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A thread for the discussion of any and all works by Type-MOON, or Kinoko Nasu

TYPE-MOON's official site
http://www.typemoon.com/

TYPE-MOON BOOKS
http://typemoon.com/book/typemoonbooks

TYPE-MOON's official site before going commercial
http://www.typemoon.org/

TYPE-MOON Mega Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

Type Moon General Download Links

>MAHOU TSUKAI NO YORU (Witch on the Holy Night)
https://nyaa.si/view/943509

>Kara no Kyoukai - the Garden of sinners
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime Plus+Disc
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/291819
Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ
https://livingflcl.eva-not-end.com/manga/complete/tsukihime.html

>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY

>MELTY BLOOD
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code - Community Edition (cccaster v3.0a.020)
https://nyaa.si/view/1041549
Melty Blood: Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Chapter 1: Dream.01 (Part 1)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16vdZqbX39Ww33EvcIrpRK29A_oGaPwmK
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2386805
Fate/stay night [HEAVEN'S FEEL] Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!YxF1BDDZ!eK2Qb9yMNXd-6l8zddeeCA
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2432745
Fate/zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M

>Holy Grail 2.0 - TYPE-MOON PC Games
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Type Moon Mega Folder
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw

Books

>Decoration Disorder Disconnection (DDD)
https://mega.nz/#!8BJQnaBK!kdrZ107A9Th4amk4RJoX81txOcMwR6OmyaULDtlt1no
>Fate/strange Fake
http://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
http://somethingorotherscans.com/fsf.php
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Lord El Melloi II Case Files
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e310zzwwyhmw0cw/Lord+El+Melloi+II+Case+Files+Volume+1.pdf
>Today's MENU for EMIYA Family
https://mangadex.org/manga/18712/what-s-cooking-at-the-emiya-house-today
>Tsuki no Sango - Coral of the Moon
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx

Other Links

>Beast's Lair forum
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Crucis Fatal + Fake
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2www4qbvi22xhwd/CRUCIS+FATAL+FAKE.rar
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ/edit?usp=sharing
>Fate/Extra Mod (for readability)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2PTcaCCMJ0 [Embed]
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Fuyuki Rebuild
http://tatari.byethost33.com/
>Melty Bread: Melty Blood fansite
www.meltybread.com/forums/
>TMdict: Glossaries from works by Type-Moon
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan: A small Type-Moon site
tsukikan.com/

The past >>19382959

>> No.19425525

Release when?

>> No.19425532

>>19425525
This year.

>> No.19425537

Passionlip is cute. CUTE!

>> No.19425574

I'm about to start a HGW to wish for a Mahoyo translation, wish me luck

>> No.19425596

>>19425574
Good luck.

>> No.19425612

>>19425574
Instead of wishing for a Mahoyo translation why don't you wish for Japanese fluency? That way you can read Tsuki R whenever it comes out.

>> No.19425622
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>>19425537
She really is adorable, and one of the most emotional characters Nasu has ever written.
It's too bad so few people are willing to look past her boobs though.

>> No.19425735

>>19425612
Because that is less fun.

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>> No.19426101

>>19425622
I'm willing to look into them if you understand where I'm coming from

>> No.19426354
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You know, in theory, hearing secondary speculation from people who are experiencing FSN for the first time with the anime SHOULD be interesting. But why the fuck are they always so confident in their opinions, despite clearly not understanding some very basic shit about the story? Like, I don't blame them for not having knowledge from the VN, but they often forget a ton of stuff from the incomplete adaptations that they HAVE watched.
Fuck, whoever posted about secondaries last thread re-lit my hate a little bit.

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>> No.19426551

>>19426354
>But why the fuck are they always so confident in their opinions, despite clearly not understanding some very basic shit about the story?
Because 9/10 they're ironic weebs and seeing the super serious Fate/Zero makes them turn their nose up at Stay Night cause "muh high school setting". Never mind the fact that it isn't a high school setting and that Shirou stops going to school about halfway through the routes.

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>>19426354
Sorry, youtube keeps giving me these retarded looking suggestions and I needed to talk about it or otherwise I would have wasted time of my life checking the retarded videos

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>>19426570
It's okay, you got me to listen to the HF OST and appreciate how fucking awesome it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQqv9BH1YXU

God I hope Tsukihime gets this treatment.

>> No.19426640

>>19426570
Let me guess, the person who makes this garbage is the "I haven't read the source material but I have read the wiki article on it so I can explain this to you (who probably already has read the source material) and gets most of it wrong" kind of guy.

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Amari-san to properly bless the thread!

>> No.19426673

>>19426570
Isn't his powers fueled by autism? Archer is so autistic that the universe looks at him in disgust and ignore him when he tries to pull up stuff?

>> No.19426680

>>19426671
Thank you Amari-san.

>> No.19426691

>>19426570
Fuck me, I've been getting that same vid recommended to me for the longest. I don't even watch anime reviews or shit.

>> No.19426772

>>19426586
I hope not, I would rather have remixes of the no doubt 10/10 nightime atmosphere music the remake will have
https://youtu.be/c1sZ2q1ZFUY
https://youtu.be/nXnRjzVzB4c
https://youtu.be/_zJBSNM77rQ

>> No.19426795

>>19426772
Perfection.
It depends on the composer really. But when I said "same treatment" I was talking about getting a high quality anime adaptation in general.
Though Kajiura can do fantastic atmospheric music, I am a bit tired of her style. But I still wouldn't have picked someone else for HF.

>> No.19426808

I would have preferred the person who did the Mahoyo and UBW soundtracks. At least he actually remixed tracks from the VN.

>> No.19426812

>>19426795
Pretty sure KATE works in the Tsukihime Remake soundtrack too

>> No.19426857
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>>19426808
I don't consider that a necessity for a good soundtrack. What works in a VN may not work as well in a movie. Plus, most of his remixes were in the very last episode, just to nail those iconic moments.

>>19426812
Do we know that for sure yet? I think it'd be good. But I also wouldn't mind if they brought back Toshiyuki Oomori for the anime adaptation, the soundtrack was easily the best part of the first anime.

>> No.19426889

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJXw0lL5-vA is probably my favorite TM track

>> No.19426918

>>19426857
Kate works on every major Type-Moon release, why wouldn't he work on the remake? Last I checked he was working on FGO OST.

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>>19426857
>I don't consider that a necessity for a good soundtrack
To me it's not really about the soundtrack, it's about how well it fits. The HF ost was nice, but it felt too much like Zero and didn't really give me Heaven's Feel vibes.

Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1G0Bp9we8Y

Trespassing would have been a beautiful remix.

>most of his remixes were in the very last episode
I heard that producers don't actually control when and how their stuff is played. They just make the music.

>> No.19426953

>>19426918
Did they work on Mahoyo? Either way Fukasawa was the main composer there, so they might not get the spotlight.

>> No.19426977

>>19426953
Kate did the SOL and tension tracks in Mahoyo.

>> No.19426996

>>19426977
Cool.

>> No.19427004

>>19426953
>>19426977
Here are some examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6XyYSrHpQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq5eRL56AmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRPHFrog7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGq2-SWGApM

>> No.19427024

>>19426977
He also did this one, it's one of my favorites in Mahoyo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1X7RNPk5MY

>> No.19427037

>>19427004
>>19427024
God Mahoyo is fucking god tier, stop making me wanna read a partial and making me sad that TM doesn't make this kind of stuff anymore.

>> No.19427051

>>19427037
It's never too late to start learning Japanese anon.

>> No.19427064

>>19427004
>>19427024
shit this is great
translation when
Tsukihime Remake when
More Type moon VNs fucking when
Also out of curiosity, is Mahoyo just as "high budget" as Hollow Ataraxia?
because HA had loads of CGs and sprites to make the scenes look as dynamic as possible
It's hard to believe it's 13 years old when it looks so much better than many other recent VNs

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>>19427051
If they gave us some news on the Remake I'd be a bit more motivated. I'd definitely learn as much as possible before release at least. I've always been more of a "cram it at the last minute" rather than "study at a leisurely pace" guy.

>> No.19427086

>>19427064
>is Mahoyo just as "high budget" as Hollow Ataraxia?
Mahoyo's budget blows HA out of the water with the amount of detail and animation they put into it. Look at this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU-27H4XNAc

>> No.19427104

>>19427086
This too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLf9oWUe2fc

>> No.19427108
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>>19427086
>that fucking spin
holy shit

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>>19427086
>>19427104
>tfw have intentionally been avoiding all the highly praised Mahoyo action webms and videos for years, because I wanna experience it with context when I read it for the first time
I already feel bad for spoiling some of the OST, I've listened to Five and Aoko's theme a lot.

>> No.19427156

>>19427119
You're missing out, the scene where Five first plays is phenomenal.

>> No.19427183

>>19427086
>>19427104
Holy SHIT that's fucking phenomenal.

Tsukihime Remake fucking WHEN?!

>> No.19427191

>>19427183
When Nasu gets tired of swimming in FGO money. AKA never

>> No.19427210

>>19427183
Don't expect any release info until after HF Movies and probably Lostbelt and EoR 2 maybe.

>> No.19427966

>>19427183
2 birrion dorrars for FGO.

Tsukihime Remake would make ten thousand bucks of NEET money at most.

Think about it.

>> No.19428662

PEOPLE DIE WHEN THEY ARE KILLED

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I want some official Ciel tattoo art.
The fact that they were hidden in the beach episode was a crime.

>> No.19428708

Is the F/A anime fun at least? I could use some more Nasu in my system, even if it's trashy.

>> No.19428745

>>19428708
Some good bits of animation in the last few episodes, but the most interesting characters of the series get supporting roles and barely show up. Worth watching if you're starved for Fate content I suppose.

>> No.19428750

>>19428708
But it's not Nasu at all, it's Higashide.
It could be fun if you're in it for big dumb Servant fights. It doesn't really have much interesting unique lore, whatever bits were in the novel were mostly cut in the anime.
It does have some remarkable sakuga, but visually the designs and color pallette look like shit 99% of the time.

Just try it out, like any anime it's better to watch an episode or two instead of asking for opinions.

>> No.19428829

>>19425498
So tell me about this Empire of Dirt thing. What's this all about?

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>>19428829
https://twitter.com/maple_LuwenWS/media
It is a doujin eroge in development since 2016.
For what it is it has good potential.
Though the main worry is it being in development hell, similar to recent TM projects.

>> No.19429064

>>19428673
Why is Ciel considered to be the WORST heroine in Moon Princess, again?

>> No.19429107

>>19428879
This shit will never look as good as mahoyo

>> No.19429202

>>19429107
Mahoyo is taking it way too far, it lacks the budget, technical capability and production crew.
It is a fan game.

>> No.19429205

>>19427104
>We want the Nanoha audience.

The absolute state of Type Moon.

>> No.19429223

>>19429202
They're putting in more effort than TM at least.
TM started as a low budget doujin group, after all.

>> No.19429228

>>19429205
This is a pretty dumb post.

>> No.19429233

>>19429223
Meant for >>19429107

>> No.19429242

>>19429223
That is the main thing, it has far more effort in it than GO, and that is considering it is mainly using GO shitters.
Though it has a more traditional Fate setting.
And it has proper VN aspects.
And porn, never forget the porn.
At the very least it will do that right.

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Ciel that's too much curry!

>> No.19429255

>>19429242
>it has far more effort in it than GO
Which means nothing. I'd probably rate it Apo tier. Or even Extra tier, since it's using some of the shittiest servants.

>> No.19429279

>>19429255
It is dumb to rate it at all off a demo, I just appreciate what it is doing and that it is doing it competently.

>> No.19429343

>>19429279
>It is dumb to rate it at all off a demo
Not at all, because that's what a demo is for.

>> No.19429355

You all know it's gonna be shit and it will add nothing to the characters since it's pretty much a fanfic.

>> No.19429555

>>19429355
>stating the obvious
Now you're just being mad for the sake of being mad.

>> No.19429632

>>19428879
>Vancouver, British Columbia

>> No.19429801

>>19429355
No shit.
Just because something isn't canon doesn't mean it is shit.
>>19429343
There are many missing aspects of the game withheld for the demo, right now the UI and battle mechanics are being reworked along with additional relationship stuff.
>>19429632
Take from that what you will.

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Nasu has cute handwriting, as expected of a woman.
I like the spooky Hassan mask on the top left.

>> No.19431381

>>19428708
Not until the last 5 episodes desu, it's a clusterfuck and very un-nasu.
Jeanne runs around a populated town in full armor yelling at normal people at one point.

>> No.19432450

I have nothing better to do so I will record myself reading Nasushit. Give suggestions, but keep in mind that I'm an ESL.
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1qSZWUQvmaU

>> No.19432463

I want to be Ciel's personal toilet or make her my toilet!

>> No.19432467

>>19430952
kys.

>> No.19432480
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>>19432450

>> No.19432504

>>19432480
https://vocaroo.com/i/s06Z8JByJFiX

>> No.19432857

>>19429254
That body was certainly made out of curry.

>> No.19432866

>>>/vg/221278845

>> No.19432873

>>19432866
I really like it. Shirou cooking motivated me to start cooking in the first place. Plus, best girl Medusa is in it.
Do not link to /vg/ ever again though.

>> No.19432874

>>19432866
It has a pretty artstyle.

>> No.19432879

>>19432866
It's comfy, needs more Shinji.

>> No.19432880

>>19432873
>>>/vg/221279852

>> No.19432881

>>19432857
Smelly curry!

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>>19427086
Mahoyo also has the absolute perfect aesthetic out of any TM work, that 80s gothic (I dunno if that's actually what it would be called)

>> No.19432887

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>> No.19432935

>>19432866
For what it is it is whatever.
But it is a waste, just empty fanservice.
It isn't even good for cooking autism.

>> No.19433002

>implying Fate is DEEP
No, the problem is you. The pretentious fuck who thinks TM is anything more than power level faggotry and waifu faggotry. This was the core of Fate, more important than even the characters. Case in point, there was never any character development WITHOUT powerlevels. Shirou fights Archer, it's all powerlevels. The character conflict is in the background. The fight ends with Shirou remaining steadfast in his beliefs, but becoming STRONGER, gaining Archer's experience. That was the REAL point of the fight. To make Shirou stronger, to raise his power level. The character conflict was just the garnish on top.

That fight, it's followed by the conflict with Gilgamesh. Where he accepts he's a fake, his ideals are borrowed, but even so, he won't waver. But that is just the backdrop. The REAL point of the fight was to make Shirou even stronger, capable of using UBW. Fuck, even the SEX SCENES were about power level. They FUCKED to get STRONGER. Power levels are everything in every part of Type-Moon.

On the other hand, we have waifufaggotry. Waifus, they get to be weak, yet because they have tits and a vagina, they get a free pass. That's the other appeal of Type-Moon. Waifus. For evidence, just look at Rin. She's utterly useless. Her character is just a generic tsundere. FUCKING NO ONE CARES. Because she has tits, albeit small ones, and a vagina. She gets to be more celebrated than Archer or Shirou.

This is the reason why Fate/Extra's protagonist was a failure. Hakuno, he doesn't fight. He lacks power level. Thus, EVERYONE universally hates him. But his female counterpart has tits and vagina, she's super popular. In Type-Moon, you either have become strong, or get tits, otherwise you're useless.

Fate is, was, and always will be about power levels and waifu faggotry. The problem with Type-Moon is your pretentious fucks who pretend there's more to this franchise.

>> No.19433015

>>19433002
Stale pasta.

>> No.19433053

>>19433002
Well, there is more about franchise. Nasu sucks at plot and character development( funny how what we are told about a characters are drastically different from what we a shown about them), but at least he managed to create vast, rich and interesting world of modern fantasy.

>> No.19433151

>>19432886
>Koyama put more work into Mahoyo than Takeuchi ever did on any piece of art
>It's swept under the rug and people probably know Mahoyo less than they do about Tsukihime
It's kinda sad

>> No.19433566

Post your idea for new Type Moon series

>> No.19433693
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Hm...

>> No.19433756

>>19433693
wtf i hate nasu now

>> No.19433788

>missed a vocaroo anon
Fuck, that could've been fun.

>>19433693
Very forced, clearly just based off of what Nasu said about Shinji and Saionji.
I'm glad Junichi Suwabe gets to be in Ikuhara's new anime project next year, hope it's a character similar to Akio.

>> No.19433817

>>19433788
I'm still here.

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>>19433817
Try this.

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Or just this.

>> No.19433858
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>> No.19433869

>>19433693
Shouldn't Shinji be next to Anthy's brother (forgot his name)?

>> No.19433894

>>19433852
https://vocaroo.com/i/s11raE6gDaOF
I don't know much about computer terminology, so I don't think I could do the first one justice.

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>>19433894
Cute.

>> No.19434039

>>19433912
Scary reaction pic to be using.

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>> No.19434792

>>19433846
Does anyone have the screencap of this that also shows the "DELETE THIS" tier reply it got?

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>>19434792
Yeah, always funny to look back at this for a laugh.

>> No.19434988

>>19434815
Absolute classic

>> No.19434992
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CIEL IS CUTE

CUTE!

>> No.19434997

>>19434992
I want to kiss her thighs!

>> No.19435005

>>19434997
Indirect kiss with Arc!

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Ilya with the Alter-Ego card installed!

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>>19435542
H-Hot...

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For no particular reason I made this

>> No.19436509

>>19436483
That's cool.
The sprite is definitely better than Takeuchi's Tsukihime art style though.

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>>19436509
How dare you insult Takeuchi

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>>19436509
Yeah, I was going to try and use these instead but I'm not good enough to draw the rest of their bodies.

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>> No.19436577

>>19436548
Nah, that looks much cooler anyway. After Melty Blood, my favorite Takeuchi art is probably his FSN and Kara no Kyoukai illustrations, which that sprite is very similar too.
The Tsukihime style backgrounds are just so old and busted, I really value good background art in VNs. Perfect for a "demake" though.

>> No.19436583

>>19436577
For some reason I like the Tsukihime backgrounds. I think it's because they're faded and kind of unimpressive, it draws your attention to the characters.

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>>19436583
I see where you're coming from, but disagree. Even the CGs in Tsukihime lack any background detail, they're just used to draw the characters in unique positions. But great job on the Mahoyo pics.

>> No.19436648

>>19436622
Don't get me wrong detailed backgrounds are good. Those ones in the remake do look great.

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It's dated, but I still think this background is pretty rad.

>> No.19436714

>>19436696
Weirdly cartoonish, but fits the scene just right. I don't think it'd have worked in original Tsukihime.

>> No.19436719

I really like Fate Strange/Fake

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>>19436719
It's cool but taking forever.
I want more american madness with assorted Type-Moon references, Narita-san.

>> No.19436734

>>19436719
Me too.

>> No.19436748

>>19436733
>>19436734
I started reading it because of Gilgamesh and Enkidu but stayed because of Dumas and Alcides

>> No.19436750

>>19436719
It's literally the only good Fate related material going on right now, so I like it too.

>> No.19436799

>>19436748
Don't like Alcides, Flatt/Jack are where it's at. And Orlando too.
I'm still very curious about all the mysteries he has set up, like Sigma and St. Germain

>>19436750
Case Files has some interesting lore stuff and often dips into non-Fate shit. Strange Fake is more about references and connections. I will say that SF has a better premise and characters overall though.

>> No.19436840

>>19436799
Alcides is too emo honestly, but I think the only reason why he was turned into an Avenger because Archer Herc's powerlevels are really high, almost on par or probably stronger than Gilgamesh.

I agree with Jack as well. This Jack is way better written compared to his Apocrypha counterpart.

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>>19436840
>almost on par or probably stronger than Gilgamesh.

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I hope my cute little sister will have a good treatment in the remake

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look at how big her forehead is

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>> No.19437742

>>19437671
I want to cum on her forehead!

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>faggots say they hate FGO before Camelot without bothering to read existing translations
>get to it, and suddenly that cancer of a game is totally fine because it has Atlas lore, and Primate Murder is used in Time Temple

I fucking hate that there are people who "hate FGO" without actually caring that much to learn about it (unless they just hate gacha/mobage in general, which is fine). I hate FGO for its entire setting, format, and impact it's had in the last 3 years. The existence of lore expansion and connections to non-Fate works doesn't change anything about its core issues. In fact, it's a problem that a lot of cool ideas and concepts keep getting wasted on a trash game, and looks like that will continue to be the case even more so in Lostbelt (fucking Wandering Sea in a mobile game 3 days from now).

>> No.19438030

>>19437713
She's clearly holding a turd in the top right one! lewd!

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But seriously, fuck uninformed people and those who go "Tsukihime Remake when? FGO is so shit, even though I spend hundreds of dollars supporting it!".
Literally the same kind of people who browse /fgog/ and defend FGO trash as a whole because the story has a couple of moments they like. The same people who like that it's ALMOST like a real VN, as if that's good enough for Type-Moon.
I hate shit eaters and apologists so much.

>> No.19438530

But all that rage aside this art is cool

https://twitter.com/mitiranora/status/1018691816307097600

Non-Fateshit spin-offs literally never, thanks GOshit.

>> No.19438544

>>19438513
It's time to let go... for your own sake

>> No.19438550

>>19438544
Fuck off.

>> No.19438717

>>19438550
What's up man? What do you have to gain from such a negative attitude?

>> No.19438797

I can't wait for Nasu to make himself a Servant. I bet he'd be Mooncancer, considering he has become the cancer that's killing Type-Moon.

>> No.19438935

>>19437713
The bottom swimsuit design looks like a watermelon, which is damn cute. Not that senpai isn't always cute, of course.

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>> No.19439548

>>19439496
I love Medusa

>> No.19439567

>>19438797
>imply TM has any other competent writers save for when Urobuchi comes along

>> No.19439588

Prove me wrong: GO's story would be significantly less shit if they cut out or rewrote everything between Fuyuki and Camelot.

>> No.19439602

>>19439588
It would be better, but still uninspired trash at its core like it's always been and continues to be.
It bugs me that people try to "fix" FGO or try to make it better, when it will always be a gacha mobage with a self-insert and a focus on Servants.

>> No.19439698

>>19439496
>Sakura
futoi!

>> No.19439877

>>19439698
She's a big girl.

>> No.19439921

That's it, I'm fapping to Sakura!

>> No.19439939

>>19439588
You'll have to add EoR 1, 2 and 4 to that too.

>> No.19440754

New VN when.
Church agent / DAA spin-off game when.

>> No.19440762

I'm still waiting for a VN where an autistic Japanese highschooler fights the Types.

>> No.19440924

>>19438717
I definitely have nothing to gain from embracing FGO for its occasional (rare) "good parts". That game brings me no joy whatsoever.
If I hate it like I naturally have for years, at least there'll be some satisfaction if/when Type-Moon releases something remotely good again.

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Here's a rune magic table thing like there was for Mystic Eyes the other day.

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Cute

>> No.19441897

>>19440924
You act like the only things you're allowed to feel towards it are either love or hate.

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i thought she was an s?

>> No.19442181

I'm lying in bed
I can't fall asleep so I begin to search my thoughts
What's keeping me up?
Why can't I sleep?
What am I missing?
Then it hits me
I never read Akiha or Ciel's routes after all these years

>> No.19442230
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>>19441897
I understand most people have "mixed feelings", but that's exactly what TM and DW want you to feel. Like you're not sure about it being a shitty gacha game, but you still look forward to more TM lore, and Nasu stories, and shitty Servants in it.
I say screw that, I hate the entire concept of it and its original characters, and most of all I hate the way it sucks away interesting Type-Moon lore and other non-Fate franchises into a trashy format. I'd be totally fine with it and even enjoy it as a decent gacha spin-off about Servants, but the fact that it's been the main project and main source of lore for 3 years is disgusting. It's absolutely nothing like F/SN, or Tsukihime, or Kara no Kyoukai, or any of the things that actually made me like TM in the first place. The fact that people excuse this with their "mixed feelings" makes me really hate FGO defenders.

>>19442181
Do it faggot. You won't regret it. You might as well re-read the whole thing if it's been so many years.

>> No.19442242

>>19434815
What is going on in this picture?..

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>>19442045
Not sure what gave you that impression, she's always been an exhibitionist but definitely submissive.

>> No.19442260

>>19442242
Back in 2014, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia's translation got released to the public from the clutches of annoying fan translators, by the sacrifice of our savior gamecreater16.
The h-scenes were some weird google translate shit, but it was otherwise 100% finished.

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>>19442260
>2014
There's no fucking way it's been that long

>> No.19442287

>>19442230
Imagine if someone vehemently hated fighting games but liked TM. He hates that there is lore locked because the shit he hates in Melty Blood. So he starts hating the lore in Melty Blood because he's mixing his hate for the medium and the content. What would you tell him? That he's right to say everything about Melty Blood is shitty? What if you then tell him that you liked aspects of it and he responded by telling you he hates your guts? What then? You're nothing but a shitty defender of Melty Blood after all.

So this is my point. From here on out you're not allowed to like anything from Metly Blood however tangential. If you ever bring up Archetype Earth, Sion, Tatari, most of what we know of the Atlas institute, the Black Barrel Replica, etc. I will call you a detestable "person" and reminder you that you're no more than a Metly Blood defender.

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>>19442276
Yes it has lad, almost 4 years. It was long before the outpour of FGO cancer, when everyone was just excited for the ongoing UBW anime and already hyping HF.
And we got actual Tsukihime news months later.

>>19442287
Your analogy makes no sense. Melty Blood was never seen as, or treated as, the core of Type-Moon. It never received some special treatment or made millions of dollars, it never prevented works from other franchises to come out, it never fully grabbed Nasu's attention and gave him an excuse to stop writing his own full works, it never attracted a whole different audience that only cared about Servants and caused every single Type-Moon work to cater to them, it didn't finalize the decline of Nasu's works from interesting protagonists, to bland self-inserts all the time.

Melty Blood is exactly what FGO SHOULD have been, ideally. A good spin-off that people who are into that genre would love, that provides some cool new lore and characters. Not something that revolutionizes the entire fucking franchise and monopolizes Type-Moon as whole, for years.
Fuck, even the original Melty Blood was more of a VN than FGO trash, with a story told in full NVL, strange as that is to think about.

>> No.19442376

>>19442260
ty

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I like saber in a maid outfit

>> No.19442437

>>19442426
I like her exposed back.

>> No.19442460

>>19438015
What I hate is EOPs going nuts over the "my waifu xdDDDD" while not bothering to check story translations even when you translate the story for them and now they go OHHHH iT"s PRIMATE MRUDER TSUKIHIME REFERENCE XDDD I READ THIS ON THE WIKI

NASU JUST PLEASE REVISIT NOTES AND END MY EXISTENCE

>> No.19442482

>>19442287
To summarize my reply, my issue with FGO isn't just having cool lore locked in a medium I dislike, that would've been good if it were the spin-off it should've been.
My main issue is with the entire massive impact it had on Type-Moon as a whole and all of their future works, despite being the opposite of what made TM appealing in the first place. Melty Blood never even came close to doing that or tried to do that. TM wants you to be fine with FGO as a "major project" despite it being lower effort and less focused than most of their previous works, because there are still parts of it that are "not so bad", so you'll be okay with TM going in a much shitter direction that they have potential for, and people won't demand actual VNs, or actual good games, or actual non-Fate works. The number of people who care about that is getting lower and lower as Fate becomes a mobage franchise.
Fuck, I know people who'd be totally fine with just Tsukihime characters in FGO shit, but no Remake ever (though they'd still complain about REMAKE NEVER EVER, but keep eating up FGO trash).

>>19442460
I agree, people who pretend to care despite being 2 years behind, so obviously they never gave that much of a fuck. Just mobagefags who are into Fate and TM as a new fad.
Though if Nasu "revisits Notes" in FGO only, I'd be pretty pissed.

>> No.19442497

>>19442482
Ufotable OVA in 2020 cap this

>> No.19442510

>>19442497
What, Notes? No way. Doesn't have enough mainstream appeal.

>> No.19442515

>>19442497
Notes?
Would be fucking perfection as a short movie, yeah. Maybe even show Ado Edem slicing Type Jupiter in half as a backstory segment, and showing up again during the end credits after Godo dies to kill Type-Saturn.

I want this as a buffer between HF and their Tsukihime R anime.

>> No.19442524

>>19442510
It's basically Evangelion but in Nasuverse. It has plenty mass appeal. Cute girls, ridiculous powerlevels, impeding doom, etc.

>> No.19442539

>>19442510
A one-off OVA doesn't really need much mass appeal, isn't that the point of them?

>> No.19442617

Maybe we can meme Notes into existence if we commission enough artists to draw the cutest alien Type-Venus to make it mainstream

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>>19442617
I think that'd just get her into FGO shit and nothing else, sadly.
I'd welcome any comissions you make though.

>> No.19442649

>>19442617
Blonde Iri is a gross hippie, no one likes her!

>> No.19442687

Cute girl ORT when?

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>visit /fgog/
>talking about Tsukihime
>but only for power level trash

Hilarious.

>> No.19442925

I want to be in a relationship with an Ultimate One

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>>19442925
I'll take this one!

>> No.19443076

How interested would anyone here be in a Nasuverse (likely Holy Grail War) tabletop RPG?

>> No.19443124

>>19443076
I've never played any tabletop RPGs, but the setting seems pretty much made for it.

>> No.19443261

>>19443076
Considering Nasu ripped off DnD with F/SN's mechanics, sure.

>> No.19443974

>>19443076
I remember someone doing an actual Nasuverse system RPG back in BL

>> No.19446012

>>19443261
>DnD
>T. I have never played a tabletop RPG before
Try White Wolf. He even reskinned the WoD lore.

>> No.19446243

>>19446012
I've always maintained that the Nasuverse is a better WoD mage setting that any of the actual WoD magic settings, although maybe he just copied VtM

>> No.19446446

>>19443076
I was always interesting in tabletop but I never had any friends. I would totally do it though.

>> No.19446798

I love Arcueid Brunestud!

>> No.19446982
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Anybody else not really digging the direction Fate has gone to?
the VN was great,F/Z was enjoyable,even some games like Fate/Extra and Unlimited Codes were good.

Nowadays you got Apocrypha and its adaptation which are just mediocre wastes of a potentially good setting,FGO which turned sort of acceptable for a mobage during the Camelot-Babylon chapters but then went full retard while also being the new,annoying face of the franchise.

And while the whole mooncell setting Extra had going for it was already getting a bit tiring in CCC and it still ended up being an interesting sequel,it just feels overdone with the musou,its sequel,and now Last Encore.
The only thing I don't mind are the ufotable adaptations of UBW and HF,although we'll have to see how they handle the latter with the last days of the route being packed with iconic scenes.

What's next for the franchise,a FGO anime?
maybe Fate/Strange Fake getting adapted?
I pretty much know nothing about it so I don't even know if it would be good.

>> No.19447017

>>19446982
Anon, this whole general is centered around those same feelings.
I agree that ufotable are the only ones doing something good with the franchise, by adapting old material from when TM was good. I also look forward to the last Case Files volume.
For anime, I think Strange Fake is quite likely to get adapted since that's been heavily requested, but they might wait years until the novels are done. Prototype Fragments may also get adapted by A-1 Pictures or something.
I don't think there will be a FGO anime, just new year's specials. If there is one, I hope it's really shit like those specials, shit eating fans would buy it anyway.

>> No.19447113

>>19446982
Probably a FGO anime, more than likely it will just be short OVAs to supplement the game like Moonlight Lostroom instead of a proper length anime. Nasu buried any hopes of a proper Extra/CCC adaptation with LE. If Narita ever finishes F/SF then sure, if Aniplex really wanted to adapt it they could make F/SF S1 with the first 4 volumes. Considering how hot F/SF was at Animejapan this year it wouldn't be a bad move. Realistically I can see a Case Files anime in the near future since it's ending soon, I'm not sure about Fragments since I don't read it and I refuse to read Labyrinth despite owning a copy. I would really like a Koha-Ace anime though.

>> No.19447152

>>19447113
>Koha-Ace anime
>cuts out all Tsukihime characters
>Nobunaga and Okita are the MCs

>> No.19447339

>>19447152
>Koha-Ace minus Koha
It scares me that I can see TM doing this.

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cute

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>>19447607
A very moe hobo

>> No.19447704

>>19438015
You gonna write another 17k word fanfic about it?

>> No.19447756

>>19447704
Why would you assume I'm the autistic BL faggot?
I never even made an account there.

>> No.19448001

>>19447607
>>19447624
Route never.

>> No.19448023
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Mashu!

>> No.19448044

>>19448023
Dumb eggplant. Mashu is ok, I like her more than most of the servants in GO I have.

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Any news on the tranlsation status of Mahoutsukai no Yoru?

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I want to marry the Root!

>> No.19448934

>>19448593
Completely dead I think.

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Lostbelt 2 let's go.

I'm most excited for Ophelia and her bunny girl Valkyrie harem.

>> No.19449073

>>19426918
He won the equivalent of a Gold Record for FGO. He was probably very emotional to receive that recognition.

>> No.19449115

>>19439588
Fuyuki was ok as a prologue, Okeanus was also ok and America was good and fun adventure. The manga so far (josei at least) was doing an ok job.

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>>19439588
Prove ME wrong. GO would be much better if it was an actual VN with MC who has an actual character arc and isn't a self-insert.

And also only Nasu writes for it.

>> No.19449129

>>19448935
Of fuck, there's a PV already?
Definitely coming out after the stream then.

>>19449073
Yeah, shame that's all thanks to GOshit's popularity and isn't even as good or iconic as his work on Nasu's good stuff.

>> No.19449136

>>19449129
It's doubly funny cause I'm pretty sure all KATE did was remix previous tracks. Same for James.

>> No.19449137

>>19449125
You're changing the entire essence of the game and basically saying "What if trash wasn't trash?".
Yeah, it might be good and at least I'd be into it as a real Nasu work and real VN, but at that point you're not even talking about FGO anymore.

>> No.19449161

>>19449115
Those are only "okay" if you consider all the mediocre post-Camelot shit to be good.

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What do you mean by "it is believed", you fucking hack, you're the one who wrote the goddamn thing.

>> No.19449171

>>19449162
>he doesn't know that Nasu is just a pen name that numerous ghost writers use

>> No.19449178

>>19449162
>you're the one who wrote the goddamn thing.
It's modern TM bro, Nasu doesn't write anything except blog posts.

>> No.19449231

>>19449178
savage

>> No.19449265

>>19449162
I-It's intended to encourage the reader's imagination, he's not a hack, OK?

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I just wanted to say that I really like Medusa.

>> No.19449530

>>19449495
I like Medusa's sisters

>> No.19449609

>>19448935
>they're highlighting children and the inhabitant NPCs who just want a chance to live again
Like I though, as much as GOfags praised the ending scene of LB1, it really is all set up so they can have an easy tear jerker at the end of ever chapter when you kill everyone there, regardless of how incompetent the writer is. This will be the case for the rest of LBs, especially now that they realized their shit eater fans praise any sadness as "good writing". What a boring trash fire FGO is.

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>>19449609
>wah wah GO
Yawn, not even something actually interesting to complain about.

You can do better.

>> No.19449660

>>19449652
You're right that FGO is not interesting, but why shouldn't we discuss the most recent piece of TM news?
Stop dismissing criticism because you don't like it, especially if you have nothing else to post.

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>>19449660
I'm not saying you can't complain about, but at least complain about something interesting about GO.

Saying that they're reusing normal people trying to live their lives in a dying world is just dumb. No shit, normal people exist in the Lostbelts, not to mention that Nasu reuses shit all the time. You're gonna have to pick something else to complain about there.

I mean christ, I don't care much for it either, but at least contain your seething and post something new. I can't recall how many times you've posted about how GO is shit but people will eat it up anyway wah wah wah.

>> No.19449743

>>19449696
But this isn't Nasu, it's a recurring plot device that will be used by every writer in Lostbelt. They just added "obligatory emotional impact" to their shitty formula because nips were all over Dr.Roman. It speaks a lot to just how much of a factory line game this shit is, it's definitely worth pointing out.
And seriously, pretending like only one person complains about FGO and its fans, in this general of all places? If you don't like to hear negativity towards it, just don't come here.

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>>19449696
And for the record, shitting on FGO makes for a pretty small percentage of my posts in this general.

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>>19449743
>But this isn't Nasu
I never said it was. I said Nasu also reuses the same shit over and over again.

>They just added "obligatory emotional impact" to their shitty formula because nips were all over Dr.Roman
Or...maybe...It's more interesting to have world filled with actual people rather than just the enemies meant to be defeated.

>And seriously, pretending like only one person complains about FGO and its fans
Point out where I even remotely gave that impression, because I even compared you to those anons above. Unless you ARE those anons above. And once again, since you can't read, I never said you couldn't, I said complain about something new because you're literally just saying the same shit everytime.

>If you don't like to hear negativity towards it, just don't come here
Yes, the reason why I'm telling you to get more material is because I can't handle it when people talk bad about GO. It's not like I've talked bad about GO.

But oh man, your argument sure falls flat considering these are my posts:
>>19449125
>>19449178

>>19449796
Doesn't change much when you pretty much just copy paste the same shit every time.

>> No.19449879

>>19449813
>I said Nasu also reuses the same shit over and over again.
Okay? It's not even remotely the same as this, Nasu re-uses concepts and character outlines in works that end up feeling very unique and new. You're comparing a series of chapters in the same mobile game to Nasu's entire work.

>Or...maybe...It's more interesting to have world filled with actual people rather than just the enemies meant to be defeated.
Camelot has that. The people in Lostbelt aren't just there to fill the world with interesting NPCs, but for all the added tragedy at the end. That's what this whole thing was about, I never said having NPCs is a bad thing, it's much better than a shitty Servantfest, but the way they're used really speaks to how the nature of the game hasn't changed at all. They just realized "fuck, we can't deliver those cheap sad moments with Servants, because no one gives a fuck when a Servant dies anymore since they're re-summoned and recall their memories whenever convenient. And not everyone can get an "erased from throne" treatment". Better add more humans to the mix!"

>Point out where I even remotely gave that impression
>I can't recall how many times you've posted about how GO is shit
>literally pretending you know the exact person you're talking to and what their posting history is

It's cool that you agree with me and made posts very similar to my own opinions, but in that case I don't understand why you felt the need to complain about mine. The ones you linked are also very simplistic jabs at FGO/Nasu, recycling stuff that's been said a million times, someone could've easily said the same shit you're complaining about to you, so your whole attitude is pretty hypocritical.

>Doesn't change much when you pretty much just copy paste the same shit every time.
>he says after linking two of his posts where he copy pasted shit I've said
Wooaaah.
At least the post you're complaining about is referring to news, brand new content we just got hours ago. It's not my fault that FGO keeps following its predictably shitty path that we've had plenty of time to talk about, but still worth pointing out all the ways in which it fails to be good.
And as I said, I don't copy paste my own shit ever, and most of my posts in this general are not about FGO at all. I come here mostly to get away from that trash.

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Now shut up about the cancer of TM.

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>>19449879
>Nasu re-uses concepts and character outlines in works that end up feeling very unique and new
I'm gonna go with no on that. Rather, the more he uses them the more bland they get. We went from Fujino to Kohaku to Sakura to Mashu. I'm not even going to go into his degrading MCs.

>Camelot has that
Okay and why does it need to ONLY be Camelot that has that?

>literally pretending you know the exact person you're talking to and what their posting history is
I mean not really, considering I've been treating you as a different guy from the above posters, but okay.

>but in that case I don't understand why you felt the need to complain about mine

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>>19449879
>Nasu re-uses concepts and character outlines in works that end up feeling very unique and new
I'm gonna go with no on that. Rather, the more he uses them the more bland they get. We went from Fujino to Kohaku to Sakura to Mashu. I'm not even going to go into his degrading MCs.

>Camelot has that
Okay and why does it need to ONLY be Camelot that has that?

>literally pretending you know the exact person you're talking to and what their posting history is
I mean not really, considering I've been treating you as a different guy from the above posters, but okay.

>but in that case I don't understand why you felt the need to complain about mine
Probably because there are so many posts complain about it. I will say me singling you out was not cool, but if I adding everyone else's posts then I'd probably just get taken as a shitposter.

>The ones you linked are also very simplistic jabs at FGO/Nasu
True, though I have made genuine posts about how I feel about Nasu's writing, pre and post GO, I didn't really make any this thread. Usually because no one ever replies when I do.

>she says after linking two of her posts where she copy pasted shit I've said
Now who's assuming about posting history. My posts were meant to be examples of me not agreeing with GO, not me copy pasting shit. Much less your own posts? To be honest I don't get what you're saying here and what point you're trying to make.

>but still worth pointing out all the ways in which it fails to be good
I mean yeah, it's fun to point it out, but there's a point where it just becomes tedious. At least with LB 2 we'll actually have something to talk about.

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>>19450102
All I meant was that it's hypocrytical of you to complain about people repeating the same criticisms, when you link posts where you do the exact same. My thoughts and complaints about the LB2 PV were just as genuine as yours.

>At least with LB 2 we'll actually have something to talk about.
Yeah, like all the cool lore that will be wasted on a shit game and how FGO will continue to follow the predictable path of shit. Exactly what I did in my post.

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>>19450168
>like all the cool lore that will be wasted on a shit game and how FGO will continue to follow the predictable path of shit
Yeah! Sigurd is finally here and I'm excited to see what role he'll play in LB 2. Or what's Ophelia's connection to Odin, because she definitely has one.

Looks like we'll be getting a solid set of new servants. I'm genuinely excited about that + the Norse lore.

>> No.19450222

>>19450203
Yeah sorry, long since stopped caring about which wikipedia article some hack writer who's not Nasu turned into a bland character. Especially in FGO.
Wandering Sea and Ophelia have lore interest, but sadly wasted on the worst possible story for them.

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>>19450222
>long since stopped caring about which wikipedia article some hack writer who's not Nasu turned into a bland character
Mm, because Nasu does researched, non-bland servants like Gilgamesh or Medusa, amirite?

Really shows how he's not a hack when he does servants like Nero, yeah?

>> No.19450269

>>19450253
Nah, I don't give a fuck about Servants in general. I just like Nasu's writing, so of course I'd be interested in any of his Servants just for being a Nasu character more than anything.

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>>19450269
Very shallow, but I won't judge.

>> No.19450319

>>19450302
How is it shallow? Being attached to a writer and his style is a lot less shallow than looking forward to something just because it has more of the same Servant gimmick and the same brand name, regardless of contents, if you ask me.

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>>19450319
I find the idea that simply because Nasu writes it-> it is interesting/worth investing into to be shallow. It reads to me that in your eyes Nasu's writing is always good or good enough. Or maybe I read your post wrong.

I don't even really follow GO, just drifting in for the Crypters and servants I like (Bryn, Sigurd).

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>>19450366
>It reads to me that in your eyes Nasu's writing is always good or good enough.
I don't think it is for anyone, but for me? I wouldn't say "good", but I've enjoyed everything from him that I've read/watched, always comes up with cool concepts at the very least. Of course I'll be interested in something from an author that consistently produces content that appeals to me.
Meanwhile, a huge amount of content involving Servants is utter trash to me at this point. I have no particular reason to be excited for more Servants, in a game I despise of all things.

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But seriously, how does one stop hating FGO for the massive negative impact it's had for years on Type-Moon, Nasu, and the fanbase, and simply enjoy its new lore and episodic story and self-insert protagonist?
I unironically wish I could do that. It feels like if I look forward to more FGO, I'll be agreeing with the direction TM is going in, and it's just wrong for a GOfag to ask for real Nasu works. Plus, it's not easy to be excited for it anyway, when I know I won't enjoy it much because of the protagonist, Servant focus, gameplay, and the entire format that really make me hate 99% of it.

>> No.19450464

>>19450450
I dunno but I feel like you rant about it far too much in here

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>>19450431
>I have no particular reason to be excited for more Servants, in a game I despise of all things
I get that. So such Fate content (by writers who don't seem to understand where the actual fun in a HGW lies) is why I have a hard time staying in the TM fandom these days. Barely feel like collecting fanart.

Honestly I fucking hate looking at the remake designs and everything about it and I only learned of TM in 2014. Can't imagine how bad it is for everyone who was waiting far longer.

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>>19450469
Even though I don't really like the designs, it definitely makes me hopeful to look at them at this point. They at least belong to the kind of Type-Moon story I genuinely want. An infinitely better alternative to the present.

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What's your TM conspiracy?

I like to imagine Nasu is a woman. For no particular reason, but just because.

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>>19450525
Based fellow femNasu theorist.
Mine is that Nasu and Takeuchi had a high school romance, and Nasu is really happy that Takeuchi asked him to work together again years later.

>> No.19450598

I completely forgot this board existed and I'm pretty sure this general is where the oldfags ended up so I have to ask, doesn't anyone have an image that's really old of 2 soldiers talking about how their king looks like a girl? I've been searching it for years and I'm sure I saw it in an /a/ thread from at least 5 years ago last time.

>> No.19450609

>>19450573
Nasu and Takeuchi have absolutely given each other brojobs at one point.

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>>19450464
How do you deal with it, then?

>>19450609
I can imagine them just being really good old pals, but maybe that's my innocent mind.
That scene where Shirou imagines Issei in a dress must've been based on a real ocurrence when Nasu crossdressed and Takeuchi thought he looked cute.

>> No.19450652

>>19450525
A butt load of ideas present throughout the later entries came from the scrapped Illya route and a lot of abilities briefly touched upon in FSN were going to be more fully featured there. In Zero, Lancelot v. Gilgamesh was supposed to be a rematch (in a meta sense) of Heracles vs. Gilgamesh in UBW, Reincarnation Pandora/stealing GoB weapons from SF was originally came from this and recycled into Knight of Honor, same with Nine Lives ->Arondight; a series of rapid powerful strikes. Gilles summoning a big monster that everyone had to team up to defeat would've happened with Medea's Golden Fleece summoning a dragon, Medusa would've turned fully into a Gorgon and this was reused for Atalanta, Diarmiud braking/ losing Gae Buidhe so the unhealable wounds would restore an ally would've happened with Cu and Gae Bolg (seriously, those two weapons have indentical powers), and then he would use the Runes more extensively, and a lot of seemingly random scenes in HA were plucked directly from it.

>> No.19450660

>>19450598
look harder, it's been posted frequently on /a/

>> No.19450669

>>19448023
Is no better than Sieg.

>> No.19450691

>>19450660
I've literally been searching it for months and asking everytime I stumble on a Type moon thread on /a/, I know for sure the FGO generals on /vg/ is made of newfags because you are literally the first guy that remembers what I'm talking about and I've asked there multiple times too.

>> No.19450709

>>19450652
Interesting and oddly plasusible. Well, for the most part, some of those examples are a bit of a stretch.
Just another reason Nasu wouldn't write the Illya route, it would have nothing new to offer, he'd need to go back to the drawing board.
Makes me hopeful for the Tsukihime Remake, since he insisted he had enough for a Sacchin route since Plus Disc. However, the fact that his old ideas have been spread and re-purposed over the years (especially recently, in GO shit) may be related to the issues he has in writing the Remake. His old plans don't feel "fresh" enough.

>>19450660
I have no idea what he's talking about either.

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>>19450652
Good enough to be true, god damn.

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>>19450709
This is all I remember about the image, it's been at least 5 years so all of it may be wrong and I'm not sure it's not something I just imagined.
>2 soldiers
>black and white image
>multiple panels
>1 of the 2 is sceptic about Saber being male
>the other is sure his friend is imagining things and Saber is a manly dude
>last panel should be an image of Seiba in a similiar pose as pic relate

>> No.19450912

>>19450739
I've never seen that pic before.

Try booru or Saber's fanclub on BL.

>> No.19450931

>>19450635
>How do you deal with it, then?
I have other hobbies to pre-occupy myself with

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Cute Roa!

https://twitter.com/nilla765/status/1019383817562451974

>> No.19452104

https://twitter.com/gravitypriest/status/1019392616377540609

>> No.19452361

>>19452104
This guy's such a faggot.

>> No.19452809

>>19439939
EoR 4 was fun though.

>> No.19452854

>>19449162
Honestly I lost all faith that Nasu knew the merits of his story when he referred to Shirou as a self-insert.

>> No.19452857

>>19452104
I wasn't angry today until this.

>> No.19453409

>>19449129
Imagine being so butthurt you need to shit on a composer's passionate hard work because it's not working on your shitty porn vampire eroge.
Keep crying. I love your tears.

>> No.19453482

>>19453409
???
You really find their stuff in Grand Order better than all of the iconic, memorable pieces in FSN? I didn't shit on it at all, it's good and approriate for a mobage, but don't delude yourself into thinking that GO wins awards for anything but popularity.
Hell, a lot of the best tracks in FGO are outright just remixes of his FSN tracks.

>> No.19453506

>>19449743
Anon, you can't compare what the nip players feel about Roman and about what they feel about these throwaway characters. Dr. Roman's one of the most popular original characters in FGO who has maintained himself despite not exposure outside FGO (and Chibichuki) after a year and half of his death, and the huge fgo chinese comunity giving tributes to him (which is as big or bigger than Japanese community). Patsy (who I did like as a character) was forgotten in a month, these kids... I give then less than one week because they look generic as hell.

>> No.19453516

>>19452854
He treats him like a self-insert. Otherwise, he wouldn't fall in love or find pleasure in fucking any heroine and would be like Kotomine and his wife.

Shirou concept is interesting but his execution failed because Nasu was forced to write him as an eroge protagonist instead of taking his distortion seriously and have him just feel nothing over women except the pleasure when he helps them to be happy.

>> No.19453564

>>19453506
I agree about that, but the integration of more "emotional" tryhard shit is an obvious result of Roman. A lame attempt to mass produce the good stuff that Nasu writes once in a while, like the rest of FGO shit as a whole.
Besides, you'll certainly see another Roman-like character or two in the later chapters (probably Marisbilly, who'll try to redeem himself for his sins in some "sad" sacrifice). Or just extra lazy and have Roman himself return for easy nip twitter trends.

>> No.19453573

>>19453506
Dr. Roman was easily the best character in part 1.

>> No.19453745

>>19453564
I disagree with Lostbelt 1. Patsy was very different from Roman and his death didn't feel like his at all. The circumstances mixed with his anger and mixed feelings, plus his disgust for his own world. There was also development beforehand which justifies it. I mean he wanted to go for the kill too, but changed his mind. It definitely felt less forced than the obvious kid-emotional-bait angle. When you see Patsy in the trailer, he's howling and fighting, not doing generic poses of pure good children. Patsy was flawed character too which makes him good. The kids feel more of an obvious cheap plot device to make people sad. Like Alice of Extra or Isemi of Prototype/Fragments.

I think Nasu and some writers feel like recreating the loss of Roman with gachabait instead. Look at the Christmas plot with Ereshkigal which Nasu came up with, or then the bait-and-switch with Okita Alter. Or Sanson in Salem in lesser degree. But the problem with those is they are already steady servants so there's real no sense of suspense and feels like cheap theatrics. If you're going to make a character return, wait some time to make the loss feel legitimate at least.

As for Marisbilly, I don't think so? He's imore likely going to be the final boss with a one wing angel transformation as Beast VII as he ascends to godhood. The flags of villain and final boss are too many to dodge. He'll be sympathetic and have some reason, but that's gonna be his role.

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Len!

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What am I doing with my life?

>> No.19453832

>>19453810
Oh, that's fucking cool. I love the Aristoteles in the sky.
Add a "2020" in there.

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>>19453810
Also just noticed Type Saturn there, and I assume those are angels near the bottom.

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>>19453832
>>19453839
Top was supposed to be Six Sisters but Aristoteles would work too

Yes, those are angels near the bottom.

>> No.19453924

>>19453875
The red sky is a cool touch.
Saved.

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>>19450652
Late as fuck, but I think this theory hold merit because you have so many servants that seemed like they were designed with the Stay Night servants in mind, either as a comparison, or as a measure of how far to wank to new servants.

>> No.19454638

Hideyuki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kate

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This is your Valkyrie for tonight.

>> No.19454709

>>19454704
Cute!

>> No.19454828

>>19454704
Looks really boring, honestly.

>> No.19454883

>>19454828
Well, it is Takeuchi. Gotta do your faces and hair at the same exact angle, every time.

>> No.19455183

Is there a realta nua h- patch for the untranslated fsn? I looked around PD AB and nyaa and couldnt find one

>> No.19455236

>>19454704
Super cute!

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Straight up ugly. What are you doing, Koyama? You're way better than this.

>> No.19455298

>>19454704
Looks like a much more generic and vapid version of that Prototype girl.

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>> No.19455335

>>19455292
What the fuck is going on with her tits lmao.

>>19455298
That's the point, I'm pretty sure. Bryn became human so her design is more unique, whereas all the other valkyrie are just automaton.

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>>19455333
Better version. Was wondering when they'd show up in...anything.

>> No.19455401

>>19455390
>>19455333
>Takeuchi did this

so?

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>>19455401
It's a topic because the valkyrie share similar/practically the same design as the valkyrie's that show up in GO, who were also designed by Takeuchi.

Keep up, old man.

>> No.19455452

>>19455292
The lack of Mahoyo 2 has killed Koyama's enthusiasm.

>> No.19455565

>>19455452
Killed my enthusiasm as well.

>> No.19455593

>>19455565
Well, TM in general has killed my enthusiasm. But for Koyama Mahoyo is obviously very dear and personal, as the project he was most involved in. Being hired to draw Aoko clones and bland waifubait like Musashi must not be very exciting, even if he gets paid more.

>> No.19455920

>>19453924
Was actually meant to be Brunestud but figured it works as a red sky as well

>> No.19456023

>>19455920
It immediately made me think Crimson Moon, but seeing as the Sisters and Jupiter were floating there I guessed it was the sky.
As you said, works well as a double meaning.

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>> No.19456183

Why type moon dont make fate/sn remake?

>> No.19456193

>>19456136
Was about to post that.
So there's a Sion Eltnam at Wandering Sea, but different last name.
And as I predicted and feared, you do gotta get through the whole LB2 before even arriving at WS, so nothing substantial in this chapter.
I know the ranting is old, but man FGO really is trash.

>> No.19456248

>>19456136
Can someone explain to me the context around this. I was discussing with someone from here on /fgog/ a couple weeks ago about the liklihood of tsukihime getting the rmake (I insisted it isn't happening because I have no faith in Nasu etc etc) but this seems almost promising. I say almost, because part of me wonders if this is all he's going to do.

>> No.19456289

>>19456248
It's hardly promising, just again a reminder that they know Tsukihime still exists and has fans.
We've gotten plenty of that throughout FGO, Roa in a drama CD, Zepia references, Primate Murder, etc. But even if Sion or other Tsukihime characters directly appear next chapter, at its core it's still a shitty mobage about Servants with its self-insert MC. It's just another tactic they've used to get oldfags to approve of FGO, "it has lore tie-ins to other Nasu stuff, so it's good".
Fuck that, until we get actual news about the actual Remake or some other non-Fate title, there's nothing promising about it.
As for the context, it's the protagonists arriving at the island where the Wandering Sea is based after this new Lostbelt chapter.

>> No.19456299

>>19456248
I’m pretty sure Nasu was taking care of Tsuki2 while Takeuchi was handling Epic of Remnant

I’d say he’s gonna cursor to all of Nasuverse with Cosmos as he starts publishing more works which are non-Fate

>> No.19456308

>>19456193
>different last name
That's her original name before she inherited the Atlas name, dumbass. It's her.

>> No.19456319

>>19456289
AH, thank you, and yeah that's fair, I'm with you there. I think it's honestly terrible how poorly oldfags have been treated with Grand Order, and it's especially disappointing to see that apparently the oldfags in Japan haven't been complaining more about it.
>>19456299
>I’m pretty sure Nasu was taking care of Tsuki2
I, well, let's just say I have much less faith in him than you do then. Until I actually see the thing finished I'm not going to believe it's close because I don't really trust Type Moon at all at this stage. But we'll see.

>> No.19456348

>>19456308
Damn, completely forgot about that.
So I guess in Fate worlds, since there's no reason for her to inherit Atlas with Zepia around, she leaves for the Wandering Sea?
I'd previously assumed they were all like Extra where only her twin lives.

>>19456299
Very optimistic and pretty much what I've hoped for since EoR started, but still no solid evidence.
Pray for TM Ace I guess.

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Yeess, Case Files final case first part will come out at C94, August 12th.

http://typemoon.com/news/2018/4xH_41

So it's not just 1 last volume, but one whole final case. Anyone familiar in the cover besides glasses girl? Sadly the image is pretty tiny.

>> No.19456901

Can someone explain to me how the FUCK are pseudoservsnts summoned? I would understand if it were just a servanf possessing summoner's body but that's not the case since there are no wavers nor tohsakas in chaldea.

>> No.19456908

>>19456901
It's pure, undilluted fanservice bullshit that you shouldn't waste time thinking about. Sad thing is that those fanservice bullshit Servants are consistently used in "serious" parts of the story.

>> No.19456944 [DELETED] 

Can someone explain to me how the FUCK are pseudoservants summoned? I would understand if it was just servant possessing summoner's body but there ain't no tohsakas nor wavers running around in chaldea.

>> No.19457008

>>19456901
I still want to know how Kotomine can be a pseudo-servant since he dies in every timeline after the 5th HGW.

>> No.19457057

>>19456894
Anime when

>> No.19457064

>>19457057
Hopefully after it finishes, maybe he'll get out the 2nd part at C95 like he did with the previous case.
Or maybe never, cause not enough Servants for modern Fateshit audience.

>> No.19457066

>>19457064
There's a marketable saberface

>> No.19457166

i didn't know that ototsugu drew fate porn...
https://exhentai.org/g/87443/686710a1f0/

>> No.19457179
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>SORROW

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>>19457166
Remember when a lot of TM doujin would include references/jokes involving Tsukihime or others, and you knew the artist was aware of TM as a whole and not just bandwagoning with the popularity of a shitty Servant mobage.

>> No.19457184

>>19457179
FOLLOW THE HOLLOW is a pretty catchy title.

>> No.19457238

>>19457064
>>19457182
obsessed

>> No.19457240

>>19457238
Are you new here?

>> No.19457425

>>19456894
could be Touko

>> No.19457489

>>19457240
Not even remotely.

>> No.19458055

>>19455292
The face is even worse, also he is pushing his tit design too far.
Hopefully this nips this in the bud, now the case is settled.

>> No.19458299

I'm surprised no one brought up Illya being an alter ego.

>> No.19458815

>>19425498
Truly the best Saberface.

>> No.19459234

>>19456894
Looks like Old Man Acht is there

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>>19442260
>Back in 2014
Don't do this to me

>> No.19459334

>>19438015
Is there a way to just read the story without getting into shitty gacha? I looked around, but I'm retarded at googling

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>>19450691
This? It's not that old

>> No.19459365

>>19459334
I wouldnt recommend it but there are tons of """""translated""""" playthroughs on youtube and also a lot of raw ones if you can read jap

Also someone please make a new thread 乙

>> No.19459467

>>19459365
Search the catalog.

>> No.19460941

>>19459358
I'm pretty sure it was made before Fate Zero aired so yah, it's old
I love you anyway, I've been searching it for gods knows how long

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