to think she wouldn't kick Nue in the face basically.

>>19877311
>>19876774
>People basically put them together due to a similar design and a misunderstanding or ignorance of her character.
Rather than overthinking, I just like her honestly assholish character. She's completely, shamelessly a prick, ISC was great.

>>19877317
You are just mixing your headcanon now.
While it's true that her nature prevents her from enjoying a true relationship, we just don't know how strong that feeling is. Without that we basically can't write anything that's completely 100% accurate and faithful to her character.

>Friend of a friend has nothing to do with this?
No.
>Mamizou is basically just another brand of Nue
This is retarded and you know it.
>If Seija can't get along with her
Mamizou is still trying to capture her. Did you even play the game?

>>19877339
>You are just mixing your headcanon now.
nigga

>>19877346
I never said she could make real friends.
Learn some reading comprehenshion please.

>>19877346
>Missing the point
Congrats retard

>>19877317
Both of them are known as mischief girls doing pranks and hijinks etc etc. I mean you may not like it but don't pretend you don't know why are people putting them together.

>>19877339
Also pic related. Yeah. They're similar. Like I'm kind of getting annoyed that you're ignoring this fact when Nue pops up in TD's extra saying "yo my friend's coming" and her friend proceeds to be similar to Nue (go figure)--mysterious, self and fear interested.

quotes related (after explaining Seija should give up)
Mamizou
>...Well,
>though this doesn't really concern me,

Mamizou
>It doesn't seem like you're not
>fully drawing out the power of those items...

Seija
>Whaddya mean by that?

Mamizou
>You're leaving one hand idle, aren't you?
>If you equipped them in both hands... then maybe.

In case you don't get it, as she is wont to do Mamizou is helping Seija throughout this day, rather than seriously trying to capture her. Despite this Seija has no interest in working with her.

>>19877354
What exactly are you thinking when a person so strongly tied to her nature swears by that nature? You see that and say this?
>we just don't know how strong that feeling is
It's her entire being. How do you miss it? You say bullshit like "did you even play the game" and it's obvious you haven't after her cuntery throughout the entire thing. You somehow missed "Seija is a cunt and doesn't get along with others at all, at least not genuinely"
>>19877359
???

>>19877368
Oh I get it, I just don't like the implication that she'd pal around with Nue because of that. She is unable to pal around. Saying things like "I wish Seija was a part of Myouren" is just absurd to me. Then again Myouren's a crock of shit so maybe Seija would "do well" there (read: try to fuck it up more than it already is)

>>19877381
>>It doesn't seem like you're not
>>fully drawing out the power of those items
I assume this is a typo.

>>19877381
I don't remember Mamizou to be this cute. Guess I need to reread FS.

>>19877381
Seija: まだ終わらないのか
Is it still not over yet?

Mamizou: おい、そこの天邪鬼や
Oy, the amanojaku over there.

Mamizou: もう観念した方がええぞ
It's better if you gave up now.

Seija: 誰だか知らんが
まっぴらごめんだね
I dunno who you are
but I sincerely refuse.

That doesn't sound like she's trying to help her. Again, play the games and stop speedreading the wiki and forcing your headcanon.

>You somehow missed "Seija is a cunt and doesn't get along with others at all, at least not genuinely"
Dude are you even reading my posts? Do you even know what my main argument was?
I'll repeat to you since you are apparently to retarded to read. Seija can't make true friends because it conflicts with her nature, but that doesn't mean she can't form a relationship with anyone, especially whe she has something to win over it.
Jeez dude you are dense as fuck.

>>19877395
OH MY GOD

Do I need to explain Mamizou's character as well? Mamizou who has
-Helped Kokoro become more youkai-like
-Prodded Kasen about her youkai identity
-Subtly manipulated Kosuzu behind the scenes to become more comfortable with youkai
-Regularly attempted to find a foothold for youkai dominance in the human village
-Outright stated that she is all for youkai empowerment
-CAME to Gensokyo and SAID she was here to bolster youkai

THIS Mamizou, goes to Seija, brings up your quotes (that I mentioned!)
>>19877381
>quotes related (after explaining Seija should give up)
Says this, says she doesn't actually give a fuck, and immediately HEAVILY IMPLIES that Seija should use two cheats at once to become even better. This is 100% smelly tanuki basics: not necessarily saying what she's trying to do, but doing it all the same. In this case, helping an amanojaku with her nature (like she helped Kokoro) by giving her more means to spread chaos.

Also honestly I'm not dense, I have said myself that she can form relationships. What I'm wondering, anon, is why you're bothering saying that. Yes, she can "form relationships". So what? They mean nothing. But your pic is not nothing, most Seija/Nue is not nothing, but rather has them hanging out or Seija being tsundere (always worst fanon, Seija being tsundere). No shit, they could conceivably have a working relationship, but evidence points to it being unlikely that Seija would actually be able to jive with Nue. Why? Because despite being chaos-aligned, Seija is an amanojaku first. This is why even though another chaotic character, Mamizou, fairly directly aided her, rather than saying "you're like-minded, join me", she beat her up without a second thought and kept fighting on another day.

When she tries to recruit others in DDC, she only seriously attempts with those under the mallet's influence, in other words those with twisted natures. She has also canonically worked with only one person before, who she betrayed and lied to. There is thus mostly evidence indicating that yes, while Seija could have some kind of something with Nue, it would have to be with a corrupted, manipulated, or regularly shat upon by Seija Nue.

>>19877439
>Do I need to explain Mamizou's character as well?
No because we are not talking about Mamizou's relationship with Seija here.
Wanna know why she's helping her in ISC? Because ZUN thought it was a convenient way to introduce the new mechanics, that's it. There's nothing else to it, there's no subliminal message and you should stop trying so hard to find it.

>When she tries to recruit others in DDC, she only seriously attempts with those under the mallet's influence, in other words those with twisted natures.
Oh, let's see here, Nue surely is a normal girl with a calm and normal personality right?... Yeah I thought so.

>Seija could have some kind of something with Nue
THERE WE FUCKING GO!
See? It wasn't so hard. I'm glad you ended up seeing the light after so many replies.

>>19877456
>Wanna know why she's helping her in ISC? Because ZUN thought it was a convenient way to introduce the new mechanics, that's it. There's nothing else to it, there's no subliminal message and you should stop trying so hard to find it.
Oh no fuck you man.

This is where I'm done because, really, that was quite obviously gameplay and story integration. It's a moment consistent with Mamizou's character but it also introduces new gameplay. It follows with the many examples I cited and you ignored of Mamizou assisting other youkai, due to her pride in youkai. ZUN included her, as he included her in Hopeless Masquerade, as he made her prominent in FS, because Mamizou helps youkai. It was not "just" introducing a new mechanic. What a shitty thing to say.

>>19877456
>Nue surely is a normal girl with a calm and normal personality right?... Yeah I thought so.
Nue is a nue and very normal for a nue. She's not a weird nue, she's actually one of the more "exactly as they're supposed to be" youkai in Touhou.

>>19877467
It's funny how much you hate watching Seija interact with Nue, yet love her interaction with Mamizou so much. Are you sure you are in the right thread? Seem like you like Mamizou too much to the point where you are introducing your own headcanon to your sorry arguments.

>>19877473
>Nue is a nue and very normal for a nue. She's not a weird nue
I guess Nue is just a Nue, which is why Nue acts so much like a Nue. You'd know this if you actually knew Nue and what a Nue could be.

>>19877487
I hate Mamizou to be honest, but I do know her character. She's awful, cowardly, and disgustingly manipulative. Has no charisma, just a creep.

Stop saying headcanon and start actually reading the manga, playing the games, whatever. All I've done has been quoting and citing without my interpretation. My saying "Seija loves being an amanojaku"?

Not interpretation.
Seija:
>No matter who's after my life,
>I have no reason to return this wonderful power.
>For I am Seija
>An amanojaku since birth!

I appreciate Mamizou as a character, though, since she's well-written and consistent. I don't really know how it's funny to hate fanon, but eh

>>19877518
No, all you've done is ignoring my argument and pushing your own headcanon interpretations of how Seija would act in a non-canon situation with a character she has never met before, based solely off a few dialogues and manga panels that have nothing to do with Seija herself.

>I don't really know how it's funny to hate fanon, but eh
You tell me, since you are the one getting triggered over people enjoying these two troublemakers together.

>>19877544
I've used examples of Seija's behavior in meeting other characters as well as statements about her behavior as well as referring to her behavior to extrapolate how Seija would likely react given a similar situation. I haven't ignored you either I just said we agreed on a basic point of Seija being able to "pair" with others, just that that doesn't really amount to much.

I'm getting triggered mostly because Seija is one of those characters who people like to misinterpret, kind of like Eiki but it's not really bad. I just like Seija a lot, so I bite. Seija is really, incredibly, unshakably confident. That's why I like her. She's confident in what she is, which is a being that has a voracious NEED to be disliked. She's hated and she loves it. She doesn't

-make relationships with others who are "similar" to her (see: Mamizou)
-say the opposite of what she means
-like literally anyone
-pretend to dislike someone only to secretly like them (in other words, she's not a tsundere)
-deal with others unless she has some sort of hold over them, be it through forces beyond their control or pure silver-tongue manipulation

That's the Seija I like. I'll basically flip at anything suggesting she could relax with someone else or fall in love (Wife Seija is just the worst), unless that someone is Shinmyoumaru which to that
>>19877317
>I'm hypocritical for enjoying even depictions of her conflicted over that nature
but at least I can rationalize it in that Shinmyoumaru and Seija did work together, and the Inchling did trust her. So that, I can let slide. The lazily thought out "they both got black hair and prank so smush smush em together" bothers my bottom.

>>19877544
by the way to this
>have nothing to do with Seija herself.
I'm not going to insult you, but just to spell it out I was bringing up a character who is... she is, don't flip out, LIKE NUE (Mamizou) and showing how Seija's interactions with this similar character transpired. It's not irrelevant then, it's an argument. I pointed to things that very specifically pointed to my reasoning, and you're the one baselessly dismissing THAT. Which is ridiculous, because it seems ultimately to my "actual canon material that I am citing" you only have "your opinion"

>>19877585
>how Seija would likely react given a similar situation.
AKA Non-canon shit

Look, I also love Seija in many ways, which is why I'm still wasting my time replying to this shit. But I also know that other people are different to me and have different interpretations of her character. Which is especially true for japanese fans who don't have to deal with shit translation and get ZUN's words directly without any filter of shit localization.
The point that I'm trying to make is that not everything has to be 100% faithful to the canon all the time, because that's a stupid criteria to meet, especially with fan scenarios like Seija meeting Nue. Does it help to loosely base it off her canon behaviour? Of course! Is it necessary to make some 2 panels joke? Not at all. You are missing a lot of stuff just because you choose to be stubborn about the whole thing.

>>19877617
>my "actual canon material that I am citing"
You "actual canon material" is about another character from a manga which has NEVER featured Seija at all. Think about that for 2 seconds and realize how stupid it really is.

>>19877650
I'm not missing jack. I'm not interested in it. I have to ask, why would I be when the whole reason I like Seija is from seeing how cool she was fighting the entirety of Gensokyo on her own, forsaking all allies, and grinning as she went all the way down?

What would I be missing seeing a Seija who is not that?

>You "actual canon material" is about another character from a manga which has NEVER featured Seija at all. Think about that for 2 seconds and realize how stupid it really is.
I'm thinking and I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. A manga written by ZUN featuring a character who appears in a game written by ZUN who is a friend of the character who we're talking about, and has been shown to align philosophically, preferentially, and habitually with this character (both, still... written by ZUN) is... irrelevant, in your eyes, because Seija didn't show up in it? Even though the Mamizou ZUN wrote in FS is the Mamizou ZUN wrote in ISC is the Mamizou who is friends with Nue who is the Nue that ZUN wrote.

I understand not following canon to a T of course because that's absurd. I don't really get not following where it matters, or not playing within the realm of sense as we know it. I don't really get it. With SeiShin, I basically enlist a "what if" type scenario where I assume the reality is that Seija is SLIGHTLY less of an asshole, enough that she would ignore her own nature at least a little bit, or more, to be with someone who almost helped her change the world. I guess you could do that with Nue but I don't really give a shit about Nue, don't really see why they'd bother with each other since Seija's a worldwide wanted cuntbag, so there's really nothing there. And from my perspective I just see it as thinking they look nice aesthetically, they're both mischief makers so who cares about Seija's nature, etc. And I'm like, that shit's dumb and I want no part of it.

>>19877695
>Mamizou who is friends with Nue
Again, this is not helping your argument at all and it never will because Mamizou is NOT Nue.
>FS is irrelevant, in your eyes, because Seija didn't show up in it?
In this scenario? Yeah, it's pretty irrelevant. It's like trying to bring up the fairies manga while arguing about Satori.
>not following canon where it matters
Have you forgotten that we are talking about a hypothetical scenario that has never canonically happened right? You do realize that Nue and Seija have never met before right?
>I don't really give a shit about Nue
Then why are you even arguing with me? are you dumb?
>that shit's dumb and I want no part of it.
Then ignore it instead of throwing a tantrum and trying to convince people that your headcanon scenario is somehow more valid.

>>19877743
You really don't seem to get the point I am making and considering all the times you say "you're stupid" it's very ironic that, even though I've told you I was pointing out that the two of them are alike, so this is probably (not definitely) how things would go... You're very fucking stupid if you don't get that. I'm saying there's more pointing toward it not working out than it working out but you ignore it. You seem to hate the idea of facts or correlation or argument or sense.

You're like... STUNNING me with how dumb that is. Touhou is a whole fuckin huge thing, if the fairies manga had something that could tangentially be related to Satori, but Satori didn't appear in it... why the hell WOULDN'T it be relevant? Say Okuu or Rin showed up in it and then they went on to talk to their master in another game? Please ignore Orin and Okuu's appearance in Three Fairies when discussing them and their relationship to Satori, as Satori herself was not present. ??????

If I'm bringing up
Nue's friend
in a discussion
as to why Seija would not be interested in Nue
because Nue's friend
has similar traits and values to Nue
so the probability is low that a scenario would make sense where Seija would have any interest in Nue
that's relevant. FS is relevant as it shows the relationships and habits in question. TD is relevant as it states they are two friends. I believe Symposium mentions this as well, so it's relevant? To ISC, Where Mamizou appears. Friends of friends and all that. Furthermore they aren't opposites, they're really quite alike as troublemakers. So I bring it up, in a Touhou discussion. Yes. Relevant. You dumbass.

>Then why are you even arguing with me?
Because I don't give a shit about her and don't like the lazily "let's put them together because they look alike and are roughly similar". Like I don't like her as a character, why would I like seeing people go "Seija Nue mwuh mwuh kissy face"? It's stupid.

>Then ignore it
Why? No. If I see fanon bullshit perpetuating I'm going to take out my dick and piss in the water.

>>19877743
Final point.
>Then ignore it
>>19874590
>How so?
I was asked and explained. You started with the insults, really.

>>19877793
>You seem to hate the idea of facts or correlation or argument or sense.
Are you fucking retarded? or are you just pretending?
There are not "facts" in your "argument". You are just spouting your headcanon like the secondary filth that you are.
>Touhou is a whole fuckin huge thing
Wow, that butterfly in that WaHH panel means that Mima is canon! It's all there guise!

>because Nue's friend has similar traits and values to Nue
Mamizou is not Nue, stop being retarded. Also nice formatting dude, makes you look like the underage you are.

>FS is relevant as it shows the relationships and habits in question
Seija does NOT appear in FS

>I'm going to take out my dick and piss in the water.
Yeah, you are totally underage.

Honestly, I'm done with you. I've already made my point pretty clear and it's obvious that you are either too immature to reason.
Thread is at bump limit anyway so it's pointless trying to argue with a child like you.

Come back when you grow up. This is my final (You). Have a nice day!

>>19877845
Keep on keeping on, secondary. Have a fanon field day and ignore literally anything anyone ever brings up. That's how argument works. Not childish at all.

Post canon images

Wasn't this a misunderstanding based on someone reading
>she's just incapable of forming any kind of a normal relationship
and responding with
>she is completely capable of forming a relationship as long as she's getting some benefit out of it
Because B misread and didn't see that A was saying the same thing?

Why the insults, also, when pages and games were dared to be reference, and statements like this
>If that were true, DDC wouldn't have happened at all
Were refuted. This was quoted
>>she's just incapable of forming any kind of a normal relationship.
And the "normal" part was ignored. Why'd the poster get so mad, then, when the response was an assumption of the refutation of this point?
>>she's just incapable of forming any kind of a normal relationship.

The whole thing was thus an argument based on confusion, yet at the same time there was a willingness to ignore things like here
>That doesn't sound like she's trying to help her. Again, play the games and stop speedreading the wiki and forcing your headcanon.
Calling headcanon when it was pointed out exactly why this statement is wrong here
>If you equipped them in both hands... then maybe.
Also vindictive comments came from the person posting Nue initially, and they quickly became caustic and I don't really understand that. Whatever there's the breakdown

>>19877873
Who are you quoting?

>>19877884
The posts in this thread? They're all there. I assumed the two would have hidden them.

>>19877888
The first person just has a personal grudge with that pairing. Bringing up baseless arguments and comparing characters that have nothing to do with Seija.
It's clear the that person is either underage or hasn't played the games and is just here to cause trouble because he just hates Seija in general.

>>19877872
>>19877884
Honestly it's just weird to me why you claim to like Seija while not liking her, that's all.

I mean that's not how she acts, so what's the point? Go fap to Ryuuko or something

>>19877903
Go back to >>>/v/ you dumb underage

>>19877903
Not him but the way you think she acts is not canon either.

>>19877924
That she hates people and doesn't make friends or try to pal with others unless she is manipulating them is canon, period. I'm not making that up, I posted all the relevant shit here

>>19877934
You only posted about Mamizou, which is not the character in question.
You are really fucking dumb to be honest.

>>19877902
I quoted the games. I guess this is just bait at this point, calling me underage for actually proving you wrong? Fuck you're a moron. Well, shippers tend to be.

You really are annoying though. I'm not going to start a crusade like a certain "Aunn poster", I only brought up what I had to say because I was asked to say it. If anything you acted really "underage" by getting so flustered over that. Of course I got mad at you. You're being a fucking idiot in the face of me trying to prove what I was trying to say, which is what I was asked, which you just ignored and said I was ignoring you, though you apparently misread what I said in the first place. You could've just said I like Nue/Seija, whatever, but you wanted to make it an argument about why it was "possible" when it's not. I mean, you could've just said I just like the ship and I'd probably say I don't, which is what I did in the first place. You made it an argument over whether it made sense or not and I argued it didn't. Go figure

>>19877941
She hasn't made any friends. Why are you deluded into thinking "oh but she could make one"?

She couldn't. It's said she can't. I said she could maybe work together with Nue but not in anything resembling a normal capacity, which is again supported. I suggested with Mamizou it wouldn't work out. The burden of proof is on you on how Nue would somehow break the proven trend of Seija not truly joining with anybody else without an eye for profiting off of their misery

Imagine being so retarded that you think Seija is an edgy contrarian that can't interact with others.
Good thing true Seija fans actually know their shit.

>>19877942
>>19877952
Fuck off Reimuhater >>>/vg/

>>19877954
Seija is an edgy contrarian but I never said she couldn't interact with others. It's irritating to know fanon will continue to perpetuate, like "Patchouli likes Marisa", or "Reimu doesn't despise Yukari". Yep.

>>19877962
What?

These two are so cute together.
I love how it's also canonically possible.

>>19877971
You realize I see Seija/Nue a lot, right? It's all over the place. You're not going to get a repeat or a rise from me. The only thing I cared about here, when it really came down to it, was a person telling me I was wrong with nothing to show for it.

Imagine shitposting a thread to death just because you get triggered at people liking a pairing.
Imagine trying to pass your headcanon as a valid souce in a fanon argument.
Have more SeiXNue

>>19878005
Do you know what headcanon is or am I just falling for you pretending to be retarded?

Why are they so perfect?
Why do they make secondary retards so mad?

>>19878017
You don't know what a secondary is either?

Still "I'm a retard" bait?

If you're going to try it, m89

try it right

Kobito a shit
She was just a dumb tool for Seija
Nue is cool and worthy of Seija's interest