/jp/ - Otaku Culture

who else /98% retention rate/ here?

調子どう unko boys is today gonna be the day we turn this sinking ship around

>>18831129
are you me

昨日の試験散々だったわ
午後対策もっとしっかりやっとくんだった

>>18831138
my man
all these dekinais can't keep up with us

>>18831138
>studied 15 cards
>due tomorrow: 4 cards
b-bro...??

>>18831148
I'm so advanced that I barely even have enough words to mine, get on my level bro
>>18831145
Feels good to be in the 出来る club

Anyone who has questions about learning Japanese should consult the guide in the OP first.

>>18831144
>試験
wwwwマジワロす

Can I skip learning Romanji and just jump into hirakana and katakana?

>>18831202
No.

Is there any comfy Telegram/Discord groups for DJT?

>>18831202
Hirokana and katanakana are actually useless. Even more useless than romanji. They're basically the baby version of the language, and it's equivalent to learning how to read, write and speak from Tommy Pickles. Cut straight to kanji, with the fastest way of learning the basic 3000 that you need to read a simple children's book being to print them all out and copy them by hand (pro tip: tracing them saves some time). Once you've done that, you're probably ready to practice speaking, so just go outside and use all the kanji you learned over the last 2 years (as per the above) by narrating your life as best you can out loud. Film it and review it daily to monitor your sick moon gainz. Lastly, move to Japan and teach English. Good luck, cunt.

>>18831202
Why bother with kana? Ramenji is all you actually need.

>>18831202
Too late, you've already learned romaji

>>18831202
It wouldn't take more than a day or two to learn the kana. Spend a day(or night) on hiragana then another on katakana, then jump into any kanji method.

todays nihongo word of the day is a audio nihongo word of the day https://vocaroo.com/i/s1uZrPft4sXy

check back tomorrow for the next nihongo word of the day

>>18831264
wtf you don't have an australian accent

>>18831138
Spaced repetition algorithms are a tradeoff between retention rate and the frequency/amount of reviews. The Anki dev decided that 90% retention is a reasonable amount (see: the Anki manual).
If your retention is a lot higher than that, you're wasting time by not using Anki properly: Either you're reviewing stuff you already know well enough / encounter often enough that you don't need Anki to remember it, or you're not using the easy/hard buttons correctly.
Either way, you could probably reduce the time you spend on Anki without impacting your learning progress.

>>18831274
why would i have one of those mate

I kind of feel like I should just sit down and read through a grammar dictionary. Not extensively, of course, just a couple entries per day.

>>18831314
Sure, why not. Grammar dictionaries are compelling, interesting, and easy to read. Just like most good dictionaries!

>>18831356
I am autistic enough that it could be interesting. Besides, if I just flip through a few entries while taking a shit, it's fine. Obviously my main input would still be from REAL Japanese like LNs and VNs as well as manga and games.

>>18831385
>REAL Japanese
>LNs and VNs as well as manga and games

>>18831385
>I am autistic enough that it could be interesting
Don't need to be autistic to find dictionaries interesting!

>>18831277
More specifically: According to the formula in the Anki manual, you need 5 times a many reviews to go from 90% retention to a guaranteed 98%.
Or, if you're at 98% right now, you could reduce your rewiews by 80% while still maintaining a retention rate of 90%.
That's how much time you're wasting in Anki that you could spend on enjoying japanese content instead.

i was reading this one visual game called with you~みつめていたい~ and i gotta tell you that is some real ninja nihongo

>>18831396
How hard is it to get 100% completion, then? I can't seem to get rid of that last 2% of young cards and now it had boomed to 5%. It kinda bothers me, but I genuinely can't do it.

おはよー

>>18831438
今日は！

>>18831438
よーは！

minna genki?

If there's a fairly fluent person here right now I want to ask them, was it worth the effort? Can you read or watch all that raw material with next to no problems? Did you move and settled in Japan? Whatever your motivation was I'd like to know if you made it and how does it feel.

>>18831557
genki janai

warusugiru!

waraisugiru!

>>18831572
Yes hello I am a fluent person, I think it was worth it because now I can stroke my penis to more varieties of porn, that alone already makes the journey worth it. And yeah I tried to move to japan but my mom said no so I gave up. but anyway I think it was worth it so if you want to masturbate to porn more I definitely recommend it, thanks for asking

>>18831572
I can watch most things raw with no problems but I'm a lazy fuck so my kanji knowledge is still shit. Considering my "studying" was watching lots of anime, I'd say it was worth it

>>18831620
Post your JLPT certificate scrub

>>18831572
>was it worth the effort?
what a pointless question

Why aren't you using the Finnish method yet, DJT?

>>18831633
What's that? Learn Norwegian first because Finnish textbooks in Norwegian are better written?

Wait, I might be thinking of Icelandic.

>>18831633
I have no idea what that is and I don't want to take language advice from the fuckers with the ugliest language in the world

This is really difficult stuff not only remembering what each Kanji means but also how they're pronounced. I'm studying both Core2k/6k vocab and Heisigs remembering the Kanji. Progress is really slow right now.

>>18831640
I was thinking the same thing.

>>18831611
Learning for the sake of chugging more porn material is actually on my list of motivations, though they're overshadowed by bigger reason like actually talking to japanese people and immerse in the culture for a determined amount of time.

Even though just being a foreigner is enough to attract their attention.

>>18831629
I've seen people put effort into things, and then drop it all for whatever reason.

>>18831620
I'd say if you don't plan to go beyond anime you're in a good spot right now.

>>18831762

>>18831762

20,832 characters / 1,077 lines
疲れた

>>18831846
I'm proud of you, anon.

>>18831846
How did you measure this and how was it compared to yesterday's?

>>18831900
Its in the guide, setting up a page on firefox where your copied text goes and is counted
and yesterday i only did 8.5k characters/400 lines

Anyone else watching the new Layton anime?
It's not getting subbed and it's fairly easy since it's a children's anime. You get to show off your e-peen for watching a show without english subs.

>>18831572
It's not about the reward, it's about the friends I made along the way.

>>18832050
So how many friends did you make?

>>18832041
Sounds like something I should pick up even if I don't know something about the series.

>>18832052
How many unique IPs are in this thread?

>>18832064
1.

It's yourself.

I'm you, anon.

>>18832055
You can watch it without any prior knowledge of the series.

>>18832041
>already apparently confirmed to have 50 episodes
Why won't good anime get this many episodes?

>>18832072
That's good to know. ありがとうございます。

>>18832041
I wanted to play Layton's but I suuuuuck at puzzles, so maybe watching the anime is a better alternative.

>>18832076
Otaku aren't able to single handedly support the industry, that's why anime for kids have more budget

>>18832076
Watch less shit, retard.

>>18832101
Anon, what was the last anime that wasn't for kids and that didn't air in the 70's that had more than 24 episodes

>>18832150
Monster

>>18832150
There are tons of them if you count multiple seasons as part of the same show.

>>18832170
That doesn't make sense because some shows have multiple seasons made by completely different studios.

How old were you when you started learning 日本語?

>>18832300
29

>>18832300
25 and i wish i had started years ago. Ideally the very first time I had said "man i wish i could read japanese."

>>18832300
20

>>18832300
19. Started taking it seriously at 23.

>>18832300
I learned hiragana and katakana at about 2008-9, so 16.

I learned vocab and grammar on December last year.

>>18832041
Shit, that actually sounds like a good idea. I'll either have my ego inflated or crushed.

>>18832041
I wasn't very good at the games, and they were full of complicated-seeming riddles and puzzles that I think I'd have trouble understanding in Japanese. However, I haven't tried watching a show raw before, so I'll give it a go and see what I can do with it.
こっちはＮ４兵士あのん！出撃するぜ！

>>18831202
There is absolutely no reason for you to learn romanji. For any reason whatsoever.

whats the best romanji flashcard deck

>>18832358
どのように日本語で投稿するか？

>Amazon Japan isn't shipping books internationally anymore
Th-thanks.

>>18832410

冗談でしょ？？

>>18832410
It depends on the seller bro

>>18832418
Nope, the vast majority of books won't ship to international addresses anymore.

>>18832423
I'm not talking about people who sell on the Amazon marketplace, I'm talking about Amazon itself.

>>18832427
Fuck, I import a lot of CDs. Is it everything that's affected?

Does it cause anyone else great distress to read a manga in English? I saw a few pages posted on another board and it was all so horrifyingly wrong. You really don't know how much you're missing out on if you love manga but can't read it in Japanese

>>18832427
Welp, time to move to hmv

>>18832435
I focused on learning Japanese these past few months because there's a manga I wanted to read and it seems to be untranslated. Then I figure out it had an LN, so I'm reading that now, very slowly.

Then the manga started getting scanlated and now I am this close to just quitting the whole project.

Guys how do you say "this is not japan so stop bowing"?

I think it "koko de nihon ja nai dakara ojiki wa yamete kudasai" but I can barely put a sentence together and I want to have a more informal talk with someone (since I can hardly do formal speech except some simple phrases)

>>18832430
It seems to be mostly books that are affected.

>>18832435
I'm not good enough to watch raw, but sometimes I catch stuff that is just totally wrong. It's pretty scary.

>>18832442
ここでは日本じゃないから弓道をやめてください。

>>18832442
>production

>>18832442
That just sounds really rude man, I understand you're autistic and all but 空気を読みなさい

>>18832454
>弓道

>>18832435
>パーティに行こう
>"I dare say if we don't scamper off for the masque we'll hardly still have invitations!"

>>18832476
>パーティに行こう
>Let's party hard
This is a more accurate scanlation

>>18832442
ここは日本じゃないので、おじきをやめてくださいよ。それと、中出しの喜びを教えてください。

what the FUCK is an おじき

>>18832463

>go to /a/ or just generally anywhere EOPs hang out
>"You can't watch dubbed anime, the jokes are written for Japanese so you need to watch it subbed to enjoy it the way it was meant to be enjoyed"

It's like they completely ignore the fact that subtitles are forced and just as terrible as dubs at conveying word play and nuances in general.

>>18832499
Did you forget to type in your post or something man?

>>18832501
Who the fuck cares

>>18832501
Subtitles have the benefit of not having to be written in a way that matches lip flaps, so they do tend to be better on some level than dubs. Obviously they are still bad at conveying original Japanese meaning of jokes and shit, but it tends to be at least somewhat better than dubs.

Dubs should just stop bothering to match lip flaps, its not like the nips bother to match lip flaps in their native media anyway.

>>18832448
Same, and it's starts to dawn on you that are learning.

>>18832501
>the jokes are written for Japanese so you need to watch it subbed to enjoy it the way it was meant to be enjoyed"
said no one ever
its because the real english voice actors are busy doing live action
and a bad actor is a bad voice actor

Any Japanese learning apps I should buy on iphone?

>>18832528
anki

>>18832528
>buy
>iphone
>learning apps
There's so much wrong with this post that I'm not even gonna bother to point it all out

>>18832528
>buy
>iphone
あっち行け

I will be visiting japan this summer on vacation, and plan to visit some nice soaplands while I am there. Can anyone offer some good locations or forums/image boards to talk with people about the prostitution scene in Japan?

最高なポケットモンスターゲームがポケモンコロシアムですか？

>>18832579
No, actually

>>18832357
Mm well, after watching a little bit, it's actually fairly doable for the most part. However, when the heroine gets excited and starts talking really fast, I get lost.

>>18832596
Darn, /jp/ was the first place I thought to ask. Guess i'll have to look around some more...

私はオカマ

>>18832633
Why don't you just make a new thread
I can't guarantee it'll stay up but you'll probably get a few meme answers before it gets shut down

>>18832633
what a hero

>>18832641
But I don't want meme answers, how is what I asked not belong in the /jp/ board? Surely it's not breaking any rules.

>>18832647
you are making me a confuse.

>>18832652
also not trying to derail, just didn't think my question deserved a whole thread...

>>18832652
Faggot retard just make a new thread and stop posting here. Nobody is gonna answer you seriously, this thread isn't here for teaching you how to buy prostitutes.

>>18832662
whoa dude no need to be so hostile, didn't mean to trigger the shit out of you

>>18832579
Prostitution is illegal in Japan, hope you get caught in a sting op and rot in Japanese prison.

>>18832674
Has this actually happened to a foreigner?

>>18832674
actually coitus is only illegal and many of those rules only apply to businesses running those services. It is not illegal for women themselves to offer sex services.

nice fucking thread boys

I wish there was an ENTIRE BOARD dedicated to travelling in foreign countries.... And god, imagine if that board had a 24/7 general dedicated to travelling in Japan? And what if there was an FAQ about prostitutes in that thread's OP? That would be something else

>>18832771
Dude, /trv/ is literally Travel. It can't get more travel than that. Second choice would be /int/ since they have many threads discussing culture.

>>18832774
>>Dude, /trv/ is literally Travel. It can't get more travel than that.
I think that's his point.

>>18832774

Do you guys prefer isolated kanji study or kanji with vocabulary?

>>18832776
Well his sarcasm wasn't really obvious. Not adapting your speech nuances to the internet medium is a sign of terminal autism.

>>18832781
>>Well his sarcasm wasn't really obvious.
And then you have the gall to call other people autistic.

>>18832781
You might be the one with autism, nii san

seriously real nice fuckin thread

>>18832798
>>18832795
>>18832781
We're on 4chan arguing about tone on a weeb learning thread. Let's face it, we're all autistic.

外人豚でてけ
日本こないで

>>18832795
>>18832798
Sorry for not understanding the nuance a fucking banana duck pic brought to the table. I'll study up on 自閉症語.

>>18832808
オオガボオガ黄色女はどこだ？

>>18832811
You're an idiot

>>18832822
>You're an idiot
I think you mean ''your''.

>>18831125
Any specific manga suggestions without furigana, but not terrible with kanji? Tired of whiting out furigana before reading a manga.

>>18832851
ドラえもん, surprisingly enough
ニューゲーム

>>18832851
Dr. Slump

>>18832851
Also,
>Tired of whiting out furigana before reading a manga.
This just seems like a waste of time. It's not like accidentally glancing at furigana is a big deal.

>>18832868
It's just distracting and it feels like I'm not actually confirming whether or not I know a kanji at a glance.

>>18832771
oh i didn't know there was a travel board, ill go there

How does one IME on an Android

>>18832889
Google bro

What is the difference between Causative and Passive Causative form?

>>18832898
ありがとう

>>18832919
Google bro

わたしはfuckinゲイ

>>18831277
That's retarded. Why wouldn't you better say this to someone whose retention rate is a lot less than 90%.

>>18831428
To guarantee 100%, you would need to set the interval modifier to 0. Assuming this doesn't cause divide by 0 errors somewhere, this would result in infinite reviews. This would cause infinite reviews (all cards are due immediately after they're reviewed), or, if Anki has a minimum interval of 1 somewhere it would mean that you would need to review your whole collection once per day.

>>18831572
No, it was not worth it, but I don't regret it either.

>>18831572
You need to analyze your own motivations. Are you learning Japanese to watch anime and read manga? Can you not read or watch translated media instead? Are you going to experience a huge payoff for learning a new language to do something you can already do?

For me, I want to learn it so I can move to Japan and work in the chemical industry. Knowing two languages is a huge boost to employability, especially in the scientific field where there is a lot of international commerce and development. The payoff will be tangible.

>>18832991
get outta here and go back to wherever you came from

>>18832991
Both in science and general commerce. If you know Japanese and English, you're a fucking Golden child in Hawaii.

>>18833004
/sci/

>>18833005
But why would you go to hawaii out of all american states

>>18832991
Enjoy getting job offers with 20-30% lower salaries than youll get in the US while working 1.5x the hours.

>>18833021
I'll enjoy my much better retirement benefits and longer lifespan.

>>18833026
Kids these days *shakes head*

>>18833012
>Warm tropical climate
>Beautiful Scenery
>Insane tourism and commerce bux
>Bikinis everywhere
>Nip chicks everywhere
Gee anon idk.

>>18833026
>Work harder
>Longer lifespan
How does that work exactly?

>>18833042
Check the numbers for yourself, faggot

>>18833048
Butthurt? Your dream is a sham, bucko. You'll never be accepted in Japan. Accept your American wage slave existence and embrace otaku media like you were born to do

>>18833048
The numbers have to deal with many factors incukding genetics, diet, exercise, and evironment. Simply moving to Japan and working more for less isn't going to do shit for you

>>18833068
>working more for less

>>18833021
I was about to nitpick your math, but then I realised that 1.5x is actually pretty accurate when comparing 9 hours and 14 hours

>>18833021
small price to pay to avoid getting shot :^)

>>18832871
It's honestly harder to understand nip from kana than it is from kanji. Stop sperging out.

>>18833084
If you don't want to get shot then don't be a nigger

>start learning Japanese
> a (あ) is the most difficult grapheme

Question about Kanji with furigana. If something is meant to be read in On-yomi will the furigana change to reflect that? Or does it only show the Kun-Yomi reading? All the furigana I see is in hiragana and from other shit I've read, hiragana is used for Kun-yomi

>>18833152
it's not that difficult

I read 20 KB today. I feel like I need to read more

>>18833158
are... are you retarded?
It's how you fucking pronounce the word, this isn't rocket surgery.

>>18833167
It is. It looks nasty when I write it.
Pic related: my attempt at writing.

>>18833179
I know it's how it's pronounced but if you had say
金 with かね and 金曜日 with キンョビ then you'd be able to mentally distinguish between On/Kun readings with a quick affirmation

>>18833193
practice more, you think you wrote perfect a's when you were first learning the alphabet?

>>18833193
Is your English writing shit as well?

>>18833193
that's not how you write さ and そ bro
I'll let it pass since it's a rookie mistake

>>18833197
Pic related.
>>18833196
I don't remember. I was 5 when my grandma taught me.
>>18833202
I just imitate Namasensei.

>>18833206
is this supposed to be cursive?

>>18833207
Yes. I think it varies between countries. I only write latin in cursive.

>>18833206
Why do people write in cursive when they aren't interested in penmanship?

>>18833210
it was meant as an insult

>>18833194
You can learn japanese or you can be autistic, they dont mix well

>>18833214
There is no excuse to not writing in cursive unless you're an uneducated 3rd worlder.

>>18833218
But learning Japanese for the sole purpose of jacking off to anime tits without translations IS autistic.

>>18833214
Where I live, everyone writes in cursive. If you've finished 1st grade of primary school and you don't write in cursive, you are retarded.
>>18833217
Up yours.

>>18833222
i wrote so much cursive as a kid that my teachers complained, because they couldn't read it, and told me to write normally

>>18833222
Yeah, there is. If your cursive is shit, you should do everyone a favor and avoid it.

>>18833225
No it is heresy.
Learning japanese for the sole purpose of jacking off to anime flat chests is perfection.

>>18833202
His そ is fine.

>>18833232
I also switched to block letters at some point as a kid, then I stopped being a dumb faggot and just practised my cursive more. Now people call my writing pretty instead of unintelligible.

>>18833232
Nobody but yourself needs to read your cursive. The cursive is customiseable to your liking. It's like Linux of communication.

>>18833214
Cursive exists because its faster to write than block letters, not because it looks better.

Reminder that if you want to learn how to write, you need to practice calligraphy.

>>18833235
Nah it's wrong

>>18833234
I prefer flat chests.

>>18833234
I think you mean "budding chests".

>>18833252
The proper term is noppai

>>18833249
It's actually not, both ways of writing it by hand are fine.

How many volumes of manga do I have to read before I get good at reading them?

>>18833341
Not that many, actually, depending on your definition of "good" at least.

>>18833341
Everything in the djt library

>>18833247
そのがぞう

にほんの

しょどうじゃないよ

かんじがちがうんじゃなくて

筆がちがう

>>18833152
My nemesis back in the day was SU, that gay ass loop really killed me and still looks like shit.

>>18833449
you know you can cheat with that one? might as well write minuscule t and o just beneath the horizontal line
--|--
.o|..
...|..
sorry for shitty ASCII

>>18833461
That's absolutely not the correct stroke order and it will look even shittier than just drawing it normally so I advise not to do it

>>18833465
imho it looks more aesthetic

if your す looks like this then your す looks fine

>>18833461
にほんごは

これからも

たてがきが

きほんだよ

す

はこうだよ

>>18833474
there's no need to do the little curved tail at the end

>>18833480
No, it just happens if your handwriting isn't that good.

Do Japanese people get easily triggered by bad handwritings?

>>18833473
ぜんぶすにみえるとおもうよ

>>18833474
すにはみえないよ

>>18833490
There is no bad writing in japanese, just different styles
Unless you're 馬鹿外人 of course

>>18833500
Oh, so it's only OK if the Japanese do it.

よこぼうは

みぎあがりだよ

さいごは

はらうよ

>>18833509
Yeah, basically
It's like if you gave a retard a pen and make him write in block letters, it would still be pretty fucked up to read even if it's just block letters

>>18833509
Mutts can't into moon magic

>>18833529
I'm pretty sure we hakujin try harder to learn Japanese than they are trying to learn our languages.

>>18833517
protip: don't say "block letters" if you don't want people to know who you are. everybody else on the face of the planet says "print".

I've watched anime almost every day for many years, so I know what the language sounds like and how pronunciation works.
Can I start doing listening practice only after I get a good grasp on grammar and vocabulary? or should I really start sooner?
Listening practice is mostly just about identifying words right?

>>18833542
I don't know who you're talking about but I'm not him, and I fail to see how that's relevant at the moment

>>18833548
there are three posts with the phrase "block letters" in this thread (other than mine)

>>18833544
Sure, go ahead. What could go wrong, right?

>>18833542
>Block letters (known as printscript, manuscript, print writing or ball and stick in academics) are a sans-serif (or "gothic") style of writing Latin script in which the letters are individual glyphs, with no joining.

>>18833551
>What could go wrong, right?
The way I plan to do listening practice is by rewatching anime I've already seen.
But I don't want to do that while my grammar and vocab is still utter trash, because I actually do want to rewatch them partly for fun.

>>18833550
>>18833246 is ironically not me

>>18833560

>>18833543
And both are as embarassingly bad at it, except for the few weebs who reach enlightenment.

>>18833560
this article is faulty original research
>>18833565 is accurate

>>18833565
>>18833567
Stop, you are only embarrassing yourself and derailing the thread.

>>18833572
okay so you really are the person who was implying that cursive is standard and everyone who matters is good at it just because you are. cool

>>18833565
>>18833567
I use "print" as well, as "block letters" has always sounded weird to me. I don't care about how you define which is correct, either. What I'm disputing is
>everybody else on the face of the planet says "print".
which is demonstrably not the case.

>>18833566
I have witnessed my local Japanese ambassador delivering a speech in my native language. He gave up on it after two sentences and switched to Engrish.

>>18833577
i'm sorry you're too autistic to understand hyperbole

What's the best listening material that isn't Jpod101?

TYPOGRAPHY IS MY MERELY ONE OF MY PASSIONS

>>18833585
anime

>>18833578
Genuinely cute.

>>18833585
eroge with your eyes closed

>>18833587
>convert my favorite anime to mp3
>put on my phone and listen on repeat
might actually do this

>>18833585
boku no pico

>>18833585
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrAyDf7jzdw
Just download it as mp3 and play it on repeat, non-stop. You'll eventually become a 日本語の達人 in no time. Make sure to do it while you're sleeping too, it's even more effective if you do so

>>18833592
MattVsJapan did this, too.

The only cursive matters is the broken retardocursive that you invent yourself for writing in print quickly.

>>18833600
>>18833602
can i get a quick rundown on this guy

>>18833580
You can't even back up a claim that the number of people who call it such are an insignificant minority, so you're backpedaling is pointless.

>>18833611
he ignored his life and studied japanese for five/eight years and ended up technically fluent with an accent

>>18833614
anon you might be literally samefagging

>>18833619
Thank god i was worried he was figuratively samefagging.

>>18833622
literally means essentially/basically/effectively here not figuratively

>>18833625
>Literally doesn't mean figuratively
I'm figuratively shocked at your literal faggotry

>>18833625
>literally does not mean literally
English is unable.

>>18833637
woah words have synonyms and pseudosynonyms who would've thunk it

>>18833639
Amerimutts stop murdering the queens english.

>>18833346
>Not that many, actually, depending on your definition of "good" at least.
What about your definition of "many"?

>>18833641
you're the ones that prefer woah to whoa so i don't think you have much ground to stand on here

>>18833644
What about your definition of "of"?

>>18833639
english is really unable

>>18833611
he pretends to know japanese and scams people on patreon for hundreds of dollars

> djt
> argument about English

so business as usual here.

>>18833608
なにしゃべってるか

わからなくていいし

なにかいてあるか

わかんなくてもいいんだよ

>>18833625
so he's essentially/basically/effectively samefagging?
How does that work? Either he is or he isn't this isn't rocket surgery.

>>18833669
prototypical samefagging is responding to the same people multiple times or responding to yourself
you can also samefag by acting as though you're a different person in a related conversation without responding to the same post multiple times or responding to yourself, this is "effectively" samefagging

>>18833664
Who the heck are you quoting?

>>18833681
>prototypical samefagging is responding to the same people multiple times
Called a conversation, not samefagging
> or responding to yourself
samefagging
>you can also samefag by acting as though you're a different person in a related conversation without responding to the same post multiple times
Not samefagging
>or responding to yourself,
Already mentioned, Samefagging
As i said, not rocket surgery.

>>18833691
responding to the same post multiple times as though you are multiple people is samefagging anon
so is pretending you're a second person when you're actually the same person, even if you're not responding to yourself or responding to the same post multiple times

Pretending to be someone else is always samefagging dude. Even if you're not responding to yourself.

>>18833681
>acting as though you're a different person in a related conversation without responding to the same post multiple times or responding to yourself
so was he supposed to trip for you?

>>18833704
>I don't know who you're talking about but I'm not him

>>18833708
>another episode of everyone who shits on me is one person because how could multiple people think i'm retarded

>>18833711
stop samefagging

>>18833711
also the people telling you to shove it are more than one person

I finally have a somewhat good grasp on hiragana and katakana? Where to now bros? I got a little kanji booklet and a grammar book, but the book assumes you already know a lot of kanji and have a basic grasp on stuff. ;_;

>>18833771
Read all the time and take amphetamines, aka RATTATA.

So for new kanji, I've been doing answering "good" on Anki regardless of if I remember it or not until the "good" prompt brings it back in 1 day. Is this wrong or does it not matter? Should my real review of new words to see if I remember them be at the 4 day mark?

Only a week left until I'm done with core2k
feels like it took forever because i fell off after the first month.
glad to finally be moving on. i've been reading and stuff anyway but it's nice
thanks for reading my blog

>>18833851
How can you expect to learn Japanese when you can't even use English?

>>18833851
i don't think whether you hit again or good on a new card really matters. if you hit again you'll just see it in like 2-5 cards and it'll be the same anyway. If you hit good, the very next time you see it will be 1-day on good so yeah. But if you mean you're failing it once after learning it and then spamming good, that sounds kinda dumb

>>18833872
spamming good regardless of retention until you hit 4 days is retarded. that would mean passing it the next couple of days too

>>18833872
I typically do my learning in the morning and Anki at night.

>>18833880
how does that change anything

にほんはかんこうちだけだよ

かんこういがいで

くるのはやめたほうがいいよ

かんこうなら

にほんごはいらないよ

>>18833896
お風呂に入りなさい

>>18834014
にほんの

おふろにはいるのには

にほんごがいるとおもう

> お腹 (おなか)
> 腹 (はら)
Why? Isn't that just a prefix?

>>18834063
お兄(おにい)
兄(あに)

>>18834063
ぱらかもしれないし

ばらかもしれない

ふくかもしれない

ぶくかもしれない

ぷくかもしれない

うそかもしれないとおもう？

ほんとうです

>>18834203
Is this a rap

The key to Japanese success is Reading All The Time And Taking Amphetamines!

なまえはジェフ

>>18834252
Why not just post the japanese rickroll at this point

What sub group is the most accurate? I want to make sentence cards from anime.

>>18834214
のー

いっつ

とらっぷ

>>18834261
Don't learn Japanese through translations meant for consumption by EOPs.

>>18834266
Instead, consume Japanese through translations meant for Finnish people!

>>18834266
I don't have a big enough vocabulary to use a go full mono yet

>>18834273
You're not supposed to. You're supposed to read Japanese with a J-E dictionary. Pause your anime and texthook your video player if you need to.

>>18834277
Ah I see what you mean.

What is everyone planning on reading/watching today to study? I'm gonna keep on reading 大図書館
Also if anyone else has read it, can you tell me how far along I am? They just had the conference for ミンアフェス, and the MC + 白崎 shared an umbrella during a rainy walk home

>>18832161
Which at this point, is already 13 years old. Not a good example.

>>18834214
えいごまちがえたー

No this IS a trap.

のーじすいずあ

とらっぷ

こうかな？

>>18832528
Motherfucker

>>18832851
Nichibros

Is there a list of mnemonics that corresponds to the words in core 2k by any chance?

how many cards in should i be before attempting to read romanji

>>18834560
そうじゃなくて

コレはトラップだ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJiZsWvGeig

what do you guys think about bunpro.jp?

thinking about getting the lifetime subscription...

>>18835019
bad
read the guide
don't shill

Should I just keep upping my new card number until my retention rate starts going to shit? I have literally nothing to do all day and like doing anki reviews

>>18835126
>Instead of doing something actually useful like reading more, I want to sink even more time in to a tool that is intended to be used to supplement study

>>18831572
>was it worth the effort
Honestly if you have to ask this question it's probably not worth it for you.
I don't know why people always have to rank activities according to how useful they're going to be in the future. Why do people learn Spanish if they're never going to live in Spain? Because it's fun to acquire a new skill and hey, maybe it'll come in useful at some point. As long as you have your priorities set you shouldn't worry about how this sort of shit, just enjoy your life.

>>18835134
>Instead of killing myself I chose to respond to this post
Straighten yourself out, faggot

>>18835142
take your own advice dude this is a dont shill and chill zone

no hating take it outside my ganger

What on earth is a "coffee house cum pub?"
They're not referencing hentai right???

>>18835219
grammarist.com/usage/cum/
it's latin

>>18835219
It means 兼

>>18835246
Is that you, Jizzus Christ?

>>18835224

I'm always curious, do people like you legitimately believe you're answering a sincere question?

>>18835202
what in the world causes people to write "don't x and y" ever

>>18835301
supreme command over eigo innit mate

>>18835313
"don't x and y" means "don't x while y-ing", not whatever you think it means

>>18835318
spotted the esl

日本語
本
語

>>18835298
yes
believe it or not anon, posts on the internet are ambiguous and it's often hard to tell whether someone doesn't know something or is just pretending not to know something to do le ebic trole

>>18835324
if any of the people in this conversation is esl it's you
do you know the phrase "don't drink and drive"
spoiler every other instance of "don't x and y" works exactly the same way, no matter the context

>>18835331
i hope we can all nihongo together someday instead of

>>18835340
youre either retarded or esl and retarded take your pick

>>18835349
i'm sorry that whatever broken dialect of english you grew up with has grammar rules that directly contradict standard varieties of english, that doesn't make me retarded nor does it make me esl

>>18835353
pretty sure it does

Imagine the quality increase these threads would experience if this faggot fucked off.

>>18835381
yeah dude this threads really good when im not posting

go from here >>18832528 and notice the 2 posts i made in the whole time frame that went up to a couple hours ago

the fuck outta here hater youre garbage and will forever be : )

>>18835339

But that post for example was not even remotely ambiguous, not in the slightest. You're saying that you legitimately can't see that? That's kind of fascinating to be honest.

I know people with legitimate autism (not the internet meme kind) have trouble distinguishing between sincerity and insincerity like that, so I always wonder if it's more commonly people on the spectrum that give straight answers even to the most blatantly obvious troll posts.

>>18835400
you're diagnosing someone with autism based on their response to a shitpost on an anonymous image board. that's also quite fascinatingly autistic to me, buddy. fuck off back to your pseudointellectual hole and go learn some nihongo.

>>18835372
it's time for you to reflect on your ego
"don't drink and drive"
"don't run and gun"
"don't chew and talk"
this is a consequence of a very fundamental aspect of english syntactical precedence: adjunctives bind before anything polarity related occurs, unless derivational morphology is at play
"not good or bad"
"not right or wrong"
"not red or blue"
"not hot and spicy"
"not big and fluffy"
"not red and bright"
there is no standard variety of english where "don't x and y" can mean "y, don't x". sorry bud, you're in the wrong here, and your absurdly immature defensive reaction to it getting pointed out that you did not mean "don't do both x and y" is incredibly fucked up

>>18835419

Nah, I'm not diagnosing anyone with anything shitposter-kun, it's just interesting to me because I can't fathom not seeing stuff like that.

>>18835435
>it's just interesting to me because I can't fathom not seeing stuff like that.
lmao that's exactly what someone with autism would say, unironically
you just played yourself autist-chan

stop reeling in thinly veiled regret and fuck off somewhere already

>召し上がれ
What kind of attitude is a honorific verb in the command form supposed to convey? Mock deference?

Sorry for the crappy scan, that was all I could find.

>>18835578
it literally depends on how its said

>>18835615
Depends how?

>>18835578
>thug says it to another thug
sarcastic take on formality, command still stands
>very important person says it to someone who doesn't matter
formal decree

>>18835635
feast to your hearts content
please enjoy
eat my ninjas

get a sense of humor, you can get a cheap basic one at the dollar store

haters will never win

>「という訳で一一一さん（ひとついはじめさん）はこのたび主演して映画の方にも参加されましたが、いかがですか。」
These wacky japs with their wacky names.

>>18831125
So one of my friends wants me to learn spanish with them to keep them motivated. Only problem is, Japanese is starting to get good (3 months in) and I'm not sure how learning 2 languages simultaneously would work. Anyone have any advice? Should I go for it or just tell my friend to buzz off?

Even if I just applied a similar method to Spanish as I have Japanese (25 new vocab cards a day, study grammar once I have about 500-1000 vocab down) would this interfere with my Japanese study?

>>18835754
everyone acquires language the same way

>>18835754
Why would you learn a useless subhuman language like Spanish? Fuck your friends, concentrate on Japanese.

I'm studying to be an Electrical Engineer but I have been doing some computer programming on the side. Is it worth taking the N1, and subsequent proficiency tests if I want to put it as a marketable skill on my resume?

>>18832410
woah, it's true
I put my order from two weeks ago into my cart and tried buying it again (14 books, all sold by amazon, not third party sellers) and none of them can be shipped to me anymore.

>>18835754
I think you can progress 2-3 times as fast spanish due to no kanji and the similarity to english alone. It's pretty much the easiest language to learn as an English speaker.

>>18835754
>filling your head with useless garbage instead of superior nihongo
It's more important to be able to fap to raw doujin

Is there a single person in this thread that is learning Japanese to speak to people in Japanese?

>>18835790
Trying to read the latest Konosuba volume while adding useful vocab to anki. I'm at it for one week, still can't feel a change. I know it's probably too early but still. I just wanna be able to read without a dictionary eventually. I can't see the light yet, but I feel it can't be too far off.

>>18835790
I think you mean N5. N1 is already the highest certification you can get. Wondering the same though. I'm gonna major in math soon, so an N3 certificate sounds like a good bonus for my resume, or am I wrong?

>>18835839
and here i thought my writing was bad

>>18835837
i just want to read some japanese books

>>18835839
Yeah, N5 that's what I meant. Is there a reason to do the proficiency exam other than to apply to school/work in Japan?

>>18835837
I'll probably go to Japan eventually and use it there, but I don't plan to live there.

>>18835846
Writing for learning =/= writing to read imo. That and I wanna fill the sheet with kanji.

>>18835837
>talking to people
I just want to be able to read and listen.

>>18835837
Does lurking and occasionally talking in 2chan count? But mostly this >>18835852

>>18832410
>>18835818
It seems to be selective, extremely major releases (like SnK) as well as some random ones still ship to the US.

>>18835818
I used to use re-shippers (or forwarding companies) to order stuff from USA to Russia.
Surely there gotta be forwarders that will ship you stuff from japan?
It will be a bit more expensive of course.

>>18835888
Oh absolutely. There's a ton of them you can use. It gets expensive though.

>>18835837
No. There are two threads on /int/ for that.

>>18835839
>>18835846
>writing

>>18834452
>"that isn't from the 70s"

>>18835888
But the good thing about amazon was that they properly took care of the tax stuff.
Yes, it's more expensive, but with other sites I had to go pick up the package at the customs office all the time.

>>18832435
saw a translation today that was literally "Oof"
like from the memes that all the kids like.

In the time I've put in to reach N4 level, I could have learned a European language to C1 fluency. Was it even worth it?

>>18836335
Nope, you just wasted 5 years of your life

>>18836335
should've redd more

Nice, kanji that isn't even on frequency list. 閒

I just learned all the hiragana and all the katakana. What now? Do I study grammar or do I study 2k?

>>18836375
>Author uses 摑む instead of 掴む for some odd reason
Seriously why

>>18832150
Heybot.

>>18836383
Both

>>18836383
Study the guide in the OP post.

>>18836397
I've seen 摑 instead of 掴 only once in my life and I'm surprised it's not on my frequency list either.

>>18832300
Just this part year, so 20

>>18836397
Could a be some autocomplete/IME-related issue.
If it is a scan > text recognition of LN - could be a scan issue.

I can learn japanese!

>>18836497
I'm reading them as .png and it happened consistently, so I doubt that. Then again, there was that scanner which couldn't scan properly too

>>18836375
With a bit of googling
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%86%85%E7%94%B0%E7%99%BE%E9%96%93
A pen name the writer had picked for himself in pre-war period, before jouyou-fication.

what would be the most correct translation of "自分で思う"?

>>18836525
I can use google.
>before jouyou-fication
What do you mean by this? Were it unsimplified form it should still appear in old books but I had never seen this kanji before.

What does スキにヘイ mean here?

>>18836607
好きに兵　maybe

>>18836633
Huh, what would be a good translation for 好きに then? Is it an adverb basically meaning "in a very likeable manner"?

its 塀 my ninja..

>>18836668
as you like

>>18836525
And a chinese dictionary says that's it's rather a variant form of 閑 than 間. Anyway, it's definitely not unsimplified form.

Reminder that you have to set your new cards to however many words you mined the day before.

reminder flashcards are 時間の無駄 and エピックゲイ

>>18836733
Sub 90 retention shitter spotted.

i never did a flashcard in my life but ill still help you guys with big bad kana when you need it sometimes : )

>>18836607
>>18836633
>>18836668

Maybe she's saying something like "When it comes to liking fighting, you all surpass soldiers", in which case 戦ってるスキ would be something like "liking fighting", and 戦ってるスキに would be something like "when it comes to liking fighting".

Don't give advice when you're a beginner yourself. Jamal also already gave you the answer, it's 隙に塀

>>18836607
>>18836633
>>18836668
>>18836699
>>18836858
隙, not 好き.

>米国
Why?

>>18836920
Japanese humour. 独国 isn't bad either

>>18832528
Kana Mind
Tae Kim

>>18836987
the iphone tae kim app doesn't work anymore

>>18836988
Alright, well at least Kana Mind is still a solid app. Should be shilled here more often.

>>18836996
no because djt kana exists

>>18836920
Because they used to write it 亜米利加, and 亜 was already in use for Asia

>>18836930
and that comes from 独逸, and like 亜米利加 has nothing to do with the meaning of the individual Kanji

I want to try playing the Pokemon games in Japanese but there are no ROMs in the CoR and I don't feel confident just picking some random site off Google in case it has viruses.

Can anyone point me to a safe place to download them from?

roms arent gonna steal your hentai dont worry

>>18837386
https://www.emuparadise.me
They had to delete some first party nintendo roms, though, so not all of them might be there. The ones I tried were available.

>>18837386
Common sense 2018. Alternatively,
>>>/vg/emugen

minna genki? lol

>>18837476
元気です

>>18837412
>>18837429
Thanks.

>>18837386
If I ever played a Pokemon game in Japanese it would be one of the more recent ones that come with a kanji option. Playing a game that's all kana sounds like a nightmare for a non-native.