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>New? Start here:
http://pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Previous Thread
>>18756324

Current Version: Elona+ 1.76fix (3/2/2018)
Latest Custom: E+C 1.76fix.1

Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7.

>> No.18777435
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Reposting

>> No.18777487

>>18777435
Ammo is bad. Use it until you find good NON-MIRACLE/GODLY ammo with burst, piercing and timestop, then use garrock's hammer on it.

Weapon is kind of ruined but you can use it for a while until you get new living weapon. For pure damage, preferred magic or lightning(if you dont mind shooting water bolt first to make target wet) element.

>> No.18777499
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Got myself a cat, because my profile says I like small animals. Currently making money by shaking my titties at parties(god bless sexy dance feat) and draining money off merchants whenever I buy myself something nice

My charisma potential went into the gutter faster than my dignity, should I start breeding putits?

>> No.18777500

>>18777487
OK, fair enough. Its mostly a weapon I planned to give (and have done so) to my platinum bell, so its a shame I bummed it so much. I'll wait until I find a better ammo then. (Can my pets use special ammo, or is that pointless? I'm mostly a melee character).

But thanks.

>> No.18777503

>>18777431
Thanks for the laugh again, OP anon. Much appreciated.

Where did you get those character images? I like the style.

>> No.18777518

>>18777499
thicc

>> No.18777521

I wish I were intelligent enough to give my character a custom sprite.

>> No.18777523

>>18777499
How did you lose charisma by fucking around? It should train cha instead.
>>18777500
You can use special ammo for pets using command flag menu.
If you are melee just use ranged slot for stat stick (+crit rate, vorpal or some other special effect boost) and add garrock hammer random ammo for extra crits. you dont need ranged attacks after you learn shadow step. in worst case, use living chain sickle/whip in ranged slot as a status stick, it'll allow ranged attack - useful for shining hedgehogs at least(but you can use gravity sphere/shining wave as well)

>> No.18777533

>>18777523
Neat, glad that Special Ammo can work then. Thanks mate. I'll find a good ranged weapon with stuff to help out my melee character then (I'd love to find something with magic and nerve resist. I die in one shot to either of those)

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>>18777518
thiccer

>> No.18777568

Where do I find a new Nine God Sign?

>> No.18777588

>>18777523
They said their potential went down. Leveling a skill makes it lose potential

>> No.18777618
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>>18777503
Here you go, happy to do it

>> No.18777671

Do I have any use for two bell pets, or what should I do with a second Platina Bell? I got it from a Scroll of Ally. Is it worth it to keep around, or...?

>> No.18777708
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I-it's not my fault, right?

>> No.18777711
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what is proximity attack weapon, and is it useful?

>> No.18777738

>>18777711
Useful PV debuff+extra damage for melee.
>>18777588
Oh sorry I misread potential part.
>>18777568
You can find it on the floor of dungeons(puppy cave too) and when convert to new god, on altar. Blue curcle.

>> No.18777744

>>18777738
Neat, thanks. I switched from Opatos to Jure via the "free of consequence" festival thing, but never got a new one.

>> No.18777856

>>18777521
If you're intelligent enough to use a computer to post on an imageboard you're intelligent enough to accomplish that. We're talking clicking and dragging a picture between folders here. There are step-by-step instructions and ready to use files in the pastebins. They were even posted last thread. Here:

Chinese pack https://mega.nz/#!BEsjWKiJ!iE_Sl1cjtRQqlc9A1QdVkWyyZY4IyW4E6XoHmF9q2Ss
Tieba pack
https://mega.nz/#!VZ8iFSaY!DjstkAW7zMDj8RP1L1lhJV2jMRTfHS20WWyUr7LMRuI

The above are folders full of resources to pick things from you like.

Instructions
https://pastebin.com/edit/uAVqeTbz

If you can't even do this I will violate your rectum and absorb your life essence because you'd just be a waste of space otherwise

>> No.18777877

I am relatively committed to claymoring my way through the rest of the game with a living claymore. How can I manage the possible enhancements you can get from levelling to bring out the best in it?

>> No.18777884

>>18777877
I maximized vorpal and criticals, ignored elemental damage

>> No.18777940

>>18777877
main weapon - magic/lightning damage
ranged slot stat stick - vorpal/crits, vorpal better.

>> No.18777973

>>18777856
that's pretty complicated dude

>> No.18778011

>>18777884
>>18777940
Is there any data regarding vorpal/equipment bonuses in general stacking? I'd like to know if there's a cap.

I think I'm probably going to try to figure out how to make the most out of it as a mainhand weapon and make a ranged hand stat stick out of some dagger or something, but it seems like that there aren't too many things a mainhand weapon can do exclusively, save for apply elemental damage modifiers.

I dunno. I mean I really do like slicing things in half, but it feels a little more pointless if it's not the steel doing the cleaving but some foofy magic.

>> No.18778021

>>18778011
All elemental and magic damage comes after the physical damage from the swing. The reason why it's good is because it's damage tacked on at the end to inflate damage.

>> No.18778032

>>18778011
I've posted some data on vorpal a few threads ago. in short, you need 5000 vorpal ench to get 100% vorpal, 1000 gives 20% vorpal and so on.
Vorpal has the strongest PV debuff so its very useful for 100% pierce weapons to get complete penetration with debuff.
Doesnt stack with Claymore's bonus. Its better to have both vorpal and crit.

Data on crits is in previous thread, ctrl+f warosu

Magic damage is just a bonus on top, you still cleave stuff.

>> No.18778178

>>18778032
>5000 vorpal
Never bothered turning on that enchantment strength tweak. 100% vorpal is much harder to achieve than I would have though.

I think at the very least then I'm surely going to make a spear to level for the extra bit of piercing. Not sure about the claymore because this one ended up with Ice Bolt invoke and I wanted to use that spell in an interesting way, somehow. Probably going to throw on a lot of absolute piercing though.

At one point or another I'm probably going to have to trade up, but I'd like to enjoy the time together with this sword and have it enjoy retirement afterwards in a room with my first claymore Child Harvest(er?)

>> No.18778258

>>18778011
>I mean I really do like slicing things in half, but it feels a little more pointless if it's not the steel doing the cleaving but some foofy magic.
Well, magic is the only element with zero "flavor" on kill (no animations, and you just get basic "[target] is killed" messages instead of something like "[target] loses its mind and commits suicide"). It is a bit boring, though.

>> No.18778265

>>18778258
Best flavor would be decapitation either way.

>> No.18778278

made it to south tyris and bought the mansion and immediately i have no idea what to do
did you guys move all your buildings into south tyrus or did you keep your property where it was?
how hard is the act 2 main quest compared to act 1?

>> No.18778290

>>18778278
North is still my home. Mainly due to several static locations and the void. For now, get statue of kumiromi and discarded ranch. Act2 is much harder.

>> No.18778295

>>18778265
Cut damage's active flavor text is cool too and isn't a magical gimmick. I wonder if I can turn elemental damage into cut damage with Elosnack.

>> No.18778298

>>18778290
floor 1 of the act 2 main dungeon is about equivelant to what floor of lesimas would you say?

>> No.18778391

It's becoming night. Do you know where your little girl is or are you an irresponsible parent or older brother?

>> No.18778414

>>18778391
either dead or fused with something else

>> No.18778434
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>>18778391
I sure do. She's been running our food shop and is about to head to bed.

>> No.18778457

>>18778391
She's at my side where she belongs. On a leash, of course.

>> No.18778461

does anyone have a good set of tiles for characters and terrain? some of the dungeons are starting to become an eyesore

>> No.18778465

>>18778461
disregard this i am a blind man

>> No.18778748
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>>18777431
>fuck 10 generations of my family
There is already a madman set to accomplish this goal.

>> No.18778754

>>18778391
Yes, she is taking care of my weapon shop, safe with all the guns around her.

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>>18778295
It works, at least. And I guess the bleeding level have nothing to do with the attribute's power.

>> No.18779352

>>18778748
sawagoe tomaru is my spirit animal

>> No.18780922

Anyway to farm up love potions? Trying to grab Gwen the innocent, and she can't be dominated. So I gotta grab an astral pen and a bunch of love potions before act 2. is there an easier way?

>> No.18780943

>>18780922
Gift. Go to each town's general store, invest 100. Run around and buy gifts when they are available.
You could raise it to <friend> and then buy homemade chocolate kit from general store on February.

Keep gifting until her pussy is soaking wet.

>> No.18781065

What does your pet's luck do?

>> No.18781131

>>18781065
Probably only influences tohit chance.

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I'm dead meat, fellas. See me in the obituaries.

>> No.18781509

>>18781467
Goodnight, sweet prince.

>> No.18781603

Is riding while using gravity accel a bad idea?
I've noticed my speed drops when I use it while riding.

>> No.18781711

>>18781603
Train mount's strength/your riding skill

>> No.18781730
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>>18777431
Musicfag here. Here's the "finished version"
Finished as in I won't add any more instruments. All I need to do now is balancing the whole thing, but that I can't do for now because I play by ear. Wisdom teeth are currenly blocking my ear and my hearing is not working properly, which also affects my balance among other things holy fucking shit this is a special kind of hell
https://picosong.com/we6Gs/

>> No.18781750

>>18781730

Scut. Scut.

>> No.18781774

>>18781730
link is broken?

>> No.18781779
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>>18781730
Accident. That was still the old version. Fuck.

I'll work on balancing the sounds and making them sound properly as soon as I can. There may be some chords by the end which don't sound right. I hope I can get my ears back in a few months
https://picosong.com/we6pE/

Anyway, it WILL sound better. Next post I'll also change the plugins a bit to better quality.

>> No.18781903

>>18781779
Nice nice! Good job here, Its amusing to hear it in comparison to the original .mid. Love the choice for pianot. Overall, very lovely.
New background reminds me of SNES somehow, probably choir part is the reason

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Fun fact: pets that are brainwashed in the pet arena will remain hostile afterwards.

>> No.18782363

So wait,the same hobo with ragnarok also appears on the penultimate floor on cradle of chaos?

>> No.18782366

>>18781779
Golden knight is my wife

>> No.18782371

I can't find a cub for the life of me

>> No.18782408

>>18782363
I haven't reached that point yet, but I do know the hero of Elona's story is Bethel/Vessel, the orphan turned soldier that becomes an alcoholic drug-addict after his elf adopted sister Elishe is killed, but redeems himself and keeps Larnneire's ass alive. Fun fact: you'd think Elishe would be his lover, but apparently he really thought of her as family and prefers older women (Liana). Loyter was his rival and has a grudge against him for getting all the ladies

>> No.18782456

>>18782366
Is there ANY better combo than Golden Knight and Defender? ANY?

>> No.18782464

>>18782456
Yes,lots of alcohol to sleep with heavy cuddling

and karata

>> No.18782468

>>18782464
Disgusting.

On another note, should I be using my Happy Bed or my Jure bodypillow?

>> No.18782484

>>18782468
Yes

can you lose fairy magic resistance permanently somehow?

>> No.18782487

>>18782484
maybe

>> No.18782489

>>18782456
Nothing better than raising your dragon child.

>>18782468
Happy Bed. Bodypillow is good for training faith early.

>> No.18782491

>>18782456
I got a male defender and black angel tagged together. I like to imagine the defender is stoic tsundere being teased by the angel every day until one day he finally caves and slams that ass harder than Buildup Opatos using TyousindouKen

>> No.18782494

>>18782489
OK, thanks. I'll just use the body pillow if I'm in the middle of a field or something.

>>18782491
That's pretty lewd.

>> No.18782522

Why are potions of evolution so cheap in shops? I'm buying them for 6-7k a pop. Should I save up, say, around 10 or so, and then quaff them all at once?

>> No.18782546

>>18782522

Yeah sure. No one's stopping you. Do yourself better and bless them first. Also, make sure you don't have mutation resist attribute on you.

>> No.18782552

>>18782546
Roger, thanks. I was shocked they were so cheap.

>> No.18782564

>>18782491
*lulwy seething intensifies*

>> No.18782645
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18782645

Guys I may or may not be completely retarded, but can you help me with herb farming? As far as I can gather, I need to grind Harvesting quests to get herb seeds. Is there any other way to get the seeds other than this and\or converting to Kumiromi?
Wiki says that selling cooked food is quite profitable, how high do I need to train cooking skill before I can start making serious money with it?
How much do I need to invest into a shop before it starts selling potions of potential?

>> No.18782653

>>18782645
Food sells at any price, and you're training cooking by making it. Just make it and sell it in a shop you set up, make sure to get a good shopkeeper.

I saw a potion of potential at 76 or 80, and I find 'em semi-reliably at around 120. Also, besides random drops, that's the only way to get seeds as far as I know.

>> No.18782666

>>18782645
kumiromi statue from act 2 are duplicated with little sister quest and used to generate massive amounts of herb seeds
You can also cheat and reset the god altar ground with shift-backspace to reset the 4 herb seeds from there
another way would be dropping all your seeds into your shop, they may get traded for herb seeds occasionally

>> No.18782670

>>18782645

You'll see it one or twice, even more on every 5 resets at 100 rank.

I used to rely on my 6 majick seller for it until I realised I can craft it with alchemy. So I crafted 120 and blessed them. Doubling stats now.

>> No.18782678

>>18782645
Seeds - Get kumiromi statue asap and duplicate it with bioshock quest. Or get several cute fairies as pets.
-Profitable cooking food - you need barbeque set and stuff for this. Vegetables are not very profitable unless its muskmelon even when cooked, better cook monster meat and high tier fish. You can make living weapon that boosts cooking by 150lv. Still its better to cook anything as long as you have spare SP, strip-mine forest dungeon and keep cooking it for training, for example.
-Potential - shops start selling after single x50 investment, at 100+ it appears quite often.

>> No.18782680

After many, many floors of the Puppy Dungeon, my dreams of finding wells and/or altars are diminishing.

>> No.18782690

>>18782680
i dont think they spawn on puppy cave

>> No.18782695

>>18782690
Really? That'd be a damn shame, but I'm certain I've seen at least one of them before. I just want to find un-claimed altars to donate my 40s+ corpses on...

>> No.18782699

>>18782690
>>18782695
Aha! Found a well!

>> No.18782700

>>18782645
wish for a barbeque set (or steal one at party time) for better cooking

>> No.18782702

>>18782653
>>18782666
>>18782670
Oh well, I have a long way to go, evidently.
Other porblem that I have is gathering materials. I trained all relevant skills a bit, but still can't gather shit. Can't reliably make scrolls of inferior material because the crafting material just doesn't drop. Is this just my luck or did I overlook something?

>> No.18782707

>>18782695
Go do random dungeons and get nice loot instead of wasting time on puppy cave

>> No.18782710

>>18782702
When Nefia enters "Fever", dungeons spawn a LOT more resource spots. Just make sure you know mining, fishing and detection skills, and go crazy. Really helps if you have a Statue of Opatos.

>>18782707
I haven't gotten anything decent from any dungeon except death. Those level 60s are pointless!

>> No.18782730

The wiki tells me nothing, but should I bless seeds before planting them?

>> No.18782751

>>18782710
>When Nefia enters "Fever"
Oh damn, I completely forgot about this. Thanks for reminder.

>> No.18782757

>>18782751
Its helped me a whole lot!

>> No.18782861

>>18782700
>steal one
How do I do that? Because
>It's not your property
After all.

>> No.18782871

>>18782861
Nevermind, I forgot about pickpocketing.

>> No.18782887

is there some sort of downside to the Shield Tonfa? It looks incredibly strong for a tank character. Right now my Defender is using the Holy Lance and a tower shield, but all that shield does is give +19PV. Should I buy the shield tonfa and give it to him? I have about 65 medals

>> No.18782905

>>18782887

It occupies a slot.
That's it. Go get it.

>> No.18782912

>>18782887
It costs valuable medals. Void license>sage's helm>stuff

>> No.18782928

>>18782905
>>18782912
OK. That makes sense. It seems like a great investment, though. I'll get it after I get the Void License then. Thanks.

>> No.18782952

Are martial arts viable in Elona? It's been like a year since I last played and I figure if I start all over now I should try something different.

>> No.18782962

>>18782952
oh, most definitely

>> No.18782976
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What are the best ways to get magic or nerve resistance? The only gear I've found with anything decent is just (##), and usually inferior. I get one shot by magic spells. I have three gear shops at 110+ and a black market at 120+ and I routinely check them, to no avail. What am I doing wrong?

>> No.18782991

>>18782976
Eat eyes.

>> No.18783001

>>18782991
Is that a permanent boost? I thought it was temporary. Guess I'll find me some floating eyes to breed, then, thanks.

>> No.18783013

>>18782976
emerald material gives nerve resist
>>18783001
Its semi-temporary until you get bullshit dream that removes all resists from character.

>> No.18783021

>>18783013
Well, that's not optimal, then. I need a static protection, because even if I stack, say, two pieces of ## gear for nerve or magic, I'm still being one shot. I'm a warrior class, and physical attacks bounce off me like water, so every death I've had is due to magic.

>> No.18783029

>>18783021
Just look for better equipment. Anyway it stacks so every little bit helps. Drink pots of resist when in trouble.

>> No.18783035

>>18783029
I try, but are there pieces that give more than ##? Every piece that I've found to give a small bit of protection is just inferior to what I'm currently using. I.E I could switch out my Crimson Plate for a shitty belt that gives Magic Resist, but what's the point?

>> No.18783055

how do I consistently maintain potential without the potions of potential?

>> No.18783058

>>18783035
you can get #####+ on item, and you clearly go in areas above your hp pool.

>> No.18783065

>>18783058
OK, thanks. I guess I'll just keep rotating between the black markets.

>> No.18783077

>>18783055
Herbs

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>> No.18783317

Why do I random get ether corruption ailments? I never go out in the etherwind, and I have a vindale cloak anyways.

>> No.18783327

>>18783317
Wiki ether disease.
It always progresses.

>> No.18783345

>>18783327
fuck this fucking gay ass game

>> No.18783354

>>18783317
>>18783345

It's those fucking Eleans. This is why we need to kill each and every single one of them. This is why you need to murder Lomias's smug ass every time you see him. Damn fucks keep spraying magical cancer to us.

>> No.18783358

>>18783354
burn their forests
third nuke when

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>Tight
>surprised sex

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What the hell drops the secret experience of kumiromi? was plowing through the pass and found one.

>> No.18783561

>>18782887
Tonfas don't get the shield bonus

>> No.18783567

>>18783561
Oh, really? Maybe I won't get it then, thanks...Would it be useful to put in my ranged slot though? I mean, for the protection bonuses.

>> No.18783585

So what feats are recommended to rush early if trying to build a magic character?

>> No.18783654

>>18783552
Fairy
For some reason i've killed literally hundreds of them and no expierence drops, yet first panic quest with fairies got me 3x expierence of kumiromi
>>18783567
Yeah ranged slot works.

>>18783585
Magic capacity, memorization, control magic, alchemy
Magic capacity is very easy to train, alchemy for resolution hand special action and dupli-cane.
control magic paired with dupli-cane for training mag stat

>> No.18783687

So is it possible to use 2 museums, one for common figurines and other for uniques?

>> No.18783690

>>18783654
Fair enough then, cool. I'll get it to have in my ranged slot for now.

>> No.18783720

How do I get to this mansion of the younger sister? I've never seen a "Strange Diary".

>> No.18783759

>>18783687

Sure. You'll only get wage from one though. The other one will be wholly decoration.

>> No.18783761

>>18783720
Just walk to the right place and press enter. It doesn't have an icon on the map.

>> No.18783772

>>18783761
Oh. I thought I had to read about it. Well, thanks.

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Leveling Performer may be my least favorite thing in this game. I just play in my putit ranch, but its still abysmally slow and terribly boring. Once I hit 30, I can use that ensemble action and start getting east music tickets, right? I need a whole lotta them for a whole lotta cool stuff.

>> No.18784033

>>18784017
Right. Yet its still less effectve than simple fascinating dance. You only need perform for roleplay or if you want public's drops as a bonus reward. Personally i found preaching more useful until very late, since it trains faith.

>> No.18784041

>>18784033
Oh, I suppose I could do preaching. I'm pretty preachy.

>> No.18784211

>>18783654
Was asking about the feats you can pick at start and every few levels, but thanks still for the skill info.

>> No.18784282

>>18784211
Ah i'm blind. Better get drain blood to survive moments when you are out of MP, other than anything will do. Dont forget to take touch feat some time to get resolution hand buff later.

>> No.18784759

>>18784282
Touch Feet?

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>> No.18784808

>>18784761
It's quite a popular gift in Tyris.

>> No.18784826

Checked a bit grenade vs shuriken on all-2k char vs lv7k boss.
Suprisingly, they deal roughly the same damage @ melee range. However invokes are not triggered by struck out. Not sure whats better, after all.
Gotta check if i can convert both to throwing stone first.

>>18784759
? sleep/poison touch.

>>18784761
good ol' birthday shit.

>> No.18784843

>>18784826
oh ok. why are sleep or poison touch useful?

>> No.18784874

>>18784843
> take touch feat
>to get resolution hand buff later.
Resolution hand buffs base MAG by 20%, increasing damage of spells.

>> No.18784886

>>18784874
Oh, that's nice. If you're a mage I guess.

>> No.18785992

>ywn have your pets fight between themselves to decide who sleeps with you,eat your cooked meals or get the best equipment

damn

>> No.18786232

Which do you prefer for your probability distribution of attack rolls? Linear, Peaked, Or Bell Curve?

>> No.18786265

>>18786232
>Bell Curve
Regardless of what we want, elona gives only linear for spacts and bell curve when its not linear

>> No.18786272

>>18786265
I think he's talking about distribution, not scaling.

>> No.18786297

>>18786272
I'm talking about distribution as well, its always either flat damage or simple rng between min and max value, there is no such thing as 1% chance for 100x base damage on crit, for example.(a pity, those are fun)

>> No.18786358

>>18786297
So when I roll 3d6 I wont have the chance to do 18 damage?

>> No.18786400

>>18786297
Crits are always max rolls though, no? On top of the crit bonus.

>> No.18786451

>>18786358
You almost never get 3d6, it would be 3d6+10 or something, and iirc game had some weird part where it randomizes only a part of the resulting roll for actual damage value.

>>18786400
I meant there is no such thing as randomized damage multiplier with non-linear scaling.you cannot get a lucky 10x crit.

>> No.18786461

>>18786451
I'll take consistent crits over crit crits or other such horseshit.

>> No.18786507

>>18786461
I like when luck has special effects

>> No.18786529

>>18786507
CRITICAL INVESTMENT! +100% boost.

>> No.18786605

>>18786451
Maybe my terminology is off.

So if I have a shortbow that has a 3d6+4 damage roll, when the game calculates the roll, it is not 3 random numbers added up plus 4? Instead, that calculation is completely different ?

This is not including the defence rolls.

>> No.18786640

>>18786605
Weapons do roll, so for that shortbow you would get some damage from 7 to 22, biased towards the middle. (Ignoring changes from skill, enemy defense, etc.)
As a notable exception, ammo always provides a boost to damage of its average even though it has dice listed. So a 3d3+1 bullet always adds 3 damage.

>> No.18786693

>>18786605
It calculates damage with this 3d6+4 and then adds some additional variety iirc. Dont want to check the source, it may be only a defensive roll as well.
In any case, you get simple dice result which is multiplied by modifiers, then divided by % defense and if its physical attack, the defensive roll substracts some value from the remaining. Technically when you can overwhelm enemy's protection roll only in few cases then you'll get that peaked distribution as well, i think? It works like that vs metal enemies.

>> No.18786699

>>18786693
What is this, a math lesson? Fuck off and make that simpler.

>> No.18786711

>>18786699
Get bigger stick. Double you strength.

>> No.18786724

>>18786711
unga bunga
me thank you

>> No.18787471

How do I go about giving my fallen angel the negotiation skill?

>> No.18788025

>>18777431
Where did you get that demon girl holding the axe?

>> No.18788281

Is it just me or is getting wishes from fountains almost impossible now. I usually have 1-3 in the first 20 hours of the game, but i have yet to run into a wish.

>> No.18788292

What's the point of having a dungeon? for only 20K i can buy two storage houses and they can hold more items than a dungeon which costs 500K.

>> No.18788308

>>18788025
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=25851

>> No.18788353
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>tfw you'll never get to enjoy Shena's mighty fine arse.
Why live, anon?

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>>18788308
Thank you very very

>> No.18788894

Why do I find the idea of a Hand of the God (a literal hand coming out of the ground) doing a continuous attack so goddamn funny?

Does it just punch you in the gut super duper fast or something?

>> No.18789018

Would a living weapon with element scar #### be better off using lighting or magic as its attacking element?

>> No.18789182

>>18789018
lightning
dupli-cane with water boll rod to wetten the target when necessary
evolved dragon child/fox brother will apply this debuff on all enemies, though.

>> No.18789305

>>18788894
It punches you in the balls repeatedly

>> No.18789516

Why do people told me not to add hands to my dragon child?

>> No.18789532

>>18788292
But with a dungeon you can create your own sex dungeon, fill it with performaids, deformed angels and other exotic sluts, export the map and let other people download it so they can appreciate your fine tastes in demonic beauty and interior decoration.

>> No.18789682

>>18788292
Dungeon is huge. Even as a storage, you can place all artifacts as one item per tile in it. I guess initially it was made for showroom projects.

>> No.18789724

I have been playing this game for a while, but I feel like it is lacking an online aspect to it. I saw that there were some online things before, but the server went down? If the guy is still working on the game, why don't he just put up a patreon to pay for servers?

>> No.18789739

>>18789724
Its been 6 or 8 years since Noa abandoned the game. Server code/executables were not shared to community. There was some gimped fan-made one but it died quite fast.

>> No.18789749

>>18789739
>Its been 6 or 8 years since Noa abandoned the game.
Who updates the game then? The community?

>> No.18789768

>>18789749
After abandoning the game, Noa gave away source code by request, it spawned several dozens of mods.
Biggest one, Elona Plus 'expansion' is made by Ano, there are also several other finished mods made by community, but they are not very popular outside of japan and only Omake mod is the one properly translated.

>> No.18789989

Hey, can someone post some good archer AI-s?

>> No.18789994
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Oh no, how terrible.

>> No.18790003

>>18789989
distance > 5 move forward
=1 move away(optional)
<=5 attack(ranged)
>1 move forward

thats it for the basic ranged routine.

>> No.18790237

How do I curse my flying scroll? Or how do I curse water?

>> No.18790252

>>18790237
Scroll of curse.

>> No.18790282

>>18790252
>tfw dropped every item and used the scrolls of curse
>7 of them didn't curse it

Is it due to exorcist? (not that guy but same thing)

>> No.18790290

>>18790282
Yes. You need a lot of scrolls with exorcist feat. I think blessing scroll of curse increases the chance of it working.

>> No.18790292

>>18790290
Gotcha, thanks. Crumbs.

>> No.18790304
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18790304

I'm only rank 46, (Average Museum). Should I just fill every tile with cards and figurines? I need a better place!

>> No.18790316

>>18790304
You can dig out the walls for more room, or use a house board to do so.

>> No.18790322

>>18790316
Is it OK if I remove the boundary walls then? I left them there because I just didn't know. But, thanks, yeah. I was just hoping I could make the museum look *nice* while also retaining a high~ish level...

>> No.18790333

>>18790304
To have high rank while using your space well you want one of each unique NPC's figure and card. Higher level ones give more rank. They're worth many times more than those of common monsters but any duplicates are worth barely anything

>> No.18790339

>>18790322
Yeah, you can remove all the walls if you like, it doesn't matter.
>make the museum look *nice*
Again, house board. Use it like you would in a house to decorate as you please.

>> No.18790351

>>18790333
>>18790339
I have a house board, yeah, its in the image. I'll just focus on getting a bunch of high-level cards and stuff, then, thanks. I was hoping to fill out a museum with every creature. Oh well.

Now to find a card deck so I can fill that up!

>> No.18790370

Is there a way to re-roll attributes for a living weapon without enchanting it? my weapon is only level 4 but i've already enchanted it 8 times, and from what i've read the max is 15.

>> No.18790380

Wrote a paste with simple custom ai samples, Not sure if all of them work properly, though.
.
https://pastebin.com/Nipukkpa

>> No.18790382

Guys post your advanced custom AIs, if you don't mind, I am curios to see what you can achieve with it. And I wanna learn.

>> No.18790383

>>18790380
How confusing!

>> No.18790389

>>18790370
Wait a month, use cursed poiton of acidproof/tank a slime/ant to reduce ench. level.

>> No.18790404

>>18790389
I should've thought of that, thanks.

>> No.18790429

Do Card Decks (the empty ones to put them in, not the packs you get) spawn in general stores? I've been going back and forth looking for one for 20+ minutes now to no avail.

>> No.18790438

>>18790429
Buy from Furniture vendor at embassy.

>>18790382
Mine are just simple set of buffs>brainwash safety>basic attack routine. Buffs take too many slots to allow anything fancy.

>> No.18790440

>>18790438
Oh. Furniture embassy? I didn't even think of that. Thanks!

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>>18790382

Reposting Kill switch routine.
1-3 buff/failsafes (Double so I can put other stuff later)
4-6 KO routine for capture
7-8 terminate
9-11 move in
12-13 terminate from distance
14-15 move away for another target

Fury is used as the switch. If the mobs are unfavourable, I'll just use provoke so my pets will slaughter them. I'm pretty sure I can optimise this routine even more to squeeze in something else in there.

>> No.18790488

>>18790475
Why are lines 2 and 3 the same?

>> No.18790490

>>18790488

>(Double so I can put other stuff later)

>> No.18790499

>>18790490
I still dont see the point. Why not just leave it blank?

>> No.18790507

>>18790499

I tried doing that before and the pet complained it doesn't know what to do.

>> No.18790508

>>18790499
so you wont need to make all over again I think. You will have to move everything 1 position forward if you would want to add something there.

>> No.18790519

>Training Performer to get Music Tickets to buy Card Packs to get free stuff from the Witch

This is awful. I have a farm of putits and its still excruciatingly slow. This skill is awful. Horrible. Terrible. I'm dumping plat into it like no tomorrow, too.

>> No.18790533

>>18790519

If you want CHR that bad, stop shaking your arse and start making money. Then invest 50 with putitoro and superb potential.

>> No.18790539

>>18790533
My charisma is fine! I just want music tickets for cards for my card pack! I'm rolling in dough due to my shop.

What's a putitoro though?

>> No.18790540

>>18790533
>>18790539
Oh, its the item that boosts CHA. Gotcha.

>> No.18790558

>>18790539

Why?
Just beat mobs and go about your adventures normally. You'll get your cards and not be pressured by it.

>> No.18790567

>>18790558
That's less interesting though! Plus, the cards don't drop very often. I might get one per dungeon, if I'm lucky. Performer also sounds fun, I like being a jack-of-all-trades. I ALSO need music tickets to buy cool items from the salesman-dude, as well, so y'know, two birds with a 1d12 stone.

>> No.18790576

>>18790533
Not him but does your CHA stat even actually affect Performances?

>> No.18790582

>>18790576
No. Only affects dance.

>> No.18790590

How many blessed potions of evolution should I have to get all the positive ones? How do I prevent myself from losing them, too?

>> No.18790603

>>18790590
Around a dozen of blessed ones? Check wiki for exact number, count positive ones. Use equips that prevent mutation, like fairy hat. It does prevent positive mutations as well, unequip before quaffing evo pots.

>> No.18790606

>>18790603
Gotcha. OK, thanks. I'll find myself a fairy hat. I think I'm at 8 or 9 from magic shops (For the potions).

>> No.18790609

>>18790590
There are 25 positive mutations, not counting the cannibalism one, so depends on how many you currently have. The amount you get from a potion is random, too, so it's down to luck.

>> No.18790614

>>18790609
Bugger. So, yeah, 12-13 minimum, then. Fair enough.

>> No.18790624

>>18790614
Just bless your 9 and drink them, it's probably enough. You'll get random bad mutations even with hat later, so you need to drink evo pots occasionally.

>> No.18790628

>>18790624
Oh. Do the evolutions overwrite bad mutations? If so, that'd be great. I was resetting myself to blank every time.

>> No.18790631

>>18790614
Starting from no mutations, maximum actually. You get at least 2 mutations per potion.

>> No.18790640

>>18790628
Yes.

>> No.18790643

>>18790631
Oh, maximum. Right. They. 2-4 per blessed, I'm an idiot. That'll help a lot, though.

>>18790640
That'll help even more! Cool.

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heh

>> No.18790975

Is there a way to find out how powerful a pets spells are? Specifically I'm interested in how strong my girls cure of jua is and how it grows.

>> No.18790990

>>18790975
pet's casting*6 for spellpower*spellpower boost from equipment
pet's will
formula on wiki

>> No.18791006

>>18790990
Thanks.

>> No.18791179

Is mining for 4 leaf clovers worth it?

>> No.18791185

Whats up with this cat house quest? There's some sort of creature in here that keeps summoning infinite cats and just runs away when I get close to it. Within two or three turns the entire area is full of cats and I have to spam ice ball or something to clear them out.

>> No.18791192

>>18791185
Unless they're attacking you, ignore them and just attack the boss.

>> No.18791203

>>18791192
He also summons lions that come between me and him and runs away at the speed of light through monsters and walls alike.

I mean, at the rate these things reproduce the entire town of Yowyn would be overtaken within a few minutes and the entire rest of the world within hours. This shit's crazy.

>> No.18791225

>>18791203
You're melee? Shadow step is your friend. You may also want to be faster for this quest.

>> No.18791234

>>18791179
Somewhat. Acorns are good for training cooking and golden ones are quite expensive. But eating 4-leaf clovers exhaust luck potential, so you need to return a few stray cats between clover feasts.

>> No.18791242

>>18791185
>>18791234
Can you actually dominate/capture stray cats in this quest?

>> No.18791263
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>>18791225
I'm a battlemage. If I focus on casting magic arrow on the boss I can get him down pretty low but then he just takes off at like 6+ tiles in one turn and meanwhile I've been completely surrounded by angry lions.

>> No.18791266

>>18791242

Yes. In fact, that's the easiest way to do it. Just cast dominate and save up resources.

>> No.18791273

>>18791266
Whoa, it'll make getting 2k luck so easy.

>> No.18791285

>>18791263
If you destroyed the walls then it shouldn't matter if she runs away.

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>>18791285
I've decided to just leave it be for now. On the bright side, it's a source of infinite cat food.

>> No.18791357

>>18791340
DON'T EAT CATS

>> No.18791376

>>18791340
Cats are a good source of purrotein

>> No.18791385
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>>18791357
But they're so delicious. The whole party loves it.

>> No.18791388

>>18791385
>Karma -5
Guilty pleasure.

>> No.18791450

>>18791385
Awful

>> No.18791828

>>18791340
Great, now you can open up your own chinese restaurant.

>> No.18791837

>>18791828
wow racism

>> No.18792266

By repeatedly drinking from fountains, I've obtained a wish.
How do I/can I cure etherwind disease with this?

>> No.18792297

>>18792266
Potion of cure corruption, but there are other easy ways to get one, like blackjack, so it'd be a bit of a waste of a wish.

>> No.18792300

>>18792266
You can but its a waste of wish. You need potion of cure corruption, you can get this from casino by playing black jack or from main quest.

>> No.18792309

>>18792297
>>18792300
Question 1: Where is the casino at
Question 2: What's a good wish to make then?
also impressive coordination only 7 seconds apart

>> No.18792339

>>18792309
Wish for seven league boots, best item IMO

>> No.18792343

>>18792309
Palmia by the west entrance. There are some other places but I can't remember right now.
Seven league boots if you don't already have some, or secret experience of kumiromi.
Or sex, I guess.

>> No.18792351

>>18792309
Casinos are in Derpy and Palmia

>> No.18792366

>>18792339
>>18792343
holy shit these boots are amazing
>>18792351
thanks

>> No.18792380

>>18792366
These boots were made for walkin'.

>> No.18792461
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That was kind of hard.

>> No.18792556
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>superb does not mean maxed potential
Oh.

>> No.18792597

I had gone bit afk farming shit on my guy in a walled off corner in Palmia, a rather stupid mistake.
My entire Palmia was covered entirely in aliens pregnant with aliens, everybody was fucking dead and aliens were dying by new aliens being born out of them and killing them to make more room.
I had to manually burn the entire city down to the ground with muscle wizardry because I have no spells yet and gorge my self on dye and acid afterwards.
Learn from my mistakes anons, don't stop paying attention, even while farming.

>> No.18792612

How the hell do I learn pickpocket if I can't disguise into the thieves guild? I don't have the skill. Do I wish for it?

>> No.18792621

>>18792612
Use a scroll of gain attribute and savescum until you get it.

>> No.18792623

>>18792621
I don't savescum, and I only have 2-3 of those scrolls. I guess I'll just pray to the RNG gods.

I have to bless them, right?

>> No.18792628

>>18792623
Blessing them will ensure you get a new skill rather than just leveling one you already have, so it's your best bet.

>> No.18792637

>>18792628
What happens if you've got all the skills but still read a blessed one? Same effect as non-blessed?

>> No.18792639

>>18792628
OK, thanks. Too bad if I don't get it from them I'm pretty much boned. I've found 2 in a total of 50 or 60 hours.

>> No.18792664

>>18792612
Just use a disguise set/spell and burn all your teleport scrolls/rods/stock until you are one step away from the trainer and many steps away from the guild master.
Or pick thief as your starting class next time.

>> No.18792700

>>18792664
But when I went in, my pets just killed the trainer even under disguise. Is that what's supposed to happen?

>> No.18792726

>>18792700
use disguise after entering the floor, not before

>> No.18792729
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18792729

>>18790519
Since you're working on charisma and it seems you really just want tickets you might want to look into fascination dance. It's a much better way to get tickets than using performance.

>> No.18792764

>>18792729
That's ridiculous! Is that the "Sexy Dance" feat, you mean? I can get that.

>> No.18792809

>>18792764
It is. The effectiveness of it scales with your charisma score. Also the more named NPCs in your party time quests the higher your score potential. Can even get more tickets than the pic I put up eventually.

>> No.18792897

Does the holy well respawn when you burn it down?

>> No.18792899

>>18792729
Mr godslayer Kai, if you were to create a monster to bring as much grief to a player as possible what properties would it have?

>> No.18792927

>>18792809
Fair enough, that sounds really useful. Thanks.

>> No.18793074

>>18778748
You know what they say, incest makes the heart grow yandere

>> No.18793147

>>18792899
Karata Maneki has the unholy trinity of cResEle, cMetal, and Super Regen. Those three things create a creature that vastly reduces your damage no matter if you're a wizard or melee character. If the creature had millions of HP super regeneration could heal millions which could very well outheal the damage done to it after the bitflags do their work. So going forward those three defensive properties should be applied to create an extremely durable monster.

As for offensive properties summon monster could be powerful if it were used in the void or an awakened dungeon since monsters brought in scale to the dungeon level or floor. The brainwash ability should be used and abused. I want to turn the player's pets against their master or get the player to spend turns dealing with their pets. If no pets I want brainwash to start stripping the player of their armor to remove their resists and immunities. After that chaos/insanity attacks, meteor and status ailments can wreck havoc on a player. Ideally the boss monster would have minions that do nothing but brainwash and hex the player while the boss monster smashes the player. Silence, mist of frailness, nightmare/element scar, slow, and death song should ideally always be on the player.

Unless a monster is using a special action that allows for multi hits or some gauge attack, most have a limit of one attack. So that one attack should be amplified or at the very least made the most of. Rampage should be safe to use given the bitflags above and combined with the smash ground special action could be interesting if said monster has good attributes. I'm sure there are other particularly nasty combos out there. Shadow step used with Space Retention I think should keep the monster glued to the player. Lastly, the monster should have a special gauge attack. Something that bypasses PV, always hits, does a lot of damage, and can decap would be good I think.

>> No.18793317

>>18791828
lmao

>> No.18793365
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>>18792597

Couldn't go dimmer than I, anon. I occasionally die from starvation because I didn't move my eyeballs about an inch down. And no, the sound cue doesn't help since I am always on full-blast with bonerjams.

>> No.18793370

>>18793365
I know if I'm starving, because my Defender starts going overheal mode and spams spells.

>> No.18793391

Is this <Murder Knight> guy any good? Wiki doesn't tell me a whole lot, or I'm just dumb.

>> No.18793395

>>18793370

Yeah, maybe that's the spice. Time to teach my pet a healing skill.

>> No.18793407

>>18793395
It works pretty well, actually. Except for when he runs out of MP. As I'm not paying attention. Then, I die.

>> No.18793414

>>18793391
Should I give him The <Mournblade> in primary and <Ether Dagger> in secondary, or is he a two-handed guy? He seems pretty useful.

>> No.18793448

>>18793414
Doesn't murder knight have a claymore class?

>> No.18793451

>>18793448
I...think so? Should he use claymores, then, or is it just flavor text?

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>>18793448
>>18793391
This is his current gear I scrambled together.

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>>18793457
Also, entirely unrelated, but...

>> No.18793464

>>18793457
Did that setup actually works?

>> No.18793467

>>18793464
I mean, I don't know. How could I tell? He killed some level 34 mobs pretty easily. But he is level 60...

>> No.18793538

>>18793391
>>18793457
I don't think he's very great. His speed is abysmal, no special attacks and he just generally...doesn't do well. Darn shame, that.

>> No.18793575

>>18793391
>>18793414
He is a fairly decent pet. While you can even turn him into a mage if you want to, his starting attributes, skills, default AI and bitflag makes a "two-hander melee fighter" build his default fighting style.

>> No.18793576

New guy here, is there any feats thats not mentioned in the FAQ you guys would recommend picking up?
Also any tips also not mentioned that you guys have?

>> No.18793580

>>18793575
Fair enough, then. He just doesn't compare to any of my other pets, so I'm not sure what to do with him. I guess I could let someone eat him. But thanks.

>> No.18793673
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Which of these should I give to my Platina Bell? Or should I get something else entirely?

>> No.18793946

>>18793673
Careful your pet doesn't blow you up with the rail gun.

>> No.18794005

>>18793946
Yeah, I realized this now after he did some terrible things to us. I don't think I'm going to let him use that ever again.

>> No.18794022

>>18794005
Make sure you and all your pets have control magic, and TAKE IT LIKE A MAN. They'll stop hitting you eventually, and it's FREE control magic training for everyone.
Just remember to put him on defensive mode during escort quests.

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Goddamn, do I love continuous attacks. All of these hits with almost no combo falloff.
It does hit for a less damage per strike though.

>> No.18794481

>>18794022
Sorry, I was asleep

What level would he have to have in Control Magic to stop blasting me? My Fox Lad pet has pretty high control magic, but still AoE's the party all the time.

Good thinking

>> No.18794776

I caught a Cthugha. Is this it? Is this the moment I get a pet who would spam meteor until it dies?

>> No.18794813

>>18794776

And the answer is a resonating no. It doesn't have meteor. Fuck this shit, I can't tell the highest level monster to spam meteor. All is forfeit.

>> No.18794963
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18794963

How good is the android pet? I always wanted my own mecha-musume.

>> No.18795046

Formal introduction to Beast Master when? As an actual class it could give you an enhanced Cheer, 20 Max pets instead of 15, higher domination chance and maybe as a bonus in the early game, you could choose a higher tier of starter pet, for example instead of a Brown Bear you could get a Grizzly.

>> No.18795054
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>>18795046

When pets are nerfed to the ground to make potential room for such class.

>> No.18795100
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18795100

Haven't played in 2 Years. Can you guys give me a quick run down of what's added to Elona+ Custom? The last big update when I played was the AI gambit system.

>> No.18795253

>>18795046
I don't think we're going to get new classes any time soon, as cool as it would be. The two new classes in Elona+ (Gunner and Predator) were in the original as NPC-only classes.
There hasn't been a completely original class added to Elona+ yet and I don't think Ano has any plans to do so (yet). I'd personally like to see a custom class/race creation system, mainly for roleplaying purposes and min-maxing shenanigans.

>> No.18795260

Should a living weapon resist stick have a bunch of resistances or a bunch of magic resist?

>> No.18795369
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>>18795260

Depends on what is needed, honestly. But aiming for one resistance at a time will take you a hella long time before you can get superb. Spreading them out will only give you pitiful amount of resistance.

OR, you could give your four-armed pet four identical resisticks that it could train simultaneously; immediately giving superb resistance with each level up, and just rely on its latent skills for damage.

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18795539

>>18794963
Moderately good. They are good for big ranged parties, especially in group due to fire a volley. Their primary value comes for high base life for cArmor bit pets and their low ini, making them a solid base for anything.

>> No.18795665

>>18795539
Are they viable normally?

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18795703

Forgot to ALP Gwen yet again.

>>18795665
They are viable as a base to build upon, with AP or custom AI. Even if your party don't benefit from fire a volley, android is simply a considerably tanky pet that is very easy to level.

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18795888

>>18795539
>They're color coded like power rangers
>Even has red in front with a dragon
I like you

>> No.18795964

>>18795888
After imagining 5 same-kinds uniting in fire a volley attack I just couldnt resist making it a sentai team.

>> No.18796021

>>18795703

RIP.
Now you'll never have dear Gwen accost you wherever you go.

>> No.18796045
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18796045

>Check job board
>Entire screen full of birthday quests I happen to already have the items for with me
>The rest are easy ass hunting and challenge quests

>> No.18796140

>>18796045
I prefer escort quests with 100k rewards

>> No.18796162

>>18796140

I'd gladly do those quest if they tell you what kind of mob you are escorting, though. Kinda don't like it when I have to cast water ball every time we got ambushed.

>> No.18796174

>>18796140
Money ain't worth shit, my little shop girl brings in millions. I need PLAT

>> No.18796198

>>18796162
I usually rely on teleport other

>> No.18796224

>>18796198

>Teleport other Samurai.
>Samurai appears right next to the enemy.
>"BANZAAAI"
Fission Mailed.

>> No.18796262

>>18796224
Well, that haven't happened to me EVER, so I think I'm good.

>> No.18796383
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18796383

I am rapidly approaching the dreaded 200th floor of the void. Another loss character with 20kHP, stats around 500 and superb resists across the board got easily killed by the absolute monstrosities in there. She would have needed much higher stats and close to class 20 resists (ranks above superb, check w/ mirror ability). Once I reach 200 the void is off limits for a long time.

You see, starting from floor 201, enemy level in the void is not just [creature level+50], but [5 x creature level+50]. If something uses summon monster and happens to summon a high level creature, after having its level+50 multiplied by five it's like fighting an inner god i.e. you're dead meat. Everything before floor 200 is fair game though, highly recommend grinding there (watch out for bomb rocks).

>> No.18796396

>>18796383
Cant you escape the void and then start from F1? or you'll get teleported to lowest floor either way?

>> No.18796410

>>18796396
No you can, I do that as well to make it last me longer. But when using return, you'll start at the lowest floor and might delve deeper out of habit without thinking.

>> No.18796436

>>18796383
what about realying on ele shield spell?

>> No.18796501

>>18796436
Element shield is limited to fire/cold/lightning m8, won't help when Hziulquoigmnzhah, progeny of Cxaxukluth the Illimitable Desire reaches out with an unimaginably long limb and casts a mind bolt

>> No.18796504

>>18796501
In Plus it covers all elements aside from pure magic and cut.

>> No.18796514

>>18796504
My bad, that's good shit. Keeping every buff up is a good idea anyhow

>> No.18796596

>>18796383
I want to headpat her

>> No.18796670

>>18792729
why would anyone bother with performance then?

>> No.18796687
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18796687

I know this is old but do anyone here still/have played the Elin demo?

>> No.18796713

>>18796670
Preach trains faith, Dance gives tons of points and Perform gives items (and also far more money than the other two). They all can be useful depending on your current grindy plans.

>> No.18796717

>>18796670
Ensemble lets you punch above your level

>> No.18796808

>>18796717
same for dance+gem buff

>> No.18797307

ha-ha, funny, game. a dead lion. wow. i sure expected that to be a fucking nuclear bomb. wow-ee. amazing. hilarious.

>> No.18797327

>>18797307
It says a NUCLEAR dead lion. Ha ha bro you got 1 learning

>> No.18797331
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18797331

What the hell.
Should have never converted to that crazy posessive freak, cant even get away from him anymore.
halp

>>18797307
It properly says (NUCLEAR), you should have guessed that something is off.

>> No.18797343

>>18797331
Nevermind, forgot that i used all flying scrolls on altar to make a portable version. me be dumb.

>> No.18797353
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18797353

>>18797307
Didn't your mom tell you that you should always identify any funny-looking corpses before playing with them?

>> No.18797352

>>18797327
>>18797331
no, it just said DEAD LION. It wasn't identified. Also, it was edible for some reason.

>> No.18797365

>>18797353
no

>> No.18797378

>>18797343
>Me pray to earth goddess
>Me want to harvest her berries if you know what me saying
>Tribesmen tell me is boy with little penis

RUNGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.18797397

>>18797365
Time to get a better mom.

>> No.18797404

>>18797397
A true man would never replace or abandon his mother.

>> No.18797406

>>18797404
Get nuked.

>> No.18797412

>>18797406
already did

Your relation with (literally everyone) has dropped to <fuck you>

>> No.18797452

>>18796670
I like money, money I like.

>> No.18797496

>>18797331
how do you multiply those androids like that?

>> No.18797501

What do I do with <Isca> the fallen angel? Gene her into someone? Seems useless.

>> No.18797515

>>18797501
Give her wings so she can fly again

>> No.18797526

>>18797515
So, let my Defender consume her? Good plan.

>> No.18797528

>>18797496
There are several methods. I used doujou one - get android, leave it in doujou, convert to other god and then return to mani, loop until satisfied. You can also use ranch with fast-forwarding time using fetter of earth and heavy cargo and there was another methed but I forgot it.

>>18797501
She was good in vanilla since training pets was a real pain. Roleplay/vendor pet.

>> No.18797532

>>18797528
Ah, OK. Darn shame. Always neat to get one of those recruited pets. Too bad they've all sucked. Well, no, Wing Snail was useful...

>> No.18797533

>>18797501
What's with people using once-per-game uniques for gene engineering? It's like using a precious artifact for alchemy (not that that's possible).

According to recently translated card data, Isca was an angel who was so incredibly lazy she was kicked out of heaven. Which suited her fine because now she could be NEET for life away from all that angel do-gooder business. She's rather high level for how early you can get her and is a decent archer but unremarkable otherwise. Use her if you like her, let her laze around in the doujou if not

>> No.18797534

>>18797526
Leave her in the zoodiscarded ranch.

>> No.18797542

>>18797534
>>18797533
Nah. Why keep something around I'll never use? I never used Goda. I never used Murder Knight. There's no point. Hell, if I want to start an autist collection, I can just pass down my lineage onto a new character.

She gave my Defender a free level, so there was SOME use.

>> No.18797556

>>18797542
Cruel.

>> No.18797565

>>18797542
They do say successful people generally have a higher degree of psychopathy

>> No.18797569

>>18797565
That's not psychopathic at all, its only slightly edgy. I'm edgy, not smart.

>> No.18797588
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18797588

So what do you think about the idea of turning this jaded girl into an unstoppable godlayer killer, by killing her 10 times early on?

>> No.18797598

I feel Fox Brother's high speed INI is fucking me over, man. He's comparable in power and time with the party to the others, but quite far behind in AP.

>> No.18797612

>>18797598
You can always reset his speed INI with Maile's service if you are concerned about it.

>> No.18797630

>>18797528
Doesen't it take a shitton of time tho? Did you prepare offering beforehand or what?

>> No.18797655

>>18797612
Yeah, but I'm not keen on starting over with raising him. I think that if everyone just gets stronger the difference will turn out negligible (he'll still be gaining AP when everyone else has gained so many that they have trouble earning them).

>> No.18797665

>>18797630
No i simply returned to 1st floor of lesimas to get to cyber dome fast, 2 gun vendors, both at single x50 investment will make piety farming for android a trivial issue,

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>>18797588

>> No.18797739

>>18797720
For what purpose

>> No.18797749

>>18797739
>'every 2 hours of game-time her level is incremented by her total number of deaths (only those after her transition into "the pitiless"), resulting in gains to stats, speed and skills'

>> No.18797758

>>18797749
but y tho

>> No.18797769

>>18797720
Gods, that text and UI color are awful. I don't know how you can stand that.

>> No.18797800

>>18797749
Some kind of hard parenting (through murder) to create a killing machine? Trying to get your all terrain ass scrapped by a vengeful roran? Participating in National Emo Kid Beatdown Day?

>> No.18797810

>>18797758
Creating a 'hidden' last boss, I guess.

>>18797769
I can understand text(it looks much better when i run it under wine), but whats the deal with UI color? Are you a fan of that black-on-poo-brown UI or vanilla gray?

>> No.18797819

>>18797810
Not him but that UI and a large portion of the screen are either piss yellow or have a weird yellow tint, at least the standard grey is neutral.

>> No.18797831
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>>18797739
>>18797758
He is a robot surrounded by robots worshipping the god of robots. Everything these machines do is either for science or shits and giggles, they don't respect life at all.
Letting Mani become a god was a huge mistake. Honestly, Lulwy deserved getting stabbed in her stupid fat tits for letting this happen.

>> No.18797839

>>18797810
Yeah. Your UI all clashes, it doesn't meld together well. It looks like you simply sharpened everything without adding some mudding to piece it all together. Very artificial, hard on the eyes, not comfy.

>> No.18797893

>>18797819
Its called ivory yellow and it gives very little strain on eyes. Original UI reminds me of some old windows 95 game with badly textured menus.

>>18797839
I see words but they have no meaning. I wonder why.

Are you guys mixing up UI and tileset maybe? Else it makes no sense.

>> No.18797900

>>18797893
Ah, yes, I see, you're the defensive type. No getting through to you, so I'll just ignore your terrible taste.

>> No.18797907

>>18797831
I wish I could stab (you)

>> No.18797922

>>18797893
I really don't understand their problem with your UI, it looks fine to me.

>> No.18797945

>>18797893
If yellow is your thing that's fine, I'm just telling you why I wouldn't use it. I wouldn't use one where everything has a noticable red or blue tint either.

>> No.18797947

>>18797900
>I'll just ignore your terrible taste.
You should have started with that instead of shitposting.

>> No.18797951

>>18797947
Shh.

>> No.18797965

>>18797900
>I'll just ignore your terrible taste.
I cannot be saved anymore, I guess. A pity.please dont do that in the future as well, thank you

>>18797922
They probably mixed up 'UI' and 'tileset', since tileset indeed have yellow tint applied. They probably dont know that when everything got some common tint applied brain starts to ignore it, yellow in this case only calms eyes after a while.

>> No.18797987

>>18797831
>either for science or shits and giggles
In my defense, pretty much all Elonians do that even without worshipping the god of science and being robots.

>> No.18798224

This question is subjective, but what are the statistically the best pets, that are the best looking females?

To rephrase, I want the best stat'd, best looking females as my party members. What/Who are they?

>> No.18798239

>>18798224
You're looking for good abilities, as high starting stats are only a detriment in the long term for raising a pet

>> No.18798253

>>18798224
Bitflags and unique abilities are important, everything else can be trained.
I vote Jure.

>> No.18798258

>>18797749
>>18797720

The stat gain doesn't transfer when you pen her, though.
BUT, there's no stopping you from, you know, summoning Jure after 20 hours and let Gwen beat Jure senseless and calling her flat titties.

>> No.18798261

>>18798224
Black Angel if you go by a measure raw potwer.
Ren'Ai if you go by best stats. She is a bacteria, though.

You can use any sprite/pcc you want either way.

>> No.18798289

>>18798224

>asking this superfluous question

The best stat female for your team is the one you bonded with over the time and properly train her to be on-par or stronger than you. Niggas these days only want things handed to them on silver plate, as oppose of going through time and trial to develop those good qualities.

>> No.18798294

>>18798224
Best team comp:
Younger Sister
Older Sister
Little Sister
Big Sister
H Sister
Dog Sister
Cat Sister

>> No.18798308

>>18798258
I want fight her, not make her my pet.

>> No.18798313

>>18798294
My man. I'd leave the younger ones tending shops though.

>> No.18798338

>>18798289
>these days
No way, only a scant few years ago raising a pet was so difficult that nearly every player treated theirs as disposable and just replaced them as they went along. Before E+, it was common practice to sell your little girl in Derphy ASAP for some pocket change and aspire to throw away your old pets for spiral kings. There's more pet raisers than ever before

>> No.18798339

>>18798308

Yeah, I figured. I should do the same too, just completed South Tyris and looking for some challenge that's nearby.

>> No.18798391

>>18798339
Have you beaten Siva?

>> No.18798398

>>18798294
>Little Sister
No filthy mutant cuckoos in my imouto-scented dream team please.

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>>18798391

Challenged him right before Yerleswood because I got lost. The result is pretty much the same as /imgrelated.

>> No.18798429

>>18798398
>not wanting a sister with four hands and two heads
It's like two sisters for the price of one

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18798455

Is there a way to do something like this effect with sprites for a custom NPC?

>> No.18798485

>>18798338
Just for general information, some of the E+ additions that made raising a pet finally viable:
-Pet stat+skill gain multiplied from shit to really fast for them to keep up with enemy power increase
-INI/AP system allows speed increase
-INI/AP system allows AI tweaking and helpful feats
-Potential gain from pet spending money increased
-Limb adjustment available
-Pickpocket gives pet money
-Evochat money donation, ore combination recipe and flowers for pet money
-Food sharing (+herb in)
-Tag system for easier protection/raising and more manageable big parties
-New crafting system, artifact fusion, increased living weapon appearance allows better gearing of pets
-Directive/command flag for party control
-More party-wide special actions
-Low INI (stat/skill/general) exp boost to allow weak creatures to catch up
-INI reset available at Oblivion Palace

I probably missed a bunch of shit too, it's great and I'm really happy to have all of these

>> No.18798506

>>18798429
what if you get 10 waists instead?
can you even hug that?

>> No.18798529

>>18798506
If she has 10 waists does that mean her body is really long and segmented like a centipede, or are there 10 hips side by side but with only one torso on one of them like bizarre Siamese decuplets?

>> No.18798538

>>18798506
If 10 waists means 10 vaginas I can certainly think of a few things I could do with her

>> No.18798548

>>18798538
>Having lewd thoughts for your little sisters.
there should be a limit to degeneracy

>> No.18798574

>>18798548
Where the fuck do you think we are!?!?

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>>18798529
Something like that

>> No.18798588

>>18798577
K-kawaii!

>> No.18798589

>>18798577
gaahhh

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18798592

Sometimes, you just have to say no and haul ass from there.

>> No.18798597

>>18798592
Weakling.

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18798636

>>18798597

Local man realised the limits of his form and decided to fuck off until his stat doubled.

>> No.18798698

>>18798636
>Nah I'm not going to fight that darkdeath evilgod of destruction, I'd probably die
>You a chicken? Bukawk
>Oh yeah? I'll show yo---
>Dies

>> No.18798732

>>18798698

Gotta put your dick where it doesn't belong, mate. Maybe it'll feel good instead.

>> No.18798739

>>18798294
Where's your M Sister?

>> No.18798746

>>18798739
>The little girl moans with pleasure from being neglected for so long.

>> No.18798849

>>18798746
well played, sir.

>> No.18798863

I caught a little sister and wrote a custom AI script for the first time because I got annoyed with her running away from everything. She turned from a huge annoyance in to a rapemurder machine. I have a question though. What determines how many command slots a pet can have? I noticed some of my others have more, but my little sister only has three.

>> No.18798885

>>18798863
Learning. Caps at 15 lines.

>> No.18798906

>>18798885
Thanks, I'll teach her well.

>> No.18798920

>>18798592
seems like an easy 13265 gold to me

>> No.18798946

>>18798920

Neato, mate. It was a brutal assfuck with only flour as lube to me.

>> No.18798978

>>18798636
Are you using a graphics pack? Cause that looks pretty good.

>> No.18798999

>>18798978

Beautify 1.7.5
OP's paste bin.

Most mobs have tits. Some sprite doesn't makes sense (guava looks like watermelon and watermelon looks like durians and shit). Newer bosses are in solid colour.

>> No.18799022

>>18798999
Ah, did you not update to 1.76 or did you not have to custom fix it?

>> No.18799071

>>18798999
>Newer bosses are in solid colour
Sounds like you didn't update the sprite sheet. Just take it and add the new characters to it with paint or something.

>> No.18799092

>>18799022
It's outdated. You have to manually fix it yourself.

>>18799071
Uh, maybe not, I am not bothered by it that much. Plus, purple and white squares Gravitail kind of grew on me.

>> No.18799406

>>18778391
In my bed, of course

>> No.18799968

>>18778391
She hasn't been home in three days, knowing her though, she's probably getting sloshed at some bar in the next town over, but I already stopped caring.

>> No.18799995

>>18797532
Is he really?

>> No.18800009

>>18797831
>in her stupid fat tits
Well, aren't you jealous.

>> No.18800012

>>18798455
I don't think so

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>>18800012
So guys which one should be the breeder?
Luxuious skin and adept at laying eggs,
or high quality skin with eggs coming out of the "wazoo"

>> No.18800087

>>18799995
Yeah. He breeds me Shades en masse.

>> No.18800090

>>18800073
Skins for gold, eggs for...gold.

Go for eggs.

>> No.18800099

>>18798455
Make a pet use a shift core, create an edit for the sprite and put in user folder like any other custom pet sprite, when it prompts you to select an alternative sprite for shift core mode select the new sprite. Now your pet will transform into it whenever it uses the shift core.

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>>18797588
Well its clearly not 'every 2 game-time hours'
After killing her again and resurrecting she's gained 1 more level.

>> No.18800444

>>18800414
Since she lacks greater evasion and eye of mind, she is considerably easy opponent for her level.

>> No.18800458

Is there any reason not to evolve your pets? I've got an evolution heart at the ready to turn my little girl into a valkyrie but I'm wondering if there's some pikachu to raichu shit where you lose something in the evolution.

>> No.18800466

>>18800458
The stat gains are static, so they may be worth more later on when they gain stats less quickly.
Not like it's a big deal though.

>> No.18800484

>>18800466
Pet stats are too easy to increase with herbed food. It only matters for +50-100. speed gain evos.

>> No.18800698

Which god would a loyal, courageous, perverted, god fearing monk of the sacred fist worship?

To reiterate: Which god endows the best stats and rewards for a martial arts character?

>> No.18800742

>>18800698
None of them really specifically benefit martial arts. I'd argue my default choices of Kumiromi and Lulwy are what I'd go with. Lulwy especially if you have need of an S for your M.

>> No.18800756

>>18800698
Rewards Jure(tactics/eye of mind)>Mani(more tactics)>Lulwy(evasion) for fast training, start with yacatect until 3rd reward. Lulwy's gem is great for tough battles.
Kumiromi(SP regen for shadow step spam, dextrity for +hit)>Opatos(str bonus, 10% damage reduction)>Mani(20% damage boost)>Lulwy(a bit of speed+emergency speed boost)>Jure(emergency cleanse+heal)

>> No.18801761

What happens if I eat the king's bed in Palmia? Does it respawn?

Just for clarification, it spawned as rawwork, so I can eat the bed if I really wanted to.

>> No.18801764

>>18801761
i would like to know

>> No.18801777

>>18801761
Don't you think it's a bit of a waste to eat that bed? I spent weeks doing nothing but awkwardly invading King Xabi's room to sleep on his bed because Jure knows it's no happy bed but it's far better than the cold hard ground.

You're going to just eat the second best bed in North Tyris? Are you going to defile the Holy Well next you bastard?

>> No.18801787

>>18801777
yes
nice digits

>> No.18801806

>>18801787
They are divine and inexorable proof that you cannot permanently get rid of King Xabi's bed.

>> No.18801824

>>18801806
It's been about a day since I tried taking it and throwing it at guards. It's back in its spot.

Earlier today I was trying to stuff a cooler full of big daddies so that it would be heavier for throwing at people. I'm pretty sad the game wouldn't let me throw my big daddy cooler at people but maybe this bed can work just fine.

>> No.18801831

>>18801764
I'm going to eat it just to find out.

>>18801777
I don't think there is anything funnier than a king getting ready to go to bed, tired of dealing with all the commoners only to find some foreigner in their bedroom eating his bedpost.

I mean, it's his fault for making his bed out of food, anyways.

>> No.18801843

>>18801831
report back friend

>> No.18801868
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>>18801843
Just ate it. Will report back after a week of game time.

>> No.18801872

>>18801868
well, that was a bit disappointing

nice payment

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>>18801868
>you can eat more

I mean, I'd like to add on something, anything to this post beyond that quote, but I don't know anymore.

Might as well note this since I didn't see it on the wiki. I can't seem to throw anything over 100 s. The treasure machine in the picture is about 98 s. I kinda want more of them for killing bards with.

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>>18801872
>>18801924
>>18801868

After king Xabi realized that his dream of a bed made of food just for him was a failed venture, he recommissioned a new bed made of bronze. Surely, no adventurers would be mad enough to eat his bed now...

>> No.18802214

>>18801947
Important question: Is guard stationed in his bedroom a male one?

>> No.18802278

Can anyone tell me Provoke's debuff effect? Is it a rage or mist of frailness?

>> No.18802285

>>18802278
>rage
'Fury' I mean.

>> No.18802337

>>18802285
Isn't it like both?

>> No.18802343

>>18802337
How does it scale mist of frailness then? In plus it got additional flat PV debuff that scales with spellpower.

>> No.18802369

>>18802337
Meh, in the end I checked the source.

Couldnt find anything that even remotely leads to mist of frailness, seems like wiki is incorrect\outdated here yet again. It sets current target to provoke caster, sets fury=on(duration 10-20 rounds, doesnt renew status effect on repeated provokes).
Also adds adds 1 gauge progression per provoked target, up to 21 total.
There is apparently also a flag added that prevents from target switch for 30 rounds after provoke.

>> No.18802470

What's the best overall equipment material out there and why is it rubynus?

>high dv/pv
>nat acid/fireproof
>medium-light weight
>increase life
>increase to-hit
>is red.

>> No.18802494

To not waste my full throttle autism mode, I checked actual formula for Hyper Dash damage.

dmghp tc, (sdata(301, 0) / 4 + 4) * (sdata(15, 0) / 4 + 3) + rnd(sdata(18, 0) + 5), 0, 64, 1000
sdata(301, 0) = riding skill level

(riding skill/4 + 4)*(PC will/4 + 3) + (random 5 to PC speed+5)

at 2k stats
504*503+(random 5 to 2005), ~253k damage

concentration and clear mind can boost will quite a bit, also Jure's kindness blade, with maxed out stats those 3 will boost will up to 5100. With fury/rampage on top it'll deal 1,28m to unprovoked or 2,57m to provoked targets.

I should paint my willis red and embark on some carmageddon-flavored journey some day.

Type-64 element's damage is decreased by target's combined armor PV+DV(values shown in equipment window, so naked targets should get full damage)

damage * 100 / limit(PV+DV + 100, 50, 3000)

>> No.18802502

>>18802470
>have shit damage
>have shit pv
rubynus is a pretty safe choice, but not the best for min/max'ing.

>> No.18802702

>>18797588
>>18797720
Why is she called <Gwen> the pitiless specifically after the time skip anyway? Is it that she has no pity or that no one pities her? It seems like she grew up to be a shiftless layabout so the latter wouldn't surprise me.

>> No.18802725

>>18802702
Reference to mmo character. refer to wikia for details, never played this mmo.

>> No.18802764

>>18802725

RIP to people who expected deepest lore.

>> No.18802814

How do I use the spell <Wish> right?
Does it just depends on luck or do I have to minmax casting chance + add some levels to it via level up points?

>> No.18802817

>>18802702
The NPC in the MMO is cute villager girl but then magic genocide happens and she is enslaved by furries for 7 years, her mum dies and after getting free she becomes a ruthless soldier (has happy end and marries dopey lieutenant that busts his ass trying to cheer her up).

Given how life is in Elona, the multiple wars and etherwind and constant monster invasions going on, and our Gwen being level 100 (strongest N. Tyris NPC) after those three years, she probably seen some shit

>> No.18802841

>>18802814
You need godly casting level to use the spell.
Its worth it, though - you get multiple wishes when reading wish book with high memorization skill level.

>>18802764
Elona has plenty of lore, though.

>> No.18802926

>>18801777
>>18797831

lmao flatty god

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I kinda want to buy this just for the name.

>> No.18803414

the latest E+ seems to be going overboard with the loot and the stat growth. Once I get past the early game it just keeps shoving souped-up living weapons and stardust in my face, and my/my pet's stats are shooting up even without the statue. Plus I can level up skills just by brainlessly travelling the world map.

I miss the challenge of the vanilla version.

>> No.18803439

If i want to make my pet a Dual wielder, does armor weight matter? as long as i keep her main weapon under 4.0s i can give her heavy armor?
How useful are dual wield pets with only 2 hands?

>> No.18803449

>>18803414
Because without this shit players played savescum:the game instead of Elona.

>>18803439
Armor weight doesnt matter, however making armor weight as little as possible will increase your main weapon's crit multiplier. A little.

>> No.18803459

>>18803414
If this weren't the case you would have to play for 1000 hours to access the act 3 content

>> No.18803741

>>18803449
I'll give her heavy armor then, thanks.

>> No.18803763

>>18803449
I still savescum, because I find it not pleasant to lose progress, I savescum stuff like dying to random stuff and things that randomness affects mostly.

>> No.18803783

>>18803763
I cured myself from this illness by playing only on loss. It was truly refreshing.

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>>18803783
MY BROTHER

>> No.18804284

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