/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>18810902
hag

>>18810902
Well intentioned extremist

>zounose

Neither, she doesn't do anything that can be described as villainous or heroic.

>>18810902
I want Yukari to eat my head.

>>18811028
>>18810914
these

>>18810902
Neither. Now stop being dumb, OP.

>>18810923
Never change, Yukarin

>>18810902
There's nothing implicit in the laws of nature which says that stealing things is wrong, because the laws of nature don't have anything to do with morality. Neither the concept of 'theft' nor the concept of 'wrong' are innate to humans. They have to be taught. The key difference between this idea and Searle's Chinese Room thought experiment is that this idea allows the contents of the 'poster' to be altered by material from the 'IN' slot. Every human starts off with a blank poster, and over the years, it's filled with more and more rules for taking the 'input' of human social interaction and converting it into 'output' – your own participation in that social interaction. So, if we're talking about 'theft' being 'wrong', we have to think about it in terms of the 'input', the 'output', and the 'rules'.
Anyway, all of these 'rules' get used to process the 'input' and eventually the 'output' pops out – let's say, for instance, that you decided to take the banknote and return it to the guy who dropped it. In this case, the rule 'theft is wrong' won out over 'money is something to be acquired'. Every human is fundamentally just 'shuffling symbols' inside the 'box' – mindlessly accepting input and manipulating it according to arbitrary, abstract rules that we only have because 'culture' or 'civilisation' imparts them to us through meta-rules. Internally, there's no such thing as society, or even morality – just rules and meta-rules, which the vast majority of people go about their lives entirely unaware of.
It's not impossible for people to become aware that they exist inside a 'box'. In some cases, they even recognise the nature of rules and meta-rules. People whose process of ideation is no longer unconsciously governed by rules and meta-rules – these people are 'sociopaths'. sociopaths are those who are aware of the arbitrary nature of the rules that govern the nature and method of their human interactions

Yukari is a sociopath.

>>18811254
tl;dr post yukari

>>18811254
Is this tumblr pasta?

>>18811254

>>18810902
No

>>18810902
are all zounose's stuff like this? i've read the utsuho one but this one seems edgier

>>18810902
Okina's bitch

>>18811761

Almost all. It's a shame since he can draw but can't write.

>>18811761
His stuff varies quite a bit in both tone and quality.

>>18810902
Is Yukari a hero or a villain for finishing off a man privately and quietly who might have caused a major incident that'd've upset the delicate balance between the human and the youkai that's essential for the existence of Gensokyo? And to honor his death by making him into a delicacy fit for a God?
I don't know anon you tell me.

>>18815301
>honor his death by making him into a delicacy
Hmmmm...

>>18815301
>honor his death by making him into a delicacy fit for a God?
I wish that was me.

>>18815268
I like the one he made with Nemuno

>>18817893
Eating you would be like eating a week old egg mcmuffin.

>>18810902
Villain because she makes it so hard for me to get into Gensokyo

>>18818564
This, why hasn't she adopted me into her family and also made me her apprentice yet SAVE ME YUKARIN

>>18818564
Well did you pass the entrance exam?

>>18811761
>edgier
Does this post imply that you think the utsuho one was edgy? If so, you're throwing that word around. There's no meaningless violence in any of his works. Seems like nowadays people use "edgy" to describe toho fan works that aren't "cute girls doing cute things".

>>18810902
>>18810923
Disgusting.

>>18818853
What, you've never had monkey brain before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rgnUpz7XNA

>>18818878
I know her intent, and it's gross.

>>18818892
Her intent? What’s wrong with it?

>>18818921
She's clever, but it all comes down to the feeling of pleasure and pain. "Charming Domination"
She herself cannot find a balance, so I think it's gross.

>>18811761
>edgier
It really, really isn't. People die and youkai do youkai things, there's nothing edgy about that.

>>18818947
>She herself cannot find a balance
Are you sure about that?

>>18819084
>cannot find a balance
There's more to it than that!

>>18819127
Like?

>>18819179
Intent of older and stronger beings than her

>>18819189
Like Shikieiki?

>>18819632
I don't think we've seen such a being yet, it would be impossible...but...

>>18818947
>>18819653
What is this person trying to say?

>>18819752
I'm trying to bully Yukari

>>18819764
Good luck

>>18819764
Because it’s impossible

>>18819782
O-oldy!

BLACK HEARTED EVIL
GRAY HEARTED HERO
I AM ALL... I AM ALL I AM

Sending good vibes.

東方 is a little more than just black andd white dude.

>>18822381
Shades of gray

>>18819888
Gensokyou

>>18819084
>>18819768
>>18819888
>>18822231
>>18822381
>>18825231
>>18825938
T-thanks...

There's not a shred of evil on this face

>>18830511
That's what she wants you to believe.

But is there evil in these tits?

>>18811254
this wasn't the case
sociopath are, by definition, beings completely lack of empathy, some basic human emotions, who mainly seek the satisfaction for themselves

yukari spends half the day sleep and the other half fooling around
so I guess she is just full of lulz and boredom

>>18832396
No.
Tits are devoid of any sin or guilt regardless of the owner or the size.

>>18835233
Enlightened post.

>>18818965
The problem with Zounose's writing is that his works have no internal consistency. Any rule he himself establishes in his representations of the setting can and will be broken for the chance to display the things you name gratuitously.

It's a sad state of affairs, because his art is great, and his ideas are good. It's just his stupid tendency to throw his own rules out the window for cheap shock value that makes me unable to appreciate his doujins.

>>18836971
Examples?

>>18836997
The Banki doujin is my favourite example, because it ruins a perfectly fine Banki doujin, which are a rarity.

Throughout said doujin, you see Banki's body trying to recover its heads. The heads are shown to be numerous, diverse, and even disposable. Yet, at the end of the story, it's shown that it was in fact one of the heads that was the "core" of Banki, while the body was the disposable part. This is inconsistent both with what is shown previously and canon itself, where exactly the reverse can be observed in Banki's spellcards. All so Zounose can end the book with an unnecessary, grimdark comment from Banki about said body.

>>18810902
I liked the KKHTA Yukari. Final part when. I want to see Lolikari in action

>>18837053
TLDR: His works are grimderp for the sake of shock value

>>18837053
>This is inconsistent both with what is shown previously
How? The head at the end was the core, the others heads and body weren't. It was special, they weren't. Alternatively, they were all just as Banki as the rest, and it's just a last head/body standing situation. Either way, what's inconsistent about that?

>All so Zounose can end the book with an unnecessary, grimdark comment from Banki about said body.
Orrrrr for the bait and switch gag of Banki's tragic death cutting to her sitting around talking about said tragic death.

>>18837053
>This is inconsistent with (...) canon
Imagine if all touhou doujins followed canon. No artists would put in their own creative input, just following what was already written down by ZUN, a person that likes to rely on unreliable narrators when expanding his setting, all so that he himself can avoid being consistent and nailed down to one interpretation.
I think it's going to be boring. Most of my favourite doujin works either broke the canon (in zounose's When You Wish Upon a STAR Marisa's mother is dead) , or talked about something ZUN has refused to talk about (azmaya's Lost Girl - Lost Lady discusses how the protagonists have kept their youth).
As long as they did it in a clever way, I think it's okay to subvert canon every once in a while. Otherwise we would just have hundreds of doujins retelling the plot of EoSD... Besides, don't you think that interpretation of Banki was clever?

>>18835233
What about butt?

>>18839521
same

>>18839806
Nice.

>>18843332
Is it bad that I popped a boner?

>>18845283
Proof?

>>18845283
>popped a boner at the sight of a lovely nearly-nude anime woman
Sick fuck.

>>18845749
???

Are these legs evil?

No villain. Just Boobs.

Are these satin gloves evil?

Youkai scum, so villain by default. She probably eats 20 babies every day.

>>18859110
She eats billions of my babies every day, if you know what I mean.

>>18859216
I don't follow

>>18859216
Where does she get a billion babies each day from

>>18859257
From my balls, duh

>>18859255
i hate when im eating putting and i end with CUM ALL OVER MY FACE AND ANUS

>>18810902
Villain. More of a visionary well intentioned extremist than a cartoon supervillain. But her cruelty and sociopathy means she's pretty lacking in redeemable traits.

>>18836971
>Any rule he himself establishes in his representations of the setting can and will be broken
Canon Touhou is guilty of that as well.

>>18815301
Yukari kills countless people though to preserve that so called ballance. Even though her being of her power could find a different solution. Because of that, good intenions or not, she is ireedambly evil. And deserves as cruel ironic death.

>>18862151
>Even though a being of her power could find a different solution. Because of that, good intenions or not, she is ireedambly evil. And deserves a cruel and ironic death.

>>18825231
There is nothing gray about what Yukari does. Child and mass murder is never acceptable.

>>18862196
your mum is never acceptable

>>18862215
Yes. Just like Yukari. Unlike Yukari though, she doesn't deserve a painfull death.

Her natural habitat.

>>18862225
Unlike Yukari, she doesn't deserve an orgasm.

>>18862261
The only orgasm Yukari deserves is one that involves a giant female praying mantis.

>>18862231
No. That's abducting children from the playground.

>>18862231
On my computer?

>>18817944
In my ten years on 4chan, this is one of the worst insults I've seen.

>>18862231
I beg to defer.

>>18862151
>cruel
She's doing the right thing, in her view
>ironic
Yukari dying to a youkai plot seems like a good doujin premise. Imagine some upstart convinced the youkai that Yukari is serving the humans by keeping them all locked in and unable to follow their true youkai nature. Dead by the hands of the very people (furigana: 妖怪) that she was trying to protect.

>>18863881
>She's doing the right thing, in her view
That's true for most villains. Real or fictional.

>Dead by the hands of the very people (furigana: 妖怪) that she was trying to protect.
Not a bad idea. But i would rather have her be killed by outsiders. More deserved and satisfying.

>>18863788
I want to be Yukari in that situation!
>ywn be a girl who is going to be fucked by faceless mens in japan train.
Why even live?

>>18864338
>I want to be Yukari in that situation!
God same. I know that feel anon.

Based

>>18810902
She is lawful evil.

>>18868622
Lawful neutral, you mean?

Yukari is Chaotic Good

>>18810902
Silent hero and protector of Gensokyo and it's denizens. She really loves that place.

>>18871575
You know who else really loved a place? HITLER!

>>18871149
>>18868622
>>18871063
She's more Lawful evil when it comes to Gensokyo. Chaotic evil in her free time.

>>18871631
>Godwin’s Law
t.retard

>>18810902
Both

>>18871575
It makes sense to love your own creation.

>>18872638
Yukari is essentially Youkai hitler though. She kills people for the sake of her race. Is blond and European. And uses a swastika in her spell card. ZUN isn't even subtle about it.

>>18875936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khfqHakoA2c

>>18811254
You are only telling a half-truth. Human beings are evolved towards social cohesion, and by-and-large are hard-wired towards certain acceptable and unacceptable standards of behavior (slight variations depending on race) and these feelings have been codified, examined, and re-enforced by society.

Youkai aren't human, and their sense of "correct" is completely to do with their own place in nature and what they need to do to thrive. You CAN judge them by human morals and call them sociopaths, but I don't think its a very mature attitude since they exist beyond our human experience. Same goes for any higher or lower beings, without context value judgement are sorta pointless other than "ally" or "enemy".

>>18876212
Mokou only has one of the three necessary requirements for being literally hitler. She's just a edgelord.

>>18878252
The only mature attitude to have with Youkai is to accept that they are a threat that to humanity that needs to be exterminated. After all, if they refuse to accept or follow human morality. Then that also means they are unworthy of being treated as anything resembling equals.

>>18878273
Unless they are more powerful than you and unstoppable, in which case the pragmatic option is reverence to a superior being/force of nature. You don't fight a war against fucking hurricanes and draughts.

>>18878273
This >>18878284
Even if it's not the "mature" option, the smart choice is to worship Yukari, and help her usher in the coming age of darkness.

>>18878284
>>18878310
They aren't more powerful though. With the wonders of modern weapon technology, Humanity has completely surpassed them. The full force of the outside world bearing down on Gensokyo would be enough to easily exterminate every single Youkai. They know that, that's why they try to keep Gensokyo's existence a secret.

>>18878411
Nah, humans suck.

>>18878451
Anon, whatever your opinion on humanity is. Don't pretend like we don't collectively have the power to destroy all life on this planet. Compared to that, even somebody like Yukari is like a weak little kid hitting people with a plastic shovel.

>>18878484
>collectively
good for them, now when are they going to do so individually?

>>18878507
In about a thousand years. Until then, we'll do things together. Things far more impressive than the weak parlour tricks of a Youkai.

>>18878507
Dismiss the collective at your own peril.

>>18878533
Weak parlour tricks like blowing up the earth with the clench of a fist...
>>18878556
Fuck humanity, collectively. Except cute little girls.

>>18878579
Yukari is a powerful Youkai with a nasty ability. She isn't Freeza.

>>18878594
I'm referring to Flan Flan of course, what are you, a secondary? Though Yukari could render humanity asunder too, if she wanted to.

>>18878629
Flandre also can't blow up the world, you imbecile. And even the Japanese Self Defense force could take out Yukari.

>>18878411
Read up on how the two barriers covering Gensokyo work and stop shitposting already, kudasai.

>>18878642
Both of those claims are entirely incorrect.

>>18878645
I have read that. And it has nothing to do with my correct opinion that modern weapons could easily relegate Youkai to the pages of history.

>>18878648
No. Your assumption that Yukari and Flandre are Dragon Ball Z tier world destroying menaces is a headcanon. My assumption that modern military tech can blow up the world is not.

>>18878648
Of course they are, it's a self-admitted shitposter from /2hug/ who always posts the same boring stuff. Just ignore it my dude, lest it'll keep spamming.

Yukari is love. Yukari is life.

>>18879121
Yukari! Are you seeing this? Are you watching me? I want to get out! Take me across, soon, soon!

>>18878714
Suits me. I'll just take that as proof that you don't have a decent counterargument. And have to resort to "HE'S A SHITPOSTER!" as a means of sticking to your silly little headcanon that the outside world isn't WAY more powerful than Gensokyo's Youkai.

>>18879121
Yukari is hate. Yukari is death.

Great villain though.

>>18879229
I'm sorry, but no villain can compare to this man here.

>>18879267
I said great. Not greatest.

>>18879267
Would Bondrewd get along with Yukari? Trade parenting tips and all that?

Hate and death are wonderful, just more wonderful aspects to our youkai maiden.
>>18879552
Zoaholic has boundary manupulating/deteriorating properties, perhaps he could trade abyssal relics for her knowledge of boundaries and science.

>>18879221
as poo as always

>>18878714
Why is /2hug/ such trash?

>>18880084
For you? Because some people actually acknowledge Yukari is a terrible person.

>>18879978
Childish insult, you unenlightened plebian.

>>18880084
apparently ill-informed moralfag secondaries talk trash about innocent characters whilst stubbornly spouting terrible arguments with no end in sight

>>18880084
All generals are trash.

>>18880084
it could be worse

it could be /jp/

>>18880223
No. That's just in your imagination.

>>18880209
as childish as your brain, pooface

>>18880232
No, it's just in every single Yukari thread you gladly shit up.

>>18880240
If it helps you sleep at night after mommy tucks you in. Please, keep making a fool of yourself.

>>18878714
That explains that "everyone in Touhou is a sociopath" pasta. Are they bored that much they need to push the boardwar shit.

>>18880263
you are poo

tuck me in tight yukari, please

>>18880271
>Are they bored that much they need to push the boardwar shit.
guess who started the "board war" shit in this thread

spoilers: it's not /vg/

>>18880261
>Every single one.
...Do you know how many Yukari threads there are?

>>18880272
I hope she steals your children and eats them.

>>18880281
the guy that literally has poo for brains, moralfag-kun

>>18880299
Yukari should NOT be eating my daughters, yet. They are too young and innocent for her, you fucking pervert!

>>18880299
Is talking about Yukari eating children all the time really that interesting?

>>18810902
is my wife

>>18880382
your wife is my shishou

>>18880271
It's likely just one fag with too much free time. But I do suspect someone from there did the recent Yukari thread spam, and possibly tried to force a stupid fanbase war between fans of the sages, too.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/209296887/#209497709

>>18880342
I think you might have misunderstood me. But whatever, it's not like Yukari isn't also a rapist.

>>18880370
I don't do it that often. Just when i try and make a point.

>>18880509
yeah literally every shit thread that was ever made in /jp/ was the fault of /vg/

it's not like /jp/ was ever the shitposting capital of 4chan for three years running or it maintains a steady of supply of completely garbage threads completely in its own

Reminder to ignore the schizo retard who keeps spamming his propaganda.

Yukari is cute, stop badmouthing her

>>18885499
Imagine her big titties on your face

>>18885537
I wonder if she ever cleans her underboobs with that grandma sag of hers.

>>18885669
I sure hope not

No villain. Just Boobs. A Boobs can't be a villain.

HFY is a mental illness.

God I wish that were me

>>18887804
Can you stop shitposting?

>>18887373
Humanity fuck yeah and "Being a decent person that dislikes evil people" is not the same thing.

>>18885160
...Then why do you keep making posts like this? Reminding people of my existence?

>>18885499
Being cute doesn't make you not evil.

Today's tech is too much on her old mind. Stories are told that she abducts people to help her using the computer to browse on jp.

>>18891335
>Abducts people to find more people on /jp/ to abduct.
That woman truly is devious.

>>18891359
>And thus Gensokyo is fed

>>18891335
>Today's tech is too much on her old mind
Why do you think there are so many Yukari threads?

>>18895771
She tries to learn on how to be young and hip with her followers on jp

>>18895806
And it works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1FFa_1d33Q

>>18895999
Is that made by the bandicoot dude? lol

>>18896035
You mean Touhou Poor Cute Kids?
Yes. The best one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq3OSmulqrM

>>18896046
Amazing

>>18894128
Indeed. Even though she could just steal corpses, she feels the need to make sure more people die. Evil bitch.

queen

>>18900524
It's not a coincidence that I just happens to open these threads in the right order.

>>18900524
Empress.

>>18901141
Boss*

>>18901208
Big proud girl.

>>18901246
smol

>>18901423
Wah

>>18810951
wow, lole

>>18810951

>>18901257
Huge.

>>18910485
Thick.

How can people even think of sexual thoughts of Yukari and not whip themselves for such disrespect

>>18924320
>tfw no more Koumajou Densetsu

>>18810902
Yes/No. she lies on the boundary.

>>18913444
massive titties

>>18937439
I'd say she has the right size.

Girl.

Female.

>>18937439
How big is too big?

>>18810902
penis

>>18953783
She’s giving him head

>>18954952
Ok

What the fuck is going on with 4chanX AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18958182
Luz

>>18958182
*dabs*

>>18962927
Never do that again

>>18964863
cute sample

>>18965824
Thanks.