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Visual Novel translation status


>Aiyoku No Eustia - 49.50% Translated, 39.57% edited
Amagami - "Script translation done. 618/2308 original edition scenario scripts edited (26.7%)"
Amayui Castle Meister - Prologue patch released
Clover Day's - 100% translated, editing + TLC still to go
Chaos;Head Noah - Fan translation ongoing
Dragon Knight 4 - Being translated
Fate/Extra CCC - 17% translated
Gakuen Heaven 2 - Demo released
HaraChuchu - Kukuri + Mei + Ena (aside from epilogue) routes patch released
>Haruka ni Aogi, Uruwashi no - 12% (8047/68206) translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 Append Discs - Kyou and Maya scenerios released
Hoka no Onna - 100% translated, looking to go official
Junketsu Megami-Sama - New partial patch released
Kanojo to Ore to Koibito to - 8% (2443/28887) lines translated
Lovely x Cation 2 - Project slow but active again
Lover Able - 100% translated, 39.56% edited
>Maji Koi A-3 - 38/95 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3 semi-active projects, one project released ch 1-7
Monster girl quest paradox - Part 1 patch released
Musumaker - 52.0% translated
Nanatsuiro Drops - Partial patch with episodes 1 and 2 released
Nursery Rhyme - 100% translated, 50% edited
>Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts through TLC+Editing, 264/268 scripts finalized
>Pure Pure - 80.25% translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 116405/257436 (45.2%) characters translated
>Shin Koihime Musou - 96% (104870/108888) translated, 28% (30290/108888) edited
Tsuriotsu - 7637/31643 (24.1%) lines translated, 4080/31643 (12.9%) lines edited
Ushinawareta Mirai o Motomete - 34% (11889/35476) lines translated
Watashi wa Kyou Koko de Shinimasu - 12% (269/2265) lines translated
Witch's Garden - 47% (25157/53677) lines translated
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.88%, Motoka 51.62%, Common and Kazuha fully edited


Official work

MangaGamer
>Sweet Switch - Released
>Tsui Yuri - September 6th release
Higurashi Hou - Chapter 6 released, chapters 7-8 through TLC+Editing, answer arcs to be released within a year and Rei arcs started
Koropokkur - Kickstarter started, Japanese version getting ready to go into Beta, localizing 60% finished, September release
Bokuten - Port in progress
>SukiSuki - In Beta, rights situation cleared up
Maggot Baits - 93% translated, 45% edited
Hadaka Shitsuji fandisc - Picked up
Shiei no Sona-Nyl - 55% translated
Hashihime - 100% translated and edited, in beta shortly
Trinoline - 100% translated, 76% edited
Damekoi - "Beta testing complete, in scripting"
Room No.9 - Picked up
Sengoku Rance - 100% translated and edited, in beta shortly
Rance Quest - 100% translated, 87% edited
Bitter Exclusion - Through beta
Overdrive's Final title - English release planned
Amatarasu Riddle Star - 88% translated, 58% edited
Steam Prison - 100% translated and edited
Kindred Spirits on the Roof: Full Chorus - Picked up
Kyonyuu Fantasy 2 - 93% translated, 67% edited
Rance IX - 100% translated
Rance X - Picked up
Luckydog1 - Picked up
Lilycle Rainbow Stage - 100% translated and edited
>Fxxx Me Royally - Roughly 10% translated
>Kotonoha Amrilato - Picked up
>Ano Harewataru Sora yori Takaku - Translation and editing finished
>Choukou Tenshi Escalayer - Picked up

JAST
Flowers - Volume 2 Released, officially picked up Volume 3
Katahane - Fully translated, in editing + QC, Early 2018 release
Majikoi - 2018 release
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sumaga- Fully translated, 70% edited
Machine Child - Announced
Sweet Pool - Picked up
Princess X fandisc - Picked up
Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi - Picked up
Togainu no Chi - Picked up
Dramatical Murder - Picked up
Lamento Beyond the Void - picked up
Slow Damage - Picked up

Age titles with various publishers
Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Localization finished, technical work remains
Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - Translation ongoing
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up

Aksys
Tantei Jinguuji Saburou Ghost of the Dusk - 2018 release
Death Mark - Picked up

Spike Chunsoft
428: Shibuya Scramble - September 4th release
Steins;Gate Elite - Early 2019 release
YU-NO - 2019 release

>> No.19639765

Sekai/Denpa/Maiden
Koikuma - New round of QA starting, 2018 release
Dracu-Riot - Through 1st round of QA, fixes from QA next before more QA
Nanairo Reincarnation - In QA, waiting on a third party
Baldr Sky - 50% translated
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - 100% translated
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - 50% translated
Riajuu Plus - Release "within a couple months"
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 33% translated
Creature to Koi Shiyo!! for Otome - Waiting on a third party
Miko no Kanata - Picked up
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
Tenshin Ranman - QA and engine work next
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
CyberRebeat - QA done, need fixes
G-senjou no Maou - Denpa version announced
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
Rewrite+ - Picked up
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Senren * Banka - Picked up
Ninja Girl - 100% translated
Island Diary - Announced
Love Duction - 100% translated, needs engine work
Koi ni, Kanmi o Soete - Need fixes before more QA
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - Picked up
Sumire - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 2 - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 3 - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 0 - Picked up
Re;Lord Volume 2 - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work
Majo Koi Nikki - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work
Harumade Kururu - 75% edited, awaiting engine work, 2019 release
9 -nine- - 100% translated, 0% edited, awaiting engine work
Tokyo Chronos - Kickstarter ongoing

Frontwing
Sharin no Kuni - Targeting a September release
Island - Summer release
Loca-Love - Fall release
Lilitales - Picked up

Sol Press
>Newton to Ringo no Ki - August 15th release
Sakura Sakura - Demo released, remain work includes finishing the increase in resolution
Yotsunoha - Q3 release, starting QA, demo Released

Nekonyan
Sanoba Witch - 100% translated, 70% edited, October 26th release
Hello,good-bye - 60% translated, 25% edited, November release
Fureraba ~Friend to Lover~ Mini Fandisc - Fall release
Fureraba Complete edition - Vita exclusive content to be added to Fureraba a couple months after the fandisc release
Suki to Suki to de Sankaku Ren'ai - Early 2019 release
Melty Moment - Aiming for a release next Winter
"Two big titles" to be announced in August

Cherry Kiss
Harem Guild - Upcoming release
Nekura Ijimerarekko o Tasuketara Natsukareta - Picked up
Tenshi to Akuma to Elf ga Oyome ni Kimashita - 1/3rd translated

Fakku
Hemoimo - Dropped by SakuraGame and no longer being released on Steam, upcoming Fakku release planned. Currently waiting on beta build
Love Cube - Picked up

Other
>Your Diary+ - Released
Tayutama 2 - August release, R18 patch planned but may not be ready at launch
Punchline - Summer 2018 release
E-Gene - 1st entry planned for Fall 2018
London Detective Mysteria - Fall 2018 release
Magical Charming - Release planned
Song of Memories - 2018 release
Neighbor - 2018 release, 100% translated, editing to start soon
Venus Blood Frontier - Prefundia up, Kickstarter in August
Angel Beats - 50% translated
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
Seven Days - Picked up
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>> No.19640126

AnoHare is already through both TL and Editing? Well thats kind of nice.

>> No.19640460

>>19639763
>Damekoi - "Beta testing complete, in scripting"

I hope this can come out within the next 5 months.

>> No.19640500

https://twitter.com/Conjueror/status/1028245825066070016
It's probably Gensou no Idea to go with that Sorcery Jokers hint, isn't it?


>>19640460
Depends on whether they get Happiness Motion and if there's a difference in programming between the two versions of it.

>> No.19640540

Do you transition from manga to VN? I remember going from anime to manga just because I wanted to continue a series, then I got sucked in to the whole thing. Now I prefer manga most of the time. Sorry if this question is dumb or redundant, I'm just curious a bit.

>> No.19640580

>>19640540
Other than a handful of exceptions, I don't like anime or manga.

>> No.19640590

>>19640580
Unless you're not native japanese, how did you get started oin VN? I love to read and I'm curious where to start.

>> No.19640591

>>19640540
I skipped straight from anime to VNs because anime romance is garbage and I realised VNs do it much better.

>> No.19640604

>>19640590
The first VN I read was Yume Miru Kusuri years ago

>> No.19640623

>>19640591
>>19640604
Is there a website or app for easy access, or do i have to become a buyfag?
Also since qualities obviously differ between mediums, any recommendations for? Not very picky on genre, i can appreciate good work.

>> No.19640635

>>19640500
>>19640460

Conjueror already confirmed that they are using the new remastered version and that it's finally moving in scripting. The lack of programmers/hackers keeps quite a few visual novels from being released sooner.

>> No.19640642

>>19640623
The best VN is the anime adaptation of Clannad

>> No.19640745 [DELETED] 

>>19640590
My discord community can probably spoonfeed you the best things.

>> No.19640757

>>19640745
Kill yourself.

>> No.19640763

>>19640540
If they actually went for the anime VN spinn-offs, they could probably attract a ton of readers. But they seem to always ignore these titles. Despite that these are the glorious all-ages in many cases.

>> No.19640765

>>19640757
Too busy playing NewRin.

>> No.19640779

>>19640765
Not too busy to shitpost and shill your shitty discord here though.

>> No.19640797
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>>19640779
boo I'm a scary anon

>> No.19640899

Since the announcements I've been visiting various threads from /u/ to /haniho/ to gauge the interest and how the announced titles were received by various visual novel fans, here's a small summary:

>Fxxx Me Royally!! ~ Horny Magical Princess ~
Released this year in Japan, from the same developer as Fashioning Little Miss Lonesome and with over 250 shares and almost 500 likes on twitter, MangaGamer seems to have another best selling hit on their hands. Almost all comments are them thanking MangaGamer for picking it up to pleasetakemymoney.jpg.

>The Expression Amrilato!
Pretty much the same reaction as Fxxx Me Royally!! ~ Horny Magical Princess ~ but only smaller.

>Beat Angel Escalayer R
Some mixed reactions, a few people expected them to pick up Oyako Rankan or even Daiteikoku and got a bit mad, /haniho/ seems to be more excited about Evenicle 2. On twitter all comments are positive and for a gameplay nukige it got almost 200 likes.

>Farther than the Blue Sky
The least received titles with mixed reactions. Comments range from: Why pick up this ''old'' shit to GayGamer. Most people are happy that SukiSuki got finally out of licensing hell.
It also got the least amount of likes and shares from the 4 announced titles.

MangaGamer's Top 5 Chart:

1. Sweet Switch
2. Treasure Hunter Claire
3. Evenicle
4. Sisterly Bliss ~Don't Let Mom Find Out~
5. Hapymaher

MangaGamer has still a huge nukige fanbase, so Sweet Switch reaching 1st place despite being a shorter 15$ title is no surprise.
Treasure Hunter Claire is still in the chart all the time and depending how long it will stay in the chart it could do as well, maybe even surpass, Fallen ~Makina and the City of Ruins~.
Evenicle too is still in the chart ever since the pre-order for it went live (May 31st) and will most likely continue to be there for a bit more.
Konyruu saying during the panel that if people want to see more PurpleSoft titles that they should buy Hapymaher isn't really a good sign. While Hapymaher isn't a best selling title, I wouldn't really call it a huge flop too. Just like Tokyo Babel it could break even or make a profit over time if it continues like this.

>> No.19641061

>>19640899
It is still amazing how many Claire and Makina they sell on MG. It is after all free patch Steam games so one would expect a large portion of the sales happen there.

But I still expect Sekai to not learn a single thing about free patches and still insist that "It is the Japanese who want money, we just say yes and let their games fail".

>> No.19641073

HareTaka was one of my smaller Never Evers so I'm pretty happy to see it picked up and SukiSuki out of legal issues

>> No.19641153

>>19640899
Eh, otomefags and fujoshi just have a stronger presence on social media than other fans. That said, even if it's not on Steam, I can't imagine it not at least breaking even, but Kalmia8 seems to be in such a position where they need a lot of Western money just to stay afloat.

Most sales of The Expression Amrilato will likely be on Steam.

There are more than enough people liking Escalayer that it will probably sell on its own merits. Haruka probably sold largely on its own merits too. If there is a significant sales difference, it will likely be simply due to price. I'd imagine that Escalayer R will be $45 because it's a HD gameplay nukige. /haniho/ isn't a great representation of sales for the Beat series because I would say that the group interested in AS's gameplay focused titles like the Dai series or Rance are a wholly seperate audience from those interested in the Beat series. The ones interested in the Beat series also seem separate from the ones interested in Alicesoft's milf nukige, but maybe a separation only seems apparent because of a few vocal people.

/vn/ seems to consider Farther than the Blue Sky shit due to various tags like One True End. While I'd imagine that Suki Suki probably will sell better due to better art, /vn/ isn't the greatest representation of the buyer base. If Maitetsu is any indication, then vehicle autism isn't quite enough to sell, but that release has had a myriad of other issues.

>> No.19641156

>>19641153
>Haruka probably sold largely on its own merits too
Hah, no.

>> No.19641166

>>19641156
/haniho/ is pretty autistic, but they aren't autistic enough to buy a game that they don't like for half a year.

>> No.19641178

>>19641166
Buy Haruka.

>> No.19641179

>>19640635
I had no clue they were having the remastered version that makes sense why they delayed it and on top of that Rance is on the front row seat.

>> No.19641198

>>19640899
Honestly this must be the first time Mangagamer has nothing for me. I'm not an otomefag and I never touch anything Alicesoft. The only title left looks like shit.

>> No.19641346

An infodump game that is literally rocket science...sasuga japan.

>> No.19641485

Just for the record, Punch Line got dates announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj1kMUFxlF0

>> No.19641510
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According to Chuablesoft themselves, this is how the game is split into.

Light purple is Summer
Blue is Youthful Club Activities
Yellow is Rocket
Green is Huge Volume (Referring to the story, with more than 3MB worth of dialogue)
Pink is H-Scenes (Each Heroine has at least 5 scenes)

>> No.19641578

>>19640899
>Fxxx Me Royally!! ~ Horny Magical Princess ~

I have to wonder how that will translate over due to it being a different game despite being in the genre.

>The Expression Amrilato!
>Pretty much the same reaction as Fxxx Me Royally!! ~ Horny Magical Princess ~ but only smaller.

Never underestimate the Yuri base I do think it will catch on. Even I was kind of whatever about it but when I read into it. It does seem like a good story than your average Yuri.

>/haniho/ seems to be more excited about Evenicle 2.

Evenicle I believe will sell really well it is the only game I notice fans are interested in.

>Farther than the Blue Sky

It could be that's it's really really vanilla in what it is and plain comfy for normal types. Which of course does not get strong receptions due to the whole crowd that does not like play it safe stuff. But who knows

>Konyruu saying during the panel that if people want to see more PurpleSoft titles that they should buy Hapymaher isn't really a good sign. While Hapymaher isn't a best selling title, I wouldn't really call it a huge flop too. Just like Tokyo Babel it could break even or make a profit over time if it continues like this.

That's not good news I agree. Hopefully it at least picks up more so than usual. I am hoping to see another title of theirs in the store in the future.

>> No.19641592

>>19641578
Vanilla can be good. Princess Evangile sells like hotcakes. This is just boring rocket info dumps. It also looks mediocre and plain.

>> No.19641617

>>19641578
>if people want to see more PurpleSoft titles
I just want the Nekonade games. I don't really care about their other titles.

>> No.19641632

Fortune Arterial full patch when?

>> No.19641714

>>19641592
princess evangile was more of a Romantic Harem. But I agree it is mediocre.

>>19641153
>Suki Suki probably will sell better due to better art,

I believe this as well. But Maitetsu looked really good no lie it really messed up on the release and the controversy surrounding it. Put off people.

>> No.19641798

>Your Diary+ - Released
And it was such a disaster that not even the chinks are buying it, with an all time peak CCU of only 16 players, and initially only available for purchase in USD.
Also, according to this:
https://steamcommunity.com/games/761700/announcements/detail/1716321419873504864
they plan to "address" the English translation's lack of quality in future updates, but I won't hold my breath.

>> No.19641909

>>19641153
Don't take /vn/'s opinions on anything seriously. There's like one or two people who got ultra-triggered from Hapymaher and have been trolling everything that has a true end lately.

>>19641592
Konosora is loaded with glider autism and is one of the best selling VNs though.

>>19641714
At no point did I ever think Maitetsu would sell well

>> No.19642267

>>19640500
Announcements for Anime NYC seems very likely.

>> No.19642330

Looks like the new MG storefront is woocommerce based. Unironically using Wordpress for something that is not a blog.

>> No.19642396

>>19641156
Huniepop is one of MG's bestsellers, so that just shows that gameplay titles do really well on MG's site in general, which means that Haruka likely sold to some degree by itself.

>> No.19642436

>>19641909
>Konosora is loaded with glider autism and is one of the best selling VNs though.
It was released on Steam when Steam sales numbers were still really high.

>> No.19642447

>>19642330
Well, they said before they didn't really have the money for a site overhaul. Guess this is the budget solution that they found. Its current dated looks scares potential buyers away, so they must have decided a modern update was needed even if not optimal.

>> No.19642489

>>19642396
I don't think you know what the "gameplay" in BBH consists of.

>> No.19642518

>>19642489
It's shitty dice rolls and pick your path to the boss. I got stuck since I didn't consult a guide so I gave up finishing it. The story wasn't bad for a nukige though.

>> No.19642527

>>19642489
>>19642518
Oh, and if you're not careful the girls end up way too weak to take on some of the monsters.

>> No.19642534

>>19642489
Not that guy, but I've played it. It's really simplistic, but it's surprisingly addicting because of the dice system. Unlike some really bad H-RPGs, it never felt like it was a pain to play even if it's not exactly good, and it's not the type of game where you have to grind a ton if all you want is the porn.

>> No.19642538

>>19642518
Oh, I still finished it without any problems because I'm not a disgusting casual like you seem to be, but comparing it to real gameplay titles is ridiculous.

>> No.19642555

>>19642527
>>19642518
The weird thing about BBH is that it's balanced on the expectation that you only grind one girl. If you try to grind everyone, you're fucked. At least Escalayer doesn't have that problem.

>> No.19642557

>>19641798
>they plan to "address" the English translation's lack of quality in future updates
For investigative purposes, I've uploaded the game scripts of the current version 1.01. It will be interesting to run a comparison of the current "translation" with any fixes.

https://mega.nz/#!Pv5wAAIb!DhgdJaf8K0NBezr2zVG0r-l33y_oGfPPhW8fd-xtHA8

password:
diarrehea

Another issue there's lots of porn in the game files that doesn't appear to be accessible in game. So expect an "unofficial" patch soon.

>> No.19642589

>>19642555
>If you try to grind everyone, you're fucked.
Basically what I ended up doing.

>>19642538
People will buy whatever "gameplay" titles MG puts out. Even Koihime Musou with its rock-paper-scissors battle system sold a ton of copies. Or Boob Wars and its super simple card battle system.

>I'm not a disgusting casual like you
>but comparing it to real gameplay titles is ridiculous
Elistist weebs are the most embarrassing people of all.

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>>19641346
The writer is pretty great, his most recent work is filled with infodumps on physics and a ton of other scientific concepts. It's amazing how he blends a sex parody of VRMMO isekai with legitimate science backed up by multi-page long graphs. The blend between hilarious antics, engaging plot twists, and legitimate science is nothing short of stunning. What a guy.

>> No.19642606

>>19642330
Is there a source on this? I tried looking through Doddler's twitter but didn't see any posts about it unless I overlooked it.

>> No.19642611

>>19642538
The thing is that even really shitty gameplay titles like Orc Castle do really well at least compared to other nukige their size. Demon Master Chris was also a top seller, and that's pretty much just a slightly better Raidy. The most I could call BBH's gameplay is mediocre, but it still rapes pretty much all of the other first party gameplay titles MG has, except Koihime (I haven't played that one yet).

>> No.19642614

>>19642589
You know what's embarassing? Being so bad that you can't finish a super easy training sim.

>> No.19642624

>>19642614
Like >>19642555 said, certain actions in the game can screw you over.

>> No.19642636

>>19642624
Then don't do them

>> No.19642664 [DELETED] 

>>19642636
I went it blind just for fun and it's just a game so I'm going to be all autistically competitive about it.

>> No.19642687

>>19642636
I went in blind just for fun and it's just a game so I'm not going to be all autistically competitive about it.

>> No.19642696

>>19642687
Obviously, no one should ever use guides. There's no point in doing it then. Not being so retarded that you literally can't progress is not autistic. If you're stuck, load an earlier save until you get unstuck.

>> No.19642733

>>19642696
I could've done that, but I didn't like Haruka enough to try and just moved on another game.

>> No.19642741

>>19642733
That's the good part, Haruka has 2 somewhat appealing heroines and 1 that's used goods. Escalayer has just one glasses bitch. Who'd want that?

>> No.19642775

>>19642741
>Escalayer has just one glasses bitch. Who'd want that?
You'd be surprised how well any title from Alicesoft does, especially with any kind of gameplay, plus it's the HD version.

>> No.19642793

>>19642741
Sayuka and Escalayer are basically different characters. Their dialogue during scenes is pretty different and thanks to the transformation they don't look like the same person (the glasses actually have a big impact on this too). I'm not trying to be pedantic here, if you disagree that's fine, but the game is pretty much build around the idea of Sayuka and Escalayer being the "two" heroines of the game.

>> No.19642827

>>19642793
Heroines as in heroines for the MC to train. I get that she's treated as a different character, but based on the chart most of her scenes are not with the MC.

>> No.19642855

>>19642827
I'm pretty sure most of those are bad ends for losing fights.

>> No.19642901

>>19640635
Can you at least turn off the emote in the remastered version? What I've seen of it looks like shit.

>> No.19642954

>>19642855
No shit. Let me present my point in a different way so even you can understand it.
BBH has 3 heroines, each of which is a completely separate entity. You can have different endings with each of them. All have a lot of vanilla H-scenes and brutal training/lost fight H-scenes.
Escalayer is Sayuka's fighting persona. You can't separate them. You can't have a pure raburabu ending with Escalayer only. The vanilla and brutal/rape H-scenes are split between them, with Sayuka having most of the vanilla scenes + few brutal training scenes and Escalayer having only a few vanilla scenes, few brutal scenes and most of her H presence being in the optional bad ends.

>> No.19643006

>>19642954
That makes sense given the story though, since Escalayer ends up around when the fights are happening thus creating chances for her to lose and get raped. That's too bad, but the story skews the way the H scenes are divided.

>> No.19643012

>>19642827
Oh, in that case, yes. Every Escalayer scene occurs after she loses in battle and gets raped by her opponent (with one exception and one semi-exception).

That said, gameplay in Escalayer R is so bland I don't think anyone should buy the game with any consideration for it. There are some neat ideas as one would expect from A-S but overall it's so simple and mind-numbing that it hardly matters beyond a surface level. H-Scenes with Sayuka gives you points to buy stat upgrades (of which there are 4). In the vast majority of cases keeping an even balance of stats is the right thing to do so there's really not much "training" going on. It's honestly the kind of thing I don't think anyone will really enjoy. It mostly just gets in the way.
>>19642855
I've seen this sentiment a lot but it's actually slightly different, each monster has two scenes - one for the first loss and one for every subsequent loss. The only bad end is if you lose 5 times in total, which gets you an all-purpose "Sayuka gets so corrupted she (spoilers)" ending. Honestly I think I would have preferred it if they were bad endings. As it stands she gets significantly corrupted in the first loss and then basically completely submits to the monster after the second loss, but she always gets freed by your allies and ends up back to normal the day. Not as satisfying as it could have been. It's still nice to see her submit so much, though.

>> No.19643056

>>19643006
Which is why I said calling it 2 heroines is bullshit. It's like they made one part of her for vanillafags and the second part for NTRfags, with both of them having just a bit of the other's speciality as well. Well, I'll still pirate it, and drop it depending on the seiyuu's performance in H-scenes (which is another thing, both of them are voiced by just one seiyuu, so it's even more of a hit and miss)

>> No.19643090

In the first place, you shouldn't try to separate Escalayer into vanilla and brutal/rape. You can't even do a vanilla run of the game, as far as I'm aware there's an unavoidable gangbang scene at the very end of the plot no matter what you do. I was really caught off guard at first, questioning why A-S would spoil purity runs like that, but then I realized the simple fact that A-S simply does not consider Escalayer to be a game where purity matters. Escalayer/Sayuka getting raped and gangbanged is just part of her character. It's part of the game - the bulk of the game, even. There's a decent amount of vanilla - over thirty scenes, even, more than many smaller nukige - but buying the game for the vanilla and trying to stay pure is simply "doing it wrong", so to speak, and A-S doesn't care about pushing those users out of their comfort zone.
>>19643056
There are different ways to interpret the phrase "two heroines". I said they're basically different heroines due to the difference in their personalities and appearance (basically focusing on variety), which is valid. But you're more focused on seiyuu and plot and so on, which is valid too.

>> No.19643154

>>19643090
Well, fuck that. I love fapping to rape and NTR, but it's not cool when it's canon.

>> No.19643205

>>19643154
It's just the game it is. It's a corruption game where over 1/2 of the H-content is rape. I think when you start worrying about the "canon" you've kind of missed the point. Like, are you really going to enjoy the 20+ monster rapes scenes less because she canonically gets raped? I don't really think so, I think that's kind of being unreasonable. I respect A-S for going forth with their vision without catering to the 処女厨 crowd like every other company does nowadays. To each their own of course.

>> No.19643235

>>19643205
>Like, are you really going to enjoy the 20+ monster rapes scenes less because she canonically gets raped?
No, I am going to enjoy the vanilla scenes much less. BBH had half of the game as netorase and mind break rape, yet you could still end up with one of the two pure heroines in a happily ever after. And after I had that ending, I would do a what-if route, for mindless fapping to the non-vanilla. Cum dumps can't have happy endings.

>> No.19643253

>>19643235
Well, if it makes you feel better, she gets raped in the Escalayer bio-body, so her normal body which she returns to later is still a virgin and all that good stuff. It actually poses some interesting questions on what people really care about when it comes to purity.

>> No.19643277

>>19643253
It doesn't.

>> No.19643467

>>19643235
Haruka was raped during the plot though. Same with Subaru if you count her as a heroine.

>> No.19643508

>>19643467
Please, futa doesn't count. And I already said Subaru is used goods.

>> No.19643514

>>19643090
>A-S doesn't care about pushing those users out of their comfort zone.

Half of the reason I find Toushin Toshi II endearing is the many lengths the narrative takes to guilt trip the player into not wanting the H-scene.

>> No.19643980

>>19643508
>Please, futa doesn't count.
Okay, clearly even you understand how ridiculous you're being, right?

>> No.19644004

>>19643980
Do you really not see the difference between a bunch of old dudes filling all her holes, and a bit of skinship with her mindcontrolled FEMALE friend? It's like girls making out with each other during a 3P. It just doesn't even matter.

>> No.19644059

>>19644004
I can understand purity fags, but at the point of being pounded by a futa, I think purity is out of the question.

Well, don't worry about it. I don't even know why I made that reply. I know eroge readers come in all shapes and sizes of insanity, you're no exception.

>> No.19644088

>>19644059
You need to understand that other women are no threat. They can fool amongst themselves all they want, no matter if they have a temporary dick. They're all MC's bitches in the end.

>> No.19644433

>Maji Koi A-3 - 38/95 scripts translated
Translated by 2030.

>> No.19644770

Any chance of new subahibi chapter getting translation?

>> No.19645451

>>19643154
Man I hope you don't read Maggot Baits

>> No.19645766

>>19643090
>buying the game for the vanilla
You can say that for every AliceSoft title. None of them are for vanilla/purityfags.

>> No.19646186

>Fxxx Me Royally!! ~ Horny Magical Princess ~

Kinda curious about this. The synopsis makes it seem as though the MC takes a fairly proactive role, while with most otome games I've read they tend to be somewhat passive.

>> No.19646479

>>19645766
Purityfags in Japan probably figured out a long time ago to stay away from Alicesoft. You'd think that Western purityfags would have figured it out with Rance's reputation, but Evenicle sucker punched them even though MG went out of their way to show the first hour of gameplay (complete with the dramatic consequences of the rape scene).

>> No.19646518

>>19639763
>>Choukou Tenshi Escalayer - Picked up
Good to see this finally being picked up. I really liked Haruka.

>> No.19646522

>>19646479
I'd be OK with Rance if he was the only one fucking the women. That's my personal tastes though. I'm not playing anything where the girls are fucked by anyone/anything other than the MC.

>> No.19646562

>>19646522
Rance doesn't let any dude touch his women (but they can touch each other). They even changed that one scene in III because of this.
If anything like that happens after SR then don't spoil me, faggots.

>> No.19646657

>>19646562
And all the other AS games I've played have completely avoidable NTR. At most, the heroines you didn't pick get fucked. But if you try your hardest, your heroine never gets fucked. Claiming used goods like in BBH or Evenicle is incomparable to someone else taking what's already yours.
Rewarding effort with an unavoidable gangbang which nullifies what you've been trying to do the whole game (max the stats so the heroine doesn't lose and get raped) does go against everything that's common sense.

>> No.19646720

>>19646657
>completely avoidable NTR
I still won't play it. That only makes me feel like shit with various degrees of route guilt. AliceSoft simply isn't for me People of different tastes like them so good for them.

>> No.19646729

>>19646562
SR has Group Sex of One Female and Several Males and monster rape.

>> No.19646737

>>19646562
>Rance doesn't let any dude touch his women
Kanami disagrees.

>> No.19646776

Is Swaneye dead?

>> No.19646777

>>19646737
>They even changed that one scene in III because of this
>>19646729
Happens either before Rance fucks them, or is preventable.

>> No.19646788

>>19646777
>preventable
That's the same stuff as the other games from the same company. It's in the game, avoidable or not doesn't matter.

>> No.19646842

>>19646788
You must really be mentally retarded. Of course it's the same stuff as the other games. That's my point. I've been saying that Escalayer is the exception to this if what anon said up above is true.
>avoidable or not doesn't matter.
Think about what you're saying real hard. I'll help you with it. There can be a ton of bad ends where various characters die gruesome deaths. Does it then matter if they die in the good/true ends?
Your choices stopping something really bad from happening is the point of playing these kinds of games with what-if NTR scenarios like Mamatoto, Tsumamigui, Oyako Rankan.

>> No.19647056

>>19641153
I don't think it's just Kalmia8. Tennenouji (Luckydog1) seem to be in a similar position.

They licensed the original to Mangagamer despite having a remake in development for 5 years. A month after the Mangagamer announcement, Luckydog1 Bad Egg had a release date announced (and that only 1 of the original voice actors would be returning due to costs).

Mangagamers license seems to have funded the remake. But now people have identified a number of issues with the translation, so it's getting a low quality shitty release.

>> No.19647140

BBH was really hot, honestly. I loved the Haruka corruption scenes

>> No.19647651

>>19647056
Wasn't Luckydog1 really popular though? I think it even had a stage play adaptation, but I'm not exactly sure how much that matters. Well, it could always be a case of extreme fund mismanagement.

Kalmia8's reliance on the West can pretty much be shown by how they licensed out a VN that was just released in March. It's probably a matter of time before they develop based on what they think the Western otome fanbase will like if they haven't started doing that already. inb4 their next otome game has an overpatriotic American protagonist.

Despite also giving out recent titles, Alicesoft seems more than well off enough that they didn't have to rely on the West if they didn't want to. The extra money is nice, but not necessary. That said, their enthusiasm for the West seems to be in part due to their pessimism of the Japanese eroge market. Alicesoft is planting roots in the West so that if it ever comes to the point where Alicesoft needs Western money, they don't have to worry too much about getting it. It's better to start investing into new markets while you're still doing well for yourself rather than try to break into a new market as a last ditch effort to stay afloat.

>> No.19647764

>>19644770
I'll have it done by the end of the week.

>> No.19647772

>>19647764
Apparently, aroduc is working on it as well.

>> No.19648095

>>19647651
LD1 was popular in Japan. They announced an expansion pretty quickly (Bad Egg). Then got sidetracked with other projects which didn't do as well (fandisks, short story collections, etc). The manga is particularly funny, Japanese reviews compare the guys to Gorillas (https://www.amazon.co.jp/d/4040662571/).).

It wasn't until the past 18-24 months that it seems the financial situation may have changed. All of a sudden they started whoring out the property further (while still not releasing Bad Egg).

It got an IOS and Android port without new content. Then got a Vita port with minimal new content. Then they started licensing it to odder places (Laptop shells, perfume line, etc). Followed by a stage show and Mangagamer license.

Bad Egg is now finally releasing in December (as a remake now). They've dragged out the release so much that it's biting them.

>> No.19648374

Is maggot baits the next euphoria? I need a new fix after all these years.

Most other VN ive played are boring as fuck.

>> No.19648382

>>19648374
Not really, no. Euphoria has some pretty extreme content but Maggot Baits is straight up guroge.

>> No.19648398

>>19648374
>next euphoria
No fucking way. Euphoria was a pure love story in its core. Maggot baits is just chuuni guroshit with extreme fetishes. People expecting something like Euphoria will be really disappointed.

>> No.19648414

>>19648374
>>19648382
>>19648398
I wish MG brought more vanilla like titles from clockup. Stuff like MAKO HUNTER.

>> No.19648438

>>19648382
>>19648398
>>19648414


fml I cant keep replaying that one forever. Anything with similar content to Rinne route?
BDSM, tickling, mindbreak to a slutty kuudere

>> No.19649905

>>19639763
>>SukiSuki - In Beta, rights situation cleared up

Only two mo... HORY SHEEET!

>> No.19650210

Seems they're censoring Newrin.
There goes the last hope I had for this industry.

>> No.19650227

>>19650210
My hope for Newrin died when I heard it wasn't being released on anything besides steam.

>> No.19650241

>>19650227
That guy even said they were better than sekai kek.

>> No.19650258

>>19650210
If you had hope for Newrin you didn't play the beta.
>>19650227
I think they plan on releasing it on other platforms but they just aren't ready to do so right now.

>> No.19650265

>>19650258
Based Hata.

>> No.19650270

>>19650265
I meant demo, please don't mix me up with that attention whore.

>> No.19650283

>>19650270
No need to be shy my dude.

>> No.19650290

>>19650210
Care to elaborate?

>> No.19650292

>>19650258
I didn't play the trial, what are the issues?

>> No.19650297

>>19650290
Words like breasts, masochism, and sex are censored.

>> No.19650305

>>19650210
You fucks act like there won't be a patch releasing alongside the game.

>> No.19650322

>>19650297
First of all, do you have examples of such? Second of all, that may just be for the Steam version not the 18+ patch.

>> No.19650335

Is Hata /our guy/ yet /jp/?

>> No.19650379

>>19650335
Isn't it just some random faggot name-fagging?

>> No.19650820

>>19648438
Sorry man Euphoria was it's own concept besides Fraternite(which was rushed at the end).

>> No.19650871
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19650871

>>19650322
Yeah I do have examples of such and yes it will be for the steam version.

https://i.imgur.com/A2Oa44p.jpg
(おめえ、童貞か?)

https://i.imgur.com/k3do6b4.jpg
(例えば、オメェ。こっち来てどうしてる? いつ抜いてんだ? 俺は地下ドメで一人からいいけどよ)

https://i.imgur.com/QoHSMU1.jpg
(Happy guy here means "M" ドM)


https://i.imgur.com/tWoVEUw.jpg
(胸と度量はちっちゃいだね?)

https://i.imgur.com/3QoRAVj.jpg

But sometimes the innuendos are still kept. I'm very confused by the inconsistency going on here. Also parts of the lines were rewritten so the honorific-settings can make sense. Which makes it weird though.

It kind of feels like the game is overall translated very well, the scientific aspects of it are portrayed well and anything else is nice too. This is due to Laplacians good writing from the start. The edited parts thus feel out of place and like you cut out things, but add band-aids on top of it. It doesn't feel like it should be part of the game, obviously because someone else wrote this section different to how the original writer intended it. I can only imagine they went the safest way next to the steam restrictions as possible and noone should play this abomination of an all-ages version for kids that I have to play atm. I will surely replay it as soon the patch is released.

But don't be thrown off by this. The game itself is really good. The characters are unique, the writing is good and the main character gets good pussy, like he should. Solpress just doesn't want to affiliate themselves with porn games for whatever reason they might have...

maybe they should do it like mangagamer and license all-ages yurige like Amrilato and Lilycle Stage for women and basedboys.

>> No.19650879

>>19650871
/our guy/
>>19650335

>> No.19650881

https://i.imgur.com/Vdav8JC.jpg

Very inconsistent. #nocontext

>> No.19650901

what the fuck i just noticed that the word "s o y b o y" gets censored to "basedboys"

What is this ?

>> No.19650910

>>19650901
How new?

>> No.19650919

Won't lie. I dig Hata more than Chuee desu.

>> No.19650923

>>19650919
>>19650901
Fuck off with your cancerous raid. Go bother someone else.

>> No.19650976

>>19650871
>all-ages yurige like Amrilato and Lilycle Stage for women and basedboys.
>>>/vg/vn

>> No.19650996

This may be a bit off topic but the "learn japanese" thing is seriously driving me crazy sometimes. People drop by to ask a question about a japanese VN and get told to learn an entire fucking language. It is NOT "easy" to learn japanese, yes it may not require a linguistics degree or a ton of skill but it still represents a serious long term investment that also needs to be regularly maintained in order to not fade, and especially if you want to become fluent enough to enjoy and immerse yourself in a VN as much as you could if it were written in your native language. Unless you are a diehard weeb learning an entire language is probably not going to be worth it, especially when you could just.. you know.. read ANOTHER VN instead that HAS been translated. You'd have to be really zealous about reading that particular VN to spend a couple of years becoming fluent in a language for it.

I swear, people talk about learning japanese as it's something you can do with a 20$ evening course. I feel like half of the time it's just people who want to act superior because THEY made that investment, like they don't get enough opportunities to brag about it in their daily life.

Of course I am not against learning a new language, learning languages is actually a hobby of mine and I'm an aspiring polyglot. And I can definitely see value in discussing learning Japanese among hardcore VN fans, but can we stop telling everyone to do it as soon as they have a passing interest in an untranslated VN? It is frankly stupid. No one is going to make an investment like that for a casual hobby.

I'll probably be made fun of for speaking my mind on this, it's been frustrating me for a while though as someone who actually have learned languages and know that it's not as easy as people claim. Imho, a word a day and understanding of what's being talked about is not going to make you fully enjoy literature, you'd be fooling yourself because you like understanding japanese. So stop suggesting this to people who just want to enjoy a good story. It makes you sound like a cringey weeb to people who come from outside to ask questions as well, and it discourages them to get into the medium.

deep breath Maybe I shouldn't have posted this in this thread

>> No.19651021

>>19650996
>deep breath Maybe I shouldn't have posted this in this thread
Correct. Are you sure this wasn't supposed to be posted in the Untranslated VN thread?

>> No.19651024

Newton and the Apple Tree had to be censored in order to be in compliance with Steam's standards.

Currently, the game is one of the only visual novels to be approved for release on Steam in the past few months. The 18+ patch restores all of the content of the game, uncensored, for free.

>> No.19651039

>>19651024
So did steam tell you what to change/censor? If so it seems a bit strange that there are cases like this >>19650881 where things slip through.

>> No.19651065 [DELETED] 

>>19650871
>and yes it will be for the steam version.
So that means it won't be censored/changed for the 18+ patch right?

>> No.19651074

>>19651039
I'm very sure they went way overboard with the censorship here and steam would not have dictated that. I guess the policy here was "better safe than sorry"

>> No.19651077

>>19651024
Okay question answered

>> No.19651086

>>19651074
why does it matter when there's a patch though?

>> No.19651110

>>19651086
It doesn't, the namefag just wants attention for reporting a non-issue.

>> No.19651115

>>19651110
He played the game though.

>> No.19651121

>>19651086
It's more a steam thing and the only thing I did was inform people that there will be patch. The issue is they publish it on steam and steam has a policy against mere mention of the patch on the steam site. They cannot put it on the SolPress Site either apparently. Means that many people on steam will buy it without researching that there is a patch in the first place which can be an issue.

>> No.19651125

>>19651074
We're unable to reveal the contents of our discussions with Steam, however, the game is one of the only vn's to be approved for release on Steam in the past few months, and we have had other companies (including larger companies) asking us how we got through the approval wall.

>> No.19651128

>>19651121
I dunno man you seem to be trying to make this into an issue when it really isn't

>> No.19651131

>>19651115
Without the patch, apparently. Making a review out of that was a mistake for sure.

>> No.19651146

>>19651121
>Means that many people on steam will buy it without researching that there is a patch in the first place which can be an issue
Fuck Steamfags. They deserve it.

>> No.19651148

>>19651131
Yeah I'm actually kinda sad that I received the fully censored version as a betatest/review copy. How am I supposed to review a butchered game and be positive about it?

>> No.19651165

>>19651148
>t I received the fully censored version as a betatest/review copy
That sucks man.

>> No.19651187
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19651187

If at all I can only praise Bango the TLer for this game a lot. He actually tled the game, then rewrote the content for the honorific setting and then rewrote it again for an all-ages version. Thats so much additional work that he really deserves some props for it.

>> No.19651196

>>19651187
Why would you want to praise him for doing all that pointless shit?

>> No.19651202

>>19651187
Honorific setting doesn't need any rewriting because it's derived from the actual script and not made up shit. It's only logical for it to be the based script if they have more than one.

>> No.19651226

>>19651202
I played it and it's definitely a little more than just adding -san and -chan to words. Some pet-names were rewritten and discussions about why they should address themselves differently and when they accept that they shouldn't be so formal.

>> No.19651236

>>19651196
Well did you see a honorific-setting anywhere beforehand? It's novel idea that just needs some polishing. I noticed it being inconsistent though "Syuji's vs. Syuji-san's" regardless of setting. Just plain oversights with i already pointed out to bango and he fixed them.

>> No.19651250

>>19651226
Nice reading comprehension. Because honorifics version doesn't need rewriting and no-honorifics version does need rewriting, the first version you should do is the honorifics one and then start rewriting with that as the source script.

>> No.19651253

How are people gonna know there's an 18+ patch if we're not allowed to bring it up in forums

>> No.19651257

>>19651250
I see what you mean.

>> No.19651262

>>19651253
I'm pretty sure we can post it anywhere we want. It's probably them that can't.

>> No.19651264

>>19651236
>Well did you see a honorific-setting anywhere beforehand?
It shouldn't exist in the first place. Honorifics should be left in no matter what.
Also Bango is fucking hack, 修二 = Shuuji.

>> No.19651274

>>19651264
wtf I hate bango

>> No.19651301

>>19651274
I love bango

>> No.19651352

>>19650996
>and it discourages them to get into the medium.
Why would I want more dumb casuals that are going to be emptying their wallets the moment someone shits out a machine translation to get into anything?

>> No.19651370

>>19651125
>we have had other companies (including larger companies) asking us how we got through the approval wall.
This should confirm my theory from the last thread why the recent titles from MangaGamer had such a long pre-order date and why we only have 1 pre-order at a time, they seems to have troubles getting their visual novel on steam, just like Sekai Project.

It's pretty much stalling as long as possible with their exclusive MangaGamer only releases.

>> No.19651383

>>19651125
If steam allows 18+ content in the future, or at least laxes up the rules with the new filter system, will you push out a revised script that reverts all the censorship? Though it doesn't really matter so much with a full 18+ patch being available.

>> No.19651424

I heard from a friend on fuwa that hes making a demosaicpatch with an installer where you have options as to how the game should be censored/uncensored like these flashgames with different clothing.
I wonder if you could use this idea for games and include an installer, where the player can choose the degree of censorship themselves. That way you could savely switch the settings if you are 25 live at home in a basement and your parents check by once in a while and disown you as soon they see naked lolis on your screen lol.

Tldr; Add an installer prompt where you can choose the version instead of dumbass patches which may or may not be released.

>> No.19651477

>>19651424
Won't work in some cases as it can bloat the file size up which is heavy on bandwidth for the host.
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/1016414886539100160

>> No.19651502

>>19651477
I see. These issues could very well occur.

>> No.19651526

>>19651477
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/1016443397828067328
>I'm 100% certain the only reason Chrono Clock got mosaics removed was because MG went out of their way to show to everyone they had mosaic free version of Hapymaher, an older game by the same dev.
Fucking Sekai Project

>> No.19651577

>>19651526
Whyever you are necroing this but yeah for good measure. Fuck Sekaiproject.

What even happened to dovac? He's privated for a while now and deleted all his tweets :/

>> No.19651584

>>19651125
This is very important info... Steam blocks VNs for a while now you say? This is beyond ridiculous. Steam really has some issues man.

>> No.19651603

>>19651584
>Steam blocks VNs for a while now you say?
That is not what he said.
Why do you make a separate post for each reply?

>> No.19651623

>>19651603
>however, the game is one of the only vn's to be approved for release on Steam in the past few months,

Sorry I'm new to posting. Lurked for years and only since I'm doing VN Journalism I cared enough to post.

>> No.19651643

>>19651623
>Lurked for years and only since I'm doing VN Journalism I cared enough to post.
lol

>> No.19651658

>>19651623
>VN Journalism
WTF is this?

>> No.19651668

>>19651658
I'm admin of a german topic website that tries to make vns more popular in germany. If that isn't journalism then what is.

>> No.19651669

>>19648374
believe it or not, the original concept of Euphoria was too extreme for one eroge rating board (there are two, and the one they submitted Euphoria to is very anti-guro)
Maggot Baits uses ideas and concepts that were cut and was submitted to the other rating board.

there's an article here: http://operationrainfall.com/2016/07/14/mangagamer-shigeo-hamashima/

>> No.19651686

>>19651668
It sounds like shilling to me.

>> No.19651714

>>19651686
You can call it all you want. I don't consider it shilling if the companies and bad practices are pointed out and criticized as they deserve it.

>> No.19651717

Ignore the namefag. He's an annoying cunt and managed to pretty much ruin the Untranslated VN thread last week. >>/jp/thread/S19572148

>> No.19651753

>>19651370
The titles they have up for Steam apparently haven't starting scripting yet, but MG might be stalling scripting until Steam has approved its games. Titles that may currently be stalled because of this are Hashihime, Steam Prison, Lilycle, and Higurashi. Well, Bokuten too, but that could be still in dev hell for other reasons. There are a variety of titles near completion that were never planned to have a Steam release at all like Suki Suki, Sengoku Rance, and Damekoi, so MG could theorectically stall until Steam or GOG accepts its titles.

>> No.19651889

Didn't Jast release Flower 2 with relative ease on Steam? the couple of days delay don't compare with what the other publishers claim to go through.

>> No.19651968

>>19651889
JAST is special, they even use paypal when no one else can

>> No.19651987
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>>19651968
Yeah. These are sustained competitive advantages which put the JAST and the soon to be JAST Store above all else. Theres still a shitton of flaws though like their advertisement, that they don't have real ways to sort their store and that they advertise themselves with Nukige above all else. Also that you download games there and get pesky rar-archives you have to piece together.

Thankfully they don't use a wordpress-esque storefront like the new mangagamer shop.

>> No.19651991

>>19650871
>>19651074
Getting an advance review copy and then trashing it on 4chan for a relatively non issue because of the available patch strikes me as a bit of a silly thing to do.

>> No.19652006

>>19651991
I'm well aware of that but it kind of shows that we don't do this to get freegames but to point out issues. I'm not trashing the game, the game is absolutely stunning but the practices around it is weak.

I don't agree with the pricing either, but you'll see that in 2 days.

>> No.19652013

>>19651987
I'm assuming you dislike MangaGamer judging by your posts.

>> No.19652020

>>19652013
I dislike none of the publishers unless they fuck up. I consider that fair.

>> No.19652039

>>19652006
Pricing probably won't be a surprise, the steam key on the kickstarter was $40 (or $35 for early backers), so I can't imagine it will be cheaper than that on steam.

>> No.19652051

>>19652039
Correct.

>> No.19652303

Sekai Project imploding confirmed.

https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504

https://twitter.com/JkaplanAW/status/1029096951931842562

>> No.19652316

>>19652303
>Yep, the ENTIRE office is gone. Not sure about remote people, I'll hear back soon I'm sure.
What? Holy shit.

>> No.19652367

>>19652303
Hmm

>> No.19652369

>>19652303
The day of reckoning has come. At last.

>> No.19652372

>>19652303
I wouldn't be surprised if they are converting to a mostly remote model like the majority of VN localization companies have done. Nekopara aside, the sales of most of their recent releases don't justify a "proper" company with a large physical presence, and the physical office with a large in house team had seemed like a remnant of the Steam craze era for a couple years now.

>> No.19652380

>>19652303
Maybe they shouldn't have bought an expensive Maitetsu license and then tried to cash in on 12 dollar game sales.

>> No.19652393

>>19652303
>I wouldn't be surprised if they are converting to a mostly remote model


>https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504
>Anyone hiring?
Doesn't sound like they're being switched to remote jobs.

>> No.19652414

Maybe the issue is lowered sales and Steam not approving barely any titles for release recently so their finances are in a tight spot, so they decided to fire any "unnecessary" employees. That or the man in charge thought their current team sucked and decided to start fresh with competent people.

>> No.19652422

>>19652393
Yeah, Frances could have just as easily worked remotely. Getting rid of everyone like that means those jobs don't exist any more.

Or they're reorganizing drastically, probably to move as much of the operation to China as possible. If they're still in business, dollars to donuts says they will be reincorporated in Taipei or Hong Kong.

>> No.19652436

>>19652414
>That or the man in charge thought their current team sucked and decided to start fresh with competent people.
Would only make sense if Chris himself was competent.

>> No.19652437

>>19652303
THANK GOD FINALLY
I wished so much for SP to die. I'm literally shaking.

>> No.19652469

Maybe they're going full mainstream? Weren't they in talks with Nintendo? Whatever the case, I'd be happy with them fucking off from this industry forever. Seems like the news is too good to be true, though.

>> No.19652500

>>19652393
Too good to be true.

>> No.19652529

>>19652436
Hi, Dovac.

>> No.19652542

>>19652529
I don't get it.

>> No.19652543

>Dovac deleted all his tweets and SekaiProject is getting destroyed
>MangaGamer has shit tier licenses and let a literal raging tard on their panel at Otakon
Are we entering the dark ages?

>> No.19652559

>>19652543
>MangaGamer has shit tier licenses
I'd say they had more good licenses than Sekai.

>> No.19652568

>>19652559
Good joke.

>> No.19652583

>>19652568
Yes, Rance is full of excellent jokes, thanks for noticing.

>> No.19652597

>>19652583
Ugh, it isn't even a vn, but good try.
SP has a wider library of not boring moege.

>> No.19652602

>>19652597
It's on vndb.

>> No.19652606

>>19652602
So what? The Witcher 3 used to be there too.

>> No.19652608

>>19652606
And it got removed. This is still there.

>> No.19652612

>>19652606
Until it was removed for not being a VN.

>> No.19652617

>>19652597
Funbag Fantasy's side story is honestly more entertaining than anything that Sekai has released in the past 2 years.

>> No.19652629

>>19652597
>it isn't even a vn
Because it has gameplay that's actually good? Because the protagonist is an actual character instead of a faceless self-insert? Or because it's just too mainstream for you hip, young zoomers?

>> No.19652630

>>19652617
Not a moege.
>>19652608
>>19652612
You're right my dudes. Rance should be removed too.

>> No.19652632

>>19652630
>Not a moege.
Only you were talking about moege, no one else.

>> No.19652634

>>19652630
>Not a moege.
And That's A Good Thing.

What fantastic moege have Sekai released in recent memory?

>> No.19652635

>>19652630
Feel free to suggest it to the mods and get denied.

>> No.19652641

>>19652634
Wagamama.

>> No.19652649

>>19652641
Had one good route.

>> No.19652652

>>19652641
Fueraba is a million times better.

>> No.19652655

>>19652543
>literal raging tard on their panel at Otakon
what did i miss?

>> No.19652659

>>19652469
Definitely too good to be true, whether they become mainstream or whether they become bankrupt. Becoming mainstream is a bit silly since they just announced 18+ games last month. If they do get bankrupt, the licensing fallout will be glorious, and many companies that worked with Sekai or planned to work with Sekai would avoid the West. I'd imagine some would avoid the West simply because the localization company that benefited the most from the Steam Boom happened to be the one that went bankrupt.

>>19652543
Whether you like Alicesoft games or not, it's hard to deny that even Beat Angel Escalayer is probably more notable than any of Denpasoft's or Sekai's announcements this year. All I remember was Re Lord 2 and some doujin titles. That's ignoring Rance X, which manages to have the highest median in all of EGS.

>> No.19652663

>>19652652
Fureraba is great anon, but I disliked the localization.
Stuff like "holy shit mommy", "bazinga" and "get out of my swamp" turned me off.

>> No.19652673

>>19652659
I'd say 9 -nine- is a pretty notable title.

>> No.19652691

>>19652602
So is Ar tonelico.

>> No.19652698

https://twitter.com/DancingQueen_DQ/status/1029094072168853504
did sekai just die?

>> No.19652704

>>19652698
How hard is it to read the thread?

>> No.19652718

>>19652698
Welcome to the thread. We're discussing penises. Perhaps you'd like to join us?

>> No.19652748

>>19652655
Watch the stream. The programmer guy up on the panel with them was rocking back and forth and acting like a literal autist. When he got asked to list his favorite games he started listing 20+. Everyone thought it was a joke at first but he just kept going. Then when he got cut off he almost went full tard rage.

>> No.19652756

>>19652748
So you're angry that he made a joke about there being so many Sono Hanabira games and him rocking on his chair?

>> No.19652766

Audi from SP said there's still staff and they are still working on games. Nothing officially has been cancelled and everything is still proceeding as normal.

So who knows what's really going on at the moment.

>> No.19652772

>>19652756
He was obviously not joking. I was on the 3rd row, they had to take the mic away from him and he nearly screamed.

>> No.19652794

>>19652772
He probably wasn't joking about them being his favorite games but I did watch the stream and it was obvious that he was making a joke, if you missed it (you being in a fit of rage and all) the people on the panel and the audience laughed.

>> No.19652803

>>19652794
I was in the audience. We all laughed at first because we thought it was a joke. Then he kept going. The guy to his right ended up cutting him off and he looked like he was about to rip the guy's head off.

>> No.19652808

>>19652691
Which has literal VN segments which are a notable part of the game if you had played it.

>> No.19652818

>>19652543
More like the golden age.

>> No.19652830

>>19652808
If AT is on vndb then atelier and falcoms kiseki games should be as well.

>> No.19652837

>>19652808
The cosmosphere segments are only a fraction of the game that is primarily a JRPG and calling it a visual novel because of them is retarded. You may as well argue that any JRPG that presents itself with text and character portraits is a VN.

>> No.19652848

So this is what happens when you try to fuck with Fakku...

>> No.19652854

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/tokyo-chronos-a-new-vr-mystery-visual-novel-game/posts/2262566

>Please, keep giving us money.

>> No.19652856

>>19652803
>The guy to his right ended up cutting him off and he looked like he was about to rip the guy's head off.
Didn't happen.

>> No.19652871

>>19652856
Go watch it yourself.

>> No.19652878

>>19652871
I did.
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ypKdYXoWjRGW
46:05

>> No.19652881

>>19652871
Still, didn't happen.

>> No.19652911

>>19652854
Damn, I should've known nothing nice would happen.

>> No.19652919

>>19652881
>>19652878
>https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ypKdYXoWjRGW
57:10. The 2nd time when they skip over his answer. The angle's not great on the video but I saw his face and he looked like someone had just killed his dog. He was dead serious.

>> No.19652959

>>19652911
There are probably still some serious issues behind the scenes and they obviously aren't going to say they are fucked until they have to. We know they aren't exactly the best managed company or good with their finances after bragging about paying above the market value for some things and dovac himself admitting he has fucked up multiple times, so they might be trying to cut expenses to stop themselves folding.

>> No.19652966

>>19652959
SP is getting rid of their unneeded staff. That's all.
MG did this by firing Arunaru too.

>> No.19652971

>>19652919
>When he got asked to list his favorite games he started listing 20+. Everyone thought it was a joke at first but he just kept going. Then when he got cut off he almost went full tard rage.
Still never happened.

>> No.19652974

>>19652854
Shutting down your physical office in the middle of a kickstarter campaign is actually an impressively dumb move lol.

>> No.19652975

>>19652971
You didn't see his fucking face. Guess MG is lucky that their stream was at that angle.

>> No.19652983

>>19652966
>MG did this by firing Arunaru too.
How much cheaper is it for MG to contract him compared to being a proper employee? Since he is still working on the Alicesoft games afterall.

>> No.19652989

>>19652975
We get it dude, you hate MG.

>> No.19652992

>>19652975
Dude, you just got called out. Stop.

>> No.19652997

>>19652975
Sad

>> No.19653000

How did this happen to a company that's literally printing money with catgirl porn?

>> No.19653018

>>19653000
It was fucking stupid to hire full-time employees when the average translator works for pennies and dimes.

>> No.19653027

>>19653000
They didn't do nekopara extra 18+. It is obvious the lack of loli porn killed the company.

>> No.19653035

If it was revealed that Sekai's licenses were in abeyance or even canceled, I can personally guarantee you that a partial Baldr Sky patch would be released virtually immediately.

>> No.19653037

>>19652974
Seriously, they could've waited a week and the kickstarter would've been over.

>> No.19653041

>>19653035
Sorry, it was mostly their staff for OELVNs that was fired.

>> No.19653044

>>19653000
Their physical presence with a fair number of full time employees was a product of the Steam craze (as was their expensive localization budgets at the time that quickly ran into problems once titles weren't 5 figure sellers). If anything, it is a surprise it lasted this long in that shape when most of the work can be freelance (see MG with just a couple core employees).

>> No.19653052

>>19653041
You don't lay off entire divisions when things are going well.

>> No.19653059

>>19653052
They didn't fire any translators from what I've heard.

>> No.19653064

>>19653000
They were born out of the Steam anime craze and tried to ride that train to gravy town, quality be damned.

Similar to MMOs back in the day or the battle royale trend now, trying to ride a trend thinking it will work forever is foolhardy. That said, SP isn't really dead, they're just in chaos or something.

>> No.19653065

https://sekaiproject.com/2018/08/13/official-statement/

>> No.19653067

>>19653059
Yet.

>> No.19653081

>>19653065
>Canvas Garden, Love’s Sweet Garnish, is almost done with QA and will be ready for release this month, pending Valve approval.

>> No.19653090

>>19652818
Golden Age was 06-11 or there abouts.

>> No.19653094

>>19653081
I will believe that when I see it

>> No.19653105

>>19653065
So basically they're undoing all the wrong decisions Dovac made. Seems good.

>> No.19653109

>>19653065
>Most of the staff that was let go over the course of the year was in marketing, whereas translation, programming, editing and QC are still diligently working on current and future projects. In the coming days, the company will be going through a restructure so we can be more nimble, focused, proactive and more like the company we were when we first started.

Honestly it doesn't make sense for them to keep their full time marketing people around when most of their new releases don't hit 100 concurrent users on Steam, as obviously their marketing team isn't pushing the needle much. Having a bunch of full time employees doing non-localization work would have been reasonable at the height of the Steam craze, but it wouldn't be paying for itself with the current market situation.

>> No.19653115

>>19653105
While I'd like to believe that, they've been saying shit like this for the past couple of years and nothing's chagned

>> No.19653122

>>19653115
They've been saying it for a lot longer than that.

>> No.19653161

>>19653105
Remember when they made the PR move to remove Dovac as the CEO and tried to pretend he is being held at arm's length and they would change? And then it turned out he was still making big decisions and was project manager on multiple projects that he fucked up on? Going to take more than PR spiel to make me think things are going to improve.

>> No.19653180

>>19653161
He's deleting his apology on that too.

So I archived it.

https://imgur.com/a/GaBQxSg

>> No.19653209

>>19653180
Dovac is one of the people NOT losing their job.

He's one of the people firing all the others.

>> No.19653271

>>19653209
keep on never buying anything sekai project, and maybe they will be kill for real one day.

>> No.19653296

Kicking their marketing staff when the only bad marketing dude still runs loose. Sekaiproject does really a bunch of bad decisions alltogether.

Frances was such a good Brand Manager. DenpaSoft can market itself nicely and they belong to Sekai. So why does Sekai keep fucking up?

>In the coming days, the company will be going through a restructure so we can be more nimble, focused, proactive and more like the company we were when we first started.

I wonder what this is supposed to mean...going back to not releasing on time?

>> No.19653316

>>19653296
Come to think of it, I swear that they were worse off when they first started because of Dovac antics. I vaguely remember people not hating them as much while Clannad and Grisaia were in KS, but the key word is as much.

>> No.19653319

>>19653296
>I wonder what this is supposed to mean
Nothing. It means fucking nothing.

>> No.19653327

>>19653316
Because that was a long time ago back then they hadn't actually released anything and talked a big game about all the stuff they were going to accomplish in the VN industry and shit

>> No.19653340

>>19653109
>more like the company we were when we first started
So also garbage

>> No.19653387

>>19653296
What did she accomplish as brand manager? Did their sales increase? Did public perception of them improve? If not then she didn't succeed at her job. But given Sekai's reputation in the VN industry I doubt most people could succeed. They burn through PR people so quickly.

>> No.19653399

>>19653387
Was she the one that Dovac posted a skeevy neckbeard thing about how hard she made him?

>> No.19653405

>>19653399
Then she's in the perfect position to sue him for sexual harrassment.

>> No.19653410

Let's go through the list of games they gave status info on. I see no mention of Baldr Sky or KoiKuma. :(

>> No.19653412

>>19653399
What the fuck

>> No.19653419

>>19653387
It is hard to improve your public perception when the whole internals keep fucking up :/>>19653399
the fuck? Post that.

>> No.19653420

>>19653410
Maybe because we already know the status of those two titles.

>> No.19653434

>>19653420
Okay then TenshinRanman and Dracu-Riot

>> No.19653454

>>19653434
Both getting Doddler'd. Senren Banka is a title I'd like to know the progress of.

>> No.19653458

>>19653434
Wasn't the list mostly for their kickstarter titles in order to assure backers not to freak out?

>> No.19653476

>>19653412
>>19653405
>>19653419
It was yet another thing that made him shut down his twitter. I didn't grab a screencap though, maybe someone can dig it up from a link.
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/862400923913510912
>"thighhighs, sukumizu, and red backpack. Wait that's just my fetishes....."

That was a response to one of his coworkers posting a photo of her in cosplay.

>> No.19653479

>>19653458
If thats true then their backlog is insane.

>> No.19653555
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>>19650996
>I'll probably be made fun of for speaking my mind on this,
>deep breath Maybe I shouldn't have posted this in this thread

>> No.19653580

>>19652543
>>Dovac deleted all his tweets
How many times is that now? 3?

>> No.19653612

>>19653580
I can name at least three off the top of my head, and I'm pretty sure there are at least 2-3 more.

When he tweeted how much he hates the VN industry.

When he threw a tantrum over Leyline's shitty release.

This most recent one from trainge's shitty release.

>> No.19653616

>>19653580
I think it's more like 5.

>> No.19653634

>>19651669
That was a great read.

>> No.19653652

>Lilycle Rainbow Stage - 100% translated and edited
Do companies have to pay a seiyuu fee? If so I imagine MangaGamer had to pay quite a lot for this.

>> No.19653659

>>19653652
>Do companies have to pay a seiyuu fee?
Typically, yes. In the case of something like Koihime Musou with a huge female cast they had to sell 2,000 copies to break even with voices.

>> No.19653661

We need a Virgin Chris vs Chad Jacob image macro. It would be entirely accurate since Chris is a wizard.

>> No.19653669

>>19653661
Fakku is no better than those fucks don't get carried away.

>> No.19653711

>>19653652
Isn't the only relevant seiyuu Kotori's?

>> No.19653763

>>19653711
She is probably the most high profile seiyuu in it, but the others are very notable too.

>> No.19653814

>>19653652
If the sales resemble Remembering How We Met or God forbid, Kindred Spirits, I wouldn't worry about it.

The main reason why MG would go for such an expensive title would be because there aren't a whole lot of yuri VNs to choose from.

>> No.19653816

>>19653711
>>19653763
Maaya Uchida is a much more popular seiyuu than Aya Uchida..

>> No.19653913

>>19653816
Nice name order.

>> No.19654120

>>19652629
>Because the protagonist is an actual character instead of a faceless self-insert?
Hey I like Rance but walking gag isn't something I would call "actual character'.

>> No.19654152

>>19654120
I think you misunderstood his post.

>> No.19655428

SP is just cutting unnecessary expenses. They might slow down a bit but they won't die (unfortunately). This just means that they'll be able to get away with stupid shit and bad/zero QA more because their profit margin will be easier to hit now.

>> No.19655471

>>19655428
To be fair, SP already gets away with zero QA. For the most part anyways. In that aspect, nothing will change.

>> No.19655538

Do I need to be worried they forgot to update status for one of their indiegogo campaigns they haven't delivered on yet?

If only Sekai could hire some PR staff to ensure me that they aren't actually forgetting some campaigns they've kickscammed.

>> No.19655631

Before the thread dies, any news on the Maitetsu 'Perfect' patch mentioned last thread?

>> No.19655837

>>19655631
IIRC the namefag was on it.
I also went and asked on fuwa.

>> No.19655864
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>>19653059
That's because they never had any to begin with!

>> No.19655869

>>19655837
>>19655631
https://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/20789-maitetsu-18-demosaic-patch-wip/?page=10

Apparently the current Heliosaurus Restoration Patch is compatible with the fixed Fakku version so there's no need to do anything.

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19655871

>>19652303
Only a matter of time.

>> No.19655905
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>>19652303
No no no.
It hasn't even started yet.
Their Tokyo Chronos Kikestarter is about to fail.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/tokyo-chronos-a-new-vr-mystery-visual-novel-game

6 days to go and is still 15k from its goal.
Can't wait for the true implosion to begin next week.

>> No.19655923

>>19655905
It'll receive money to just barely reach the goal. Again.

>> No.19656285
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>>19655869
Yeah this one is it. We worked on one, but helio updated his so ours become obsolete. HoplessHiro is working on an demosaic patch with installer where you can setup several types of censoring (band-aids/towels/steam etc.)

When he's done you can toggle it on and off which is a novel idea.

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>>19655905
>>19655923
Welp you may be right.
When I posted it, it was at 59.800, now's at 61k. That's about 1k in just 3-4 hours. At that rate, it'll be funded within 3 days.
Just where the fuck are these fools coming from?

>> No.19656875

Wait, did SP finally confirm that there won't be a +18 Baldr Sky release?

>> No.19656881

>>19656853
VR is booming lately.

>> No.19656895 [DELETED] 

>>19656875
No, but the lack of news on it is almost a confirmation in itself. I'm sure if they could Sekai would be very eager to announce it.

>> No.19656904

>>19656875
No, but the lack of news on it is almost a confirmation in itself. I'm sure if it was actually happening Sekai would be very eager to announce it.

>> No.19657546

>>19656853
That's pretty common for Kickstarters to make any leftover money at the end. Happened Dies Irae and Sakura Sakura

>> No.19657816

>>19655905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cel1CltKuRY
Game looks pretty lazy. The other characters' eyes don't tract the player, and I would expect the models to move when transitioning to their next phrase instead of a line effect.

>> No.19658438

>>19656853
China.

>> No.19658527
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19658527

Sorry to break tradition, but these news are just too spicy to let the thread die midweek. So here's another thread:
>>19658512

>> No.19658533

>>19656853
I mean... when only 13 backers are giving like 15k...yeah doesn't take that many backers I guess

>> No.19658548

>>19658527
What is the point of this thread? There is literally nothing left to discuss.

>> No.19658699

>>19658548
/vn/ crossboarders can't live without their generals

>> No.19658901

>>19658548
Looks like somebody is mad

>> No.19658919

>>19658901
Generals are cancer. Sorry for wanting to at least keep a little bit of quality within these threads.

>> No.19658936

>>19658901
is it you?

>> No.19658991

>>19658527
>also some VNTS discussion
Works for me, I want to discuss the newrin release.

>> No.19659013

>>19658919
Do you really think these aren't generals just because they occur at a regular interval instead of whenever the last one hits the bump limit?

>> No.19659029

>>19659013
Are threads for ongoing anime on /a/ generals too?

>> No.19659036

>>19659029
I don't go to /a/, so I don't know what those look like. They probably are though.

>> No.19659083

>>19656285
Is the guy a genius? I usually have to search high and low for a bandaid picture in this world. The fetish that god forgot.

Though sadly this just adds more excuses to wait with a purchase. If only Sekai had done all of this stuff from day 1.

>> No.19659320

>>19658527
Good idea SP and VNTS discussion.

>> No.19659994

>>19659029
Are these threads 24/7 or are they once a week? There is a big difference.

>> No.19660348

https://pantypress.com/

>> No.19660423

>>19660348
With them also being a LN developer, creating an R18 brand for R18 patches makes sense.

>> No.19660521

>>19660348
Not relateable to SolPress ever (*´∀`*)

>> No.19660541

>>19660521
Mind typing that again in English?

>> No.19660571

>>19660541
SolPress complained that they don't want to reach out to JAST or other places because they fear that doors are going to close on them if they rely on 18+ outlets.

And I'm really asking myself what the difference is when they just make their own patch for ero.content. Making a steam exclusive release is just a mistake nowadays.

>> No.19660597

>>19660571
You really like to blow off air, don't you?
Yeah we get it, we'll just get the patch and play it.

>> No.19660624

>>19660597
https://twitter.com/Bango_the_Go/status/1029456073944702978

perfect. Even the translator tells you to.

>> No.19660655

>>19660571
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/solpress/newton-and-the-apple-tree-a-visual-novel-by-laplac/posts/2217114
>As we’ve stated before, we’re also working on distributing outside of Steam, but that is going to take some time.

>> No.19660729

>>19660655
Could this not mean physical copies?

>> No.19661037

>>19660571
As sad as it is, I think Steam in most cases wait on the new filter for all games that will have patches on their official sites. Meanwhile they don't care if they are somewhere else, because censorship never made sense.

>> No.19661147
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19661147

I guess someone doesn't like criticism.

>> No.19661166

>>19661147
Why do you think this is your blog?

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>>19660571
We have never said that. Sol Press has always stated that we're looking into distribution partners outside of Steam.

As I explained on your own Discord server yesterday, this is a process, and we have to consider contractual obligations for all different kinds of partners when adding our library to their platform.

>> No.19661243

>>19661185
Does Newton's translation use Imperial or Metric?

>> No.19661261

>>19661243
It switches randomly depending on which editor or qa member was working on it at the time

metric

>> No.19661271

>>19661261
Based

>> No.19661286

>>19661261
Huh, actually a little surprised about that. Nice.

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