/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sekai/Denpa/Maiden
Koikuma - Awaiting on Steam content and Chinese script integration, 2018 release
Dracu-Riot - Through 1st round of QA, fixes from QA next before more QA
Nanairo Reincarnation - In QA, waiting on a third party
Baldr Sky - 50% translated
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - 100% translated
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - 50% translated
Riajuu Plus - Release "within a couple months"
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 33% translated
>Creature to Koi Shiyo!! for Otome - Waiting on a third party
Miko no Kanata - Picked up
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
Tenshin Ranman - QA and engine work next
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
CyberRebeat - QA done, need fixes
G-senjou no Maou - Denpa version announced
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
Rewrite+ - Picked up
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Senren * Banka - Picked up
>Ninja Girl - 100% translated
Island Diary - Announced
Love Duction - 100% translated, needs engine work
Koi ni, Kanmi o Soete - In QA, needs testing
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - Picked up
Sumire - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 2 - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 3 - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 0 - Picked up
>Re;Lord Volume 2 - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work
>Majo Koi Nikki - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work
>Harumade Kururu - 75% edited, awaiting engine work, 2019 release
>Nekopara Extra - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work
>9 -nine- - 100% translated, 0% edited, awaiting engine work
>Tokyo Chronos - Kickstarter ongoing

Frontwing
>Grisaia: Phantom Trigger Vol 5 - Kickstarter finished
Sharin no Kuni - Targeting a September release
Island - Summer release
Loca-Love - Fall release
Lilitales - Picked up

Sol Press
Newton to Ringo no Ki - QA finished, awaiting approval from Steam, demo released
Sakura Sakura - Demo released, remain work includes finishing the increase in resolution
Yotsunoha - Q3 release, translation and editing wrapping up, demo Released

Nekonyan
Sanoba Witch - 90% translated, 45% edited, October 26th release
Hello,good-bye - 60% translated, 25% edited, November release
Fureraba ~Friend to Lover~ Mini Fandisc - Fall release
Fureraba Complete edition - Vita exclusive content to be added to Fureraba a couple months after the fandisc release
Suki to Suki to de Sankaku Ren'ai - Early 2019 release
Melty Moment - Aiming for a release next Winter
"Two big titles" to be announced in August

Cherry Kiss
Harem Guild - Upcoming release
Nekura Ijimerarekko o Tasuketara Natsukareta - Picked up

Fakku
Hemoimo - Dropped by SakuraGame and no longer being released on Steam, upcoming Fakku release planned. Currently waiting on beta build
Love Cube - Picked up

Other
Tayutama 2 - July release, R18 patch planned but may not be ready at launch
Punchline - Summer 2018 release
E-Gene - 1st entry planned for Fall 2018
London Detective Mysteria - Fall 2018 release
Magical Charming - Release planned
Song of Memories - 2018 release
Neighbor - 2018 release, 100% translated, editing to start soon
>Venus Blood Frontier - Prefundia up, Kickstarter in August
Angel Beats - 50% translated
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
Seven Days - Picked up
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

Yuuko's name was preserved in Hapymaher. All is not lost. I don't know if I should even complain about all the other issues now.

>>19432823
Quof has said that LxC2 is alive again and a partial is coming as soon as they fix a small technical issue now the large issue is fixed. On the downside he has found he needs to edit 1.5k images so I imagine that is going to take some work for the final patch.
https://dekirutranslations.wordpress.com/2018/07/13/lovely-x-cation-2-status-update/
>The silver lining is that a Hime patch won’t be too far off, and in fact is being stalled exclusively by the extraction/insertion bug (and the few essential images I’ll be editing immediately). Cheers!

https://discuss.jastusa.com/discussion/255270/so-outlaw-django-is-officially-cancelled-now

Apparently Jast is developing a new project page for status updates.

>>19432823
Flowers 3 translation has started: https://retrospring.net/Meru/a/38530

Also the Luckydog1 translator confirmed that Mangagamer is using her work. Though that was obvious already since people found mistakes in the opening song subtitles which match what she has on her blog: https://terracannon876.wordpress.com/2018/07/08/lucky-dog-1-announcement/

>>19433093
I've not started it yet but I have already noticed that on the options menu the Fullscreen option is tagged as 'Backlog'.

>>19433606
The other issue I saw was in the gesture settings menu. The little checkbox used to enable and disable the left and right click gestures doesn't show anything when you click on it (I expect some mark was meant to appear). It is still functional as if you click on it and exit out it will ask to discard changes and it will disable the gestures if you click apply after clicking it.
I will say it still gives a better first impression that Sekai's release. The external config tool is translated and the flashing text at the top of the auto demo is translated.

>>19432824
>>9 -nine- - 100% translated, 0% edited, awaiting engine work
As it's an episodic VN, you should specify that it's Kujou Miyako hen.

The uncensored content in Hapymaher, at least from the main artist, is actually quite good. Puffy vulva

>>19433096
Quof also mentions that he's working on a million character project or so for Mangagamer. It seems like a large nukige is set for an Otakon announcement, though to be fair, there are no guarantees that MG will announce it at Otakon or even that it is a nukige (it could be a moege for all we know.)

>>19434097
He posted that it will be announced soon, so I'd expect it at Otakon.

>>19432823
Shouldn't Maitetsu be on the list as it hasn't been released yet? Or well, the fan release is done, but the official one is still being worked on.

>>19434161
Are you trying to be funny or are you just an idiot?

>>19434178
No need to be angry, dovac. Everyone knows SP didn't do anything wrong. Nobody could have caught that super important issue which every reader noticed 20 minutes into the game.

>>19434203
You can't really expect people to do their job if they don't like the game, anon.

>>19432824
>Ninja Girl - 100% translated
What is this?

>>19434232
https://vndb.org/v21435

What are some JOP rec charts so I can ask for more games to be translated

>>19434276
Just ask for OniKiss and Low Spec.

There's a whole movement going on to get Robotics;Notes Elite and other SciADV titles localized. https://twitter.com/ophiddenhand/status/1017849149948157953

Spike Chunsoft and Steiner did say that the localization of these titles depends mostly on the amount of support, and that people should make as much noise as possible. Apparently they'll have more ways to show demand in the future.

>>19434400
>SciADV
No thank you.

>>19432823
>SukiSuki - In Beta

Only two more years to go!

>>19434532
Who cares about moege number 37

>>19434645
People still care about Bokuten and all

DAMEKOI FUCKING WHEN
ONORE DODDLER

$45

>>19434901
Compile all of them into a single album, don't post every single typo/grammar mistake you find.

>>19434995
You're not the boss of me.

>>19435008
Just do it for the thread, please. It'd be nice if we could make this last for a week this time.

What does "in scripting" even mean?

>>19435045
What do you want this thread to be about if you're opposed to every discussion?

>>19435045
The brain of a general-addicted /vg/ newfag.

Mahou Tsukai no Yoru is never getting finished

>>19434532
Reminder that SukiSuki is an average school moege and was translated by Arunaru. Enjoy your tacos and pizza. We don't want to confuse our American audience.

>>19435045
Endless thread with no substance. People want to know the TL quality of new releases. 1 guy posting a free QA pass two weeks after the release when everyone’s already read it and people who wanted to buy it bought it, is completely useless. Not posting anything about it means nothing’s wrong. One screenshot doesn’t mean he’s going to post everything he’s found.

>>19435082
>is completely useless
It's actually useless either way desu

>>19435087
In that case, I suggest using this instead of waiting for translations:
http://vn-hooking.wikia.com/wiki/Visual_Novel_Reading_Aid_Tool

>>19435103
An acknowledge that 99% of people don't care is not the same as suggesting I don't. Personally I care very much.

>>19435103

When is Chiitrans Lite gonna get updated again?

>>19435127
Seems there is a fork someone else made that got some extra commits.
https://github.com/piperun/chiitrans

Who was it that translated Kyonyuu Fantasy? Whoever it was should work on more projects.

>>19435177
No honorifics.

>>19435127
Why bother using it? ITHVNR + Translator Aggregator is a superior combination anyway.

>>19435177
Likely the same person who worked on 1, is working on 2, and I believe they also did that one Circus kusoge (not Da Crapo).

>>19435183
Good. Not-europe didn't need them anyway.

>>19435183
This is a good thing considering the setting.

>>19435194
If they didn't need them, japs wouldn't have used them.

>EOPs still think they deserve honorifics
lol

>>19435210
We don't think we deserve them. We just think nobody hired a translator who can translate around them.

As seen by about a dozen proofs in various VNs.

>>19435075
Arunaru did nothing wrong.

>>19435210
t. EOP

>>19435368
Implying I'm not a ramen connoisseur.

>>19435368
What was the brand?

>>19435368
Why tacos though? Could have at least kept it noodle related.

>>>/vg/221320492
>>>/vg/221319772
I didn't believe this, but I checked the in-game gallery and the thumbnail is still the old picture. Damn.
https://a.uguu.se/GBbPlJYFlxAL.jpg

>>19435512
Could have made it McDonalds as that is global. There are no global taco brands. Or IKEA meatballs, just to make it more exotic.

>>19435062
Its getting french tl :)

>>19435512
Arunaru made it a reference to Taco Bell as implied my the next thing Beauty says, something about a bell chime. I don't know the original pun, but I don't think you could make that into a McDonald's reference.

>>19435062
I'm working on it. Give me a few months.

>>19435973
I wish anon, I wish. :^(

Hapymaher seems like it's doing ok. I wonder if they will get the license for the fandisc.

>>19436075
I personally think that whether or not MG can get future Purplesoft games depends partly on how well Hapymaher can sell compared to Chrono Clock. Considering that Chrono Clock was on Steam though and even had a kickstarter with about 2k preorders, I have my doubts. Anyone know how about how well Chrono Clock did on Steam?

>>19401117
Yeah, about that...

>>19436149
Typo.

>>19436149
It's also present in other routes. Not on Yuzuyu's of course.
I'm using the patch that supposedly fixes a lot of typos btw.

Come on, do what >>19401090 says.
I want to see Chuee pissed off beyond belief.

>>19436136
Considering it was one of the worst releases by Sekai, it did better than it should have. It should have sold zero.

>>19436075
Is this more than a generic moege?

>>19436253
I wouldn't really call it a moege at all.

>>19436253
Well it isn't a generic moege but it sure is generic.

>>19436136
Who knows. Maybe they already have the license for the fandisc and are just waiting to announce it, it could even be announced at Otakon since that is when the main game was announced in 2016.

>>19436285
That woupdnt make much sense considering MGs sales of the base VN could (and likely will) be worse than Sekai's. I guess anything is possible, but I wouldnt be too confident about it.

>>19435177
I don't know about the translation, but the original writing is very good. Kagami-sensei knows his shit on how to put emotion into boobs, provide an interesting story and has a very readable style.

>>19436322
I don't think comparing the sales to Sekai really matters for them getting the license for the fandisc.

>>19435368
I was mostly shitposting about tacos and pizza, but while on the subject of SukiSuki, I think it has potential to create a lot of autistic screeching.

Yuuki will be written as Yuki.
It will have no honorifics.
Arunaru's nameshit will almost certainly pop up at some point. It always does.
The most popular girl doesn't have a route.

Maybe it would be better to stay in legal limbo forever. Or maybe since it is generic moege #1367 nobody will care.

>>19436617
>generic moege
Doesn't it have the whole rejection mechanic thing? That automatically takes it out of generic for a moege and is why people were interested in it after seeing one of the rejection scenes that got translated.

>>19436651
Well, I'm showing my bias when I see the word 'moege' I immediately assume generic. From EGS rankings it is received well enough. From what I've read the rejection mechanic is something you have to actively go out of your way to encounter. Though it is fair to assume anyone who reads SukiSuki will do just that. I know I will.

>>19436617
Yuuki autist will save you from that whether you want it or not.

>>19436617
>maybe since it is generic moege #1367 nobody will care.
Most people don't seem to care about MML's issues, so this is probably accurate, at least outside of /jp/. Most people would probably just be happy that it's out.

>>19436781
I find it strange how they decide to change the names of characters with 'uu' in their name but not change Tooru to Toru in Hapymaher.

>>19436253
It's actually got a pretty high amount of story while still having romcom elements

>>19436795
More or less people only care if the TL is Sakuragame bad or it actually is crashing and you can't progress

>>19436795
People didn’t care because MML is a bad moege

>>19436617
>moege
>no honorifics
MG can't be THAT retarded, right?
They surely got an editor to add them back after Arunaru was done with the script, right??
Also >>19436781

>>19436820
Depends on the translator. Arunaru is one of those translators that doesn't use Modified Hepburn for names.
Also, Wikipedia's romanization style is underrated (ō/ū for oo/uu)

>>19437053
What if it was a moege set in europe?

So this anaru guy translated Evenicle? He doesn't even know how the passive works and that 聞く has more than one meaning.

Besides his nameshit, Arunaru IS a good translator.

>>19437295
See >>19435194 and >>19435195. Everyone knows the setting changes everything.

>>19437334
That's why he's called the human MTL, right?

>>19437340
No one actually calls him that.

>>19437334
Nah.

>>19436617
>The most popular girl doesn't have a route.

Gotta have that fandisc bait

So what happened to Maitetsu? Did a fan fix it or is it still fucked?

>>19435046
It's getting engine and programming work done.

>>19438303
>Expecting Sekai to fix anything.

Lol good one.

>>19432823
>Togainu no Chi - Picked up

Why does the twitter announcement have more likes then Mangagamers entire AX lineup. Is it really that good?

>>19438727
It's gay.

>>19438727
Basically it's gay but with rape, beastiality and crazy stuff. that's all you need to know.

>>19438727
Fujoshi have a lot of twitter presence.

>>19435075
It’s by the same writer as Hikari no Umi no Apeiria, so I’d say it’s worth reading for that reason alone. It sounds like you’re an assblasted Alicesoft or Ryukishi fag who doesn’t understand how translation time works and is trying to shit on a game you know nothing about.

>>19436617
Oh, you’re the retarded Yuurifag. Never mind then.

>>19439233
>Oh, you’re the retarded Yuurifag. Never mind then.
Why would I complain about SukiSuki of all things? I'm looking forward to fixing it and reading it. Arunaru used twitter block instead of arguments, then he cried to Kouryuu, who came here and talked about something else entirely.
By the way, there's plenty of ways to put tacos and pizza into a moege. Just ask Chuee.

>>19439233
>It’s by the same writer as Hikari no Umi no Apeiria
That sounds more like a reason not to read it.

>>19439880
oh fuck they're spreading

>>19440446
Look; you can think that Apeiria is shit. I don't really care. That said, the simple fact that the same writer wrote both of them makes SukiSuki automatically notable. Would you say that H2O is another generic moege, or that OMGWTFOTL is just another generic memege? The simple fact that a writer is notable also makes his work notable.

>>19440500
>The simple fact that a writer is notable also makes his work notable.
You really think so?

Flowers got delayed yet again, RIP

>>19441269
I don't understand how if they sold it at AX.

https://www.change.org/p/spike-chunsoft-please-localize-robotics-notes-elite-for-english-audiences

>1200 lol

https://discord.gg/5mpe97
https://discordapp.com/invite/gtNRnbe

https://solpress.co/blog/288/sol-press-weekly-round-up-07-16-2018

>>19442451
Damn it Doddler, stop carrying so many VNs on your shoulders.

>>19442541
Doddler is pretty much the entire industry.

>>19441269
Jast gonna jast

>>19441269
Schatten also isn't released yet.

>>19441269
>>19443114
JAST runs on California time. Wait until the end of the day

>>19443716
That's 3AM EST by the way

I just got a response from Lose about Maitetsu, unsurprisingly they're pissed off at sekai for claiming they can't touch the source code. They're also angry that they drew on the towels without telling Lose that they did. Apparently they're ready to pull the license from sekai and leaving the English market entirely.

>>19444108
Proof?

>>19444108

post it

>>19444108
You wouldn't lie on the internet, would you?

Can anyone explain this to me? I seriously don't understand this line.

>>19444398
Maia and Saki (when Maia was gone) took great delight in tormenting the MC.

>>19444398
Commas can be used as parenthesis.

>>19444425
I guess I'm not used to seeing verbs connected to subject inside of parenthesis. Such is life of ESL scum.

>>19444465
According to the Chicago Manual of Style, you shouldn’t be used to it, because it’s wrong.
>Q. I am unsure of how to handle subject-verb agreement in sentences that involve em dashes or parentheses. For example, “The president (and, to some extent, Congress) is committed to the policy” or “The president—and, to some extent, Congress—is committed to the policy.” Is it correct to treat the subject in each of these sentences as singular or plural?
>A. Singular. Choose a verb as though the parenthetical “afterthought” weren’t there. (This is true if the afterthought is set off by commas as well.)
Take in >>19444398 should be takes.

>>19444586
You're wrong, but for a completely different grammar reason. "I had seen Maia take great delight" is 100% proper grammar. "I had seen Maia takes great delight" is wrong.

>>19444753
Shit, I thought there was a ‘that’. Filled it in automatically.

Missing/extra honorifics, apostrophe usage, or typos (all very rare) are the least of Hapymaher's problems. The main problem is that it's boring. So damn boring. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I liked Chrono Clock better. As a VN, not as a translation, of course.

https://twitter.com/NekoNyanSoft/status/1019034337872957441

Hah, someone is finally bringing over a Yuzusoft title after all of this time.

>>19444846
Rather funny how they will allegedly get it out in October, but Sekai has had Ranman for over 3 years now and still can't get it released. Hopefully it isn't another typo-ridden translation.

>>19444846
It even will have a physical release.

>>19444798
Missing honorifics are not rare at all. Like japanese audio in 2 consecutive sentences has one character saying A-san, but the -san is written in only one of them. But that’s the same in almost every vn so I am used to it. I don’t know what it is about honorifics that’s hard to do.

>>19445370
I understand the logic of dropping the generic -san/-chan when translating.
I also always enjoys when it gets to the typical gag where someone drops or changes the honorifics on purpose. You can see the translator in panic mode through the translation, usually making up some lame joke or nickname as substitution. It completely destroys the scene and the translation, and should give a hint about the use or not of honorifics when translating from Japanese.

>>19445480
That’s not what I mean, that’s why I gave an example. Like I’m in the beginning of chapter 4 right now. Saki addresses Keiko as Hirasaka-san in jp 100% of the time, but the translation only uses Hirasaka-san 90% of the time. Twice in a single conversation, the honorific was dropped for no apparent reason. This leads me to believe it’s just a case of not paying attention to detail, rather than a deliberate genocide of honorifics.

Both Flowers and Trample are out, strangely enough. JAST has been on time recently.

>>19444798
i found it to be better than Chrono Clock personally, but it's still not very good

i've said this before and i'll say it again: Purple Soft only makes kusoge. none of their titles are good aside from the artwork and some good girls. however, they're always dragged own by shit writing.

>>19445533
The delay of Flowers 2 on Steam may be the usual Valve issues then, although it seems like an odd title to run into issues. That said, Doddler had previously noted that he was aware of cases where titles "without any nudity or overt sexual content" had been running into problems.

>>19445646
In this case it's all on jast's end, you can't sell a game on steam without the store page being online for at least a week, and jast just put the steam page up today. They probably misunderstood the process?

>>19445646
>>19445678
https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/1019077188815994880
Jast confirmed that the delay is on Valve's end

>>19445678
Someone from Jast noted back when Valve began to more stringently review VNs that one of their approved unlisted titles had been "unapproved' by Valve to be re-reviewed. There hasn't been any other Jast release on Steam since, so there is a good shot that was referring to Flowers.

>>19445646
>>19445678
https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/1019077188815994880
Jast confirmed that the delay is on Valve's end, although that is probably just the waited week rather than a content issue.

Although content wise someone from Jast noted back when Valve began to more stringently review VNs that one of their approved unlisted titles had been "unapproved' by Valve to be re-reviewed. There hasn't been any other Jast release on Steam since, so there is a good shot that was referring to Flowers, although unless it got flagged to be on the "wait for the filters" list, that happened a while ago so the content issues should have been long resolved.

Say,
If I wanted to be a VN programmer, what's the first thing I would need to learn?

>>19446023
How to research independently of others without relying on being spoonfed

>>19444798
I love to say I told you so.

>>19446023
Clean code.

>>19446023
Depends on what your programming knowledge level is already at.
If you know some basic shit then get to know some of the tools used with the various engines. Maybe read through the source (if available) after messing with them to try and understand what they are doing.

>>19446887
>Clean code.
While that is nice for yourself and anyone who will read your code later, that won't help you make sense of some of the hacky shit some of the Japs get up to.

>>19447104
Japanese VN programmers also should learn it before working.

>>19446023
How to become doddler

>>19446023
How to make better decisions.

>>19446023
Ren'Py

>>19446023
math

Flowers is so soft.

Hapymaher was alright. Some pretty hot H-scenes and some decent moments overall, but I do think that it's a pretty mediocre title overall. Much better release than CC for sure, but I'm not really positive I want more from Purple Software after this. CC was awful and Hapymaher was just mediocre.

>>19446023
How to suck SP's dick.

>>19449551
This has always been the consensus about PurpleSoft games. Decent art, decent girls, shitty story. Aoi Tori and Amatsutsumi are only slightly better than their previous titles.

>>19449551
The only bad things about CC were the TL and the detached H-scenes. All the girls were better than Hapymaher's.

How do I get gud at prose?

>>19449672
Become a best selling author

>>19449647
And the shitty plot
And the shitty endings
Good girls don't mean much when the rest of it is so bad to read

>>19449964
>shitty plot
It's not a plotge. Not to mention that Hapymaher does not have good plot either.
>shitty endings
Michiru's = God tier, Makoto's = great, Misaki's = good, DD's = crap, Kuro's = deus ex machina bullshit, but still good, Miu = irrelevant
It's a VN about girls. They and the interactions with/between them are the most important parts. Chrono Clock is a good VN.

>>19449647
>The only bad things about CC were the TL and the detached H-scenes
Other than Cro's, I don't think any of the routes were particularly good and I came out of it thinking it was kind of a waste of time. I also really hate that CC doesn't use its premise like at all.

So no honorifics in Schatten. "Onii-chan" is also the character's name.

>>19450036
Imagine having taste this bad that you actually thought anything in that shitty VN could be categorized as "god tier"

>>19450045
truly the end times

>>19450045
What do they call him in the translation then?

>>19450045
>"Onii-chan" is also the character's name
Like this?

>>19450073
Onikiss is so good

>>19450070
The character Serika. Her brother she calls Onii-chan but it's left as Shunji. Incidentally, she ends up calling Kizaiah "nee-san" and they leave it as "sis" so I dunno

>>19450120
Well, it has a fantasy european setting, so it can't be help- Oh wait.

>>19450120
>Incidentally, she ends up calling Kizaiah "nee-san" and they leave it as "sis" so I dunno
Because they can't translate around that

"Kizaiah, can I call you Kizaiah?" is obviously retarded

>>19450141
Retarded is your only option after you remove honorifics though. So it is a translation choice.

>>19450045
So not only fuck up the TL, but also port it to memety, so no one can ever fix it.

>>19450349
You did this, Doddler. It's your fault.

Honorifics are cancer. They literally add nothing to characterization and are distracting.

>>19450474
You know what’s distracting? Having to constantly fix the name of the characters in your head as you’re reading.

>>19450535
What do you think of honorifics toggles like the one newrin will have?

>>19450474
Literally cancer. If you cut it off without proper care, the host dies.

>>19450474
>They literally add nothing to characterization
I mean this is obviously not true

>>19450553
A huge waste of resources for a very small minority which actively prefers the lack of honorifics rather than not caring or wanting them in. Companies can't even QA one version of a game, let alone two. Sol Press demos definitely didn't inspire confidence in me.

>>19450688
>a very small minority
It's a majority by now.

>>19450696
I'm talking in general, not just amongst cartel members.

>>19450696

>>19450696
http://www.strawpoll.me/16098676

>>19451093
By making those meme notes you only give people excuse to not take this poll seriously because it's biased.

>>19451243
Of course the losing side would say that.

>>19451248
So why give a losing side an opportunity for excuses do begin with?

>>19451093
I'm for Honorifics and all but a strawpoll in a thread with 62 IPs doesn't really prove anything.

>>19450553
If they're going to dedicate time to creating two different scripts I wish they would actually sell them as two separate versions. That way they could compare honorifics sales against no honorifics sales and figure out what their paying customers prefer. That would be interesting data.

>>19451297
Of course, we've got our Sol "First release never" Press for that. >>19261658
>From the surveys we've conducted, there's a non-insignificant group (>10-30%+) who prefer non-honorifics
Now, as they're more focused on LNs, obviously a big part of that survey were LN normalfags who have never read a VN before. If they realized it's hurting the final product by splitting resources, the feature would quickly lose support.

>>19451297
Feel free to make a really big one - Google poll, not this easily botted shit - and post it here, on /vn/, fuwa, plebbit, popular IRC servers (are there even any left?), and popular discord servers. I thought about doing it, but I would have to make a plebbit account for that. I don't like that.

>>19451479
I am quite interested in the result myself, also what kind of an impact can the public opinion have on future releases (I doubt it’s going to have an impact, but you never know)
I will post it everywhere I can think of. If you’re curious too, then help me spam it in the next two weeks.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdC78xb3vobwtZJRHVY9ITMQtED3Xn15kvT2kaOghBoedA8GQ/viewform

>>19452290
You are really bad at making polls.

>>19452290
why would somebody who can read VNs without a text hooker read translations at all lmao

>>19453433
To stay up to date on the latest epic memes.

>>19453406
It's an amazing poll. Shut the fuck up.

>>19452290
The VN market is far too niche for a survey to only last half a month.
Extend it by another month or two to see some proper results.

>>19454062
Has MG ever had the honorific question on their survey? I know they have asked about things like resolution before now, but I can't remember every question they have ever asked. If not then they probably should at some point.
Theirs should be well known enough to not need more than a month since it would be plastered everywhere within the first week.

>>19454118
They probably just leave it to translator's choice.

>>19453433
I've seen people who read translations when they're available despite supposedly being able to read things untranslated because they "can read faster in English". I don't really get it myself, but there you go.

>>19454139
They do, but the survey they do is probably the largest around for the western scene so it would give a more reliable information than some anon posting a random poll around. That is if they do it and give the result.

>>19454151
Just because you can read doesn't mean you can read fast. Skimming in English and skimming in Japanese probably requires different mindsets on identifying keywords and phrases.
ESLs are given extra time for testing in college if requested through the proper channels so its not like this is news.

>>19454151
Makes sense to me. Just because you can read it in Japanese doesn't mean you the time to do so. People have jobs and other problems that take precedence.

>>19454049
I gave it a try myself. It is pretty hard to make polls. Especially as I couldn't really find any place to choose the active time period for replies.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc6fSQbmBLsiAqv5u1G8EQl0L02ligeuEyCSXbbUK0wh9o3Sg/viewform

>>19454220
Actual ESL (Spanish) here. Pretty much this.
It was a chore to read English at first, but eventually got better at it to the point it feels natural to do so. But it's still a chore if the text contains too much of Ye Olde Speech or Pseudo Intellectual garbage like philosophy or pseudoscience terminology.

Currently learning Japanese and it's the same shit I want to kill myself.

>>19454247
>yokai
Youkai. Make your damn poll afterwards. It's gonna clutter the respondent pool. Honorifics are serious business

>>19454220
>>19454221
You read so slowly because you take any excuse you can get to avoid reading in Japanese.

>>19454289
I don't even know Japanese. But I'm not such a clueless autist that I think most people don't have other concerns in their lives that are more important than their hobbies.

>>19454280
Forgot to add:
It's the same shit BUT HARDER BECAUSE NO LATIN ALPHABET.
WHO THE FUCK HAD THE IDEA TO USE MOONRUNES AAAAA.

>>19454294
They cared enough to learn a whole language, but not enough the see it all the way through. I can't imagine how they expect to get through some of the longer untranslated games.

if you're reading a translation when the original is accessible to you and there isn't a good reason (like it being a game with major bugfixes/improvements in the translated version) then you're doing it because you don't really know japanese

>>19454352
There's no point explaining shit like this to people like you so I'm not going to bother.

>>19454393
Thanks for replying just to tell me that.

>>19454401
You can always count on me, aniki.

>>19454285
>yokai
But that is the spelling on my manga.... god dammit localizers.

>>19454522
It's not exactly wrong, but the type of romanization some localizers use is different from the type /jp/ prefers. I generally prefer what /jp/ likes because it's more exact, but it's not a problem for me as long as the game is consistent about it. The main issue with the romanization style /jp/ likes is that some names get a little long and look kind of cumbersome (Toukyou instead of Tokyo), but I'm used to that type of thing.

>>19454358
Well in this case the question said being able to read without a text hooker not whether they know jap.

>>19449647
>>19450036
Whatcha doin Rabbi?

>>19455310
I'm not saying you should buy it. You should definitely not reward SP for CC's terrible release. I'm merely commenting on the quality of the VN.

>>19452290
>How many translated visual novels have you read (completed) this year thus far?
>Do you sometimes read untranslated visual novels?
>WIthout machine translation or text-hooking.
I guess I don't actually read VNs.

>>19455747
Then I guess your opinion is meaningless.

Moogy retweeting some law student misciting copyright law to own fan translators, neither of them realizing or understanding what they're citing.

If you needed any more evidence about how hostile the community has become to fan translation, there it is.

>>19455899
I want to translate Itsusora just so that everyone fugs moogy.
Anyone got working tools? Not the python ones at tlwiki.

Random question pertaining to a translation I'm working on. There's a character named 美つち, and I'm trying to figure out what I should go with for the romanization:
>Bi Tsuchi
>Bitsuchi
>Bizuchi
>????

Thoughts? If it helps, it's a snake-girl character, and other characters have names that play on their race (for example, a racoon girl named Tanukiko).

>>19455952
What you should do is to stop fantling.

>>19455952
How about Cubra :^)

>>19456016
This. Otherwise you'll get sued by the heika himself.

>>19456025
you know like, cutie + cobra.

>>19455899
Their interpretation of Pickett v Prince is asinine. The alleged infringement in that case went:

>Prince made Prince symbol
>Pickett made guitar based on Prince symbol
>Prince made guitar based on Prince symbol
>Pickett sued Prince for copyright infringement

In translation, this would be the equivalent to:

>Company releases game in Japanese
>Fan translator releases translation of game
>Company releases their own official translation
>Fan translator sues company for copyright infringement

>>19455899
If it were true SP wouldn't buy any fan TLs, they'd just wait for them to release and then snag a free translation.

>>19456025
I already had to fight public opinion in order to go with using actual translations like "master" instead of "danna-sama". I'd rather not get them further riled up by outright changing names.

>>19456016
Nah!

>>19455899
>expecting a fart-sniffing layman that lives with his mother to have any semblance of intelligence
Moogy isn't even worth mentioning. Who cares if he's spouting stupid shit on his Twitter that no-one follows?

>>19455952
Call her Bitch, and then edit all graphics so she is a dog girl instead. Easiest solution.

>>19456107
>I already had to fight public opinion in order to go with using actual translations like "master" instead of "danna-sama"
You fucked it up completely. Kill yourself, liberal translator-kun.

>>19456094
Like most of copyright law, it's not well tested, although a ruling like that would be pretty disastrous to the very concept of art. While courts have been pretty ridiculous for the last half century on the rights of copyright holders, they have introduced a fifth exception to copyright (works of a transformative nature) and upheld it (Cariou v Prince - photoshopping photos sufficiently to express a new/different concept is a 100% new piece of art).

>>19456107
I mean it's not really a name change, she uses the kanji for beauty and tsuchi for i guess slithering through the ground.

>>19456094
That's what some Japanese dude did with their RPG maker garbage and tweeted about owning the fan translator.

They're both violating copyright, but laziness and unwillingness to act on it aren't going to help.

Sekai/MG/Jast would also run into legal problems because they've in the past past explicitly encouraged fan translations and civil courts (there's no way this would rise to criminal) tend to be pretty punitive towards entrapment-like behavior.

>>19456129
>a ruling like that would be pretty disastrous to the very concept of art

It would obliterate the comic and music industries overnight.

>>19455899
I just don't announce my shit at all until it's finished, and then release it at the same time. That's the best way to fan-translate.

>>19456194
You and me both.

>>19456209
Me three my dudes

>>19456088
The more important part (and the part that they're misunderstanding) is that Pickett's argument is that putting the symbol on a guitar was a derivative work, ergo it was protected. The court found that putting a symbol on a guitar involved no original content and so, okay, maybe it was derivative since it was a different thing, but it wasn't copyrightable. A more accurate comparison would be printing out a game's script on paper and trying to claim that's copyrightable as a derivative work.. and then suing the company for printing the script too.

>>19456194
>>19456209
>>19456218
Too bad it didn't work for Aroduc.

>>19456194
>>19456209
>>19456218
What's the latest project you guys have worked on?

>>19456267
I'd say one of them is the guy who did 11eyes.

>>19456194
>>19456209
>>19456218
t. people who don't work on translations

My favorite part of copyright law is that until the late 1800s, translations were allowable as fuck under copyright and the case that decided that and used as precedent was because an author was planning on publishing their own German translation of their book, but it was so much shittier than the one a random German company did unauthorized that it would be found to be against the greater good of society for the copyright holder to be able to block it and only their own shitty version to be allowed.

It's a massive shame it was overturned and the courts became so draconian in their protection of the original creator.

>>19456386
Just because you need your e-peen sucked doesn't mean everyone does.

>>19456502
I love having my e-dick sucked, but the risk outweighs the rewards, and people will throw a fit about every little thing. I also don't want to deal with having a forum for all the little shits who can't install things or similar.

>>19456502
There's no point in having an internet identity to be honest. Cartel fags, redditors, and fuwagays will lash at you out of boredom.

The Denpasoft storefront got rather significant redesign. Although, one of the things it seems to have done is re-implemented the long term best selling sort.

At a glance, it supports that the "leaked" numbers last month was some other metric then sales. The most obvious difference is the "leak" last month had The Bell Chimes for Gold ranked first overall, while the best selling sort has it ranked as 57th of 63, and the latter seems much more in line with expectations of how it would sell considering its poor Steam showing. Most of Denpa's other recent releases also showed relatively strong numbers on the "leak", while they are generally rather far down on the list with the best selling sort. Seven Days with the Ghost is ranked 37th, Girls in Glasses 43rd, Re;Lord 48th, Re;Lord R18 patch 58th, 2236 AD 59th, and I Walk With Zombies 60th. Unsurprisingly Grisaia and Nekopara R18 patches still make up the top of the list.

>>19456639
Does it work as a store yet though? Like does it give you an account page with your purchased games on it?

It shouldn't take this long to go from a beta store to a real store.

>>19456166
The guy who did translation uploaded a whole game, not just a patch, so it's a bit different precedent.

Why the fuck is SakuraGame getting Circus games at all.
It's not fucking fair.
We're never getting a proper translation of these now.

>>19457319
Can't MangaGamer poke Circus and tell them about their terrible machine translations?
Or all hope is lost?

>>19457333
If Sakuragame gets any, hope is essentially lost. I doubt Sakuragame would lose the license, but I cant say for sure that Circus would change their minds. I always thought Circus titles did pretty well for MG, but I also dont know what Circus values in choosing which titles to license. For Fortissimo, IIRC Circus was only 1 dev though.

>>19457319
Which one? If you are talking about Fortissimo then notice there are two versions and look at the devs.
https://vndb.org/v4021
https://vndb.org/v7595
Notice the one which SakuraGame got doesn't have Circus listed.

>>19457319
Fortissimo isn't technically by Circus, and Eternal Fantasy is only getting a Chinese translation. As I understand it, SG's Chinese translations are actually okay - I don't have a problem as long as they don't start encroaching on the English market any more than they already have.

What Lilith games are most similar to Ochiru Hitozuma?
I suppose what I'm looking for is just a bit of characterization and enough plot to set up the next scene.

>>19457319
Now.
For all we know, They could have gotten the license for FA only and EXS is still up for grabs.
Somebody try to contact La'cryma to confirm please.

>>19457369
That version of Fortissimo being uninvolved with Circus aside, Circus games have traditionally done okay. In the past, they've probably sold more than the Overdrive games, but chances are, they didn't help to much in keeping Mangagamer afloat like the cheap nukige they sold. I would say that the Circus stuff probably sold substantially more than even at best, at least assumimg the various DC fan disks weren't all complete passion projects. Moege in general only became great sellers once Steam came along; this is also true of Da Capo 3. DC3 only sold about 1k copies in Steam, but that still essentially doubled the total amount of sales. I doubt that's enough to convince MG to do the Plus Communication versions of DC1 and DC2 though.

Why the fuck doesn't any western company sell cheapass nukige like Miel's or appetite if that's what people want to buy.

>>19459491
MG used to do that way back when but for some reason has significantly dialed it down as of the past 2-3 years.

>>19459491
Nobody wants to buy cheap nukige, they want to buy 99c memegames

>>19455952
There's 95% chance that 美 is "Mi" in names.

>>19460428
also the allusion it's trying to make might be https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%9B%9F
but it seems like a bit of a stretch unless she's a pretty watery snake

>>19459491
Cherry Kiss games does, you can buy them at JASTs store.

>>19461193
isn't Cherry Kiss a Chinese company that MTL's and keeps mosaics?

>>19461255
Nop, Cherry Kiss is from Canada. They do keep mosaics but they dont MTL, Dergonu who did Tsui Yuri for MG is working on their next game.

>>19461289
I just remember their very first release being censored and having an atrocious translation and I wrote them off as a result of that. Guess we'll just have to wait and see if they can put out quality work after a few missteps.

>>19461308
Actually that was done by a different company first but then Cherry got the license and made a uncensored version (still has mosaics tho).

>>19461341
if it still has mosaics it's not an uncensored version but rather a restored version since they're restoring cut content.

>>19432823
Is this gosurori going to fill my mafuyu shaped hole in my heart and dick?

>>19461434
She is fandisc bait, so if you can read Japanese, sure.

>>19461434
>>19461593
well technically you do fuck her. she has around 3 h-scenes in the original game

So are fan translation dead?

>>19462341
Almost.

>>19462341
They were always dead on the inside.

>>19462388
Why is Moogy talking about paying rent when he lives with his Mom?

>>19462397
He pretends like he has responsibilities to make himself feel better.

>>19462341
It's more alive than ever thanks to text hookers and google translate. Fight me.

>>19462984
that isn't called a "translation", it's "garbage"

>>19462341
Fan translations are a thing from the past when companies weren't willing to open to the western market.
I THINK they could still work for stuff that won't ever get translated either because the company is defunct (for example Rococo's games) or there's not enough interest to localize it (Think any pre-2010 game that isn't hailed as kamige).
My two cents on the matter.

>>19463903
Tell me a list of defunct companies and I'll translate something.

>>19464063
ChuableSoft

>>19464063
Makura

>>19464063
May-Be soft

>>19464201
I'd be so fucking stoked if someone picked up Henshin 3 or even Change! as a fan-TL project.

>>19464063
F&C

Speaking of things never likely to get a license, that Lost Colors game looks pretty cool. I think Quof or Hadler wrote a post about it forever ago that got me pretty interested in it.

>>19464212
More /d/ eroge would be nice in general.

>>19464063
Littlewitch.

Remember how that worked out?

>>19466162
Littlewitch IPs were owned by its successor company Tenco though. That's not the case with every bankrupt company, and it doesn't take a genius to see where rights go most of the time.

If anyone from Sol Press is still here, can you enlighten us on why Newton is taking so long? I know about the Steam approval issues obviously, but what's stopping you from releasing the 18+ version on other platforms? NN went ahead with Fureraba's release despite steam delays, and from the looks of it, it didn't appear to affect their sales at all. Plenty of people still bought it on Steam and the ones interested in the 18+ version didn't have to wait months for no reason.

>>19432823
JAST BLUE twitter confirmed another BL title. Slow Damage from Nitro+Chiral was also licensed: https://twitter.com/JASTBLUE/status/1020199239484182528

It was previously included on the AX poster but they didn't comment on it until now.

http://www.nitrochiral.com/game/slow-damage/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3gzwLQWbgo

>>19432823
JAST BLUE twitter confirmed another BL title. Slow Damage from Nitro+Chiral was also licensed: https://twitter.com/JASTBLUE/status/1020199239484182528 (embed)

It was previously included on the AX poster but they didn't comment on it until now.

http://www.nitrochiral.com/game/slow-damage/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3gzwLQWbgo

http://liquid.nexton-net.jp/15th/

What are the chances of MG picking it up eventually?

>>19467354
Huge I guess, as it seems to be dark themed.

>>19459491
You don't know about the greatness that is Cherry Dev yet. His survey contained Miel and Norn Titles, but they went for Norn.

>>19467354
Depends on how well Kuroinu sold. Although, I am curious on whether they will pursue Kuroinu Kai as a compilation to the separated Kuroinu chapters.

>>19467856
dunno if it sold well since there's no reason to buy it other than to hear voices since the episodic series has all the (well there wasn't much to begin with but it was still a thing) plot cut out and completely reordered everything in a way that makes 0 fucking sense. It's just a really pricey H-scene viewer with no content other than the H-scenes due to them completely breaking apart the story. Imagine playing MGQ Part 2 > 1 > 3. That's pretty much what it feels like.

Evenicle dropped to #4 on MGs weekly rankings getting overtaken by two third party doujin games.

When should we expect Aiyoku No Eustia translation realistically? 2019? 2020?

>>19470031
At this rate? 4 years from now.

>>19469792
Well at least Hapymaher is first place still.

>>19470031
>>19470038
Actually at the rate it's gone so far it'd be 1.5-2 years. Realistically though is never.

>>19469792
A gameplay eroge being overwhelmed by gameplay eroge about 1/3rd of its price isn't surprising, especially since it's been about three weeks after its release. The prospect of Evenicle and three cheap H-RPG titles clogging up the top 5 weekly for the next few months is amusing though.

>>19470055
Hapymaher is probably selling pretty well overall. It being 1st even after a week is a pretty good sign at least.

>>19470295
I just hope it sells well enough for the fandisc to be brought over.

>>19464229
>>19464229
This good?:
https://vndb.org/v1879
https://vndb.org/v19763

I'm a sucker for onee-chans but I'm also a lolicon so I'll do both.

>>19470342
At the very least, no new first party MG moege are likely to be on sale until September which gives a good amount of leeway for Hapymaher. As far as other companies go, the clearest competition is Sanova Witch, which isn't coming out until late October. Sekai could announce a release date for a moege, but I don't find it too likely that it will be within the next few months, while I don't think JAST actually has any upcoming moege.

>>19470518
Hapymaher is not a moege.

>>19470514
I wouldn't worry about a DMCA (unless you set up a patreon or an outright kickstarter), but F&C seem pretty alive to me.

Speaking of Hapymaher, I just got to chapter 7 and found 3 really obvious misTLs in a single scene. That's really strange, considering I hadn't found any others so far.

https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/1019501452258152449
Anyone know what these 'minor text updates/improvements' were?

>>19470562
Most likely a fix for the typos which were posted here and changing Kalars' classification from subhuman to something else. I really doubt they did anything that actually matters.

>>19470562
There's been a number of typos and small issues brought up by users, so of course they'd want to fix those problems. Unlike sekai.

>>19470675
Nice MML patch.

>>19467192
I still don’t get why they’re doing DMMD, considering it’s the worst Chiral game and everyone knows it.

>>19470722
No one cares about MML tho

>>19470759
I can't deny that.

>>19470759
Doesn't excuse it not being fixed.

>>19470778

Playing it right now. Early into the game so far. What needs fixing..?

>>19470795
https://imgur.com/a/cRmlVmy and more.

>>19470795
Mostly inconsistent localization and sloppy work on honorifics, from what I've seen. If they could also make the game less bad and add anal to other routes than Luce's, that would be great.

>>19470808
Also they probably should have redrawn the protagonist's balls in that one Yorihime h-scene.

Would it be possible to play uncensored Hapymaher in Japanese?

>>19470990
I really doubt a patch can be made. There are no tools for repacking the archives where the images are stored.

>>19471001
I’d love something that can pack .cpz. I know you’re here, Doddler. You know what to do if you’re ever bored.

>>19470990
>>19471001
This. Even YuuriAutist had to use an external tool to re-edit chrono;clock (same engine), and it has its downsides: it breaks the dynamic textbox and takes a huge amount of time to load when you start the game.
You can dump the untranslated script into the translated version using the same tools, which accomplishes what you want to do, but it's a chore.
I'm the one that gave him the tools, so I may still have them somewhere if you're up for it.

>>19471159
Actually, I have the information required to make a .cpz repacker, but my programming skills amount to scripting stuff in Python and stealing shit from stackoverflow, so I don't even want to attempt it. Want it?

Also STAAHP asking Doddler for stuff, he's already carrying the entire industry on his shoulders.

>>19471350
That is how everyone programs.

>>19471390
Not true. I don't use SO, I reverse-engineer competitor's code and copy-paste Hexrays output.

>>19471350
>which accomplishes what you want to do
But it doesn’t. The only thing you can change is anything which appears in the textbox. The images, the menus and the UI, and the backlog chapter names+descriptions are still in English. Plus the textbox is still fucked, since MG made it twice as big than it was before.

>>19471350
>Actually, I have the information required to make a .cpz repacker, but my programming skills amount to scripting stuff in Python and stealing shit from stackoverflow, so I don't even want to attempt it. Want it?
Send it to the guy who manages GARbro.
https://github.com/morkt/GARbro/issues/99

>>19470747
Supposedly it has been heavily requested at cons. Even if its the worst, it'll probably sell the best of the 4 Chiral titles.

>>19472511
The funny thing is that it has probably the most complete and functional translation of any of the Chiral games they're localizing. It's not something like Sweet Pool or Togainu no Chi which could benefit from an official release; JAST could literally just repackage the fanTL and you wouldn't be able to notice the difference.

This just goes to show fujoshi are complete idiots. Then again, I guess I should've seen the warning signs when fucking Diabolik Lovers got into the top 20 on the MangaGamer survey.

>>19472868
At least voting for Diabolik Lovers in the survey has more of an impact than voting for a whole bunch of never evers.

>>19471001
>>19471159
>>19471350

i've had this shit working since cc came out

no one actually was willing to work on editing the script at the time so i abandoned it

not sure the state of my code since it has been months since I wrote it

>>19472868
What was wrong with Togainu No Chi's translation? I remember hearing Sweet Pool and Mink's route from DMMD had issues.

Lamento I never heard much about in terms of the translations quality.

>>19472868
What was wrong with Togainu No Chi's translation? I remember hearing Sweet Pool and Mink's route from DMMD had issues.

Lamento I never heard much about in terms of the translations quality.

I noticed that people already found glaring issues in the Luckydog1 translation Mangagamer is releasing.

>>19473380
Still learning C++ you mong. I believe I said that it would take years before I was good enough to even attempt doing a repacker.
Anyways, post it if you still have it. I want to learn from it.
Also I can try to contact the yuuri guy and see if he's willing to port his re-edit from the shitty external tool to the base engine.

ccpack.7z my.mixtape.moe/mufvgp.7z

I've written too many packers to keep them all straight, but I remember there being keys derived from md5ing a string in the .exe so it might not work on a different game. It only does the version of .cpz that it came packed with too.

>>19472910
Diabolik Lovers is a never ever too. Previous Otomate titles have only been localized either by Idea Company International or Aksys Games. MangaGamer isn't getting the rights to it anytime soon, and I have doubts it'll ever see a PC release.

>>19473494
I'm not sure if there's anything wrong with the translation of Togainu no Chi, but every time I loaded a save the game would freeze up. I don't know if that problem was introduced in translation or whether it was in the original, though.

Lamento has a fairly good translation, from what I've seen. There's probably room for improvement, but it's certainly better than the disaster that Sweet Pool was.