/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Clearly it will be a collaboration you don’t care about that will never get translated

>>19409558
Three days until they announce the release of a new series of onaholes ft. a Bernkastel-themed one with a built-in Schrödinger's Cat feature which makes your dick so numb that you can't be sure if it's still attached to you without pulling out.

>>19410848
Talk about a whole new spin on the phrase "Catbox"

>Duncantrice theory comes out
>it's literally fucking nothing

>>19409558
Now that I've googled "Higurashi refrigerator" I've done my due diligence and you have to tell me just what's going on.

Higurashi is being ported to a refrigerator?

>>19411523
Not just any refrigerator

A Samsung smart refrigerator. Expect the announcement in three days

>>19411523
Yeah it’s a really odd cross promotion move by R07

>>19409558
Higurashi for Alexa when?

>>19409558
Don't you mean yet another live-action adaptation of Higurashi?

>>19411523
aren't you excited?

Umineko audio book when

Ive been needing to get a new fridge for a while. Thank you r07 for giving me the push I needed.

>>19413867
but who should be the narrator?

Satoko is a kid! what a loser!

>>19411234
:) XD

>>19413449
This is so sad. Hanyuu, play Despacito.

>>19414010

>>19413987
What did he mean by this

Is R07 ever going to do something new?

>>19414296
He's working on WTC 5, a new episode of Umineko and a collaboration project with Hinoue Itaru

>>19414296
2016 and 2017 had Trianthology, Hotarubi, Renai Harem, and Haworthia. I'd be more concerned if we're ever going to get new translations.

If you're concerned about never getting translations, you can do it yourself!

>>19414480
I'm too much of an unmotivated and retarded sack of shit to ever learn

>>19414480
Unless he releases something like Umineko again. Witch Hunt did a fine job translating, but they still struggled. You never know which part you're suppose to take literally because anything could be a clue, and which part has a deeper and hidden meaning all along.

>Bern and Willard team up in omk
>its just bern bullying him

I love this

ONE KILOMETER ONE KILOMETER ONE KILOMETER
IF TRUE I TOLD YOU FAGGOTS
TRANSLATION FUCKING WHEN

>>19414641
Seriously what

>>19414146
Listen to the secret hints in the ost :) i will be like xaki so i wont give you more hints.

People in the thread are already getting insane, and this is just the announcement.

Can't wait for when we are hours from the release and the first reactions.

>Inb4 fake spoiler hell all over again

>>19411523
07th Expansion's Twitter said they're planning to announce their next work on the 15th. Anons are trying not to get their hopes up.

>>19414476
This. Ryukishi's still going strong. It's the fan translators who are slacking off.

Why do you keep using this out of context caps as evidence when she's clearly referring to Kanon?

>>19415371
explain please.

https://twitter.com/snazzyq/status/1005906001709551616

>>19415114
>Inb4 fake spoiler hell all over again
That can also be pretty fun though.

It's pretty much how Ange got to it in episode 6. Not that farfetched.

>ywn beat the shit out of Ange

r07 could come out everyday to release an announcement and I would still get absolutely pumped every time, even if they always ended up being nothing.

>>19415528
rude

>>19415469
It's even somewhat helpful in a way, since it makes you doubt real spoilers.

>>19413867

I've been thinking of hiring a VA to make an english audiobook from the Higurashi novelizations i made, but then I realize that they'll have to be pronouncing japanese words and it would probably be super cringy.
Unless we do what 4Kids does and localize everything. "Welcome to Hanover, a tiny hamlet in Maine where Rachel, Kevin, and Mar[y|ia] enjoy fun after school activities."

>>19415528
>ywn make angeburgers from her butt

>>19416893
I'd do it desu

in Tatagoroshi, I get that the gang is making up stories to give K1 an alibi for when he was murdering that dude, but why does Satoko say this; (image) when proded about her uncle's whereabouts?

Did she hallucinate her uncle waking her up in the morning?
Did K1 accidentally kill the wrong person?

I know that the body disappears later cause the Sonozakis moved him to their dungeon pit, but would they do that if they saw that K1 had just killed some rando?

>>19416930

Read for the audiobook or localize higurashi?

>>19416939
Read. Though I figure the latter could easily be done by just replacing certain terms through a word processor.

>>19416962

Can i get your discord username or email or something? I'd love to discuss this further.

>>19416932
Satoko was L5 at the time, she hallucinated the presence of her uncle

>>19416932
K1 very probably killed the right person because IIRC during the credits it says that Teppei disappeared and was never found after the Hinamizawa disaster.

Two days more

Another day another destiny

This never ending road to mediocrity

R07's collaboration time will surely happen a second time

Two days more

>>19416968
Could I see those novelizations first? I'd like to take a look before getting your hopes up too much, plus others might find it interesting to read

puu sh/AVFnE/78fcb9eb56 pdf

Thats Onikakushi

>>19417335
>>19417419

>>19417419
>>19417425
Thanks senpai, I'll give it a read after I wake up, I'm exhausted

https://www.strawpoll.me/16071172

>>19417512

When's the tea party

What's she going to do with that duct tape?

>>19418369
Umineko and One Piece, and the fucking Brits, have taught me to stay the fuck away from tea parties

Is using your piece for sexual gratification frowned upon?

>>19419602
only if you lose the game

>>19413970
Kenta-kun

R07 should write a gambling themed VN

>>19420144
Please, don't, I'm not ready. I'm already enough of an obnoxious fanboy of both. If he pulls it off, I'll never ever shut the fuck up about it and it will ruin my life.

>>19420282
Sequel to Umineko where Yasu survived with the gold and makes our protagonist go through life threatening gambles for money WHEN

>>19420144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmMR5pg0Y_A
This is probably the closest we'll ever get

god is a girl

>>19420457
>implying that Featherine isn't trans
Look at "her" jaw and shoulders anon.

>>19420457
The perfect beings are generally viewed as hermaphroditic, merging the seperate entities of male and female as one. The metaphysical implications and symbolism of this are portrayed throughout history in nearly every system of belief and mythology.

What Im getting at is... what are chances that featherine has a dick? And will she peg me?

>>19420483
Sounds like you're just intimated by a powerful woman

>>19420497
Now that sounds like my kind of god

Loving Shannon it's gay or not?
asking for a friend lol.

>>19420618
If youre not sure if loving Sayo is gay or not, you probably already are gay and youre just afraid of people finding out. The answer is obviously no tho.

>>19420618
Don't labels hold you back anonymous, just b yourself

>>19420639
>>19420645
It was for a friend! but thanks.

>>19420618
Love is love.

Look at her! Look how happy she is! Is it because of her hat?

>>19420986
She is euphoric.

>>19420986
that's a very nice hat

>>19420986
God i wish i had a hat like that

>>19420986
Where can I find a girl like Erika?

>>19421258
you can't

>>19420500
I’m intimidated by any godlike entity, on the basis that I am not

>>19417553
So far it seems “Absolutely fucking nothing” is winning, as the day wraps up.

>>19421620
Time to pray for a miracle.

>>19421630
no miracle for you

>>19421740
Not even if the miracle happens to be an announcement of a new title with Bern as the lead character?

>>19421620
Because nobody wants to admit to getting their hopes up.

>>19418560
Go scuba diving to find the missing dick and then tape it back on to the dickless wonder.

Where's all the creators here? Entertain me, you slaves.

*farts*
i-it was kanon not me!

>>19422280
The memes can only flow once we get new content from the madman R07 himself.

I can't really make any more jokes about the quarter italian tranny

>>19422383
Write me a story

>>19422390
Working on it

your civic duty to shill however you can

>Umineko Episode 9
>it's a serious story
What left is there to be told?

>>19422422
episode devoted to confirming rosatrice

>>19422433
>Duncantrice is right
>ONE KILOMETER
>Also Gohda revealed to have survived

>>19422441
will probably confirm that ikuko is sayo too

inb4 wtc5 is a direct tie in to both higurashi and umineko

episode 9 is a huge prologue to tie them all together and set a massive stage

>>19422476
pls don't give me such high hopes

>>19422433
Get out knownomore.

>>19422476
now that would be a miracle

Beato more like BANTO, heh!

>>19423214
oof

>>19423214
those bants are unbeatoble

>>19423348
You're cute I wana take you home

>>19423214
>>19423319
Is that the actual dialogue? i have the game in steam but i never play it.

>>19423666
that it is

>>19417468

Have you had the chance to look it over?

>>19424421
I have. I'm going through the whole thing, it's pretty interesting how you've set this all up. I think the transliteration from visual novel to novel is a bit difficult to grasp as opposed to just being a novel originally.

>>19424513

A problem i had was that it was hard to tell who was speaking when there were a group of characters in a scene. VNs dont use alot of "he said / she said"s and instead rely on the character portraits to convey that information. In order to make it a bit easier, i added some X said / declared / yelled / asked, etc

https://twitter.com/hijikatakurone?s=09

I saw these needlefelting dolls and they look so fucking good. Immediately thought of learning how and eventually making Beatrice. S-Should I go for it? How much would anon pay for something like that seeing as how they can take several hours and even more to make.

I'm going to chase my dreams.

Oh. That was six words, not five.

>>19424740
I'm gonna chase my dreams.

I'm already chasing my dreams

>>19424857
You're under arrest for chasing your dreams

>>19424864
You can't stop me. Even when things seem most hopeless, I always believe that a miracle will occur.

>>19424662
That's a good call on your part.

I read Umineko but it was shit. Why do people like it so mcuh?

>>19425069
Because the girls are hot.

>>19425069
Pretty much everything about it story and characters are god-tier t for people who aren't retard goats

>>19425094
Oh please, Zaregoto and Disco Wednesday did everything that Umineko tried to do much better.

>>19425105
Zaregato is shit though just like anything by Nisio isin

>>19425105
Oh please I have seen over 4000 volumes of literature (consist of manga, movie, LN, novels, anime) also read VN more than 300 titles included every single titles from VNDb top 50 and untranslated VNs but I am yet to find a more unique story or anything that could be compare to it as upgrade version

Umineko is:

-Murder mystery
-Modern Fantasy
-Commentary on the detective genre
-And does a lot of other stuff romance, philosophy, breaking the 4th wall etc.

Furthermore, it claims to be a kinetic novel (aka no choices) and technically has only 1 relevant choice for the ending, but manages to crush even that, by making player do not a physical, but a mental choice how to treat this story. At the same time it can be both: pure murder mystery without fantasy elements and a pure fantasy story.

>>19417512
>https://www.strawpoll.me/16071172
The result of the poll is pretty damn depressed

Tell something interesting about Ryukishi.

>>19425317
He fought against the other Riders in the Mirror World because he wanted to end the fighting. All of the other Riders agreed that he was a huge idiot.

>>19425317
He's probably transgender

>>19425317
He's an anime character.

>>19425317
He wants to be the little girl

>>19425177

anime and movies arent literature. I think you mean volumes of media

>>19425403
Yeah I mean pretty much any medium in general.

>>19425317
He posts here

>>19425580
I guess we know who the ANGE IS A HUMAN! LEWD! poster is now

HOLY SHIT THE WTC 5 LOGO LEAKED

>>19425639

CHARA can kill witches
Discuss

>>19425317
an actually interesting trivia: R07 was a social security worker with broken families as his area of expertise, that's part of the reason why he's putting so much emphasis on parent-child relationships (and why stories like Satoko's or Maria's were able to hit how they did)

>>19425639
>>19425642
>not featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series
fake

>>19425639
>>19425642

>>19425317
He's having a Q&A in Animecon in Finland right now

The event in the Finland seems to have begun. What kind of feeling is the first Nordic event (⌒∇⌒) If there is no trouble, as planned [7/15] we will tweet information ban. I hope you will enjoy it. The net of the work place does not die already (Japan 07th staff of answering machine)

HELP

R07 JUST LOCKED THE DOORS AND SAID "IF U RIKE BATTLE ROYALES SO MUCH, THEN BE THE LAST ONE IN THIS ROOM STANDING"

A NUMBER 100 JUST APPEARED ON THE PROJECTOR SCREEN

>>19425837
戦わなければ、生き残れない!!

>>19425815
Unfortunately the con is a mess and this is how many people showed up

https://twitter.com/exolumi/status/1018103690752937984

>>19425897
Well, Finland is not exactly a huge country.

fins are too busy tubettaing nowadays

>>19425897
fuck that's sad

>>19425897
One of those better be from here

>フィンランドは犯罪に対して支払う
Anyone speak moon?

>>19426248
Shitposting about finland

Umineko Episode 9 portrait

Happening!

Nice

>>19426302
But why?
>>19426299
>new main character
BATTLER NEGRO

>>19426299
So those pictures he said he’s taking are actually for WTC5

L o g o

W h e n

>>19426299
Finnish Battler? What would his specialty be?

>>19426390
Finnish Character is for WTC 5

Umineko 9 has a new MC. So not Battler, not Willard.

>>19426299
Could the new main character be somebody like Kinzo's Wife or Asumu? I wouldn't be too happy if it was a prequel, but I think those are the only 2 mentioned characters that are never seen in the main story.

>>19426420
I assume that it would be something more meta like Ep. 7 with focused more gameboard structure with new character also might be bridge between Umineko to WTC5 like Saikoroshi was

>>19426438
WILLARD BLANCO

>>19426299
>and it will come out very soon
He did say it will be out this summer months back. That means within the next 2 months. It's getting close.

WTC 5: Stardust Crusaders

Wait hold up when did they announce Umineko 9

>>19426627
Few months ago. Today in Finland we were told that WTC 5 is gonna be an international story, and that Umineko 9 is gonna have a new MC. Hopefully we get more info than just that. Like a logo or portrait or something.

>>19426627
November of last year, during an event.
https://twitter.com/umezawa_report/status/926459187189637120

>>19426648
In the post where he said there was going to be an announcement on the 15th, he mentioned a logo.

Does anybody know what time zone hes using when he says 15th? Since hes in finland would tomorrow be the 15th? If hes still going by jst, would todat be the 15th then?

A miracle can only happen if we all believe!

>>19426681
He said japan time

>>19426681
Midnight, Japan, Apparently. Here it is.
https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1018148111254896642

>>19426731
Oh? Wouldnt that be right now then?

>>19426731
>OOのなく頃に

Isn't that Virgilius on the right?

>>19426764

>>19426770
I cant believe Rosa cut her hair!

No don't release it yet I haven't learned japanese yet

>>19426800
Your deadline is this winter. Ganbare.

why is it called wtc5?
i thought wtc was only higurashii and umineko

>scenario dragon knight 07 Main scriptor Nagao Bouchi @ tempo_kouhou Main graphic is also included @remotaro
>Main scriptor Nagao Bouchi
scriptor as in writing or as in coding?

>>19426843
WTC 1 and 2 are Higurashi and Higurashi Kai
WTC 3 and 4 are Umineko and Umineko Chiru

>>19426764
>When They Cry 4+
Holy shit it's happening

>>19426764
Also it looks like his artstyle has improved so much. I cannot contain my excitement this is so hype

>>19426764
Shitcock who is that WtC 5 gal?

She looks cool and determined.

>>19426764
I don't this the thing on the right is WTC5, I think they're both WTC4+

>>19426883
Its Rosa anon, she got a haircut and stole Will's fashioms.

>>19426764
Wait, wait. I know everything about Japanese, I've machine translated two visual novels.

>OOのなく頃に
>When the dicks cry

So it's a tale about cocks?

>>19426731
>>19426764

>>19426886
Are you retarded? Why would there be two separate titles on the banner then where the beginning is censored on the second title, just like how r07 said he didnt wanna give the title of wtc5 till close to the release because the title itself is a spoiler. What is your thought process?

>>19426913
Gomensai Anon. Just looked like Virgilius so I thought WTC4+.
>>19426911
DESPAIRFAGS BTFO

>>19425078

https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1018148111254896642
Holy shit.
I'm ready to fap.

>>19426925
The character on the right somewhat reminds me of Virgilius, but after comparing the two designs I'm still not too sure. I don't know if I should take that as the new character for WTC4+ that Ryukishi mentioned at the convention or a character for WTC5.

>>19426764
I knew Bern would pull through

We need to guess the thing that cries

It can't be an animal because no animal can be a spoiler and international at the same time

>>19426964
The humans. Mankind. When Mankind cries.

>>19426964
There's white feathers showing again, just like in last year's teaser. It could be related.

>>19426964
>>19426976
Doves
>white deathers
>common bird worldwide

>>19426731
>新シナリオ１本＋α
So there's a new scenario and an alpha. What alpha could it be? The scrapped Land of the Golden Witch?

Are you ready for the truth?

>>19426974
>>19426976
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather

It's a symbol related to warfare, with both pacifists and patriots having used it. Every episode where things go wrong will feature humanity crying because of nuclear war

>>19427038
based magical gohda chef

>>19426764
>>19426770
So Virgilius will blow everyone the fuck out in Ep 9 and then become the WTC5 MC?
Ep 9 has no reason for existing other than tying Umineko to WTC5

>>19427048
>Every episode where things go wrong will feature humanity crying because of nuclear war
When the heavens cry. Nuclear fallout.

Nigga No Naku Koro Ni

If it says it's an alpha for Umineko then wouldn't that be Virgilius?

>>19427098
>a story about inner city gang violence

who is virgilius

>>19427127
Virgilia, but as a guy wait shouldn't he just be called "Virgil?"

Umineko Chiru was a trainwreck, I hope Ryu sways as far from that as possible.

IS CRAVAT-KUN A GIRL(MALE) OR A GUY(FEMALE)

>>19427127
https://seaoffragments.wordpress.com/2015/05/18/acen-2015-07th-expansion-panel-2-ryukishi07-his-way-of-writing-a-story/
>He often went online a lot to see what people were thinking about the game. After EP2, a lot of players were giving up on the mystery and declaring it a fantasy. That led him to change EP3 from its original much harder version. He added Virgilia to help the reader. Originally, that character was going to be Virgilius, an evil and very intelligent male character, that later became Erika Furudo.
The name ended up going to Virgilia, and the personality went to Erika. EP3 was suppose to be Land of the Golden Witch, and it was even mentioned in-universe.

>>19427152
That's clearly girl(male)

>>19427160
Thank you very much

>>19426764
Another fucking Umineko?
What is even there in that story after "it's books lol".

>>19427180
the only question I have left that it could possibly pertain to would be if it's battler or beatrice claiming to be battler in the magic end.

So is the character on the right a Umineko character or are they from the new work?

I have to confess something. I've never read episode 8 or any of Higurashi

>>19427216
stupid goat...

>>19427205
>>19427160
>>19426770
read the thread

>>19427233
No I'm wondering if that character is Virgilius or from the new work. The tweet says one work is Umineko and the other is something else

>>19427205
Could be either one, it's not that clear. Ryukishi might clarify it later.

>>19427216
Better finish. Both series have finished years ago and people here don't feel the need to use spoiler text. If you come into these threads and want to join in discussion, it's assumed you already read it all.

>>19427244
I pretty much know what happens in episode 8, and my complete lack of knowledge of Higurashi saves me from understanding any of the discussion about it. I'm just glad that there's something new coming out that could revitalize this place, I miss mystery anon

While we're on the subject, what's THE way to read Higurashi?
I've been told Steam a lot but they still aren't done. What do? Steam and switch to something else? (but what?)

>>19426299
>more international
Lame. I want something enclosed and small-scale.

>>19427284
original pc version
french if you can speak it, its 100x better than the english translation
the extra arcs arent worth reading

>>19427302
>the extra arcs arent worth reading
Saikoroshi is essential and arguably one of the best chapters.

>>19427302
>implied bad english translation
uh oh

Birthdays of the two Battlers was suggested the other day for 07151129. Two dates like Battler said. Incest homolust incoming.

IT'S OVER VIRGILIUS

MY CRAVAT IS BIGGER THAN YOURS

>>19427152
>>19427354
You call those little napkins cravats?

>>19426976
Do you think this puts to rest any significance to the teaser's negative filter? While the new WTC5 image continues presenting white feathers, an inversed teaser image normalizes the atmosphere and blackens the feathers. That truly black feathers would be shown as white is intriguing (hopefully not merely pareidolia). Assuming the negative filter has any significance, innumerable black and/or white global birds exist: doves, seagulls, crows, ravens, herons, cranes, pelicans, etc. I know the significance of some of these in Buddhism and Hinduism, including the significance of the legendary garuda, who has significance particularly in samsara. Consider one of the Haworthia tracks translating to "sky of sunyata," which is apt for a white and/or black bird with spiritual significance (and that the sky of emptiness is above the fog and buildings in the teaser). This befits those mystical birds particularly. Or perhaps we're looking at some duality? Who knows?

But I never predicated my understanding of Umineko on the Buddhist or Hinduist significance of the seagull, which is why I'm not too invested in this aporetic strategy. The title creature was always an engine for the narrative—as mimesis—and not for the true magic/profundity.

>>19427354
>>19427357
This isn't even my final form

>>19427359
Here's the inverted logo.

But maybe black feathers and white feathers are both part of the plot.

HE'S KILLING ALL THE FINNS

HE'S KILLING ALL THE FINNS

WE DON'T KNOW WHY BUT HE'S KILLING ALL THE FINNS

>>19427354
Why do hostile characters look more legit than smiling characters in r07 works

>>19427146
>>19427180
>>19425105
>>19425069

So many goats here lately. Are they coming back just now and didn't reread the story yet (just to eat their own words like most of us did already)?

Feels good that we are finally getting Umineko EP9 tho. The most well elaborated VN in existence getting extra material that isn't fandisk silly stuff. Couldn't be happier.

WTC5 tho, that's something that worries me.
How can it possibly surpass Umineko in any way?

>>19427489
Not to mention Zaregoto is the one that became a stupid trainwreck of a "mystery". It's almost like goat anon didn't read the whole thing.

Nisio should stick with his Otaku-panderingatari series, that at least is gramatically well written. Or maybe just write more spinoff for already existing series, given that his Death Note book was probably the best thing he has ever done, legit great.

>>19426843
>newfags

>>19427253
Nigger, I'm going to be honest with you: Higurashi is a wonderful series and you're missing out if you don't read it. Everything Ryukishi puts out is pure gold. I just recently finished Rose Guns Days and it's up to the Ryukishi standard.

>>19426845
Coding. It seems Ryukishi's brother won't be able to do it this time around, then.

>>19427533
no bully

>>19427579
true
rose gun days is fantastic

>>19426883
>cool and determined
Confirmed for suffering

You know, Yasu clearly has a talent for writing stories as shown by the message bottles. And then we have Ikuko who is also a writer. Coincidence?

So I'm confused, did Umineko 9 get announced or is it both Umineko 9 and WTC5?

>>19427713
umineko 8+, an additional story but its still an extra arc
and
wtc 5, no name

>>19427705
yasu is a fan of mystery novels
so is battler since he read a lot of them during his 6 years in exile
yasu is battler

>>19427713
Both are being released simultaneously this winter.

>>19427736
you mean WTC4+

>>19427744
[Citation needed]
Assuming this is true, does Winter mean the December Comiket?

>>19427705
See the last thread for arguments against this

>>19427753
Have you tried reading the thread a little more carefully?

https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1018148111254896642

>>19427758
>Moonrunes Tweet
>Moonrunes image

>>19427772
Better get to studying it. You're going to be in for a very long wait for a translation, if we're even going to get one.

>>19427772
>/jp/
this isn't /a/
And even google translate would get you that accurately

>>19427772
who are you quoting?

>>19427792
No wonder we are full of goats here.

People who aren't from this board suddenly jumped into the thread.

>>19427788
Why wouldn't we? Ryukishi is high-profile and the fan community is very passionate. We even got speedy translations of the side series that was RGD.

>>19427801
You're right, I've never visited jp before. I'm an /a/ and r9k poster. I only came here to read up on WTC.

HOWEVER.

I am a true 07th-Expansion fan. I have been ever since I read all 8 Higurashi novels in that long ago year of 2010.

>>19427803
We still never got Trianthology translated, or his other works like Haworthia or Renai Harem Game. There's also the Hotarubi manga that had a very slow translation but stopped midway because the team is French and the manga got licensed over there.
And now there's going to be two new works coming. It's not looking good.

>>19427847
Yeah, but those literal whos weren't fucking When They Cry. Witch Hunt or Spider Lily will get these niggers translated. Believe it.

I WANT TO BULLY CRAVAT-KUN!

>>19427705
Goats are quick to take only one argument among a dozen to laugh at it. It is intellectually disingenuous, and only prove that they are goats, unable to think for themselves. It is sad, really. Truly sad. Being blind to a truth because of a deep incomprehension of the core thematic of Umineko.

Ultimately, all the arguments against Ikuko = Yasu boils down to:
>It was all a coincidence!
>Ikuko used magic!
>Yasu wouldn't create alternate personalities to deal with stressful situations!

Which is absurdly laughable. The worst is that anons give those goat-like answers seriously. For them, it was all really a coincidence, all discrepancies are explained by magic, and they can't imagine Yasu doing what she has always done since the beginning. They don't seem to grasp how stupid their answers are.

I personally think it is an affair of pride. They didn't think about that theory, so their pride is in the line. Admitting it is true would be admitting other people were cleverer than them, and that is hard for them. A lack of basic humility.

>>19427860
Haworthia is more relevant to WTC5 than Umineko, so go figure why it wasn't translated yet

>>19427878
Not flashy enough.

>>19427860
Hotarubi no Tomoru Koro ni. is related to the When They Cry series.
https://whentheycry.miraheze.org/wiki/The_First_and_the_Last_Gift

Haworthia might also be related to WTC5, that's what it was originally suppose to be and there are some ideas and themes that might be relevant to it.

Renai Harem Game is its own thing, but so was Higanbana and Rose Guns Days.

>>19427892
I'm an idiot, wrong link. Here's the fan translation for The First and Last Gift.
https://tarabletranslation.wordpress.com/2016/01/24/when-they-cry-the-first-and-last-gift/

>>19427871
Please refer to the previous thread, in which both thematic and narratively logistical arguments are presented against this theory. If you are the same person who was involved in those arguments, I would ask you to address these final posts that never went answered to.

>>19427878
Only because some of the music may be shared, and because R07 came up with Haworthia during the process of coming up WTC5. The idea that it's connected to WTC5 in any meaningful way is a false rumor.

And the reason it wasn't translated is that naturally, nobody competent is going to pick it up when a translation project was already announced with big fanfare immediately after it was released last year.

>>19423666
I've had quite a lot of fun playing the game, I'd certainly recommend it my friend. I especially I had fun playing with my favorite characters. Despite that I must say the characters I didn't enjoy actually surprised me with enjoyable story-lines.

>>19428029
It's being translated? When?

Cravat-kun looks too angry to be Virgilius. We all know Virgilius would be a smug homosexual

>>19428103
Not anymore, all the known translators dropped it hard with the end of Rokkenjima being announced shortly after.

There was infodump anon, but his hard disk broke or whatever, meaning there's not one person translating it any longer.

>>19427382
Yeah, the feathers could also be a red herring and have nothing to do with the animal the story will be named after. It could very well only have disjointed thematic relevance (like how seagulls are only thematic insofar as their Japanese name shares a word with "catbox," regarding Umineko's epistemological themes). I wouldn't be surprised if it was something only distantly related to the heavenly Empyrean.

I mean something you'd only get after two or three entire linguistic/thematic connections, like seagull>neko>catbox>Schrodinger's experiment>the commentary on an object's state before perception pierces it. What could we possibly surmise from white feathers? We could be starting from the seagull or the commentary. It could be that the white feather is of an animal per se or of some idea of the holy/virtuous/foregone and forlorn. Whichever we're starting from, it could very well only be related to an afterimage two nodes away from the actual animal/theme (let's say the animal-theme connection is a tree diagram).

>>19428029
Of course Haworthia could be crucial. In literature, from microcosm to macrocosm (word to book), all is deliberate. The diction, prosody, description, setting, metaphors, etc, are never happenstance. That's how you fall into the death of the author meme which is grossly misattributed by a mass who never even read Barthes (of course) when all it means to do is recognize that we should not be beholden to authorial intent as the sole descriptor of meaning. It's just to avoid authorial tyranny, especially since some shared understanding of a work is required for any charitable and productive discussion to be had. Should Haworthia share tracks with WTC5, plus the magical themes in Umineko, it must have some meaningful connection to the author's intentions. Of course this reverberates for song and not pure melody, where lyrics are basically meaning bruteforced. It depends on which of those tracks are shared.

I acknowledge that Haworthia's significance is enervated if it was only synchronously written with WTC5 and not as a piece of some WTC5 rough draft.

I think that since he's releasing both Umineko EP9 + "Alpha" (Maybe something similiar to ???? chapter for the "new scenario?), and WTC5, and that we know Umineko's new content will have a new protagonist, I think that EP9's protagonist and WTC5 protagonist are going to be the same character.

Which, is kind of genius. Ryukishi knows we're attached to Umineko, so he'll trick us to feel new character is Umineko related and then take us to a completely different place.

In general, I think the new Umineko content is for connecting WTC5 and Umineko together

>>19428320
That sounds clever, it makes sense for a series like WTC to do something like that. I'd trust Ryukishi to pull that sort of thing off well.

>>19428226
>Barthes
>His first book, Writing Degree Zero, was a study of how even an apparently neutral style of writing carries political implications that the writer may not even be aware of.

Interesting, though I dare say him suggesting that the political implications are the writer not being aware is a very charitable allowance on his part. In addition to his tvtropes page, I read his Death of the Author essay - this bit stuck out to me

>Is it the author Balzac, professing certain “literary” ideas of femininity? Is it universal wisdom? or romantic psychology? It will always be impossible to know, for the good reason that all writing is itself this special voice, consisting of several indiscernible voices, and that literature is precisely the invention of this voice

Yes, deliberate ambiguity is part of the beauty of writing, although ambiguity can also, in a work full of structure, be a cheap cope out. In any event Death of the Author doesn't mean "The truth is what you make of it."

Or in other words, Death of the Author, or at least how I view it, means that when faced with this deliberate ambiguity, we can come up with several interpretations with a good deal of validity, but we can't come up with infinite interpretations as valid as the other.

Why can't the Ushiromiyas rest in peace;_;

Since Black Battler exists, how can we rule out that he wasn't the real culprit behind everything? He could have been the one to convince Rudolf and Kyrie to murder everyone.

>>19425775
Not even a chuckle with this one.

>>19428580
>black guy shot everyone and stole everything
Rude

>>19427631
>he said, posting the two biggest bullies in fiction

Curse you finns, ungrateful fucks

>>19428580
The fact that Black Battler 'exists' is actually proof that he didn't do it. If the normal Battler was capable of that, you wouldn't need another piece to represent the Battler culprit theory.

>>19428515
Precisely. Language has necessary interstices which is a bit part of Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations. His beetle in a box private language particularly addresses that language isn't wholly creative and unique, but there exists still some irresistible interstice because of language's nature (which is why he concludes we should just use language to the best of our ability). As for what that has to do with Barthes and writing, it means that, while a phrase presents innumerable interpretative possibilities, only a particular set are charitable to discussion. This goes for language and it goes for writing, which is a product of language, and so it must be recognized and appreciated by those who discuss that very writing that we shouldn't be intentionally duplicitous or uncooperative in our interpretations. Ex: someone arguing that the tree on page 56 is the actual protagonist of the story. Umineko, as metafiction, is conducive to these sorts of discussions, considering those people with absurd, heartless, unintelligent theories are otherwise known as, among us, goats. Metafiction is what we call writing on writing. Don't forget authorial intent.

Finally, after 7 long years of mocking... the truth is upon us.

>>19428609
Is he really another 'piece' though? Do they explicitly say this somewhere?

>>19428611
I'm torn on the idea of stupid theories. The intent behind them matters a lot. I think we all have to start with stupid theories.

Furthermore, I think stupid theories can eventually evolve into good works of fiction on their own merit. It's hard to quantify "effort", but I think so long as legitimate thought or a spark of creativity has gone into a theory - even if the theory is TOTALLY off the mark, it's ok in my book.

You can always get more out of any written work, but much like squeezing an orange for juice, you gotta work harder and harder to get less and less.

And there's always the chance that you're not discovering some hidden secret, you're just projecting your own meaning onto something.

>>19428614
I can't believe Beatrice was a robot sent forward in time by ancient aliens

Witch hunt please ;_;

>>19428711
Pressure them to translate Haworthia.

>>19427160
I don't think Cravat-kun is Virgilio, then.

>>19427916
It would cheapen the whole death thing, wouldn't it

>>19428739

>>19425078
Pic unrelated

>>19428607
Aghhhh

Is this sort of thing frowned upon?

>>19428741
It's a bit too early for a new thread tho, /jp/ is a slow board.

>>19428741
There wasn't really a need to make a new thread. /jp/ is slow, this thread can last days before it gets pruned. Usually it's best to wait until the thread actually reaches page 10, at the earliest.

>>19428692
Yeah, that's why I have to make sure I'm not fooling myself with the pareidolia meme, which is very typical of people new to reading. Diminishing returns on info is natural. Until a new sound interpretation is found, the predecessors will be furiously developed until we're left nitpicking. New sound interpretations of course refer to profound ideas previous readers didn't find or syntheses lost on them. Reading is as creative and difficult a task as writing, after all. There are good readers and bad readers. Borges was a proponent of this idea, actually.


>>19428653
Regardless of the theory or its effort, we're avoiding uncharitable discussion. Those theories that are superfluous, and grasp at distant afterimages until their nails break, in the hollow hope of originality are what death of the author could be corrupted into supporting. As for a stupid theory developing into a good work, know that all great writers were also great readers, and so a writer who has read stupidly (and constructs his fiction on that phantasm) is likely to construct further stupidity. Before interpreting a musical piece, learn to master it technically, and in the same vein, before injecting creativity, be concerned with writing well. Writing creatively while abdicating skill its throne is basically learning how to draw anime without an understanding of realism (a lot of people are guilty of this). But it could happen, of course, if the interpretation was misled but truly excellent. That can happen. There are indeed valiant and intelligent but wrong ideas.

The new girl looks edgy like ange, lewd!

>>19428916
>in the same vein, before injecting creativity, be concerned with writing well.
I agree with you here. Bad/Cliche ideas implemented skillfully beat out good ideas implemented poorly nine times out of ten.

>Writing creatively while abdicating skill its throne is basically learning how to draw anime without an understanding of realism

True, but it's so hard to tell if one is good at writing. Not that illustration is easier, but ascertaining one's progress certainly is.

>>19428609
what if rudolf had a miscarriage faked on both ends and there's mion/shion bullshit going on which would explain why old battler could remember stuff with ange to begin with courtesy of swap game and the murderous battler died on/near rokkenjima after rudolf revealed the twins or somesuch

>>19429152
My theory was that Jessica was BATTLER, but the only thing going for that is her age.

>>19429039
Girl I think you are mistaken girls cant be protags

>>19429204
What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch?

>>19429168
>the only thing going for that is her age
Some of the people from eight years ago would have disagreed. Unfortunately, the weird stuff around Jessica was overshadowed by and ended up being attributed to Shkannon, and the only odd thing left about her is that she, the single only person on Rokkenjima who has no excuse to not know that they were the same person, somehow didn't know about it.

Rika is cute!

>>19429334
Jessica did nothing wrong!

>>19429334
How does she not have an excuse not to know? Would just be the same situation as her parents.

>>19429334
>>19429344
>tries to encourage someone to just b themselves
>gets killed

what's this teach us?

>>19429364
thing is, be themselves is something not to be told to Yasu

Jessica thus caused Umineko and is more of a culprit than the culprit himself

grats for the massacre, Jeshika

>>19429364
The only way you can overcome sexually frustrated mass murderers is by molesting them

Think about it. Battler gropes Shannon, fake boobs fall out, there we go. Entire fucking island saved. Keikaku ruined

>>19429391
GAMERS RISE UP

>>19427823
>I'm a r9k poster
Kill yourself

>>19429364
Fuck i love jessica but i laughed.

>>19429360
Natsuhi hated Kanon and didn't like to associate with him because she thought he was a spy, Kanon was also silent with her to keep his male persona and
specially so becausee they hated her.

It's implied Krauss didn't know shit about the servants as Natsuhi was the only one who took control of the house.

Them not noticing Shkanon is still bullshit but you can make excuses with them. Jessica straight up interacted with both Kanon and Shannon multiple times in their weakest moments, not noticing they were the same person is the biggest bullshit in Umineko, that's why theories of Jessica and her family knowing about it have been mentioned online before, even if I don't recall NOTHING backing them up.

>>19429395
That's the biggest lesson of all Umineko, thanks anon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZgUXTrJop8

>>19429420
>Them not noticing Shkanon is still bullshit
As if it wouldn't be easy enough, he had 2 main servants and a doctor backing him up the whole time, and the Skannon façade happened only much later.

>>19429360
Several servants, including "Shannon" and "Kanon" rotate in and out of Rokkenjima. The busy Krauss and Natsuhi have an excuse to not immediately recognize their faces when one is on duty and not the other. Jessica on the other hand, is literally both very good friends with Shannon, and has a crush on Kanon. For her to not realize that they are one in the same after having spent so much time with them is insanity, even with the possibility of makeup and a voice change.

This is part of what, on the eve of Shkanon's popularity, spawned Doubletrice, Moontrice, and Fusiontrice theories.

>>19429420
>Jessica straight up interacted with both Kanon and Shannon multiple times in their weakest moments

Excuse me what?
Jessica barely even get close to Kanon at all. There were very few times she actually got to talk with him properly and only once she called him to go to her school festival. She told that herself to Shannon even.

She mostly admired him from far away, and the scenes she was with him that weren't flashbacks were all magic sequences in which there was no Battler observing as the detective authority.

I think you should reread the seacat.

>>19429449
Maybe in anime world, but if you think no one would notice a crossdressing servant infiltrated the Ushiromiya frat house and didn't realize they were the same person as the shy uwu girl they ve known for years irl you are delusional.

>>19429488
I think that's the point, Umineko is a fictional story after all, i love shkanon but obviously irl that would be really difficult.


More of the ryu's interview in Finland.

>>19429488
It might be useful to remember that all of the tales were fiction, and that on the real Rokkenjima things went down on the very first night, leaving much less time for Shannon and Kanon to need to put up a facade. Yasu retired to the gold room as Beatrice some time prior to the adults solving the epitaph, and no serial murders occurred that those involved who were still living didn't understand the answer to.

>>19429520
This.

>>19429488
You would be surprised with just how many people disguised in the real world got away with it in conditions much more "unbeliavable" than this.

someone post that story of the spy man that crossdressed his way for years investigating government stuff way back in the 60s or 70s someone posted in that thread some years ago.

>>19429520
I was still talking about Natsuhi, Jessica and Krauss.

Yeah, I agree the rest of the family not noticing Shkannon in a single day is be plausible.

>>19429540
Is this the same crossdresser who carried on a sexual relationship and still managed to fool the man they were involved with?

>>19429543
I FUCKING HATE RUDOLF THAT PIECE OF SHIT WHAT THE FUCK TALKING NASTY THINGS TO THE PUREST AUNT IN THE STORY WHAT THE HELL
TRASH TRASH TRASH DIARRHEA POOP SHIT STD BUTTHOLE
KYS FUCKING DUMB ASS TARD

people who think Shkannon is bullshit really should take a look in some of our world's most infamous disguise façades. there are innumerous out there for the recent wars alone, let alone medieval eras and such.

>>19429540
I liked that one of the other military man disguising as 3 different people (including a woman) and interacting with big figures for a couple of days, I remember that thread.

What some good makeup and wig can do is amazing.

SHKANON MAKE SENSE

>>19429607
Kys rosatricefag.

>>19429607
Why are there so many goats in here these last 2 days, someone get these people out of /jp/

>>19429607
It's not 2012 anymore, Rosatricefag.

Fuck off finlands, it's empty.
>ywn rub Ryu's soft belly
s-sad!

Guy on the left is a character who solves Umineko and becomes a Sorcerer because Lambdadelta finds it amusing. He'll play a role in WTC5.

Cravat-Kun just wants to live a happy life, sadly he's in WTC

>>19429697
Isn't the guy on the left Battler?

>>19429488
You're seriously underestimating the asians crossdressing skills.
And don't forget they also were supposed to look a bit alike because the family thought they could be brother and sister.

>>19429705
A guy who solves Umineko and becomes a Sorcerer because Lambdadelta finds it amusing.

Battler playing a role in WTC5 would be really fun.

>>19429723
>Battler: Cravat-kun... you must grope the breasts. Firmly. You must firmly grope them.

>>19429738
International story+probable Finland character
Protagonist has a cravat, symbolic of Croatia. Etymology of cravat is Croat.

Croatia character???

>>19429204
Boring, human condition of males isn't pathetic and humiliating at all.

>>19428580

what if black battler is the main enemy in this new ep? he even say to tohya he was to destroy everything of his.

>>19429420
Youre acting like Jessica hung out with them all the time and had sleepovers. They rarely talked. Sure she had a crush on Kanon, but it was from afar. Anytime they talked it would be in passing or related to servant duties.

It was stated that the servants on the island change all the time and the family conference is when the most were there. Different servants being on the island at different times means sayo could space out the use of Kanon and Shannon. I bet she rarely used both personas at the same time, meaning youd probably only see Shannon for a week and then Kanon next week or something similar. Not to mention you have Nanjo, Mackeral, and Genji providing cover. When you use all the information given, its entirely possible and easily manageable. Goats who find issue with it either have sticks up their ass or don't know the details surrounding the issue.

Since Rika is actually over 100 years old, it's okay, right?

wtc5 is obviously gonna be a continuation on Higurashi Kaku, where the hinamizawa syndrome spreads globally

I hope umineko 9 will clarify things in the meta. Im tired of goats that are purely anti-fantasy and close their eyes to anything even remotely anti-mystery, trying to tie everything in the meta to something in the prime.

>>19430134
It's okay what? to hug her? yes.
Hugs only and nothing more.

>>19430134

According to the Umineko manga, Rika counted up to 2,000 years of being stuck in the time loop.

>>19430134
Having a relaxing drinking session with? Yes

>>19430272
I thought it was that she went back around 2000 times, meaning she had lived the same 2 months for around 166 years.

>>19430287
I'm not a math guy, how many times did she repeat the 2 months for it to be 2000 years?

>>19430287

Could be interpreted that way, but remember that Rika's loop used to start years before 1983, enough far back that her parents were still alive and enough before they died for her mom to become concerned about her disinterest in life.

The scene in question has lamba saying that she didn't bother counting the years she spent in the logic error unlike Bernkastel, which depicts Rika with kakeras numbering up to 2 thousand.

>>19430276
I quit drinking, how am I suppose to relax with her now?

>>19430326
Midnight drive.

>>19430332
What kind of music would nipah like to listen to on such a ride?

>>19430342

Nano Desu [nightcore remix]

>>19430267
would laying down in a bed hugging be okay

>>19430342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdeIPfHlQuM
EUROBEAT.

>>19430326
by pouring all her drinks

>>19430357
I unironically enjoy eurobeat

>>19430377
we all do

>>19430377
It's okay we all enjoy it.
i like touhou eurobeat.

>>19430369
>pouring out an alcoholic's drinks

Mate...

Alpha, huh?
I guess we are gettting Land after all, that's great

While I'm excited about the recent news about WTC 5 & Umineko 9; we all shouldn't be getting our hopes up about a team of translators deciding to translate them anytime time soon after their release. If we're lucky, perhaps two months afterwards. Then again, that's hard to imagine since no one even bothered to tackle TRianThology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfmaWUAyx38&t=121s

This is all we have, unfortunately.

>>19430857
Get me a hacker to set up the game for people to translate, and maybe I can see things through with some friends. TRT is slightly shorter than Umineko's first EP iirc. Shouldn't be too time consuming to get through, except for maybe Vespio and all the cool sci-fi babble in it.

Ren'ai will be one unfunny drag to go through however...

Why doesn't Ryukishi do anything in North America?

>>19431248
it's probably easier to write about something when you have firsthand experience

>>19424918

Hows the read going?

I read second episode of Umineko and didn't get one thing. Why did Genji throw a knife into butterfly?

Has it ever been revealed what happened after K1 falls off the bridge in Tatagorochi and the Disaster that night?

Rena and Mion try to get K1 to go with them to the junkyard presumably to explain to him that Mion's family moved the body, but his paranoia made him not trust them. I want to know what happened to them afterwards, and also to Satoko since shes classified as missing, not dead in the In Memoriam epilogue.

>>19431684
Leave this thread right now.

>>19431259
I mean do panels or attend any cons.

>>19428320
>Umineko's new content will have a new protagonist
Where did you get this information?

>>19432030
From the convention in Finland. Protagonist might be the wrong word, but a new character is still confirmed.
https://twitter.com/batsugeemu/status/1018109261728178181

We also finally got confirmation on the new character shown in the latest announcement is for the next WTC.
https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1018347553450962945

>>19432251
Oh, I totally missed that first tweet. Thanks.

>>19431919
He was in Chicago recently (3 years ago)

DUDE XD BROTOMINE MY BOY
I'M EVIL SHIT AND LIKE MAPO TOFU XDDD
SO FUCKING DEEP XDDD
OHOHOHHOHOHOHHOHOH
IIHIHIHIHIIIHIHIHIHIHIHIHII
AHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAAHAH

>>19433024
oops
wrong thread
sorry
Just report it

>>19433024
fuck you autist
There is literally nothing wrong with liking Kotomine

>>19433024
t. redgeman

>>19430857
MG picking up 07th works really fucked this up especially with how fucking long it takes them to do anything, but I'm sure someone will do a fan translation for the next WTC and EP9, the audience is still there after all these years while Tri kind of had nothing and was not even terribly well recieved iirc because of the average - low quality of the parts that weren't written by Ryukishi

Reminder to pay attention to your cat

>tfw no other person to make a universe with

>>19435197
I-Im here for you anon.

>>19435214
i don't think you're up to my standards sorry

>>19435500
Being at the bottom of the barrel like you are, you have realize you cant be all that picky with your standards.

>>19435550
Now you're talking

>>19430276
I want to get shit faced with nii~pah