/jp/ - Otaku Culture

IkaBey or KKK soon™.

>>19777758
I hope I'm welcome here despite only knowing Dies irae. Masadaverse seems interesting. Yes I know about Hajun. Yes I'm here for Pantheon, simply because the other works aren't translated anyway.

>>19777899
Don't worry anon I'm the same and I made the thread. It's probably going to mostly be DI discussion anyway since that's the only one that's translated for now.

7th Heaven best and cutest God.

/ourguy/ in HQ tomorrow.

>>19777768
Hope steiner can reveal what it is soon.

>>19777932
Nah, SJW Goddess best goddess.

Post ideas for alternate versions of existing characters
>Busty Rusalka
>Einherjar Rubedo Ehrenburg
>Bakasumi but not useless
>Female Reinhard
>Anna Shreiber

>>19778189
Non-Hadou God Reinhard
Sensory Mercurius
Eien Faust Finale and Beriah Ren (so non-Hadou God)
Kei infused with Cain's sword (Marie route)
Normal Shirou, Shirou with Rusalka's or Wilhelm's Powers

Aside from that, collaborations with Senshinkan and other Masada works would be good.

>>19778219
>>19778189
>tfw no simultaneous collab events with F/GO where Pantheon get's cute servants wearing LDO uniforms and FGO gets cute LDO members dressed as the F/SN cast

>>19778228
>Saber Beatrice
Hnnnnnggghhhh

>>19778189
I think it's a given that nearly every character will have an LDO outfit variant

If I never played a Light VN before which one should I start with to get a good idea of what they're like?

>>19778453
Dies Irae is usually the starting point. Though I'm an EOP and the others aren't translated so I can't really say whether it's the best.

>>19778189
>Ren with Beatrice's sword
>Yato + Legion
>Young Trifa
>Christmas Rea

I'd also like to see the Karl Kraft sensory in particular, or maybe give some of his other names some different visuals other than the trash bag

Regarding the Muzan debate last thread, I was thinking, maybe Remorseless isn't so bad after all. Think about it, when someone commits a shameful deed, most people would feel remorseful afterwards, right? And so, Muzan broke the holy law set by Mithra, and since he's such a shameless man, he won't feel an ounce of remorse. Hence, Remorseless. "A world where strength is everything, sinful people poisoned by cruelty and shamelessness, and if shame does not exist, nor does regret (a.k.a remorse)". Just my 2 cents.

>>19779090
I thought that was the point all along? Why the introspection? Did people not like the name?

>>19779201
>Did people not like the name?
Some people were worried that Remorseless isn't very fitting, since it loses some nuance.

What's the likelihood of Pantheon actually surviving a decent amount of time? Worse games have managed to survive

>>19779220
Depends on the gameplay anon. If the music and art remains as good as it has been and the story is above average for a mobage, all they have to do is make the gameplay decent.

As long as it doesn't suck, it could survive for a few years. If they blew it, it could go under in less than one.

>>19779220
I think it's quite high, the fanbase isn't THAT small. As long as we have a few dedicated whales, it'll likely stay afloat for a few years.

>>19779231
>>19779228
I'm kind of optimistic because games like SinoAlice have survived despite its gameplay being trash and having like 5 days of maintenance. Though at the same time I'll be pretty disappointed if it crumbles within a year or two, especially since the potential is there for a proper anime adaptation if it makes enough money .

I'll probably end up whaling regardless though if they make more than one version of Mercurius

>>19779090
>since he's such a shameless man
The tricky part is that he isn't.
From the Hajun's shrine in KKK:
>This person was born as a king of the just side of Dualism, a flawlessly good being, he resented himself for not being to completely destroy evil.
>Because we are just, the endless chains bind us. There are many things we cannot do. Even there is a move that would cause a fatal delay in war, we cannot do it unless it is just.
He wasn't some person who just decided to break the rules because of his personality. He suffered for the longest time, not being able to save his people, and in the end, arrived at the single conclusion.

>>19779220
Probably for some time, more important question is how often do you think it's going to be updated? Because the production of it has certainly not been the smoothest, i don't know the exact details, but we were supposed to have it by now if the milestones laid out last year was to be met

>>19779271
>Even there is
Even if there is.

>>19779274
I believe most of the fault lies with Super Appli, that's why light dumped them and found another developer.

>>19779271
>for not being to completely destroy evil.
Not being able to.
Damn, all those typos. I really should've read it a second time before posting.

>>19779298
They should have partnered with Cygames, spark your Hadou Gods every few months.

>>19779271
Well shit, that complicates things. But considering he's no longer an old man, and even his law's name has changed, maybe even more stuff regarding him has been retconned.

>>19779326
Didn't PAD start this trend? Sparking would indeed be pretty nice.

>>19779334
Could be, same with Mithra actually, before it was:
>I am good, everyone who disagree with my ideals are evil
To
>lol I want to see the beautiful colours from the struggle of humanity

Oh yeah, it's already the 31st in Japan. Last month the site was updated around 6:00 PM JP time, so, about 17 hours to go.

>>19779334
>>19779355
>he's no longer an old man
He will be an old man forever in my heart.
But, well, I guess things might've changed. Masada said that a lot of things are different because Hajun's shrine was about how people in cult saw those gods, so their impression wasn't necessary absolutely correct. We've just considered it canon because it was all we had.
>>19779376
Not sure if I'm ready. I might be either working or sleeping at that time. Well, you have another anon to translate stuff in that case.

>>19779417
Don't worry anon we got google as a last resort

>>19779355
Let's put it this way; a Law borne from a God that -only- believes that they are Good and Just and despises Evil would never give birth to a world where Evil is consistently winning enough to push Muzan to rise.

It would have been like Satanael's world.

>>19779484
But now we know that "evil" will always be present in Ahura Mazda, it doesn't matter if either side win, good will become evil or evil stays the same.

It could be that the side that was evil during Muzan lifetime remained unchanged for a very long time and good was always losing, thus his rise but if he had won, his side would've becomes the next evil.

>>19777758
Isn't it Shinra Banshou instead of Shinza Banshou?
I thought the series went by the two different names: Shinra Banshou (All of Nature/Creation) and Shinza (Divine Seat/Throne).

>>19779484
>-only- believes that they are Good and Just and despises Evil
Again, not quite.
>Those who attack me are evil. Wicked ones who should be destroyed. Hence, I am just. I do not have a single sinful thought, and should not have.
>There is right and wrong in this world. I need an evil to destroy. There are only two kinds of people. Otherwise, I cannot tolerate this war.
Well, it's still Hajun's shrine, so no longer canon, I guess.

>>19779556
No, it's lietrally called 神座万象 series. Divine Throne and Ten Thouthand Things, if you wish.
Also the Throne is just 座, 神座 is either Throne God or Divine Throne, I honestly don't know how to translate it. Basically, it refers to a Hadou god who holds the Throne.

>>19779541
I get the impression that the switch exists to maintain the dualism. Light will always cast shadows, and shadows won't be defined without light. Good and Evil are inseparable, therefore one cannot be wiped out. If we believe the idea that Evil is at an advantage because they lack the values that shackles Good, then they are most likely to win, but are not allowed to. When Good is on the verge of complete loss, the tables turn and they become the strong, the Evil and proceeds to reclaim what they lost. This repeats to maintain the balance.

Why such a thing though ?
If Mithra is the advocate of Good, then why can't Good just be stronger despite its shackles ?
As with Muzan, these are things answered by their life. It means Evil being the stronger one is part of her worldview while she was mortal.

The side of Good struggles, because it exemplifies Good not only by its shackles but by the light it shows in the face of adversity.

The side of Evil is numerous, not only because it can do anything it wants, but because possession of oppressive power serves to create the darkness in which Good shines.

>>19779572
And such words can only come from someone who is aware of the difference. She knows well enough that it works the other way around as well and it's purely a justification to keep on fighting.

If the 'wicked ones should be destroyed' is her divine will then which ever side branded Evil should be losing and Muzan wouldn't need to do what he did.

Besides, those has to be remaining sentiments from before her godhood, much like Muzan's.

At the end of the day, these are my 2 cents on the matter. I just believe people get read on Shinga's a little too literally. I always viewed her like Kei; justifying killing for their cause despite empathy because they cannot turn their back on the cause.

>>19779556
>>19779618
If you want to translate it, that would end being as the "Divine Throne of All Creation" or something along those lines.

>>19779556
It's specifically Shinza Banshou, which came about as a nickname from Shinra Banshou.

I am sure there's some blame on Shinra Banshou Chocolate for this more than it being meaningful.

Ah, my beloved dearest swan!
Behold this horn, this sword, this ring, and bestow upon him all three
For the horn shall aid him in his time of need,
and the sword shall deliver unto him victory most fortuitous
But this ring shall serve to remind him of me,
so Gottfried himself may know the name of he who freed you from torment and disgrace!
Beri’ah
Vanaheimr - Goldene Schwan Lohengrin

>>19779917
*dies*

Dies irae was perfectly fine with Acta Est Fabula. Even the 三つ巴 route from Amantes Amentes was superfluous.

And former gods certainly didn't need any more fleshing out then they got in Paradise Lost and KKK. Pantheon is a cashgrab travesty.

And worst of all, now the series is infested with fucking EOPs that don't even know its title.

>>19780115
What's wrong with more people getting into the series ?

>>19780130
He doesn't get to pretend he's a patrician anymore.

>>19780130
Sometimes when something is good already, as Acta Est Fabula was, you want it to stay that way, not get pointlessly extended by cash-grabs and EOPs that cash-grabs bring.

>>19780115
>>19780159
>muh sekrit club
pathetic.

>>19780115
The actual fight from 三つ巴 wasn't that good, sure, but Michael scenes were nice. Also, I'm pretty sure that most of the shinza fans actually wanted to know more about the first era, about the Throne's origins, and Naraka. Pantheon is not the best way to tell those stories, but, well, that's what we got.

>>19780159
Cry me a river anon, I always more since I learned that Paralost, DI and K3 we're all connected.

>>19780214
Can I fuck her in Senshinkan?

>>19780115
I don't know anon, I loved those sidestories and added content and I think they make a fine addition to the franchise. Ren vs Reinhard vs Mercurius was Kino as fuck too.

>>19780159
Yeah man sounds like a personal issue

>>19780316
One of the few things I'm complaining about Bansenjin is that Yoshiya didn't fucked her even when she want to have children with him.

OL Kriem-chan is hot as fuck.

What does Marie's law mean for Mercurius since he essentially only existed on the Throne? Would he be weaker or am I misunderstanding how it works?

>>19779572
>Well, it's still Hajun's shrine, so no longer canon, I guess.
I think it's a little bit too early to just up and disregard it like that. We've got the new scenario coming out in less than a month, that should probably clarify some things

>>19779794
That sounds pretty cool, actually.

10-11 hours for news bros. Get hyped.

>>19780115
>三つ巴
I liked the music, the art behind it and essentially everything outside the actual fight. Acta Est Fabula didn't even have some of my favourite scenes though, like the dance between Reinhard/Merc and Marie and Senpai. Or the conversation between Lotus and Reinhard. Or Marie's epilogue which hit me with a warm feeling which was destroyed and brought back by KKK.
>And worst of all, now the series is infested with fucking EOPs that don't even know its title.
I mean, you could just tell them.
>>19779417
>Well, you have another anon to translate stuff in that case.
It might be a bit late since I have to go back to my uni and sort out some adminshit. Worst comes I'll try to do it on my phone.

>>19781366
>6:00 AM where I live
Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to wake up earlier once in a while.

>>19781373
No need to rush it, dude.

>>19781388
Why is Beatrice so cute?

>>19781500
To be quite honest, she's more cool than cute to me.

Can’t wait for Beatrice lily.

>>19781516
>>19781500
What if she’s cute AND cool?

>>19781567
Beato is love.

>>19781575
Agreed. I want her to be happy with Kai

>>19781673
Kai was basically too cool for this world.

>>19781679
Zombie!Kai was pretty badass as well.

>>19778719
>Young Trifa
How would he attack though? Just go up to his enemies and mindfuck them?

>>19778189
>Einherjar Rubedo Ehrenburg
Don't you mean Albedo?

>>19781904
>Don't you mean Albedo?
Yeah, my bad. Ehrenberg from a timeline where he did beat schreiber and became Albedo would be pretty cool.

>>19780359
Sue me. I don't want subhuman EOPs in one of my favorite series. Too late now of course.

>>19782366
t. elitist

>>19782366
>doesn't want his favourite series to be more popular, and therefore better funded.
Ok.

>>19782743
It was good enough with AEF. It doesn't need funding.

>>19782734
No shit, EOP.

>>19779376
Hajun was right about Mary being a shit along with those other three fuckers, but he is wrong for his reasons.

>>19783288
>right about Mary being a shit along with those other three fuckers
Care to explain?

>>19783440
Her universe is boring. That was the tagline for Jashuumon iirc.

>>19783288
Wow, rude.

>>19783574
The anime was so very shitty, just look at the quality.

>>19783440
1. Marie wants to embrace everyone, but doesn't understand that everyone doesn't want to be embraced or have a higher entity forced on them.
2. Embracing everyone despite any and all wrongs they have done is wrong because you're not fully understanding them or the things they have done and being an enabler. This also removes any notion of self-improvement especially if the God is accepting you as you are.
3. People should live free as they want and to come to love themselves as they develop themselves.
4. Merc is a fucking ass and cuck.
5. Reinhard is the biggest asshole who goes on about loving everything.

>>19783707
Stop posting Hajun

>>19783713
Stop posting you cuckhold. The woman you love and your giant love script is a shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZRPtjfpwkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCK_v9n2O_0
Choose.

>>19783825
https://youtu.be/RKJur8wpfYM

>>19783800
>even when he loses, he wins.
How does he do it?

>>19783873
>if you cuck your enemies, they win
Was Trudeau one of merc's sensories?

>>19783873
Damn Snek looks swole in this pic.

>>19783825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfiqSESDpg8

How many hours left until we got news about Pantheon?

>>19784303
If it's at the same time as last month, 10 minutes.

IT'S TIME
http://dies-p.net/world.html

It's up. Merc, Marie, Reinhard and Ren were all added.

We got the update

http://dies-p.net/world.html

Kemono-dono

>>19784329
>Merc
Whoops, meant Hajun. Merc was already there.

Marie

Hajun

Looks like they haven't properly updated it yet. Maybe it was too soon?

>name of Hajun's law changed for a second time
What Masada is even doing.

>>19784386
Maybe they are still updating the web, I didn't see the Fifth Heaven and Sixth Heaven button, or they just forgot to add it.

>>19784346
>the background to Reinhard's throne looks like a giant skeletal snake
Nice

>>19784386
I had that problem at first too. Try opening it again

>>19784393
Yeah, it's working properly now. But where's Masada with the full Thrones on twitter?

>>19784393
Looks like a skeletal lion to me?

>>19784329
Ren's legs, it's so gay...

Literally about to leave now so I'll do the shortest one, which is Hajun, careful for typos it's a quick job

Hajun Daiyokukai-Tengudou - Mahamara
"Metsujin Messo - I just want to be alone"
The one who overthrew Tasogare(Twilight), the 6th generation god. His law aims for him to become alone, causing all of existence to kill each other. Throughout heaven and earth, the only existence worthy of respect is oneself, therefore everything save for yourself must die.A world maddened by narcissism, the worst law all successive generations.
Russian Kyoudai, I'll leave the rest to you.
>>19784389
It's the same.

>>19784409
Flowers

Looks like Ren and Reinhard aren't Throne Gods after all.

I thought They'd keep his old cross as the crest.

>>19784416
>Mahamara
I guess it's just supposed to mean Great Mara? I don't find anything else about the term, just the two parts of it

>>19784430
I thought so too, looks like it's the tip of the Longinuslanze now. Still pretty cool.

Marie's crest is her head? meh, a lotus representing samsara would've been better to me.

>>19784434
Since mara also means demon/evil, it would just means great evil or something like that?

>>19784423
Yeah, it says Ren doesn't think he's worthy of the Throne so he gave it to Marie and protects her, while Reinhard embodies Mercurius' desire for destruction, and if Mercurius dies so does Reinhard, making him unable to reach the Throne
Both are throneless gods basically

>>19784444
Isn't Amaterasu's crest a lotus already? The one in the loading screen.

Ren is a lotus, no surprise.

>>19784440
now that I look closer, theres is the rune Haglaz in it, I just checked the wikipedia for its meaning, connection with Christ with the lance and snake?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haglaz

>>19784434
Probably, Hajun's Kajiri/True name is Mara Papiyas. Fit's in with the whole narcissism thing.

>>19784461
That;s obviously Ren's

>>19784461
Ren and Hajun's crest are lotus, Amaterasu is a sakura flower.

>Masada hasn't tweeted yet.
Where the the fuck is he?

>>19784461
sakura flower.

>>19784416
>Russian Kyoudai, I'll leave the rest to you.
Finishing up some work-related stuff in like an hour, so I'll get to it soon.
>>19784434
Technically yes, but we're not translating Reinhard's Du-sollst Dies irae, or Ren's Also sprach Zarathustra, so there's not reason to translate Mahamara.

>>19784479
He's probably doing what he normally does outside of writing, working out.

>>19784462
That has less to do with meaning but more that it was found in the listed poems.

http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/meanings.html
It's Reinhard's rune in Dies because it's associated with destructiveness.

>>19784457
>forever cucked out of the Throne
Isn't it sad,Reinhard?

>>19784485
Oh yeah it wasn't a critique about translating it, I was just wondering what the word itself meant

>>19784346
Can't wait for all the other gods to shit themselves at the sight of Reinhard.

>>19784524
why? if nothing else, Hajun will treat him like a bug and step on him.

>>19784552
MUDAMUDAMUDA

>>19784346
Told you guys it would be skeletons everywhere.

>>19784552
Isn't Hajun without the Tumor one of the weakest gods though?

>>19784666
Look like what behind that big thing is his throne in KKK.

>>19784674
ZA WARUDO

>Acording to masada, Reinhard is a yandere and Hajun a hikkikomori.
kek

>>19784635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6-ZGAGcJrk

>>19784655
That's pretty metal.

>便座
Okay, which one of you did this?

>>19784691
>Hajun a hikkikomori.
Nothing new.
He's given dumb nicknames and shit to all his antagonists
Satanael is Bocchi
Snek is NEET
Hajun is Hikki
Amakasu is Baka

>No gameplay or explanation about how the game works
Bros....

>>19784660
>the most gentle but do not allows affairs
So she didn't liked to be cucked by Rea?

>>19784737
We'll probably get explanations for Hyper Rusalka and Oppai Rea next month, and actual gameplay stuff after that.

>>19784760
I'm sure there'll be something about it when people start having DI on Switch end of next month.

>>19784771
>end of next month
Not again...

>>19784651
Nah, he killed Reinhard, Maire, Ren and left Snek near dead even after removing it. Only Habaki can remove the tumour canonically and one shot him, and that required VERY specific events to take place.

>>19784741
No ones liked to be cucked except Mercurius.

>>19784791
You cuck him he wins
You don't he wins

神さまたちの相関はこんな感じかな… 真我：全員大好き！ 無慙：明星大好き！真我死ね！ 明星：全員アホやんけ… 水銀：黄昏大好き！ 黄金大好き！ 波旬死ね！ 黄金：全員大好き！ 黄昏：刹那大好き！ 刹那：黄昏大好き！ 波旬死ね！ 波旬：全員眼中無し

lol

>>19783707
>>19783288
>>19783800
That's good and all, but that's ignoring the fact that hers was the world with the better and faster advancement because it focused on personal growth, altruism and sinners feeling guilt and regret and changing due to it.

So basically the story itself disagrees with you.

>>19784878
Being Satanael is suffering, he's literally:
>What am I doing with all of these idiots

>>19784878
Satanael and Hajun confirmed /ourguys/.

>>19784878
I thought Muzan would love Satanael, he literally did what he couldn't.

>>19784943
明星大好き！

Well, that's what he's saying.

>>19784954
I know, it's just nice to have confirmation from Masada.

>>19784878
>明星：全員アホやんけ…
Based Satanael.
>>19784416
Sorry, I retranslated Hajun's one a bit, it's probably still far from perfect, but I think we'll deal with it later.

So, here. Not really edited, but it's something. I'm not sure about the names of the laws mostly, they might be slightly incorrect.
https://pastebin.com/UhXpLqSH

>>19781904
>How would he attack
He'd point and them/spoiler]

>All those people on twitter saying how Satanael has it rough
Heh

>>19784975
No problem my dude, it was a quick job and I missed some parts.
Also unsurprisingly Muzan loves Satanael. It's a bit odd since I can't recall exactly how Satanael became god in ParaLost, didn't he rewrite existence with Astmachine so that he was god? As in I don't think he and Muzan ever met/fought each other, since Muzan himself isn't the most perceptive of gods.

If we leave the divine names in Japanese, we should try to come with a short explanation of what they mean and their significance.

Shinga: 真我 Truth, True Self, the "ātman". In the Upanishads the ātman is the sole thing that starts all creation so it makes sense for her to be the First Heaven.

Muzan: 無慙 Merciless, Remorseless, Shameless. A buddhist term for someone who breaks a holy law without shame.

Myoujou: 明星 Venus, Morning Star. Basically Lucifer, as Satanael's own name. A fallen angel.

Suigin: 水銀 Mercury. The term refers not as much to the planet but the element. Very straighforward, its significance was already explained in Dies Irae to the minutiae.

Ougon: 黄金 Gold. Even more straightforward. The element contiguous to Mercury.

Tasogare: 黄昏 Twilight, Dusk, Melancholy. This one is also pretty much self-explanatory.

Setsuna: 刹那 Moment, an Instant. A buddhist-sanskrit term meaning the shortest portion/unit of time possible, a "kṣaṇa". It has the connotation of a very precious and short moment of time, something that fits Ren like a glove.

Hajun: 波旬 Devil, Killer Demon, Evil Spirit. A demon who destroys everything that is good. Usually refers to the demon "pāpīyas", who at the same time is conflated with the sanskrit word "māra" and the Devil King of the Sixth Heaven (which makes even more sense with Hajun, him being the Sixth Heaven of the Throne). A monster who tries to prevent humanity from attaining enlightenment.

Shokou: 曙光 Dawn, Daybreak, the first light of the morning. It can also represent the hope after a horrible night (see above) and looking forward to the future.

>>19785479
Stan is the most normal guy there, everyone else is some variant of crazy or airhead.

>>19785743
After Para Lost I would not call him normal either. He is too obsessed with purity and sterlizing everything. He is basically a clean freak.

>>19785773
>He is too obsessed with purity and sterlizing everything. He is basically a clean freak.
Basically, super OCD. So he’s as bad as the rest. Wonder how messed up Amaterasu would be?

>>19785607
This picture gives me high NTR vibes
>Marie: The cucked
>Ren: The cuck
>Reinhard: The bull
>Hajun: The bull: BBC edition.

>>19785832
Amaterasu is going to be genki to the point of crazy.

>>19785743
Nah, you have to be nega-autistic to even be a god.

>>19785853
How genki are we talking?
Because I can handle some pretty high levels of genki.

>>19785853
>Fever-chan all day every day
Not sure if I want this or not

>>19785963
World-shattering levels of genki.

>>19785838
Reinhard only cares about Karl and Hajun only likes to masturbate alone. It can't be more far away from NTR.

Right I'm going to call some shit in advance
Characters introduced in each heaven
First> Mithra> 7 kings of Good(including human Muzan(forma del viejo hombre) ), 7 kings of Evil, first generation Naraka sensory
Second> ParaLost cast, including human Satanael, and Judas
Third, Wildcard, don't even know if Naraka had a sensory, he probably did and that resulted in the creation of Big Snek. Or Masada goes full meme and includes no characters because lol Bocchi
Fourth> you already know-Shirou
Fifth > Jashuumon's cult leader(still confused about how that's a thing with Shirou still existing, unless all sensories are autonomous) and probably more members of the cult.
6th> you already know
7th> whichever group Amaterasu and Rea(la forma perfecta) belong to, which probably includes the protagonist who will dick them both.

>>19785557
I probably remember the details even worse than you, but in general, you're right, I think. Muzan just kind of conceded the Throne to Satanael since the later managed to actually realize Muzan's ideals. I really need to reread paradise lost at some point. Along with the Milton's one.
>>19785832
Don't know about "as bad", honestly. Habaki described Satanael as a "being closest to the universal image of a god".

>>19785959
This. You have to either be incredibly autistic or have an incredibly fucked life to even have a Beria'h. Being a god is the same but a hundredfold.
For that matter Beatrice seems incredibly sane compared to any of her comrades, even those who didn't have a strong enough conviction like Lisa and false Spinne seem far less sane.

>>19785974
>Third
All the characters from there are made of Salt.

>>19786004
Is /v/ actually the Third Heaven?

>>19785969
Imagine the sex

>>19786004
Perfect for a gacha game.

>>19785986
That’s because Beatrice is best girl, which comes with its privileges.

>>19785986
I guess she wanted to win the war that badly,

>>19785959
>>19785986
Marie turned out all right?

>>19786034
Marie's even more of a retarded, embraces everything without think. She's a slut I tell you. A slut!

>>19785607
It's impressive how well Setsuna and Hajun fit with their name.

>>19785986
Newfag here. So gods are literally created from autism?

>>19786034
Marie is a good natured kind of retarded.

>>19786047
Go back to scratching your tumour, Hajun.

>>19786034
>Embrace everyone, and happiness to all!
She’s the childish type of autist.

>>19786060
Hajun is literally /ourguy/

>>19785969
>not wanting Hyper Rusalka
What are you, a faggot?

>>19786034
She just wants everyone to get along but multiplied by thousandfold, basically she'll kumbaya you into submission.

>>19786050
You need to have serious autism to become a hadou god.

>>19786050
A Beria'h is literally your desire becoming so strong it warps the world around you
A Hadou God it that except your autism is so powerful it overwrites all of reality

>>19786098
I, for one, don't want any kind of Rusalka. I want Satanael, (not anymore)old man, Rindou, Yakou, Soujirou, and not-Rea. Well, and Rea. Or Tokoyo. Any version, actually. Nakanoin is fine too.

>>19786199
What about Mithra?

>>19786199
>Nakanoin
really see people like him, what did it for you?

>>19786223
fuck me. *rarely

>>19786162
>she'll kumbaya you into submission.
...

>>19785974
>whichever group Amaterasu and Rea(la forma perfecta) belong to, which probably includes the protagonist who will dick them both.
Is it formed that the player character is male?

>>19786250
Nah, I've just heard that oppai rea is the main heroine, akin to Mashu. And that's from the nip side of things.

>>19786271
>oppai rea
>not amaterasu
Goddammit. She's probably going to be an incredibly bland and safe waifubait cockblock like mashu as well.

>>19786302
>implying she won't be nanten 2.0
Anyway it's just speculation from the nips, I haven't heard anything official. Besdies you could have a scenario where they bothmaybe three love MC, kinda like how all 4 heroines just love Ren and whoever he picks he cucks the other 3.

>>19786302
She’s probably another Hadou God. Could Amaterasu be two people?

>>19786314
>4 heroines just love Ren and whoever he picks he cucks the other 3.
small snek is what big snek wishes he was

>>19786320
>tfw not notRea is Tsukuyomi
I dig it.

>>19786351
>notAnna is Amaterasu
>notRea is Tsukuyomi
>MC is Susanoo
Deepest lore
what's the Masada equivalent of throwing a flayed pony into someone's shrine

>tfw I want Trifa, Wilhelm and Rusalka
How much rerolling do you think that will entail?

>>19786320
Amaterasu's heaven is run by a bunch of Gudou Gods wasn't it ? It wouldn't be a stretch if they just added more aside from Pink Neo-Amaterasu. Hell, they could be having god-children for all we know. (hajunbrotherniece.png)

>>19786590
How many kids is Habaki going to put into Rindou?

>>19786559
Depends on if they are 3* or 4*. If they are all 4* and it's FGO drop rates than you'd have a one in 30 000 chance of getting 3 4*s, and then they're not even guaranteed to be the ones you want depending on the size of the character pool. Best to wait for rateups to reroll or just hope you get them through the course of play. I want most of the DI cast so I'd be pretty happy regardless of who I get.

>>19786632
To clarify a 1/30 000 of getting three 4*s in a single regular 10-roll.

>is unkillable
Is Habaki going to be the Cu Chulainn of DIP?

>>19786632
How happy would you be if you’re cursed with Spinnes forever?

>>19786686
I would cum buckets
And make a second account because some variety is still nice and you probably can't have multiple characters in one team

>>19786663
His distortion has a limit, but like Shiroi's we haven't seen it yet. Outside of healing wounds, tanking a shit ton of damage, deflecting/using/mixing distortions, he can come back from the dead an unknown amount of times. That's him as a human, probably a fuck ton stronger as a Gudou God.

>>19786632
FGO rates are the worst i've seen in a mobage so i hope this doesn't happen

>>19786850
There are mobages now with far worse rates than FGO.

>>19786632
>>19786850
Usually it's
>1-2% for a 6*
>8-9% for a 5*
>90% for a 4*

And then there is the normal gatcha with 1-3* with like 5%/15%/80% rates. FGO is just fucking abysmal though and not only are the rates bad but the currency rate itself it's awful, you will be lucky to get half a ten roll in a month outside events whereas any other mobage gives you 2 per month.

>>19786207
I liked her image back in KKK, but with all the new info I'm honestly not sure I like her. She might be an interesting character still.
>>19786223
Well, he was pretty cool both as the arrogant noble and as the Hajun's sensory later on. The scene of his awakening as the Hajun's sensory was really good, though I only really noticed it after reading KKK for the second time. Though he was not there for a huge part of the story, his monologue in the Hajun's shrine and his incredibly emotional fight with Habaki were well worth it. I'm really looking forward to see how he would be in pantheon, since every state of his character was pleasant to read and hear.

>>19785607
Thanks dude. I'll add these, plus the TLs to the pastebin when I come after work tonight.

>>19779334
>>19779355
>>19784975
How exactly we got those like this and not transparent? >>19784430 >>19784444 >>19784462 >>19784474

>>19787059
*come home

>>19787060
Someone on twitter does that, I think.

>>19787059
>TLs
Add a note that the last part isn't edited yet, I'll work on it later when I'll have time, hopefully in a couple of days.

>>19787059
Thanks anon, I don't know if there are others but I like the japanese divine names and heavens more than the translated ones.

>>19784666
>mandala still in the background
Pretty neat.

>>19787118
Sure.

>>19787170
They do have a nice ring to them.

The name of that God is the Gold.

A Godslayer born from a God's Apoptosis, a desire for self-destruction. Having lived for far too long, the Mercury fell into despair and desired his own death, creating the Gold as a being that could slay him.

For this reason the two are as parent and child, bosom friends, and simultaneously both irreconcilable enemies and inseparable companions that share their fate with one another.

As the Gold is the incarnation of the Mercury's desire for self-destruction, should the latter perish, so would the former. For this reason, while the Gold achieved the status of a God, he could never claim the Throne.

The name of that God is the Twilight.

The Fifth God that inherited the title from the Mercury, who abdicated the Throne in her favor.

Her Law was that of a world where all life reincarnates in a cycle of eternal transmigration.

The most striking characteristic of her Law was that as one experiences countless lives in the cycle of Saṃsāra, the souls of man gradually became mixed and intermingled.

As a result, the discrimination of race, sex and wealth became faded as the differences between people diluted. Over the course of many ages and incarnations, the souls of mankind would grow and mature.

In addition, across all ages, the Twilight's Fifth Throne was the only that allowed the co-existence of different Gods.

The name of that God is the Moment.

An artificial lifeform created by the Mercury to facilitate the growth of the Twilight as a god.

He later shattered the shackles of his born purpose and awakened as a God, but realizing that his Law would only plunge the cosmos into eternal stasis through the stopping of all time, he deemed himself unworthy of Godhood and yielded the Throne to the Twilight.

As such, he serves as her guardian and the shield of the Fifth Throne.

The name of that God is Hajun.

The God of the Sixth Throne who defeated the Twilight and stole away the Throne from her, his Law was that of a world where all lives kill one another until only one remains.

Bearing extreme, maddened egotism, he believed himself to be the only existence that bears any kind of meaning in the entirety of creation, and decreed that everyone other than him are to die.

His was the single most terrible Law in the history of the Throne.

>>19787265
>>19787299
>>19787318
>>19787324
Did you took them from Zack on twitter?

Rank the Thrones we've seen so far.

I like how this translation reads, though Ren's one completely omits the transcendence part that's supposed to be a nod to his rune in dies, which is the same as Mercurius', transcendence. Also Marie's one has some parts that are not in the original.
I guess we can use this one instead if everyone likes it.
>>19787397
Satanael > abyss of sin > everyone else

>>19787397
Snek > OCD > Not-so-old-man > Yandere > Colors! > Hikki > Slut > Nichijou

>>19787527
It's more akin to the VN translation. So we can use that one yeah.

>>19787397
Snake > Satanael > Gold > Tasogare > Hajun > Shinga > Muzan > Ren

>>19784660
Tasogare feet...

>No more news until the 27th
Fellas...

>>19787397
>Snake
>Satanael = Old Man
>Reinhard
>Hajun
>Marie
>Mithra
>Ren

>Rea route is canon Dies Irae ending
>Ren still ends up with Rea in Marie's route
>Pantheon main heroine looks like Rea
Is it just me or does Masada really like Rea?

>>19788720
Masada is actually Rea in disguise.

>>19788720
Now Marie also gets a Ren as their god selves are alive again in Pantheon.

I hope we'll get Tenmas as team members.

Do you think we Will get something like this, but with actual heavens? Like First Heaven is weak against second heaven, which is weak against second heaven and so on?

>>19788919
I wonder if we will get something with Hadou and Gudou too.

>>19788480
I wonder if we can sustain the thread until then. Well, even if it dies during the middle of the month, I'll make sure to make a new one around the time light happy cafe airs (usually around the 22nd).

>>19789027
That's alright then. This general is pretty comfy though, no need to rush things.

>>19787397
Muzan > Satanael > Mercurius > Mithra > Reinhard > Hajun > Marie > Ren

What's the translation of サオシュヤント・デサーティール (Switch's port new scenario)?

>>19788480
Yare yare

https://twitter.com/YoxalLoyal/status/1035570258508042240
Non-transparent close-ups.

>>19789566
Saoshyant and some other zoroastrian/avestian term I can't identify.

>>19789606
Shouldn't Mithra be duality?

>>19789664
No because she is said to be Keter in that short story with Naraka and all of them.

>>19789800
Then what about Marie and Sephiroth? Shouldn't the later be justice and Law, which would mean Marie would have to go another way?

>>19789566
>>19789626
Saoshyant is the avestian messiah who will destroy all evil for good at the end times.

I don't know what デサーティール is, but the only non-DI source I can get is one about iranian and avestian myths (http://uchuronjo.com/cosmo/iran.html).). Other than that, I can't find the word.

Updated. Suggestions welcome.
https://pastebin.com/g7rbqkTM

>>19790090
Looks fine.

>>19790090
Missing the original japanese names for the heavens, you could put them like:
>Supreme Golden Sky of Asura's Realm/Shurado Ougon Shikoten
>Hajun’s Tengu Realm of Great Desire/Hajun Dai Yokukai Tengudo

but that's only my opinion, apart from that, it looks good. Have a notRea.

>>19790132
I just noticed now but those two have the cherry flower symbol in their hats and a sun on their belts.

>>19790132
Huh, what's the japanese name for Mithra's Law?

>>19790154
善悪二元真我
Zenakunigen Shinga?not sure if that's the reading she just used to be called nigenron 二元論
Rough translation would be "the duality of God and Evil" Don't know where I'd put Shinga in there though.

>>19790154
Damn it, I should learn more how to pronounce kanjis.
Can't really help you for Ningenron but I have the others
>Daten Muzan Rakudo
>Myoujou Hisouten
>Eigo Suigin Kaiki
>Shurado Ougon Shikouten
>Tasogare Rinne Tensei
>Mugen Setsuna Daiguren Jigoku
>Hajun Daiyokukai Tengudo

Also, I know Metsujin Messou means Absurd Destruction, but is there a deeper religious/historical meaning to it?

I swear to God if Pantheon comes out before the end of the year, I'll make a tattoo of one of the crests.

>>19790235
I'm not an expert but I think it's a distortion of Buddhist terminology.

I know that:
- 滅尽 (Metsujin) refers to the act of destroying wordly desires.
- 滅相 (Messo) refers to "extinction, as when the present passes into the past. Also, the absolute, unconditioned aspect of bhūtatathatā; to mark of extinction".

Maybe there is some full meaning that is avoiding me, but something along those lines.

>>19790361
>>19790235
Metsujin is also completely eliminating something.

>>19790361
>>19790417
Thanks, that'll do.

So when does the OST for the anime get released?

>>19790614
You mean uploaded, because it has already been released.

>>19789566
>>19790066
>>19789626
Oh god at fucking last, I hate katakana for weird obscure things.

デサーティール is Desatir. It refers to this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasatir-i-Asmani or http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/dasatir)) a prophetic zoroastrian ancient text that it's probably a forgery and written in some kind of heavenly language.

So the full name for the side story in the Switch version is 『神なる座に列し伝わる救世主（サオシュヤント・デサーティール）』 that translated would be "Saošyant Dasātīr - The Savior that comes to the Divine Throne".

Now I need to sleep.

Is Dies Irae banned in Germany?

Alright then lads, what's your favourite chant?

>>19791202
>>19779917

>>19787299
>eternal reincarnation
>elimination of differences and literal communism
I would like to be wiped from existence. That is a living nightmare.

>>19791239
Stop there, you will cut yourself.

>>19791202
アクセス――我がシン
まず感じたのは『悲嘆』――求めしものは救済
なぜ奪い なぜ殺し なぜ憎む人の子よ ああなぜ 私はこんなに罪深い
ならば清めん 原罪浄化せよ――悲想天

warning shitty translation incoming
Access――My sin
At first I felt sorrow, then I sought salvation
Why do you pillage, why do you kill, why do you hate, oh children of man? Ahhh why is that I am so deeply stained in sin?
Therefore purify the original sin and wash it away――Hisouten
>>19791239
As a prime lawfag Satanael is the only worthwhile heaven besides Amaterasu.
1st = Sucks if you're good, as seen with Muzan, a perpetual war where you have no way of winning and your people suffer because of it.
2nd= Sounds nice in theory, people aren't inhumanely evil and morals still exist, but it's still a shit show in practise ala ParaLost
3rd= Nothing wrong, you live, you die, no suffering just pure joy and a paradise where everyone is happy, at-least that's how it was in the end of ParaLost when Satanael becomes god.
4th= Pretty fucking bad unless you're Shirou/Reinhardand some how Ellie
5th= Boring
6th= Pretty bad, but I wouldn't actually say it's the worst. Looking at it from the outside, yeah. I'd say it's better than Snek's, Non-existence>The same existence repeated adinfintum
7th= Objectively the best. Actually doesn't do shit to anyone whilst they're alive and only functions as an afterlife for when they die. AND they get to choose where to go or ask Yakou to completely extinguish their souls.

>>19791314
You don't feel anything at all in the 3rd heaven. You just become an autonomous machine.

>>19791314
I never read Paradise Lost, why is Satanael becoming God the true ending if he's the main villain?

>>19791239
>World so good that Naraku was shitting himself and being extra salty for having no longer being able to continue his dead waifu's legacy
Differences don't disappear, people mature and accept them while moving on and developing non-stop.
>>19791314
Marie's world reaching the point of technology and magic coexisting and almost reaching Throne levels of technology in the span of what? 10,000 years? There is plenty of excitement beyond violence and war. And it's not like you'll remember anything after you reincarnate thus you get a fresh start with new unknowns if you become unsatisfied with the previous one.

>>19791334
That doesn't sound too bad to me. But then again I'm a massive lawfag.
>>19791401
Because he offers an actual happy ending, Muzan's world is horrible in actual practice, so bad that Muzan himself loves Satanael.
>>19791408
>And it's not like you'll remember anything after you reincarnate thus you get a fresh start with new unknowns if you become unsatisfied with the previous one.
That's fair and all, I should have clarified. Perpetual existence just doesn't sound appealing to me, at all. Maybe I'm looking into it a bit too deeplyor not enough, with you know the main goal in buddhism/hinduism is to escape the cycle of Samsara/Reincarnation, Marie's law prevents that from happening, there's no end goal. Maybe Masada will do something with that in Pantheon.
It's kinda why I emphasised heavily with Machina in Dies Irae.

>>19791314
>>19791314
In Kajiri they pretty much say that Satanael's world was sterilized and devoid of anything. It's just wrong on a different level. It's like the world of a clean freak were everything is just preserved and clean in a transparent bag.

>>19791465
>so bad that Muzan himself loves Satanael.
What does Muzan say about Bocci specifically?

Merc and Marie's worlds aren't even bad. Unless you remember why you'll suck for eternity in the former's case, but that usually doesnt happen unless you're ren or reinhard.

Snake's plan:
>Cuck me and I win
>Don't cuck me and I still win.

Why was he so based, lads? There is no timeline when he loses.

>>19791522
>In Kajiri they pretty much say that Satanael's world was sterilized and devoid of anything
See that's where things get confusing, we see what life is like after he becomes God in Paralost, and it's not nearly that bad. I'm just going to chalk it up to Jashuumon's perspective until we see it in practice in Pantheon.
>>19791539
We just got that tweet with Masada post the God's affinity charts. As to why Muzan loves Satanael, he completely got rid of evil, which was the core of Muzan's desire.

>>19791550
It's what you get after decillions of loops.

>>19791567
I just think that ParaLost doesn't fit that well with what the franchise is now and it was retconned. What Jashuumon said fits pretty well with the explanation given in the Pantheon website of the Third Heaven being a dystopia and a sterile salt prison. Masada made pretty clear already that it's not a beautiful world.

>>19791567
The entry in Pantheon's website outright says it's a sterilized dystopia and a salt prison. There is no way around that.

>>19791586
>What Jashuumon said fits pretty well with the explanation given in the Pantheon website
>>19791610
Fair play, though it simply might look different in practice, kinda like Muzan's. Like I said, Pantheon is probably the way to go.

>chants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ipw7Osu9W4&t=2s

Wait a second, since Pantheon follows Marie's route, doesn't this mean Mercurius kind of shits on Ren, Reinhard and Marie?

Their Taikyokus were 80 here.

>>19791610
>salt prison.
Netsiv Melakhl!

So from what I'm getting, Muzan is a Lelouch?

>>19791622
Why is Hajun so fucking chuuni?

>>19791630
We don’t know yet. The new scenario will answer these questions on switch.

>>19791539
Merc’s feel like a lottery. It would be great if you got to live a great life but if you had a shit life you’d have to live that shit life over and over again for eternity.

>>19791698
>if you had a shit life
Then it's your own damn fault. And you would never realise it.

What if the Pantheon gameplay animations were Darkest Dungeon style still shots

>>19791767
If the sprites are drawn by G-Yuusuke, I don't really mind, though it would be nice to have skippable Noble Phantasm style special attack animation.

Guesses on what kind of fodder you fight? Psuedo-Gudou gods?

>>19791792
minor deities pantheons(like what snek had), the L.D.O equivalent/opposing Qliphoth followers, I don't know.

>>19791792
Maybe minor entities related to the throne.

>>19791792
Muzan's era will be angels. Paralost is already a thing so this speaks for itself

Mercurius had gods like Meth.

Masada pays a lot of attention to culture, myth so expect dieties like even greeks and norse gods.

>>19791809
>>19791890
What exactly are gods like Methuselah and how did snek's law give birth to them?

>>19791767
Wasn't pic related supposed to be one of the game sprites?
This is really old though, from when Light was still working with super appli, so it might not be relevant anymore.

>>19792004
Dust Angels?

>>19791948
From what I recall during the earlier parts of Mercurius' reign, he had an age of gods where every natural phenomena had an associated deity. Darkness was Methuselah, lightning was represented by a fierce war god and there was even an Earth mother goddessfire water air etc all had Gods as well, but over time their mystery decreased and they eventually perished, except for Methuselah, since he was the closest in nature to Snek.
>how did snek's law give birth to them?
I can't recall the how, but that his law just did through introducing an absurd amount of mystery into the world. The Deities themselves came from the primordial beliefs that people held to those natural phenomena, i.e Darkness represents war, evil, sickness etc., lighting is personified by a fierce war god, the Earth Goddess is kind and amicable. Mystery was at the level where castles were floating in the skies, phantasmal beasts roamed the earth, and magicians would sink entire continents in their battles.
>>19792015
>Dust Angels
The fuck is a dust angel?
Do you mean 天使/Angel or 反天使/Anti-Angel?
And that's Claudia.

>>19792143
Shit had to look it up
ダストエンジェル
it's another word for Anti-Angels, I really need to reread Paralost.
Whilst searching for that I came across this interview with Masada.
>Q_第三天が神格になる以前いた世界（『PARADISE LOST』）のキャラと、『神咒神威神楽』キャラで強さを比較するなら誰と誰がどれくらいわたり合える……という指標はありますか？　『Dies irae』と『神咒神威神楽』ではもう言及されているので、『PARADISE LOST』にもお願いします（オシうつあなかしこさん）
A_『PARADISE LOST』のキャラは強いよ！　でも、どれぐらいだろう……『Dies irae』の大隊長よりは強いと思ったほうがいいですね。でも、ラインハルトよりは弱い。『神咒神威神楽』キャラは蓮やラインハルトの域に届いていないので
According to him the Angels in Paradise Lost are stronger than the three battalion commanders, though are weaker than Reinhard.
The KKK cast, barring Yakou, are all weaker than Reinhard and Ren. Makes sense since Keishirou, outside of Yakou and Habaki is probably the strongest member of the EE, and even he's weaker than Wilhelm.

>>19792189
>The KKK cast, barring Yakou, are all weaker than Reinhard and Ren. Makes sense since Keishirou, outside of Yakou and Habaki is probably the strongest member of the EE, and even he's weaker than Wilhelm.

The angels would have been pretty OP in DI then.

Which version of Reinhard (and Ren I guess) is being referred to in both these instances? God mode or Briah?

>>19792273
Most likely Briah.

>>19792286
Wait. The KKK cast, (except Madara) never surpass Briah Reinhard and Ren? Even as Gudou Gods?

>>19792273
Ber'iah most likely for all cases.
Though ParaLost seems more ridiculous with future revelations in the series, such as how Belial/Nacht was so abusrdly powerful he was comparable to God, but whether that means Muzan, we don't know anymore. Probably. Masada proabably has all that shit mapped out in his chuuni mind, but he's also said shit like Kuubou being stronger than the Dust Angels/Anti-Angels, and is on the same level as Tenma Ootake.
>>19792291
No, the question most likely was based on everyone at human/non-god level. Gudou Gods >(infinitely above) Non God Ren and Reinhard. God Ren/Reinhard >(infinitely above) Gudou Gods

>>19792315
>Senshinkan collab
>Huanglong animated
Best timeline

DISCE LIBENS!

New thread: >>19792414

>>19792417
Anon don't make new threads until page 10. This one will still be on the catalog for another day at least, this isn't /vg/.

>>19792417
Dude, page 2.

>>19792381
>Huanglong animated
Good taste.

>>19792410
You know, I've been wondering.

How can Mercurius still use any of those attacks after he stopped being the throne god? Isn't Disce Libens and all the others from the world of foreknowledge, which as of Marie's rule, no longer exists?

Snake's legion is pretty much gone

>>19792445
Meteor Rain: Mercurius converts one hundred million of souls into hundred of meteors and throws them at his enemy. Simple technique that doesn’t even extend to a single strand of his hair, but even one meteor is comparable to entirety of Reinhard’s Legions.

Sequere Naturam: Supernova Explosion. Mercurius compresses stars of soul density 10,000 times stronger than Meteor Rain, there’s no doubt that trillion of people in the past were killed by this act. After reducing them to the size of his palm, he releases them as a large heat wave of cosmic scale, surpassing unit of moment. It’s a divinity that killed Mercurius’ predecessor (Satanel).

Dura Lex Sed Lex: Great Attractor. Gravity anomaly occurs in the hyperspace, causing collision in the Zone of Avoidance. There’s no safety after facing this suction head-on, fate of being crushed is definite.

Aurea Mediocritas: Grand Cross. Stars of the Known World are arranged in the shape of cross, interfering even with multidimensional parallel universes. Great surge of power is generated after sudden change in tidal forces, destroying even Gods from inside, without leaving a single trace; bringing phenomenon that’s hundreds of millions times more powerful than in reality.

Omnia Fert Aetas: Elementary Particle Time Paradox. Mercurius reduces entire multiverse into elementary particle and sends it into time axis of past bringing paradox of two worlds existing at the same time. In order to resolve this contradiction, ultimate logic orders destruction of two worlds, removing anyone in the crossfire from root of all parallel universes and causality. Nothing more than deterrent force of cosmic unit; thus, showing great effect against cancerous cells (Apoptosis). It was originally technique of Ast from Paradise Lost.

Disce Libens: Dark Celestial Body Creation. Mercurius compresses all stars and souls under his reign into black hole which wipes out his entire territory and shatters Throne itself. At the point of condensation Big Bang occurs, trapping unfortunate target in the singularity. Since it uses his entire army it can only be called his synonymous existence and thus, can’t be resisted without matching his Divinity and finding end point (embracement of Marie) of his law.

Amantes Amentes―Omnia Vincit Amor: Marie's Atziluth, Hadou type, law that emerged from craving "I want to embrace everything". Management of Rinne Tensei. Culmination of her wish to hug and treasure every life that is and will be. Realization of this desire is a world where everyone will become happy someday.

Rinne Tensei: law of Reincarnation, place where any soul holds potential for prosperous life. Fulfilling their own definition of happiness, this doctrine respects freedom of humanity, by embracing both, saints and sinners. However, in the afterlife feelings of remorse take lead and sinners promise to change for better. While memories are cleared after soul transmigration, it doesn't mean that previous selves were pointless like in Eigou Kaiki. Rather, Rinne Tensei accumulates experience achieved in previous lives to make current one even better. Because of its huge productivity and unmatched progression of civlisation, this world evolves very fast and would ultimately exceed civilisation which created Throne.

Coexistence of Hadou Gods: perhaps the greatest trait of this law is coexistence of Hadou Gods, feat achieved only by Twilight. Normally, Hadou Gods collide regardless of their will, thus only one Hadou God can exist in the Throne. However, Marie's Rinne Tensei can embrace them all and share her territory with others, effectively coexisting with each other. This works even on newborn Hadou Gods; in case new Hadou God occurs, he will voluntarily withdraw after being embraced by Goddess (though there's one exception), unable to taint something so beautiful. These Hadou Gods will become her Guardians, protecting her in the face of danger. Nevertheless, this ability has limits, as holding three Hadou Gods was her limit (it's unknown whether this limit is related to number or mass of Hadou Gods).

Memory of Throne: due to Marie's high degree of acceptance, she's the only Hadou God who can reenact previous laws in their perfect form. However, as she never demonstrated this ability, it's unknown how she expresses them.

Kamunagara: power vision of Hadou God, phantasm mocking existing universe, symbolizing God's Divinity and authority. Marie's Kamunagara takes form of cherubim.

So is everyone reincarnated as basically the same person each time in marie's universe or did she just make a special exception so that the LDO members could have one last meeting together?

>>19791465
>escape the cycle of Samsara/Reincarnation

Honestly it doesn't ever sound like your soul will completely escape anything as long as the Shinza is in effect. The Throne system itself is a cycle. The God is in effect bound to the Throne, being part of said God no soul is going to leave this domain. No Throne God is going to able to offer an escape except to yet another partition of its universe-body. Unless you get deleted by Hajun and believe it's a happy ending.

Seems like the significance of Marie's world is that they prospered for long enough to get too close for Naraka's comfort. If they actually managed to reach the truth of the Throne as a civilization, there might have been an 'escape' there, but Hajun had to happen because Naraka has other plans.

The best part?
Secret best girl will be back in some form

>>19792551
Would the slightly-above-human characters like the ones from that story fill the niche of 1* characters?

>>19788720
All routes lead to Rea, it's her law.
http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies/support/data/count03.zip

A Senshinkan collab would be pretty weird, considering Shinza is fiction for them.

>>19792749
I just want it for the Amakasu shenanigans with Reinhard and the other gods.

>>19792749
This can be mitagted through 1 of 2 ways:
>one
Rosei have the abilities to travel through dreams, Shinza as a game series must have begun as a dream of the creator, therefore Roseiand their Kenzoku, can enter Pantheon
>two
Senshinkan actually somehow takes place in the 7th heaven with one of the Gudou gods, perhaps Ryuusui, detailing the history of existence as they know it, for some reason in the form of a video-game.
Alaya acts as some primordial being that predates all the gods, and as the precursor God.
OR
They just make the event not "canon" wink wink

"I am the root, I am Taikyoku, I am all things in existence(Shinra Banshou). Furthermore, I am nothing, zero. I am that which resides in the heavens and the one who is seated in the very depths of Naraka. I am everything and simultaneously one. In other words, I am you. Someone who you would never come across, even if given an eternity. If I were adapt it to your language, you could call me Arayashiki (Alaya)"
Arayashiki is the Japanese phrase for alaya-vijnana

With how meta Masada got in Senshinkan (especially Bansenjin), I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled something like that. But it's a faint hope.

>>19792880
This gives me major Nasuverse vibes.

>>19792887
It's because both Nasu and Masada used alaya-vijnana as a a basis, but applied them in very different ways.

>>19792749
>Is this a Shinza reference ?

This remind me I still need to read Bansenjin, is there anything linking to the overall Throne stuff there? How does it add to Hachimyojin?

>>19793557
>How does it add to Hachimyojin?
It's a sequel, I won't say more since the overall thing is something of a mystery. But I can tell you that it's good, real good. I'd say better than Hachimyojin, but there's quite a lot of SoL, if you enjoyed the reality bits in Hachimyojin you'll love the ones in Bansenjin.
> is there anything linking to the overall Throne stuff there?
Not overtly or implicit really, but you do find out more about Alaya and Rosei themselves. Like I said, it's a mystery for the most part so give it a read.

I'll always preface this by saying that I am pretty bias when it comes to Senshinkan, I'm probably in the minoirty when I say I enjoyed it a lot more the DI. Of-course your enjoyment of Bansenjin is contingent on your overall feelings towards Hachimyojin.

>>19793579
I see, thanks

I wrote a long post about why I think that Bansenjin isn't better than Hachimyoujin, but is roughly equal to it, and then my browser crashed.
So, have Rusalka and Nanten instead.

>>19793726
>Bansenjin isn't better than Hachimyoujin, but is roughly equal to it,
It's genuinely close, but honestly Nanten is probably what swings the scales for me, that and the Nobuaki subplot.
I really liked Jinron, but even I don't think he compared that well to Amakasu
Actual spoilers in there lads.

>>19791630
Yeah, but that would mean KKK happened, which would also mean 100 Taikyoku value Ren happened.

>>19793769
It doesn't seem the Ren now in Pantheon is Yato.

Yato will probably be a different gacha.

>>19793726
>those shadow hands
Rusalka knows what's up.

>>19793769
Evoked from the Throne memory by Hajun past gods were such a shadow of their past power that Gudou gods were able to fight them. We have no reason (yet) to think that resurrected from the Throne memory by Naraka Ren would have a Taikyoku value any higher than he had at the end of the Marie's route.

>>19793913
This makes me think, what'll become of the Ren that's chilling in the afterlife?

>>19793879
Imagine pulling Rusalka's ahoge.

>>19793941
Who knows, honestly. Yaoyorozu is bullshit that can technically bring back everything, even if it was erased by Hajun, but if the Throne god changed, we have no idea what happened to the whole system with multiple evoked laws and Yakou managing souls. If Amaterasu is still alive, it means that the Throne was passed down to Not-Rea willingly, but the law is probably not the same.

>>19793948
Would she become Rusalka Alter?

>>19794041
I can't even imagine Rusalka Alter.

>>19792004
I'll be happy as long as it's not chibis.

>>19794050
Maybe her adult form?

>>19794088
They showed this recently, so I don't think is chibi.

>>19794162
Good. Also hoping it's not portrait mode.

https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1035901771783188480?s=19

>>19794181
>portrait mode
Don’t even dare suggest that!

Is that sum Habaki I see ?
https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1035901771783188480

>>19794192
>that Habaki

>>19794192
>that expression
I'm in love.

>>19794206
What do you think?

https://twitter.com/masada_takashi/status/1035904411703238656?s=19

>>19794216
Nice. Can't it be the 29th already?

>>19794192
>Not-Rea has emotions
I am disappoint. Not really.

>>19794231
27th*

Anyone mind giving a TL?

>We may actually not die until the 27th
Pantheon bros...we did it.

Nice, they're keeping the texts and portraits style from ikabey.

Fuck, I don't want to buy a switch just for that extra scenario, my only hope is that Light will release it on PC later. I don't want to beg others anons to spoon feed me.

>She sees your dick

>>19794260
He says that the KKK cast (that not-Rea mentions in the screen) would be in Pantheon, and yet again calls Habaki "Sohayamaru". You don't want to know why. No, really.

>>19794216
This will be in Switch version, right? So they made a new UI for it.

>>19794371
Why? Giggle.

>>19794260
Bottom
>People often ask me about them, so I'll just go ahead and say it: don't worry, they're all in Pantheon.(referring to the KKK MCs mentioned in >>19794216 : Habaki, Rindo, Shiori, Ryusui, Yako, Sojiro)
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>The fact that the screenshot (>>19794192)
was enough for people to understand what Basedahamaru did is getting a good laugh out of me.
"Sohayamaru" is how Habaki calls his dick, and Masada is jokingly using it on the guy himself. People are assuming that Sohayamaru made a dirty joke.

>>19794405
>>19794371
Based

>>19794405
>>19794371
Heh. Thanks dudes.

>>19794405
>Basedahamaru
*Sohayamaru
No idea how that happened.

>>19794405
>"Sohayamaru"
Well, if we're explaining it, should also mention that Sohaya (騒速, and a lot of other names) is a half-legendary sword that belonged to Sakanoue no Tamuramaro, who was the basis for the Habaki's character.

>>19794440
S-o-y is filtered to based. Got a laugh out of me, to be honest.

I wonder if Habaki will shit himself if he see his kyoudai again and well...

>>19794455
I know the filter, I just don't know how I ended up writing söyahamaru instead of sohayamaru.
Oh well.

Add this to the next OP, below Dies steam page.
https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1041
Also, please change all Iraes to irae, it triggers my autism.

>>19794162
I thought those were old, there's also one for Beatrice.