/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>19176750
very good OP image

DJT irae
More like DJT iranai

Post your favorite 四字熟語.

ops a fag

>>19176760
no seriously this might be the single best djt op image ever

Someone linked me to this: https://tunein.com/radio/Japan-r101255/

Anyone got any recommendations for stations I can listen to to improve my comprehension?

>>19176777
Have you tried browsing it? You could be the guy to make all the radio recs.

>>19176765
馬鹿外人

I know the anki core 2k always gets recommended but I prefer using paper flash cards for learning. Is there a way to extract the vocabulary list from anki? Or does someone have a good core vocabulary list I can write onto flashcards?

when should I learn grammar?

>>19176777
i don't know radio stations, but if you don't know where to start, i expect something in tokyo will be easier because of dialect

>>19176774
https://www.strawpoll.me/15851041

>>19176809
if you vote for anything other than
>deliver us "jamal"
you're a cop

>>19176765
弱肉強食

>>19176784
are you really going to make 2000 paper flashcards? i once made paper kana flashcards and that was shitty enough. i also still sucked at kana. turns out physical cards are overrated.
anyway, import the deck in anki, click the gear next to the deck, export, change format to notes in plain text. i think it's csv so you can easily import the result it into a spreadsheet program. how messy it will be depends on how many useless fields the specific version of the core deck you grab has.

you know i was gonna write some shit about how if youre some idiot flash card doer you should make every single one by hand but in a blinding flash of satori i realized that if you physically make them they are going to be imperfect in craftsmanship and those imperfections might cause you to start remembering what card is what for reasons other than the nihongo which is very unacceptable

>>19176817
Not at once of course but probably over time. Flash cards always helped me for other languages as well and I think over all the years I probably made hundreds of them.

Thanks mate. I downloaded two different core sets onto AnkiDroid, but one is just listening (text appears after I click Show Answer) and the other one has the English word, tons of Japanese text and when I click show answer it shows the word in Japanese. I bet that helps a lot of people, but I just want them to be simpler, for example it shows me 歩く and I translate it. (If there's a simple deck like this and I'm just an idiot for overseeing it I apologize in advance.)

>>19176844
What do you mean exactly with imperfections? Like folds in the corner or something?

How many years of learning Japanese does it take to be able to read Dies Irae's sequel?

>>19176866
two if you do it well

>>19176844
for a bailed shitpost this is a good point, you wont distinguish シツ by their appearance but by which one ended up with a straighter third stroke or a wiggle in it or some shit

I've learned a lot of the Joyo Kanji so far. Should I start trying to learn words now or just wait until I know all the JOyo?

>>19176874
read nigga read

>>19176855
literally any fuckin thing that would make it physically discernible from another card

cause i highly doubt someone itt is gonna properly measure and draw straight lines and use a proper paper cutter

now for all the high iq brainiacs in this thread do you know why this matters for kanjis versus if you made flashcards for multiplication tables?

>>19176882
>use a proper paper cutter
You... do know there's pre-cut flashcards in any size and shape you can just buy...

>>19176874
you should make up your own mind because the only responses you're going to get are mostly "don't do rtk" and a small fraction of "finish all of rtk first"
also if there's a right answer no one knows what it is

>>19176891
thats not doin it right

you gotta make them to really drill it all in your head

>>19176882
>do you know why this matters for kanjis versus if you made flashcards for multiplication tables?
i would guess that it's because you already know the digits very well and are much more focused on what the equation says than what it looks like

>>19176919
thats right!! the stuff on the times tables cards you already know and the point is for that stuff you know on the card to make you remember something else involving whats on the card

>>19176816
kek

>>19176774
Lacks pedo text in the background.

I know Japanese.

>>19177102
You don't know Japanese.

>>19177102
でも、知っていますか

is it normal to be able to do japanese > english vocab significantly better than english > jp? I probably know close to 600-800 vocab by now but when i try to recall some of them the other way around I struggle pretty hard. How should I remedy this? Is there a English > JP core2k/6k?

>>19177257
You are retarded.

>How should I remedy this?
Read more.

Fuck off.

>>19177292
did you even read what I wrote? I can read just fine, but I can't recall words for shit when constructing sentences.

>>19177292
>how to be a rude jackass: the post

ああそう。
好きにしろ

>>19177302
>I can read just fine
No you can't as you have admitted yourself.

>>19177303
Being a retarded EOP doesn't even warrant a reply.

>>19177257
just flip the deck dumb cunt

>>19177257
Watch Naruto, pause in between heated conversations and become a part of them by yelling something like お前何者だ

>>19177257
don't practice english->jp it's a waste of time and builds extremely bad habits
>>19177302
don't construct sentences when you suck at the language it's a waste of time and builds extremely bad habits

you're welcome

>>19175848
>Probably 95% or more of the .srt files are from official sources. If they have SDH tags (<sound of wind>, <character name>) they are likely from Netflix, if they don't then they're probably from Bandai Channel or a TV broadcast rip. Just incidentally I believe every Gundam and Macross series was from Bandai Channel.
>Presumably 100% of the .sup and other image-based files are from official sources as they are from BD rips, and there is no reason for an unofficial transcription to use a more inconvenient format.
>Lastly, all but one or two of the .ass files are from unofficial sources, namely manual transcriptions by Chinese fansubbers like Kamigami. I have noticed errors in these before, especially in OP and ED lyrics, so just be careful with these.
What % would you estimate to be official vs fan-made?

My main hesitation with using Japanese subs up to this point has been that most of the ones on kitsunekko seem to be Chinese and contain errors as you mention.

>>19177257
the only time you should be doing en→jp is when youre doing your anime 10k and consulting your day one reference materials

after that its time to get your butt ass to school

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwaHSesrXVo

>>19177558
>anime 10k
Uh, it's actually called the ``Finnish method''.

its anime 10k or your gay

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/8paeq4/should_i_learn_how_to_write_katakana/

Your daily dose of reddit idiocy. 21 replies to a thread asking if one should learn katakana.

Check back tomorrow for your daily dose of reddit idiocy.

>>19176784
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1urrsGvZMUPGIesqG3tE4beGusgU2rAlpoeeEqxuQ8y0/edit#gid=804588265

>>19176777
There's some stuff about radio on the resources guide. If you're wondering why some of the stations on tunein don't work, then go read that.

>>19176882
I just print mine out like this and fold them
>>19176899
When I started physical flash cards, I first did the entire thing by hand, then printed the kanji and wrote the back by hand and now I just print the entire thing. Absolutely no difference that I've found and I did the first two for weeks each.

It's not some hard shit for most parts so nothing prevents you from reading it with a dictionary if you know around 10k words. You may still don't understand something but dies irae is sht so it doesn't matter. Kajiri kamui kagura uses characters no one understands (like here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJW_43_ML2c ) and it succeeds in being shit too.

>>19177621
thats gonna trigger some boys right there

good on you though mate

>>19177602
Don't promote your own reddit threads here.

How far did you get into RTK before you realized that you'd gotten used to Kanji to the point you could remember them and their readings in context and didn't need to associate a keyword with them?

>>19177602
no, they asked if they should learn to write katakana. a subtle difference. it makes the question less stupid and more stupid at the same time in different ways.

>>19177621
i really like your example it's very suge

free suge knight

おはようおにいちゃん

こわいゆめみた

たすけて

>>19176765
How could I only pick one? 一つだけを選ぶのは無理でしょう？

連戦連敗
贔屓贔屓
戦意喪失
疑心暗鬼
孤独奮闘
舌先三寸
煩悩愚息
一人相撲
古今東西
臥薪嘗胆
画竜点睛
五里霧中
百花繚乱
栄枯盛衰
侃々諤々
情状酌量
波乱万丈
諸行無常
時代錯誤
阿鼻叫喚
運否天賦
優柔不断
自由奔放
驚天動地
曖昧模糊

And what about 五字熟語?
知的好奇心
屋根裏部屋

あれは夢じゃない

現実です

>>19177818
i hope someone flies a 飛行機 into your post

>>19177818
messed one up:
>煩悩愚息
should be 煩悩具足
>>19177824
Rude, I just like 四字熟語.

>>19177818
Weak list. How do you defend yourself from disaster?

>>19176765
桑原桑原

>>19176765
>四字熟語
4 character mellow word?

とらしちんちん？

>>19177839
>How do you defend yourself from disaster?
What did he mean by this?

>>19177602

>>19177843
look at all the meanings of 熟す and take a guess at which one applies

>>19176750
Matt isn't on either side.

He's not an Anki drone nor a Genki dekinai

thats right matts just gay

>>19177981
Meant *core6k drone

>>19177845
虎視眈々だばか

How do I get to Nukemarine's level?

>>19178003
leave this thread and chill exclusively on reddit

>>19176765
春夏秋冬

>>19178003
Last I heard he barely studies and is a self-admitted N3 now so shouldn't be too hard.

>>19178021
He streams himself doing sentence cards he pulled from Terrace House every night.

>>19177981
you're right, need a front profile image in the center surrounded by rays of enlightenment
a big 旭日旗 behind his face

has anyone asked this "nukemarine" if hes actually trying to learn nihongo?

maybe hes just a big fan of nihongo and enjoys it especially how pretty it sounds and looks on the flashcards

>tfw gotta do my anki reps
>sleepy as hell
never gonna make it.

>>19178054
He seems to be trying to quell his mid life "oh shit I havent done anything with my life" crisis by trying to grow his Japanese teaching epeen

>>19178062
>not doing your reps as soon as you wake up

>>19178083
>not doing reps on the shitter

>>19178083
I like to do my reps as soon at resets (12:01am) and then custom study forgotten cards next morning. great results so far.

むかしむかし、ある町に、とても貧乏(びんぼう)な家がありました。
住んでいるのは、心の優しい女の子とお母さんの二人です。

ある日の事、この家には食べる物が、もう何もなくなってしまいました。
「困ったわね。すまないが森へ行って、木の実を拾って来ておくれ」
女の子はお母さんに言われて、森へ木の実を拾いに行きました。

すると、一人のおばあさんが現れて尋ねました。
「おや、こんな森の中に一人で来るなんて。どうしたんだい？」
「はい、家には食べる物が何もないので、木の実を拾いに来ました」
「そうかい、それは感心だねえ。じゃあ、おばあさんが良い物をあげよう」

そう言っておばあさんは、女の子に古ぼけたおナベをくれました。
それは、とても不思議なおナベでした。

おナベに向かって、
「おナベよ、煮えろ」
と、言うと、温かくておいしいおかゆが自然に出て来て、
「おナベよ、止まれ」
と、言うまで、おかゆは出て来るのです。
おかげで女の子もお母さんも、お腹が空いて困る事はなくなりました。

ある日、女の子が隣の町へ出かけた後で、お母さんはおかゆが食べたくなりました。
そこで女の子の真似をして、
「おナベよ、煮えろ」
と、言ってみました。
すると、おナベはちゃんとおかゆを作ってくれました。
ところがお母さんは、おかゆの止め方を知らなかったのです。
「おナベよ、もういらないよ。お腹は一杯だよ」

いくらお母さんがそう言っても、おかゆはどんどん煮えて、おナベからあふれ出しました。
やがておかゆは台所からあふれ出ると、家中をいっぱいにして、とうとう家の外へ流れ出しました。
それでもおかゆは、止まりません。
隣の家も、その隣の家も、そのまた隣の家も、とうとう町中がおかゆだらけになってしまい、町の人たちもみんなおかゆに流されていきます。

そして、おかゆが町はずれまで来た時、隣の町から女の子が帰って来ました。
女の子は、ビックリして言いました。

「おナベよ、止まれ！！」
やっと、おかゆは止まりました。
その後、町の人たちは町中にあふれているおかゆを少しずつ食べながら、自分の家へ帰って行ったそうです。

使い方を知らないの物を勝手に使うと、とんでもない事になると言うお話しでした。

>>19178129
>貧乏(びんぼう)
Stopped reading there

>>19178129
うみがしょっぱくなったはなしの

ぱくりじゃない？

>>19178129

>that moment of eureka when you make sense of a random sentence you read online.
we all gonna make it friends.

there was a horrifying moment in my life today when i realized i could now read yaraon at a fairly decent speed and the vision of me spending all of my free time reading japanese shitposting for the rest of my life flashed before my eyes

i started reading again after a month of being a lazy shit only maintaining my vocab reps and the grammar is easier than it was before, what gives

>>19178179
Who are you quoting?

I just failed to recognize like half my repeated cards for anki review. Should i just kys myself?
Is there a way to further review cards without fucking up Anki's algorithm?

>>19178234
Custom study forgotten cards, bad days happen to all of us.

>>19178234
i wish i could help you but every time i try to install anki from the diskette i get this error

>tfw every other day is 85% and the other is 70% because I forget the same words every day

>>19178238
thanks bud

>>19178242
what the fug

>>19178247
enable suspending of leeches

>>19178247
I'm the same way. Just do custom study for them or be based and make physical flash cards.

>>19178264
how many fails to leech and when do you come back to them

>core drones struggling with leeches
>Matt being compared to Genki

No one is gonna make it

まあ みんな元気?

>>19178270
You can never come back for them. I unsuspended some leeches from the literal first 3 months of studying and I fail 就職　and 給料 every 5 days, I guarantee you I won't remember them when I see them in two days

t. 4500 words and unique 1850 kanji

>>19178277
Everyone here has already made it (except for you).
We're all just roleplaying as learners because we long for the good old days.

>>19178277
You already made this post in the last thread

>>19177621
>Kekon
die

>>19178270
Just leave it default. It's not like you can only memorize words via Anki. If Anki isn't working for you when it comes to a particular word for whatever reason, just let it suspend the card and forget about it. You'll learn it eventually from listening and reading instead.

I started talking to this chinese girl who is currently studying in japan the other day, and she made it to N2 in 7 months. What the fuck?
All her lectures and classes are in japanese.

How is this even possible. Anyways, she is helping me with Japanese now

>>19178294
It's easier to remember that way. How upset would you be if I told you I usually write in cyrillic instead of romaji?

>>19178277
>>Matt being compared to Genki
is steve being compared to namasensei
you're reading too deeply into meme wars, djt doesn't like matt and so matt goes on the reddit side
the real question is where's based krashen

>>19178306
basted

>don't tell people to learn Japanese from anime or they'll go around saying "omae" without knowing how bad it really is
I can't tell if people are serious when they make this argument because the biggest problem with language learning is getting motivated enough to bother with it, and if anime is what motivates you then god bless. It's not like you can't just move on to other mediums to refine your speech later. This seems like a complete non-issue but I've seen circlejerk retards bitching about it in several threads now.

>>19178306
are you really remembering it if you don't know how to say it
why would i care one way or the other which form of dekinai transliteration you prefer

>>19178307
it would be a disgrace to an actual scholarly person like mr krashen to be lumped in with the likes of the riff raff in that image for this riff raff thread on this riff raff board

>>19178306
>It's easier to remember that way
the fuck

>>19178284
Funny how easy cards can be difficult for others. I used to fail 進行 and 行進.

>>19178318
>>19178324
I'm a dekinai, no problem admitting it but I don't really get what you are referring to. I simply convert the hiragana from the back of the core card to romaji/cyrillic. What's the issue?

>>19178317
>I can't tell if people are serious
some people are memeing but a few truly believe that they are that incompetent and that learning from the wrong media will scar them for life
it's too bad we aren't pattern recognition machines huh

俺様のパワーみせてやれえ！

so what's the difference between
思う and 考える

>>19178358

>>19178358
と思う

>>19178358
Don't think, feel.

>>19178335
i'm unsure if you are being genuine, but chouon and sokuon actually matter, they aren't just written for style

>>19178372
>chouon and sokuon

the what?

https://www.outlier-linguistics.com/japanese-blog/what-is-etymology-1
Etymology is really interesting. Too bad corruption makes Kanji a non-intuitive shitty band-aid system.

向日葵　「ひまわり」

name a more unintuitive reading than this, what the fuck?

>>19178378
doubled vowels and small tsu

>>19178358
it's the difference between "I think you are an idiot" and "when I'm thinking about who's an idiot your face comes to mind"

>>19178307
>djt doesn't like matt

It's literally just the ratatta autist that made the image that doesn't like him.

>>19178372
Oh, that's what you mean. Yeah, I usually include an indication for that but didn't for this one as I learned how to pronounce it a while ago and was just reviewing the kanji.

I only use physical flash cards to rote learn daily new cards and the ones I forget each day, so in this case I didn't bother to include that as I had forgotten the kanji but not the pronunciation.

>>19178307
>djt doesn't like matt and so matt
I don't get why Matt gets such a bad rap here. Sure, he's a bit of an autist, but doesn't that go for basically everyone here as well?

>>19178419
No, aside from being sick fuck pedos that jerk off to cartoon analogues for prepubescent children, everyone here is very well adjusted socially.

>>19178419
it's bad hop
https://youtu.be/ApUhwNwUO84

>>19178397
i see, thanks anon.

People that hate Matt know he's right but are jealous of his progress

Watch Terrace House

>>19178419
You shouldn't like somebody who doesn't use water bottles for the sole purpose of 水分補給.

>>19178435
He's good at Japanese and he gives a lot of good advice but it's his messiah complex that irritates people.

>>19178430
Thanks for another sick ビート, my ninja.

good old bald ass piss juggin neckbearded and likely soon to be fedora wearing matt

hes ok at japanese good is not even in the conversation

Someone go on his discord and ask him what he even does with his Japanese nowadays. Also ask him for his MAL, he definitely seems like the type to have either that or a txt on his desktop.

>>19178401
I made the image. Matt is on the right because it's supposed to be "djt vs everything else" or "djt vs that other shit" and matt is not djt so he goes on the right, and I couldn't resist the matt/rattata head to head.
I didn't create and have never posted about rattata, but it's actually good as long as the amphetamines are optional and you can add SRS if you want.

>>19178307
I would have put Krashen on the left but there wasn't enough space. The only connection Krashen has to the right is matt, I don't think reddit likes him.

>RTK not on the left

retarded

>>19178461
Matt watched a lot of anime to git gud and confirmed in an interview with BenAJATT that he has a MAL.

replace money with nihongo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGTHI-J5JiE#t=30

>>19178461
>Also ask him for his MAL
He might've lost his account like I did. They had some security fuck up recently and are forcing everyone to change their passwords as a result, but in order to get your new password you have to give them the email address associated with your account, and since I made mine the best part of a decade ago, I have no idea what fucking email address I used and probably don't remember the password to it anymore anyway.

I can always make another one I guess, but it means adding hundreds of shows back into my list, and I'll never get the start and finish dates for when I watched everything back. Shit sucks.

>>19178390
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>19178445
>his messiah complex
i've seen so much worse that it barely even registers to me. he's a bit of a cunt. so are most people.

by the way the jug didn't look like it had piss in it to me am i blind?

競技
競争
戦争
戦況
作戦
戦陣

I can't learn Japanese

>>19178568
What jug are we talking about here? Link?

>>19178467
>it's supposed to be "djt vs everything else" or "djt vs that other shit"

Well you fucked that up cause RTK is literally part of the djt guide (don't tell me it doesn't count because it's optional, everything in the guide is fucking optional)

>>19176750
>no ぞい子 in the image

>>19176750
We don't use the botnet here. Shit image OP

>>19178571
DJT is like a continuous きょうぎ and there you get into a きょうそう with other autists and せんそう breaks out
the せんきょう doesn't look too well for you, because it's your さくせん to defend Matt so your せんじん collapses

>>19178594
it's cool to hate rtk right now. it's also cool to hate the guide. you care too much about the op image, it's a meme about memes.

how many weeks of 2+ hours of daily practice does it take until you're able to consistently differentiate grammar/particle kana from words, even if you don't know what the words are?

>>19178649
10000 hours of subbed anime or your gay

>>19178649
how about you start reading manga and figure it out yourself

>>19178661
Manga isn't reading though.

>>19178661
I'm not gonna start reading until late August or early September but I feel deep anxiety when I see Japanese sentences, knowing that using dictionaries from programs like Yomichan might be misleading at times for a beginner because of non-word kana.

>>19178719
you are literally shooting yourself in the foot by not starting reading as soon as you can.

>>19178728
I heard reading is way easier to develop than listening ability so I'm just working on listening and RTK for now.

I don't mind not having feet cause I got those 日本語の翼

>>19178700
it is reading, but low-tier

>>19178719
>>19178733

>>19178739
I'm not baiting. Isn't this shit common? I know DJT recommends reading as soon as possible but a few months of waiting isn't that bad.

>>19178748

>>19178649
>>19178719
you're not being very clear, are you talking about the 2+ hours of reading that you're going to do in 3 months or about 2+ hours of raw anime that you're doing now? with or without reading at least the first half of tae kim?

>>19178766
>the 2+ hours of reading that you're going to do in 3 months
This. I'm currently doing about 4 hours of daily raw anime right now but it wasn't the point of my post. I haven't read Tae Kim because I heard it might distract from RTK, but I have so much free time I feel like I could avoid that problem if I do one in the morning and the other in the evening.

>>19178777
>I haven't read Tae Kim because I heard it might distract from RTK

>>19178430
>>19178449
Damn, this really is great. I can't stop listening.

Got anything else that's similar? Where do you find this stuff?

there are people who are watching incomprehensible raw anime RIGHT NOW

>>19178828
I've learned "naruhodo" and "gomen" after 18 hours this week so I'd say it's more than worth it.

>>19178777
if you read tae kim it's possible you'll distinguish particles and conjugation from verbs reasonably often before you start reading. all you need to do is get a loose understanding of how it works and even without knowing what the particles or conjugations are actually doing it'll start to stand out to you. i'm not against the idea of anime before reading potentially teaching you something, but it seems highly inefficient to me without familiarizing yourself with grammar.
all i can say is it didn't take me very long. you'll occasionally be wrong for a while, but you'll be able to make a decent guess for most strings of kana in easy manga after a matter of days. the dialects in something like yotsubato were a bigger issue but they are also fairly regular and start to stand out and be easy to guess.

>>19178748
You're fine dude

>>19178844
Will do, thanks.

>>19178777
I casually read Tae Kim while working through RTK. Learning should be fun and I wanted to do it though, just do whatever you want

>few choice filters
>half the new thread already hidden
unsalvageable
Whoever is remaking, just let it die. We both know you don't really care about newcomers

>>19178805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qTbRyQ_qY0

>>19178922
dont blame the rest of the thread for the foolish choices you make

I'm skimming through Tae Kim's guide, but I don't understand the difference between

誰が学生？
学生は誰？

What does he mean when he says that the second sentence is simply talking about the student rather than seeking to identify them?

>>19178969
This is straight trash man

>>19178980
you dont even know what they say

Not an argument

youre right im saying get on the level

>>19178922
but then where would i go to watch the piggies roll around in the mud or to drop a fat shitpost every once in a while

I hereby declare DJT dead
please leave the premises

Look ma! I'm necroposting!

and this is how djt died

not with a cry

but with a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwTGLqgDkzA&t=937s

>>19179024
With a wet smelly fart?

>>19178976
The first sentence is something you might ask if I showed you a picture of 3 people wearing identical clothes and told you one of them was a student.

The second sentence is what you might ask if I showed you a picture of 3 people and one of them was wearing a school uniform.

>>19178976
dont worry thats just tyler kim having a bit of an identity crisis

>>19179043
Thank you.

>>19179030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21tgS8r3BcE#t=74

>>19178284
Why only 1850 kanji with 4500 words

Do you mine different forms of the same word or something like 見つける and 見つかる?

>>19166570
Did you run into any subs formatted like this when working on your project?

>(
>男性
>)
>なんだ？


Do you know of any way to mass-remove the
>(
>男性
>)
bit? Or at least remove the paragraphs so it becomes
>(男性)
?

Friendly reminder to give up.

>>19179062
おふろって

おならでるよね

>>19179212
Any text editor that lets you match newlines such as Notepad++. While you're at it, learn basic regular expressions and your entire life will become 100% easier

>>19176750
Is there any dictionary that only has examples from modern japanese? Examples from classical Japanese are not useful at all.

おなかすいた

だぶるそふと

たべたい

>>19179553
are you doing sentence mining

threads closed guys go home

>>19179571
Not really, why?

>>19179553
If a word in Daijisen has an example in classical Japanese it generally means the usage is archaic.

>>19179583
This is home

Someone should make a bilingual dictionary sentence deck so that I won't have to when I try to make the j-j switch.

>>19179698
I'm so glad I didn't fall for this particular cult.

>>19179698
Why the fuck would you use sentences for that?
I would be interested in an example list of dictionary vocabulary though.

>>19179698
>pre-made decks

wtf is wrong with you? I mean yeah I know most people in this thread are core-tards but if you're doing sentences I would assume you're not following djt so what the fuck are you doing?

>>19179740
>I would be interested in an example list of dictionary vocabulary though.

just mine dictionary entries, they're out there waiting for you

heres some starters for your bilingual sentence deck

私はゲイ→as for watarshi・・gay
みんな元気?→as for minna・・genki?

>>19179680
あいわなごほーむ

I came across 出撃 in a dictionary entry. WTF is a sortie?

>>19179950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzkpVJUNaJg

I came across the phrase 壺買わされそう today. Trying to find out what it means but haven't been able to find a solid definition of it. So far, it seems to be related to this folktale

http://hukumusume.com/douwa/pc/jap/04/05.htm

since most of the example I found seems to be related to buying stuff and not getting what they wanted

There's also this, which seems to be someone's ramblings about how she uploaded a picture of a handsome guy as her profile pic then got triggered because she got hit on

http://chiroru1006.hateblo.jp/entry/20161111/1478846620

>>19180034
google + 壷 + 買わされる
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1126264186

る -> そう

> 4th month of studying English
> vocabulary ~2500
> can communicate in simple sentences
> no longer need textbooks in my language

> 4th month of studying Japanese
> vocabulary ~800
> have difficulties with the manga marked "Easy" in the reading list
> finished 5 chapters of TKGG, still haven't reached "Intermediate" on imabi

Is it because Japanese is more difficult, or am I just not putting enough effort into it?

God I hate anki, I just want to finish core10k so I can read finally

>>19180068
japanese probably has less in common than english with your native language, or if you think not then blame the learning curve of kanji
less than 10 words a day is low
why is tae kim taking so long, just read it, don't obsess over it, you're going to have to look shit up regardless
imabi is too much information, you're wasting time with it at this point

>>19179952

>>19180068
>needing to study english
lol look at this fucking 3rd worlder

>候補に上る
In this sentence, is 上がる read as あがる? The premade anki deck I have says のぼる but this deck is trash...
I wasn't able to find anything on weblio.jp, but yomichan makes me believe あがる is the right answer.

how many kanji do i need to know to read unko chan

tree fiddy, unironically

>>19180129
compare those two carefully

>>19179952
When is this pasta gonna die?

>>19180142
I feel like you're referring to my typo (上がる).
上る read as あがる is what I meant but it was too many spacebar presses away.

So: RTK->Tae Kim->Bilingual Sentence Cards->Monolingual Sentence Cards
Idk why I ask for confirmation here but how does this look?

>tfw can't tell if i'm improving a good amount or not because i'm way too hard on myself

>>19180185
That's what I did, except I did Tae Kim + Japanese the Manga Way. ;)
...and when you say sentence cards, I only had the definition of the *new* word. No translations.
t. I'm at 9k+ cards and haven't read shit since manga isn't reading.

>>19180200
I'm thinking sentence on the front then definitions of the words I don't know in the back. And sweet, can't wait to not read too.

>>19180185
You forgot 10000 hours of anime

>>19180212
Well I'm in /jp/ so that was going to come in regardless

>>19180199
>tfw can't tell if i'm improving a good amount or not because i'm already pretty much fluent

>wake up too early
>anki day hasn't even started

>>19180127
> losing the birth lottery somehow makes me inferior to a lowercase posting mouth breather
> the Anglosphere represents the entirety of the 1st world
> being a filthy EOP is something you should take pride in

>>19180240
dont put spaces after the carrots

>>19180245
Put a carrot in your ass and stop telling me what to do, faggot.

>>19180249
dont put spaces after the comma

>>19180240
please stop abusing the quotational markers

>>19180253
I'll stop when everyone else stops.

>>19180254
Please stop replying to the lowercase poster(s).

If a word i mine is already in core I'll just copy it from core into the mine deck. The mine deck even has the same template to keep continuity

>>19180259
Dumbest shit I've read all day.

いっしょに

べんきょうしよー

金 is the best looking kanji used for a day of the week.

>>19180289
I like 水 more.

>>19180289
I like 火 more.

>>19180266
Yomichan won't add new kanji cards if there's an existing kanji in other decks. How do you personally mine and how can I mine more effectively?

じゃあ六曜は？どれがいい？

>>19180313
I aim to not adhere to inane software limitations.

>>19180289
>>19180294
>>19180297
ろくよう

にほんだけだとおもう

太陰太陽暦のなごり

ちょっとまえまでは七曜じゃなくて

六曜だったみたい

まちがっててもあたしはわるくない

>>19180343
Where did you learn to mine like that?

>>19180366
What you're referring to as mining, is in fact, GNU/Mining, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Mining.

>>19180313
Only if it's the same card type. Nobody is forcing you to reuse the Core6k template.

>>19180401
Oh that makes sense. Part of the reason i copied the template was because i read an anon remembered cards because he had images with them and only remembered those images. I knew my mined cards would look different and this may or may not have an affect on my remembrance. In hindsight I may have been overthinking.
>>19180395
Thank you. I will look into this

>>19180429
You are aware you can make your own card type with every possible field you could possibly need even beyond core? Core is bloated to be honest, tons of unneeded fields and they make shitty cards to edit.

３０年６月８日仏滅

>>19178284
If you have leeches, add more words with the same kanji readings for their kanji to your deck. If you struggle with 訓読み, it's where you're fucked.

>>19178129
Now this is reading.

So should it be 神O風 or 風O神?
In what direction did they read in 1941?

>>19176750
Hey guise what's the best japanese dictionnary?

>>19180712
both of those are intended to be 神風

>>19180602
it's acutally 大安 today

>>19180719
I know, but they didn't choose the direction at random when they were making those bands during the war, right?
Seems like "神O風" is something made up by modern-day Japs.

>>19180723
what the fuck does that have to do with learning japanese

>>19180728
Little, but who else gives a fuck on this website? /his/ ?

>>19180728
みぎからもよむよ

ひだりからよめなかったら

みぎからよむ

>>19180738
use kanji i cant read shit bruh

>>19180738
> pic
Now that I think about it, I often see Japanese trucks and there's always some shit written on them in katakana, but it doesn't even sound like Japanese.
Have I been reading it in the wrong direction all this time?

>>19180738
風神

ﾊﾟﾁﾊﾟﾁﾊﾟﾁはい終わり

>>19180750
右からも読むよ
左から読めなかったら
右から読む

>>19180763
右からも読むよ
左から読め無かったら
右から読む

>reading from the right
fucking savages
I bet it's jews' fault

>>19180766
俺のビールを持ってくれ

美伎可良毛与武与
比大利可良与女奈可多良
美伎可良与武

>>19166570
>>19174927
>>19175848
Since I'm only interested in those subs which were ripped straight from the Japanese BDs/DVDs with zero tampering, OCRing, etc. involved (which I therefore feel most confident in the reliability of), I decided to take the time to compile a list for myself of all the shows in your sub pack for which there are .SUP or .IDX/.SUB files (on the assumption that these all meet the aforementioned criteria).

Here it is for anyone else who's interested:
https://pastebin.com/yBTijuYP

>>19180786
god I wish that were me

>>19180776
I don't know how the fuck right --> left writing systems even developed. For right-handed people (i.e. the vast majority of the population), it means you wind up smudging everything you write with your hand as you move cross the page.

>>19180796
it's written top to bottom you fucking dumb cunt

>>19180800
Yeah, and from the right side to the left. The smudging issue doesn't go away just because you go down and then right.

>>19180808
Just don't touch the paper.

かがみもじかな

ニュートンせんせいがそれだったって

きいたことがある

まちがっててもあたしはわるくない

>>19180808
I'm assuming you think that chinese people used the same pen grip as anglo subhumans when they invented their language
I don't know why you'd assume that though since china and europe are in completely different parts of the world (unless you're an inbred anglo, then you have an excuse)

>nukemarine doesn't know ja-

>>19180776
It's the jews' fault that the switched to left -> right, in fact.

>>19180840
もじたんいで

さゆうぎゃくってのも

あるよ

>>19180834
whoops dude you forgot to complete your sentece
-panese
there you go dude be careful next time

>>19180786
Fuck off.

>>19180868
Why so aggro be nice man

>>19180786
>no Naruto
Into the trash it goes.

おしっこー

お口はトイレーじゃありません

>>19180962
でもロリなら、僕の口をトイレにしてもいい。

>>19180873
Fuck off cancer.

日本語は非常にハイコンテクストな言語ですが

>>19180946
聖水

Anyone here using Yomichan on Firefox?
I have it on Chrome and Firefox both, all same settings and for some reason 'Play Audio' feature (with JapanesePod101 source) works only on Chrome.
Is there something in firefox that prevents addons from playing audio?

黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人黒人

かみなりびかーってした

かみなりごろごろした

神鳴り

Do 国人 and 黒人 sound differently?
Seems like the former is こくꜜじん and the latter is こくじꜜん, but I could be wrong.

>>19181041
>Is there something in firefox that prevents addons from playing audio?
yeah noscript blocking japanesepod, or some other blocker

>>19181256
Why would he even be aware of noscript when he uses chrome?

>>19181199
くわばらくわばら

>>19180101
>I just want to finish core10k so I can read finally
I hope you're not serious.

>>19181220
>黒人
Thanks to RTK I guessed that this meant "black person" and I was right. Maybe you should think twice before criticizing RTK because apparently it helps you read even if it doesn't teach you to read.

somebody link the rtk vs google translate video

>>19181323
https://youtu.be/YqT_mLiTq7A?t=361

5ch doesn't work from my pc but it does from my phone, anyone else having the same problem or knows how to fix it?

I like how he mis-saw 体 as 休

>>19181311
So, you could understand one word, made up of two words each represented by a single kanji.
Well.
Congratulations.
Here one more word for you: 八百屋.

>>19181290
How am I supposed to read if I don't understand and have to look everything up?

>>19181362
The human brain is magic and will begin to understand things even though you know nothing.

>>19181332
>extinguish fire utensil
Thanks to RTK I knew what this meant too.
>>19181358
Haven't gotten to those Kanji besides "100".

>>19181358
Stop biting everything, fucking retards. If you are bored go study Japanese.

>>19181368
That wasn't bait you dumb fuck.

>>19181362
Looking things up.

>>19181371
How about you fuck off to reddit? You really sound you came from there asbyou believe what most people say here and even take the time to reply seriously to them.

>>>/r/learnjapanese/

>>19181376
I look the meaning up but i can't still figure out what it means. It's tough.

>>19181378
Reddit annoys me because they're not honest like you guys.
>>>/r/japancirclejerk/

>>19181332
> 1.5 years
> hasn't learned a word of Japanese
> couldn't tell 体 and 休 apart
Please don't be real.
And the fucking comment section. My fucking sides.
"W-W-well you wasted more than a year, b-but at least your memory has improved and that's very valuable".
Jesus H Christ.

>>19181384
That either means you're trying too hard or you're reading something that's too hard for you. Turn your brain off.

>>19181384
What? The words mean the thing the dictionary says they mean. More or less. Memorising more other words isn't going to make that work any better.

>>19181384
You should be reading/skimming/consulting Tae Kim regularly while you read as well.

>>19181418
dojg*
Tae Kim is for getting started.

>>19181436
what about some love for HJGP

>>19181418
Tae Kim is far from everything you need.
It's a starter guide, not a complete reference.

miんなgen気?

>>19181256
Only addons I have on firefox are yomichan and clipboard inserter, no noscript - I only use firefox to help me with VNs because there is no addon like clipboard inserter for chrome.

Chrome has uBlock but it doesn't interfere with yomichan.

>>19181418
I'm reading the DoJG. I re-read something I couldn't yesterday and I think I got the meaning after looking it up again. The problem is that I dont know if i got the meaning right and I was told not to look up translations.

>>19181502
Translations usually don't get the meaning right either.

>>19181502
>I was told not to look up translations
Don't listen to retards.

>>19181502
Krashen says that even if you misunderstand something or can only get the basic gist it doesn't matter. Just keep reading.

>>19181502
>I dont know if i got the meaning right
If it makes sense in context it's unlikely to be far wrong.
People misunderstand things in their native language all the time. Deal with it.

if krashen told you to jump off a 橋 would you する?

>>19181538
If he was the world's leading authority on 橋 jumping and I wanted to する then yes

>>19181468

Actually, it was ported to chrome a few days ago.

>>19181658
Fantastic - problem solved, thank you.

>>19181658
Care to link it? Can't find it.

I already recognize some Kanji outside of RTK, and that outside context always makes it really easy to remember the Kanji. Does that mean RTK is redundant and pointless?

>>19181736
>I already recognize some Kanji outside of RTK
What the fuck does this even mean

>>19181740
How is that confusing? For example RTK teaches you to associate 言 with the word "say" or "words" but I already do that because I've seen 言 in various kanji relating to "word" or "japanese language" or whatever.

>>19181736
RTK is redundant and pointless if you study vocabulary. If you don't, you end up like >>19181332

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IOZbJ7PCPk
>learn 1000 words in 6 months and you'll speak fluently
This has to be the most disingenuous video on this topic ever, especially considering the guy has lived in Japan for 5 years and still isn't actually fluent.

>>19181781
I find most people have a retarded conception of fluency, where if you can say and understand the 50 most basic sentences you're "fluent". Reminds me of that laoshu black guy on youtube who claims to be fluent in a dozen+ languages, even though he's fluent in like two or three at best. He just walks up to random people who speak X language and regurgitates premeditated phrases he practiced on skype with his friend a few weeks prior like "I am learning X language. I speak Y language better. How are you today? I am doing fine, thanks."

lets not be elitists

アニメじゃない

>>19181468
>clipboard inserter
I've seen this extension mentioned a few times here but what use does it serve for Japanese learning?

>>19181824
insert the text of a VN into a browser in which you can use rikai to look up words

>>19181833
Even without Rikai, it oftens increase readability, with better fonts and single-tone backgrounds.

so I'm doing core right now I'm having some trouble telling kanji apart sometimes. Do you guys think dabbling in KLC might be worth it? I saw one at a used book store for a relatively cheap price.

>>19181853
>buying learning resources
Never gonna make it

>>19181853
When you find yourself repeatedly confusing two similar-looking Kanji, just try to focus on the radical that most differentiates them and create a story/mnemonic in your head. RTK is a waste but the methods he teaches can be occasionally used to your benefit.

>>19181853
Also, for confusing kanji, write them each time you encounter them when doing core

>>19181869
>RTK invented semantic radicals

> 惡
> jinmeiyou kanji
Why would you put that in your kid's name anyway?

rtk is for people who wanna learn nihongo but dont know how

>>19181899
let me guess its from childs fiction media

>>19181900
>people who know how but are reluctant to invest the effort
ftfy

>>19181891
Mnemonics isn't just semantic radicals. It's often useful to build mnemonics on them, but not always.

Is "Shadowing Let's Speak Japanese Beginner to Intermediate Edition" uploaded somewhere?

djt is pretty radically semantic

>>19181852
Word!
花園明朝-font master-race

>tfw only studying because of sunk costs
Anyone else know this feel

>>19181781
>the most disingenuous video on this topic ever
you haven't watched many language learning videos. you are fortunate to be surprised by this one. i wouldn't even consider it bad, if speaking relatively.

>>19182028
That's a fallacy, you know?

>>19181899
they added kanji to jinmeiyou that appeared in media because it was being used as an "extended-jouyou" list
they removed some of the worst offenders out of backlash of "what if some illiterate fuck uses this in their child's name", but there are still some fucking stupid ones

>>19182040
Sure, I might as well have put sunk cost fallacy in my post to be honest.

>>19182028
no, i still enjoy the nihongo
sometimes i think about dumping anki and only reading though, but i think it's still making me progress faster than otherwise

>>19182050
惡 is probably one of the most widely used 旧字体, isn't it?

>>19182053
Continue if it's fun. If not, why learn it?

>>19182028
I'm studying because I told everyone I am learning Japanese and don't want to look like a failure that gave up

>>19182069
Don't worry, you already look like a failure for learning it in the first place

>>19182065
Because, while I know that spending even more time than I already have on something I don't particularly enjoy is the wrong course of action, I don't want all that effort to have been for nothing. Also, my life is extremely empty with nothing to fill the void and I have a very difficult time finding hobbies. I'm just hoping that when I get to the stage that I can enjoy native content more fluently it'll be worth it it.

I know it won't.

>>19182063
anything with 亞 is pretty epic and for the win

>>19182084
don't worry, you're in the right place

>>19182084
You will eventually make it if you just continue. Good luck anon.

>>19182100
亞 is more aesthetic than 亜 desu, both by itself and as a component

>>19182072
Why do you think that? I guess I could look like a loser to young people who are aware of weeb culture, but every older person I talked to thinks Japan is a land of miracles and beauty and give me credit for learning a difficult language like that. I mean, guess you are just shitposting but it's the kind of mindless vile shitposting that'd fit on /pol/ or something, if you are on /jp/ you should shitpost with a bit of wit.

>>19182129
but this is /djt/

>>19182129
Maybe if you convince them you want to live and work in Japan, otherwise it's merely politeness on their part. For other people, learning languages for fun is as good as wasting time. You could as well write Sonic fanfiction by the thousands of pages as far as they care.

>>19182129
Learning a language so i can virtue signal to other people.
To reddit begone foul beast

>>19180717
Your question isn't specific enough.

>>19182132
No it isn't.

>>19182189
it is

今から今日の暗記レップをさっさと済ましに行ってくる！皆、力を貸して！

>>19182195
Slashes are for boards. This is a thread.

>>19182211
youre a thread

>>19182072
> you already look like a failure for learning it in the first place
Not true.
If you respect yourself at least a little, others will respect you too (unless you're surrounded by 12-year-olds).
The other students in my class at uni know I'm studying Japanese, but they don't see me as a weeb, because they know I'm not one.
In fact, some of them even know I'm mostly doing it for anime and manga, and they're still ok with it.
It's all about how YOU feel about your hobbies. If you think they make you pathetic, they do.

im not a weeb i just post in this thread on this board ironically

>>19182237
I think most people in this thread post exclusively in /djt/ and couldn't care less about the rest of the board.

>>19182166
>Maybe if you convince them you want to live and work in Japan, otherwise it's merely politeness on their part.
it would merely be politeness if you were learning something like latin or esperanto, sure japanese isn't one of the meme career-boosting languages but some people actually genuinely think that not being an EOP is a cool interest

Do Westernfaggots actually get mocked for having interests that deviate from what the other sheep are into? All my friends have varying hobbies and they take interest in what I'm doing as opposed to mocking it, even if it's something as far out of their wheel house as anime/manga/Japanese

>>19182244
You're probably wrong.

>>19182253
no, there are dicks in the west just like everywhere else but it's mostly repressed neets imagining that everyone in the world is out to get them, or people who were bullied and are now afraid of society

Thanks to this anon >>19176621 that posted this link last thread: https://tunein.com/radio/Japan-r101255/
I've been enjoying listening to Japanese radio as I do my reps, it helps keep me focused on why I'm doing them.

>>19182184
Whoops. I was asking about japanese to japanese dictionnaries. I think two of them are really good but I don't remember which.

>>19182253

>>19182072
You're learning a foreign language. That's respectable. Better, you're learning Japanese, which is known to be a very hard language to learn.
Unless you're acting like a cringeworthy weeb about it, there's nothing shameful about learning Japanese by itself.

>>19182246
"Not being an EOP" is not an interest. Knowing another language does not make you more interesting, but consuming written works in this language (or communicating extensively with natives) does. Japanese culture is indeed worth getting into even without anime, manga and the likes, at least in my opinion. But it's not like an average person would appreciate that fact.

>>19181366
I'm pretty sure you learn the kanji for eight at the beginning

>>19182302
>"Not being an EOP" is not an interest.
no, it's a sentence that encapsulates a lot of different possible interests
one of which is "languages in general" and that is an interest
>Knowing another language does not make you more interesting
that's not what "an interest" means so does this is tangential. also memorizing words without using a language is fucking stupid but it is in fact "an interest"
>Japanese culture is indeed worth getting into
a culture is also an interest
>But it's not like an average person would appreciate that fact.
consider not talking to boring useless fucks who think they are superior because their interests are generic and mainstream

>>19182325
no the kanji for 8 doesn't have a line on top

>>19182302
An average person doesn't appreciate anything.
Japan is not Djibouti, in any more or less educated group of people there's at least one person interested in its culture. And if that group is big enough, there's also at least one fellow animufag, anime has nearly become mainstream.
Also, lack of appreciation is not the same thing as shaming.

>>19182352
So this... is the power of RTK...

>>19182356
i was explaining why the other dude didn't recognize it if that isn't clear
i used rtk and i can read fonts so don't meme too hard

>>19182352
I hope for your sake it's bait.
I mean, it sure looks like bait, but there's all kind of retards out there.

>>19182352
>>19182365
>>19182356
Reminder for folks doing RTK out there, there are two main font styles in Japanese: one is for print (think Times New Roman) and one is for writing (think how you write an "a").

Your RTK card should include both types so you can recognize both and write it the proper way (don't try to write Times New Roman way)

Check our mattvsjapans latest video on the topic for more info

>>19182388
But how do you learn to read the font that's used between speech bubbles? The very small one.

and then theres a 3rd type well call the real ninja way which is how they write it on ninja scrolls for other real ninjas to read

>>19181220
Both are the same and don't have an accent.

>>19182401
By reading more.

>>19182166
>learning languages for fun is as good as wasting time
What kind of retards do you hang out with?

>>19181311
rtk is amazing it taught me how to read 連邦予算 and i dont know a lick of nihongo for the fuckin win

So how often do you find yourself referring to grammar resources while reading? For some reason they are different sessions for me but I think that needs to change. Also what resources do you use? I use TK but DOJG may suit my needs better

>>19182166
I know plenty of people learning languages for the fuck of it.
My classmate learned Turkish just to watch soap operas.
Maybe you should stop hanging out with EOPs.