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Woah.

saya;head xD

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havent seen the one where sayas in a chat room, tits or gtfo etc

Saya is worth giving up your humanity for

True end is tentacle world end

Bittersweet has bitter in its name.

>>1896179
>>1896205
Don't bother, /jp/ doesn't play Saya no Uta or any other visual novel not made by type moon

Too busy with their Touhou and TM trolling

Ageing just to be a jerk

>>1896179

>Sweet
> Saya

>>1896631
go back to bed grandpa artfag

>>1896205
someone post this, saw it only once but was amused even without playing

>>1896673

I just recently played Saya no Uta.

I spent the rest of the day feeling strange, but it definitely was an amazing VN.

>>1896665
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The prosecution rests

Short but good.

Best end was Koji end

>>1896682
I found myself cheering for Saya and Fuminori's love, even though I knew they were killing people and eating the bodies, they were just too cute (especially with Tsukuba as their pet)

>>1896684
/jp/ is a tsundere for VN

>>1896693
/jp/ is deredere for Saya.

Saya's cuteness is a miracle of the universe.

>>1896694
makes me DAWWWWWWW

I'm a bad person...

>>1896694

I don't like Saya because of what she did to Yoh.

Fuminori was more happy than you will ever be in your life.

Does she actually wear a dress or what? The neighbour could take it off, but in the ending Ryouko couldn't see it.

Also WHY MAIN CHAR NOT SEE HIMSELF AS MONSTER GIANT PLOTHOLE ARGHASDFH

>>1896707
Yoh was a busybody nuisance, Saya is an adorable loli tentacle monster

Remember which one of them was desperately crawling towards Fumimori as she died

You are playing for the wrong team, brother

>>1896698
doubtful, because of number of kouji-end lovers

Why this scene was so hot anyway?

>>1896716
>>Also WHY MAIN CHAR NOT SEE HIMSELF AS MONSTER GIANT PLOTHOLE ARGHASDFH

Trolling aside, I'm depressed because I can't shake the thought that someone, somewhere probably actually finds this the most implausible part of the story

I felt melancholy after getting the true end. Both happy and sad, it mixed up my emotions. Then I went back and got the bad end. Only now are Saya's death cries fading from the forefront of my mind ;_;

>>1896716

Wait, what?

I didn't quite come to an understanding with the ending emotionally. From the main characters perspective, it must be absolutely beautiful and invoke tearstorms. But then, [spoilers] it's the end of the world at the same time. Humanity comes to an end. But, as horrible as the new world looks, the new creatures are smarter than humans. The end of the world is caused by the effects of a single human.[/spoiler]

So, how am I to feel about this? Good end? Bad end? Best+Worst end? Or am I overanalyzing this by trying to think outside of the main characters thoughts?

Help?

>>1896716
Maybe her dress represents the outermost layer of her skin or something.

>>1896726

Good end.
Also, the world is better now, right?

>>1896726

Overanalying. This isn't really a story about the world and its fate, but, as the title would sugest, Saya. Just be happy that in the end she found peace with her loved one.

>>1896726
If you want to think of Saya has a horrible Lovecraftian monster and Fumimori as an insane cultist who is bringing on the end of humanity, then that works, too.

>>1896726
>Or am I overanalyzing this by trying to think outside of the main characters thoughts?
This. Saya isn't about what's good for humanity or evolutionary biology or any of that shit. It's about desperate people doing desperate things in order to find happiness.

>>1896677

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>1896205

anyone have her nitro royale arcade version sprite

>>1896726
The entire story is a conflict between how Fumimori sees the world and how everyone else sees it.

Working from the true ending, we find that the key to Saya no Uta is that this incongruity of perspectives is resolved not by the main character's getting back his old perspective, but by a woman who loves him re-making the world to fit his new perspective because it was through his new perspective that he came to love her. Thus the ending is thought of less as an "end" to the world and more as a "change" to the world, and given that the story is told mostly from Fumimori's "warped" perspective, I find myself inclined to focus on the relationship between him and Saya, see Saya as he saw her, and emphasize the romance of her "final gift" rather than the actual details of billions of mutated humans.

I think this "sympathetic" perspective with the authors' intent, and I think the contrast of this view with our obvious desire to not see all the suffering caused by Saya and Fumimori is just another layer of the conflict in the story. It's supposed to make us feel a little strange inside.

>>1896750
you've got a very good point there and as i was discussing with some people earlier each ending can be either good bad or both depending on how you look at the story and feel about the characters

>>1896721
plothole != something implausible
Very different things.

Also, Fuminori explained it even though his logic was a little retarded and insane. "I can't kill Yoh, she's human, that would be murder. Oh wait I can kill them easily when they don't look anything like humans even though I'm fully aware they actually are and that only my perception of them is warped." He was just kind of nutty.

>>1896770

No

It's because they look like it to him. Perception is everything.

I enjoyed it.

But the truth is, the artwork is amazing, it involves a loli tentacle monster, and we all fapped furiously.

>>1896811
I only fapped to the threesome scene.

>>1896816
But you DiD fap.

I must be the only one who hated Saya and Fuminori. They were too blinded by their own love and their situation they really didn't care about any other people. While Saya loved Fuminori, she had no regard towards anyone else, mutating and killing them without remorse. Fuminori, likewise, didn't care that Koji's lover was murdered and took his later murders as sort of a game he joked with Saya about. I consider Fuminori to have become the monster that he saw everyone else as. Koji beating the shit out of Saya and Fuminori was the most satisfying thing in the game for me.

For some reason, my favorite ending is still the White Room.
Fuminori doesn't turn into a monster, has a semblance of solace and Saya lives on.
Not happy, but not too sad or enraging either.
Also, the most fitting one for the ED theme to follow.

I think the germination end is the only decent ending. The game pretty much revolves around the mystery of Saya's true form and purpose and how everything is a matter of perspective. The germination end is the only end that really expresses that and you learn the most about Saya in it.

I don't think anyone who just saw saya as a monster and nothing else could have enjoyed the game very much.

>>1896856
you're not alone, theres bunch of anons here, who never fell in love, and dont know what is it too

>>1896856
The thing was that both of them were cut of from the rest of society, so they began to think less and less about how the rest of the world operated.

Saya basically acted the way she did in order to survive. She only attacked humans (excluding the missing baby) for Fuminori's sake. Fuminori in contrast saw the entire world as inhuman monsters and tried to act normally throughout. It's only when he met Saya that he actually felt motivated to do something other than resign himself to his life.

tl;dr Both of them were already messed up individually. It's only when they got together that they got proactive with their actions since they didn't want to go back to being alone again.

Not saying I condone them, but I at least have sympathy for them.

i want some fanart of saya please

>>1896935
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post?tags=saya_no_uta&searchDefault=Search

>>1896942
thank you good sir

>>1896935
Oh god, even i would kill it with fire.

>>1896958
Eh. I'd devote my life and help it flower into destruction of the world.

>>1896958
I would ask if I could hold her hand.

someone needs to rip all the portraits

>>1896908

Since when are tentacle monsters integrated into society anyway?

>>1896983
>>1896987
dont get me wrong, i love saya, but this fanart looks just horrible

>>1896737
Yes. Kouji is the true hero, sacrificing himself to protect mankind from the eldrich horrors trying to consume it.

>>1897013
SHUT YOUR FUCKING WHORE MOUTH

IT NEVER SHOWS SAYA'S FUCKING TRUE FORM

THAT IS A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT COULD BE SAYA

YOU ARE A BITCH.

>>1896998
When said tentacle monster turns the rest of society into copies of aforementioned tentacle monster?

>>1897029
Then everyone can have tentacle sex!

Ryouko and Kouji are the bad guys.
That's how I felt at least.

>>1896908
>>1896750
I quite agree to these two. And to me what this game tries to depict is a kind of real and pure love (or passion), which can be insane and inhumane (but at the same time very human).

>>1896856
>I must be the only one who hated Saya and Fuminori.

Not entirely. In a way I came to recognize Fumimori as a monster around about the point when he pushed Koji into the well. At that point I basically considered Fumimori the bad guy, more so than Saya, who'se nature was too fundamentally alien to really class as such.

I understand why Fumimori became that way, surrounded by nothing but the liveliest of awfullness day in, day out, I understand that anyone would crack under the strain of having to live in such horror for the rest of their lives.

But he's still a murderous sociopathic madman though.

Also, I play Call of Cthuhlu, so for me the 2nd end is the good end, and I kept wondering when investigators hired by Oumi's parents were going to kick down the front door and start shooting at things with shotguns.
But like I said, that's just because I play CoC, and that's usually how most investigations end up anyway.

>>1897158
And usually in CoC, the shotguns don't actually have any effect.

There were no bad guys or good guys.

>>1897158
>But he's still a murderous sociopathic madman though.
we all are, just most of us havent taste murder yet

...Actually...

Upon reflecting on this VN, Fuminori represents us, and everything JP is obsessed with represents Saya.

Fuminori brings up on the main storyline a topic that arrived in a manga he read; a man becomes disgusted with humans and becomes attached to robots, which he then grows a deep love with.

We remove our affiliations with others in order to spend more time with our beloved obsessions. However, the endings of /jp/ and Saya no Uta are not completely different. Our love will not flower into something as beautiful as changing the world.

Think of the bad end - some force (In this case, Ryouko and Kouji) bring forth the end of Saya. Without anything left, Fuminori has nothing, and decides that there is only one path to walk from there on forward.

So, /jp/, your ending is a bad end. Some force will step between you and your Saya. Isn't it sad?

>>1897160
>And usually in CoC, the shotguns don't actually have any effect.

I KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I KEEP TELLING THEM. NO GODDAMN IT THE SHOTGUN WILL NOT WORK ON THE ELDER GOD.

His cultists and ghouls and low level beasties maybe. But for the big stuff you're going to need some sort of counteracting macguffin.

Oh, and don't expect to survive. Ever.

Yes, the new humanity is smarter, but it's a trick, it's only something like quantum computing exploiting the other dimensions for extreme parallelism. Their classical computing power is not significantly changed, and their culture is destroyed. Kouji's end is the only good end.

>>1897214
what is this i don't even

Saya blooms like a beautiful flower = GOOD END

>>1897255

>Saya blooms like a beautiful flower only according to Fumimori's twisted perceptions = FUCK NO BAD END

>>1897255
only i saw her "blooming" more like she was torn apart?

>>1897269
>Bawww this faggot got his personal little girl, who changed world for him, why not me!!!

>>1897283
ಠ̯͡ಠ﴿

>>1897283

0/10 Insults which are nothing more than blind stabs in the dark do not good trolling make.

At the very least you should question my manhood and sexual orientation. Possibly call my mother's fidelity into question with claims of first hand evidence (though that is getting rather passe these days.)

Come on man, you can troll better than that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08sKNXcJXjg&fmt=18

I'll just leave this here...

>>1897292
i had no intend to troll, but your reply is too serious

>>1897304

And you should have read the entire thread before posting, but c'est la vie.

Also, do we ever find out what Saya really looks like in the end? Or is it all just inference and vague hints?

>>1897308
Only vague hints. We see parts of her, but never the whole thing.

>>1897308

How she 'really' looks like, is never revealed. Maybe a good thing, since by just seeing her, you'll turn insane through sheer horror. Each and everyone of us experience this horror differently, so actually showing her might not be in the game's best interests.

>>1897308
She has tentacles and is covered in slime. That's all anyone really knows.

>>1897470
I don't give a fuck

>>1897504

Fuminori does.

>>1897531
who would give a fuck about him? troll harder

>>1897531
No he doesn't

>>1897537
>>1897542

Yes, he does fuck Saya. You never will have her. Cry moar.

>>1897564
*sob* *sob* you.. lier

I like pie

Saya dying was the best end. Fucking shoggoths.

>>1897652
Best end Saya dying, humanity crying.
Worst end Saya chills, Fuminori kisses axe

>>1897652
I liked Lovecraft's shoggoths though. They were an adorable train/vacuum cleaner/amobea mix. You avoided them the same way you avoid trains. Hear the "Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!" siren, get the fuck out of the way.

WORLD OF WHITE is the true end

Saya realizes that Funomori is changing mentally(?), and she gives him the chance to back out

>>1897676
not really, he just betrayed her love.

>>1897678
where'd you get that from?

>>1897664
From best to worst: Saya chilling, Saya healing Fuminori, Saya reproducing.

The good doctor was the best character by the way.

man, wish there was more.

>>1897678
He knew she loved him, but he choosed old life back, although he knew, she'll be very sad.

Best visual novel ever.

Definitely the best translated until now.

>>1897689
Damn straight. The Doctor should have gotten an H-scene.

Though considering how the other H-scenes went, perhaps her not getting one is a good thing.

>>1897689
Ryoko is a Saya's Mom.

>>1897749
She should have hanged out with Rena. Both had natas after all (and a preoccupation with alien invaders).

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