/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I wish I could do clean lineart, but I have shaky hands like no other. Keep up the good work bro.

youmu and the maid

Nice line weight, bro.

Nice outlines, bro.

Nice style, bro.

Nice attention whoring, bro.

>>1949412
Use Paint Tool Sai.... it has a feature that smoothes out your line by averaging it. I'm using it to counteract this weird jittering issue my tablet has thanks to interference in the area.

>>1949527
Nice sage bro.

Anyway keep going drawfag, always glad to see you around.

>>1949529
Photoshop can sort of do it too with the cutout filter.

>>1949521
You broke Youmu's leg or pelvis.

>>1949529
Name of tool now

>>1949529
I had to go with rough outlines
Quick sad Chen for not being able to do any better.

Fuck Sai... I used the cracked version from rs and can't save no matter what I've messed with. I might have to buy it now. Fuck.

>>1949521
>>1949403
good good

>>1949625
I've never had problems with SAI

>>1949613
Poor chen

>>1949609
Seconded

Why do we need progress reports?

Jesus, just finish it. Unless it's a large project, or unless you're looking for criticism, it's just a waste of time to post progress pictures.

>>1949798
That's what attention whores do

>>1949798
>badpat

>>1949798

Awesomepat.jpg

>>1949884
It's　actually　scary

>>1949529
Yeah but how?

>>1949529
WHAT IS THE TOOL DAMNIT

>>1949953
There is not tool, it's automatic you loud man.

>>1949974
I don't see it does that

>>1949982
Very well, what settings are you using?

>>1949953

No, anon, you are the tool.

>>1949989
Default brush, pressure size checked.

>>1949989
No, just tell us yours

This is getting ridiculous

chentlepersons

>>1950132
...

>>1949953 WHAT IS TOOL
On the bar with zoom, canvas rotate/flip theres a "stabilizer" value. Changing that will affect how much it tries to smooth your lines.

>>1949798 unless you're looking for criticism
seems like you managed to figure it out!

>>1950172
Post screenshot, I don't see it so I'm fearing some version differences

>>1950172
And you have setup on what value?

>>1950172
It lags as fuck but it works

So I'm doing something /jp/ related, but I think I screwed up the legs. Or the upper torso shouldn't be in that position or something.

I see the short arm length/small hand though. Anyone an Anatomy_Expert?

>>1950183

That is what /ic/ is for, y'know.

Of course, they'll rip you apart simply for drawing in a japanese animation style, so I would suggest you leave you ego at the door if you go there.

>>1950299
You shouldn't draw if you name yourself ZUN

>>1950299
The body is fine, mostly. Neck's a bit thin; but, it's that crossed right leg that's way off. Try dubbing the hip joint's general position into the picture and re-check perspective on the thigh.

>>1950299

I'm not an anatomy expert, but that girl's right leg looks like someone cut it off and placed on top of her left leg.

>>1950299
HUEG butt, bro
and thighs too.
Big is ok, but this is out of proportion.

>>1950299
You have perspective problem with that left (our left) leg. It should go up and over that right (our right) leg instead, its like some one out pulled out the left leg and glued them up above her pelvis. My mspaint attempt to fix it since I'm bored.

>>1950349
Also fix that hand.

>>1950335
>>Try dubbing the hip joint's general position into the picture and re-check perspective on the thigh.

Thank you bro! Now it makes sense.

>>1950321
Maybe. But I do read /ic/ too, and so far I've learned a lot more stuff from /jp/ drawing threads.

>>1950349
Thanks Anon, that works. I hope I can eventually be as good as you.

I don't think this is my thing

>>1950702
It doesn't look bad. Although it did feel like it had more personality when it was pixely.

>>1950418
Let's see... the hand does need some fixing and overall composition seems a bit off. I dunno if this tip will help but I nowadays start drawing the background so I can plan where and how character placement will end up...

Be patient... You will get good eventually. There is no substitute for practice. Keep up the good work... same goes for the OP.

Image Somewhat Unrelated

>>1950418
>I've learned a lot more stuff from /jp/ drawing threads.

I sure don't believe this

>>1950822

fuck off you piece of shit cancer asshole motherfucker

reporting like the motherfucking fist of the north star

Look what you did drawfag OP, you invited the real cancer.

Half done.
Are youmu's legs better now?
And how come no one complained about Shinki's lazy eye.

>>1950832
wat?

>>1950836
Nobody actually criticizes drawfags in here, we're just glad to have them

>>1950836
Looks cool bro.

>>1950702
Use a thicker brush, you'll see the difference.

>>1950823

/ic/ is mostly a den of art college dropouts getting their trolling on. But there are sometimes a few good pieces of info.

>>1950822

How did you get so good at backgrounds, bro? And thanks for the tips! It took me years to get "good" at music stuff, so I can only imagine how long it takes to get good at art.

>>1950918
I read /ic/ sometimes too, but I'm generally disappointed in what they have to say. Useful information is rare.

>>1950918

He is not good. Stop being a retard. He got kicked out of other boards, don't let him take root here.

>>1950946
Are you talking about ZUN? he seems nice

>>1950832
What is this I don't even

The attention whoring is bad enough, but at least he's not a tripfag.

>>1950299
Not necessarily an expert but here's some things I have a problem with. I'm still not too good with legs but here you go.

>>1950988
That's the only reason he's got a bit of respect, won't last long if he keeps with the attention whoring

>>1949403

GUTSMAN!

>>1950999
Why else do artfags artfag?

You know after trying to draw a Touhou for the first time, I finally realized why all the characters have long dresses and hidden arms. I know many of you realized this before, but it really snaps into place when you do it yourself.

>>1951052
This is just a joke in bad taste, right?

>>1951053
Indeed

wow, /jp/ has some of the worst trolls of any board I've been to

>>1951092
Son, I don't think you know what a troll is

>>1951092
Trolls? where?

So what this thread about?

>>1951084
So why do you think artfags actually artfag?

>>1951208
I'm not saying that there are no artfags who create art for attention, but some just enjoy making others smile (or rage). Some do it for their own amusement, or to fulfill a need to draw.

why dont you post this in /ic/ they will love you long time. bro

>>1951231
How about you be less of a fag?

>>1951210
I'm not particularly opposed to drawfag threads on /jp/ myself. But the "chain of threads" with the "oh hi it's me again" text (in this case, 'Progress report~') essentially amounts to attention whoring, which I for one do not tolerate. Just create a drawfag thread if you really want to.

Also: not being a tripfag is a major plus, keep that up. Polite sage

>>1951309
I'm not OP, if you were thinking that. I was just objecting to the accusation that all people who post art here do it for attention.

Mostly doing this coz drawing Yuyuko by herself in a void is too lonely. She needs some touhou friends, but I don't just wanna put them in randomly and thought this place would be better than /ic/ for Touhou experts. Not worried about the quality of my art as much as Touhou accuracy. Posting wips so people can catch stuff before I'm done with the pic.

Now, what to do about a bg...

>>1951485
Awesome.

>>1951485
How about shutting the hell up and just do it?

>>1951651

>>1951763
what?

come on, does this really need a progress thread? just finish it and post it, why make a big deal out of it? its not a big masterpiece, its a simple bit of 'art' that I wouldn't save into my touhou folder.

>>1951803
OK I guess its done then

>>1951803
I see :(

>>1951803
someones showing their tsuntsun

>>1952689
I-it's not like I was going to save it anyways!

>>1952986
Ha!

since my parody thread was deleted so quickly, i'll just leave this here and ask: why? what makes this thread any more legitimate than the one i made? because this artist doesn't suck? because i was "trolling" by poking fun at this guy's manners and style of posting?

anyway, i'm too lazy to finish the bg, just like someone else.

>>1953216
OP here. Aw I would have liked to have seen that.

Also your art isnt bad, just obviously lazy. If you tried drawing in real bodies it would be respectable.

Trolling.

>>1953216
Why does Chen have two cocks?

>>1953293

Yo dawg, I heard you like catcock so we put a two cocks on your Chen so you can fuck while you fuck!

>>1953300
yo cat we heard you like shiki's so we but a satsujinki in yo castle so you can dream while you dream

>>1953216
What thread?

>>1953293
for ran's pleasure. and how come no one has complained about how thin yuyuko is?

>>1953343
Diet?

>>1953293

>>1953343
Yuyuko has the type of metabolism where she doesn't get fat no matter how much she eats.

>>1953413
Looking cute.

...But I'm worried about what's going on beyond the bottom edge of that image.

>>1953422
You don't want to know

>>1953413
Oh u Chen

>>1953216
Make that thread again

What's this about? Some sort of comic or something that people are making?

>>1953422
She's playing around with her tailcocks, obviously.

>>1953487
Some drawfag attention whoring

>>1953487
Hey wait, that's not a bad idea

>>1953481
nah, not worth it. i can repost the gist of it here though.

>"hey /jp/! i'm drawing a picture!
>WIP~"

>>1953567
[5 minutes later]

>Progress report~
>Added Youmu for no reason.

Shortly thereafter, thread was deleted. I was planning to follow up with a "picture is half done, why didn't anyone complain yuyu is too thin, etc." report.

>>1953517
No wait, it is

>>1953591
Hmmm, that was indeed weird

>>1953567
>>1953591
This thread was better than this

....Good effort though!

>>1953790
what?

>>1953591
Well do another drawing

FFFFFFFFF, would not draw again.

>>1951485
Cool vector-style drawing, bro. I like your values.

>>1954184
The same trick won't affect us anon

>>1949625
Oh lord, I thought I was the only one with that problem.
Stupid Sai, I wish to love it, but it hates me in return.

>>1954332
I don't see why that would happen

>>1954184
Not this again

>>1951485
Where are her wings?!

>>1954447
Neither do I.
But whenever I try to save it goes
"Saving canvas failed"
Much rage follows.

>>1954718
I'll do some research then

>>1954725
The problem is pretty rare and only seems to happen to crack users so I haven't had much luck seeking out a solution.
But if you figure out something you'll have my thanks.

>>1954778
Why don't you try using the trial?

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2p1css

I've heard of some people being able to save with this one.

in the past when i tried using some cracked version of sai paint, i also was never able to save. wong (of AD fame) once mentioned a bizarre method involving joy2key in order to get saves to work for him. so is there anyone running a cracked version with no problems saving, and if so, where did you find it?

>>1954799
Well, I've already used up the trial.
That might be part of the problem even.

>>1954809
I'll give this a shot real quick.

>>1954853
Clear the registry

>>1954809
I've no idea what's different, but it's saving fine so far.
Normally at this point it would start giving me that error message.

>>1954877
I've wiped all mention of Sai from my computer including registry entries.
It probably refers to a file or entry without the phrase Sai in it to check.

>>1954853
this anon has sadly purchased paint tool sai.

best thing i ever bought myself

Sai stores info in any image file it edits and puts in some kind of info that tells the program if its been longer than 30 days or w/e the trial period is. so if you have the trial, clear registry and reinstall, but then open one of those files you made using it previously, it will then lock itself unless you have a license

so if you are too inept to find a working crack like me, just buy it, its not >$9000 like photoshop

>>1954906
I'll probably buy Sai once my funds go through.
I installed the trial a while ago but was too busy to try it out properly. By the time I had time to do so my time was up.

Anyway, seems like this copy of Sai works without a hitch, many thanks Anonymous.

>>1954906
i am planning to buy it. though i'm more of a traditional artist and complete rookie to digital art/painting, so even if it's only about $60 may not get that value out of it.

>>1954906
I wouldn't waste money on programs, bro

>>1954962
I recently changed to digital, it's worth it I tell you

*bump*

What's everybody's opinion on GIMP? I heard it's similar to Photoshop but free, shouldn't that suffice?

>>1954988
I've had better results with SAI

Fucking Sai. I downloaded the thing of RS, and when I do exactly what it says in the .txt, it gives me a shitty error, something with crc or whatever. The trail works, and I like how it does the lines and what not, can't get this in photoshop yet it seems. I got my tablet today, so I'm still discovering shit and what not.

Tips and shit would be handy, and a way to get that crack going too.

>>1954988
Photoshop isn't meant for drawing, it's meant for editing and manipulation.
And if GIMP is compared to Photoshop it probably has the same issues.

SAI and Open Canvas on the other hand are made for the sole purpose of drawing. This is why they're so popular for drawing.
That and they're lightweight and have low requirements.

>>1954988
Gimp is not similar to Photoshop. There is a reason why Photoshop cost $700.

>>1955080
o rly?

>>1955084 here.
What would one recommend, Sai, or Open Canvas?

>>1955097
SAI

>>1955080
Yeah using a program meant for drawing makes a big difference. I used to draw like this.

But now I draw like this >>1949403

>>1955084
>>1955097
The one in /rs/ is prepatched even though the Readme tells you otherwise.
So skip the patching part of the instructions.

Should grab the one linked here too just in case. I can vouch for it working after much pain from /rs/ versions.

I much prefer SAI over Open Canvas.
Although Open Canvas 1 is still free I believe and has a feature that records your drawing for later playback.

You should try both yourself really.

>>1955120
>>1955080
Hm, I should reconsider what I should draw with.

>>1955120
What the hell is this?

>>1955120
I remember the progress of this being posted in /ic/. They hated the lineart but changed their minds with the rendering. Damn that was a while ago.

>>1955135
How skilled are you?

>>1955161
Yeah. The game even came out since then... but it still hasn't arrived in the mail. Goddamnit Canada post.

>>1955166
I'd say moderate. I've been trying to focus more on anatomy so I hardly get a chance to try lineart. I don't have any examples on me at the moment but I think I can do a quick sketch.

>>1955129
Well, this one works, no trail shit anywhere. However, I can't make lines exactly as how it is in the others. This shit is fucked up, and in Japanese for some parts. Goddamn maybe I'm stupid but this is annoying.

>>1955194
disregard that, I suck cocks

>>1955197
I would like to see

Say, why is this thread still alive?, not that I don't like drawfag threads.

>>1955304
Because on this board not every thread only has 30 posts in them, and it's not a fast moving board.

>>1955331
Yeah, but OP is long gone

To the drawfag drawing the Cirnos and Chens:
how long until we get some Cirno/Chen action?

>>1955361
Didn't know you want that

>>1955392
just a thought

>>1955347
What do you mean, I'm still here.

>>1955433
Just as planned

>>1955455
What the hell, this isn't autosaging yet?

>>1955433
Drawing anything in particular?, I'm out of quick ideas

>>1955392
Do want.

>>1955457
No, and when it is, we'll make another.
These threads are indeed way more helpful than /ic/.

I don't mind having one draw thread constantly up. Good place to randomly dump some original materials. People can probably request drawings too.

>>1955483
Exactly

>>1955459
Heard of the "Get Down" meme?
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=h3quTc2-GyM

I'm doing one based on this doujin where Yuyuko gets cut in half and her upper body flying through the air is doing the crazy dance.

...Well it's okay coz she's a ghost, right?

while i am not opposed to draw threads (indeed, if i had time i'd try to contribute to them), i wish the OP wouldn't post so many progress reports.

>>1955532
Interesting

>>1955532
>ca

>>1955532
/jp/, your sense of humor physically pains me.

>>1955532
Get Down is the cancer that's killing Nico Nico Douga. Making one would be equivalent to making a Rickroll on Youtube.

>>1955551

don't worry, it's the OP

Huh. Thanks everyone, for making SAI sound appealing enough to make me go download it. I'd always meant to try it, but I didn't know whether it would be any different from OC. It is an enjoyable program.

>>1955468
Tell me about it.
I've been there on several occasions to try and figure out why my version of SAI couldn't save with no success.

I post here about it offhand and someone links a working copy within a few minutes.

>>1954682
>>1954809

People need to realize that Shinki's wings are larger than herself, not standard issue.

I take this as personal offense.

>>1955613
They are indeed huge. And awesome.

I'm sorry to intrude but /ic/ is full of faggots and this doesn't seem too bad.

When drawing shit, I can sketch pretty well, using stickframe and what not, even colouring isn't that bad, although I still need to learn a lot about colours, but when it comes to smooth lines, with line weight and what not, I can't do this shit. I can't make smooth lines. Maybe if they're rather shot, but if it's longer, say, a forearm, I can't do this. Do I suck or is there hope left for me yet? Also, this is on a tablet, mind you.

>>1955630
I'm guessing you are using brushes with smoothing.
If so, I do remember some practice some anon posted a while ago, for practicing smooth strokes. It was basically taking some image with outlines, lowering it's opacity and on a different layer, trying to copy said outlines the best you could, aiming for a single stroke for each piece of outline, you'll fail a lot, but Ctrl+Z the fuck out of every bad stoke until you get it right. It worked for me, as in it becomes more natural.

>>1955630
SAI features stabilizers and a vector brush.
The stabilizer is located on the top bar and defaults at 3. It smooths out your drawing at the expense of reaction speed.

If you make a vector layer then the brush will leave points that you can move around and adjust after you draw the lines. It also has a curve tool.

>>1955674
I use S-6, yeah

Are smooth lines generally that important for a drawing? I ask this because a lot of the fanarts I've seen don't exactly have vector smooth lines. Will the difference be drastic if I switched over to using SAI instead of using photoshop to draw outlines? I generally paint underneath and lower the opacity of the outline so the sketchiness doesn't bother me as much.

>>1955714
SAI isn't only smooth lines, there's lots of options.

>>1955714
Depending on the coloring style, I prefer a sketchy lining myself. It seems less machine-like and feels more like you actually drew it.

Course, some styles just work better with smooth clean lines.

Bottom line is, if it looks good, who cares.

If only there was a board on 4chan where you could show off your art.

OH WAIT >>>/ic/

Begone attention whores.

>>1955724
Shut up faggot

>>1955667
>>1955674
Thanks, I just started using SAI, and it's not too bad, I also got oC 1.1, which I will try out tomorrow, since it's 8 AM, so a nice time to go to bed soon.
>>1955685
Yeah, I didn't really notice any difference until I used the S- ones.

>>1955724
If you can find one thread there as useful and helpful as this one is then I'll consider it.

>>1955714
Yes, it's important. There's a difference between a rough, sketchy style, and just plain messiness that's the result of a person not knowing what they're actually planning to do.

>>1955685
What the fuck, man.

>>1955806
That's what manly men use

>>1955732
That's because they hate Sai. It's too weeaboo for them.

>>1955721
Holy fill tool, Batman.

>>1953216
Fuck. I was trying to parody your parody, but it ended up becoming somewhat cute!

>>1955287
Doubt you're still around but this is what I got. Initially it was just going to be a sketch but I got so carried away I lost track of time. I got lazy with the frog and I don't know how to make a more realistic looking block of ice.

>>1956243
The iceblock is just too neon. Make it less saturated and it should look a bit better.

>>1956129
There, that should do it.

I call it "Two carefree masters float in the sky while their underlings frolic on the ground below."

Is the SAI less hypercomplicated than Photoshop?

Asking because I had a good time playing around with Deluxe Paint when I was a kid, but nowadays when I try to open my cracked CS3 it hits me in the face with seven thousand options and I don't really need that sort of rubbish in my face, I just want something to draw with.

>>1956335
Sai's pretty cool. So is oC 1.1 but I'm right now I'm leaning towards SAI. Photoshop rocks too, but for a different reason I guess. I've used photoshop a lot so I don't think it's complicated at all, but SAI is definitely less complicated. You just have to get used to it.

>>1956266
that youmuuuuu I WANT TO TAKE IT HOME

>>1955843
I don't get it

oh dear, auto sage

Testing SAI now. Seems pretty awesome except for one thing: the buttons in my Wacom are mapped to some random rubbish now. The eraser is mapped to the select/move function, panning doesn't work at all, etc.

>>1956544
That didn't happen with my Wacom.

>>1957313
Yeah, but what Wacom?

>>1957879
An ancient Graphire 2.

Do you have the latest drivers?