/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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>>19161068
thanks

if you wanted to split /jp/ into two boards how would you do it

hard mode: both halves should be viable boards that the mods would consider entertaining

>>19161089
idol and 2d random

>>19161089
I don't know but touhou should really have its own board

>>19161129
that board would be really slow in the current state of 2hu. it would've made more sense to make a /2hu/ board back in 2007 which technically did happen

>>19161129
There's almost no real 2hu discussion on /jp/. If you just moved all the "x is a girl!" and similar imagedump threads to /c/ or whatever there wouldn't even be a dozen 2hu threads left.

just allow 2hu back on /a/
what's the worst that could happen?

No shit we are slow, it's always like that during the even year. Games were played, lore was discussed and we are now patiently waiting for a new material.

>>19161336
>we are now patiently waiting for a new material.
What should we call it? Marisarium? Orinnite? Parseeum?

Why is there no Love Live! Stuff here.

>>19161401
please, no more idolshit in this board

>>19161401
Because L*v* L*v**, (Allah forgive me for saying such a cursed thing) does not belong here.

>>19161401
It's just an anime, isn't it? Why would it belong on /jp/?

beato

>>19161472
anon

>>19161512
BEATO

>>19161401
There is >>19151019

can we just ban the guys who posts
>pregnant hina time!
and
>koakuma kunny
in half of the threads, they're both autistic underage slavs im not joking

remove s4s and bant crossposters

>>19161401
/jp/ has traditionally been idolmaster country

though honestly right now it's not much of anything at all

>>19161089
Board 1: Japanese doujin and erogames + VNs discussion only nsfw board w/ no porn dumps rule
Board 2: All the other shit sfw board

so one of the few time I venture out of my general in jp,
is what im hearing correct, that touhou stuff has finally simmered down?

>>19161089
The gay part and the virgin part.

>>19162628
Look at the board you homo, does it look like it has?

>>19162641
Touhou doesn't even make a splash in the pool of /jp/ things.

>>19163880
Yeah, because every single Touhou thread contains the word Touhou. Go and actually count the number of "Using the phone with Okina!" or "Kaguya loves Inaba!" threads and tell me they don't outnumber every other thread.

>>19163886
If there were that any, they would be larger. Okina is one of the tiniest words on there. Every general has previous in it. Every other board on 4chan makes a cloud that has the subject of their board as the largest word. /jp/ is a previous general idol board, not a Touhou one or even a Japan one.

>>19164016
>Okina is one of the tiniest words on there.
Are you doing this on purpose?

>>19163880
>>19164016
You're fucking retarded dude, like no joke.

>>19164341
Yes yes, evil big Touhou is oppressing the poor underrepresented general threads.

>>19162638

hey what doujin is this

we need more threads about Japanese culture

>>19161129
it does, its called /jp/

>>19171787
You could go bother the Japanese on /int/ about their culture instead.

>>19171828

it'd be better having a single thread for every aspect of Japanese culture; with a decent mod you can have a month to develop discussions

>>19171787
Only the otaku aspects of it.

>>19177738
Nah, I wouldn't mind more threads on stuff like go or those tea threads that we have sometimes

ah yes, meta
the /jp/ national sport

ZUN is great
Death to the generals
Death to the 3D
A curse on the idols
Victory to Touhou

>>19177769
Those aren't otaku culture. You should go ask someone for a board about Japan.

>>19162638
i want to be fucked by Yukari.

I seriously dont get the point image dump threads when it takes zero effort to go on some booru or pixiv and find countless images yourself. Every time I visit one of these threads its everything i've already seen. The short repeated phrases in the threads could be all be done by a bot and no one would be any wiser.

>>19179654
They want to jack off with their friends or something.

>>19162525
Thanks /bant/ for exposing these shitters

/jp/ just post idols!

TMfags and idolfags need to leave please god

>>19161089
/jp/ + /jpg/

/jp/ needs to split into /2hu/ and /celeb/
other trash generals can go back to /a/, /e/, /vg/, and /trash/

Everyone always talks about what threads they hate and want to get rid of, but there's never any discussion of what threads we'd like to see instead.

Personally, I'd like to see more threads like the "Generational Gap in Otaku Culture" and the "Akihabara Mass Murder incident 10th anniversary" threads. I guess what I mean is I'd like more discussion about otaku culture itself. I also really like the Comiket/Reitaisai threads we always have, and I wish there were more doujin events to have threads for (is garage kits otaku culture? could we have a Wonder Festival thread?).

I think it's hard to come up with topics I'd like to see more of because otaku culture is such a broad topic. The only other board I visit is /m/, which is a very specific topic.

too many large topics taking up all the oxygen. small niche stuff doesn't have room to breathe and gets squeezed to death by the larger and continual threads. moot was obsessed with keeping everything on /b/ and never adding new boards but there's so much room for them. otaku culture could be split into 3d, 2d, and niche. they could add asian culture board and throw idols there along with kpop/asian drama that's everywhere. lots of options but there's issues with management or direction regarding how to sort things. the best boards are the smaller ones so why the obsession for mega boards filled with generals? i think this is a cultural issue and mode of thought so we won't see any changes to it sadly.

My personal opinion is that metathreads are shit and I want you to die

Literally the only thing that needs to happen is for all those threads about 3D idols and JAV to have a home in another board. Like /idol/ for 3D idols and celebrities or something like that. As soon as that happens /jp/ will be back to how it was always meant to be, yes, and I do mean that all the generals and threads you dislike are perfectly fine in here.
On that note, people should also make a better effort at swatting out normalfags who manage to sneaking in here. /jp/ has always been a perverted board due the nature of otaku culture in general, but recently I've seen far too many posts that feel genuinely honest condemning sexualization of arbitrary characters, most likely following a recent trend among normalfag otaku communities. That kind of shit doesn't belong in here.

>>19180556
I would like more people to produce OC.
The reason why Otaku culture is a thing in the first place IS OC.
Its very essence is trading OC with each other.
Basically if we have good OC, then /jp/ can become strong and fun.
Somehow the western world doesn't do much OC for some reason.

Apart from that Idol threads and porn just have to go.

>>19181557
The western world does lots of OC. The problem is how to avoid it belonging to /co/, /vg/(oelvn), or /aco/.

>>19180556
>there's never any discussion of what threads we'd like to see instead.
I'd like to see everything that was shunted to /vg/ back. Namely anything relating to doujin games or the actual gameplay of popular japanese series instead of just wanking over the seiyuu.

I think the kinds of things you mentioned are only okay in moderation. /jp/ really was just meant to hold anything about anime otaku media that wasn't anime or manga, meaning figurines and other goods, vns, light novels, technically things like Kancolle belong here. I would say anime mmos do even though they're mostly made by Koreans. (since being mostly animated by Koreans doesn't make something not anime) I think discussion of the real world Japan, including things like conventions are a bit outside of /jp/'s scope. There's nothing wrong with talking about otaku themselves but /jp/ is really "a board about things otaku consume" not "a board about otaku and their lives" (nor a board about "Japanese media in general" or "Japanese culture and lifestyle").

There really could stand to be an asian media board, not just for idols and korean idols but for dramas and movies and tokusatsu and gaki and that show about that guy playing video games. Of course, there could also just be a push for /tv/ and /mu/ to get over themselves and accept Japanese stuff there. 4chan itself used to be otaku culture, no reason to keep supporting it all being crammed into a few boards.

But posting downloads from and images of conventions is probably fine as long as it's not too heavily a cosplay focus, although I don't really think there is really enough interest in most events since they largely seem to be about doujinshi which could be in /h/ or /a/. But nonetheless nothing's stopping anyone from making a thread about them. That's probably what I want to see most- people not afraid to make threads that aren't shitposts. Right now people just respond to threads they don't like by making threads nobody likes. I'd also like to see more artist discussion. If you're gonna dump images, at least dump them of a specific artist and discuss their works/tastes/style/habits or talk about artists in some more general way (who draws the best lolis, who makes interesting non-h doujin, etc) Discussion of net characters would be nice too. The most you get is some occasional OStan or nijura maid dump thread, and the yukkuri threads. The thing I miss the most is the time where you could talk about specific games. People nowadays just stick in their general and there are hardly any wandering /jp/sies to see your game thread and talk about it/become interested. The most you get is just recommendation threads and threads about some /vn/ popular with /v/. Hopefully general posters will all move to discord or something.

In general I'd like to see more discussion instead of dumps. /jp/ suffers as much from lack of content as it does from general posters leaking in off board habits. It also lacks a sense of culture it was starting to develop too. And I don't mean the shitposting from years ago, but stuff like the various characters that spawned independently of the rest of 4chan. While the other boards were making board tans or whatever, /jp/ was making characters out of its mods and janitors and spambots. There was also that otaku self depreciation type thing in /jp/ related humor, especially involving the idea of a /jp/ communal mansion or meetup. Although that was kinda tied in a bit with the stuff that left to /r9k/.
in retrospect, it's kind of strange /jp/ posters never developed an identity in the sense of representing themselves as differently from blank faced general 4chan anons. Then again, I can't think of a group that did that wasn't also complete cancer, way back even to the afro guys. Maybe /jp/ was just made up of all the old anons.

>>19181557
I'd never post my OC on 0.5chan.

>>19182652
Ironically because of this kind of attitude this place started sucking in the first place.

>>19182775
Elitists thinking their OC was too good for 4chan is maybe like 10% of the problem. Most of it is the disintegration of community plus this now-ascendant notion that everything you can do the nips already did better so why bother.

>>1918126
i agree that all that really needs to go is the 3d, idol, and celeb/seiyuu shit, especially fucking JAV. monstergirl probably needs to go to one of the 3 other boards that general exists on. the rest are fine.

people want to trash all generals withoit providing a reason as to why we should ever get rid of extremely on-topic threads that are better condensed like Touhou Gameplay, Elona, or any of the buyfag generals, which are all on topic

>>19182802
>disintegration of community
Wouldn't have happened with good OC.
>plus this now-ascendant notion that everything you can do the nips already did better so why bother.
Also (obviously) wouldn't happen with good OC.

>>19182859
I'd say it was the continuous three-year tidal wave of shitposting that helped drive off any sense of community, but if you think that declining OC was the cause of the problem rather than a symptom you're entitled to your assessment. I guess in some ways it happened to every board.

>>19182546
>4chan itself used to be otaku culture, no reason to keep supporting it all being crammed into a few boards.

When and why did this change?

>/jp/ really was just meant to hold anything about anime otaku media that wasn't anime or manga, meaning figurines and other goods, vns, light novels, technically things like Kancolle belong here.

I would actually want to have figure threads, but would the mods remove them as being off topic? Same with "other goods".

>>19183088
"Figures and other otaku paraphernalia" are still listed in the rules as being /jp/.

How viable is Mima in the current /jp/ metagame?

>>19183371
Classic meme, expect a reworking in the next couple of years. We're working on a new patch to buff her further. Wait warmly until then kudasai.

>>19161061
lemme show you my EA

>>19161061
Remember the time when there was more than a dozen Yukari threads all at once?

>>19183088
>When and why did this change?
Because 4chan got big and instead of driving people off or keeping it the way it was, moot pandered to them with a bunch of boards.

>>19183088
>I would actually want to have figure threads, but would the mods remove them as being off topic? Same with "other goods".
Buyfag shit was in the literal first post on /jp/ as being on-topic, and would obviously be on topic here. We have threads for otaku merchandise like dolls, dakis, fumos, and even onaholes, why wouldn't figs be allowed? If you want a thread for them, make it.

>>19184035

>>19184993
It’s going to happen again

>>19184035
Check your rank again gilgamesh

>>19161061

First of all, I believe this board would improve drastically if we removed any and all Mokou threads, Mokou posts, and Mokou images.

>>19185855
How about killing yourself Kaguya? Oh wait...

How to fix /jp/:
-castrate everyone before they can post here so every post stops being a variation of "I want to have sex"
-permanent meta rolling sticky so that we can make fun of janny there
-random chance of having every post be posted in /qa/ instead (and viceversa, /qa/ posts can be randomly posted here)
-before posting 4chan checks your browser cookies and if it detects any social media cookies it changes the text to I'M A HUGE FAGGOT in a rainbow font
-I get declared King of /jp/. Whenever I'm not posting on a thread, everyone should ask "Where's King of /jp/?"
-All idol threads are banned, only discussion of enka singers is allowed

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- Make a secret VIP /jp/ board that can only be accessed by clicking in the front page Sachiko 500 times.
- Every post that doesn't have an image of Yaju Senpai attached has a random chance of being permabanned

>>19190408
Good post

Who are your favorite posters? I like the guy that posts nonsense with unrelated images and the guy that gets very angry when the word art is used to talk about drawings.

>>19190408
ACTUAL good post

>>19190493
Proremiriat Elite Fart Commander

>>19161089
First board only with people with good taste. Second board with people with shit taste

oh wait

>>19190493
I like you, anon.

>>19190493
I'm ashamed to have started several posting trends that I regret.

>>19190493
>I like the guy that posts nonsense with unrelated images
Isn't that just some sort of bot? There's no way he's an actual human being

>>19190493
tenshi eating a corndog

>>19181265
This.

JAV stuff belongs on /hc/
Gravure stuff belongs on /s/
Idol stuff belongs on /mu/
Seiyuu/actress/celeb stuff belongs on /tv/

90% problems of /jp/ solved

Oh, and monstergirl stuff belongs on /d/

>>19191969
First of all mods belong to hell, otherwise nothing will change.

Report every new 3Dshit thread.

>>19191810
I've thought that too sometimes, but his posts are way too coherent and varied to be a bot, he always posts different stuff in every post. Besides if someone were to use a bot in 4chan they would do it to spam threads they don't like, but this guy makes 2 posts at most per thread and then leaves.

Oh by the way that's a very good post number (Hidden meaning)

>>19193147
>>19191810

I miss bots.

>>19161231
Nothing but dumb flamewars every thread

>>19161061
I read that as meat thread. I was thoroughly disappointed.

Maru姉貴すき

>>19161089
Delete /jp/ and make /gsk/ and /yf/.
/gsk/ - 幻想郷 (or some other name) for 2hu, LN, VN, some generals from /vg/ provided they are not too autistic. Dump all the other shit in /yf/ - Yellow fever, the idols, the jav, djt whatever. If the posting speed and amount of threads in /yf/ is insufficient delete the board, ban their threads on sight on any other board. Range ban if they keep raiding.

>>19202614
Add in forced anonymity for /gsk/. No trips or namefags. Fuck them.

>>19161401
Belongs in the trash.

>>19202934

>>19161061
I hate meta threads.
Do you want to know why?

They virtually solve absolutely nothing.
We can talk and complain all we want, nothing will change. Any and all talk about what might help the boards which have these threads are seemingly ignored, It is lost in the dust. It will be like any other thread on the board. Posted in and forgotten only for small subjects that will be beaten to death and trampled over as things continue the way they are.
Self moderation? Yeah. Works. Barely.
Unless it gets an obscene amount of reports or breaks a rule, it isn't leaving. And there isn't anything you can do about it. It all remains the same.
Why the fuck do we have these threads to "make things better" if nothing happens. Nothing changes. It's all seemingly worthless and a waste of time. Nothing changes! One thread comes, and it goes. You say the same thing and you leave. It all still heads the same path while also losing what made that board unique.
Waaaaa,, remove this thread please. It's a problem
No thanks. You better bitch hard because it isn't going.
"x doesn't belong here"
"why is this allowed?"
"why do threads devolve into meta and upsetting arguments?"
There is no more unity. Nobody agrees on anything in general.
/jp/ at this point is split, and it should be no surprise that it's split between "3DPD shouldn't be here;generals shouldn't be here" "y is on another board/y is on so many boards, so why is it here" and "this (/jp/) is the touhou board. it belings to touhou"
No matter how much we whine or speak among ourselves and see what can be done to make things better and make posters happier to be here, it won't change. This changes nothing. We can do nothing.

"More OC please"
Sorry, OC isn't allowed. Go to the general and be flooded out like a piece of shit.
"Original threads please"
Sorry, this "thread has been pruned or deleted"
"Stop doing x."
"Make me, bitch. *shitposts harder*"

It is refreshing to see some unique threads pop up because the same shit is on the front page 24/7.
There is no variety. People rarely listen anymore. A lot can be fixed by listening.

People also only take hints about what is and isn't allowed by reaction.
If people generally hate it, the same subject is less likely to show up again. Things only become allowed if they're allowed in small batches. The batch becomes larger as people find no issue in it being a smaller majority. The more people ignore it, the larger it becomes. All until it floods everything out.
"Filter shit you don't like"
My ass. Ignoring things doesn't mean it isn't there. It is only a matter of time before it becomes all you see.

>>19202991
There's the threadly wall-o.txt.

>>19202934
always so angry.
Geez.
>>19161398
>Parseeum
How about Parseeable

>>19161398
Zunon

>>19190408
Fake and gay

>>19182546
>Although that was kinda tied in a bit with the stuff that left to /r9k/.
/r9k/ has become one of the staunchest anti-Japanese culture boards on 4chan in the past two years. Anything /jp/ related there withers and dies, and should be imported provided its users don't bring in additional robots: /qa/ and /bant/ are good examples of what happens when you let them immigrate into a board unrestricted.

>>19161089
/idol/
>kpop, akb48, jpop

/jp/
>2hus, and lewdhus

>>19161068
FPBP