/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>19011096
Currently trying https://video-download.co, appears to download fine but then craps out a 403 error again.

>>19011142
Okay, video-download.co + DownloadThemAll did the trick for a particular 330MB 1080p video. Problem is you have to have an older version of Firefox as the add-on doesn't isn't compatible anymore with the new add-on system (his author seems to be slow to catch on). Unless some alternatives exist. DTA allowed me to reach 4-5MBps on average which isn't "too bad".

>>19011207
What video? I want a control so I can test out methods and compare results.

>>19011221
Thank you for your input and help.

Here's a small one. 720p max. Even video-download.co craps on this one, as it can't even retrieve all the available resolutions (360p max) and is too slow for this one in my case:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33189274

A second example. 1080p max, quite long. Again, only 360p available through video-download.co:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33172624

The main problem is that 2-minute long tickets which complicates things, even when using DTA (if speed is too slow, it's fried).

>>19011317
Was ydl always able to retrieve premium resolutions?

>>19011410
It works if logged in (adding "-u [username]" then it prompts for password).

>>19011498
Even for free accounts or just paid?

It's not like they're guiltily admitting you should be doing something else without taking the job themselves out of gear grinding shame because that's what a conspiracy sounds a lot like.

>>19011558
To my knowledge there's no such things as premium resolutions. Only economy modes are accessible when logged out. AFAIK you don't need to be premium to be able to access 1080p.

In the meantime, I found a temporary workaround by switching back to the Flash player. This player still retrieves the old non-segmented file, but within an FLV container instead of MP4. This workaround works up to 720p. Also, that might be a better option for those who aren't using a VPN (the new segmented system stutters each time a segment has to be downloaded).

Also, the Nicofox add-on is still able to download the 100MB older style variant (prior to the 1.5GB upgrade). This variant automatically generates a low-quality 540p 100MB file if source is above 100MB or matches the source upload if source filesize is below 100MB.

What's different exactly? I can still download the mp4 files opening them from adblock and saving them.

I think and/or hope that people who care about Nicovideo will come up with an updated downloader script. I think I could do it, if I really put my mind to it, but I haven't put my mind to anything in years.

My guess is that it was implemented as part of letting non-premium users (and logged out users) skip to anywhere on the video and is for the purpose of saving bandwith.

>>19011774
What player are you using? The HTML5 player doesn't give you access to an unsegmented MP4 anymore. Unless a screenshot proves me wrong.

Only older videos prior to the 1.5GB upgrade still retrieve an unsegmented file (the 100Mb one which was also the source upload).

>>19011821
Post a link to a video that's broken into bits. I tried one from today and I tried the first in >>19011317

Is prem account worth it?

>>19012234
Linked screenshot is what I get with sm33189274. 2 m3u8 playlists and multiple ts segments (note: I filtered to only have entries sharing the "ht2_nicovideo" string in their URLs).

Indeed, when loading the older Flash player, I get my non-segmented "nicovideo-sm33189274_bff7454b8c645591b50c25f9b5d47852ffc51a3f4ab1010e09d178ee99a51bd7" instantly and it downloads fine with DTA.

Back again. The https://video-download.co + DTA combination seems to work again, offering all resolution variants this time, even for the videos that failed previously (srsly?). sm33189274 did download in its glorious 1080p60 quality (even though I'm not into that kind of yukkuri-voiced stuff, I just used it as a test) and I didn't get the "403 forbidden" error because it managed to download in less than 2 minutes with speed peaks at 10MBytes/s. It even worked with older videos posted before the 3GB+1080p upgrade (but after the 1.5GB one).

However, it still can fail. On some cases, the DL speed drops significantly making the download last more than 2 minutes and thus fail. Another workaround I found is pausing then resuming (Ctrl+P then Ctrl+R with the DL manager opened) the download when this occurs. The DL speed goes up again and helps reducing remaining time before the DL ticket expires.

>>19011317
downloaded the first one at 2MBps(which is my max download speed) using jdownloader2
i dont have a nico premium account but it downloaded at 720p

>>19011096
works okay in japan

>>19014173
Just tested out JDownloader 2 and it indeed works, even during economy hours if your account is Premium (http://video-download.co/ can't retrieve all resolutions during economy hours because you can't log in, it all works by itself). Indeed you have to add your Nico Nico account to it (Settings -> Account manager -> Add -> Choose a Hoster, enter "http://www.nicovideo.jp" -> enter your email address account into Name -> enter your password into Password).

For those who aren't familiar, after adding your nicovideo.jp account, go to the LinkGrabber tab then add your video link. The link will be added to the list. Right click on the corresponding entry then click "Start downloads".

There's a catch though. Since nicovideo.jp limits your download time to 2 minutes, you have to de-activate then re-activate your download each 1 and a half or 2 minutes in order to avoid your download abruptly stopping. Unless someone here has an automated way of doing so.

Also, you can increase the maximum number of incoming connexions to whatever number you want it seems, and it will increase your download speed (and possibly make your downloads last less than 2 minutes).

>>19011096
Are they slowly migrating to this format?
I still can get full single files and doesnt let me skip ahead with my free account. Im only using the console.

>>19011096
Never had this problem, I just download it with my download manager and don't close the tab while it's downloading.

To all who offered help or suggestions, thank you very much. It appears indeed that VideoDownloadHelper (latest version, with the companion installed) and jDownloader 2 will do the job. It looks like many download managers know how to handle segmented streams already.

With VDH you just have to let the video tab open but it will remain rather slow.

With jDownloader, you'll have to enter your Nico credentials into the Account manager and max out the number of incoming connections to 20 (it can't go beyond it seems). With a fast internet connection, you'll get a download speed on Nico that is unheard of. However, de-activating then re-activating the download might be necessary from time to time every 2 minutes (a bit less preferably), if it's a long 1080p video and in order to avoid the dreaded 403 error due to the 2-minute ticket expiring.

I hope Nico Nico won't undergo deeper changes than that (like Bilibili).

>>19026818
Oh, it will. Believe me, the current staff at niconico is trying everything to their ability of college intern-tier programmers and engineers to fix the mess the website was prior to the changes in staff and management.

So prepare yourself for more fuck ups and changes.

>>19028701
I feel like the "mess" with nicovideo is more at the business level than in the IT.
Those are probably poor fucks forced to support technology they fucking hate.
Just think about how long it took for nicovideo to finally offer an alternative to the practically discontinued Flash Player.

And let's not talk about "Premium". It's fucking garbage, and ruins the site.
Sure, they are not in a position like YouTube that can capitalize on user data, but that's no excuse to throw regular users out of streams in order to make them pay.
Block them entirely or don't do it at all. Anything else is not honest.
I have never been to bilibili, but it's ridiculous that it probably offers a better service despite being a rip-off.

>>19026818
>I hope Nico Nico won't undergo deeper changes than that (like Bilibili).
What did bilibili?

>>19033076
Download tickets ever shorter than what Nico does. This results in a 403 error at half or 90% of downloading a segment, opened tab or no it makes no difference. You have to use JJDown's client now (which is at least working by now).

>>19033076
Also, you have to pay to access the best quality options now (like 1080p60).

>>19036338
>>19036343
Shame but at least all the copyrighted shit stays up.

>>19012382
I had no problem

>>19042503
Well that's funny, and interesting too. I've just discovered that Nico still serves the unsegmented file when not logged in. What the hell is that? One difference though is that loading stops at some point if the video is paused (or it might load fully depending on the video or your connection) and you have to hit play again or move the timeline cursor.
Whereas when logged in, it won't attempt to load the next incoming segment until it finally reaches it (which creates that annoying stuttering effect for some) and segments are rather short in that case.

So, for 720p or less videos, another working downloading method as of today is... to log out while still using the HTML5 player, until they decide to use segmented streams for visitors as well. Indeed, that is outside economy hours.

>>19043279
I'm >>19042503 again (also >>19012234)
I finally got what you were seeing, but figured it out in a few moments, looking at where the stuff was loading from. (It would say something like dmc.nico:2805/hlsvod/ht2_nicovideo in the multiple files instead of dmc.nico:2805/vod/ht2_nicovideo/) It's just an option to swap between the normal way and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming that got activated. To go back to loading the whole file, just right click the video and click the 視聴方法の切替（hls > http） option at the bottom. (It'll say 視聴方法の切替（http > hls） if you're in http mode) Incidentally, you can use the third option, that lets you see system messages, as another way of getting a direct video link.

>I've just discovered that Nico still serves the unsegmented file when not logged in. What the hell is that?
It seems like you only have the option to switch to hls if you're logged in.

>>19045245
Wow, good call. That was it. Many thanks for that tip. However I can't figure out if it's me having done a wrong move and ending up with HLS enabled or if it was secretly enabled or rolled out by default. I never paid attention to that popup menu on the HTML5 player, I could have never found mself. Let's side for the wrong move for the moment, until we might see this option disappear and HLS forced by default in the future.

>>19045794
>However I can't figure out if it's me having done a wrong move and ending up with HLS enabled or if it was secretly enabled or rolled out by default
I end up back in English mode from time to time and get logged out too, so it's probably just some cookie expiring and HLS being enabled by default. HLS is intended to be beneficial though, not some anti-downloading thing.

Although, given how it works, using those multi downloaders might not be a solution, since it's supposed to be able to give you varying qualities of video, so you might end up with 1080 at the ends of a video and 360 in the middle or something, if it automatically changes quality rather than trying only to send the same quality the whole time.

i normaly download NND videos with IDM in 720p60fps or 1080p60fps mp4, i only have problem to wacth online or livestreams

>>19011096
>Currently trying the latest youtube-dl...
Well, the bug has apparently been filed a while ago:
https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/issues/14582

Make a bit of pressure, if you want to have it fixed.
All they need to do is apparently pull the (supposed) solution posted in that thread.

bump

>>19017246
never experienced that 2 minutes download time

>>19048484
>720p60fps or 1080p60fps
All the time?

>>19036338
>>19036343
They were supposed to be a better niconico, not join their shitty practices.

>>19068155
Sadly video hosting is too expensive that unless they receive unlimited funding like youtube did from google, they are bound to go to shit.

>>19074171
Isnt Bilibili chinese? Don't chinks have half the internet users in the world?

>>19080994
Just because it's big doesn't mean it's profitable.

>>19086429
They are making profits, but not in the video website.

They're making mad money (like around 80-90% of their profit) from all the mobile games they licensed, like Granblue Fantasy and Fate:Grand Order.

>>19093499
You're probably right but I was just talking about their video hosting. I usually see their stock always being green on the NASDAQ.

>>19093521
I mean, I'm sure they're very well aware of that.

They literally refused to put video advertisements when hosting anime series on bilibili in order to make the viewers believe the company is on good terms with the customer and are going to buy microtransactions to support them.

It's an insanely risky business model, but it werks.

>>19093538
(Okay, not just microtransactions, bilibili also has a store for cosmetics you can decorate and add stuff to make your profile look pretty. I'm surprised niconico hasn't done this yet)

>>19093538
Marketshare means everything because you can't buy loyalty. It's the same reason Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram didn't have a lot of ads in the beginning.

Trying to pay for Premium through PayPal but it's not accepting my payment through my main debt card. Used an older one from when I donated plasma, but since that one's drained, I can't use it anymore and for some reason, only payments wound be cleared with that card. Will depositing cash from my bank into my PayPal balance help the issue?

>>19093545
Niconico profile navigation is bad enough as is.

>>19093847
Did you try?

>>19101708
Try what exactly?

If I'm reading this correctly, niconico is going to be upgraded to a new version (く):
http://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/74201.html

>>19102690
Putting money in your account.

>>19106442
Not yet, i'll try in a bit

>>19104002
Why not be honest and call it 苦?

>>19106713
Ok report results.

>>19112973
Assuming this thread's alive by then, i'll report back later on or Tuesday. Just linked my bank account hours earlier so I gotta wait.

>>19104002
く for くそ？

>>19113465
Good luck then.

>>19119370
Belated update- After linking my bank account to my PayPal, I can actually pay for premium again

>>19119453
Good to know.

>>19107970
You know why.

>>19011096
DASH is a fucking cancer.
but i agree that it saves *some bandwidth*

>>19133592
Wish it didn't exist.

>サーバーとの通信に失敗したため、コメントを取得できませんでした。リロードするか、niconicoの動作環境をご確認ください。

Any ideas guys? This message keep popping up, and comments failed to load at the right comment box.

>>19144721
Do you want a translation or tech support?

>>19145518
Tech support please.

>>19144721
Niconico is shitting itself like it does frequently. Either that or your connection is bad.

>>19148054
I'll bet on the niconico part.

>>19144721
>>19146657
Disable any kind of blocker that you have.
(That includes blockers outside the browser.)
Following that 動作環境 link also seems worth trying.

I really wouldn't recommend trying the Flash version of nicovideo (Flash is dead, and it's better that way), but that's also an option.

>>19151668
Wow, thanks anon! It worked after disabling my adblocker.

>>19153220
Enjoy your AIDS

#!/bin/bash
set -euo pipefail
IFS=$'\n\t'

## Abuses youtube-dl's auto-continue to get around heartbeat drop on NND. Might work on OSX depending on bash version. Windows 10 can use the Linux Subsystem, 7 can use cygwin/babun. Expect bugs.
## Example:
## ./loopscript.sh -u [Username] -p [Password] http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27012162 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33305966

## Arguments setup
username=""
password=""
ytdlopt=""

while getopts 'u:p:' flag; do
case "${flag}" in
u) username="${OPTARG}" ;;
p) password="${OPTARG}" ;;
o) ytdlopt="${OPTARG}" ;;
*) error "Unexpected option ${flag}" ;;
esac
done

## Make Links you wish to download into an array
shift "$(($OPTIND-1))"
declare -a vids=( "$@" )


# Download video from URL at 0th array value. If the download exits without error, make a new vids array sans the 0th value. If it doesn't (like heartbeat loss), restart the process until it does.
until [ ${#vids[@]} -eq 0 ]; do
if youtube-dl -u "$username" -p "$password" $ytdlopt "${vids[0]}"; then
vids=( "${vids[@]:1}" )
fi
done

>>19154229
https://my.mixtape.moe/rrqhvy.sh

This should hold you over until heartbeat is integrated into youtube-dl. I've been using a messier version of this script for months without issue.

>>19133592
> [This]
They simply caught up with the current trend.

>>19154229
Did you make this yourself?

>>19157198
Yeah, in like 30 minutes total.
Such is sysadmin life.

>>19154229
What is this for?

You can just open the network tab in the developter tools in your browser and download "smile.mov".

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm33289883

>>19153229
What?

>>19159636
Don't forget to re-enable your blocker when done on nico, I think he's saying

>>19153220
Well, then make an exception for nicovideo, and enable the fucking thing again.

Browsing without adblocker is like sex without a condom.

>>19159759
That seems like it'd make people want to not use adblockers.

>>19159763
Well, but then don't complain when contracting AIDS.

Ads are basically a great thing. They allow to pay for a service without having to transfer any money. Great.
But the developments in the last approximately 10 years have made online ads a security nightmare.
And the most recent development is ads that mine digital currency using your machine. Fuck them. That's fucking disgusting. Their ads won't run on my machines anymore.

>>19159795
>And the most recent development is ads that mine digital currency using your machine. Fuck them.
What's actually wrong with this? vs installing toolbars and rootkits and constant popups and full screen loud porn ads and stuff ads used to do. It's like if an ad was using your computer to simulate the folding of proteins or something isn't it?

>>19159809
Instead of running sensible ads, they decide to rape your CPU.

>>19159809
>What's actually wrong with this?
Increases the power consumption and lowers the life expectancy of your computer.

>>19157339
Have you tried that for a video of several hundred megabytes?

>>19159763
Might need to revise that analogy.

I used to use Nico Nico Douga at work when youtube was blocked for music loops.

ffmpeg is your friend

>>19046108
>HLS is intended to be beneficial though
For mobile shitters, yes. In other words, not beneficial at all. The point is for the player to detect connection issues and switch quality on the fly to prevent buffering. It was originally only meant for ios, but of course everything needs to default to mobile mode today and in many cases remove desktop mode altogether.

>>19153220
You can block ads.nicovideo.jp just fine.

>>19159795
>Ads are basically a great thing.
Said no one ever, unless they're poor. Paying for quality will always beat free trash, and ads by definition lower the quality of whatever they're attached to.

>>19173709
Use hooktube.

Because you are not supposed to download video from them

>>19176558
>Said no one ever

I can do without doing micropayments on every fucking website that I visit.
It's less about the money, and more about the loss of privacy, and the fucking cumbersomeness.
If ads are what is required to enable providing a service, that's basically okay. The major problem is that online ads have been ruined.
Newspaper/magazine ads are okay, because they aren't annoying. TV ads are okay, because you simply switch channels for the time being. Online ads are cancer, because they cannot be ignored and potentially endanger your machine and data. That's why fucking everyone runs adblockers these days, and you really cannot blame them. It's the other side that has ruined online ads.

>>19182927
If you really want something, you'll gladly pay for it. There is zero reason to complain about ads unless you're poor or have shit taste which attracts you to bad sites with ads, and if print and tv ads don't annoy you, you 100% have shit taste. Also the tvs themselves record far more information than any easily blockable online ad.
Micropayments is a non argument since even porn figured out they should charge you one time to get access to all the sites in their network. Besides, you're already paying for it by dealing with the ads in the first place.

>>19184245
>implying I have a "smart" TV
The "dumber" the TV, the better.
Shouldn't 1984 have tipped off people to NOT buy TVs with cameras?

>to all the sites in their network
Hardly any of the sites I regularly use are affiliated with each other, so for me it would turn into a barrage of micropayments.

>If you really want something, you'll gladly pay for it.
Sure, I regularly buy the print issues of the online news media I consume. Partially I'm even subscribed.
The second they ruin their online presence, I'll immediately cancel those subscriptions, though.

I downloaded a 14 minute video overnight with JDownloader 2 and it finished up perfectly fine, full 1080p 60fps. Not sure on the original bitrate but what I got is 6172.

>ユーザー生放送『新配信』への移行完了
>時間帯と視聴ユーザーの会員状態によってビットレートが異なります。
>エコノミータイム（17時~3時）
>プレミアム会員：2Mbps
>一般会員：1Mbps

FUCK THIS SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>19186358
BRAVO JAPAN

>>19186358
This can't be real.

>>19188885
>november 2017
>general users got a 3x bitrate increase

>>19193674
I don't actually pay attention.

So, Nico is current working on ways to create a better stream, so they have been playing with different elements recently.
I do a lot of stuff with Nico in Japan, so. Yeah,
I hope they figure something out soon... because the company isn’t doing so well recent. Haha

>>19199192
>recent
As in recent years?

taking advantage of this thread, can someone suggest niconico channels? I'm new to this app and I do not know what I can see. Also, if you know artists like mangakas or digital painters, I would really appreciate it.
Pic not related

>>19202503
>app
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Also, the big go-to-point with nicovideo generally was the ranking. Miles better than anything similar YouTube offers.
Except it's been flooded with anime since nicovideo started streaming anime, and allowed people to pay for improved ranking positions.
Nicovideo has practically ruined the best part about it in order to monetize.

>>19186358
So, sub-HD resolutions are still going to be a thing in Japan?

Welp, RIP Nico Live, time to switch to Youtube, where you can stream for like 8Mbps or higher for FREE.

>>19203585
Nico lost a lot time ago.

Will NND ever update the timeshift portion of their website to HTML5? I gladly uninstalled Flash at one point when I noticed both their videos and live broadcasts got updated, but I had to install it again because I couldn't watch timeshifts. Actually, should they update it, I can get rid of a whole browser in my system that's practically used exclusively for Nico's Flash.

>>19208423
Probably in 5 years, if they are still alive until then.

>>19203585
Because a still image or some gook in a facemask needs to be at 8k at all times in every location on the globe >for free

>>19210274
Plenty of things are rendered in HD these days.

>>19207150
This desu. People keep using nicodouga only for the scrolling comments.

>>19203198
>What the fuck is wrong with you?
I've downloaded it on play store

>>19208423
It would kill ncv

>>19219169
Why?

What's this anti-flash meme anyway? are these guys gonna crusade for /f/ to get taken down?

>>19219755
Adobe isn't going to support flash after 2020.

>>19219755
>meme

It's the only reasonable way to think about Flash.
A piece of software that makes any machine it's installed on significantly more vulnerable to shit, while not giving a least bit of additional value compared to JS and regular executables respectively.
To top it all off it takes ages for Adobe to fix KNOWN vulnerabilities (Well, not like most people would install those updates anyway.), and as >>19219763 pointed out, they stop doing even that in 2020.
Think about that for even a second. This is worse than what Oracle has been doing to Java.

>>19219763
>>19220005
So basically you're going to be complaining "why does /f/ exist in 2021? Why isn't it /html5/ yet?"
Fun games and animations are value.

>>19208423
One of their planned features for Ku is to have timeshifts be the same quality as live streams. Whether or not that's html5 isn't clear yet or if the feature will happen with the update simultaneously. So don't count on it anytime soon basically.

>>19220069
>Fun games and animations are value.
Those are worth nothing desu.

>>19220069
Those times are long gone.

>>19219755
Content creation using flash is dead anyway. Content creation in general is dead besides the staples.

https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=フラッシュ+ゲーム

>>19237295
https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=フラッシュ+ゲーム

>>19242545
Are they good?

>>19222419
They used to be worth something.

NicoNico is dying. This is cause for celebration. The platform was shitty and exclusive anyway.

>>19264708
The downside is we can only hope YouTube will be a benevolent dictator.
It was nice to have a safe hide-out in case hell breaks loose at Google, but in the end hell broke loose at nicovideo first.

Is there any streaming service left that is even remotely close?

>>19264849
>Is there any streaming service left that is even remotely close?
Which one: Niconico or youtube?

>>19264889
Either would be fine, but I fear that when I say nicovideo, I get recommended biribiri and that doesn't really help.
So let's go with YouTube.

>>19264952
I don't think there are any good options for streams.

This is getting ridiculous.

>>19267625
Openrec?

>>19268481
How is it "getting ridiculous"?

It has always been that ridiculous.
I don't remember 生放送 ever not being unusable crap.

>Abema has now started region-locking all its videos on Youtube
Meh, was nice for small chunks of Sumo, and the odd gutter variety every now and then, but really nothing to get a VPN for.
>try to stream Japanese radio
>they are region-locking within their own country
>you can only stream what you can receive terrestrially anyway
What the fuck is wrong with Japan?
NHK World is fucking garbage.

>>19268834
>they are region-locking within their own country
It's funny how American tv does the opposite with sports. I hate it.

>>19268708
I guess that's ok.

>>19264708
It's like the only video/streaming site left that lets you comment on stuff anonymously. I know kids today don't care about it and it kinda makes me sad that the population that does gets lower everyday.

>>19268481
They should really just make it all paywalled.

Channel subscriptions being locked to domestic credit cards is a big barrier.

I need to make friends with someone with a Japanese credit card.

>>19285973
>Channel subscriptions being locked to domestic credit cards is a big barrier.
Why do they do this? Fraud protection?

>>19268481
I hate that companies still use niconico streams.

>>19011096

I stopped using Niconico since they cracked down on smut and made some of my favorites quit their channels. What do people use that's safe from the internet police?

>>19304019
No big video platform really allows smut. I guess there's Twitter though.

Japan really hates the "wtf japan lolololol" shit westerners keep saying. Region locking solves that. You only need to blame normalfags for this shit.
Other than that, this is no surprise. Japan was always a nation that kept to themselves.

>>19011096
>What could be a valid reason for that change?

Leech retards like you downloading other people's videos without permission so they can get views on their youtube channel.
Yeah sure, you're "just spreading the word".

Was there ever a way to download nicovideo video's including the comments as "subtitles"?

All the reups on Youtube are made using screen-recorders.
While there are videos that are way better without comments, the comments often extremely add to the experience.
That's truly something Youtube hasn't managed to achieve. Does anyone ever read YT comments?

>>19311836
I really really doubt it was made as an anti-reprinting mesure. I doubt Dwango (or whoever owns Nico) cares about copyright when it doesn't involve a big company. The answer was given some posts above, bandwidth saving mesure.

As for myself, I regret to inform you that I'm not reddevils500 (one of the biggest joke ever). Opportunism isn't in my habits. I'm always for supporting authors.

Now when authors themselves melt down, screw up, act carelessly and don't give a damn to their viewer base who just wants to be able to enjoy their content and are also ready to support them (even financially), but instead act selfishly (as some recent event did show), it's not my problem.

That's the main reason I download stuff and why other download stuff in the first place. Preservation. Being able to enjoy any time, anywhere. And also putting a shield against unpredictable and hasty decisions from any kind of content producers. As some unfortunate events showed, even the best content ever, even the finest masterpiece isn't immune to sad events leading to hasty and destructive decisions.

>>19313437
Nicofox downloads comments too (in XML), but only its proprietary player can display them. The main problem is that this player requires an old version of Flash to function properly.
Unless there's a solution to take Nicofox' XML comments and display them using an Avisynth or Vapoursynth script.

>>19313437
>Was there ever a way to download nicovideo video's including the comments as "subtitles"?

Grab the comment xml then use
https://github.com/m13253/danmaku2ass

Actually works great in my experience.

>>19314450
Thanks

>>19011096
Niconico has always been unreliable outside japan because they don't have a huge global CDN like youtube. I remember around 2006 it was almost unusable (even in economy mode) in the peak North American internet hours.

>Instead of one file easily findable using the browser's console, now you have a playlist leading to multiple dozens of segments, making it incredibly tedious to download and merge.

Sounds like DASH. Youtube-dl supports it for other sites, the devs need to get off their ass and update the niconico ripper.

>>19264708
Niconico is a relic of when the Japanese internet was less globalized. Now most people use youtube and twitter like everyone else.

I only check nico like once a year at this point

>>19324551
Same here.
I'm sad about what has become of it.

>>19011096
>>19011207
Man you sure are behind the times.
Octet-streaming has been the standard set by YouTube since god knows how long ago.
It's last-decade technology, and people developing websites don't even know that their servers are doing it anymore.

Firefox not-that-recently overhauled their add-on system and *specifically* told the author of DownThemAll to fuck off and that they wouldn't provide an API to support his use case. It is literally impossible for the author of DownThemAll to update his addon to support recent versions of Firefox.

>>19325447
Mozilla is shit in a lot of ways these days.

The loss of add-on capability is what drove me away from their current releases to ESR 52, but since then so much garbage has happened to Firefox, that I'm leaving for good once support for 52 ends.
Not sure if Waterfox or Palemoon is the way to go.
Opera has committed suicide with becoming a Chrome+α thing.

>>19325649
There's no good browser or video site or japanese art site anymore. I hate the internet.
No youtube is not good, whatever they did to it recently is ultra annoying. I just want a browser that doesn't babysit me or remove every function from itself, a video site I can watch lewd Japanese creations on that also has good features*, and an image site that people outside Japan literally are unable to post on. Is that too much to ask?

*Say what you want about nico, but the existence of its dictionary to explain shit, it's media thing so people can share models and stuff, its ability to host user made games that you can seem comments on while you play too, and it's image section make it better than youtube. Other sites(iwara) also lack competent tagging and search functionality.

>>19326713
>and an image site that people outside Japan literally are unable to post on
Futaba comes to mind.
Sure, only by using a broad definition of "image site", but they refuse gaijin.
Unlike 2/5channel you can't even pay to get access anyway.

I liked nicovideo a lot. I was a heavy user from 2007 to about 2013/4.
But whoever was running the site around that time managed to kill all interesting content creation off.
No idea how exactly that happened, but it happened.

>>19326713
True, Iwara would be so good if only you could actually find fucking anything on there.

>>19326800
Nico Nico switched to the Ginza interface/design/layout during that period, but I doubt this is the main factor. It could it be attitude change from users (preferring mobile devices to computers), or something external. Or something I surely missed. I also noticed (pure) content creation slowly fading away from that time.

>>19326800
A lot happened on the internet in that time period that's it not surprising things changed so much.

>>19334009
>A lot happened on the internet in that time period
I was specifically talking about 2013/4.
Before that the content constantly streamed in and was easily accessible no matter if premium or not.

Now there is no content, and without premium that lack of content isn't even accessible.
Considering that that content mostly hasn't moved to YouTube, I don't think Google is to take the blame here.
The blame is completely with nicovideo's management.

>>19326800
I'm pretty sure 2013/2014 was when around KADOKAWA purchased dwango and created the Kadowango merger.

Considering how shitty their higher-ups are (as seen by how slow they're updating Kancolle out of Flash and the firing of one of their gooses laying the golden eyes, Tatsuki), I wouldn't be surprised if they are the ones holding the staff back from doing as they pleased.

Then again, it's a double-edged sword anyways, because I remember when many users of niconico was revolting against the terrible ニコニコ:Zero update that made the site more difficult to use and the new flash player so ugly and bloated to run. This was in 2013, before the buyout by KADOKAWA and 3 years before their premium subscription numbers began to decline.

>>19338029
>firing of one of their gooses laying the golden eyes
It's "egg" and they're a big enough company that it's completely irrelevant to them.

>>19338155
They might regret it in the future though. Kemono Friends was all they had left to bring traffic back to niconico, and now, after what they did, many people began boycotting KADOKAWA by cancelling premium or stopped visiting the website in general.

And they really need all the traffic and support they can get, especially after bilibili is 4x the company KADOKAWA itself is. Alas, they are a failure and have no idea how to evolve or compete.

>>19338353
At this point, it's best to just close the website in 2020 at the latest and 2019 in the least, it's over and it's time to migrate to YouTube and/or Twitter now.

>>19338353
Honestly even with KF, niconico would have probably continued to shit the bed.

>>19328437
Iwara's webmaster said they were working on a search engine overhaul last year then the site went down due to their host suspected the site was a CP ring.

>>19338360
Youtube is only like 1/5th the extent of nico's services though

Nico has always been crap.

>>19345926
But at least everything else was also kind of crap and slow back in the day.

>>19345926
It never was perfect, but there was a golden era until about 2010.

Ever after that famous chorus, it's been downhill.
That was peak-nico.

>>19338353
Even with KF nico would still lose to yt. Virtual youtubers are the future of online media makers.

>>19356065
And when it comes to big events, Virtual Youtubers choose nico over youtube as streaming platform.

What's the Nico equivalent of Virtual Youtubers?

>>19360850
Nico is all old stuff.

>>19360850
Yukkuri voice letsplayers

Why can't I watch some lives even with a vpn, region set to Japan, and computer clock set to Japanese timezone?

>>19368579
Nico probably blocking some VPNs too.

>>19368579
Your account is marked.

>>19368579
The japs know.

>>19381085
Fuck them

Bump

>>19385202
Thanks

>>19366816
How popular are those?

>>19385202
Why?

>>19356149
Isn't that because it's paid?

>>19385202
No need.

>>19411566
Why?

>>19011096
The app is shit too.

>>19341039
Nico should just get rid of videos.

>>19431408
>Niconico Douga should just get rid of douga.

Brilliant idea. Let me guess, you have a Masters degree in business, right?
At least you sound like you have one.

>>19432751
I bet he is a japanese executive.

How would you guys subscribe to a channel on nico? They don't seem to allow credit card info coming outside of Japan... Yet when getting the premium account (not a subscription to a specific channel) shit just works internationally.

>>19432751
They should just do streams.

>>19440231
Reword your question.

>>19432751
It could work.

>>19452565
Explain how.

>>19456259
Server costs.

Is nico nico live stream comment section blocking certain ip?

I can watch at 540p | 1.6M no problem ..in 2k18 I'll just make the window small

>>19459342
Wouldn't be surprised.

http://site.nicovideo.jp/summer2018/

>>19468857
What is it?

>>19473624
A cute yandere scenario. You can only see the page properly on your smartphone though.

>>19458908
Servers arent even that expensive in the first place.

>>19476804
What is the most expensive operation? Bandwidth?

Is niconico just going to continue to get worse?

>>19459342
I don't think so.

>>19488376
the comments of live stream wouldn't show up for certain ip.

>>19489447
Oh

>>19489447
Wasn't that always the case?

>>19489447
Is that on a channel-by-channel basis?

>>19474404
I see it now.

>>19509620
Did you really think this thread was bump-worthy? Why do any of you want to keep this kuso thread alive? It annoys my eyes whenever I see it on the front page again, revived from what should have been it's death.

>>19502375
No, i think it happened about 4 months ago. I can watch all live streams without any problems prior to this.

>>19506138
Yeah, happened on every live stream i watched.

>>19509632
I'll make sure to bump it regularly, just for you.

>>19509852
Rude

>>19011096
Why are their events such low quality?

>>19517019
They're just trying to keep it real.

I thought niconico was shitting the bed but it was the chromium version I installed. Openrec seems to be shit now though.

when do they get bought by american company?

>>19521233
I don't know if anyone wants to buy them anymore.

>>19521233
Why would an American company buy them?

>>19517568
It's too real.

>>19509849
Are you talking about comments or the stream?

>>19520917
It never ends.

>>19011096
Does nico pay companies to use them?

>>19476804
I guess for niconico that might be true since it's not youtube-size.

>>19011096
Can anyone watch geoblocked streams with a VPN?

>>19546414
No but apparently it should be possible.

>>19011096
I miss the old niconico.

>>19509632
bump <3

>>19535599
the comments, which lead to warning messages keep popping out thus making all streams unwatchable.

>>19556509
Sounds like quality programming.

>>19556060
Rude

>>19556060
Thanks

>>19553462
Me too ;_;

Let it go, you retards.

How did GDPR affect Nico badly? Did they block all Euro traffic?

>>19011096
Who watches NicoNico anymore? It's all about YouTube now.

>>19573489
Has it? I'm from Europe and can access everything exactly like before.
Unfortunately there is practically nothing interesting in the ranking outside region-locked anime streams.
(That guy touring Japan by motorcycle with his waifu is interesting, but that's about it. Where are all the MADs? I think a while back someone said Twitter, but nope.)

>>19573986
MADs are pretty much condensed to Twitter and, at times, YouTube.

Also many of the people who make MADs nowadays are Inmufags/Cookiefags. Many of the veteran MAD creators retired a while ago because too much going on in their life or are only making MADs very infrequently.

>>19574127
That's sad.

http://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv314843724
cute trap

>>19011096
Do people actually download video off the internet? doesn't that take up a fuck ton of room?

>>19574127
>MADs are pretty much condensed to Twitter and, at times, YouTube.

What? I'm pretty sure most MADs are still really only a thing on nico, unless you taking about a specific types of MAD.

>>19578014
eewwwww

>>19578014
Wew

>>19574127
I just find them randomly on youtube.

>>19579520
I'm sure plenty have posted MADs to YouTube, but many of them might be blocked because of how draconian copyright is in Japan. And as such, they are either blocked (for me at least here in the states) or not showing up in the results.

Despite how shitty of a website niconico is in terms of ease of use + functionality, they're at least more lenient than YouTube is on content creation of the little guy/gal. This especially is true with NSFW MADs.

>>19574127
>>19579520
>>19584435
>>19584678
Anyone got channels to recommend?
I only ever followed ふぉー＿, but that channel hasn't really helped me as a jumping off point to find more interesting content.

>>19579430
Only the important stuff.

>>19579430
I DL videos in case the big internet shutdown finally comes.

>>19592524
If only.

What do ad tickets do?

>>19594485
Screenshot?

>>19586875
What do you like?

>>19600299
The shit that would have dominated nicovideo's ranking 10 years ago. I seriously wouldn't mind going back. Better times.
Probably whatever your average Anon likes, except I'm not particularly fond of idolshit and lolishit.

>>19602180
You have to be more specific.

>>19602180
I'm not sure I can help.

>>19594485
I want to know too.

>>19594485
>>19607710
From my (limited) knowledge, they're tools to promote videos so they can have more visibility and possibly gain more views and mylists this way. They can also help placing them into higher rank spots. It's a system of ad points you need to buy or can earn through free ad tickets campaigns.

Generally, a video with lots of ad points thrown to it will have more chances to climb in popularity than an ignored one. Nico Nico often sets free ad tickets campaigns so it's not even necessary to buy them. When clicking on the campaign link, you're taken to a page with something looking like a draw with multiple options. They're either points tickets like 200, 500, 1000 points, etc or reduction ones like 20%, 50%, etc. Reduction tickets only apply when you already bought ad points and helps you save a bit of them. Point tickets are the best as depending on your luck, you don't even have to buy points.

In my case, I'm using them on videos I enjoyed, or as a form of support to their author, or on videos that I wish had more success.

Note that in nowadays' somewhat neglected Nico Nico, ad points are not enough anymore. An author absolutely needs a good handful of followers to gain success otherwise his/her videos will go unnoticed, even if care was put into them. Unless they're gems or incredibly awesome (or incredibly opportunistic).

To use ad points and tickets, you click on the megaphone-shaped icon on the right next to the video player. A pop-up opens. Then you scroll down and select your ad ticket first. If this is a 500-point ticket, then you scroll up a bit and increase the number of points you want to give to the video (in this case, 500). If you bought ad points, increasing the number of points given to the video will obviously decrease your remaining ad points. When using reduction tickets, the number of remaining ad points will only decrease proportionally to the reduction. Ad tickets of same amount can be combined (2x 300-point tickets for example) but not reduction ones. Combining tickets will allow more points to be given to the video. Once it's done, you submit.

Using the ad feature a lot will also give you access to free tickets. To this day, I'm not sure if they only serve for promoting videos or if they're also a sort of remuneration for authors (I doubt so).

Nico down. Site is completely gone.

>>19609272
There is a program for authors you can register, but I'm unsure if it's actually used.

Today they announced a revamped streaming engine. I don't recall if it's already in operation though.

>>19609272
Thanks

>>19609325
?

>>19610134
>Today they announced a revamped streaming engine
Is it supposed to be better?

>>19622033
No it's supposed to be worse.

>>19609325
Finally.

>>19011096
I hope this shit dies. You might hear Youtube famous but you never hear niconico famous in Japan.

>>19626077
You a Google employee?

>>19626198
Unlikely. The Japanese expression is indeed ユーチューバー and not ニコニコドーガー.

>>19626256
I don't care what they're called and I don't care which platform people use to act like clowns on camera. If everyone's already using youtube what difference does it make to you whether nnd is dead or not?

>>19626310
>what difference does it make to you whether nnd is dead or not
Whether it's still worth it to skim through the ranking every now and then.
Currently it's not worth it. Still doing it like once a week. Unfortunately Youtube doesn't have a whole lot of interesting Japanese content either. Nicovideo used to have that.

God help me!
How do you download from bilibili now?

>>19627984
What now?

>>19626652

I have a 6 digit account ID and I have checked the rankings no more than 5 times, never had any problems finding interesting videos to watch on my own

I use a generic Flash Downloader add-on for Firefox and it works just fine.
As for bilibili I'm pretty sure you just have to have an account for the download not to cancel randomly.

>>19631854
Proofs

>>19631259
>I have a 6 digit account ID
Same here.
>never had any problems finding interesting videos to watch on my own
Tell me your secrets.

>>19632313
Have an open mind.

>Videos don't load entirely anymore
No streaming site does this.

>now you have a playlist leading to multiple dozens of segments
They all do this to prevent the thing you're doing. Soundcloud is more notable for doing this.
>Why do we have to be IT experts just to download a damn video from Nico Nico
Because they don't want you to download videos and pay for their product.
>I'm pretty sure no existing tool will deal with that new streaming format
Plenty of downloaders already can for sites like Youtube and Twitch.

Do keep uploading those pesky premium quality NND videos to other websites though. You are the rusty nail in my toe on a saturday morning.

>>19638588
Does youtube-dl work?

>>19641404
Youtube-dl worked for me on niconico yesterday. Make sure to update your version with youtube-dl -U, or similar. I use youtube-dl and ffmpeg to make webms.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/user/393795
Funny channel with VR kanojo stuff.

>>19017246
Tried that but it says that nicovideo isn't supported. If I ignore it and try to connect it says Server says: 'Please wait...' and I can't download anything. How can I solve this? It seems to works fine for you guys.

>>19644686
Let me test it out.

>>19644602
Thanks

>>19644602
That's seemed to fix the problem.

>>19644686
You followed all the steps?

>>19011096
I just wish the player was better.

>>19644602
Perfect

>>19579430
HDDs are dirt cheap, anon. What if the video gets deleted, what will you do then?

>>19670025
Cry

>>19670025
Cheap but you end up hoarding.

>>19644602
Is that the dating game?

video section of the site went down again

>>19644602
>youtube-dl -U, or similar.

Can you call "pip install --upgrade youtube_dl" similar?

>>19679886

They're being DDoSed so they cut off access from outside Japan.

https://twitter.com/nico_nico_talk/status/1030357934625107969

>There are 8 posters in this thread.
Is this for real?

>>19686776
The resurrection fucked the IP count.

>>19660297
I did, but the website is down right now. I'll try again later.

>>19681268
>They're being DDoSed so they cut off access from outside Japan.
Fuck me, is this permanent? I swear this has happened before and they restored it in couple of days.

I'm scared now.

RIP Nicodouga.

>>19691889
This happens like every two months. It's stupid.

>>19695943
Still

>>19696217
I wonder why.

>>19699227
China

>>19701618
Chinks truly are a cancer to the world.

>>19701618
It might also be a Jap attacking the site with a foreign botnet. Why would a non-Japanese be interested in attacking NicoNico?
If it were a blackmailing attempt we would've heard about it already.

>>19696217
How long does it usually last?

>>19703431
Not too long.