/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Good OP.

Do your reps and read the guide instead of shitposting and asking stupid questions

>>18882892
>>18882892
>>18882892
quick reminder for those visiting /int/, I don't know if I'll be around when the 日本語スレッド hits the bumplimit (or bucket)
よろしくお願いします

important message to all flashcard users (subsなし)

https://streamable.com/5lzrj

Don't forget to postpone learning Japanese until you escape NEETdom, since learning is most fun when one has a stable lifestyle. 頑張って！

>native input consists solely of eroge manga
>keep seeing 穴 and assuming it's 六 in another font
>nothing makes sense

>>18883324
Branch out and read other stuff too, anon

>>18883347
I will when I get a firm grasp on the grammar, for now porn and anime will do

Please help. I'm getting this error when trying to add a dictionary to yomichan. It happens with all the dictionaries I've tried, directly linked from the site.

>>18883444
Fair enough. I still have to build a strong grammar and vocab foundation, hopefully that's soon

>>18883324
六 is 二分の一 of the sex 番号 and well you can do the 数学 my ninja

>>18883457
>sex 番号
Is 69 also a dirty number in glorious Sunland?

>>18883472
you best believe

>>18883445
Do you have enough disk space? See https://github.com/FooSoft/yomichan/issues/98

>>18883483
Guess it's time to upgrade my EEE PC laptop

>>18883483
That's it. ありがとうございます！

>じゃあ、穴を埋めるためにはその能力を何とかしないといけないんですね
so does しないと get negated here by 'いけない' making it 'should not'?

>>18883199
A guy at my new job was apparently born and raised in Okinawa, when he saw me drilling flash cards during training he asked "あ、日本語喋りますか？”

Ended up having a surprisingly decent convo with him, said I was better than he'd have expected any American to do in just 2 months of 勉強しています. Though he was perplexed that I would know 錬金術 and 太陽電池 before knowing how to explain directions to the nearest 自販機 or トイレ。

>>18883721
no hes gotta do some hentai magic shit to deal with the problematic hole

gambare hentai guy

>>18883732
いい話、お兄ちゃん

>>18883732
W-what can you possibly know in 2 months

>>18883721
Is it not this?

>>18883732
did you tell him that youre learning nihongo like a retard from the internet lol

reminder

>>18883778
"native tutor"
"entirely in japanese"
So no "by the way this is the past tense"? Fuck that.

>tfw went from 400 lines in an hour to 500 lines in an hour recently
feels good
I can't wait for the day i'll be reaching 1k lines in an hour

>>18883793
what a great book remember back in the old days when people still lived in reality shit was epic

>>18883758
Pretty much, I told him most of my vocabulary was acquired from Pokemon Green, NHK news EASY, and various Japanese comedy/variety shows seen on Youtube, as well as chatting with Japanese shitposters in the comments section of various Youtube livestreams.

TBF I didn't fall for the RTK or Core2k/6k/10k memes. Every word and bit of grammar I've picked up has been in context, though studied rigorously out of it.

>>18883721

I think its best translated as: "what a nigger gotta do to fill up dat hole"

>>18883806
so are you gonna become friends with him and learn real ninja nihongo you actually have a chance to soar above the djt riff raff and become legit dont waste it

>>18883817
ダメだよ

>>18883806
Stop making stuff up. There's no way you could retain enough vocab for a decent convo after only 2 months without Core2/6k.

>>18883848
Anon. Spaced repetition is for throughput of learning the largest number of things without forgetting them, not maximum retention of a certain number of things. If you needed to know ten thousand words to have a decent conversation you might be right, but you only need about three thousand or so, which is totally doable through reading and listening because the most common words are Just So Fucking Common.

actually you only need about 200 of the most useful words that you dont even write with kanji

three thousand is a reasonable upper bound if he knows 錬金術 and 太陽電池

>>18883848
>this is what corefags think

Yeah thats why everyones here to learn, banal conversations with coworkers that secretly hate the sight of you kek

>>18883848

>>18883876
this is possibly the only good use of this image

>>18883875
if you learn that stuff you can learn real nihongo much easier so it is written >>18883778

>>18883841

なにが？

>>18883903
キミの出生

todays nihongo word of the day is 鴨葱

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>>18883778
Man, learning Japanese sounds expensive.

>>18883799
How do you do it

what's the best texthooker?

>>18884049
Is ITHVNR not working?

>>18884049

I've suddenly become worried that I won't see even 5% of the 2k words I've mined so far from my first read in the next thing that I read because half of them are those overly literary words used to fluff up VNs that don't aren't marked as common on Jisho. I guess I'll just have to read something else from the same writer(s) once I'm done then. Back to reading.

>>18884121
The most common words are so common that it's impossible to write for any length without using them a lot.

This hentai game is brought to you by 茄子茸

>>18884125
Yeah, I'm probably worried over nothing.

>>18884121
Literally read the fucking news

>>18884154
つまらない

How long did it take you to be able to read hiragana without having to think of each symbol individually and then string them together to get the word?

>>18884154
out with the old in with the ゲイ

>>18884170
what the fuck

>>18884170
Few weeks

>>18884170
I still have to do that and I've been reading for years, I think I might be dyslexic.

>>18883937
farfetched

>>18884170
1 week of reading

>>18883445
Try restarting your broswer after you installed it. Or your whole computer.
That happened to me and this fixed it.

>また、アソコがじゅんってしました
what does じゅんってしました mean? Is じゅん 順? 純? Neither?

>>18884392
youre not grown up enough for that type of shit dude

Before learning I figured one set of subs was kanji and the other kana, but now that I know hiragana and half of katakana I see that both subs have kanji.

So what exactly is the use of two sets of subtitles?

>>18884405
One of those is Chinese my dude

>>18884405
I don't get your question. The top one is Chinese, the bottom is Japanese. What don't you get?

>>18884405
wow, learning Chinese sounds haard

>>18884409
>>18884410
>>18884412

Welp, I'm a retard. Thanks. Guess that should've been obvious.

>>18884416
youll learn chinese someday dude dont worry

Guys, I've been spinning my wheels on RTK for the past 4(four) years. It's the visualizing and recalling kanji from the keywords that kills me.
Vocabular isn't a problem for me as I have several years reading experience, but I would eventually like to be able to recognize individual kanji as I feel my grasp of the language would be incomplete without it.
Any recommendations on what to do?

>>18884443
Maybe it's time to give up on RTK if it's been 4 years? Aren't you meant to do it for 3-4 months?

>>18884443
Can you define what you mean by 'recognize' individual kanji? You want to know its readings, all its possible meanings? Do you want to know the radicals that make them up, or the keywords Heisig assigned to them?

How much of one kanji's information do you want to know?

Does Kanjitomo do entire sentences?
I like to include the context of new words in my anki cards (basically the sentences they were in) which is fine for hooked visual novels, but for manga that currently means typing it all up.

Capture2Text seems like it will do what I want, but Kanjitomo is the one with all the focus in the guide so just want to check before installing something.

>>18884443
If you have several years reading experience why are you fucking around with RTK? What exactly does "reading" mean to you?

dont take the bait all at once boys

what settings do I change if my text hooker is hooking the text in separate lines instead of one line?

inject delay or insert delay?

>>18884486
>Does Kanjitomo do entire sentences?
It does not.

It can only do at most a 4-kanji compound, like 四字熟語.

>>18884495
Yeah, it would truly be impossible for someone to be using faulty techniques for learning the language when you have such good information floating around on the internet.

>>18884515
Cheers, friend.

>>18884405
Changing the text speed setting in your VN so it outputs all text at once usually works.

>>18884598
Meant for >>18884497

>>18884598
that was quite a post wasnt it i can understand

>くにがつくったのか!?
She's saying "did the country make this!?" and not "did they make a country!?", right?
Considering its バカ yotsuba saying it, I can't put the last one past her.
Since くに is the subject, it's the first one right?

>>18884663
you shouldnt call yotuba chan a baka when youre not doin much better here despite i guess seeing it the right way

but i dont see how you could see it the other way

>>18884742
yotsuba*

>>18884766
nah its yo and tuba put together thanks tho

>>18884772
No it's yo, tsu, and ba put together.

>>18884802
thats what i said yo tu ba

>>18884810
No. yo tsu ba

>>18884839
but thats waht i said yo tu ba

>>18884849
No no no. yo tu ba janakute, yo tsu ba da.

>>18884867
ah you are motherfucker

>>18884867
no dude thats exactly what i said yo tu ba dude its right there exactly the same

>>18884875
nandatte!?

>>18884884
Iyayaya. tu != tsu desu wa.

>>18884936
トゥットゥルー！

>>18884936
i dont see what youre getting at here

>someone legitimately attempted a conversation with a monkey

>>18885033
youve lost grip on reality heero

>>18884443
You're basically a perfect example of why RTK shouldn't be a general recommendation.

Do you think its bad to take Japanese 2 online, or would it be better to learn it in a classroom setting?

Wait a minute. If numbers aren't part of kana, does that mean numbers are kanji?

>>18885114
No, numbers are sandrunes

I'm confused on the literal meaning of the proverb
>居候、三杯目にはそっと出し
Does そっと出し mean something on its own?

My literal interpretation
>A freeloader, on their third cup [of rice], will ?
From googling it seems そっと出し is supposed to mean "to hesitate" or something, but I'm not clear how they stack up to mean that.

>>18885112
It would be better for you to not take it in any setting and teach yourself at a non-retarded pace.

>>18885135
>not take it in any setting
>teach yourself
But doing it by yourself is a type of setting. Can't learn Japanese in a vacuum.

>>18885177
That is a very good point indeed, thank you for enlightening me.

>>18885045
glad you know its you ;)

>>18884392
じゅんっ　is a onomatopoeic word like じゅわぁ～ or じわぁ～.
they does mean that something is wetting around.
wetting speed of じゅんっ is more fast than じゅわぁ～ or じわぁ～.

>>18885127
its basically something like this

http://youtu.be/P4_HwzxnG0I#t=20

the first two lines from that timestamp that kinda idea

>>18885199
?

>>18885177
Wow u de tecnikal dude

>>18885202
What do you mean by "wetting"?

>>18885127
Definition of そっと:
注意深く静かにするさま。
They hold out their cup for a refill in a reserved manner

鼕々

>>18885237
for examples,
someone drops water of in a cup and water makes to wet on the floor like じわぁ～.
水がじわぁ～っと床に濡れ広がる。

someone's sex organs around is wetting like じゅわっ by sexual fluids.

nothing makes me wanna jack off more than when djt explains japanese vaginal lubrication

>>18885296
l-lewd!

>>18885319
私もいゲイ

>>18885341
うん

Is learning kanji really the next step after learning kana? It looks that way in the guide but it seems like it would make sense to learn grammar and vocabulary first.

>>18885419
Don't fall for the RTK meme. Learn words, not individual kanji. Do so with the Core deck, and read Tae Kim at the same time.

>>18885419
You can't avoid 漢字 while learning vocab and grammar.

>挨拶遅れました。フレンドありがとうございます！よろしくです！
How do I respond to this smoothly?

Who knows any proxies that do not mind shipping shitty manga or LNs

>>18885470
apparently amazon being unable to ship physical manga is a temporary technical difficulty

>>18885476
they're not getting my money as long as they aren't providing the service

>>18885480
just letting you know do you don't spend like way too much buying 100 volumes of manga through a proxy right before it gets fixed

>>18885480
how much manga are we talking about here
also, do they come in some kind of tough card or paper, for durability? I wouldn't mind ordering some one day

>>18885457
よろしく～

>>18885419
Before you know it you'll be wishing that some writers used kanji more.

>>18885457
言っとくけどわたしはゲイ

>>18885582
Never change

おはようおにいちゃん

>>18885127
かんようくだよ

いそうろうだからね

はたらいてないってことだよ

２回目のおかわりは

きがひけるんだよ

Why do you guys consider RTK a meme? Genuine question

>>18885788
やっても日本語を学ばせないんだから

>>18885788
lurk tard

>>18885809
>>18885821
None of these answers provide any information.

>>18885828
rtkしてもデキナイ

>>18885788
It was superseded by SRS. Its old, and doesn't have any value outside a few similar looking kanji that aren't a big problem anyway.
The people that waste their time with it could have started reading much sooner.
Its most egregious sin is leading people astray with the overvaluation of the kanji in isolation.

>>18883199
WTF is 桐 supposed to mean. It's 216 from RTK and these types of kanji come up often. It's supposed to be an N1 kanji. I know that if I aim for fluency I should try to learn all the kanji. But when would 桐 ever come up?

>>18884170
If you read words/sentences it will happen almost instantly for common combinations like ました and for other combinations it will depend on how often you see them. It's like when you look at English you see the whole word at once instead of each letter in sequence: it will be exactly like that. But you have to actually see words for that to happen. If you just study kana itself I don't think it's possible.

Should I wait after learning my daily kanji to do Anki? Or does it not matter since retention is more important?

>きゃらぶき
まずそう

What the fuck is up with all these RTK people recently

>>18885946
ふき？

あれおいしくなくない

>>18883721
しないといけない = should do (double negation)
してはいけない = should not do

>>18885871
<- 桐乃

Fucking cunt neighbor thats been drilling every fucking morning at 9 am on the dot now has company in the form of a jackhammer that's been pounding away since 8 am outside. There goes any shred of hope that I'll get any studying done today.

>>18885871
>桐
桐（きり）ってこの木でしょう？日常生活で使うことはほとんどないと思う。「木の名前なんだろう」となんとなくわかれば十分だと思う。
自分も英語で何て呼ぶのか知らなかった。('paulownia tomentosa', is this common knowledge?)

>>18886407
Buy some noise canceling earphones and play some drone or house or something not too distracting

>>18886411
I tried, the music has to be so loud to drown out the drilling that I then can't sleep from it either. Plus I sleep on my side and it's uncomfortable as shit. I'm doomed. He didn't relent even on the fucking weekend.

>>18886418
Damn, I feel for you. I live in a community where the houses are real close to each other and the neighbor's kids are always screaming near my window early in the morning. Can't imagine how bad a jackhammer must be. Guess you could try seeing if your local library has study rooms you could use.

>>18886409
きのなまえって

みょうじにいっぱいつくから

さかなのつくかんじより

つかうとおもうよ

桜さくら　梅うめ　松まつ　杉すぎ　桃もも　楓かえで　柊ひいらぎ　榎えのき　etc.
↑みんな、「木」
もし興味があったら、googleとかで見た目を調べてみてください

>>18886435
いまにほんは

つつじ（かんじかけない）がまんかいだよ

あたしはすいせんとか（かんじかける）

きんもくせい（かんじかけない）がすき

When do you know when to omit the top part of 衣 in other kanji? Is it a per-case basis and doesn't really follow a pattern?

>>18886730
I can only remember 褒 for the case where it should be omitted. So yes, per-case.

I managed to read in the downtime!

Is listening to Japanese while doing something else going to help even if I don't fully pay attention to it?
Because I really want to try listening to some seyuu radio shows but also don't have enough time

>>18886900
It would probably help a little bit but not much at all.

Is listening to Japanese while doing something else going to help even if I don't fully pay attention to it?
Because I really want to try listening to some seyuu radio shows but also don't have enough time

I still get mixed up over when は is sounded like わ

Is it just safe to assume that its pronounced わ whenever its at the end of a word?

>>18886928
isn't it just when it's between words ?

>>18886928
isn't it just when it's between words?

>>18884154
F

I just started on grammar and was wondering; if the point of the first read through of tae kim is to just get a feel for the grammar and not necessarily to memorize/retain most of it, is there a limit to how much I should go through each day? Seems like it wouldn't matter if I do 3 chapters or 10 in that case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRkuX1RGf4
Just found this guys. Showed this to my Japanese friend and he said he sounds completely fluent. Looks like I'm going to have to follow this "AJATT" site, is it any good?

>>18886948
no read all the time and take amphetamines instead aka rattata

>>18886978
What's that?

it was a good thread for about 10 hours there

>>18887023
it's when you read all the time and take amphetamines

nuke and memrise not ajatt and matt okay god bless

stfu all

Sometimes I wonder if there's a bot or something that has stored 30-40 copypastas and posts them at random intervals here

ajatt

>>18887230
pretty shit です

>>18887245
Wait can です actually mean t b h?

>>18887245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOu87oS8JVc

>>18887229
It's even worse. It's live, actual people with brains and thoughts doing the posting. It would almost be a relief if it were a bot.

stfu allっつってんだろが

>>18887264
in my experience it's mostly used as punctuation

>>18887070
no.

So I just met this word: 出撃
Seriously, what the FUCK is a sortie?

>>18887287
i'm questioning your use of っ

>>18887328
ok

>>18886946
There is no reason to limit yourself. Read as much per day as you want.

Is AJATT a real thing or just an elaborate meme? I checked out the site and it appears as if it was written by someone who has the English fluency level of an ESL student or 12 year old kid. It's no surprise then from what I see here and other threads why its proponents (who I honestly thought were just shitposters) are so averse to grammar. They have no fucking clue as to why studying grammar is useful, and necessary, even in their own native English.

>>18887264
エスエムエィチゥ

ティビエィチゥ

ファム

>>18887458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCFyD_Q51k
Results of AJATT

>>18887321
Is taking drugs really necessary for learning nip? Its not something I really wanna resort to

>>18887458
>They have no fucking clue as to why studying grammar is useful, and necessary,
Looks like you failed technical writing class.

>>18887480
>エィチゥ
gesundheit lol

>>18887498
Nah, it just helps. Without the drugs you have to spend a few more months for the same amount of progress, that's all.

minna genki? lol

>>18887518
iie :(*

>>18887518
ええ

How to learn Japanese
1. (Optional) Learn some words
2. (Optional) Learn some grammar
3. Read lots of eroge
Congratulations you now know Japanese

>>18887609
this

how good must i be read TRUE vns like tsukihime instead of shitty eroges?

i want to read tsukihime as soon as the remake releases instead of waiting months for someone else to.

>>18887633
Considering that it's going to come out 10000000000 years from now, you have plenty of time to learn Japanese. You could even learn it through osmosis from the shared subconsciousness via meditation, and still be done before the remake releases.

>>18887633
wanting to read the trash remake with miniskirt arc just shows youll never make it

also nasu shit even back then wasnt so good id call them anything but true mediocrity

>>18887609
1 and 2 aren't optional, if you try to read before learning grammar or words you'll just be staring at moonrunes you don't understand. This is dumb. Let me make your post accurate:

1. Learn some words
2. (Optional) Learn more words
3. Learn some grammar
4. (Optional) Learn more grammar
5. Read lots of eroge

>>18887648
i mean i wouldnt call them anything but true mediocrity ~_~

>>18887649
I stand corrected

>>18887649
new borns in japan don't get to read tae kim before learning how grammar is used

How to learn Japanese
1. Learn very few words
2. (Optional) Learn more words
3. Learn very basic grammar
4. (Optional) Learn more grammar
5. Read lots of eroge
Congratulations you now know Japanese

>>18887667
yeah but being told "verbs are usually at the ends of sentences not the middle, also wa and ga don't mean 'is' da does" is pretty helpful

>>18887648
What do you think is good then?

>>18887667
They also don't learn Japanese by reading eroge. I can rephrase his guide in another way if you want.

How to learn Japanese
1. (Optional) Learn some words
2. (Optional) Learn some grammar
3. Spend 5+ years constantly surrounded by Japanese people speaking to you in baby tones while making an active effort for you to understand what they're saying. Add on 5+ more years to get a functional grasp on the language.

1. read more

>>18887680
any of the major titles from elf in the 90s
anything from blue gale pre 2005

How to learn Japanese
1. Fuck around with Genki for a month
2. Switch to doing RTK in backwards order on memrise, only do 500
3. Read the first section of Tae Kim, do not understand or remember most of it
4. Start core2k, give up immediately.
5. Finish up RTK in correct order
6. Finish up Tae Kim
7. Learn the 250 most common words
8. Mine, read, watch anime as much as possible

Please redpill me on the third volume of RTK
I've just finished the first 2200 kanji from the first book and I'm not sure what to do next. Is learning the additional 1000 characters in isolation worth it? Or is it better to utilize my free time by increasing the daily dose of vocab?

How should I read 身体?

>>18887808
I'm in the same boat as you, basically just gonna not do it. If later down the road I feel like it's necessary I'll pick it up, shouldn't take much more than a month

>>18887842
Usually からだ

>>18887808
Where do you see RTK anywhere in >>18887609
>>18887649
>>18887672

>>18887876
Oh, I fucked up
never gonna make it then

>>18887808
You'll see Kanji that aren't part of the Book 1 set pretty frequently. If you fell for the RTK meme you might as well bite the bullet and finish the last 800 at your own pace.

It doesn't have to be a priority because you won't be dealing with super common characters in Book 3 anyway so you won't be missing out on shit like 来 if you dawdle

does anyone know the reading difficulty of 大帝国?

>>18887808
No. By the time you know 2K kanji (in words) you'll be good enough to learn new kanji trivially without RTK or just use RTK's technique at the same time you're learning words. The selection is also pretty much random. It's missing a bunch of kanji you need to know and has some that I've never seen.

大

>>18888020
well lets see its an adult game so id probably guess its at an adult reading level lol next question

>>18887955
>>18888034
>>18887854
Thanks, I'm not going to do it then.

Did Heisig ever get around to learning Japanese or is he the original Nukemarine?`

>>18888075
Nukemarine doesn't know japanese?

腹減った

Anyone got any idea how Evenicle would be for learning?

>>18888075
He wrote the book before he learned Japanese but since then he's published many works in Japanese and gives university lectures in Japanese.

You can read his Japanese philosophy essays here:
http://nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp/ja/staff/heisig-selected-essays/

>Tfw in that awkward position of knowing enough Japanese to be distracted reading English subtitles while hearing Japanese at the same time, but not enough Japanese to ditch the subs completely.
Guess there's no turning back now. Gotta learn Japanese all the way so I can ditch these fucking subs.

>>18888168
why are kids so stubborn that they go for the shit they cant read when they cant read

>>18887711
Are you like 40 years old? lol
Go play some Yuzusoft, ossan.

>>18888219
im the real deal in a sea of fakes ya lil yung ass

>>18888193
ぺこらを見て

>>18888227
ぺこらって何？

>>18888193
if that's actually a problem then your english reading speed is probably the bigger issue

>>18888249
No it's not that. My mind wants to listen to what they're saying, but also needs to read the subtitles. Both of which are in a different language.
Before I started learning Japanese, I didn't understand a thing they were saying so my mind just completely ignored it. Was just a bunch of sounds to me.
But it's not just a bunch of sounds now. It's kind of like reading one thing in English but hearing something else in the same language.

>>18888271
if its something really wordy i guess i can understand maybe

is english your first language? if not that also makes sense to me but like regular tv shit you shouldnt even bat an eyelash

>>18888208
ive never read a fucking fantasy vn so how would i know how difficult they typically are, especially one made by alicesoft of all studios

Is reading all of Kims complete guide enough to start reading?

your dream of learning japanese is possible

>>18888345
so are you agreeing with me and reevaluating your mental process here or

>>18888350
Reading half of Kim-chans guide is enough to start reading.

>>18888356
http://youtu.be/9JKpE4tPBYE#t=76

>>18888361
no im saying your reply gave me no clue as to how difficult it is as a vn
it wouldn't be my first vn overall, just first fantasy

>>18888350
do not use the complete guide, it's incomplete

はいさい

>>18888412
oh well here >>18888052

like literally no one knows what pieces of the nihongo puzzle you have already put together so just fuckin have at whatever like all the fools who dare to challenge visual games when they cant even best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AKDApA7lN4

おはよー

todays nihongo word of the day is 検索

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>>18888246
子供のアニメ

>>18888413
Well rip then, just finished it.
Guess I'll look through the other guide and see what I am missing.

you can't say boring without saying wife

>>18888443

>>18888443
>all of that hiragana
I'd rather read a vn

╮(︶︿︶)╭

いほうしちょうはやめよう

>>18883199
What are terms for all the specific types of moe? Particularly, I am interested in knowing what kind of moe a girl you can't help but care for and protect possesses.

>>18888814
ゲイもえ

Élって

白にみえない？

>>18888845
見えませーん

キミのたわごとは

>>18888838
ゲイじゃないわ

I decided to read all day, so I guess this is my new record for amount read in a single day

>>18888855
みえるくせに

えっち

>>18888983
Whats' that and what'd you read?

>>18889056
Character count on the left, line count on the right
大図書館

>>18889070
>Character count on the left, line count on the right
Yeah, I meant is that some software you wrote or does the ITHVNR to Firefox script still work?
>大図書館
How are you liking it? I wanted to give it a go but since I heard it was good I decided to save it for when I have to stop less frequently.

>ほね
>bone
are these words lexically related?

>>18889097
Its in the guide, yes its the ith firefox thing
And im liking it a lot, its my first vn and after 2 months i finally finished the common route and ive been working on the character routes today

Just a heads up that Amazon Japan seems to be shipping books/manga internationally again, since I know I wasn't the only one complaining in these threads earlier.

>>18889127
Cool. Guess I'll try it as my second VN.
>>18889143
Blessings, thanks anon.

Could anyone help with reading the text in the middle for ants please? Particularly the kanji.
ゴミのボイ　てはよくないな
That's my best guess.

>>18889160
ポイ捨て

>>18889169
That checks out. Thanks for the help.

>ここで波乗りだ！

The announcer in this isn't as ridiculous as the English version, but surely has his moments.

>おっと every fucking line
>おっと麻痺して動けません！
>おっと！ダウンだ！！！

>uses english gratuitously
>おおきなダメジ！！！
>急所にHIT

>>18889222
its like you never watched a fighting match before

Is there a rule for using the other forms of the kanji for a particular word? For example, are there differences in nuance when one is using 探す instead of 捜す?

>>18889240
Yes.

>>18889240
There isn't ``a'' rule. There are rules. You know, for each word. You need to learn each case individually. But most of the time you can get away with using the more general kanji.

I'm unable to recognize what the word is when I hear them but I'm able to read the same word and recall its definition if I saw it written. Is this a common problem that will go away if I keep listening? I think I'm too dependent on seeing the kanji to recognize words and their meaning. I kind of have the same problem when a word I'm used to seeing written in kanji is in all kana.

>>18889260
Yes.

>>18889248
>>18889250
ah.

Dammit. I thought the alternate forms of the kanji for a vocab are even stronger than synonyms and completely interchangeable. Should've known 日本語 is not that kind!

>>18889268
On occasion they are basically interchangeable. In most cases they are not.

>>18889109
>缶
>かん
>a can
Absolutely a coincidence.

>>18888501
子供のアニメを見たくないけど

>>18889280
おとなのあにめってなに？

>>18889280
ドラえもん!!!
ドラえもんを見なければならない!!!
絶対見なきゃ (; ･`д･´)

>>18889307
H

>>18889307
苺ましまろ

>>18889307
ハム太郎

>>18889307
大長編ドラえもん

watarkshee wah gay

>got a word on Anki yesterday, pressed "good"
>come across it in reading, tried really hard to remember it, unsure of how it goes
>look it up on a dictionary
>haven't done my Anki yet
I've cheated on my Anki and now I will never learn Japanese. Good knowing you folks, especially the lower-case typists. (One? of) your explanation on the differences between Handbook of and Dictionary of Japanese Grammar was stellar.

>>18889418
what are the differences

>>18889433
>>/jp/thread/S18730410#p18732649

俺はステレート

>>18889463
嘘

>>18889467
嘘ではない

ちんこしゃぶりてぇ

エロスには興味がない

しゃぶりてぇなぁ

>>18889519
大ゲイ

顔に出して

早くぅザーメンちょうだい

>>18889307
プリキュア

>>18885431
>he didn't do RTK
the return investment is worth it imo

神鳴り = 雷? Perhaps?

わたしのツラに出してほしいの

>>18886730
袋　bag
裂く　tear

>>18889622
Yes. http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/study/10958/1299762655/l50

>>18889640
Yes! i figured it out all by myself.

>>18889616
no its not imo

>>18889717
not him but I found it kinda helpful when it comes to not mixing up shit and writing

dont do retarding the kanji and just learn nihongo

Are there any specific rules for chaining honorifics or can you just do whatever the fuck you want?

>>18889748
what are you even asking about

>>18889320
だいぶせんのうされていますね

69 keigo combo lol

>>18889748
anonkunsamasensei!

jisatsu.

>>18889737
do retreading the kangaroo

>>18889802
Aussies go away

whats all this hullabaloo

>>18889809
thats another fantastic book made by the same author

>tfw no jp gf

i dont personally know that feel

>>18889729
>writing

Your daily japanese phrase is "omai wa moo shen dey roo" please check back tomorrow for your next daily japanese phrase

>>18889748
>or can you just do whatever the fuck you want?
それはレイプよ

tooRetardedTolearnKanjinormally

>>18889828
>3dpd

>>18889879
old meme

too retarded for anki to work
too smart for handwriting to work
this is the only path
unlimited reading works

>>18889890
you're an old meme

>>18889890
fuck off normalshitter

>>18889899
>>18889904
whatever dude you can hate on me all day and it's not gonna change the fact that your "waifus" are lame... it's just a drawing

>>18889943
eat shit faggot

>>18889948
it's just a drawing dude stop acting like this
it's not gonna change anything, it's just a motionless painting

>>18889955
respect the triple-double-doubles

whats yalls problem

>>18889955
you right now lol
on the wrong board

When will you autists learn to ignore and report?

>>18889994
/jp/ does not equal "beyond repair no-life degenerate schizophrenic weeaboo"

>>18890003
when will you

>>18889955
eat shit faggot

>>18890009
disliking 3dpd is not a "beyond repair no-life degenerate schizophrenic weeaboo" meme

>>18890017
like theres a billion top tier neptune girls and u pick the f tier one

>>18890017
stop hating on me for not feeling attracted/getting emotional over colored drawings

>>18890022
i'm sorry that the badmouthed magic battle highschool writer is the perfect fit for the conversation at hand

How do japanese people type kanji out on keyboards? Do they just type the hiragana and it appears automatically or as a suggestion?

>>18890050
Yes. Download a Japanese IME and see for yourself.

>>18890050
they type hiraganas in romanjis which with a dash of ime magic becomes kanjis

>>18889307
Use 漢字 and カタカナ properly you fucking shitstain.

anyone who says shit stain at someone has to have clinical aspergers

>>18890095
You're a shitstain.

>>18890122
yea well sos your face

俺のオマンコの中に出せ！

>>18890163
Porn is definitely the best way to learn a language

中も気持ちいいけどクリのほうがもっと気持ちいい

>>18890208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riYNSSRjoEA

あたしのまんこのなかにだしてくれないか？

あげない

え？なんで？

ブサイから

なにが？

顔

ええ？？！　そ　そんあああ！！！！

だからあげない

ひどい

>>18890073
けもフレをみないでか

おやのあにめだからおとなのあにめ

そのこころはたつきをみる

立つ木を見る

ね？おとなのあにめでしょ？

>>18890361
>立つ木を見る

>>18890361
なに the fuck are you いうing?

>>18890398
こういうあのんがふえたら／ｄｊｔ／もすえだとおもうよ

酔ってるか

まだ昼だぞ

So I just realized that one of my premade cards had the wrong kanji -- how does shit like this even happen? You have to fucking try to fuck something like this up.
>張り切る「ふりきる」

>>18890417
>／ｄｊｔ／もすえだ

>>18890403
おなかすいた

チップスターたべたい

>>18890865
>チップスター
Chip star?

Good jp video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYNADOHhVY

why is 4chan down every other day these days?

>>18891080
hiro is probably data mining 4chan
nevertheless I don't think this is really the right thread or board to ask that

動詞を使わない長い名詞句を作るのは難しい

If I have an older brother and I'm talking about him, as his brother do I use onii-chan, aniki or something else?

>>18891149
I'd be pretty weirded out if my autistic little brother suddenly started calling me "onii-chan"

>>18891177
What should I call him then?
Onii-san?

>>18891149
>>18891177

>>18891080
Some /r9k/ guy truck'd people in Canada, so the FBI wants the 4chan databases

>>18891149
cute
おにーちゃん
おにーさま
にいさん
にいさま
にいちゃん
にいさん
あにき
あにじゃ
(just your first name)
friendly

>>18891187
Would I still use -chan if I'm a male talking about a male in a no homo way though? I was under the impression -chan is used when you think someone is cute or you're dating them

>>18891198
surely,I think so too.
plus onii chan is used by children.
they stops to call to big brother by oniichan after they become about junior high schooler.
because they get ashamed.

>>18891187
おにいちゃんキャラといえば？

>>18891257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9yO1QNEg0

>>18891264
すごいなあ

プリンセスクレープが

>>18883199
Are there any vns that have a lot of different speech patterns (from overly casual to archaic and what not) and I could find interesting? (My favourite ones have been yu-no, 999 and saya no uta so far)

>>18891228
>because they get ashamed.

>>18889640
>蘇る is derived from 黄泉帰る
Neat.

>>18887633
>remake releases
I was a wee young lad reading Tsukihime in translation when this shit was already announced. So based on my experience, if you stop learning now and start learning in ten years, you'll be good to go.

おにいちゃんにクイズ

ごはんのことを

しゃりっていうのは

なんででしょう？

>その　いたさと　いったら　ありません
What's this mean? Context is that a wolf is trying to eat a little girl but he steps in a bear trap by accident. I've asked a few natives but I think it's an idiom and they're getting stuck up on that fact and not explaining it well. The most useful information I got was that if it's written as 言ったら instead then the meaning is different, presumably because the idiom is set as kana only.

>>18891513
舎利かな

>>18891523
Same poster here, to clarify I know that いたさ is the noun-quantity form of いたい so I assume the と is the quoting particle, and いったら is the たら form of 言う, but since it's apparently an idiom (or maybe expression and the explainer messed up their English) I can't make out the meaning.

>>18889640
Posts like this is why I keep coming here

>>18891528
ぼけてっていってるんだよ

ばか

>>18891559
そのとおり

>>18891528
I didn't know it though I respect the Buddha.

Which version of 誘う do they use for JLPT? I know さそう is more commonly used in everyday speech, but the JLPT deck I downloaded has いざなう. Does it depend on the level of JLPT I sit for as well?

>>18891672
https://hinative.com/ja/questions/2399995

>>18891672
かぜ誘う

はなよりもなお

われはまた


いざなうじゃあ

５もじにならないでしょ

こまるでしょ？

>>18891710
何いってんの
さっぱりわからない
普通に言えよ

>>18891523
その　いたさと　いったら　ありません
→その　いたさと　いったら　（それ　いがい　には）ありません　
それ　いがい　には is omitted

いったら　＝　いう　ならば
いう　≒ せつめいする(explain)

その　いたさを　せつめいする　ならば　（それ　いがい　には）ありません
→その　いたさを　せつめい　できる　ものは　ほかには　ありません
→どんな　いたさ　よりも　いたい
→とても　いたい

>>18891523
"といったらありません" is masu-form of "といったらない"
https://j-nihongo.com/toittaranai/

「～というのは、言葉にできないほどだ」というような意味

>>18891782
>そのいたさたるや

こっちのいいかえなんじゃないかなあと

>>18891793
>>18891782
>N1 grammar in little red riding hood
fuck japan

So といったらない basically means that it was so much that you can't even put it into words?

>>18891810
よみかたというか

はつおんは

>ってったらない

になるよ

>>18891827
Thanks but you're really not helping, please explain it in English instead of artificially making the explanation harder for no reason. It's an expression, nobody is getting anything from the explanation being fully in Japanese. Masturbate somewhere else.

>>18891834
悪口いえばだめよ

>>18891810
probably that's right

>>18891847
Is that わるくち or あっこう? Please only use kana in your future posts, so that no such misunderstandings may happen.

>>18891847
おめでとう、僕の日本語より君の日本語の方がもっと上手です。気持ちいの？おめでとう。

兇暴になりたくないけど、この「ほらほら！俺さまは上手だぜ！お前はこの説明がわからなければ、お前がまだ弱すぎるぜ！」っぽいな振る舞いは精神薄弱みたい。

>>18891855
Thanks anon

>>18891863
warukuchi is correct

>>18891864
>僕

>>18891864
精神薄弱という言葉を選ぶ当り既にレベル高い

>>18891870
わるくちはだめだよ

およしなさい

this Japanese sentence is impossible to understand
歩きながらスマホをいじる人を私は見た。

which does mean it?

I saw a man who is walking while using a smartphone.
I saw a man who is using a smartphone when I am walking.

>>18892022
First one.

>>18892022
I saw smombies.

これどこのちほーのほうげん？

にほんごだと

歩きスマホをつかうよ

>>18892022
first one

I saw a man who is walking while using a smartphone.
→歩きながらスマホをいじる人を私は見た。

I saw a man who is using a smartphone when I am walking.
→スマホをいじる人を私は歩きながら見た

>>18892054
こっちもあるきスマホで

あっちもあるきスマホだったら

どうするの？

>>18892036
>>18892053
>>18892054
なるほど。だよねぇ。
たまに、強調表現で倒置させたりする文があってめんどうくさいんだよね。
ありがとうあのんくんたち。