/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sekai/Denpa/Maiden
Koikuma - New round of QA starting, 2018 release
Dracu-Riot - Through 1st round of QA, fixes from QA next before more QA
Nanairo Reincarnation - In QA, waiting on a third party
Baldr Sky - 50% translated
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - 100% translated
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - 50% translated
Riajuu Plus - Release "within a couple months"
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 33% translated
Creature to Koi Shiyo!! for Otome - Waiting on a third party
Miko no Kanata - Picked up
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
Tenshin Ranman - QA and engine work next
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
CyberRebeat - QA done, need fixes
G-senjou no Maou - Denpa version announced
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
Rewrite+ - 35% translated
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Senren * Banka - Picked up
Ninja Girl - 100% translated
Island Diary - Announced
Love Duction - 100% translated, needs engine work
Koi ni, Kanmi o Soete - Expected to be release ready this month, dependent on Valve approval
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - Picked up
Sumire - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 2 - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 3 - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 0 - Picked up
Re;Lord Volume 2 - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work
Majo Koi Nikki - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work
Harumade Kururu - 75% edited, awaiting engine work, 2019 release
9 -nine- - 100% translated, 0% edited, awaiting engine work
Tokyo Chronos - Kickstarter ongoing

Frontwing
>Island - Released
Sharin no Kuni - Targeting a September release
Loca-Love - Fall release
Lilitales - Picked up

Sol Press
>Sakura Sakura - Demo released, upscaling finished, QA started and expected to take a month
Yotsunoha - Q3 release, starting QA, demo Released

Nekonyan
>Sanoba Witch - 100% translated, 80% edited, October 26th release
Hello,good-bye - 60% translated, 25% edited, November release
>Fureraba ~Friend to Lover~ Mini Fandisc - Fall release, 50% translated
Fureraba Complete edition - Vita exclusive content to be added to Fureraba a couple months after the fandisc release
Suki to Suki to de Sankaku Ren'ai - Early 2019 release
Melty Moment - Aiming for a release next Winter
>"Two big titles" to be announced this Thursday and Friday

Cherry Kiss
Harem Guild - Upcoming release
Nekura Ijimerarekko o Tasuketara Natsukareta - Picked up
Tenshi to Akuma to Elf ga Oyome ni Kimashita - 1/3rd translated

Fakku
Hemoimo - Dropped by SakuraGame and no longer being released on Steam, upcoming Fakku release planned. Currently waiting on beta build
Love Cube - Picked up

Other
Tayutama 2 - August release, R18 patch planned but may not be ready at launch
Punchline - August 31st release
>Neighbor - Late September release, 100% translated and edited
E-Gene - 1st entry planned for Fall 2018
London Detective Mysteria - Fall 2018 release
>If My Heart Had Wings Flight Diary - Announced, work ongoing
Magical Charming - Release planned
Song of Memories - 2018 release
Venus Blood Frontier - Prefundia up, Kickstarter in August
Angel Beats - 50% translated
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
Seven Days - Picked up
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

Seems like Summer Pockets was picked up by a fangroup: http://www.alkatranslations.com/

https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/1032424489940742144

>>19749628
Damn they are really getting ready for that DDP money. Maybe they will translate the rest and be done for another 4 years.

Among other news, the next title to be butchered by SakuraGame is Midori no Umi.

But the good news is that Lamunation! seems to have dodged the bullet:
https://twitter.com/Kepposhi/status/1032919571039055872

Nekonyan
>"Two big titles" to be announced this Thursday and Friday

Hints going around:
>Both will be from new partners.
>But none by Favorite.

lol

>Sengoku Rance - 100% translated and edited, in beta shortly
>Rance Quest - 100% translated, 87% edited
>Rance IX - 100% translated
Do we have any idea what the release schedule for these will be like? I know that the release dates haven't been announced for any of them, but what's you guys' best guess?

>>19750838
No idea, I only remember asking once about editing and QC time and that can take quite a long time since testers have to test every possible thing and scenario.

Then I realize what implications are there for huge games in general

>>19750838
If they rush while still giving themselves time to pace them out then it is possible they could release one a year. Sengoku is possible for christmas if they stick a reasonable sized testing team on it and no big problems show up.
It is more likely it will be early next year though.

>>19750129
>>Both will be from new partners.
>>But none by Favorite.
Post proof. The only hint I've seen was that one of the games would be plot focused.

>>19750129
Aokana for sure

>>19751150
I hope not. The game deserves a good localization with its cursed history.

>>19751204
true. better give it to SakuraGame

>>19751227
I suppose it is either SakuraGame, Nekonyan or Sekai Project who got it, since MangaGamer probably won't touch a title from a company that's possibly nearing bankruptcy and JAST just don't give a shit, so maybe Nekonyan getting it is the best scenario we can hope for, but it would still suck if they did.

If Nekonyan did manage to get it, I wonder what their other game will be since they said it is a plot-focused game.

Luckydog1 translator has gone on a tumblr rant detailing her translation process. I assume its fueled by some people calling out the translations quality.

http://terracannon877.tumblr.com/post/177257489225/rambling-mood

>>19749172
Sekai Project's CyberRebeat came out a few days ago.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/825320/CyberRebeat_The_Fifth_Domain_of_Warfare/

>>19749327
Visual Arts poll from awhile ago specifically asked if fans wanted Summer Pockets translated. This seems like it'll either get a C&D or if it's any good Visual Arts could buy it up.

>>19751293
>MangaGamer probably won't touch a title from a company that's possibly nearing bankruptcy
Wait what? Aren't they making a sequel?

>>19752053
http://aokana.net/news/2018/06/26/2835/
All projects are indefinitely suspended.

>>19752070
Oh well RIP I guess

>>19752005
Out for 2 days. Only 1 review. And it's negative.
Yikes.

>"Two big titles" to be announced this Thursday and Friday

Making*Lovers for sure!

>>19749628
What the fuck? JAST moving fast?

>>19751293
I can't see SP licensing anything right now

>>19752307
I don't know why you would expect this. Also like I said here >>19751293 if they did get Aokana then their other game is a plotge.
>>19752326
Why not? They have a convention just around the corner.

>>19750129
Looks like Steiner might be involved in one of the NekoNyan announcements, knowing him it's most likely a chuunige and Masada related title.

MangaGamer's Top 5 Chart:

1. Treasure Hunter Claire
2. Evenicle
3. Sweet Switch
4. Hapymaher
5. Rance VI + 5D

Another week with gameplay titles dominating the chart and with Rance VI+ 5D joining the chart again on 5th place.
Sisterly Bliss is out of the chart and Koropokkur has yet to show up.

>>19752384
Lines up with what he said in the previous thread. >>19712877

>>19752384
IIRC, Sisterly Bliss did better than Sweet Switch did in preorder sales, so its overall sales might be better too. It'll probably be about the same though.

Either Hapymaher got a spike from MG begging in Otakon or its tail simply lasted longer than the various small games that filled the weekly sales chart. It makes getting the fan disk down the line a bit more plausible.

Rance VI sales might be helped by newfags who are introduced to Alicesoft through Evenicle because of the Nan art.

Koropukkur not being on the chart isn't surprising since it's an all ages game. Based on the claims on the kickstarter (that MG paid over half of the dev fees before the KS and that MG will use 56% of the base goal for dev expenses), they probably need to make 20k to break even. Assuming the vast majority of the sales are on Steam, they need to reach 1.9k sales to cover dev costs, which isn't unreasonable, but not exactly guaranteed either.

>>19749172
>Sakura Sakura - Demo released, upscaling finished, QA started and expected to take a month
If you're going to have 2 scripts, then extend the QA to be twice as long. Or better yet, scrap the completely useless meme script, which has last names forcibly changed to first names ala 4kidz and shit like >>19749388. In Newton, there was a conversation in which Yotsuko went on about how she'd changed how she addressed the MC, because she felt estranged from him after not seeing him in many years. I was curious how the "default" script handled it, and the whole conversation was rewritten to be about the groucho glasses she wore instead.

>>19752311
Translator said it took her less than 3 months.
https://twitter.com/verdelishJP/status/1029159783532658688

>>19752471
Cut them some slack. It was their first release.
>>19752627
We still don’t know how long it will take them to release it though.

>>19752647
>Cut them some slack. It was their first release.
No, Don't cut them any slack. Make sure you voice the problems you have with their release so they improve while they are still a new company or else you'll just end up with another Sekai Project.
>We still don’t know how long it will take them to release it though.
Didn't they say at AX they were going for a 2019 release?

>>19752647
I wouldn't boycott them over it, but criticism is fair.

>>19752668
Don't trust JAST when it comes to release dates. Even when they set an exact date, they semi-frequently delay the actual release by a week or so. 2020 is already optimistic.

>>19752384
>with Rance VI+ 5D joining the chart again on 5th place
nani

>>19752471
>and the whole conversation was rewritten to be about the groucho glasses she wore instead.
Lol. My opinion is strongly that Sol Press shouldn't waste effort on a non-honorifics script if they have to make stuff up like that.

>>19752647
>Cut them some slack. It was their first release.
And it was probably the best first release a localization company has ever had. It was on the same level as what the others release nowadays (though it had more mistranslations) That's the sad reality of this industry. In the album I posted, there's at least 12 "legit" script errors. Let's be very generous and say that the first 3-4 hours were the worst part of the game, and the rest only has 6 errors every 4 hours. That's another 30 odd errors in the rest of the game.
I want them to realize how much better it could have been if they only had one script to go through. I can only imagine what the final product would have looked like if Steam approved it right after they submitted it. Xeviax said
>All 6 people gave it the green-light before release (we didn’t rush QA or give them external hard deadlines)
Either the QA team is shit, or they didn't have enough time to go through both scripts. Scrap this idea. It might look good on paper, but it only hurts you and your customers.
>>19752834
No one mentioned boycotting them.

>>19751293
This.

I already mentioned that SP wasn't the one to get it since they are undergoing financial difficulties atm and they got outbid by someone else.
Initially, I disregarded NN because they are a rather new company, and because I overheard "chinese", but it must've been something else...
So this time is either SG or NN. Both are rather likely too. SG because they tend to overpay for their licenses and Sprite could use the money, and NN because it lines up with Sprite's Twitter announcement.

Also I got fired. No more insider news from me.

>>19752311
Only for the licenses nobody gives a fuck about.
I don't get why so many people want Vio titles so much. He isn't even a good writer. You deserve Totono; maybe then you'll realize that not everything by Nitroplus is an uncontested masterpiece.

>>19752939
did you get fired for leaking shit

>>19752864
Is it any wonder that MG decided to announce 3 Alicesoft games both this and last year? I expect them to announce 01, 02, and 03 next year to keep the trend going. Maybe another non-Rance Alicesoft game too if Quof finishes translating Escalayer.

>>19753130
That and the fact that they're probably comparatively cheap to license given that many of them aren't voiced, or are only partially voiced.

That being said I hope they still do the 03 Remake, even though it's voiced.

>>19753130
I doubt it, it all depends on how fast they can release Sengoku and RQM, if both of them get released before Otakon next year then I would agree with you.
RQM already has some problems like character limitations thanks to the superior Japanese coding and a huge amount of images which need to be edited and translated.

>>19753142
>Rance 03 is fully voiced (not counting Rance who only has battle voices)
Ah, I was wondering why MG skipped it. Still, if it sells as well as Evenicle or Rance VI, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

>>19753130
>>19753142
JOPs keep saying 03 is really important for X so I'll be upset if they don't do it beforehand.

>>19753365
There is no fucking way Arunaru will let them release X before 03.

>>19753371
Ah, can't wait for "GL stands for Jill".

>>19753600
Arunaru did nothing wrong.

>>19753600
It can't be helped. Americans can't read names.

>>19752311
JAST moves fast when they see money. They did something similar with Flowers (before the trial debacle) and SoniComi when they wanted Steam dollars.

I'm more surprised they're not doing this for DMMD so they can start collecting fujo dollars.

Looks like there's a 4th Mahoyo translation now? https://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/20092-mahoyomahoutsukai-no-yoruwitch-on-the-holy-night-translation-chapter-1-15-complete/

>>19750838
SR for the last quarter of the year and Quest next year.

>>19754766
I'm glad I know french.

>>19754856
Its an english translation, not a french one

>>19754880
I mean, the main story is translated in french.
https://vndb.org/r24104

>>19754766
>1-6 translated
>1-1.5 patched
Huh?

>>19753130
Well Rance has a brand and name behind it that easily sells itself.

So I guess it depends on how well Majikoi sells in regards to doing S and A right? Or maybe they got the rights intending to do all of it?

>>19755763
A-5 in 2050, that's pretty good.

>>19756142
What's the purpose of this post?

https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/1033889939195396097

>>19756300
He's a /vn/ shitposter.

>>19756300
No idea. Half of those aren't moege and the other half aren't worthwhile.

>>19756605
Also a few of the ones listed as 'soon' are either unannounced, dead, or MTL. I guess it's what I expect from /vn/.

>physical kickstarter for 50k after release of Island with 0 warning
This is a horrible idea. Granted, at least they aren't holding the digital release of the game hostage, but still.

>>19755763
The game would have to be a runaway hit for JAST to do all of those fan disks. They seem like a licensing nightmare.

>>19756647
The marketing people over at Frontwing need to be fired.

>>19756605
>Half of those aren't moege
I only see moege in that image

>>19756605
>>19756624
Both of these, though "half" is an exaggeration. Plus this is /jp/.

>>19750838
Gotta imagine considering Rance 5D/VI may well be their best selling title (besides Princess Evangile cuz Steam and Humble) and they have so many Rance titles to get through, they'll want to push Sengoku out ASAP so they can plan and properly space out the remaining releases.

I'd say strong contender to make it as one of MG's remaining 2018 releases, then Quest around this time next year.

Further speculation seems pointless so far out, who knows if and what MG picks up of the earlier titles (everyone wants 03 at least) and where they sprinkle those releases between 8-10. X by end of 2020 is ambitious but possible, wouldn't count on it though.

>>19756142
Who is translating Onikiss

>>19756719
No one. Now stop giving him attention.

>>19753171
I forgot about the custom characters in Quest. Granted, they aren't necessary for the game, but character limits do have to be increased substantially to be able to name them with names like Christopher. If the problem is ignored in Rance Quest, it wouldn't be a big deal, but it would be bad if it were ignored in Rance X.

>>19756647
>with 0 warning

idk, I wouldn't say they didn't promote it beforehand though

https://twitter.com/FrontwingInt/status/1027555154936180737
https://twitter.com/FrontwingInt/status/1032462425386184705

>>19752292
I read it. The story's okay (10 hours max), but because it was a freeway title it has stuff like photo filtered backgrounds etc. It feels cheap. And it also has text rendering issues occasionally as well as text that sometimes overflows from the text box and at one point was cut off by the bottom of the screen.

>>19752292
>>19757032
It's hard to imagine people being motivated into buying an originally freeware title anyways. Supporting the dev is a ridiculous motivation when said dev gave away the game for free. I know the translation can't be done for free, so I don't fault Sekai for charging for official freeware translations, but translating and selling freeware is a bad business move in the first place.

When is the OP movie in Island supposed to play? I've been playing it a while and it hasn't played yet so I'm slightly worried that the movies in the game might not be working for me for some reason.

STRONGLY recommend Kami-sama no Game -Kankinsareta 6nin no Danjo-.

https://vndb.org/v18796

Came out last year from Xuse, has almost everything I want in a fap-centric eroge -- all the girls are high quality, edgy and dark plot but with a true love ending shit made me tear up.

Huh, first Princess Evangile and now Himawari. It feels weird for MG to single out one or two games for a sale. Though at least Himawari is justified by the Island release.

>>19756671
You should go to an opticians then. While it isn't half like the other guy said, some of those are closer to nukige or charage to be considered pure moege. All the Imotopara titles are an example, just look at the images and how each show off their bare tits giving away the more nukige focus.

>>19757015
>pre-order campaign
Is it really a preorder when it is already out? I guess technically it would be "preorder" for physicals but it doesn't seem a good way to advertise it.

Who wants to bet this will be a massive Supipara-tier flop? It barely limped past its modest Kickstarter goal (it didn't even reach the first stretch goal for multi-OS and dual language support but looks like they added them anyways), and I haven't seen anyone hyped for it anywhere.

I wonder who made the decision to fund an all-ages VN from an adult publisher, with probably the worst professional artist they could get. Did they think they could fool steamfags into buying it with the art alone?

It could sell literally zero copies and be less of a flop than Supipara.

>>19757820
Its not just that. It also unvoiced. And a fucking color palette sceam like indie EVN.
It can only be explained by a deliberate sabotage act.

>>19757903
No, I think it's a psychological experiment to see what steam retards are willing to support.

>>19757820
It's like they went out of their way to deliver the exact opposite of what their audience wants. The only people who'd even consider buying an all-ages moege with itaru art are steam normalfags, and they missed that boat by 3 years. It could have been a moderate success if they got a different artist - and not even a good artist, just literally anyone who's not itaru, and thrown in a couple of h-scenes. It's a shame because I'd like to see more MG-developed VNs, just without the retarded decision making. But Koropokkur's sales are probably gonna scare them off from making them for good.

>>19757478
It plays shortly after Setsuna lands naked on the beach at the start, so you probably missed it.

I'm into Island and it has science.
Fun game and the interactions between Setsuna and Karen are funny. Reminds me of Yotsunoha

>>19758343
You're gonna have to try a bit harder if you want to get paid this week.

>>19758357
DROPPED https://i.imgur.com/Sw9HS4j.jpg

>>19758029
Thanks. I'm not sure why it's not working since I'm playing it on Windows 10. Everything else about the game seems normal.

>>19758504
Well I fixed it finally, so I'll post my solution in case anyone else runs into this problem. I had to go into the folder where the game files are stored and find ISLAND.exe, right click it and go to Properties, then Compatibility, and check the box that lets you run the program as Administrator. Why that works, I don't know.

>>19757820
Eh, it only needs 2k of Steam sales to actually cover its production costs, assuming that MG spent about 20k outside of the kickstarter to make it (if you read the updates, you can see that it got an extra $3k from backer kit, getting enough to have compatibility with Mac and Linux, not that it matters too much). Koropukkur doesn't have to become a memege to sell that much; it's cheap enough that it might get that much just through impulse buys.

It definitely won't resonate with the MG store customers, but Itaru art is distinctive enough that I can at least see it breaking even on Steam. If the kickstarter backers were only 1/5th or less of its total customers, then MG isn't losing any money. That said, I don't expect them to consider making more VNs unless they get about 5k sales or something due to the risk of the endeavor.

>>19758008
I will agree with some of this, but it's only fair to note that their typical audience is more or less satiated with their current announcement lineup (I wouldn't call /vn/ their audience). Any gameplay title they could make would be overshadowed by Alicesoft or maybe even Kagura Games. With Koropukkur, they are trying to see if they can expand their current audience. I preordered it because I am simply curious about their experiment. If it's good, it's good; if it's bad, I'm only $15 lighter.

>>19757820
Wasn't this Kickstarter funded? So it can't do that poorly.

I wonder if this will do worse than Maitetsu?

>>19758343
Setsuna is definitely becoming one of my favorite MCs. Reminds me a lot of Taichi in Cross Channel, who's another one of my favorites. It's definitely a nice change from Himawari, whose MC was bland as fuck.

>>19757645
This might be MG trying to get extra sales since Steam is being retarded and holding many VNs in limbo.

>>19757820
>It barely limped past its modest Kickstarter goal (it didn't even reach the first stretch goal for multi-OS and dual language support but looks like they added them anyways)

I think it reached the goal for that via backerkit add-ons.

>>19758708
Kickstarter itself helps, but it isn't always guaranteed to mean it covers all the costs. The Libra kickstarter is an example of this with the company being out of pocket by over $40k even though it was successfully funded.

I wonder what titles Nekonyan will be announcing this week. It looks like one if them is a chuunige that Steiner is working on, but I'd be surprised if they didn't announce a moege because that's most likely what their core fans want since they currently only have moege titles in their backlog.

>>19759299
Maybe it's something like https://vndb.org/v7070, since it's chuuni but still has waifus.

Koropokkur was never meant for the MangaGamer audience, it was 100% meant for the steam buy fags, most likely due to sales on their own store being so low and most titles only reaching 3 digits numbers according to Doddlers comment yesterday.
Though as most people said here, MangaGamer is 2-3 years too late for the steam craze.
Also, I doubt MangaGamer is dumb enough and they haven't paid some premium price for their latest announced licenses (maybe for Lilycle Rainbow Stage due some high priced and famous VAs) like Sekai Project used to, so we won't see any big changes like people getting fired or them doing 2-10 hours nukige from 2011 again if it doesn't sell thousands of copies.

Long story short, with the steam craze ending it also means that the extra money which MangaGamer had thanks to it and used for getting ''better'' licenses ended too, so don't expect newer released titles or some bigger ones like Koihime Musou anytime soon, at least from MangaGamer.

>>19759410
This is going to bomb so fucking hard

Now that SP and MG are near bankruptcy, can we say the future of western localization lies on based NekoNyan?

>>19759410
3 digits for a short nukige sounds about right, but more popular titles can easily sell a few thousand, especially if they get hard copies. Harem Party, for example, had several hard copy runs.

>>19759341
>but still has waifus
Go back to facebook.

>>19759512
It's pretty obvious that plebbit is not leaving any time soon.

>>19759493
Go back to /vn/, Fureraba was an awful first release and I don't expect Sanoba Witch to be any better.

>>19759529
Fureraba was alright. I'd say is the best comedy vn translated, even better than Grisaia.
You guys just diss on it because of a few typos here and there.

>>19759536
>better comedy than Grisaia
I doubt that

>>19759536
I'm not saying it is a bad VN. I'm saying it was a bad localization. I would be complaining about SMEE if I didn't like Fureraba, not Nekonyan.

>>19759536
I dropped it just after they met the first girl. It was insufferable

>>19759550
They handled the comedy pretty well. I mean, I read the fan-translated demo of Lover Able, and it was terrible: humorless jokes because literal tl etc.

>>19759536
>I'd say is the best comedy vn translated, even better than Grisaia.
This has nothing to do with it being an bad release.
>>19759536
>You guys just diss on it because of a few typos here and there.
There's more than "a few typos", and you forgot the awful localization.

>>19759556
She's an amazing classic tsundere.

>>19759536
BAZINGA!
GET OUTTA MY SWAMP!

>>19759536
There are innumerable typos, even after they supposedly fixed it. This is the same team that gave us the abortion that was Hoshimemo, after all.

>>19759410
Steam craze never existed.

While nekopara has high "sales", games released at the same time usually only got about 20 000 sales. That is roughly the "market". And with so many VNs released, those 20 000 sales are split across plenty of titles.

If you honestly wanted more nekopara sales, you probably need to release a good monster girl VN or a good loli VN. So that you can sell it on "cuteness" and "lol look at what weeaboos buy".

You guys just hate Chuee. Accept it.

>>19759597
>or a good loli VN
I vote for https://vndb.org/v11855

>>19759614
Why do you think we hate Chuee in the first place?

>>19759623
I hope HaruKuru doesn't get Sekai'd too hard. Meru is a decent translator, isn't she?

>>19759567
you sound like a broken record

>>19759625
Envy?
He's got a great job and isn't a neckbeard.

>>19759644
>He's got a great job
Nice fucking joke.

NekoNyan´s announcement of Evolimit when?

NN staff here. Monobeno and Itsusora.

>>19759614
Yes and?

>>19759536
there wasn't a whole lot of real comedy in fureraba. Edelweiss, Rewrite and Cross Channel all have much better comedy anyways.

>>19759695
The majority of the 'comedy' in the VN (at least in the translation) was just characters yelling and their lines being in all-caps.

>>19759644
>great job
lmao

is that why he's angry on twitter all the time?

Why so many new IPs? Are /vn/ invading again?

>>19759738
NN shills, i guess, they have a discord server now

>>19759777
I greatly enjoyed Fureraba, and I want to see more titles from SMEE translated. That's all.

>>19759786
Hey, I enjoyed it a lot too. Doesn't mean it was a good translation, though.

Is NekoNyan /our company/, /jp/?

Stop flooding the thread with useless garbage or we won't even last for the SP announcements on Thur/Fri.

>>19759804
on trial

>>19759832
Just make a non-VNTL thread :^)

>>19759410
I would argue that a huge bulk of MG's recent growth was due to large nukige that they started selling about the time the Steam boom was going on. Most of MG's titles announced this year aren't even going on Steam, and Alicesoft, the brand that they are most focused on, barely has any Steam compatible titles. While I wouldn't expect anything crazy like F/SN, MG doesn't need it with Alicesoft at their beck and call. Rance X even happens to be one of the best rated eroge ever, and it's the best if you only count the median. They couldn't ask for more.

I personally think that if MG does another original VN, it would be yuri because there aren't a lot of notable yuri titles left to localize.

>>>/vg/226150646
>I'd give you a hint, but you only have a few days until the first announcement. Dies fans won't be disappointed about the second announcement, though.
Looks like Nekonyan's second announcement will be the chuunige, and it also looks like it will have something to do with Dies Irae although it's not KKK. https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/1034139996289155073

>>19760069
Good, I could use some sleep. DI made me sleep like a baby.

>>19759410
>it also means that the extra money which MangaGamer had thanks to it and used for getting ''better'' licenses ended too
The way Alicesoft titles are selling for them can probably cover the short gap to some extent. MG was never fully reliant on Steam money anyways since they only had a few titles that really sold well on it.

>>19760057
>>19760107
Yeah, while I'm not interested in a good chunk of MangaGamer's current licenses, right now they have the best licenses they ever had compared to a few years ago.
The only thing that I would add would be a bigger named nukige title be it from Lune, Atelier Kaguya, WendyBell or even from their current partners like Alicesoft (Tsumamigui 3), ClockUp (MAKO HUNTER or Kenzen!).
Hopefully Sideboob Story 2 and ImoPara 3 get announced next year.

>>19759536
>even better than Grisaia.
That’s a low-ass bar to clear.

>>19759661
Itsusora would be neat though i doubt its true

>>19760587
It would be a fucking mess.

>>19759487
They will make their money back. Japanese market and somewhat China may like it.
>>19760107
>Never relient on Steam
It does not hurt to have 18+ titles with free patches and receive money from Steam than to just have it solely on their own store. Multiple revenue streams is better than one. Especially if they are consistent.

>>19760587
>>19760604
Steiner can do it. We'd also get to fuck moogy-chan.

>>19760621
Steiner can't do shit.

>>19760614
It doesn't hurt, but the original poster was saying it was a key revenue stream to get better shit which I disagree with. Plus a lot of the big titles they have, out some of moege, can't even put on steam as imagine trying to make something like an all ages Euphoria or the amount of work needed to make Rance Steam friendly.
>Especially if they are consistent
Steam isn't really that consistent if a company is trying to hit it big or have a good return now the craze is over (outside of some established series). It is a game of chance for something to blow up because it hit the right conditions at the right time, such as some big streamer was bored and had nothing better to play or something.

>>19760614
It doesn't hurt, but the original poster was saying it was a key revenue stream to get better shit which I disagree with. Plus a lot of the big titles they have, outside moege, can't even be put on steam as imagine trying to make something like an all ages Euphoria or the amount of work needed to make Rance Steam friendly.
>Especially if they are consistent
Steam isn't really that consistent if a company is trying to hit it big or have a good return now the craze is over (outside of some established series). It is a game of chance for something to blow up because it hit the right conditions at the right time, such as some big streamer was bored and had nothing better to play or something.

>>19760656
Steiner is really bad.

>>19760656
I want Steiner to fuck moogy-chan desu.

>>19759529
Sanoba is going to be even worse since they're intentionally censoring it due to not liking certain content.

>>19761321
Really? Besides mosaics that is.

>>19761321
Do you mean mosaics? There isn't really a way to prove that unless MangaGamer pick up one of their titles and release it mosaic-free.

>>19761346
They've said themselves they have the original art assets, they just don't plan on using it because they don't like it.

>>19761378
Doesn't really bother me, uncensored art looks like shit most of the time and the mosaics in Sanoba Witch aren't really intrusive.

>>19761398
oh I hate mosaics and even I think these mosaics are fine, but not giving customers the choice to decide if they want a censored or uncensored product is a terrible thing, even if it's something abysmally small.

>>19761443
If you mean an option to turn them off or on, then Doddler already made a post about that and said that it would double the filesize of the VN.

>>19761443
It sometimes isn't that simple. Giving the choice can bloat up the file size quite a bit and so can cost them on the bandwidth side of things. Hosting bandwidth isn't free after all.
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/1016414886539100160

>>19761473
He's probably talking about an optional patch.

>>19761473
no I mean an optional standalone patch released on the website that a user can choose to download and replace current game files.

>>19761482
If they're spending a lot of bandwidth on the patch, then that means a lot of people want the patch, yes?

>>19761482
Not that anon, but why should I care about what they save or not on bandwidth?

>>19761493
and to add to this, if they REALLY wanted to, they could just have two different downloads. one for a mosaic release and one for a unmosaic'd release so the only difference would be the amount of server space taken up which shouldn't be an issue for an official publisher since it'd have no affect on bandwidth. It's such a fucking easy thing to do.

>>19761493
>>19761498
Because they will just put up the price of the base game if they have to add in extra "free" downloadable stuff that they never budgeted for. You still gotta pay someone to make the patch and then pay to host the patch and if that means the profit margin on the base game is affected then so it will go up. They don't magically make themselves.

>>19761530
>Buying their shitty meme translations
really now?

>>19761544
Who are you quoting?

>>19761544
Then why would they cater to you?

>>19761530
Also to add what I would like to see is for them to post an example uncensored image then we can see ourselves what the state of it is. Would hush down a lot of the hubbub over it if we saw how bad they are claiming it really is, but they seem to be keeping it close to their chest for some reason.

>>19761530
I'm pretty fucking confident the sales they make from including an uncensored version would far outweigh the cost of doing so since they would ONLY be paying the server costs associated with downloading a new purchase title which for a publisher is a literal non-issue. They don't need to pay anyone to put together a patch, they don't need to pay anyone to redraw stuff, they don't need to pay additional licensing. You could give ME the unpacking and repacking tools for the title and I could have it done in 7 minutes since literally all you're doing is unpacking the files, taking the uncensored art assets, and copying+pasting them to the unpacked directory, overwriting the old ones, and then repacking the title.

Unless yuzusoft is absolute garbage in their handling of stuff and has completely renamed every single cg to something completely different than they originally had which would make absolutely no fucking sense to do but if that were the case all you'd need to do is open up the cg's, find the name of all the ones with mosaics and rename the uncensored version to be the same which wouldn't take longer than 50 minutes.

>>19761603
>They don't need to pay anyone to put together a patch
Does it magically make itself and get tested then? It isn't a fan translation where people are just volunteers and anything goes. People are under contract and getting paid. It may be simple for anyone to make a patch but in an official release it requires a bit more than just that. You have to make sure it doesn't have any effect on anything else and has no unintended bugs when released. You can get away with it in a fan release but not so much in a official release.

>>19761665
now anon i'm sure a computer science major has no idea what the fuck he's talking about, but i'm pretty confident that replacing direct images with the uncensored versions would cause no issues unless there was a problem with the packing/unpacking tools which should NOT be the case since they have access to the OFFICIAL tools that the developers used to pack/unpack the title to begin with.

I know coding, I get it, shit breaks and it doesn't make sense why it breaks but it does however I'm pretty confident that everything would be nice and cozy with replacing images if you're utilizing the original developer tools. Not to mention it's not like any QA is done on VN releases since it's too expensive to spend 1,000 hours of QA to make sure the release is good.

>>19760864
>Plus a lot of the big titles they have, outside moege, can't even be put on steam as imagine trying to make something like an all ages Euphoria or the amount of work needed to make Rance Steam friendly
It depends I mean if Steam manages to make the 18+ filter work and there is no need to work around patches it could help with everything.
>Steam isn't really that consistent if a company is trying to hit it big or have a good return now the craze is over
The point is that it has an audience that does like Visual Novels and would like to read them. Unless there is specifically good plotge and art it may not even be that big at all outside moege and Yuri. If it was not true then I would think Mangagamer and Frontwing would not put visual novels on there in the first place.

>>19761735
You obviously are new to the way VNs work and the quirks messing around with them can cause. You also don't just replace shit and then not test it, you should know this if you did CS. Sekai project did that and look at how some of their releases worked out with shit breaking because they never tested a release after changing something minor.
Also as an extra note even in this thread there are people who were complaining about how Sol Press is wasting time and resources on multiple QA passes due to the way they do their releases.

>>19761745
Also I forgot to mention especially with the Steam Proton in Linux releasing as well it does make the job a lot easier for everyone to play Windows games on Linux it will only make the audience wider. Its crazy to think that Steam even managed to pull that off with Steam Play despite Proton being in Beta.

>>19761745
MG doesn't seem to trust Steam when it comes to the 18+ filter, and I don't blame them. I expect them to pull some bullshit like "Porn is illegal is Washington, so we can't have porn" and leave it at that despite the fact that they should have mentioned something as obvious as that in the initial announcement.

>>19761788
I was under the assumption that the QA complaints for Sol were because they created an honorific and non-honorific version of the title for some dumb reason and as a result had to QA two different scripts. Also Sekai Project releases come out fine, I can't recall the last time SP released a patch to fix one of their titles so none of them must've had any notable issues.

I'm sure the actual reason there wont be a mosaic-free patch is because they don't actually have the original art assets and were just lying about it for whatever reason.

>>19761852
>Also Sekai Project releases come out fine, I can't recall the last time SP released a patch to fix one of their titles so none of them must've had any notable issues.
You're trolling, right?

>>19761838
>and I don't blame them
I don't either. They had one of their titles pulled and still haven't had any news on if it will ever be put back. Valve seems to flip flop on what is allowed or not every 6 months so who knows what will happen in the future. In the meantime lots of VN titles across many publishers are in limbo with no real news other than "wait for the fitler".

>>19761852
>Also Sekai Project releases come out fine
Are you joking?

>>19761861
>>19761870

>>19761852
Some companies don't even ask for the mosaic free assets like Sekai Project where they lied about Chrono Clock and considering that all Yuzusoft's titles are in Sekai Project's and NekoNyan's hands we won't know until either MangaGamer or JAST get 1 Yuzusoft title.

>>19761838
Unless steam makes their won payment processor there's no way for them to allow 18+ stuff.
Banks would blacklist them, paypal would ditch them as soon as they openly allow 18+ stuff.
And lets not forget the whole media would tear them apart from TV to conservative Christians which would end with Valve paying millions in court fees.
I don't know where the idea came that Valve will allow porn now.

>>19761902
>Unless steam makes their won payment processor there's no way for them to allow 18+ stuff.
Don't they have a steam wallet, or whatever it's called? Couldn't they use that and only allow 18+ titles to be purchased with steam wallet funds?

>>19761902
Well there's a difference between porn and adult content. I'm sure it'll get to the point where so long as you don't see the penetration it'll be allowed. Which is how it was for Gakthun?

>>19761924
Yeah that'd technically work since you're not purchasing the title through a third party processor, you're purchasing credits and those credits can be freely spent on whatever you want without those processors having any knowledge of the transaction other than the credit load.

>>19761852
>Hoshimemo
>Leyline
>Maitetsu being such a disaster that it's doing worse than fucking Newton
>Every physical Vita release they promised in their kickstarters is probably fucked.

That's just recent shit. If you want older controversies.

>Physical kickstarter goods being long over due
>Let's release G-Senjou for all ages only with a voice patch that costs as much as the base game
>Let's announce an 18+ patch for G-senjou and hope people forget that we announced that in the first place.
>Stalling for months upon months before confirming whether or not Maitetsu would have an 18+ version with half-assed excuses
>Still technically not confirming or denying 18+ Baldr Sky
>Chrono Clock being only 84% edited upon release

>>19761861
He probably just doesn't come here much. Well, he could be a "paid promoter", but that's jumping to conclusions.

>>19761852
>Sekai Project releases come out fine
Hoshizora and Ley Line had technical problems and Maitetsu had even more issues by being merged with the all ages version at some point and no one noticed. It also had cut off lines.
Here is the description of the one Leyline had
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/a-clockwork-ley-line-a-visual-novel-trilogy/posts/2125462
Here is the apology for Hoshizora
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/lets-bring-visual-novel-hoshizora-no-memoria-to-th/posts/2083852

>>19761957
Gahkthun was allowed because the ESRB said it was okay, probably because (sort of) off-screen penetration is okay for an M game.

>>19761965
>>19761980
You can stop now anons, I was being sarcastic since I thought it was pretty clear that every SP release has been horribly handled to the point that I question why people continue buying their shit. Also there's no longer any "paid promoters" for SP since they fired all of them a week or two ago.

>>19762036
I guess they got bought by Nekonyan after Sekai stopped paying them.

>>19761852
>Sekai Project releases come out fine
LOL
https://twitter.com/sacredge0/status/945160532264407047
https://imgur.com/a/GaBQxSg

>>19762056

RIP in pieces Clover Day's TL.
https://cloverdays.wordpress.com/2018/08/26/reason-for-delay-and-im-sorry/

>>19762326

That post makes it look like its getting an official translation

>>19761838
>>19761870
It will the back. Valve did update the Steam friends chat and also did update the publishers page. Gabe even mentioned that there would be a filter system in a AMA. They even brought back Flash sales. My guess is they were already on it but due to what happened they had to tell everyone it would take months and everything is in limbo before they could get it done it might be they are fixing the upload system on the backend.
>>19761902
Ists entirely possible to circumvent the payment processor due to Steam cards and they also use PayPal amongst others.

>>19762381
What?

Are there any active translations on TLWiki, or is it dead?

>>19762357
Its been all but guaranteed for ages now. Especially with the guy being a contractor for SP and the head of the TL. Point 3 practically spells it out that the translation isn't coming out unless it goes official.

>>19761443
The "uncensored" art assets like most vn's are literally unfinished though and look like shit. I have no clue why people want uncensored h-cg's so often when the stuff under the mosaic was never meant to be actually seen.

>>19762468
Because they still look better than mosaics? Hell i'd prefer literally nothing being there rather than have mosaics ruin the entire CG.

>>19762326
How can a company be so incompetent yet still get so many visual novel licenses?
Point 3 pretty much says: ''Hey I've sold my translation to Sekai Project, but they are still negotiating with the developers for years now because they are incompetent monkeys. Please stay tuned for official news.''

>>19762483
Legitimately how autistic are you? Do you complain about the black bars on hentai doujins as well? If you're enough of a weeaboo to read VN's and post on here you should be used to that shit. Blame the Americans after WWII.

95% of all vn h-scenes are shit anyway thanks to the obnoxious squealing

>>19762457
Interesting. I assumed JAST would be doing clover day's, since they released Alcot's My Girlfriend is the President. If the person does work for SP, then that ruins that theory.

>>19762502
black bars look bad but are usually small and don't actually cover anything and don't disjoint the entire page with their presence. They also look better than pixelating 40% of the entire CG to the point you wonder why they even bothered to fucking draw the CG. Some of the companies have gotten okay at it where instead of mosaic'ing half the cg they instead only mosaic the actual genitals and it's not so bad. It's still bad and I'd prefer literally nothing being drawn but it's not bad enough to ruin the entire CG or dissuade me from purchasing the title.

>>19762517
https://mobile.twitter.com/astrokuso/status/591499050664402944
He seems to have changed his bio from what I remember, but a google search still shows that he is/was a freelance translator for Sekai.

>>19762430
mostly dead, theres sayooshi ongoing but the project is half dead

>>19762656
https://web.archive.org/web/20180603205157/https://twitter.com/astrokuso/status/1003378779887058945

> "description":"\u82f1\u8a33\u8005\u3067\u3059\u3002Freelance JPN-ENG translator for @sekaiproject. I also stream and make VRChat content. Member of the @VR_LoliSquad. PS: The pot is Anti-Headpat Headgear."

>But the good news is that Lamunation! seems to have dodged the bullet
Regarding that, it seems that some guy PM'd the dev and pointed him to MG, and he responded that he'll try to contact them. Pic related.

>>19762326
God damn do I hate sekai.

>>19762696
It would be really nice if people can point them to the right directions before the deal is sealed.

>>19762696
Monkey paw, MangaGamer gets the license, but White Powder goes bankrupt.

Oh I'm sure Aroduc was just being unreasonable and Sekai would actually fuck over a fan transl--

Oh, it happened again?

This is my shocked face.

>>19762497
To be fair, VN negotiations were never and still aren't fast even for MG or JAST. Well, MG never had issues getting Overdrive games because Bamboo is a higher up in both, and MG seems to be able to negotiate for Alicesoft (and Kalmia8) games that were released in the same year, but those instances are the exception rather than the rule.

It does sort of seem like JAST got Majikoi faster than Sekai got Clover Days or maybe JAST only bought the Majikoi translation when they were pretty far into the negotiations rather than Sekai who probably did it when they were just starting negotiations.

>>19762756
2-3 year delay is better than never ever, I suppose.

>>19762756
Does White Powder (AKA Steroider (AKA Hyperiyon)) just decide to change names every few years or so?

>>19762770
they did like 4 years of negociation for it

>>19762770
Peter Payne said that he was negotiating for 5 years with Minato Soft.

>>19762413
Wat.

>>19762770
VN negotiations have the possibilities of being fast though, from my experience.

>>19763368
How long did it take to get Newton/Sakura Sakura if you are allowed to say.

>>19763393
I can't give specifics on any particular title that we have, but I can say that I've licensed titles in less than 24 hours before on multiple occasions.

That being said, licensing can sometimes take months or years. There are a lot of variables, and you'll never really know until you're in the middle of it.

>>19763418
Since you're here and I was wondering this a few days ago. How will Sol Press go about doing future announcements? Do you just plan on doing what you did with Yotsunoha and just announce them seemingly randomly or do you plan to attend conventions and do your announcements there like the other companies?

>>19763445
I'd like for us to announce at conventions, and we definitely have plans for how we would host a panel.

That being said, until we start attending conventions we'll be making our announcements online.

>>19762547
This is not 2003 anymore. There's more than 100 pixels on every CG, so the mosaics can be more precise.

>>19762468
>The "uncensored" art assets like most vn's are literally unfinished though and look like shit.
What, for Sanoba Witch? Prove it. I don't buy into NN's excuse for it since they've been so inconsistent about their reasoning for not having an uncensored version.

>I have no clue why people want uncensored h-cg's so often when the stuff under the mosaic was never meant to be actually seen.
Not always the case. And in many instances it can be preferable to big mosaic blocks.

Bad art under mosaics is likely to become increasingly uncommon, though, as mosaics have become more and more minimal. The latest Clochette for instance.

>>19762696
>Lamunation!
Oh boy. You guys know it's really, really fucking bad, right? At least it's enjoyably horrible. It's basically a shitpost in visual novel format.

>>19762326
All hope is not lost

>>19760656
Why is this guy pretending to be a translator again? Like, I seriously don't get it.

>>19763866
He buckled down and grinded 4 years of Rosetta Stone and is now a god of Japanese translation

Why are they retweeting their competitor? Is ISLAND going to be on MG's store?

>>19763852
wew

>>19763978
>Why are they retweeting their competitor?
Did you forget that MG translated/sold the Himawari edition that was produced by Frontwing, and that Island is by the same writer & artist?

>>19763978
This is where you realize all the companies belong to one localization cartel.

>>19763996
and moogy is the don

>>19763852
That faggot better do it. I'd rather have a Dracu-Riot situation at the very least.

>>19764036
almost 3 years and it's still not out.

>>19762048
The quick transition from SP to Nekonyan really doesn't help the whole "Nekonyan is actually SP" conspiracy rumours.

>>19763978
Looks more like trading favours and >>19763993.

Localizing a dialect as a southern accent (or even inserting a bunch of words from british slang if it's a really thick dialect which gets pointed out by other characters) - Yes or no? Maitetsu got some criticism for completely ignoring the dialects, but I can't bring myself to like the alternative. What's wrong with a simple TL note?

>>19764152
Maitetsu's localization did it right. Most people playing would notice the different accent, and it's often pointed out by the characters anyway. I prefer to read consistently readable English.

>>19764174
sometimes accents can be pretty brutal to read.

>>19762326
>You are free to speculate but I am not confirming or denying anything because I honestly don’t know what’s happening with anything. All I know is that I’m not allowed to proceed with the project at this point in time and I’m not allowed to comment any more than that.
>I can confirm to you that Sekai Project is not involved
He probably contacted Alcot directly and they're keeping him on a leash.

>>19762036
>>19762048
The sudden lack of Sekai Project defenders on Reddit and Fuwanovel after they fired their PR staff is hilarious.

How long till Sekai closes the doors now?

>>19764442
A very very long time from now. The recent downsizing means that they'll have less expenses and be able to stay afloat easier from before so even if more people hate them they'll still make a profit from the minority of retards who always pay them. The best you can hope for is that they slow down with picking up new licenses.

>>19764442
Not until NekoSoft break off. Income from Sayori spamm is enough to sustain multiple flops every year.

oh hey, some random fuwa group seems to be translating Pure x Connect.
https://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/20944-pure-x-connect-translation/

>>19765675
Gee, I wonder who they're going to try and sell this translation to.

>>19765675
>honorifics
>zero Americanization
this tl sucks

>>19765675
The editor as an ESL Filipino and the translator doesn't know Japanese.

>>19765727
classic fuwa

>>19765745
Just did some more stalking and the translator is also an ESL Filipino.

>>19765749
Great. All we're missing is Conjueror saying it looks like a great translation.

>>19765727
>>19765749
Wasn't English the official language of the Philippines?

>>19765859
That doesn't help them with their English at all.

>>19765859
One of them.

>>19764174
I don't think they did it right at all, honestly. They did it lazily because the alternative would have been difficult for them to put off. I for one can't hear differences in accents at all so for me it just seemed like everyone talked in the same generic way.

>>19765842
"Well, it sounds unique, so I guess it's good! lol XD"

>>19765936
Would you really rather have this in every line? Just because you're either new to VNs since you haven't picked up on bits of Japanese, or completely deaf, that doesn't mean we should all suffer.

>>19766007
I don't think you know what a written accent looks like if you're using that as an example.

>>19766007
>ust because you're either new to VNs since you haven't picked up on bits of Japanese, or completely deaf, that doesn't mean we should all suffer.
It's not that. I've read plenty of visual novels. I just can't really hear accents very well outisde of my own language. It's the same with my French (which I can kinda sorta speak).

>>19766007
i don't think characters having distinct voices is a bad thing, the example you used there is perfectly readable.

>>19766024
This is a conversation about Japanese dialects. The difference is in the words used, not pronunciation.

>>19766045
no unique bad
dry homogeneity good

>>19764202
In the original he also talks quite funny.

The problem to me is that typically in these sort of situations you have a character with a Japanese name, often in Japan, talking with some American hick accent or similarly out of place change to speech. It just doesn't fit.

>>19766169
How would you translate it?

>>19766045
No idea what the setting for that VN is but i'd be quite put off by a character who's supposed to be Japanese using British slang.

>>19766242
Your average western fantasy setting, so that "Holier than thou/Ye olde English" slang fits, but only for this game.

>>19766297
He's talking about Harukoi Otome.

>>19766242
using this logic how can you even read english translations at all? i'm starting to understand why j-e translators just ignore the fans

>>19766306
Welp.
When I first started reading Harukoi, that character seemed like he was speaking some kind of Japanese dialect but they rewrote it to British for god knows what reason, and after hearing about him cooking takoyaki (which got changed to fish n chips) it became obvious.
In that case it would be normal to be put off by the blatant rewrite.

All this talk about Harukoi Otome reminded me that we won't get another BaseSon translation anytime soon.

>>19766169
Are you memeing? He has no accent whatsoever there. It's completely normal Japanese.

>>19766341
How so? Everyone talks like they're from America and one character speaks like he's from a different fucking continent.

>>19766442
It's a shame for Shin Koihime Musou fags, but also for that one girls love game Baseson Light has that seems to be highly rated.

Does anyone know if there is an option to change the font/font color in Lilycle Rainbow Stage? I don't know why the developers thought that changing the text box and font colors to the character's respected color was a good idea.

I really hope the MG release changes this, or at least has the option to do so in their release.

>>19766707
The only thing they'll change are the names of the girls.

>>19763751
You know that EGS scores don’t mean jack shit, right?

>>19766771
They mean a fuckload more than VNDB scores though.

>>19766755
Shiina Mayu > Mayu Shina
Shiina Mai > Mai Shina
Sakuraba Yuuno > Yuno Sakuraba
Fuck. I get they have their name autism and hate 'ii' and 'uu' but do they really have to fuck with the order of the names?

>>19766816
Reversing the name order has been the standard for many years. I don't know what the reason for doing it is, but everyone does it. I know, it's retarded.

>>19766826
Whether the first name or last name is the family or personal name should be pretty obvious by context clues. It's not rocket science.

>>19766922
Obviously, but how does that justify switching them?

>>19766929
I was criticizing how people try to Westernize names by switching them in the first place rather than just leaving the family name first.

>>19766799
Fuck no they don't.

Here are some of EGS's main problems.

-Whenever a high-profile title is released, most players are inevitably going to play it as soon as possible; likely within about a year of release. A game gets released, gets about 80% of its votes, and then the score may as well be locked. If you were to believe EGS, Baldr Force is of the same quality as Baldr Sky Dive2.
-Japanese eroge fans are insecure cucks. Not much else needs to be said about this; just look at the EGS page for Kakyuusei 2 and fucking try to tell me they aren't.
-There's a heavy bias towards moege. If a game appeals to retarded moebuta, it's going to get at least a 70-80 score because of that. Even if a plot-oriented title has objectively better writing than the moege, it's going to get a lower score.
-Rating based on separate releases. Re-releases are given a completely different rating from their original versions. This leads to people complaining about how a remaster didn't change enough. To reuse an example, Baldr Force has a higher rating than Baldr Force EXE, despite the fact that the latter is objectively better.
-Low rating counts. You think this is just a problem with VNDB? Think again. There's a ton of games on EGS with less than 20 ratings, making the rating almost completely useless. This is particularly bad with console ports of eroge because.
-Persona 4 has an 88, and Persona 4 Golden has a 90. This is the level of criticism you're getting on this site. It's like you accidentally stumble into Metacritic instead.

EGS scores can be a good place to start, but relying on them is just as stupid as relying on VNDB scores.

>>19767064
Mad plotfag is mad.

>>19767112
Are you going to contribute anything other than 'u mad bro'? If not then please return >>>/vg//vn/

>>19767120
You clearly expressed your hatred for moege and love for NTR.

>>19767135
First of all, that isn't me.
Second of all, I neither made any statement about my love for NTR or hate for moege. If anything, it's the other way around. What Japs complain about with Kakyuusei 2 isn't even NTR; it's the fact that one of the heroines is implied to be a non-virgin. You need to be insecure as fuck to consider that NTR. And my complaint about moege has nothing to do with my love or hate of the genre, but simply because, when given two VNs of equivalent quality, the one with more moe will get higher ratings every time. Only someone with a heavy bias towards moege would say that that makes any degree of sense.

>>19767064
>If a game appeals to retarded moebuta, it's going to get at least a 70-80 score because of that. Even if a plot-oriented title has objectively better writing than the moege
No plotge has better writing than moege.

>>19761473
Who cares about filesize these days though? It isn't like anyone says "Hmm, this game could have been compressed harder and take less space. I'm not buying it".

>>19767280
Chastity/Purity is literally one of the seven virtues. And you should read more about Kakyuusei 2 if you think her being used goods is the main issue.

Hey /jp/.

I've been working on a translation of Jinsei Tsuukodome's new game, Kanobitch (https://vndb.org/v22008).). You can read the full details in the post I made in /vn/ <a href="/vg/thread/226237572#p226259237" class="quotelink">>>>/vg/226259237,</a> but the gist of it is I have zero idea how to get the text back in the game, or even how the guy who originally got the text out for me did so. I know that he used the ozmafia yu-ris tools from TLwiki, but I can't figure out how the to use them myself. If there's anyone out there who knows how to insert text in a yu-ris engine game and is willing to explain it to me, or is willing to point me to a guide, you'd have my eternal gratitude.

>>19767289
go back to /vn/ right now

>>19767307
>Chastity/Purity is literally one of the seven virtues.
Christians also don't believe in premarital sex. I doubt that's really applicable to eroge.

>And you should read more about Kakyuusei 2 if you think her being used goods is the main issue.
The main complaints leveraged at Kakyuusei 2 are "Tamaki isn't a virgin", "Tamaki screams out her boyfriend's name during sex", and "The system and/or the heroines are bad". If you know of any other complaints, feel free to share them instead of being purposefully vague.

>>19767307
Shit like the seven virtues is Catholicism which is the opposite of real Christianity tough.
In the Bible the Lord told mankind to go forth and multiply.

>>19767459
t. heretic

>>19767459
Yahweh murdered someone for cumming outside. Therefore, all eroge where you have the option to cum outside are evil in the sight of the Lord.

>>19767453
Purity was revered (and expected of women) in all the cultures and religions in the world. The slut is going on and on about how she loved her first boyfriend, yet she broke up with him because of the MC. A decent guy who didn't do anything bad to her was going out with her, yet she acts like a disgusting 3DPD whore, and proceeds to jump on a nearby dick. How is a player supposed to feel after that? She can do it again, as many times as she wants. And she will.
>>19767459
Filth.

>>19767528
The option has to be there, so that you can tell the right from wrong. It's the devil's temptation.

>>19767459
Having sex is getting married in the eyes of God.
Mark 10:6-12
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.

11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

>>19767444
You certainly are fast. That game was only released a couple of weeks ago.

>>19767307
There are Holy Virtues and Heavenly Virtues. Purity is in the latter, not in the former, both are essentially fan fiction anyways.

>>19767459
Go forth and multiply with monogamous marriage, not heretical bullshit like casual sex.

>>19767531
>Purity was revered (and expected of women) in all the cultures and religions in the world. The slut is going on and on about how she loved her first boyfriend, yet she broke up with him because of the MC. A decent guy who didn't do anything bad to her was going out with her, yet she acts like a disgusting 3DPD whore, and proceeds to jump on a nearby dick. How is a player supposed to feel after that? She can do it again, as many times as she wants. And she will.
Obviously, the protagonist is just such a Chad that women immediately break out of perfectly happy relationships just to suck his cock. It's a fantasy; what you're doing is the same thing as complaining that the couples in moege would never realistically stand the test of time. And really, if you went into an elf game expecting nothing even vaguely netorare/netori, you're a complete moron.

>>19767064
>review site has issues
>having issues means that there is 0% validity

>>19767745
It's like how a single spelling error invalidates an entire essay.

>>19767745
Who are you quoting?

Alright stop you fucks.
Otherwise thread won't last till Thursday/Friday NN announcements.

>>19767745
EGS scores are really only a good indicator of a general opinion on that one site. If you want any actual information, you should instead read written reviews for actual arguments as to why the game is supposedly shit or not. If you just post a screencap of an EGS score as your only reference, you're the same as the /v/tards who post critic aggregate scores like they mean anything.

>>19767859
If you care that much about discussing their announcements, make a new thread. Not like anything NN localizes will be worth a shit anyway.

>>19767859
There's only a few more posts till bump limit, saying this now is pretty silly.
I'm sure we'll be able to discuss them come next Sunday.

>>19767064
>Baldr Force is of the same quality as Baldr Sky Dive2.
Baldr Force is significantly better than Baldr Sky in every respect but gameplay and presentation, which are to be expected for games that were released nearly a decade apart.

>>19767859
Just make a new thread for their announcements specifically if you really want one. People only complain if you go out of your way to label it VNTS.

>>19767939
Nice try, Aroduc.
To be fair, Sky's school setting is fucking stupid, but Force had its fair share of stupid bullshit storywise too. And they weren't released "nearly a decade apart"; it was actually less than seven years, and there's no excuse for the fact that Force's engine is a massive pile of shit and that the gameplay is just serviceable at best. I like Force, but if it was released as is today, (with higher-quality assets, of course), it'd be an 83 at best.

>>19768076
You do understand that Force and Sky have functionally identical gameplay, right?

>>19768106
>>19768076
Sky is literally a refined version of Force's engine with more tutorials. If you want to be exact, they're both NeXAS. Trying to remake it is what got us Zero. I have no idea at all where this dude is coming from.

>>19768106
Functionally, yes, but every change that Sky makes to Force's gameplay is for the better.

>>19768147
Changes like having to grind weapon use AND money instead of just weapon use? Having to buy unlocked items/plugins instead of them being automatically acquired when unlocked? Force badly needed some in-game help to explain its mechanics, but the actual gameplay is completely identical between the two games except for tweaking some numbers. I don't understand how someone can say one was garbage and the other was great. Do you think that New Super Mario Bros and New Super Mario Bros Wii also have a perilous gulf of differences between them?

Can we just enjoy that the dude trying to argue that two hugely critically acclaimed games with identical median ratings on EGS considers it so unthinkable that anybody would disagree with his belief that one is massively better than the other that anybody who thinks otherwise must be shitposting.

>>19768226
I never said that Force was significantly worse than Sky gameplay-wise. I think the two are of roughly the same caliber; they both manage to keep the player engaged throughout, and they both manage to deliver on amazing interactive mecha battles. But when push comes to shove, I'd say that Sky's gameplay is better than Force's.

I have no fucking clue what >>19767939 was trying to get at, though.

>>19768266
Nice strawman.

>>19767866
>Not like anything NN localizes will be worth a shit anyway.
Out of curiosity what kind of announcement would be "worth a shit?"

>>19768303
NN announces that they have nasu chained in their basement and he is going to write the tsukihime remake in english first

>>19768297
Where you started:
>massive pile of shit that's serviceable at best

Where you are now:
>roughly the same caliber

This has been a productive use of both our times.

>>19768330
Are you literally fucking illiterate? I stated that the system is a massive pile of shit, and that the gameplay is serviceable. System, in this context, is supposed to refer to the game engine, which doesn't run properly on 32-bit systems, has no auto mode, and tons of other little quirks that make reading it a pain in the ass. I never said that Sky's gameplay was "massively" better; I just stated that it irons out a number of flaws in Force's system. Besides that, you're hyperfocusing on the single part of the argument where I used Force as an example, and not on the rest of the argument or even what I used it as an example for. Instead, you pick out one insignificant part of what I said and attempt to use that to discredit my entire argument; complete with exaggeration of my position, ad hominem, straight-up lying, and generally making yourself look like a complete tool.

>>19768303
Immediately letting Chuee go, along with a complete retranslation of Fureraba. Iroseka would be nice too.

Speaking of Chuee.

>>19766460
It looks like a correct translation to me. I'd even say the translator went beyond a correct translation with the use of ancient English.
But he does talk with in a very unique way, if only for the だぞ/ろ overuse and the way he constructs the phrases, using his imposing voice.
>>19766232
Putting myself in the translator's shoes, I might have considered giving them some national flavor (French, German, Italian...). But that could have been overdoing.

>>19768426
No, you didn't. You're trying to revise what you wrote and you're doing a piss poor job of it.

Also, you should really look up what ad hominem means before you try to use it.

>>19768438
If using zo justified using old English, half of VNs would look a lot different. A yakuza boss can be super imposing, but it doesn't mean he's not speaking in modern Japanese, albeit a bit different than regular.
>I might have considered giving them some national flavor (French, German, Italian...)
Never ever do that.

>>19767444
Try the untranslated vn thread since they were the ones who extracted the text to begin with

>>19768426
>System, in this context, is supposed to refer to the game engine, which doesn't run properly on 32-bit systems, has no auto mode

It's super funny that "has no auto mode" and "can't run on modern systems" are equated as being a similar level of problem, but only bad enough to knock off around 5 points from its EGS median.

>>19768464
>No, you didn't. You're trying to revise what you wrote and you're doing a piss poor job of it.
No, you're trying to save face because you weren't able to properly understand what I was saying. There's a major difference there.

>Also, you should really look up what ad hominem means before you try to use it.
I would, but >>19768266 may as well be the dictionary definition.

>>19768544
You really need to look up ad hominem, dude. This is embarrassing.

>>19768552
Ok, retard.

>(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

What you're trying to do is to attack my defense of my (entirely nonexistent) belief that Baldr Force is "massively inferior" to Baldr Sky. >>19768297 attempts to paint me as a lunatic who's completely unwilling to accept any opinions other than his own, rather than actually trying to critique any argument I made. Are you happy?

>>19768593
That's not what ad hominem is

And you've accused the same post of being post a straw man and ad hominem now. It's so hard to keep up with you.

>>19767064
based and redpilled

>>19768633
It looks like you're the one who has to look up what the term means.
Look, I didn't believe that it was possible to combine straw man fallacy and ad hominem together either, but you managed to find a way. You should get a medal or something.

>>19768593
Helpful explainer:

Ad hominem is:
You are stupid, therefore your argument is wrong.

Ad hominem is not:
Your argument is stupid, therefore you're wrong.

Ad homimem is not:
Your argument is stupid, therefore you're stupid.

Ad hominem is not:
You are stupid.

This has been your helpful explainer.

>>19768686

>>19768672
When you're misusing terms, anything is possible!

>>19768693
Keep me out of your little spat. Just stop contributing to the collective intellectual drain due to the proliferation of ignorance on the internet.

Baldrfags please.

>>19768708
If you think it's bad now, wait until Sekai releases a shitty translation so you have to deal with both SP fanboys, MTL retards, AND the cartel hanger ons shitposting all at once.

>>19768732
Good thing that's not gonna happen for a couple more years.

Here.
Taken straight from /pol/ sticky.

>>19768745
>Good thing that's not gonna happen.
ftfy

>>19768542
>no auto mode
Unless I'm misinterpreting, no auto read mode isn't a significant issue at all. Maybe it's because I read fast, but auto mode is useless.

>doesn't work on modern systems
I can see how many people wouldn't take that into account when it comes to rating, especially if that's due to its age. It's like knocking down eroge scores if they don't work on Windows 10.

Everything works on Windows 10. The only VN I have that doesn't work on Win10 is Rance 4.1+4.2. And that didn't work on Win7 either; You have to get an XP VM for it.

>>19768686
>>19768697
>>19768705
>>19768752
And again, the discussion has been derailed. I list one example, and then that seems to be the only thing any of you can focus on. There's no actual discussion about my argument against EGS scores, because apparently all of you are constitutionally incapable of comprehending any part of my argument that isn't "lol baldr force sucks amirite".

>>19768542
>>19768787
It runs perfectly well on Windows 7. The problem is with windowed mode, which doesn't work unless you manually set your computer to 16-bit color mode. Aside from that, the game's mostly just filled with very minor problems that just add up over time. There's nothing game-breaking, but it's kind of annoying.

>>19768804
You should play more VNs.

>>19768832
>You should play more VNs.
122 is well above average. I guess the problems could be more common with untranslated VNs.

>>19768832
Your complaint is stupid. No review sites or reviews anywhere in the world or anywhere in the entire span of time dynamically update as time passes. A 4/5 movie from 1962 is going to have been judged differently than a 4/5 movie from 2018. A critically acclaimed book from 1912 is going to have been judged by different standards from a book writtin in 2018. All you've done is whine about the concept of time passing. Get the stick out of your ass and stop being a pedantic little shit.

>>19768891
It's a problem inherent in the system, but it's one of many factors you need to keep in mind while trying to use EGS scores to win an argument. The problem is that, as far as I know, there's no easy way to filter out older scores. That's the problem. Besides manually gathering and processing information, it's going to be impossible to determine if a game is a timeless masterpiece or just a game that was impressive for the time it was released.

>>19768957
No, it's a problem inherant with THE PASSAGE OF TIME and is part of accepting that TIME PASSES.

Most people don't have a problem understanding this. You've decided to make this your hill to die on.

>>19768974
What I'm trying to argue is that relying on EGS scores, and aggregate scores in general, is completely misguided. If a game is bad, then say why it's bad. Don't try to use a meaningless number to justify your opinion.

>>19768437
I hate how he is trying to act like he is above everyone.
If you are sitting on a project for three years (especially if it is near completion) in hopes that it will get licensed then it shows you mainly just care about the money. That is fine, but don't act like you care about the project itself.

>>19768856
You normally have to do some extra fuckery, like with Duel Saviour with won't start otherwise.
By default some just won't work because DirectDraw is deprecated and partially removed in Windows 10.
Here is a compatibility list with some of the workarounds.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1itCvY8aWGjjhAA1fS8tYCGwcpq4b7tI574NsNb0d_eI/edit#gid=0

>>19768856
That's true. Any recently officially translated VN will have extra programming work to make sure it works with Windows 10.

>>19767064
does that mean persona 4 is considered a visual novel by jp users?

>>19769935
EGS isn't strictly for visual novels, but more for otaku software in general. They also have the complete Touhou and Neptunia series on there.

Now, keep in mind, Persona 4 only has 2 votes, and Persona 4 Golden only has 7. The eroge/visual novel section is far more popular than the pure RPG section is.

>>19764102
There's 0 reason for Frontwing to not help MG out because some of Himawari's sale money will go back to Frontwing anyways. Maybe MG will profit from Himawari now since Island seems to be doing well. While Island does have an anime, it's not like that anime is popular.

>>19767866
I'm off to sleep so I made the thread earlier in case this one dies while I'm asleep.

>>19770365

>>19768438
Why not just keep the Japanese? It is almost more likely the reader knows Japanese than French/German/Italian/Spanish/Russian.

After all, normal people spread out on all of those languages and only do one of them. While people interested in Japanese games in general know basics of Japanese.