/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>18773855
Dlanor A Cute.
CUTE!

>>18773855
Where bulge?

What is love? A miserable little pile of delusions.

>>18774515
Love = Lust

best seacat

>>18774635
underrated

>>18774635
breast seacat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPWPygVV0uk

>>18774594
To an extent, but that's not bad.

Natsuhi is pure and innocent!

>>18775849
Indeed she is!

WTB "Redemption"

>>18775849
And the best mother!

>>18776218
Small Jessica in her dress always melt my heart.

Beatrice!

>>18776376
Currently downloading the free version on steam just for that name.

I want to be experimented on by Takano!

>>18777075
Beatrice only appears later on. She's barely even mentioned in the free portion.

This is by far the best shitpost i ever seen in that weird umineko group.

>>18777257
Fuck, but if i like it maybe i will buy it
>>18777107
Same!

>>18777273
That's being said, Rusalka feels like she came right out of Umineko. She even refers to herself as a witch.

>>18777266
Duncantrice wrote crazier shit, that's pretty normal for his actual point of view of the whole story.

>>18777329
Im relatively new in that group i know about duncantrice because of the things that has been posted here (like hints for french only) but today i laughed a lot.

>>18777311
i hope its good, i haven't read a VN in a long time.

>>18777329
What is his point of view? i thought he was full rosatrice but sometimes he denied it (and he dislike shkanon) . Maybe gohda trice?

>>18777407
Dies Irae is pure well written chuuni fun.

If you like Umineko magical scenes, you will love the super powered poetic nazis in here-

dai will bless our ears
dai will set us free
dai will become all

>>18777375
Same, I actually only entered there to see the prophet himself speaking.
>>18777420
I wouldn't really be able to explain, and neither does he apparently, as I've never seen him posting anything concrete in the whole month I've entered the group and explored a bit.

But this recent post may kinda give you an idea of the madness behind it, I'll pick some examples.I also skipped some "Bore-ral being the real answer to Umineko" bullshit, and the worst part is that he doesn't seem to be trolling:

>>18777637
Oh my...

Does that make ANY sense with the full conversation at least?

>>18777697
nope, it doesn't really. at all

>>18777637
He messaged Xaki apparently, this is a new level of unironically shitpost.

>>18777637
>he said that the confession chapter is the truth but never said how to read it
Nah, i refuse to believe this kind of bullshit, too much for me, tell this is ironic.

>>18777637
>>18777717
Some people seem to be giving him ears, other seem to be just trolling, and a poor bastard look like he is trying to somehow discuss this with him for more than an year now.

And I thought Rosatrice was bad.

Enough of that fag, he's a paranoic fucktard
Post cute witches or Natsuhitrice will yell at you!

>>18777833
I would, but I can't find any that isn't corrupted by evil Erika doing evil things.

>>18777637
This is retarded.

The only clues in the soundtrack are the eunuch songs in EP7. And that has nothing to do with Rosatrice.

>>18778030
just ignore him, saying that the EP7 have no love was enough to discard his bullshit, now post lambda!

>>18778069

irl george with Sayo

>>18778205
Irl with George Soros

>>18778205
George's hotter and more charming than you will ever be anon, and Shannon (Yasu's persona) truly was in love with him.
You're here, pathetically shitposting about George while he's living the perfect life together with his beautiful wife in the Golden Land, forever.
Your jealousy couldn't be more obvious.

>>18777757
Heh, to think he would get cult following in here. So, people just called me on pvt to take a look at this thread.

I'm the "poor bastard" still patient enough to discuss with him. Trying to make him do a long post explaining his whole theory thing at the moment.

The results? Well...

>>18778320
love was a mistake

>>18778296
Shut up Jorji

>>18778296
Chill, im not the anon who hates george, i like him and i know that he wasn't fat, that was just for the overused meme

>>18778343
Nah, it's just that I'm apparently too closed minded I guess...

Well, see ya later, fellow /jp/ goat companions.
After this one I think I'm just gonna sleep.

>>18778410
he sounds like my 9 y/o nephew, beating around the bush like "I know but I don't want to tell"

>>18778410
why Umineko fandom is full of pretentious overthinkers? why a japanese VN should have hints for french people? we don't have the lyrics, what if someone is deaf? he will not have a chance. he's literally the most retarded and arrogant goat, worst that they 3 same guys on youtube.
The thing that i hate the most is the fact that he always said that Ryu is trolling? why the fuck in a story wich love is the main theme would you "troll xd" your fans with all the gender issue that yasu have, what the fuck im legit mad at this faggot.
Just ignore him.

>>18778410
>I seriously don't want to spoil you so I'll let you look for the little fragments of truth
He sounds like one of those kids that lied about having a relative that works for Nintendo that lets them play the secret next generation console but conveniently never having proof of it. Him actually having to explain means having his super secret theory exposed as the sham it is, and the attention he's getting from this babble would disappear. That, or he's crazy and it only makes sense to him.

>>18778691
it doesn't surprise me, he said the thing about ryu telling hints for french only in an anime expo, that's the equivalen to "my dad works on nintendo"

anyways, enough with the retarded croissant fag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_DvJwakV4I
Even if Shion did EVERYTHING WRONG, i felt bad at the end of Meakashi.

I WILL YOU YOU MY GOLDEN FART

>>18778691
>>18778704
Given R07's love for the esoteric, it wouldn't surprise me if Duncan was in the ballpark about some things.

The issue is that such a thing would be so esoteric that figuring it out would be next to impossible.

>>18778296
>17 year old fedora-tier cunt jealous of his 12 year old cousin
>turns into a fat 23 year old beta nerd
>gets tricked into marrying a dickless tranny
>tranny kills his entire family
>dies a virgin
>younger cousin ascends to the meta, becomes a badass wizard and cucks him
>fatfatfat spends the afterlife as a piece while GM Battler fucks his waifu

>>18778940
One thing that strikes me about Umineko is that even if you become a witch you're still subordinate to someone.

The hierarchy of smug bitches just never fucking ends.

>>18778738
yeah me too, and the manga nailed this part, it's one of the best part of Higurashi's manga adapation imo

>>18778767
I realized Ange's farts are unfiltered because she goes commando.

>Finished the question arcs in Higurashi for the first time
Holy shit bros that was amazing. It did drag a little introducing the slice of life bits every time, but that just added to the experience. It speaks volumes to the strength of the writing that I got scared just from what was being written and the way the faces would change during parts where they get angry at Keiichi. My favourite part was probably where they explain what Watanagashi means, and how the festival used to be done. The realization of the cotton and what it actually is still haunts me. I'm really looking forward to reading Meakashi

This is Beatrice. Say something nice about her.

>>18779504
Are you Butler?

>>18779611
Your daughter is a pathetic autist that can't even wipe her ass without your help. The human condition of a cute loli!

>>18779611
nice meem xd

>>18779877
?

>>18780013
xd

What's the best way to read higurashi? The steam version or the older japanese version with translation and texture patches? And which translation is the best?

>>18780603
If there is a "best way" related to the textures and sprites, it's certainly not the best way by very much. But if you like voices, you can have them with the Steam version.

>>18778410
https://youtu.be/kyn6BuQ4yTE

the virgin daniel
the chad duncan

>>18774635

LEWD

>>18778296
george a hippo. george a loser. george gets none.

>>18778320
>>18778410
Well, at least that shitty Rosatrice one gave its best shot at being elaborated enough to even be called a theory. This is just retarded (iust watched all of his videos anyway).

>>18780997
Keep at it, anon!

What if I'm the culprit?

>>18782586
You can't be, I am.

>>18782586
You can't be, because I am.

>>18782586
The reader is the real culprit because they kept reading the story :^)
There has to be something with a stupid-ass twist like this. DRV3 is close

>>18782941
Actually, Remember11 does something like that.

>>18782941
Isn't it your fault for dropping hints?

>>18782941
V3 was basically a mini Umineko in terms of overall metatwist. The difference is that the goats weren't an omniscient audience in Seacats, but confused readers looking for the enigmatic truth.

The culprit in that case was the Truman's Show per se, and the audience were passive accomplices.

Really liked what they did in there. Remember 11 is also similar, indeed, but not exactly in that way

UUUUUUUUU

What if Ryukishi is an uncle who works at Nintendo - through Entergram-?

>>18783395
They really do have a lot of similarities, but I think it stands on it's own for the difference in message, theming and ridiculously strong presentation.

best dangan rn.

but this is an umineko thread and uhh, i like umineko better. still have a lot of love for danganronpa though.

I live a life of praying for miracles. I always feel helpless, even when the solution is right in front of my eyes. I'm convinced that anything good that happens to me must be the result of being lucky. I might never give up but I'm also horrified of certainty. Miracles are all I have.
If Bern were real, she'd be laughing at me.

>>18780603
The old Mangagamer version with MUSIC and SOUND patches. And maybe a FONT patch if you can't stand the one they use. Nothing else. Once you get used to the original art, you can't ever go back.

The Steam version has a slightly better translation, but it's still mediocre at best and they censored an important scene.

You could also learn Japanese and read the original version. It's not that hard.

Also, don't forget to read the Saikoroshi chapter in Rei. It's the epilogue to the whole story and it's fucking great.

>>18783955
So you're saying that people should read the awful old translation rather than the improved Steam translation just so they can see Satoko naked for 10 seconds? Makes sense

Certainty is something that I'm scared of. I can't understand it and can't trust it. Maybe if I weren't the sort of person who can't put his trust in anything I wouldn't blogpost on /jp/ about my feelings. 100% is far too big and too freaky of a number for me to handle.
If Lambda were real, she'd find me interesting.

If I were a witch, I'd be called the Witch of Denial. Even if I know that something is correct, I will still deny it. I will deny everything. Sometimes I wonder if I even read Umineko at all and I just dreamed my experience instead of actually reading it.

>>18784032
The new translation is still shit with even more typos. Did they even keep all the original music?

>>18784453
How do you know it has more typos if you haven't read it? If you had read it you would have known that it has all the original music and sound effects

>>18784215
>Witch of Denial
Is your name KnowNoMore?

>>18784513
I've seen videos and counted like 6 typos in one of them.

>>18784733
They patch all the time fixing typos.

>>18784733
there are no typos in the released arcs any longer, then they will release the next arc, people will complain about typos, and they will fix them yet again. it's quite the vicious manga gamer cycle on Steam

>>18784032
Subahibi got an official patch that restored 90% of the game, since they couldn't sell the whole thing on Steam. Why can't Mangagamer do the same thing with the Satoko sprite?

>>18785798
Because it is literally irrelevant and only appears for half a second, while the other is pretty much almost the whole game?

I would they even bother desu, it's quicker just to give her a towel and put it on steam. Nobody plays 07th Expansion games for fapping, anyway.

>>18785798
cause mangagames are cowards. why do you think they took out a sample from star-trek in the umineko track system 0?

Also on this topic, it really is a damn shame that a completely non-erotic use of nudity is being treated like some horrendous taboo. It is pretty damn important for the scene in question. What's worse is that they don't even take into account much worse implications that are important and far from tasteless writing. If you felt the same disturbing dread I did at realizing Satoko broke down by being pat on the head, then I'm sure you completely understand how impactful this is.

I can't protect her anymore...

>>18785938
>cause mangagames are cowards. why do you think they took out a sample from star-trek in the umineko track system 0?
The PS3 version also had it removed. Legal reasons, I bet. I can live with such a change, it's still one of my favorite tracks that gets the blood pumping.

>Also on this topic, it really is a damn shame that a completely non-erotic use of nudity is being treated like some horrendous taboo. It is pretty damn important for the scene in question.
The nude sprite for Satoko not being shown is also likely due to legal reasons. I agree with what you're saying, but it's too much of an unnecessary risk to do otherwise. I would rather have such a small piece be censored if it means more people can read it, especially when it's such a tiny part of the whole story. There's more to Satoko than her being nude for one extremely brief scene, it's really not that big of a deal.

How did R07 works influence you?

>>18787140
I want to become a witch and have cute witchlet daughters!

>>18787140
My general way of thinking and opinion of people as a whole. It's nothing specific as it's just a whole slew of things.

>>18787140
After Umineko some of my viewpoints in life changed.

>>18787140
I want to cut my penis and become a lesbian witch

>>18787140
I became more open-minded.

>>18787241
Did you accept that magic exists in truth?

>>18787140
I got into humiliation.

>>18787140
There's a Hanyuu inside my head who keeps reminding me that you always lose if you don't even try

>>18787287
You can't not even try if you're dead, anon.

>HURR DURR SHKANON IS OBVIOUSLY THE TRUTH
Oh yeah? Then explain why Shanon, Kanon and Beatrice all of have different voice actors.

>>18787441
They want to distract you from the ultimate canon nuclear truth.

>>18787441
Checkmate for any of those idiots.
They have to understand the sound is what actually matters in Umineko... and symbolism for french people.

Duncantrice is the only truth, non-believers!

>>18787531
I miss forcing Moon-chan down people's throats;_;

>>18787567
How old is that theory anyway? I've been a part of the fandom for over 6 years, but it already seemed like a dead theory way back then.

>>18787567
I miss the old times ;_;
(But i never liked the rosashit theory.)

>>18787567
>Moon-chan will never moon Erika and the goats to disrespect them
Why live?

>>18787263
a-are you the humilliation anon? what happened to your ramblings?

>>18787668
Seems he shut up thankfully.

>>18787759
You make me want to do it again.

>>18787668
Rhyme got so badly humiliated that anything else from him would be a disappointment. Let humiliation anon go out with a bang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FzpPjwh6g
This part was epic, EP2 was so good.

>>18787140
i’ve been told i’ve been much more passive, self-aware, analyzing, and calm for about 2 years now, which happens to be the around the time I finished Umineko so interpret that however you want.

>>18787140
It inspired me to start reading philosophy and to stop being a brainlet blindly following what others believe

>>18786331
>There's more to Satoko than her being nude for one extremely brief scene, it's really not that big of a deal.
Of course! In the end, it's mostly just the purist in me that wants things portrayed as originally intended. I think striving for the original experience isn't necessary in media, but if changes improve upon nothing then it just feels like a waste.

Satoko is one of my favorite Higurashi characters, I couldn't only focus on one note.

>>18787140
Im a witch now,cya nerds

>>18787140
Not much really
Maybe more empathetic and stubborn about giving up and stopping thinking

Did Ange ever understood the truth of Beatrice true identity?
Sorry if the question is stupid.

>>18787534
Duncan, the greatest thinker and the wisest human. All reality comes back to Duncancube. All corners lead to a cube, Duncancube. Bending of reality stupid educators choose to ignore. It's okay to eat your family for the greater good of Duncancube. Teach Duncancube coward educators or face the consequences of never knowing enlightenment. Those who disprove Duncancube may receive 1.000 dollars. I know it is impossible to disprove. Your ignorance of Harmonic Duncan is demonic.

>>18788424
Daily reminder that Lambdadelta agrees with based Schopenhauer that Hegel is a charlatan.

>>18788455
No, but she understood that she should kill herself for being a pathetic ass-having human being.

Furniture shouldn't try to find love and ass-having human beings like Ange shouldn't have any sort of pride or self-esteem.

>>18788455
The human condition of Ushiromiya Angsty! She claims to be a witch, but she actually has a physical body! Lewd! Dirty! Humiliating!

>>18788508
>>18788521
At least you gave us a week without humilliation angeposting, thanks! you really never forget the heart.

LOOK WHAT YOU FUCKS DID.
IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN.
FUCKING JUUUUUUUUUMP!

Satoko is a kid! what a loser!

>>18788552
Sorry it was a honest question

>18788576
It ok. Just try not to let this /07/ comedy turn into a /07/ tragedy.


I think there's the possibility that she realized through hindsight or books that were published, but it's ultimately pretty important that she doesn't sit down and simply accept this kind of insufferable reality. Magic over trick. She probably doesn't know imo.

>>18788576
It ok. Just try not to let this /07/ comedy turn into a /07/ tragedy.


I think there's the possibility that she realized through hindsight or books that were published, but it's ultimately pretty important that she doesn't sit down and simply accept this kind of insufferable reality. Magic over trick. She probably doesn't know imo.

The fact that ange has a digestive system means that she can defecate, lewd!

>>18788425
The latest release of Higurashi seems simple enough to mod, it probably wouldn't be that hard to do it yourself and keep it faithful.
Higurashi isn't an eroge. Releasing an optional patch exclusively for one sprite change of a naked underage girl would just cause drama. There were already people that bitched about the possibility of it before that chapter was re-released, and if enough word gets out about there officially being an option then it seems likely to turn people away from never picking up Higurashi or only sticking to the anime.

After all I am still a CHILD.

>>18788674
Who killed her father.

>>18788680
I am afraid that is a secret no one will ever KNOW.

>>18788680
please stop trying to obfuscate the truth about her dad.
this is her dad.

>>18788707
i remember the EP8 scene "wich one of you mentioned MYSTERY" or some shit like that

>>18788707
oh and while im at it, here's a picture of her mom and dad.
she has a very cute mom.

Can someone please explain what the Moon-chan theory is? I went archive-diving and all I can find is just shitposts and nothing about the theory itself.

>>18787441
I don't particularly remember which episode it was, Lambda says it clearly that voice doesn't matter. Original novel didn't have voices as well

>>18788885
We had so many Umineko threads in both /a/ and /jp/ during the time it was really freaking popular in here, it would take you forever to read enough to find some info way back in the day, especially since most of them didn't even get labeled as generals of any kind.

In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, this general for example was a thing that started only 2 years or so ago in here, as for quite a while, if you tried to make a general for Umineko, /jp/ mods would just delete it.

Just think of it as Jessica arcana being the moon and she being the only blond chick in the family, thus being similar to Beato or something, that'd be the short version. It would be too much of a hassle to search for old Umineko threads, believe me. It's better just to accept you lost the golden age of theorizing madness train.

>>18773855
Woah...I guess we really were Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni™ all along...

One question about Umineko: I'm playing it for the first time, just started episode 2, and I've noticed that, unlike Higurashi, the perspective seems to flip flop between characters a lot, like when Natsuhi enters Kinzo's study and gets complimented by him in episode 1, when Eva is thinking about her life with Hideyoshi in their room right before they get murdered, or at the start of episode 2, with Shannon and Kanon's perspectives. I've heard Umineko is a fair play mystery, but I also know that one of the 10 commandments of detective fiction is that the culprit cannot be someone who's thoughts have been followed by the reader. For Umineko, are those rules set in stone, or do very quick looks into the minds of other characters 'not count' as breaking that rule? I can't help but feel that if the story keeps switching perspectives like that, it'll narrow down the list of culprits too much.
I realize all of those characters die, but the possibility of a faked death from one of them is always there.

>>18789866
>but I also know that one of the 10 commandments of detective fiction is that the culprit cannot be someone who's thoughts have been followed by the reader
The only commandment remotely similar to that is
>The detective must not himself commit the crime.
They are general guidelines more than rules anyway, Higurashi broke a lot of them

>>18789866
You're right at the edge of learning that for yourself in the vn. Just trust the fair play angle and the novel for the time being. There is some fucking with the rules of mystery fiction, but such things are explained to you and the mystery is solvable.

>>18789886
>>18789877
Understood, thanks lads, I'll just keep reading and stay away from threads until I can form a deduction after the Question Arcs.

>>18789877
>The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow.

>>18789893
oh shit I'm retarded?

>>18789891
Don't stop thinking anon.

>>18789789
You mean Episode 5 after voicing the phone call to Natsuhi?

>>18789866
It's funny that Higurashi is a book in Rokkenjima Prime, because that would imply it was nothing more than a gameboard in the kakeraverse.

In fact, Lambda and Bern said the same thing.

My best bet is that Ikuko is the author for Higurashi before she started writing the Rokkenjima Conspiracy series.

>>18790098
Is it a book in Prime?

>>18790098
This is true, but it also makes me worried about what happened in the Rokkenjima Prime Hinamizawa during Umineko. Considering she yet again based her books in real life events probably using K1's letter and some other things to create a basis for her works, and that both Okonogi and Amakuza looks to be fine and well after all those years, what if Higurashi also got a tragic ending much like Umineko did for real in Rokkenjima Prime?

>>18788885
>>18789837
Moon-chan guy here. Uh... yeah, basically Jessica looks spoogi in a tarot card and given the circumstances of Yasu I just thought it was impossible she didn't know about the cross-dressing meido.

The TLDR is that she was abusing Yasu's feelings for her own purposes.

For reference.

>>18790189
God I wish that moon was me.

>>18790209
I'd rather be this pumpkin.

>>18790268
I don't know, Gaap always struck me as carrying a plethora of STDs for some reason.

Inb4, WTC5 takes place at our layer of reality this time around and has Ryukishi as a character... And he's a woman all along with a male representative.

>>18790722
Higurashi event going on this month may be a foreshadowing towards that too.

And you guys thought we couldn't get any more meta in the series.

>>18790735
>And you guys thought we couldn't get any more meta in the series.
I honestly wouldn't put it past the madman.

>>18790722
But we already had Ikuko/Featherine

I'm going to marry Lambda.
Don't try to stop me. You can't...

>>18791848
Watch me.

Witches don't exist.

>>18788425
>>18785938

Maidens of Michael got removed from steam because it had a scene showing nipples from a ''loli'' and some Canadian reported it for CP.
It's been almost a month and it's still not restored on steam.

Do you really want MangaGamer to risk it and get Higurashi nuked from steam too?

>>18791956
that's not red, what you're trying to do is wrong and you can't prove that!

im gonna marry lambda!!!!

>>18792001
Of course it's not red. It's black and white, bitch.

>>18792007
Of course it's not red. It's black and white, bitch.

>>18792014
Oh for the love of beato.

>>18791961
Higurashi is a work perfectly capable of lasting past all idiotic state legislature. That is what I believe in. I don't care if Higurashi gets nuked from Steam. It is a worthwhile novel and it will triumph regardless of Gaben allowing it.

>>18792014
willard is a good boy who would never heartlessly deny! he only wants to understand and resolve. don't slander willard.

>>/jp/thread/S2836350#p2836661
So nostalgic.

>>18792213
Seeing cool old shit like this makes me wonder how anons were reacting when people started understanding the truth.

>>18792001
You can marry her, but first I'm going to FUCK her!

>>18792619
I'd buy that for a dollar.

don't lewd the witches kudasai

>>18792738
How about the furniture then?

>>18792619
That's way too much for this. What is this world coming to?

I would unironically recommend Umineko just because the magic fights.
I would unironically recommend Higurashi just because the SoL chapters.

Leave Rena to me!

>>18787534
that fucktard was in Rokkenjiima forum right? Pretty sure that is "Narda" (and "Maria" too)
https://forum.rokkenjima.org/t/umineko-spoilers-general/730/177

>>18792969
The magic fights were way too long and dragged out. The one in ep3(?) between Virgilia and Beato was uninteresting and I by the time I was halfway through I was starting to lose interest and felt like turning it off. I really can't see how the magic fights are so enjoyable that you would recommend Umineko because of it.

I like Rena

>>18792969
EP5 Battler vs Erika was so epic, and Battle(r) for the golden land oh god (but i wanted erika to be fucked , hated the "after image" thing, that was like the "its a hologram" role play battle between sephirot and tails, fuck her)

>>18792969
I would unironically pat your head.

Getting this error in Meakashi, I've ran it in Japanese local as admin and still getting it. It's happening very early on

>>18793096
Is there even a consistent place for Umineko/WTC discussion after that place died besides here? With the impending WTC5 and Umineko 9th game, it's the perfect opportunity for a community to thrive, the gradual nature of WTC releases encouraging longitudinal discussion.

What episodes of the anime are the question arcs in Higurashi?

>>18793948
Up to episode 15 of the first series.

>>18793948
Onikakushi: 1-4
Watanagashi: 5-8
Tatarigoroshi: 9-13
Himatsubushi: 14-15

Rosatrice is life :v!

>>18793905
Not yet, the umineko fb group is a shithole and discord is weird, someone made another forum but it doesn't feel like the old one.

>>18793982
>>18793984
Thanks buddies

does anybody in this thread think that they could win over bernkastel and or lambdadelta in a gameboard? they’re supposed to be 2000 IQ geniuses but they get destroyed by an 18 year old buffoon.

>>18794203
A board of their own creation? No, as I failed to decipher the mysteries of Lamba's original board before the reveals.

>>18794203
No, I stopped thinking and couldn't even beat Bernkastel's game without a walkthrough.

>>18794203
I solved Bernkastel's game in Episode 8, which means that I am literally at least 2001 IQ genius.

>>18794203
Even if you win both Bernkastel and Lambdadelta would literally blow your ass to smithereens not far after, hell bern might even put you in the most depressing and horrible timeline she can.

>>18794203
If it's a murder mystery like Umineko, maybe. But if it's like Higurashi where in addition to finding the mastermind I have to come up with a plan to stop them, then I'll wave the white flag.

OP is going to get his wish...

>>18788716
How can Dlanor have two (2) DADS!?

>>18794564
no that's mom god damn it.
look at this and tell me that's not her mom.

>>18794835
A male mom then!

i want to be impregnated by witches.

>>18794145
Yeah, there's no way I'm joining that Facebook group! I trust your attestations to its incompetence! And Discord as a discrete, account-based application—discussions always in flux—is no substitute for a steady and available forum. Rokkenjima was an unprecedented and exoteric news nexus for this smaller fanbase so it's almost sardonic, really, that we're left with this new forum, doomed to failure without major effort and investment. Tsk, tsk.

>>18795503
And animesuki umineko forum is closed.
True, i lurked in that forum(Rokkenjima) a lot before making and account, the community was so god and the administrators put a lot of effort in the forum(the podcast for example), truly a good place, it's sad that now is dead , they revived the small umineko fanbase ;_;.
And now that we are going to get WTC5 and new umineko content, is more sad.
Im in this fanbase since 2009 but things are nearly dead right now, type moon in the other side is shinning, i feel a little envy.

>>18795596
>type moon in the other side is shinning
The fanbase layed entirely on waifufaggotry will take you places.

>>18795618
lol

>>18795596
And I'll be lambdaposting here and there for my amusement like I always have. I couldn't properly convince Rokkenjima to stay around, which is really boring for me, but if someone wanted to put an effort toward something, I'd definitely assist and be at their side throughout it all as long as they kept trying!

If Ryukishi improved as a writer from Umineko to now then expect a preeminent WTC5! Haworthia already proved he'll resume with total philosophical profundity, and it'll of course have tons of heart and wit behind it, too. It'll be a really fun game!

this is the man himself. say something nice to him.

>>18795898
"I've fapped to your characters over 100 times."

>>18788503
I'm not sure how Lambda and Bern are supposed to correspond to the Will desu. Aren't they one of those meme dualities where both sides are actually the same thing mediated by and in opposition to itself Hegel likes so much?

Certainty doesn't exist, because the possibility of a miracle that turns everything on its head is always there. Miracles don't exist because something that's certain to come about can't be called a miracle.
The true certainty, therefore, is the certainty of miracles, and the true miracle is a situation in which what appears certain is not miraculously turned on its head but maintained. They exist in and through each other. That's why it's love!

Who did it better?

>>18796130
Madoka and Higurashi were written for different formats and went for completely different things narrative-wise, so I'm not sure they could even be compared in regard to who did "super time loop eternal tragic fate ultra despair girls" better. The solution to Homuras problems was a literal deus ex machina (though a pretty well executed one), while Rikas problems were resolved in a way that could for the most part be explained in terms of the characters growing and being able to help each other out in ways that were closed off to them before, which is definitely less of a cop-out as far as justifying the way the tragedy ultimately plays out goes.

I do like Madoka though. It has a cool visual aesthetic, a great soundtrack and most of its characters are well written, and that last one especially is a lot to ask of a 12 episode show.

How come Mion was so quick to admit that her family had nothing to do with the murders to K1 in Tsumihoroboshi, but didn't try explaining to Shion in Wata/Meakashi until the very last minute?

>>18795898
source of that?

>>18795898
Mion looks dead inside

>>18780997
>>18782529

>>18797850
Eva and Hideyoshi pig.

>>18797622
[180409]アニゲーイレブン! 130 (BS11 1280x720 x264 AAC 60fps)
it's on nyaa

>>18795898
Damn Ryu's THICC, gonna kiss that belly

>>18797024
Shion avoids her for the most part, doesn't she? The only time she shows up in the same scenes as Mion are during out of school club activities and one or two times when she wants to ask her sister a favour.

>>18798542
Probably meant after Shion threw her in the dungeon.

Maria would like to shitpost! Maria's shitpost! Uuuu!

>>18778595
>why Umineko fandom is full of pretentious overthinkers?
One positive thing out of it, is that they're personalities give seacats, who inspire to be a writers, great characteristics to apply to their antagonists in their stories.

how do you think punching bern feels like?

I can't believe Duncan actually solved Umineko

>>18799735
I have never seen a nigga grasping more at straws than Duncan.

>>18799735
you may not like it but this is what peak IQ looks like.

>>18799735
Can't believe Duncan actually figured out that Umineko ties into the kill the past series and Lambda and Bern are observers who obtained silver hyena eyes

>>18799735
so what's boreral supposed to mean? french for boreal?

>>18799809
it's the name of the song that plays when Kinzo meets OC Beatrice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX32Qeq9z1s
I believe the idea is that it's the name of a french opera, with the letters for love removed, and that the lyrics call the 'play' being narrated on stage by Clair out for being "An opera without love", which might make it yet another illusion. That, or it just means that Clairs narration is the truth, but without any love, which would also make sense since she's a character created by Bern.

>>18799885
>the truth, but without any love
>in Umineko

>>18799885
The problem is that the fag takes his interpretation to another level and said that all Shannon/Yasu's story is fake

>>18795745
http://thegoldenland.freeforums.net/
Someone created this forum but it's not good as the previous one.

So I snooped around a bit and apparently Roundbooster Architexture (the publisher of some of the Umineko OST CDs) actually has official lyrics for Bore-Ral, S/he and Goddes-Gardena on their website

They only have Japanese translations instead of the original language lyrics for some reason, but it's probably the best we're ever going to get

http://www.roundbooster.com/umineko.html

>>18800270
Wow thanks, awesome research anon.
Where are the anons who understand japanese here, we need you!
I think that no matter what the actual lyrics say, that madman will use them for his headcanon.

>>18799735
Is the other guy, Bruno, sucking his dick right? that group is full cancer, im here just for a shitposting curiosity

>>18800270
By using the Japanese lyrics as a reference I think I've figured out the lyrics to the chorus, which is in (bad) English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX32Qeq9z1s From 1:00 to 1:33

>You yet do not know what is the meaning of this
>You never have known and you never will know
>You yet do not know what is the meaning of this
>You never have known this and never will know
>You yet do not know what is the meaning of this
>You never have known this, you never will know
Does that sound right?

I don't know French so I can't figure out the rest of the song. Someone else will have to do that

Huh, so we are going full deep into Duncantrice?

That sounds like fun. Too bad we won't get to see his ashamed face after we destroy his theory bits by bits with his own poison and laugh at his mind raped poor state-
"ahaha.wav" 's in witch

What if duncan believes in Gohda-trice? remember Happy Maria right?
If that's the case i'm with him.

beato

>>18800763
>Does that sound right?
Yes, a lot better that "look at a LOVE no one here has a meaning of it",
You a did a better job without hearing the sountrack 500 times like Duncan's did (Yes he said that)

I want to mate press Duncan

>>18800960
Yeah show him what's LOVE, maybe that's what he needs.

Hey buddies, what's the name of this song?
my.mixtape.moe/mwpcyy.flv

>>18800947
Oh, so that's why he kept repeating that retarded phrase.

>>18801051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMTy-EtfLM

>>18801185
>It's actually called (You)
Thanks friendo

>>18801051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVSxEvBNSw&list=PLoYsT2iqvr7DucDwj0AUhfNstxUcHHkx8&index=3

Has anybody ever bothered calculate how much Kinzo's wealth is actually worth in today's dollay? Well, I just did, according to acouple of shitty inflation calculators and in-game information the gold is worth anywhere in the 2.2-2.8 billion dollars in current USD, putting Kinzo in the top 100 richest people of 1986.

No, it's Dunkanontrice idiots.

What would the Ushiromiyas drive?

>>18801472

>>18801472
fat cocks

>>18801531
Yes please

>>18799735
Tha's a serious case of special-snowflake syndrome.

I'm reading Meakashi for the first time, am I supposed to be keeping up with the whole Mion and Shion thing? My brainlet mind is getting confused

>>18801725
The entire thing is from Shion's perspective. Just remember that, and you should be fine.

>>18801725
Yes

hmmm...I don't know bros, is it worth it? Seems a tiny bit too expensive...

>>18801834
What the fuck why is that figure so expensive!?

>>18801834
https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1063641656&ref=list

>>18801834
I want to cum in that figure ;_;

>>18801898
You will ruin Rena's pretty face!

need Mion gf

>>18801915
my cum it's the hourai elixir! She may become young forever!!

He solved bore ral because he has love.

>>18801931
>stuck living for all eternity in a shitty town because you think maggots will grow out of you if you move away

As someone who read the VN, should I watch the Higurashi adaptation at all?

I want to fart in Rosa's face!

>>18801946

>>18801950
Wouldn't be DEEN without it.

>>18801950
For the voice acting, yes I guess.

>Started Tsumihoroboshi
>The difficulty is zero, you can enjoy the clowns milling about
What did 07th mean by this

>>18795745
>>18795503
Why even though you're typing like a smartass I feel like you're an idiot?

>>18799414
Maria simply loves getting her asshole humiliated!

>>18802044
You are never going to die, right? At least try it once, pls.

>>18801966
i never figured out what the difficulty thing even meant

>>18802062
I think is for people who was actually trying to solve the story before the last 2 chapters

>>18802062
I heard it was how emotionally taxing it was to read through it all.

>>18802062
Difficulty usually means how hard it is to understand what is actually happening.

>>18801946
It's pretty good and has great music, but it's a horrible adaptation. You may not find it too bad because you already know the entire plot and deeply understand the characters. Otherwise, it's an edgy clusterfuck.

You get to see Rena's ass crack in Kira. And it's canon. Isn't that just mindblowing?

>>18801975
He seems nice to me.

>>18802081
One of the reasons I am so cautious about watching it is how condensed EP1-6 are in the adaptation, it seems crazy to me to somehow condense all that in 24 episodes without it being completely ass.

>>18802084
I didn't say he wasn't a good person, just stupid.

>>18801946
It ruins the pacing and is essentially the shocking bits just strung one after another with no sense of the pacing or tension in the VN.

>>18802081

>>18802099
>Shion studies with Kei-chan to try and get closer to him
>Rena brings him to the dump and makes cookies for him
>Mion lets him win a game in their usual group activities which he never would have realized without Rena calling her out
Is Mion dumb?

Sucking Lion's tiny dick

>>18802119
Mion is too good for K1.

>>18802121
Who says he has a tiny dick?

>>18799735
Wait, that's his actual logic?

Like, I don't think he is wrong about symbolism in the music, since we already found some other one in this very track (castrato), that (un)surprisingly, he didn't at all.

I just think he must be retarded not to understand what could this mean if it even was a thing, because he interpreted the story in an unbelievably autistic way not even he seem to be able to explain.

If he was to use the "Claire" theater in EP7 as the representation of the song (even though I'm pretty sure it only happened during the submarine scene and the Golden Land invasion by pirate Erika), he would most likely find something along the lines of:

Bolero de Ravel is Claire's performance. Boléro epitomises Ravel's preoccupation with restyling and reinventing dance movements.

Claire representing Yasu wrote countless partiularly varied tales of murder and conspiracy.

This literally means "without love it cannot be seen". Not something like "cutting "Love" gives you the name of the song, but the opposite: With love, you can finally see the spectacle.

Why would anyone going with this after reading the whole series not consider this to be the obvious option, and instead, somehow find a completely different meaning which should be logically the exact opposite of the intended (what would you gather from Bore/Boer Ral compared to what you would gather if you added love to it? Without love, you only get something that makes no sense, such as the title Bore/Boer Ral. With love, you can see it refers to the Bolero de Ravel).

In the end, you could even interpret as "without love, you cannot see that this song was a homage to Bolero de Ravel".

>>18802130
Sucking Lion's monster cock.

>>18801834
I literally bought this same figure for 45 euros 3 years ago what the fuck

>>18802133
Because he's retarded and it's in denial.

>>18802144
Figure prices have been going up and up the last few years and there aren't many re-releases.

>>18795954
This passage from World as Will really intrigued me (I was simultaneously reading Umineko): https://i.imgur.com/zS7zO0y.jpg.. Lambdadelta and Bernkastel embody forces of nature that motivate characters, and while Umineko explores the magical cosmology as a reader excoriation, the destructive boredom is critical to the voyagers, whose constituents are the spectators/readers in and out (us) of Umineko. The voyager is born of hardship, seeks fleeting happiness, rests in languor while the illusion persists, and suffers until the next game, suspended by their immortality.
Magic is the ineffable and impalpable motivation which precedes Schopenhauer's will and everything else. Since it's ineffable, we can only discuss its effects and never it for itself, like the elusive mechanism of the hand of the clock's movement—creating 1 from 0, the sea of nothingness. It's said this is the domain of creators, but all magic is creation from nothing.

Nagarjuna's metaphor offers the same idea. "As a magician creates a magical illusion by the force of magic, and the illusion produces another illusion, in the same way the agent is a magical illusion and the action done is the illusion created by another illusion." Haworthia expanded on this perforating and percolating magic, actually, with it's eighth track (https://soundcloud.com/mgraveyard/08-vocal4-sample).). Sky of Sunyata is a hymn precisely to Nagarjuna's Madhyamakan magic, who was also born Hindu (this is how we connect him to Schopenhauer, who loved the Upanishads Nagarjuna knew well).

As for the Lambda/Bern duality, yeah, they are a duality, but that's like settling on Dante's influence extending merely to Beatrice/Virgilia's names and the stakes.

>>18801975
Cause it's an easy conclusion to reach and abdicates the intellectual process on the conspirator's part!! For real don't worry about it though.

>>18802084
Thank you for appreciating my heartfelt Lambdaposting!

>>18802378
As an addendum to this, definitely read Borges if you liked Umineko! There's so much in common there that you don't even have to like literature or VNs to appreciate one if you appreciate the other, and the short story format is conducive to the new reader's investment!

>>18802378
Well, don't mind me then. I will continue to think you are dumb, but from afar.

>>18802378
You're welcome, i like Lambda!
>>18802386
Will do, i don't know anything about literature or philosophy but i want to read something interesting.

>>18802416
In that case, read his Ficciones, first, and here I'll preemptively ease you into them with light hints of what some of the short stories share with Umineko. So generous.

Oh, and most of these are metafiction.

Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius: The process of worldbuilding in storytelling, epistemology, the story morphing to the reader's impressed illusions.

An Examination of The Work of Herbert Quain: Reader criticism (and scathingly on the critic) in face of unconventional narrative.

The Library of Babel: Loosely epistemological, a godly library of stunning infinitude, Lambdadelta's own, beloved infinite monkey theorem, the nature of the reader on the text he/she reads.

Death and the Compass: Really a spellbinding murder mystery with eerie occultism, but it's also totally excellent by its own merit so definitely look forward to it.

I'm very excited to read your thoughts.

>>18802378
I'd vomit afterwards if someone forced me to read that whole book, or otherwise feel lobotomised.

>>18802653
>not vomiting as you are reading the book
casual

Matsuribayashi or Miotsukushi?

>>18802099
I can't believe I'm actually seeing Rena's canon ass crack. How am I supposed to take her character seriously anymore?

>>18802099
I wonder if Rika and Satoko were surprised by Renaの80s bush.

>>18802099
>>18803729
Rena is a girl full of dark secrets...

>>18802133
well, from what I could gather, he is also using the lyrics for Claire's image song as an argument, I really can't understand what the hell Bore Ral has to do with Claire in any way, as the song isn't used in her parts iirc.
in any case, as for the lyrics:

"I am just a happy reader,
speaking the lead’s next lines
in a costume as white as snow
because, after all, I love you.

My hair flutters, and when I open up my mouth,
I tell a red-stained
fantasy.

It’s the star’s final act. This is my exit,
but still, I cannot sing the truth,
Footsteps ring across center stage
that just plays a song of beautiful illusions.

Even if the blade reaches my lungs,
I will never speak the truth.
Golden flower petals
overflow.

I am just a reticent reader
speaking after the witch,
reading aloud from the witch’s script
because, after all, you are my audience.

I avert my eyes, and when I open up my mouth,
I tell a blue-stained
mystery.

The witch was toyed with. This is my exit,
but still, I cannot expose the truth,
Footsteps ring across center stage
that is just charmed by cruel illusions.

Even if my breath is stolen away,
I will never speak the truth.
And just like that, my breath stops.

Your eyes watch me from the audience.
Please, do not let anything change.
I am just a powerless reader,
who speaks of nothing but fate.

The endroll signals the beginning
of the end of my turn,
Footsteps ring across center stage
that plunges into the dark depths of hell.

The time that seawater filled my lungs
was the one time I spoke the truth, calling out to you
as you just sank to the bottom of the sea."

>>18804411
he is particularly found in using the argument that these lines explicitly say that what she is saying is a lie:
>This is my exit, but still, I cannot sing the truth
>I am just a reticent reader speaking after the witch
>I will never speak the truth.

i'm pretty sure this is a cherrypicking analysis from his part yet again, so, I'll take a look when I get home.

>>18804464
I mean Claire doesn't really speak the truth as she sugar coated pretty much everything that happened.

>>18804548
Pretty much this

All this image song means is that she refuses to state reality, and isolate herself into cryptic illusion to cover the words she is meant to profer otherwise, as a representative recipient for the Witch's true self, aka Yasu.

Willard explicitly stated this before comencing to destroy all of her mysteries by explaining their realities in an equally cryptic way... unless of course, you are being spoonfed by the manga, where he outright gives all the answers in quite a definitive way.

Now then, does he have any other argument for us to destroy? Any other symbolism he is twisting?

>>18804597
/jp/ DESTROYS leftist umineko theorist with REASON and FACTS!
recommended for you

can someone save these counterarguments in a list or something, so that someone can tag him in the group later and see how he would react for having his whole theory destroyed before his own eyes... I dunno, like an image or whatever.

I'm starting to understand Erika now.

>>18805021
As long as he doesn't come here himself and gets disencouraged to argue about it any further -for being intimidated by our numbers- we shouldn't lose much fun from this desu

It's always particularly more humiliating to have it shove in your face in a place people give you even a bit of credibility, like in that shitty group.

Ah--- I can already feel the estasy! The moment when he will have all of his theory destroyed, while we savour his anguish and despair for being such an incompetent... And while he still tries to save his theory from crashing and burning to the ground, we will continually get new evidence that destroys any of his baseless claims...

Truly delightful!!
*cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle**cackle*

ERIKAAAAAAAAAA

Is the Lambdaposter a /lit/fag? He seems to know his shit

>>18806053
We're all /lit/fags here. Lambdanon allows Schoppy's irrational hatred of Hegel's philosophy to cloud his own judgement though.

>>18806111
Not a /lit/fag here, any books you could recommend anon-kun?

>>18806111
I wouldn't say all, but most anons who like Umineko most likely are avid readers by default.

I for one was introduced to the series by a friend's recommendation post in a literature group a 3 years ago. Truly is all he told us about, and I envy all of you who could theorize it with other readers in real time as the episodes were released.

He was thinking in making a thesis for his university about it too, I hope he give us a copy of that later.

>>18806260
-a*
Sorry for that typo btw

>>18806228
And adding, try giving a look in some of Murakami's books, for an interesting and very poetical and raw take on magical realism as a genre and tons of deep musical commentary.

I would sell some of my organs for a visual novel adaptation of Kafka in the Shore by 07th Expansion.

He definitely, in his own words, leaves many things up to the readers' interpretation though, so keep that in mind and don't expect rereads to answer all of your main questions like Umineko does.

>>18806228
Michael Ende is still one of my favourite authors to this day, even though I've known about him since way before I got acquainted to any 'literary' authors, and all the other children's books I've read really can't compete with what I've gotten to know since then. His narratives center around the strange nature of fantasy and imagination (I feel like they're the kind of thing especially Ryukishi fans might enjoy), the battle between personal meaning/ introspective, philosophical values and the kinds of values we are generally brought up with (trying very hard to be efficient and successful in the way others expect us to, pursuing these things with great greed, envy, vanity, etc.).
Depending on your taste you can start either with the Neverending Story (If you've watched the movie, don't worry. Except for the shared superficial aesthetics the book is nothing like it.), which uses metafiction to take a closer look at the relationship between fantasy and the everyday ordinary world we imagine ourselves to live in, or, if you want something more low-key and comfy, Momo might be a good start.
>>18806290
Murakami is also nice, though desu books like a wild sheep chase and wind up bird chronicles should not be read but listened to while you're cooking, drawing, playing the guitar or something along those lines. It's just pure aesthetic background noise.

>>18805094
im exited to know with what shit he will come out, because he's "ALWAYS" right.

>>18804597
Any other symbolism he is twisting?
Golden Sneer, idk why but he mentioned it.

>>18806361
>Michael Ende
I can definitely see some influences he may had had in case Ryukishi were to have read it before writing Umineko. Or at least, how similar the structure of the "Neverending Story" original book may have had in the novelization of it by Kodansha Box (we have different writing styles separating a certain part of the meta, in this case, a theatrical reading for the Purgatorio Tea Party portions).

i wonder if, in the chance Ende was alive to read Umineko, he would have appreciated just how many detailed narrative layers it has and how it seems to be a sucessor to his line of work, literature-wise -as to say, a very similarly executed metafiction in some regards-

>>18806729
Momo was surprisingly (or maybe unsurprisingly) successful in Japan. I think it really hits on the Weltschmerz of being torn out of the slow communal life of pre-industrial times which is particularly prominent in Japanese culture. The early parts of Higurashi's chapters often feel like a dream of what youth might be like in a less hectic, less efficiency-oriented society.
>you will never bond with your classmates in a curry cooking competition with your teachers as judges

>>18804597
I mean, his whole channel on youtube is full of his nonsensical talk:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0GpnufapS83HsRuq86ZYNA/videos

I can take a look later, but I'm not really that much of an enthusiast about this kind of theory.

I rather have something written to analyze, not... music edits?

>>18806858
>new video about the Bolero thing posted 17 hours ago

well well well, someone may be reading our thread right now, huh, Duncantrice?

I see he also deleted his old video about it.

>>18806888
he always do the same thing
The last time he said something like he is going to be like xaki and will not give us more hints, and deleted his vomit.
He's retarded.

>>18806888
he always does the same thing
The last time he said something like he is going to be like xaki and will not give us more hints, and deleted his vomit.
He's retarded.

>>18806910
to be honest, at least he is giving us something to talk about at this point. It's been quite a while ever since I've last felt this need of completely destroying someone else's reasoning. Even because after KnownoMore said his Rosatrice thing was just 8 hour game theory shitposting, it kinda made me hollow to even making a fuss because of it, we need someone who would give us a proper reaction of complete defeat, like a crying Battler of a sort.

>>18806888
He also posted this comment on the video

>>18806975
*sigh*
are we really doing this...

he seems to be beyond dellusional with his interpretation. I almost feel bad for methodically planning the most painfully excruciating way for him to be proven wrong.

Letting him live in his own dellusions seems a tad bit more compassionate.

>>18806999
Hm... I don't think you are "almost feeling bad" enough, but ok.

Let's start this by translating the official lyrics and posting in his video, and then wait for results (probably the deletion of the video or the comment itself).

I still can't believe he talked with poor xaki and got him compromised with his crazy fuckery.

The guy probably didn't understand a thing he was saying or asking.

>>18806975
>XD
Enough,he's beyond help, if someone argue with him he will reply with more bullshit (like his posts in rokkenjima), just ignore him.
He came like 5 years late to the fandom.

>>18800270
作詞者の意向により原詞の公開は控えさせていただきます。

Well, here we have a little problem, and a big solution.

It seems like the lyrics are not presented as the original, probably because of the 200% broken Italian/English/French some of the songs have.

And instead, what we get is a japanese translations for them with the true meaning the lyricist intended, as so requested by him.

Duncantrice there might as well say only the actual lyrics have the true meaning or something, should we really bother translating this?

>>18806729
>>18806789
Which one would you recommend first for someone who loved Umineko's meta narrative?
You guys makes me want to get into it

>>18807102
Literature similarity-wise, go for Neverending Story.

Introductory-wise, go for Momo.

xaki is just a weirdo and duncantrice is a fool. You're wasting your time for a fool who will never get it

>>18807116
I'm gonna try to go for Momo first then, it sounds pretty sweet. Thanks.

I don't think we've discussed the importance of the golden butterfly enough tbqh

>>18807180
Hey, Battler was incompetent too.

>>18806053
>>18807102

I'll reiterate this recommendation >>18802489 because Ficciones' format is truly ideal for the new reader and Borges is an excellent writer who shared pivotal ideas with Ryukishi. Borges' short stories are very clever, too. There's an alluring sharpness to his wit in the same way there's a curious urge to test a purportedly sharp knife/blade.

I don't post on /lit/ but I just like this stuff. Actually reading Invitation to a Beheading right now and I can find parallels here with Umineko, too, at a glance in the distorted image of Umineko's characters with the message bottles and the illusory change in Yasu's perception with the most recent disguise.

Anyway, definitely read Ficciones!

>>18806111
Oh, no, no way. I didn't predicate any of my foray into Umineko on a rejection of Hegel's ideas, and if I did, then that rejection should expressly and decisively reinforce the gestalt (rejected qualities are part of the whole after all; spinal absence is required for any exactitude on invertebrates in the taxonomy and biology).

It's really fun though. Umineko retroactively improves the more you read, and I think it's really telling on Umineko's strong and profound ideation. If Haworthia's any indication then WTC5 should satisfy again with formidable profundity and improved dexterity in the writing (versus Umineko).

I never posted here much either but I might start sticking around a bit cause it's pretty fun.

>>18807288
there are others out there even less competent that battler. don't try to scale them because it is too complex for you to ever understand. you'll only waste your time.

pictured is the least competent.

>>18807328
Shonknan can't have childresn!

>>18807318
>>18802378
Kastel-sama getting BTFO in just two posts

>>18807318
Lambdaposter is right, Borges is required reading for any WTC fan!

>>18807361
Borges is required reading for anyone that likes to read.

>>18807356
Who??

>>18807328
FAAAAAT!

Jorge
María
Rosa
Rodolfo
Erika
Beatriz
Dante
Ángel
León
Batalla
Jesica

>>18807388
>>18807318
Are you trying to link the WHOLE world to Umineko? WTF are you also saying

>>18807353
>>18807418

>>18807473
The majority of posters here are literally crazy.

>>18807523
Umineko did this to us, literally and metaphorically.

I wouldn't be half of the crazy bookworm I am today if it wasn't for this seacat crazy ride

>>18807473
>what is an analysis
Jeez

>>18807318
>>18807361
>>18807374
I'm definitely adding Ficciones to my cart too then, your enthusiasm convinced me.

This is so bad. After 6 years there are still dumb people who are so blind they can't accept the official solution, foolish GOATS

>>18807889
Good choice, anon!
You have my word that I'll be here for a while, so comment on it at your leisure in the future and I'll certainly respond! Certainly! It's always a delight to participate in mutually beneficial discussions.

>>18807933
alright then, but don't expect much more than a "I liked it" or a "I didn't like it" from me, I'm not good at writing that kind of stuff (but I'll try to make some efforts, by respect for your long recommendation)

>>18807523
I was doing a lot of acid when reading Higurashi and I'm definitely more insane because of it. It was a fun experience though.

>>18807450
Cuando las gaviotas lloran, novela visual por Caballero Dragón cero siete

hey, i just wanted to bring something up that is never discussed on here, and that is the anime renditions of the BGM. Most of them to me personally are just shit reneditions of the vn’s music. Anyways let’s begin the comparisons.

>dreamenddischarger (vn)
https://youtu.be/1C-f44fGQGE
>dreamenddischarger (anime)
https://youtu.be/rMolMb-hBVo
>fake red shoes (vn)
https://youtu.be/KZ9D05ll2Rw
>fake red shoes(anime)

>>18806361
The neverending story is my favorite book of all time. Momo is pretty great too.

I hate how awful the movie adaptation is. When I recommend the book to someone, they never feel like reading it because they "already know the story" or because they are "not interested in fantasy novels". No matter how many times I explain that the book is nothing like the movie, they always ignore it and watch the film instead because it was their childhood.

Such an amazing book and nobody ever reads it because of that stupid movie. Most people assume that it's just a good children's adventure novel and that's it. No wonder Ende was pissed off and made a video shitting on the movie.

The actress that played the Childlike Empress was super cute IRL, but they made her look kind of ugly in the movie. The book described her as the most beautiful little girl fatfatfat had ever seen. And she had shoulder-length snow white hair. And she fucking disappeared forever in the second half of the book, as you slowly realize that she's actually an amoral creature and Fuchur almost calls her a bitch. I didn't feel any of that from her character in the movie.

>>18806228
Battle Royale. What a great fucking book.

The strange case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (it's pretty short).

Peter Pan and Wendy (try to read Peter Pan in the Kensington Gardens first, as it's kind of a prequel but not really. More like a pilot episode.

They are all masterpieces butchered by their film adaptations. Peter Pan and Dr. Jekyll in particular have been completely bastardized in popular culture. You'd be surprised by how interesting and fascinating the original books are.

>>18808734
didn't like them

>>18807493
!!!!!!!!

>>18808734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbSKE3nomeQ

The anime's happiness of marionette rendition is really nice. I love the toy-soldier-esque spin on it. It's one of few tracks on the anime OST that I would vouch for. That being said, I'm biased towards happiness of marionette as it's my favorite track out of all the VN tracks.

>>18809019
did the story end?

why everyone in Umineko is gay?

http://ramblingsofthegoldenwitch.tumblr.com/post/172835914407/your-thoughts-on-duncantrice
Duncantrice is getting more attention, you it's shit but it's fun at the same time, Umineko is so dead that something like his bullshit is reviving it.

>>18809762
Nah, the only faggot in Umineko is Yasu.

>>18809874
Gorge knowingly poked at her cock more than once

>>18809903
What cock?

>>18809874
Lambda and Bern
Ronove was full homo
Battler maybe
Auau want's to fuck ange, same with mammon
Genji sucked Kinzo's dick

>>18809926
His mangled and rotten clitoris

One more Maria before the thread dies!

>>18809941

>>18809019
Ende didn't just shit on the movie, he actually tried to sue the studio for disfiguring his creative property. Of course it didn't go anywhere, but that should have been expected and he still did it. The guy was incredibly angry about the fact that that actually became successful just through the power of his cool fantasy visuals, while robbing them of their meaning.

>>18809981
Uuu uuu~!

Ange's ass

>>18809982
Where is the Bern rape doujin Japan?
What are you doing?