/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>19750603
first post for best witch and best girl

>>19750605
*chokes you*

I have no love, so why can I see?

>>19750807
Poor anon doesn't even realize the love he has

>>19750821
But I am unable of trusting people or things. Isn't love about trust, or am I wrong about that too?

>>19750807
It's the holy gift in Buddhism attained before enlightenment to become like water. You gain the ability to view anything from any reference point, and become a perfect reflection of anyone you talk to. Once you see a perfect reflection of yourself, you gain a lot of insight and undergo epiphany, because water is shapeless and takes the form of anything it desires.
You know how prized waterlike qualities are in Buddhism. The highest level of introspection is the ability of absolute metacognition. You gain a view of your own values and no longer have to view the world through them alone. It's true metacognition. Jung said man gains enlightenment not from imagining figures of light but from making the darkness conscious, and it's a reference not only to the idea that your dislikes are more telling than your likes, but that you gain more, psychically, by freeing yourself of a particular vantage point. Without love you can't be enlightened because love means this waterlike quality integral to yourself transcending.

This is why magic springs forth from the sea (water) of nothingness (freedom from static values), and why love is likened to understanding others. It's not about agreement; it's about putting your peripheries and values aside in interactions with others, whose entire universes, from the very atoms up, are composed differently than you can imagine from a static viewpoint. Only love can free you.

>>19750807
It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye.

>>19751067
so love is empathy?

>>19751067
love is for fools and lambda would certainly agree

>>19750855
Why are you afraid of trusting someone, anon? I've been betrayed by the one I love the most, but my feelings do not waver.

>>19751103
No. If I had to be curt, love is applying sunyata, the magical playground, to your values/interactions with others. aka your values aren't inherent and you can't let them supersede your understanding when trying to reflect someone else's thinking.

>>19751107
You probably don't mean the definition I do considering people don't tend to bring Buddhism up in their Umineko understanding, but this sort of love is integral to winning the game irl. Any successful conqueror, CEO, tactician will tell you to know your enemy if you want to exploit and overcome them best. Love isn't necessarily affectionate; it can be used to insidious ends, and with an inexorable resolve leads to the births and falls of empires, cultural paradigm shifts, the making of legends, apotheosis of man to myth.

>>19751139
There's nothing to be afraid of, but there's never an honest soul around to be trusted, that's why you must trust the witches, the gods and the devils.

>>19751139
There's no explanation. I've always been like this.

>>19751155
State your definition.

>>19751167
sounds like you lack love for yourself

>>19751163
I'd never betray you bb

>>19751190
Isn't love about others though? I actually love myself, because my conscious is the only thing I truly know exists.

>>19751196
I'm not your mooncancer.

>>19751207
what you perceive as love is just your Conatus

>>19751207
why can't you love something that might not exist?

>>19751207
love is the perception of what might not exist

Love is just a chemical reaction in your brain

Love? Talking about such a thing is stupid and pointless. It does not matter. You must locate your heart.

>>19748909
>they're just making Erika perform fellatio

Alright I laughed

Without love it cannot be seen. ...Hah that's backwards.
Because of love you end up seeing things that don't exist. Its nothing more than an illusion, one that no one except you can see, and one that even you cannot touch.
Without love humans would never have to sift through truth and lies.
Because we can see those, …We doubt, we suffer, we cry out loud.

>>19752263
delete this

how come there's no thicc witches

>>19752486
there are though?

>>19752522
Lambda needs to lay of the sweets and Bern needs diet cat food

Do you think that any 07th expansion work had any significant impact on your life ?
For my case, even if it's not really something related it Higurashi, I loved it so much that I decided to start to do something out of my life, that I had the potential to be happy within my hands and could grab it
I'll never believe that I deserve happiness, but It's better than being worthless as I am now

>>19752633
No. I'm not very impressionable; in fact I would say I'm quite hostile towards those who try to actively influence me.

>>19752633
It made me more comfortable with my hallucinations of a witch. I know that no matter how bad it gets, I'll never be as autistic or as batshit insane as Yasu.

>>19752633
I found Lion attractive and now I spend my days wondering if I'm gay or not

>>19751178
I was explaining it the entire time, though. Umineko never meant "love" as the psychic romantic antecedent.

>>19752905
>It made me more comfortable with my hallucinations of a witch

seek help

>>19753001
>Umineko never meant "love" as the psychic romantic antecedent.
it did in my opinion, it just expanded its definition to something bigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02KaUff0HEo

This is juicy

>>19753084
witches are reeal

>>19753210
what is the music from? some doujin umineko album?

>>19753001
Your explanation hardly counts as a clear definition, try again, or don't.
>>19752905
Congratulations, O'Chosen One, may you seek eyes to better and more clearly perceive them with.

>>19753615
According to the guy who posted the video, its from an album called 'circletempo' so i assume yes, but I haven't looked into it

>>19753615
>>19753670
Circletempo is the name of Luck Ganriki's doujin group. The album is called Ogon Syndrome

>>19753644
>Your explanation hardly counts as a clear definition
I understood it just fine. Maybe you just don't want to try. Without love, it cannot be seen.

>>19753711
thanks anon

>>19753711
thanks a lot
also It's insane how many doujin umineko albums there are out there, not to mention that the whole ost is split up between every artists

/v/ threads are fun

>>19752914

Wasn't it kind of rude to add the Witch Hunters to refrence the fantranslators and in Ep 8 portray them as nerds having fun out of the Ushiromiya's misfortune?

>>19755008
the point is that "we" the readers are doing the same thing, in universe, the witch hunters are obviously not portrayed as good people, but like the goat theorists, ryushiki didn't intend to make them antagonists
remember what bern said
>When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice

>>19754651
I want to have a threesome with zepar and furfur !

>>19755079
I want to swap saliva with both of them

witches? no, I don't like em, not one bit

Lmao Duncan is using fake accounts again.

>>19755173
great taste anon
I want zepar to spit in my mouth too

If Umineko takes place in 198x then why does Jessica dress up as a 2hu ?

>>19755715
Cuz Jessica made 2hu

>>19755715
you cannot prove that Jessica made It's impossible for Jessica to make a costume that coincidentally looks like a character made 20 years later
that's right! this is a devil's proof!

>>19755826
>Zun
who?

>>19755867

>>19755715
Zun went to the same school and was in the audience and Jessica became his inspiration

Weird question but would the manga work well as a way to look back on things that occur during the story while reading the VN, instead of just replaying sections i have already went though? I already read the story and everything, this was more of a question for a friend who might start reading Umineko soon.

>>19756415
I want them to laught at my tiny penis!

>>19757490
I don't think this is a good idea, even if they tell the same story they are really different on how they approach it

>>19757887

>>19753735
Kay, since you've understood you can put it into a clear definition, right?

>>19758033
Try and read what he said again:
>>19751067
>>19751155

If there's a part of it you have trouble understanding or want clarified, then you're better off asking him about it instead of me because it's his definition. Ask and listen with the intent to understand. Or don't.

What sort of panties does Lambda wear?

>>19758324
Pumpkin?

>>19758336
Hm, yeah I could see that.

>>19758243
I've already asked him. Or don't.

>>19758324
pinky frilly, also see-through.

>>19758324
comfy boxers

>>19758653
lambda is me?

>>19758658
Depends, are you cute?

>>19758658
good taste

>>19758677
lewd!

>>19758671
I suppose. Sometimes I'm nasty, though.

>>19757881
Dang ok, thanks for the reply.

Is it just me or is there a lack of umineko related fan stories? Am I just looking in the wrong place to find these things? Specifically lewd stories by the way

>>19758749
Why is there such a lack of good fan gameboards?

>>19758804
99% of creators are too lazy to create

/qst/ thread never

>>19758829
this is why I've always advocated for chaining them to a type writer

>>19758749
check /seacats/ dotnet there's some stuff out there, even if It's dead today

>>19758640
Like these?

>>19758749
Check /u/. There's a thread with one being written right now.

>>19759024
>bern x erika
not my cup of tea but pretty good thread nontheless

>>19759092
What kind of pairings would you prefer?

>>19759141
I like erika/dlanor and bern/lambda but erika / bern is good too because there's a clear dom/sub dynamic

>>19759153
Yeah, I actually agree. And I'm the one writing the thing. It's just fun to play around with Erika's ridiculously intense attraction to her master.

>>19759024
Yeah I've been following the thread and it's been pleasant so far. Personally though I'm quite conflicted when it comes to yuri. I don't dislike it, but it has to be very explicit for me to find it arousing. I still enjoy reading and viewing material like it though.

Regardless, it's a shame nearly everyone's too busy being a filthy goat or a voyager witch. Think of all the potential they have that's just wasting away inside their heads. It begs the question, why is a voyager so afraid of becoming a creator?

>>19759191
well It's really great, and It's actually kinda cute too
I love the initial scenario of bern's chess game, It's slightly ridiculous and you still manage to write a lot out of it without making it repetitive
I'd love to read more stuff from you

>>19759365
I’m not exclusively into yuri like a lot of the anons on /u/, but I do find it enjoyable. The way I see it, both hetero and yuri have their own strengths.

You’re right though. It’d be nice if more fans were willing to give making stuff a shot. It can be pretty fun once you do.

>>19759405
yaoi is good too
but outside of ronove and lion there isn't a whole lot

>>19759379
Thank you very much. I’ve still got a bunch of ideas that I’ve yet to implement into the scenario, so hopefully there’s plenty to look forward to.

And if you’d like to read more of my work, I’d be happy to show you, though perhaps in a more private place? I’ve got a discord that I typically use to share works directly.

So, what video games are you guys playing?

>>19759448
I'm going to finish golden fantasia soon, I've got two pairs left to complete

>>19759448
magical drop 3 and reading higanbana

>>19759437
I don't use discord but thanks anyway for the offer, I can lurk these threads and the /u/ if you continue to post there

>>19759432

>>19759505
zepar is cute af but there's no one to pair him with
zepar x reader fic when ?

>>19759495
It’s alright. I was just looking to get a new corespondent, but if you’d rather not then that’s perfectly fine.

>>19759528
>a 'hunter' of love who preys on tame boys

absolutely turbo lewd

>>19759528
But would it be male or female Zepar? Or would it remain ambiguous throughout the fic?
>gently palming Zepar’s chest, unable to figure out if What you’re holding is an unusually soft pectorals of a man, or the slighty firm budding breasts of a woman.

>>19759601
The real mystery of umineko

>>19759657
That and this.
>Without love, tits cannot be seen.

>>19759557
I'd take you up on this offer in a week or so when I build up the courage to do so

>>19759601
good stuff
tfw no Zepar chest to fall asleep on

>>19759726
By all means, feel free. I'll just leave this here for a bit before taking it down. M-anon#9139

I'll get back to you eventually

>>19759789
Sounds good.

Post your honest opinions on this character.
NOW.

>>19760381
delicious

Kasai needs more appreciation. Without him and Akasaka nothing would have changed. Praise the Yakuza

>>19760381
Champion of the people risking his retirement.

>>19750603
How did 07th Expansion create this painful unreadable piece of steaming shit after the timeless masterpiece that is Higurashi? I've been roaming around Boston's clinics wasting time, money and a precious college semester to find a cure for my persistent insomnia until I read this literal turd of VN. I refuse to believe that based 07th Expansion made this, it's absolutely baffling. Other than saving my money from those Jewish doctors in Boston and curing my insomnia once and for all, this VN was a horrendous experience.

>>19760381
The higurashi cast is really solid, but oishi really is one of the best

>>19760456
Based

>>19760481
The French translation is pure kino

>>19760381
Just another great character that anime noobs can't appreciate

>>19760456
I don't get the reference

>>19760389
I agree.

>>19760486
agree, It's pretty much the best french translation I've ever heard
It's actually really hard to put into words what makes it so good but it has so much soul and reads so naturally, It's hard to tell It's not the original language

I want to spank a Stake.

>>19760505
How good are we talking? I heard French translation are usually shit.
Like Star Wars.

>>19760456
I thought we were only allowed to sing our praises to Umineko here and never criticize it or state how shitty it was?

>>19760547
>How good are we talking? I heard French translation are usually shit.

true, that's why french Higurashi stands out so well, the thing with translation is that you need to know the target language more than the base one, and that's rarely the case in "mainstream" french translation

french higurashi reads like a french story, and gets rids all the -sama and -kun that really puts you off the story

>>19760580
Perfectly summed up. I absolutely don't regret my purchase

>>19760580
Bon à savoir.

>>19760617
>>19760547
and also "Le sanglot des cigales" is a really fucking good title

>>19760456

>>19760456
Nobody likes Umineko here, shoulda read the general before wasting your time

>>19760456
well the only reason It's even remotely popular is because of waifubait, at least the mobage will get released soon

>>19760456
Keep reading, the finale is worthwhile

>>19761159
I disagree. The finale of the novel is disappointing, moralizing, and patronizing.
He should still read it for the sake of completion, but I'm not sold on Umineko. It promises murder mysteries, and instead gives you child abuse, autistic troll arguments that look like they belong to /b/, a guy fucking his own daughter, and at least 4 layers of existence.

>>19761488
It's almost like I heard this same shit opinion over and over again with absolutely no new input or argument added.

And seeing as you're not opposing any argument, clearly he's right.
When will brainlets realize that autistic screeching aren't arguments when faced with logical, constructive criticism?

>>19761529
It's literally impossible to argue against those people because absolutely nothing you say can change their opinion, so it's better to say nothing.

>>19761539
So rather than trying, you abandon, give up, surrender, and then pretend you have the high ground by acting bratty and obnoxious.
If it's better to say nothing, then say nothing. Don't go "urgh i see the pleb is parroting again". You don't come off as smart when you do that, you only come off as an obnoxious retard trying to pick fights but backpedaling when people try to confront you.

>>19761570
I would rather not shit up the thread honestly. I am fine arguing it when it comes to threads about Umineko on other boards but I don't want to do it here.

>urgh, it's another scrub battle about umineko
Speak about Higurashi instead. Umineko is a waste of space, time, and oxygen.

>>19761627
But Umineko is way better than Higurashi.

>>19761720
I think so too.

>>19761720
>>19761760
These but only as a joke.

>>19761627
Just 4 more months until we have a new When They Cry to shitpost about.

>>19761720
Urgh what a shitty opinion but I don't want to shit up the thread so I'll never explain you why you're wrong.

>>19761769
Only wake me up if it takes place in a cabin on a mountain during a snowstorm.

>>19761789
Let me hear your opinion anon.

>>19760456
I stopped reading it for 5 months because I got a migraine headache and an eye pain trying to get through the insufferable Battler-Beatrice back and forth part after episode 2. I'm not sure how I completed it, but I do remember being a shell of my former self when I finally completed it.

>>19761789
Weren't they making another Umineko continuation or something as well?

>>19760456

>>19761856
>Weren't they making another Umineko continuation or something as well?
Correct, a new scenario. It's being released at the same time as WTC5.

>>19761804
I would rather not shit up the thread honestly. I am fine explaining you why you're retarded when it comes to threads about Umineko on other boards but I don't want to do it here.

>>19761856
Do you think Ryukishi07 understood how bad Umineko was and intends to fix it, or is he going all Kerberos on us?

>>19761880

>>19761856
>More Umineko in the making

>>19761932
delete this

>>19761932
This hurts me.
Not like the autist in charge of undertale can ever cooperate with anyone, these people are unable to work in a group.

>>19761789
>Only wake me up if it takes place in a cabin on a mountain during a snowstorm.
Looks like a huge city to me. Something related to politicians power struggle maybe? Ryukishi07 said that foreign characters will appear, and something about global story.

>>19762149
So a mix between Rose Gun Days and Higurashi. I'll pass, I only want more murder mysteries, more paranoia, more crippling fear as things don't make sense, and you don't know if everyone is weird or if it's just you, if it's a conspiracy or if you're paranoid, and the walls are closing in slowly but surely and it's just a matter of time before you snap.

>>19762170
So Higurashi-like VN, right? I want that too, but he did say he wanted to move on from Hinamizawa, not sure what he meant by that, but I can only think that he wants to try a different genre. It's still a WTC VN though, so no matter what the theme is, psychological breakdown and paranoia will hopefully be part of it.

>>19762247
I dunno, Umineko was a WTC, and it felt lacking in the paranoia.
And I have no damn idea how you can enforce paranoia if the story takes place in a town.

Did George really never grab a handful of yasu tits in all the time they were dating? What a fucking loser, it would have probably mind broke him when he realized he had been in love with a tranny.

>>19762256
>I dunno, Umineko was a WTC, and it felt lacking in the paranoia.
It sure did, but it still had that WTC feel to it, I'm sure he knows what he's doing, and Umineko, given the Magic theme and the ridiculous game between Battler and Beatrice we had a little chance to see actual paranoia. I believe we did see some characters breaking down a little bit but it wasn't Higurashi tier, again given the theme.
>And I have no damn idea how you can enforce paranoia if the story takes place in a town.
I don't see how the settings of the story would affect the presentation of paranoia. Paranoia can exist as long as the character development allows it.

>>19762346
Paranoia is best served in either an unfamiliar setting or a closed one. That's why the unfamiliar, countryside village of Hinamizawa pleased me so much when I read Higurashi, and why I had so much hope for Umineko when I understood the whole story would take place on an island.

That's it, I'm gonna do it. I'm going to write a story and none of you are going to stop me.

>>19763130
woah, what the fuck?
I guess Im going to have to as well.

>>19763130
Fight oh!~

>>19763130
Don't cry if you fail terribly or I will laugh, a lot, very much. Yeah, quite a lot. Yay~

>>19761488
>4 layers

>>19761720
I agree but Umineko's is still great

>>19763130
I believe in you anon

>>19764447
I though Kakeraverse and Imaginary Level were the same.
Real World doesn't exists.

>>19764480
>I though Kakeraverse and Imaginary Level were the same.
then that would that lambda bern will and dlanor all exist on prime and discuss the rokkenjima forgeries so that can work

I just noticed that Umineko + Chiru VNDb rating keep climbling up a lot since last year.They were not even in top 5

>>19764693
subtle reminder to read muv luv

>>19764731
I'd read it if I hadn't heard that people forced themself through extra and unlimited to get into good part

>>19764731
I did and I really enjoyed it.
>>19764759
Unlimited and Alternative made me like Extra a lot more than I did going through it and I genuinely really love Unlimited. I don't know how people could dislike it.

>>19764759
extra is ok, but nowhere near something bad
unlimited is great

I realized I don't have many Bern pics, please post more Bern.

>>19763561
My heart

I remember this blowing my mind when I first looked up the Tamsui River. If this doesn't prove that magic exists in our world don't know what else does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tamsuirivermap.png

>>19765193
>Ryukishi literally editing wikipedia so his dumb riddle makes sense

>>19765193
ahaha.wav
*cackle cackle*

>>19765193

>>19765212
The epitaph is hard but it's not dumb.

>>19765323
based

>>>/x/21345676

When it comes to Ryukishi07's work, which are stronger? Aliens or witches?

>>19765425
god i love /x/

>>19765425
I'd say we try to fuck them both. Hanyuu and Bern, side by side.

>>19765425
hanyuu / alien have time travel/ can send memories back in time

bern / voyageur witches can travel between dimentions / have advanced reality manipulations

close but I'd say aliens since hanyuu and the other higu lmaos are young compared to S tier witches

>>19765500
Beside, aliens can breed with humans.

>>19765506
calling it now:
wtc 5 is a alien/human hybrid and slowly learns her powers during the course of the story
in the end, she] gets killed by her daughter, hanyuu

>>19765520
Nothing would've happened if Hanyuu accepted anal.

I want to marry Cornelia and reassure her when she's dealing with insecurities

>>19765911
You can't marry with the non-existing.

>>19765925
prove it

>>19765970
Do I need to? You can't even talk to her, since she doesn't exist. How can you get marry if you can't even tell her your name?

>>19764831

>>19765970
Sorry, I didn't wanted to break your kokoro.

>>19765911
If you truly love her you wouldnt wish for her to marry you since you have to way to know if she would love you or even come close to agree with marrying her

>>19765990
But I talk to her all the time

>>19766099
The voices inside your head/imaginary gf doesn't count, anon.

>>19765911
cornelia is for bullying

>>19766111
Who are you to say? This is my truth.

>>19766137
Your truth sucks, delusional-kun.

>>19766165
n-no you

>>19766174
>>>/n/o+u

Checkmate.

>>19766186
Hope you like jelly you jerk

>>19766208
I do, but only if it of strawberries.

>jerk
There is no need to be upset by your utterly and regrettable defeat, delusional-kun. Have a good day.

>>19766128

>>19766128

>>19766245
Cornelia is such a slut

>>19766271
She takes any teasing personally please stop

Does anyone have the link for damedame subs? I haven't watched them yet.

Should I get my friend to read Umineko or Higurashi first?

>>19766783
Noone, make them watch the anime.

>>19766783
What do you think they would enjoy more?

>>19766783
Umineko subverts the expectations of those that already read Higurashi, so I would suggest Higurashi first if your friend is fine with starting with either one.
Is your friend going to read the latest MangaGamer version? That doesn't have the main 8 chapters released for Higurashi, and at this rate it's probably going to take them another year. Umineko is complete but it's only sold as a bundle, while Higurashi is sold individually by chapter which makes it a safer purchase.

>>19766783
Read the first one in the fucking series. Why the fuck would you make them read the sequel first?

>>19766913
While I agree, I can understand why they might be split on the decision. Let's say the person in question seems like the type who would really enjoy Umineko, but upon reading Higurashi first they don't particularly like it. Then it'd be hard to get them interested in Umineko after that.

Of course, that's assuming there's a potential Umineko fan who wouldn't also enjoy Higurashi.

>>19767009
I loved Higurashi and hated Umineko. So it's possible.

>>19766783
Machete order
Higurashi 5 -> Umineko 5 -> Higurashi 2 -> Umineko 2 then the same alternating pattern [6-3-7-1-8-4]

>>19767018
From what I've seen over the years, that's plenty common.
I still think you have shit taste for it though. There were so many things I feel Umineko just does better.

>>19767033
>Kenji Kawai Higurashi album
god why wasn't I aware of this

>>19767072
It's the anime ost

>>19767072
>original composer of the anime ost
Never watched the anime, is it worth my time if I'm only interested in the OST?

>>19767092
Sure, give it a try.

>>19767092
From what I've heard, It's not that bad

>>19767052
And I think you're a massively insecure faggot and a whiny little bitch.

>>19767092
It cuts out a lot but it does a lot of scenes really well. Kai is way better than the first season.

>>19767349
If you think of it more like an OVA than a perfect adaption then its pretty good.

>>19767092
I liked Fate/Stay Night's anime's OST.

>>19767092
sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kypmDySS_DU

I'm almost done with my very first story!

>>19767770
Remember, don't cry or I will laugh.

>>19767788
>when anonymous cries

>>19767241
Cool. But why are you lurking in a thread for a series you hate?

>>19768046
Not that anon, but
>07th Expansion thread
Are you dumb?

>>19767770
congrats anon, creating is hard so you should be proud

>>19768057
Don't feed that retard.

>>19768130
Sorry.

>>19760456
I'm sick of you faggots complaining about Umineko. If you looked back at he debates between Battler and Beatrice you'd find just how exciting and interesting the back and forth and the reasonings they both keep throwing at each other. It's not the novel's fault you have peanuts for brains and the attention span of a gnat.

>>19768057
But he he's not even discussing Higurashi, RGD, or other 07th Expansion works. He's just shitting on Umineko with the same tired complaints people have been spouting for over half a decade.

>>19767241
Based.
>>19768204
This but unironically.

>>19768224
Dude calm down, they're not shitting on you or umi, just giving their opinion saying they prefer higu. What's wrong about it?

>>19768224
Also, by following the posts chain, you're the one who started telling the other anon that they had shit taste. Don't cry now.

>>19768337
those sweeties

>>19768378
Cute

>>19768250
>they're not shitting on you or umi
>How did 07th Expansion create this painful unreadable piece of steaming shit

>>19768378
protect this smile

>>19768450
are you strong enough?

>>19768436
That guy is a jerk, yea, but how do you know is the same guy? Try not to generalize so much, not all higu fans are bad.

>>19768452
definitely not, she's going to have to protect me if anything

>>19768478
are you worth protecting?

>>19768488
yes uwu

>>19768503
Why?

>>19768503
well then have a nice day anon

>>19768436
>>How did 07th Expansion create this painful unreadable piece of steaming shit
I'm not that guy, but that is true.

>>19768508
I'm the best support character
>>19768515
you too anon

>>19768575
How is she going to protect you if you are real and she isn't?

>>19768575
are you oishi?

>>19768582
what if we aren't real and she is

>>19768585
yes but i dont bully kids in different kakeras

>>19768534
How? It's one thing to say you didn't enjoying Umineko as much as Higurashi. That's just a matter of personal preference, and while I may not agree I can at least understand it. But how can you love the hell out of one while hating the other when they pretty much mirror each other?

>>19768600
Anon pls, she's just a drawing, a concept created by someone real.

>>19768605
oishi can bully me

>>19768534
It only unreadable if you're retard goats who uncapable of read it. It rank as 3rd highly rated VN in VNDb for a good reason

>>19768600
My god

>>19768675
>It rank as 3rd highly rated VN in VNDb for a good reason
Heh, I like umi too, but don't bring rankings here or everyone will think you're dumb.

>>19768675
You shouldn't bother to reply to autism who can't read

>>19768695
Not that guy but if you genuinely think stated the fact made you dumb then you probably not so smart to begin with

>>19768675
not him but what's the point of this argument
you're allowed to not enjoy Umineko
that doesn't make you a bad person, someone stupid or someone unable to enjoy great things
especially with something with convoluted themes and narrative such as Umineko

>>19768698
Why are you so defensive about it? Don't you realize that it's because you get so easily upset that others are making fun of you?

>>19753103
Yes, you're actually correct and I'd like to revise my remark on romantic love to say that, while Umineko did not mean it specifically by "love," romantic love has Umineko's love as a prerequisite, so you could see it as a subset in the same way that Lambdadelta's magic of certainty is humanity's specialty, but magic itself is much wider than this one path, like how Wittgenstein described the language game (with a cute Borgesian flair):
Take a sentence to mean a path to magic.
Any sentence is a labyrinth. The utterance (magic itself) is a common exit point to an infinitude of underlying unique paths (or paths to magic). That's why language is its own cosmogeny: there are causal laws in place so that a specific starting point with these or those variables will always find its way to a constant result, and so that any different starting point or variable will almost always create a new universe, and even those with the same end underwent different processes. Humans excel at a small collection of paths, and for Umineko, love is the same excepting our new ability to start anywhere in the labyrinth.

To demonstrate you can look at some tree diagrams on google. The raw linguistic structure of two sentences can be different but end up as the same utterance because of the grammar. Magic precedes rules, but it's crucial to establish that, while Lambdadelta's magic of certainty is our proper path to magic, it's only a pinhole on the ozone layer alongside yawning gorges before the sun.

>>19753644
It's very clear and interpretative uncharitability/misunderstanding does not undermine authorial intention or merit. Other anon was right that you should reread with your values set aside if you want to understand others, which is what it means to possess those prized aqueous traits.

>>19768924
great, pretentious anon is back

How would you try to sell Higurashi or Umineko to someone who knows nothing about it and obviously don't want to spoil?

>>19768929
t. whining anon is back

>>19768950
I'd just ask if they're into the genre and give them a brief premise of the games, you don't need to describe any important details.

>higurashi
>kid moves to isolated village where murders happen at the same time every year
>as the day approaches surreal events take hold
>story is explained through multiple 'scenarios' containing the same characters that slowly reveals the truth

>umineko
>rich family isolated on an island for two days
>mysterious murders take place that points toward the existence of a witch
>story turns into a fight over the truth

>>19768950

Do:
>Give a brief description of the beats of the first episode, and to a lesser degree the question arc (It's a murder mystery set on an island is usually sufficient, flavor that up however you want)
>Give them a sample of the soundtrack, that shit sells itself
>Mention the Steam release, to give your friend a convenient outlet to purchase/download the game

Don't:
>Mention the length at all, people will get scared off fast if they hear about how long it is
>Overexpose them to the art; Ryukishi's art has a tendency to alienate people who aren't already diving into WTC
>Give them a nyaa.se link and the witch hunt patch and expect them to dive right in, it implicitly sends a message that Umineko isn't worth their money (and to a lesser extent, their time)

t. someone who has made converts of most of their friends

>>19769219
>Do Mention the Steam release
>Don't give them a nyaa.se link
I get that you want them to support the series and that they might take a free link the wrong way, but I don't think that's enough of a reason to push them towards the worst version of the game.

>>19769661
Steam Rosa is hot

>>19769672
Yeah, she's one of the better ones.

>>19769672
Forget that, she's the only one who doesn't look deformed. The rest looks like bad yaoi art where all the characters have crippling alcoholism.

I just started reading Episode 8, does it have any plot or is it just a scenario where everything is happy like Battler made it for Ange?

>>19769896
It has plot. Also be sure to read the manga for Episode 8 once you're done since it adds new content.

>>19769896

It has some major revelations so yes

>>19769661

Steam version still has the OG sprites. I make it a point to mention that before they start playing

>>19770435
Fair enough, but like you said, the original art tends to dissuade potential readers. Personally I think as far as good first impressions go, I think the best bet would be showing them something like the full PS3 port, with it's HD graphics, voice acting, animation, and other fancy features.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=938ZxXGICI0
Something like this would be good, if only there was one for the first few Episodes without a bunch of spoilers.
You could also show them some of the OPs, be it OG, PS3, or even the anime one since it's actually good.

>>19769661
>>19769677
I had him read And Then There Were none to see if he likes that kind of story and if he does, try out Umineko and if not, Higurashi. I wanted to present him these images and see which he goes with without being too biased because I would try to force the original sprites with possibly no voice acting, but I know voice acting is good for a large amount of players.

Satako is a loser! What a loser!

>>19770696
I understand that Umineko wasn't made with voice acting in mind, and that the voices can somewhat diminish the impact of the incredible OST. Normally I might even agree to forego them altogether, but with how great a job all the VAs did, I feel like it more than makes up for what it detracts.

As for the sprites, it's more of a stylistic choice. I've heard some people complain about the PS3 ones being less expressive or lacking the intimacy and charm of Ryukishi's art style. While it's a valid point, I just can't help but admire the sprites for their level of detail and proportion, as well as the skillfulness with which they translate Ryukishi's designs into the more realistic anime-esque style most are used to.

Another thing most people seem to overlook entirely are the backgrounds, which is a shame considering just how stunning some of the ones in the PS3 version are. The filtered photographs in the original were a clever way to save costs for an independent game maker while adding a nice aesthetic, but I've never found myself looking at any of them and thinking, "man this would make a nice desktop" like I have with some of the PS3 art.

Honestly if it weren't for the dubious translation, I'd wholeheartedly accept the PS3 port as my personal definitive version of Umineko.

>>19770725
Can you not patch the steam version with all the PS3 stuff?

>>19770734
I know there's a patch out there somewhere for just the voices and sprites. I highly doubt you could patch all the other stuff in there though, since the PS3 port seems to run on an entirely different engine rather than just being a reskin of the original with new assets.

>>19769928
>reading the side material is mandatory to understand what's going on
I see Ryukishi has been learning from Disney.

>>19770940
It isn't though, it just adds some new stuff but isn't mandatory at all.

>>19770955
Yeah, just like the Star Wars books only add some new stuff that isn't mandatory at all. Like the entire fucking setting, what the Rebels are, what the First Order is, why Luke managed to bring Darth Vader from the dark side yet immediately tried to shank Ben in his sleep.

>>19770962
you can read the vn and understand everything
the same way that you don't have to read all the extra higurashi arcs to understand higurashi, It's mostly fluff

>>19770967
You won't distract me from my anger toward Disney.
I am angry! Angry about Disney!

>>19768924
what's your opinion on the magic of certainty ?
do you think human actually hold some of that power?

>>19770962
I don't know about any of that stuff.
The manga just clarifies the solutions that the vn specifically left out so that people would think for themselves, and to help avoid widespread spoilers. These solutions can still be figured out from the vn alone. The manga just confirms them.

Other than that, it's just a bunch of stuff they thought of afterwards to improve the final Episode.

>>19770962
The books add some character motives but you can work it all out yourself if you aren't dumb.

>>19770982
Not really. Without the books, you don't know why it's the Rebels who fight the first Order instead of the Republic. You don't understand why Leia isn't helping the Republic. You don't understand why the First Order targers the Republic and not the Rebels. You don't understand why General Hux is the General, despite being the youngest member of the First Order you'll see on screen. You don't understand why Phasma is supposed to be badass instead of being that scrub who appears three times in the movie, and then get shoved in the trash bin.

>>19766231
>he's not delusional
>he lives within "reality"'s bounds
>he's probably a wageslave too
>going to go bonkers from boring grey monotony rather than belief in cute loli witches
how does it feel to be neurotypical normie-kun?

>>19770987
I'm talking about Umineko, not Star Wars.

>>19771019
What the fuck does neutotypical even means?

>>19771023
And I'm ranting about these clueless faggots being as cryptic, and then explaining shit in side materials that you can buy for brouzoufs.
My legs are ok.

>>19770962
>>19770987
Good thing the Episode 8 manga is just a few scenes being redone. It's not on the level of an entire universe that's developed by multiple writers for decades, it's just one guy's doujin group. The only thing Umineko really has in common with Star Wars is that it's getting a 9th Episode as well.

>>19771032
Don't remind me. I liked the 7th one even if it wasn't anything new, the 8th had literally only one good scene, and it contradicts a lot of the old lore, I have very low expectations for the 9th one.

>>19770975
will give you an answer tomorrow, maybe in the next thread, okay? Might be busy in the immediate future, but yes, the magic of certainty is precisely humanity's proper magic, and it's an idea I'm in love with. That's why I'm lambda anon, of all characters. Did you understand what I was saying about love and water in Buddhism earlier?

>>19771087
love is with-holding personal bias when interpreting others views or beholding their actions, according to you, deshou?

>>19771087
I'd love to say yes, alas I am not very versed in philosophy,
regardless, I enjoy your posts and try to grasp whatever I can decipher
godspeed lambda anon

>>19771100
That's a good understanding of it, but personal bias isn't enough. Water is amorphous. It has no slants or edges, and these are as far as biases go, but to become truly amorphous, you set your most rudimentary values aside. These are the sorts of cognitive paradigms you take for granted until you're forced to introspect deep within yourself, but even further for certainty. Embodying sunyata is abandoning yourself to see your place in relation to others by becoming amorphous, yet perfectly reflective of any container you desire. This is the true meaning of ego death. Like just reread all the aqueous content with the words ego death in your mind and it should come together without any fuss. Ego death is only memed into being a consequence of psychoactives, but this is what it really means to say. Romantic love, familial love, friendly love, etc, these all come after you learn to understand one another by putting your paradigms aside and becoming water, or having essential love.

>>19771116
Hey I explained it a bit more above. Lmk how you feel about it.

>>19769677
Krauss' goblin face in the pachinko art never fails to amuse me
but I thing pachi Rudolf is actually the best
also Chiru pachinko sprites > Alchemist sprites fite me

>>19771116
Looks like philosobabbleanon's posts are convoluted enough to get people to think outside their brains a little, somehow it reminds me of this old tale I once read... https://principiadiscordia.com/book/12.php

>>19771151
isn't that impossible since our senses are just imperfect interpretation of the world made to fit into our preconceived idea of reality?
Or is it an equation approaching infinity kind of deal where what you described is a goal to walk toward to but never attainable

or am I just stupid? sont be afraid to said so if what i'm telling there is completely off topic

>>19750603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lfKRZPs7kQ
You all forgot about this BGM! How could you?

>>19771671
Not at all, I had it on my playlist forever now.

>>19771671
what about this one ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV0OnZtHHz4

I heard it a few times but I need to ask, why do people not like Dir that much?

>>19771726
I do like it so I don't really know, the very beginning is a little weird though.

happiness of marionette is great

>>19771815
https://youtu.be/zxU2aLGRRMc?t=1m50s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaUMnhyk4UQ
Does this song ever play in-game, vocal or not because I don't recall it at all and it's pretty good.

>>19771867
It's the pachinko ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuJ8t32Xc1I

I don't think It's used anywhere else

>>19771827
Comfy

>>19771815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47OaskWGKw

Anyone have Shannon's Pachinko sprite, I need it for reasons.

>>19772170
I really like this

>>19772170
>savon de fleur

>>19772199
higanbana ost is fantastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THgbQK2-g0c

I finished Umineko 1-8 and Higurashi 1-6 with PS3 sprites, backgrounds and voices.
What should I do now? Wait until Higurashi 7-8 release or play some other version?

>>19772412
Go and pirate it somewhere, that is what I did with 6-8.

>>19772412
read higurashi with the original sprites

>>19772412
Play another version. WTC5 will likely have its Question Arc released by the time Higurashi 7 and 8 arrives.

>>19772538
I am surprised they finished Umineko when they did.

>>19772538
I love the steam description since it doesn't reveal anything about the story

>>19771019
>not delusional
Which is fine.

>lives within "reality"'s bounds
Like everyone, even you.

>probably a wageslave too
My parents take care of me.

>going to go bonkers from boring grey monotony rather than belief in cute loli witches
Life is not so boring if you know where to look. The trick is not to sit still, and for someone's as hyperactive as me that's not happening. Also, loli is shit.

>>19771025
According to the wiki, it's a neologism widely used in the autistic community as a label for people who are not on the autism spectrum. Sad, right?

Don't mind me, just posting the best Higanbana song
https://youtu.be/mx_9cD5wlKM

>>19772600
Again?

>>19772589
Ha. Just like these mentally ill people on tumblr use the term CIS.

>>19772634
Really, why not just call yourself hetero, bi or homo? Fucking boring minorities trying to be part of a small group of queers, so dumb.

>>19772670
Because they need to be snowflakes, so instead of using simple words, they use made-up bullshit to so that they can say "you don't understand me, I'm unique".

>>19772589
>it's a neologism widely used in the autistic community as a label for people who are not on the autism spectrum
The fact that these people make fun of others for not having a mental disability is just bizarre

>>19772740
Welcome to the internet. It allows everyone to speak with anyone, but it also enforces communautarism and circlejerking.

>>19772749
You have to admit it's pretty hilarious.

>>19772740
>The fact that these people make fun of others for not having a mental disability is just bizarre
but no one does

>>19772759
I suppose. I have stopped finding such things hilarious a while ago. It's like DPS, at first, his stupidity is hilarious. But the deeper you go, the less funny it becomes, and it becomes more and more sad.

Greeks used to say that Comedy was just Tragedy and Time, I think it's the opposite.

>>19772768
See >>19771019

>>19772772
I guess that means I still need to mature, or I'm just a sadist, or both.

>>19772787
Or maybe I'm just depressive because I find everything sad.
When there are differences in interpretation, do no assume you are the one at fault.

>>19772538
>Rena is the face of Onikakushi
>K1 is the face of Tsumihoroboroshi
oops

>>19772787
>>19772800
so you're taking a shitpost seriously and then get offended over it?
huh ? You're so pathetic, do you enjoy getting offended over something insignificant just to grasp the illusion that you are superior over everyone because you laugh over and/or don't understand the feeling of so many people
fools, both of you

>>19772826
What the fuck are you babbling about?

>>19772821
keiichi's sprite doesn't appear until ep 5 or 6 iirc

>>19772800
Nah, you're fine. I'm the jerk here by making fun of the autistic guy. Cheer up! Life is a circle, you might be sad today but happy tomorrow.

>>19772826
>offended over it?
Not at all, I'm giggling here, are you the guy who made that post?

>>19772834
see
>>19772740

>>19772840
That anon is not offended, just weirded out, you dumbo.

>>19772837
>hmmmg these fools, for using the word cis, they should know I laugh over their pathetic little lives

>>19772837
Nothing wrong with making fun of autistic people. As long as it's only on the internet. Over the last years, internet stuff have started to spill in real life, and I can't say I like this.

>>19772840
And? Assuming it's true, he's right. Mentally ill people have making up words to refer to normal people. And since using "normie" is too mainstream, they make up some cool-sounding word. It's just creepy.

>>19772853
are you seriously mad that a word referring to people without mental illnesses exists?

>>19772850
What? I wasn't talking about dumb cis, but the dude with autism, you idiot.

>>19772850
Yes. Such laugh. Much giggling.

>>19772865
Mad? No.
Creeped out? Yes.
Finding it pathetic and pitiable? Yes.
Feeling sorry for the autistic kids trying so hard to make up new insults? Yes.

>>19772865
Anon is not mad? I guess you're the guy with autism. A little butthurt there?

>>19772870
I seriously have no idea what's in your mind
you must have a huge inferiority complex to think that the word neurothypical is an insult the first time you see it, and on top of that trying to turn that into an illusion of your superiority
>>19772873
nope, and I'm pretty sure that the series of posts about the guy pretending to see witches and having autism was a shitpost
you know, because characters in Umineko embrace that same illusion the same way?

>>19772888
Even now, I can't help but feel sorry for you.

>>19772891
ok

>>19772888
If it was just a shitpost then why that guy replied to be calling me a neutotypical normie-kun? Like, using a term so weird that only autists would know... lol

there's nothing wrong with having imaginary friends stop bullying me

>>19772947
You're older now! Stop having a dumb waifu and get a gf already.

>>19772959
you sound just like my mother

>>19772947
Yu Gi... The cards are your friend. But at your age, you could have real friends too...

>>19772966
Good, now go and obey your mom.

>>19772984
no!

>>19773056
Why some people hate fun and prefer to stay inside their minds? Oh well, seeya wizard-kun.

>>19772740
Normality is a mental illness, so-called mental illness is breaking free from it. Enjoy your "not-so-boring" life till its very end, normie-kun.

>>19773540
cringe

>>19773540
>I'm not crazy, you are