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His art is better in the PC-98 games because he used a lot more tracing back then.

Mystic Square is my favorite game in the series. Hrtp had amazing atmosphere (Sariel especially. I loved the characters/creatures in it). PoDD was fun and Yumemi/Chiyuri were great (come back pls ;_;(also strawberry crisis is godly)). LLS can go fuck itself for forcing me to 1cc that shit. Gengetsu/Mugestsu were worth it tho. SoEW was trash outside of Mima.

What's the best PC-98 song and why is it Alice in Wonderland?

>>19594294
He shifted technique drastically for windows. PC-98 portraits and sprites were made pixel by pixel. Now the portraits are clearly done by freehand. The sprites I have no idea, he either abuses blur tools way too much or downscales normal art to create them now.
>>19595288
Too hard to choose, maybe Sailor of Time or End of Daylight

>>19595288
The best PC-98 song is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMlFCwOjIMQ

I personally like LLS and Mystic Square. Faint Dream ~ Inanimate Dream still remains one of my favorite boss tracks and also playable Mima in MS. I don't care for HrtP even though it was my first ever Touhou game, SoEW can go fuck itself (The only good parts of it are the music and Marisa and Mima, though I would be interested to see the other characters again), and PoDD I just care for the music cause I'm not too huge of a fan of the Phantasmorgia games but I like the cast.

>>19594294
PC-98 character art is good.
PC-98 music is good in it's own way.

The rest about them is bad, and I'm glad they are no longer canon.

>>19596339
Thank you for ignoring ZUN's words. One penny has been deposited into your retarded shitposter secondary account. We hope to see more kuso posts from you in the future. Thank you and post again ;).

>>19594294
>1920x1080

>>19596927
Thats going to be my wallpaper now

>>19594294
PC-98 was the peak of ZUN composition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpQr-2OC-is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDgUA5kh8H0

>>19595288
I personally like LLS better partially BECAUSE it forced me to 1cc it. Getting to stage 6 in that game and hearing dream land for the first time is such a satisfying feeling.

I don't really like/play MS because stage 4 can go fuck itself. Blueish-white bullets on a blue/white background, what was ZUN thinking?

>>19596785
>I generally have no comment regarding
the PC-98 games. Please ignore them just as one can ignore derivative works. :-)
Yeah, thanks for ignoring ZUN's words.

>>19597242
why is LLS's music so good?

>>19597485
You cannot use outdated sources when multiple newer comments exist. Thank you for being a complete retard. :)

>>19598992
Because that's how it was made.

So in the end, are theses games fucking canon or not ?

>>19603432
They can be if you want them to be.

>>19603432
His most recent comment said that it's canon unless it is contradicted by Windows, which takes priority over PC-98. Also, it should be obvious since the same characters that got carried over from the PC-98 era reference it in their Windows introduction games.

>>19603432
My uncle works at ZUN and he said yes.

>>19603432
My dad works at Nintendo, and Mr. Shanghai Alice told them that PC98 was canon.

I played LLS for the first time lately, the part where Maiden's Capriccio kicks in feels so nice.

>>19603432
Given that Mima is mentioned offhand in a CoLA as a spirit that used to haunt Reimu's shrine, and both Yuuka and Alice mention fighting with Reimu/Marisa in the past when they first appear, it's safe to say they are to some extent unless something in them is directly contradicted. Especially now with Makai, Hell, and the Dream World all regaining relevance.

mima for touhou 17 please

>>19595984 more or less summed up what I think of the games in far fewer words, but I did this writeup because why the hell not. Overall, LLS and MS are two of my favorites in the series, and while I don't like playing the other 3, they're memorable for other reasons.

HRtP: My least favorite game in the series to play, but I really like the atmosphere and music. Although the characters aren't interesting, I find them memorable for having designs foreign to the rest of the series.
SoEW: It's not very fun, but at least it has a pretty good OST. The stage themes are keepers and honestly some of the most underrated songs in the series, but boss themes suck. Except Marisa's, that's pretty cool. Like HRtP, it has a great atmosphere.
PoDD: I'll say outright that I don't like the Phantasmagorias, but this cast and soundtrack are some of my favorites in the series. So many amazing songs here, like Vanishing Dream, Sailor of Time, and who can forget Strawberry Crisis?
LLS: Probably my personal favorite game in the series, I often flipflop between this and IN. Easy as piss, but relaxing to play and sporting a great soundtrack. I also really like the cast.
MS: ZUN went all out here. Second favorite soundtrack in the series, fun and memorable characters, and presentation that wouldn't be topped until MoF or maybe PoFV. I do think it has some of the better gameplay in the series, but it's definitely rougher than LLS; Stage 4 and Yumeko are good examples.

>>19594294
I'd say PC-98 is easier, I'm terrible at micrododging. I love the color pallette as well. It creates a feeling of surrealism, which is perfect for Gensokyo's dream motif.

>>19595288
Did you mean: Alice Maestra

>>19597125
I wouldn't call it the peak, but there was a definite drop in quality with EoSD. It wasn't until MoF where he made a soundtrack I liked more than my favorite PC98 soundtracks, and since then it's been hit or miss. UFO, TD, and LoLK were great, HSiFS was pretty good, and I don't like SA or DDC that much.

>>19594294
I love the PC-98 music. The Mystic Square OST is pretty much the first thing I think of when Touhou music comes to mind, although that's because MS is the Touhou game I've played the most of by a long shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VijW6aeKON0
in particular, this is the "official" Touhou song as far as I'm concerned

also, the first stage of LLS has been stuck in my head for years despite me not having played the game in probably a year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DT5-G2onn8
should probably go back to it

>The PC-98 games have way less bullets due to hardware restraints, but come flying at you at lightning speeds. I’m not sure which is more difficult to deal with.
see, I love this
I can't do slowly moving densely packed micrododging shit for the life of me, but a healthy amount of of faster bullets has always been right up my alley.

>>19595984
never played PoDD seriously, as much as I like that game's OST
I've heard that it's supposed to be actual trash if you do take it any seriously.

also good christ, HrtP makes me want to kick someone every time I play it
it doesn't help that the first stage theme is actually awful, but that's in no way a major reason why I don't like the game

>>19597440
oh man
it's not the worst
but it's still fucking awful

the immediately preceding stage decides to go with red and white bullets on red and white too
really, ZUN wasn't too good with not fucking with your eyes in MS

its musical art is top stuff